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		<title>By: personnot</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-84770</link>
		<dc:creator>personnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Nazi&#039;s hired women. How does wantiong to be free to hire the best worker make you a Nazi? It doesn&#039;t. It is just more Liberal (AKA Communist) lies and deceit. The same tactic that has been used since Russia murdered 20 million freedom loving countrymen and Mao murdered 60 million, etc...Way to go useful idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nazi&#8217;s hired women. How does wantiong to be free to hire the best worker make you a Nazi? It doesn&#8217;t. It is just more Liberal (AKA Communist) lies and deceit. The same tactic that has been used since Russia murdered 20 million freedom loving countrymen and Mao murdered 60 million, etc&#8230;Way to go useful idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: personnot</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-84757</link>
		<dc:creator>personnot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so being &quot;free&quot; means that we must allow the gob&#039;ment to force us to pay someone that is lazy or stupid, that same as someone is not? You are a useful idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so being &#8220;free&#8221; means that we must allow the gob&#8217;ment to force us to pay someone that is lazy or stupid, that same as someone is not? You are a useful idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: El_Gateaux</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-73607</link>
		<dc:creator>El_Gateaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think my main point was that by  engaging in the behavior you suggested, that of not hiring women because they were too much trouble, he would open himself to legal liability.  If he did stop hiring women because of some misguided belief that they were &quot;too much trouble, I think it would be fairly obvious that morality wasn&#039;t a motivating factor with him. While there are certainly market forces at play, the public opinon sometimes takes a while to catch up with what is right. As a result they do not always protect the rights of those who are being victimized.  I think desegregation is an excellent case in point. Without government involvement there might still be such undesirable situations as racial discrimination determining where one could work,  live, goto school (and how far in school, why pay for college for someone who isn&#039;t going to be allowed to be other than common laborer) or how much one would be paid or who one could marry .  In areas other than race we might still  have child labor,   I am quite sure there are many more examples but I think these make it pretty clear.  The sad fact is many businesses, particularly big businesses&#039; prime interest is the bottom line and if left to their own devices there would be little in the way of safety equipment, wages would be the absolute minimum that could be gotten away with, and there would be no such thing as retirement except for those owners.   Since with regulations in place we still have businesses selling contaminated food and oil companies not following safety regulations which led to a major disaster in the Gulf imagine what we would have if there were no regulations or laws?  While public opinion might eventually force the businesses to do what is right it is also a fact that businesses attempt (and often succeed) to shape public opinion all the time, they call them advertisements. To sum up, history teaches us that what you suggest would happen, doesn&#039;t or, it if does it takes much, much longer than it should.  We have laws for a reason.  True, some laws have outlived their usefulness but that isn&#039;t any reason to eliminate all laws. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my main point was that by  engaging in the behavior you suggested, that of not hiring women because they were too much trouble, he would open himself to legal liability.  If he did stop hiring women because of some misguided belief that they were &#8220;too much trouble, I think it would be fairly obvious that morality wasn&#8217;t a motivating factor with him. While there are certainly market forces at play, the public opinon sometimes takes a while to catch up with what is right. As a result they do not always protect the rights of those who are being victimized.  I think desegregation is an excellent case in point. Without government involvement there might still be such undesirable situations as racial discrimination determining where one could work,  live, goto school (and how far in school, why pay for college for someone who isn&#8217;t going to be allowed to be other than common laborer) or how much one would be paid or who one could marry .  In areas other than race we might still  have child labor,   I am quite sure there are many more examples but I think these make it pretty clear.  The sad fact is many businesses, particularly big businesses&#8217; prime interest is the bottom line and if left to their own devices there would be little in the way of safety equipment, wages would be the absolute minimum that could be gotten away with, and there would be no such thing as retirement except for those owners.   Since with regulations in place we still have businesses selling contaminated food and oil companies not following safety regulations which led to a major disaster in the Gulf imagine what we would have if there were no regulations or laws?  While public opinion might eventually force the businesses to do what is right it is also a fact that businesses attempt (and often succeed) to shape public opinion all the time, they call them advertisements. To sum up, history teaches us that what you suggest would happen, doesn&#8217;t or, it if does it takes much, much longer than it should.  We have laws for a reason.  True, some laws have outlived their usefulness but that isn&#8217;t any reason to eliminate all laws. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Key</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-72212</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The GOP on its headlong dive to the economic, moral, and cultural sewer.  I&#039;ve worked in 48 States of this great nation and there is no doubt we will recover from the GOP catastrophe as soon as the &quot;representatives of the people&quot; step into Congress once again.  

The GOP is not the solution; it is the problem. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP on its headlong dive to the economic, moral, and cultural sewer.  I&#8217;ve worked in 48 States of this great nation and there is no doubt we will recover from the GOP catastrophe as soon as the &#8220;representatives of the people&#8221; step into Congress once again.  </p>
<p>The GOP is not the solution; it is the problem. </p>
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		<title>By: bck2yu</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-71531</link>
		<dc:creator>bck2yu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s give Todd Akin credit for being honest.
He doesn&#039;t believe women should be paid the same as men when doing the same job...and he says so!
Akin believes that women who are raped have a built-in biological defense against becoming pregnant...if the rape is legitimate...and he says so!
Akin believes his opponent, Claire McCaskill, has not run a &quot;ladylike&quot; campaign...and he says so!
It is incredible that the Republican Party would have a man like Todd Akin running for any political office...but that&#039;s what&#039;s happening in Missouri!
Todd Akin...A GOOD REASON TO VOTE DEMOCRAT ON NOVEMBER 6th!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s give Todd Akin credit for being honest.<br />
He doesn&#8217;t believe women should be paid the same as men when doing the same job&#8230;and he says so!<br />
Akin believes that women who are raped have a built-in biological defense against becoming pregnant&#8230;if the rape is legitimate&#8230;and he says so!<br />
Akin believes his opponent, Claire McCaskill, has not run a &#8220;ladylike&#8221; campaign&#8230;and he says so!<br />
It is incredible that the Republican Party would have a man like Todd Akin running for any political office&#8230;but that&#8217;s what&#8217;s happening in Missouri!<br />
Todd Akin&#8230;A GOOD REASON TO VOTE DEMOCRAT ON NOVEMBER 6th!</p>
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		<title>By: WhutHeSaid</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-71522</link>
		<dc:creator>WhutHeSaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if you&#039;re a racist, sexist, homophobic, religious nut. Save me some time and let me know which one(s) apply.

What I do know is that oppose equal rights for women and you feel the need to convince the world that you are dangerous. Are the two related? Did your sisters beat you up when you were just a little misogynist?

I&#039;ll tell ya what: Since you apparently feel that only YOUR arguments are exciting (you know -- life&#039;s unfair, deal with it, get a gun and start shooting whatever annoys you, etc., blabitty-blab) feel free to suggest one of your most thrilling topics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re a racist, sexist, homophobic, religious nut. Save me some time and let me know which one(s) apply.</p>
<p>What I do know is that oppose equal rights for women and you feel the need to convince the world that you are dangerous. Are the two related? Did your sisters beat you up when you were just a little misogynist?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell ya what: Since you apparently feel that only YOUR arguments are exciting (you know &#8212; life&#8217;s unfair, deal with it, get a gun and start shooting whatever annoys you, etc., blabitty-blab) feel free to suggest one of your most thrilling topics.</p>
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		<title>By: normdplume</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-71517</link>
		<dc:creator>normdplume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blah, blah, blah.  I suppose I must be a racist, sexist homophobic religious nut.

Honestly, your rhetoric is SO tired.  Passe&#039;.  Boring.

Can&#039;t you find something INTERESTING to discuss?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blah, blah, blah.  I suppose I must be a racist, sexist homophobic religious nut.</p>
<p>Honestly, your rhetoric is SO tired.  Passe&#8217;.  Boring.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you find something INTERESTING to discuss?</p>
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		<title>By: stsintl</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-71493</link>
		<dc:creator>stsintl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Murdochite Republican doesn&#039;t understand that:

In democracies, governments serve the needs of all constituencies within their jurisdiction for legal and physical infrastructure, their general welfare, and for protection of the weakest against the excesses by the strongest and/or criminal elements in the society.  They must administer and govern with consensus and bear social responsibility.  By design, they are not as efficient as dictatorships or fiefdoms, but they are an essential pillar of democracy.   On the other hand, business enterprises operate with the mission to maximize wealth for the capitalists and their managers.  Top executives are not required to operate with consensus or bear any social responsibility, even for their own lower level employees.  While capitalists look for individuals with feudal lord and/or dictatorship qualities to run their enterprises, governments must look for individuals with compassion and commitment to social responsibility.

This Murdochite doesn&#039;t know the difference between Freedom (with social responsibility) and Anarchy (without it).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Murdochite Republican doesn&#8217;t understand that:</p>
<p>In democracies, governments serve the needs of all constituencies within their jurisdiction for legal and physical infrastructure, their general welfare, and for protection of the weakest against the excesses by the strongest and/or criminal elements in the society.  They must administer and govern with consensus and bear social responsibility.  By design, they are not as efficient as dictatorships or fiefdoms, but they are an essential pillar of democracy.   On the other hand, business enterprises operate with the mission to maximize wealth for the capitalists and their managers.  Top executives are not required to operate with consensus or bear any social responsibility, even for their own lower level employees.  While capitalists look for individuals with feudal lord and/or dictatorship qualities to run their enterprises, governments must look for individuals with compassion and commitment to social responsibility.</p>
<p>This Murdochite doesn&#8217;t know the difference between Freedom (with social responsibility) and Anarchy (without it).</p>
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		<title>By: WhutHeSaid</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-71459</link>
		<dc:creator>WhutHeSaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stay your hand? Certainly not -- that would threaten your &#039;manly&#039; self-image. Other considerations would apply here as well, however, I realize that your need to project your machismo is overbearing. This, of course, helps explain the basis of your misogyny.

Laws do not exist only to &#039;punish&#039; wrongdoing, they also exist to prevent it. There are also a great many laws that exist simply to achieve a desired outcome, such as zoning laws. Still others have a different purpose: one example would be tax laws.

Yes, people will do what they deem appropriate, and sane people will generally take into consideration the legality of possible actions when determining what is appropriate. Your mileage, of course, may vary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stay your hand? Certainly not &#8212; that would threaten your &#8216;manly&#8217; self-image. Other considerations would apply here as well, however, I realize that your need to project your machismo is overbearing. This, of course, helps explain the basis of your misogyny.</p>
<p>Laws do not exist only to &#8216;punish&#8217; wrongdoing, they also exist to prevent it. There are also a great many laws that exist simply to achieve a desired outcome, such as zoning laws. Still others have a different purpose: one example would be tax laws.</p>
<p>Yes, people will do what they deem appropriate, and sane people will generally take into consideration the legality of possible actions when determining what is appropriate. Your mileage, of course, may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: WhutHeSaid</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/akin-justifies-discriminatory-pay-policy/#comment-71456</link>
		<dc:creator>WhutHeSaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, you were being inexorably drawn into a debate that you could clearly see was not winnable. After all, personal bias is not equivalent to philosophy. A simple error on your part, really.

I accept your concession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you were being inexorably drawn into a debate that you could clearly see was not winnable. After all, personal bias is not equivalent to philosophy. A simple error on your part, really.</p>
<p>I accept your concession.</p>
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