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Reprinted with permission from AlterNet.

It’s fitting that Donald Trump has been interviewed more times by Howard Stern than by any other television or radio personality. Stern’s program has always been a place where crude talk wasn’t just welcome but celebrated, and the real estate mogul and reality television star fit in perfectly. The show offered a forum where Trump, who always welcomes an opportunity to talk about money, women or his favorite subject—himself—could speak freely to an audience that enjoys that kind of thing.

In recent years, recordings of Stern’s show have surfaced in which Trump boasted of leering at his Miss Universe pageant contestants. He also agreed that his daughter is a “piece of ass,” and admitted to describing women’s genitalia as “expensive.” In other words, he was himself.

Newsweek has recently come into possession of 15 hours of Trump audio from the show, and it’s all in the same vein, whether he’s discussing giving Princess Diana an HIV test or admitting that Ivanka and Don Jr. attempted to cut Tiffany out of the will. Newsweek has called the cache of tapes a “rich, Freudian case study, a gold mine for anyone trying to understand the president of the United States.” For his part, Howard Stern has previously said that resurfaced Trump audio clips reflect “who Trump is. He was always bombastic. He always rated women. He always talked in a misogynistic, sexist kind of way…proudly and out in the open…”

Here are eight nauseating new revelations from the audio tapes.

1. He boasted about feeling Melania up in public.

On a segment that aired in 1999, Trump semi-boasted about groping his then-girlfriend in public, and choosing her the way one might select a tender cut of meat.

Stern: Have you ever felt her up in public?

Trump: Yeah…I’m very well behaved, actually, and almost always I’m very down the middle.

Stern: How did you meet this supermodel?

Trump: I met her at a very big party in New York. And she was there along with other supermodels, and I greeted all of them, and I said, that’s the one that’s the most beautiful.

2. He once claimed he’d leave a lot of money to charity.

Asked about his will and where his money would go when he died, Trump claimed that, along with caring for his kids, he’d make sure his estate went to plenty of worthy causes. “Charity gets a lot,” Trump said, without breaking into laughter. “Yeah, I’m going to give [my kids] Trump Online University…I’m going to give a lot to charity and I’m going to give a lot to the kids.”

Trump University turned out not just to be another failed business venture, but a judge effectively determined it a fraudulent enterprise. More absurd is the notion that Trump would engage in any kind of philanthropy. In the past, Trump has lied about giving to charities benefiting numerous causes, from veterans to terminally ill children. (In fact, he can’t seem to get enough of screwing over sick kids.) There’s no way he’s donating loads of money to charity upon his death. It’ll be a miracle if his will doesn’t dictate that everything he owns be buried with him.

3. Just days after her death, he went on a whole spiel about Anna Nicole Smith’s looks.

On the Feb. 12, 2007 episode of the show—just four days after Smith was found dead of an accidental overdose in a Florida hotel room—Trump chose to creepily weigh in, at length, about her face, body and hair.

“When she came to New York, I saw Anna Nicole Smith the first day or week that she was in New York. She was 6 feet tall. She had the best body. She had the best face. She had the best hair I’ve ever seen. You know, hair is my thing. I’m really into hair up right now, okay? And she has the most beautiful. I mean, she had the best hair, but she had the best face and the best body. You said [she had] the best face. She had the best body.”

4. The many times he offered his unsolicited opinions on women.

In several interviews, Trump and Stern talked about famous women and rated their physical appearances.

Angelina Jolie? “Her lips are too big” and rated her “a solid 7,” adding that “a 7 is not a 10.” Kim Kardashian? “She’s got a huge trunk…it’s seriously big.” He called Elin Nordegren, Tiger Woods’ ex-wife, “a solid 9,” noting she didn’t get a perfect score because “10 is very, very sacred territory.” Halle Berry? “I love her upper body.” Asked about Charlize Theron, he said “Ivanka is much better-looking than her.”

5. He gave a monologue about how hot his daughter is.

During a 2004 appearance on the show, Trump delivered a monologue about Ivanka that probably feels yuckier with hindsight, thanks to his long and gross record of saying skeezy things about his own daughter.

“She’s 6 feet tall,” Trump says on the recording. “She’s got the best body. She made a lot of money as a model. A tremendous amount and then she went cold turkey and gave it all up because she had to go to college because I wanted her to go to college. She goes to the best college sort and she goes to Wharton and she’s got straight As and she’s one of them. She’s considered one of the most beautiful women. And she really is—she is like a great beauty.”

6. He suggested being smart and pretty could be a problem for a woman.

Not long after his new reality show launched, Trump discussed how women contestants should maybe be hot or really brainy, but never both at the same time.

“Now the women did use their sex appeal, and they’re like incredibly beautiful,” Trump stated. “Of the women, there are some that are just unbelievable — like supermodel beauty, in addition to having a 200 IQ, and that maybe is negative. A beautiful woman that’s that smart. That could be a negative, Howard. I don’t know. You tell me.”

7. He referred to himself as The Best Tweeter.

The man currently trying to tweet us into a nuclear war once talked about how great he is at social media, because self-awareness is the opposite of Trumpiness.

Trump: You know I have this huge Twitter thing going…Would you tell your listeners? They’re all saying it’s the best.

Howard: Are you the best tweeter?

Trump: They say I’m the best tweeter…Because I’m controversial and I’m honest. I don’t even think I’m controversial. I’m very honest.

8. He boasted about being an aloof father who doesn’t spend quality time with his kids.

Here’s Trump in 2004 talking about what a stellar dad he is, except for the parenting part:

“I’ve been a good father—a really good father,” Trump stated. “But I’ve never been that involved. Like, if they ever said, ‘Come on outside, dad. Let’s have a catch in Central Park.’ I’d say, excuse me, what?

Kali Holloway is a senior writer and the associate editor of media and culture at AlterNet.

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23 responses to “8 Nauseating Revelations From Trump’s Newly Uncovered Interviews With Howard Stern”

  1. Dominick Vila says:

    Trump makes Anthony Wiener look like a celibate monk. Perhaps not surprisingly, the far right, including the evangelicals, love Trump’s life, his debauchery; his lack of respect for others, especially women, and his arrogance.

  2. Budjob says:

    Here pig,pig,pig,oink,oink,oink!!

  3. Dapper Dan says:

    Would this moron just resign and I say with all due respect PLEASE STFU ????

  4. Trump is the most disgusting and vile of human beings, and there have been over the centuries many such men. But none that I know of were so crass and abominable as to be glib about it publicly, nor did any other vile men have access to such an array of sophisticated media and technology at their fingertips. At least in Muslim societies where men are just as dismissive about women, there is the unspoken dread of appearing lecherous in public—not so in a majority Christian nation like America which feels it the right of men to boast of their ability to subjugate women openly.

    And the women who support Trump show an utter lack of respect for themselves as women, in total contradiction to the Spirit and Teachings of Jesus.

    What can account for this discrepancy between men in America versus men in Muslim countries? Certainly neither Islam nor Christianity condone such attitudes which Donald displays, or which Muslim men in conservative countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran display regularly. The main reason to me is our history of “Do as you please, and no one has the right to dispute your ‘freedom of expression’ “. This amoral philosophy, born out of the fetid bowels of a trend of thought which arose during the so-called “Age of Reason” would go on to embolden men in Europe, and later in the Americas, to behave in a bestial manner which Donald and Howard feel quite comfortable in.

    • dbtheonly says:


      To me, it’s the relish or pleasure Trump takes in violating the norms of social behavior. He’s crass for the sake of being crass. He’s juvenile for the sake of being juvenile. He’s letcherous becsuse he can be and there’s no cost to his behavior.

      In all the talk about invitations to the White House; no one has come right out and said that Trump is not someone to have one’s family associate with.

      • In my estimation there has never been as vile a duo as Stern/Trump. And hopefully, we shall never see such abnormalities in our lifetimes.

        • dbtheonly says:

          Indeed, once is more than sufficient.

          Though I would point out that the founders, like George Washington felt that liberty and self-control were linked. To them, licentiousness was a harbinger of tyranny.

    • Dominick Vila says:

      …Maybe Caligula or Nero…

      • These were deranged individuals for sure, but they didn’t have Twitter accounts(SMILE), or appear on TV with some toady designated by either Emperor to appear on Roman network TV or a call-in radio program back in the Antiquities, to expound on their lurid fantasies.

  5. Regarding this lack of respect for women, we must consider the context of society in former generations during our eras of immaturity as a human species. This immaturity is why the Religions of the past didn’t expatiate at length on the subject of how men should relate to women. This is a mystery—and certainly one wouldn’t expect the men of those times to on their own, independently, to conceive of the necessity to treat women with respect.
    Which is yet another reason for Religion to be renewed in parallel with our capacity to understand more as a species. And therefore is why Baha’u’llah has announced with clarity and at length, to expound on “The Equality of Women and Men”. He uses as a metaphor to help cement this relationship by use of a bird and its two wings, and would charge Abdu’l Baha, Shoghi Effendi, and later The Universal House of Justice to elaborate on this vital theme and one of the fundamental principles of The Baha’i Faith, in order to bring humankind up to speed.
    For example, consider this description given during a talk by Abdu’l Baha while visiting America, traveling from East to West at an advanced age and only recently released as a prisoner of conscience by advocating and promoting the Teachings of the Baha’i Faith.

    “…During His Western tours, ‘Abdu’l-Bahá had frequent occasion to explain the Bahá’í teachings on this subject. At a meeting of the Women’s Freedom League in London in January 1913, He said:—
    Humanity is like a bird with its two wings—the one is male, the other female. Unless both wings are strong and impelled by some common force, the bird cannot fly heavenwards. According to the spirit of this age, women must advance and fulfill their mission in all departments of life, becoming equal to men. They must be on the same level as men and enjoy equal rights. This is my earnest prayer and it is one of the fundamental principles of Bahá’u’lláh.

    Some scientists have declared that the brains of men weigh more than those of women, and claim this as a proof of man’s superiority. Yet when we look around us we see people with small heads, whose brains much weigh little, who show the greatest intelligence and great powers of understanding; and others with big heads, whose brains must be heavy, and yet they are witless. Therefore the avoirdupois of the brain is no true measure of intelligence or superiority.

    When men bring forward as a second proof of their superiority the assertion that women have not achieved as much as men, they use poor arguments which leave history out of consideration. If they kept themselves more fully informed historically, they would know that great women have lived and achieved great things in the past, and that there are many living and achieving great things today.
    Here ‘Abdu’l-Bahá described the achievements of Zenobia and other great women of the past, concluding with an eloquent tribute to the fearless Mary Magdalene, whose faith remained firm while that of the apostles was shaken. He continued:—
    Amongst the women of our own time is Qurratu’l-’Ayn, the daughter of a Muḥammadan priest. At the time of the appearance of the Báb she showed such tremendous courage and power that all who heard her were astonished. She threw aside her veil despite the immemorial custom of the women of Persia, and although it was considered impolite to speak with men, this heroic woman carried on controversies with the most learned men, and in every meeting she vanquished them. The Persian Government took her prisoner; she was stoned in the streets, anathematized, exiled from town to town, threatened with death, but she never failed in her determination to work for the freedom of her sisters. She bore persecution and suffering with the greatest heroism; even in prison she gained converts. To a Minister in Persia, in whose house she was imprisoned, she said: “You can kill me as soon as you like but you cannot stop the emancipation of women.” At last the end of her tragic life came; she was carried into a garden and strangled. She put on, however, her choicest robes as if she were going to join a bridal party. With such magnanimity and courage she gave her life, startling and thrilling all who saw her. She was truly a great heroine. Today in Persia, among the Bahá’ís, there are women who also show unflinching courage, and who are endowed with great poetic insight. They are most eloquent, and speak before large gatherings of people.

    Women must go on advancing; they must extend their knowledge of science, literature, history, for the perfection of humanity. Erelong they will receive their rights. Men will see women in earnest, bearing themselves with dignity, improving the civil and political life, opposed to warfare, demanding suffrage and equal opportunities. I expect to see you advance in all phases of life; then will your brows be crowned with the diadem of eternal glory.”

    Now, contrast the above eloquence, forcefulness, and empathy concerning the plight and affairs of women across the planet then and now, in comparison to the thoughts and conversations of Trump, and other men, here in America and elsewhere.

    • dbtheonly says:

      Deflect much?

    • johninPCFL says:

      Well, does that mean it’s good when we get a dolt that has ALL OF THE ABOVE?

      Now that we’ve seen (again) the laundry list of his creepy, misogynistic, incompetent characteristics one-at-a-time in others, remind me again what’s GOOD about the Obese Orange Morangutan?

    • Rich, your simple-minded and tiresome comparison of Trump with other Presidents shows your utter lack of intelligence. That anyone would have allowed you to advance beyond the 8th grade is beyond comprehension.

      We’re dealing with “Night”(Trump) versus “Day”(most other men). Try to wrap your terribly constrained mind around this disparity.

      • dbtheonly says:

        I dunno Aaron, Warren Harding allegedly nailed his mistress in a White House closet, while his wife was in the building.

        Presidents are human. But only Trump tries to make a virtue of his vices.

      • RichFromShowMe says:

        “No one, including most all, if not all, of our Presidents, have been perfect”

        Most responses to documented facts are rarely, if ever, directly addressed, other than with simple-minded-ridiculous-ad-hominem-attacks, but, that seems to be the Left’s modus operandi. 🙂

  6. notafoxfan says:

    we all understand that to be human, is to be imperfect in one way or another..the issue is whether you brag consistently to the general public as mr trump did through more than a few years of interviews with howard strern and others, about behavior that most people would not publicize..even hugh hefner of playboy fame,did not make rude,gross or sexual comments about the many women he encountered,nor did he make comments about his daughter as did mr trump..bill Clinton did not publicly brag or promote his sexual indiscretions,obamba did not brag nor promote his college days occasional use of marijuana,and jimmy carter I cannot believe was even mentioned in a comment…the point with mr trump is his “I’m a celebrity” attitude which seemingly makes his past statements and braggardly attitude the way, ronald Reagan was a Hollywood movie star before he was a governor and then president, and he at least had dignity….

    • You’re an infantile little man, still infatuated with misspelling President Obama’s last name—a show of disrespect for other cultures and a sinister racism—and you refuse to acknowledge Trump’s depravity. Which only means you approve of such, and derive vicarious pleasure from Donald’s exploits and gutter language.

  7. dpaano says:

    Let’s just all agree that Trump is a jackass and has ALWAYS been a jackass!

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