By Jim Hightower

America’s Constitutional Rights Are In God’s Hands In Paragould, Arkansas

January 2, 2013 12:00 am Category: Memo Pad 56 Comments A+ / A-

The courthouse in Paragould, Arkansas (photo by jimmywane/Flickr)

No doubt you had a lot on your mind in December — the dancing of sugarplum fairies, America stumbling toward the fiscal cliff, the outcome of the classic Beef O’Brady’s Bowl game and whatnot — so you might have missed this bit of big news that got very little news coverage: Our Constitution had a hole burned in it.

The culprits were the police chief and mayor of Paragould, AR — and, although their torching of our basic Constitutional right to be free of abusive police actions is despicable, both men apparently had good intentions and were acting out of an abundance of ignorance. It seems that this burg of 25,000 citizens in northeast Arkansas has a serious crime problem. So, by gollies, Chief Todd Stovall and Mayor Mike Gaskill were determined to take bold action to secure the streets. At a Dec. 13 townhall meeting, Stovall declared a new order in Paragould, stating that he was deploying a quasi-military force that would “be in SWAT gear and have AR-15s around their necks.”

Some might think: “OK, chief, go get those bad guys!” But, wait! He wasn’t limiting his SWAT squad to detaining known criminals or even crime suspects. “If you’re out walking,” the top cop announced autocratically, “we’re going to stop you, ask why you’re out walking, check for your ID. We’re going to do it to everybody.”

The mayor then chimed in with an exuberant endorsement of the plan. He noted that a hapless resident “may not be doing anything but walking their dog. But they’re going to have to prove it.” And what’s the legal basis for accosting innocent citizens? Crime statistics and public fear, the chief blithely replied, “allow us to do what we’re fixing to do.”

Admitting that they had not consulted an attorney before imposing martial law on Paragouldians, the dynamic duo proceeded to take a flamethrower to the Fourth Amendment by insisting that the town’s SWAT-teamers need not even be looking for a specific suspect in their street sweeps. And don’t even think of resisting. Individuals who do not produce their ID on demand, Stovall barked, will be subject to arrest for interfering with a governmental operation.

“Will there be people who buck us? There may be. But,” he said, tumbling deeper down the rabbit hole of ignorance and arrogance, “we have a right to be doing what we’re doing. … We are prepared to throw your hind-end in jail, OK? We’re not going to take a lot of flack.”

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  • Gregory Williams

    A Conservative thug lord is stretching his wings and this is not a clipping of those wings … he and his supporters will be seeking to pass local enactments that he can use to violate the Constitution and enacted law… nor has he backed off using this power to target certain populations … he did not care about what laws he would be violating and it seems clear that this is lip service dodging and nothing more than that.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOPKDFAUQPIIRAFI3HEXNMSHLQ Ed

      He was just doing what every Republican wishes they could do.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UACYCMKUZJ3TPDOMHLWYO4BF7I Roger

        That’s why the call themselves “Law and Order” Republicans- or better yet, Fascists. Remember “Tricky Dick” Nixon?

  • nobsartist

    I predict that both of these assholes will be killed over the next year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/johnny.thomas.52035 Johnny Thomas

    Sounds like they want trouble from the citizens that live there .If they man handle my mother or wife we would have some problems and does he even have the authority to do that just because he wants to .I don’t think so .If the governor doesn’t step in then those citizens should take i t on .That is why we have the right to bear arms when a government go of like that to protect our self.

    • Sand_Cat

      Gunbattle on the streets!

      Great idea. That’s sure to get everybody’s rights protected. Just look what happened with non-violent Occupy Wall Street (what’s a little pepper spray in the eyes, after all) or – best of all – after 9/11.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/43TMBJ4SDE6CLF54RRAANIBWH4 Ralph

      Fear, fear, fear Johnny, I for one won’t live in your paranoid little world.

  • FredAppell

    Sounds to me like they are actually targeting Latinos under the guise of checking everyone’s ID. They know that they would draw a lot of criticism for singling out specific groups of people so they created this smoke screen instead. I suspect that within a couple of months these two Neanderthal’s will be forced to scrap their plans once the ACLU or someone else finds out.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOPKDFAUQPIIRAFI3HEXNMSHLQ Ed

      Latinos in Arkansas? I’ll bet the police force outnumbers them.

      • FredAppell

        I can’t even imagine what kind of crime they’re referring to! I live in a town with roughly the the same size population as the one mentioned above and our crime mostly consists of local teens committing petty crimes due to boredom. Hell, I used to be one of them. Their level of paranoia is very dangerous especially if it creates a model for other municipalities to follow.

        • Michael Kollmorgen

          This type of Mindset is nothing new in Small Town USA.

          There are a lot of small towns that are very similar. The average person just passing through wouldn’t notice a thing until they get stopped for the most pettyest of problems.

          In a lot of these towns even a burned-out License Plate Light will get the police acting towards you as if you were an escaped convict.

          Then you’re going to wish you never went through there.

          Usually the Cops in these types of towns are failed State Patrol candidates, screw-ups from larger police forces, or were cop wannabees from childhood.

          • FredAppell

            Michael, I completely agree with you but the issue in the story above has been taken to a whole new level. Many small town people tend to have a bias regarding outsiders (strangers) which generally manifests as a deep mistrust. Sadly, I have come to expect that because it is part of our primal instincts to act that way.

            I have experienced this first hand when I moved to Vermont. I really had to prove myself just to be mildly excepted. Needless to say, when my relationship with my fiance ended, I decided to high tail it out of there. However, the town mentioned in the above article is harassing their own citizens which is unprecedented and smacks of something else masquerading as law enforcement. Hopefully this will serve as a wake up call for Americans.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HJIWONQOW4EAYMCA4QH2DDJMBU MARK

    Convoluted logic on parade,aint it wonderful? Willfull ignorance is a disease that’s as serious as mental illness and most likely way more dangerous.

  • Pi_Boson

    This is not an isolated example. Look at nearly everything Karl Rove and Dick Cheney have touched, you will notice their novel interpretation and understanding of the Constitution is very similar.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Colleen-Klemp/100002683878543 Colleen Klemp

    I hope those good citizens vote those two out of office!

    • Sand_Cat

      They voted them in. There’s no reason to suppose they’ll now vote them out.

    • jointerjohn

      It appears that some here ignored the fact that the citizens dealt with this injustice without the use of guns, imagine that? New Rule. No one can serve as an elected official or police officer who cannot walk more than twelve steps forward without his knuckles touching the floor.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/43TMBJ4SDE6CLF54RRAANIBWH4 Ralph

      And then run them out of town on a rail

    • kendraorick

      Nope WE plan to keep them around a LONG time. If you had been at the meeting you would know our new editor grossly misquoted and created a firestorm of lies and confusion!

  • http://mohammeddressup.com/ I Zheet M’Drawz

    Ve mussen ihre papiers sehen!

    Und weche partie do sie belong zu? Der Nazi I mean Republicans oder der Demoncraps?

    Ve haf our vays zu machen du follow our orders! If you resuse ve vill put du in der Koncentration Kamp! I mean re-education kamp.

    Und ven sie kann say der alphabet backwards in German ve vill let ihre sorry arse go.

    Sieg Heil!

    • FredAppell

      I agree! The Conservative Gestapo are alive and well.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Freddy… funny but the Nazi’s are socialists, not Constitutional conservatives in the American lexicon. I’ll copy my post to the moron IZ for you here…

        IZ… For you and all the other leftist freaks out there who are incapable of simple thought, let’s review the basic meaning of the term ‘Nazi’…. NAZI is an acronym for National SOCIALIST Party. Knowing that, which of our 2 parties is most likely to be a home to people who identify more closely with the ideas of socialism? Come on…. be honest… which one? That’s riiiiiiiiight… The DemonRATS are the party for socialists in America. In fact, it can be argued quite well that the old party called DemonRAT should be called the Socialist Party in modern times. So, before all you leftist freaks start trying hurl the ‘Nazi” label around, remember what it REALLY means!

        Nazi = Socialist = DemonRAT

        You’re only casting dispersions on yourself, you stupid moron.

        Have a nice day!

        “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain

        • FredAppell

          I know what the acronym for NAZI is but the fact is that they were an extreme right-wing nationalist movement. Hitler couldn’t stand Stalin because Communism is extreme left-wing ideology. Though both of them were Dictators, they opposed each others politics. But I was not wrong, the NAZI’s were in fact a right-wing organization which supports my prior statement ” Conservative Gestapo”. FYI, they weren’t real Socialists either. While I have your attention I thought I would let you know that I too oppose NDAA. I admit that initially I was unaware of it but you should also know that there is a class action law suit challenging Obama regarding this law which was brought on by notable leftists and Socialist on behalf of the United States. Look up Hedges vs. Obama for more details if your interested. In the future, if you have an issue with me than try using some civility. Otherwise I am not going to respond to you any further. I will be happy to have a reasonable discussion with you without the name calling but if you’re going to be an ass than i’m not going to play your game.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Freddy… Once again, I have posted a response to this same issue to Metrognome above. The fact that Hitler did not like communism is NO proof that he was not a socialist. He absolutely was a socialist. Here is a repost of my response to Metrognome:

            Actually Metro, you are dead wrong on this one. NAZI is a German acronym for National Socialist Party. Socialist means what it means, my friend. Words mean what they mean, and deeds are what they are. Hitler and the Nazis instituted socialist policies. Here is a listing of policies that are clearly components of socialist systems:

            1) Socialized medicine,
            2) nationalized education,
            3) compulsory indoctrination of youth in socialist ideals,
            4) elimination of religion from schools replaced with “worship” of the state,
            5) loose morals and the glorification of unwed mothers,
            6) nationalization of food,
            7) state run day care forced upon mothers who were forced to go to work rather than raise their children,
            8) government subsidized housing,
            9) subsidized college tuition,
            10) everyone entitled to food stamps, clothing and housing;
            11) extreme oversight and regulation of small business and government ownership of large business;
            12) government planning agencies for farmers that told them what to grow and when to grow it;
            13) outlaw of gun ownership by private citizens following after forced registration of gun ownership (sound familiar?);
            14) elimination of freedom of speech against the government;

            You can certainly attribute some of those policies to those of a dictatorship, but what the hell do you think are characteristics of socialist dictators? Duhhhh!!!! These are the kind of policies that mark truly socialist governments throughout history. You should be recognizing similarities in those policies above with those espoused by your party leaders.

            Of course Nazi means National SOCIALIST Party. And of course the home of socialists in American politics IS the DemonRAT party. For you to deny this fact, Metro, is laughable. Either you are joking, or you simply are ignorant to the reality of the changes in your party over the decades. You’re still living with the false belief that the old Democratic party is the party of “the working man” when nothing could be further from the truth. The DemonRAT party has been taken over by the 60′s radicals who are socialists. They are the party of entitlement. The party of the NON-working man. Listen to the rhetoric of Obozo. The “rich not paying their fair share” crap is nothing more than the modern equivalent of Marx’s proletariat vs. bourgeois, class warfare crap.

            You cannot deny these facts, Metro. Nazi = Socialist = DemonRAT party. I’m not the one who brings this up. IZ did, as have many others in here over the year, and to which I smack them down with THE FACTS. Too many of you guys on the left believe your own cliches, despite how blatantly false they are. I am here to wake you up.

            Happy New Year!

            “There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.” — Charles de Montesquieu

    • ObozoMustGo

      IZ… For you and all the other leftist freaks out there who are incapable of simple thought, let’s review the basic meaning of the term ‘Nazi’…. NAZI is an acronym for National SOCIALIST Party. Knowing that, which of our 2 parties is most likely to be a home to people who identify more closely with the ideas of socialism? Come on…. be honest… which one? That’s riiiiiiiiight… The DemonRATS are the party for socialists in America. In fact, it can be argued quite well that the old party called DemonRAT should be called the Socialist Party in modern times. So, before all you leftist freaks start trying hurl the ‘Nazi” label around, remember what it REALLY means!

      Nazi = Socialist = DemonRAT

      You’re only casting dispersions on yourself, you stupid moron.

      Have a nice day!

      “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt.” – Mark Twain

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZJ5BBSQIGTUMERPZFALES6HQNY Bill

        As usual Bozo the Idiot has it wrong. Nazi may be anacronym for National Socialist but the Nazis were hardly socialists. They were fascists who implemented racial and religious bigotry. They believed in the Aryan race, tried to eliminate the Jewish population in Europe along with other minorities in Europe. So just wriring words coinnected by = signs doesn’t make it true. Again you showe your ignorance of history and current times.

        Your Mark Twain qutoe was good, you ought to practice it more since you say some of the stupidest things. Still claim Obama is the worst prseident in the last 100 years? Think Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Nixon, Ford and of course boy wonder “W”

      • metrognome3830

        No, OMG, Nazi means Nazi! Regardless of what they called themselves. The people they defeated were the Democratic Socialist Party. Your outrage at IZ for throwing around the NAZI label is not valid. He is no more off course than you are for throwing the Socialist label around at any form of government that isn’t Libertarian or that you disagree with however slightly. The Democratic party is not the Socialist party and neither was the Nazi party. Take that Mark Twain quote to heart, OMG. I do believe you know better in spite of what you replied to IZ. I will view it as one of your “grenades.”

        Have a mellow evening. Have a drink and a nice dinner and a great evening all around.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Actually Metro, you are dead wrong on this one. NAZI is a German acronym for National Socialist Party. Socialist means what it means, my friend. Words mean what they mean, and deeds are what they are. Hitler and the Nazis instituted socialist policies. Here is a listing of policies that are clearly components of socialist systems:

          1) Socialized medicine,
          2) nationalized education,
          3) compulsory indoctrination of youth,
          4) elimination of religion from schools replaced with “worship” of the state,
          5) loose morals and the glorification of unwed mothers,
          6) nationalization of food,
          7) state run day care forced upon mothers who were forced to go to work rather than raise their children,
          8) government subsidized housing,
          9) subsidized college tuition,
          10) everyone entitled to food stamps, clothing and housing;
          11) extreme oversight and regulation of small business and government ownership of large business;
          12) government planning agencies for farmers that told them what to grow and when to grow it;
          13) outlaw of gun ownership by private citizens following after forced registration of gun ownership (sound familiar?);
          14) elimination of freedom of speech against the government;

          You can certainly attribute some of those policies to those of a dictatorship, but what the hell do you think are characteristics of socialist dictators? Duhhhh!!!! These are the kind of policies that mark truly socialist governments throughout history. You should be recognizing similarities in those policies above with those espoused by your party leaders.

          Of course Nazi means National SOCIALIST Party. And of course the home of socialists in American politics IS the DemonRAT party. For you to deny this fact, Metro, is laughable. Either you are joking, or you simply are ignorant to the reality of the changes in your party over the decades. You’re still living with the false belief that the old Democratic party is the party of “the working man” when nothing could be further from the truth. The DemonRAT party has been taken over by the 60′s radicals who are socialists. They are the party of entitlement. The party of the NON-working man. Listen to the rhetoric of Obozo. The “rich not paying their fair share” crap is nothing more than the modern equivalent of Marx’s proletariat vs. bourgeois, class warfare crap.

          You cannot deny these facts, Metro. Nazi = Socialist = DemonRAT party. I’m not the one who brings this up. IZ did, as have many others in here over the year, and to which I smack them down with THE FACTS. Too many of you guys on the left believe your own cliches, despite how blatantly false they are. I am here to wake you up.

          Happy New Year, Metro!

          “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love
          freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn reflecting on how easy it was for Stalin to overrun and murder the opposition that was not armed.

          • metrognome3830

            No, OMG, Nazis were Socialist only in their own minds. I think you need to research it a bit more. You quote Aleksandr Solzhenitsym writing about Stalin. How does that reinforce your argument about Nazis. The Nazis and the Communists did not like one another even though they were both extremely repressive. Socialism was generally described as the step between Fascism (Hitler and Mussolini) and Communism (Stalin). Nazi “Socialism” meant what the Nazis wanted it to mean. Your list, above, would perhaps, describe the public face the Nazis wanted to put out there, but it does not describe what they did. Hitler’s main objective was to create his “Super Race.” To do that he set about to obliterate the Jews, Catholics, anyone considered mentally inferior. (I would never have qualified, being black-haired, brown-eyes and considered by some to be mentally inferior.) I don’t really know where you got your list, but I get a strong feeling that you have added in certain elements. Everyone entitled to government education? Medical care? Food? They may have been on Hitler’s published list but they were definitely the furthest thing from his mind. I am somewhat disturbed, OMG, that you could compare our Democratic party to Nazism. But it does help me understand why you think the general population should be armed with military weapons and ammunition — what next? A cannon in every garage? C’mon, Man! If that’s your view of the future, I’m glad I’m nearing the end of my time here. Try to hold them off for another twenty years OMG. I should be nothing but ashes blowing in the nuclear wind by then. BTW, whatever happened to the old beatitude (or whatever) that the Meek shall inherit the earth? Is that another line of BS Father Scharphof sold us?

            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Metro, I put the AS quote there because I like it even though it’s only peripherally relevant. My list comes from accounts of those from Germany and Austria that lived through not what Hitler said, but WHAT HE DID. He did create socialized medicine that was “free” to all and where doctors were employed by the government. He did every last one of the things I wrote about in my list Metro. Go look them up. It’s true. And that list IS predominantly socialist. The factual difference between socialist and fascist is merely in appearance. Where in complete socialism, there is no private property and the state owns and controls all factors of production, in fascism there may be private property in appearance, but in reality the state controls everything through the threat of force or oppressive regulation. The net effect, Metro, is identical. This is why I classify Socialists and Fascists the same. And it is exactly why the Nazis called themselves the National SOCIALIST Party. To argue this further is a matter of splitting hairs. In either system, private property and individual liberty and freedom are completely squelched. And the people are disarmed and have no recourse. If you wonder whether I think that we are close to that or not, the answer is we are inching closer and closer by the year. Do I think Obozo has the same diabolical ends in mind? No. Not at all. But he’s putting us on that course a good bit further towards tyranny and a good bit further from liberty. And the fact is that a cannon in every garage would certainly insure that any attempt to attack America from without or within would come at such a high price that doing so would not be feasible. And that is exactly the point, and the reason the Founders put in the 2nd Amendment. Are we close to this? NO! Do I see it in my lifetime at 46? Not really. Do I look at history and say that it is likely to happen at some point in time? Absolutely. It always does. History has a nasty way of repeating itself over and over again. We are no different.

            Have a nice day, Metro!

            “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” – C. S. Lewis

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UACYCMKUZJ3TPDOMHLWYO4BF7I Roger

      Ja, Ja sehr gut!

      • dtgraham

        Er habt recht.

  • Michael Kollmorgen

    This is one of dem-darned Jimmy-By- Cracker little situations where the residence of this hick-burbed little community should arm themselves to the teeth – against their own police force.

    Get Yer Guns Grandma!

  • jstsyn

    Yes and we have public servants in Congress that are just as ignorant and stupid that are ignoring the people that elected them.

  • David Golden

    I’m neither a constitutional lawyer nor play one on TV, but aren’t there lots and lots of Supreme Court decisions that clearly prohibit this sort of police misconduct? Did they even do the most minimal due diligence? I guess not.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UACYCMKUZJ3TPDOMHLWYO4BF7I Roger

      Amendment IV of the U.S. Constitution protects us against Unreasonable Search and Seizure. Looks like the Mayor and Top Cop got a crash course in grade school civics from the good citizens of Paragould Arkansas.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Ramsey/100001577804530 Don Ramsey

    Eight to five odds that the chief of police is appointed. Now does anyone doubt that pollitics is about power and little else?

  • Merrick Spiers

    I am sure they see themselves as ardent Constitutionalists.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Funny how you leftist freaks love to use the Constitution and in particular the 4th Amendment in this circumstance, but seemingly believe it to “outdated” on other matters like the 1st, 2nd, and 10th Amendments. Hmmmmm….

    Yet again, another example of leftist freak hypocrisy. SHOCKER!!!!

    Have a nice day!

    “The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty– and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.” — H.L. Mencken, Baltimore Evening Sun, Feb. 12, A. D. 1923

  • ObozoMustGo

    One other question for all of you leftist freaks and useful idiots out there:

    Where is your defense of the 4th Amendment when it comes to the NDAA, which Obozo has now signed twice, that allows the Feds to arrest and detain ANY American on American soil or otherwise, and to hold them indefinitely without due process, representation, or even simple communication with family or attorney?

    What have we heard from The Memo and the rest of you leftist freaks in here on this topic? crickets…… crickets…… crickets………. crickets…….. crickets…. crickets……

    Yeah. That’s what I thought.

    Have a nice day!

    “Societies biggest failure is it has allowed authority to be its truth; and prevented truth from being its authority.” — Mobius Nemesis

    • metrognome3830

      I believe it’s some of the “leftist freaks” who are opposing NDAA through a lawsuit. What are you doing to oppose it?

      Pour yourself another drink, you haven’t mellowed out enough yet.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Uhhhh… Metro…. Not hardly. The leader against the NDAA in Congress has been Rand Paul and a few other conservatives. Unfortunately, your incompetent, progressive Republican Senator McCain has been a champion of the NDAA provisions along with his buddies from the DemonRAT party on the left. In fact, in the last NDAA committee hearings, Paul had an amendment placed in the law removing the provision that allowed Americans to be detained without due process, and McCain was the one who took it out. And Obozo has gleefully signed and reauthorized the NDAA twice now. The NDAA is the Patriot Act on steroids. What do we hear from the leftist media on this? Like I said…. crickets….. crickets….. crickets……

        By the way, my commentary does not mean that there are no liberal groups opposing the NDAA. Just that the leadership on the issue IS Tea Party Conservatives like Rand Paul. This issue is creating strange bedfellows, my friend. For sure!

        Have a nice day!

        “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Ben Franklin

        • metrognome3830

          Take a look at the news this morning, OMG. The reason there has not been more opposition from the left is because they believed Obama when he said he would veto the bill or at least the parts of it that is opposed by “Lefties,” Independents and Righties. It’s the ALCU that is raising hell since he signed the bill after promising a veto. And Obama and I part company when it comes to the NDAA. John McCain a progressive? Not for at least four years. He jumped into bed with the Tea Party “righties” because he saw it as a way to another run at president. Or — perhaps he’s just plain getting senile. He is not MY progressive Republican. He is even slipping fast in ultra-conservative Arizona. He is losing credibility faster than sand through a wire basket. By the way, I read about the uproar over Obama’s “cave-in” on NDAA on the Huffington Post and USA Today — two bastions of right wing only news. :-)

          In re: not spreading lies, I’ll quit when you do. i.e., Nazis were Socialists. I know that’s a lie, you know that’s a lie and even some of the most dim-witted among us know that’s a lie. The only people who ever felt Nazis were Socialists were the Nazis. The closest definition of Nazi was Fascist and they were in fact opposed to most elements of Socialism as were Socialists opposed to Nazism. Look it up.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Metro… read my other response to you where I have clearly laid out multiple Nazi policies that were socialist…. clearly socialist. I’d be happy to get into a tit-for-tat discussion of the definition of political ideologies and their closely related brethren. Socialist/Fascist/Communist are all cut from the same cloth, my friend. Look at the policies. Look at what they did. And know that certainly there are varying levels of each. Hell Metro, I can make a strong case that America is now a socialist state. It’s been creeping upon us since FDR, quicker under some admins, slower under others, turbo boosted under the current Obozo regime. Shoot, those who came here by escaping socialist states can see it plain as the nose on your face. I know a few of those that escaped/left legally the likes of USSR, Hitler, Chavez, Castro, Pol Pot, etc. All of them are socialists of one degree or another. All of them seek “equality” in one form or another. All of them are murderers. It’s not a coincidence that radical socialists must murder citizens for their political aims. How else could they coerce people into prescribed behaviors? And all of those so-called leaders were either democratically supported or outright elected by those they ultimately dominated. In each case, socialism was not foisted upon them in one fell swoop. Most of the people gave up their freedom willfully, over time, in the slow purchase of false security. Sound familiar? It should.

            Have a nice day, Metro!

            “Above all, we must realize that no arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today’s world do not have. It is a weapon that we as Americans do have. Let that be understood by those who practice terrorism and prey upon their neighbors.” – Ronald Reagan

          • metrognome3830

            It is very difficult to have a real in-depth discussion of the differences between Fascism, Communism and Socialism in this forum, OMG. I’ll just say that I respect your arguments or I would not even bother to try to counter them. I ask that you do the same for mine. Just believe that I have done my research on them. And just let me point out that in all the regimes you point to, the rise of Socialism or Communism and Fascism came about as the result of people being under a regime they considered to be even more repressive. Unfortunately, with regime changes, it always becomes necessary to use violence and repression. Under Democracy we still have the advantage of voting for our leaders and so no one can be absolved from voting the wrong way when they don’t at least make the best effort they are capable of making to inform themselves before voting. Too often, now, people vote entirely on headlines, sound bites and information they get from anonymous e-mails. Perhaps we need to outlaw technology (No, of course I don’t believe that.)

            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Metro… as far as I am concerned, socialism/fascism/communism are all the same dogs, just a little bit different in breed. And certainly I respect your views, Metro. You know that I do. Funny thing about the rise of those socialists /fascists /communists is that you are right, they came to power because people THOUGHT they would be better than what they had. They were sold the lies of the real intent of those systems. They believed the hype sold them by slick speaking politicians. The reality, as we all know today, was much worse. After all, who amongst the Germans 20 years later would choose to elect Hitler again? No one. Who amongst the Russians by the 1950s that witnessed the slaughter of 10s of millions would not be begging to have Czar back? All of them would. We have the benefit of hindsight, Metro. We can learn from history. I see multitudes of Americans buying the lies of the left because Obozo can speak so eloquently to them. The policies of the DemonRAT party are much more aligned with the policies of socialism than they are aligned with the principles of Americas founding – individual liberty, private property, and free market economics. And this was my whole point about my response to IZ and his trite and boring attempts to call conservatives Nazis when in fact it is the exact opposite is true as I have proven.

            Have a nice day, my friend. Please send my kindest regards to the best women on the planet, Mrs. Metro! [wink]

            “Nowhere at present is there such a measureless loathing of their country by educated people as in America.” — Eric Hoffer

          • metrognome3830

            Mrs. Metro thanks you profusely and assures me that you must be a gentleman of rare intelligence and wit and sensitivity.

            And may I send my kindest regards to Mrs. OMG.

          • ObozoMustGo

            And by the way, like I said… the NDAA is making for strange bedfellows. I was speaking about the “boots on the ground” fighting the battle in the legislative process, not the self-serving media hounds like the ACLU. And McCain has always legislated like a progressive Republican, Metro. I don’t care what he says in his campaigns. What he does in his votes is what counts. And he has never cozy’d up to the Tea Party, either. Hell, on the floor of the Senate he called the Tea Party “hobbits” and told them to go back to Mordor. He is no friend of conservatives now, and never has been. And Megan McCain is about as stupid as a typical low-information DemonRAT voter can get. The apple does not fall far from the tree, my friend.

            Oh…. Glad to see that you’re not a 100% Obozo drone and you at least can be mildly critical of him.

            Have nice day, Metro.

            “It is indeed difficult to imagine how men who have entirely renounced the habit of managing their own affairs could be successful in choosing those who ought to lead them. It is impossible to believe that a liberal, energetic, and wise government can ever emerge from the ballots of a nation of servants.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

  • kendraorick

    I feel Mr Hightower is a man that, like so many, want to stir up strife and anger in towns. I have lived in this town most of my life. I am a “Paragouldian” as you put it and I totally support the police patroling and stopping people out late at night. Our officials here in Paragould are pretty level headed men and women and I feel very confident that they will be able to determine if someone is out “walking” the dog or if there is reasonable cause to investigate further.

    AS a victim of crime a few yrs back in this small town of 25,000, I would have love some patrol going around to have possibly prevented my vehicle, and friends of mine vehicles from being broken in to. At that time I lived 1 block from the police dept. Thieves are out there more than dog walkers and those visiting with friends.

    So my good man. Don’t make this small town your platform for your own personal goal of promoting yourself. If you really care, come here and do some neighbor hood watches. Patrol with our fine officers and get off the 4th Ammendment kick. It simply makes you like like a zealot.

    Sincerely, Kendra Orick-Paragouldian

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UACYCMKUZJ3TPDOMHLWYO4BF7I Roger

    Good on you, Paragould Arkansas! Next to go the “Patriot Act”…

  • http://twitter.com/RrjgenRachel Rachel Johnson

    Ok. Where do these people come from? Are their neurons not firing on all cylinders? I hope that the duo can be fired. What is it that Forest Gump said, “Stupid is as stupid does.” If that statement doesn’t fit these two, nothing will.

  • metrognome3830

    He was a friend of conservatives, OMG. At one time. I mean he WAS a true conservative in the best sense of the word. But he has lost his direction. He’s a reed blowing in the political wind now. Believe it or not, OMG, I used to respect John McCain because he wasn’t afraid to go against the grain when he disagreed — even with his own party. He stood up for his constituents. You know, like Senators were originally supposed to. Whether I liked everything he stood for, I could still respect him. I like how the right likes to label people. Well, OK, the left does, too. So let’s just say people like to put labels on everything. But first, it was Reagan and Bush I making “liberal” equivalent to being a Devil Worshipper at best. And let’s not forget “Card-Carrying ACLU members.” And, of course, we have to include the left labeling people as “Jack-Booted Thugs. Now the new label is “progressive.” I guess that is the new “liberal.” My definition of the New Conservatives is “radical,” to join in on the labeling. Just what is the objection to the ACLU, by the way? Is it because they hold everyone to the laws they passed? Is it because they don’t understand the concept of laws that were passed only to be used against people we don’t like and not the rest of us? Well, my sister would back you on that. Your real objection is that McCain’s (former) conservatism doesn’t fit your definition of conservatism. As for Obama, I am far from 100% behind him. I think he is being absolutely wimpy. If I were president I would be taking names and kicking ass right now. Which is a good reason never to vote for me as president. de Tocqueville is quite right. But I look at it from a different angle. I don’t look at us as a nation of servants, but our corporations, with complicity from our government, (all of them) are trying to turn us into a nation of servants.

    From one non-servant to another, have a nice day!

  • metrognome3830

    He was a friend of conservatives, OMG. At one time. I mean he WAS a true conservative in the best sense of the word. But he has lost his direction. He’s a reed blowing in the political wind now. Believe it or not, OMG, I used to respect John McCain because he wasn’t afraid to go against the grain when he disagreed — even with his own party. He stood up for his constituents. You know, like Senators were originally supposed to. Whether I liked everything he stood for, I could still respect him. I like how the right likes to label people. Well, OK, the left does, too. So let’s just say people like to put labels on everything. But first, it was Reagan and Bush I making “liberal” equivalent to being a Devil Worshipper at best. And let’s not forget “Card-Carrying ACLU members.” And, of course, we have to include the left labeling people as “Jack-Booted Thugs. Now the new label is “progressive.” I guess that is the new “liberal.” My definition of the New Conservatives is “radical,” to join in on the labeling. Just what is the objection to the ACLU, by the way? Is it because they hold everyone to the laws they passed? Is it because they don’t understand the concept of laws that were passed only to be used against people we don’t like and not the rest of us? Well, my sister would back you on that. Your real objection is that McCain’s (former) conservatism doesn’t fit your definition of conservatism. As for Obama, I am far from 100% behind him. I think he is being absolutely wimpy. If I were president I would be taking names and kicking ass right now. Which is a good reason never to vote for me as president. de Tocqueville is quite right. But I look at it from a different angle. I don’t look at us as a nation of servants, but our corporations, with complicity from our government, (all of them) are trying to turn us into a nation of servants.

    From one non-servant to another, have a nice day!

    • ObozoMustGo

      Right about McCain, Metro. He’s just a feckless collector or a pay check nowadays. Re: ACLU… they are about as anti-American as it gets. They are also hypocrites in the worst way. We can get into this in another thread. And I would vote for you, Metro, no problem. :-)

      Have a nice day!

      “Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm– but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.” — T. S. Eliot

  • kendraorick

    Did anyone ever THINK that the local paper could have misquoted, given half truth, or just left out key details and over exaggerated details? Did anyone think of that? In the area the police will patrol, crime is running rampant. A 90 yr old man was gunned down in his home in the middle of the night. A few hours before that the same two young men held and older woman hostage at gun point while robbing her. They roamed the neighborhood that night looking for places to break in to.
    Get off your High Horse and come here. See our beautiful town and help with finding new ways to protect people in high crime neighbor hoods. Or maybe you think that those hard working people who own property in those areas should just move and allow the non-law abiding folks to just “have it”. That way you don’t have to fear any rights are being violated in your perfect gun free, lala loopsy candy store kind of world.

  • kendraorick

    Oh I almost forgot….. When any of you fall victim to those who chose to ignore the laws or respect the rights of others you will sing a different tune. I have been victim of theft and violation and I don’t like it! I hate gross injustice, but that’s not what is going on here. But what I hate even more is waking at 0330 am to work a full day, raise my children, pay taxes and try to support my community, only to realize I pay for those who sell drugs, neglect their children, live off the government, and feel that I still owe them more. I really don’t feel like paying any more. Especially with my life!

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