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James And Stan Dissect The Rubio Debacle

February 15, 2013 3:45 pm Category: 91 Comments A+ / A-
James And Stan Dissect The Rubio Debacle

In a post-speech phone conversation between New Orleans and Washington, James and Stan expressed amazement at the State of the Union response delivered by Florida senator Marco Rubio, touted as a top contender for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.

They were not impressed.

To James, Rubio’s speech demonstrated that the Republicans “are literally, totally out of gas. The [November] election meant nothing, it was the same speech that Romney would have given, the same speech [George] W. Bush could have given, anybody else. They seem to have one speechwriter for the entire party…If it wouldn’t have been for the visuals of wiping the face, sweating and the water… you wouldn’t know… you wouldn’t know anything kind of happened…”

Rubio made Stan think “someone too young got into the Capitol and wasn’t supposed to be there. Then he gets himself caught between these big tall arches in the Capitol and…stole himself some water.”

“They could have had anyone in the world deliver that speech,” James pointed out. “It could have been competently delivered and everything, there was still nothing in there. There wasn’t a thing that anyone could have seen and thought, ‘You know, I think differently about these people.’”

“So their lesson from the election,” asked Stan, “is that you throw Rubio up there and have him mutter some Spanish words?”

“It’s not only that,” replied James. “What that speech told me is that they think people are just looking for more of the same from Republicans. We want more of the same. We want to continue calling Obama a socialist, we don’t care about the climate… there is nothing in there that says this is a party that’s adjusting…”

“Did you miss how many times he said ‘middle class’?” Stan inquired. “This is the change… he spoke some Spanish words and uttered ‘middle class’ repeatedly.”

“Was there a single thing in there that would make you say, ‘Oh, there’s something different here’? It was like, all we [Republicans] need to do is get someone with a vowel at the end of their last name, minus about 30 [years], and give the same speech we’ve always given.”

“And everyone who does theses speeches, whether it’s [Rep. Paul] Ryan, Rubio, you know, they come up with the same stuff,” said Stan. “And it’s just empty.”

James noted that at least Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal should get credit for acknowledging that he belongs to “the stupid party.” But he added, summing up: “I am utterly flummoxed that a party could learn so little.”

Audio of the call is below:

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  • irishtap

    The Teapublicans are so far removed from reality and ethical restraint they now openly laud efforts to circumvent the processes of representative government. Why are these unpatriotic, yet : ‘skillfully inept’, corporate prostitutes not being flagged as state enemy’s?

    • Carbp

      Because we are a free republic and they have rights, be it right or wrong, to their opinion and actions. This is even when it openly crosses the lines of fairness to any one to more groups. To change this one must be willing to give up the right to free speech and other constitutional rights, are you willing to do so? If I somehow be guarantied that leaders did not abuse power I would give it up.

      • TheSkalawag929

        Yes in a free republic you do have rights but the right cross the line of fairness into unfairness to the detriment of fellow Americans isn’t one of them.

        • Carbp

          Actually it is one of them.. It may be a problem but that the way it is. Hey if you’re not happy with that then you should run for office against those you claim are unfair. Sitting at this message board will not do a thing.

          • TheSkalawag929

            I think that you are confusing the ability to do something with the right to do something. Just because you can do a thing doesn’t give you the right to do that thing.

      • snickers413

        Yes they have rights, but when they choose to run for office their first responsability is to serve our country! That means everyone equally. They sure don’t do that. As far as our rights, we’ve already given up so many of them because of the Patroit Act that I’m not sure we have free speech anymore. Ask all the whistleblowers Obama has sent to prison. All they did was speak the truth that people didn’t want known, and God forbid if you say anything to embarress the government! Once someone gets into office the power just seems to inflate their heads so big that they feel like they can do what they please to anyone they want. It’s been said”When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then, and only then, will there be peace in the world!”

      • irishtap

        In truth we’re a democratic republic. Secondly the Teapublican underhanded machinations including stopping the legislative process at will is seditious behavior, especially when they control congress by virtue of denying true representative government via redistricting. Sure, democrats have played the redistricting game, but NOTHING as harmful as what ‘s been done in such a convoluted, yet ALEC driven manner. Democrats want advantage in elections but have never saught to kill voting rights for fellow Americans. Democratic congressional candidates received 1.4 million more votes than republicans in the last election. The majority wants the dems holding power. The GOP’s congressional power is artificial, contrived. Do you really believe the Tea Party has “the right” to deny citizens their voice through the vote? Frankly I’m stunned that you would give up rights under the guise of : ‘to make things better’. That’s exactly what the Tea Party is working to do. Wear you down and bluff you into accepting certain people should be denied a voice by taking away their voting rights. Without a vote you become insignificant. Just a corporate play thing Carbp, powerful industries will enjoy carte blanche over everything of value about your life.

    • snickers413

      Good question irishtap, and an even better one is when will the fools in the states electing these clowns wake up to the fact that their being screwed over by the very people their voting for. Are we as a nation really that ignorant, or is it racism? Either way these people would rather cut off their noses to spite their own face. How stupid can you get? With all the trouble they’ve caused our country I think they should be charged with nothing less than treason!

  • moss8350

    Yep, sick of it! The question is–what do we do?

  • mbpcg

    I am utterly dismayed and disgusted by the House of Representatives, in particular. while the state of gamesmanship in politics always has run high, it now is reaching its apex (or perhaps its nadir). but what’s to be done? perhaps some insight comes from your graphs and charts: for the most part, it appears republicans were not substantially moved by the president’s comments. given that about half of the u.s. population is republican, does that mean that there is less possibility to reach a consensus or achieve a compromise? is it conceivable that, for either party, it is so abundantly clear that it has such a strong and strongly partisan constituency that its members don’t feel the need to compromise? if so, where does that leave us?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      Little correction: only about 35-37 percent of the population is Republican and that percentage has been decreasing over the past 15 or so years. Hopefully, it will decrease even further as more Republicans wake up and see they’re being taken for a ride by what has become the American Mafia – the GOP. Which has only one intent, separate taxpayers from as much of their money as possible, so those who already have more money than they should ever need, get more.

  • floholmes

    As long as there is a Black President in the White House congress will go against what ever they Hate that a Black man is running this country……So Let ther be no mistake they don’t give a damn….In ’14 We have to Vote them OUT………………………

    • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

      The fact that an African American is sitting in the Oval Office is part of it, but in fairness similar tactics, that culminated in impeachment, were employed when Bill Clinton was President. The difference between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to voting, is that the former will not hesitate to lie, use hyperbole and demonize to destroy their opponents and achieve their political goals, while the latter spends too much time searching for the truth and trying to govern. The only language Republicans understand and respect is one based on ruthlessness. The more vicious you are the more they respect you. The problem with 2014 is that if GOP governors with Republican-controlled legislatures are able to change the Electoral College vote allotments our ability to get control of the House, and keep the Senate, may be in jeopardy.

      • mel

        yep….i remember bill being equated to being a communist. i am sure many members are racists but their main motive is to get a conservative elected, no matter what his color of skin.

      • charleo1

        I seen a poll that, if true, would explain much of the Republican obstructionism, and
        sometimes, as in the case of the Hagel confirmation, just being nasty, and contrary.
        When their only point is simply to be nasty, and contrary, if Obama supports, “it.”
        They must oppose, “it.” Without distinction of what, “it,” is. Even if they have supported, “it,” previously, or as recently as last week. Incredible as it seems, Republicans may be behaving in this manner, because that’s what their constituents want them to do. The poll showed that while 7 in 10 Democrats want their representatives to compromise with the
        Republicans, and move forward on the issues. Republican constituents, however
        wanted just the opposite, with 7 in 10 wanting their representatives to stick to their
        guns, and never compromise with Obama, or the Democrats. I credit this, directly to
        the strident rhetoric used by the Right. As they consistently characterize Obama as
        the most radically liberal President ever elected in the history of the Country. So, how
        could their base possibly be expected to want compromise, when they are lead to
        believe the constant barrage of slander, and vitriol they hurl at Obama on a daily basis?
        So, with Republicans, it’s really not about policy at this point. It’s about opposing Obama.

        • rpg1408

          You’re absolutely right. It’s a sad commentary on the current state of our democratic process.

      • http://www.facebook.com/debbie.kieselryan1 Debbie Kiesel-Ryan

        The electoral college doesn’t play a part in the electing of Senators, Congress or the House, just the President. But the gerrymandering they are planning will put our democratic voting process in jeopardy, because it will not be the majority putting these officials in office. The republicans will be stealing public office and for that they should be ashamed. We the people should be able to sue them for what they are doing!!!!!!!

      • 1EdMeadows83

        Dominick, Yours is the most rational comment I’ve seen on this issue. You should run for office!

      • snickers413

        I agree with everything you wrote. Look at all the real Republicans that they quit backing because they weren’t radical enough! And as far as the Electoral College vote, that scares the heck out of me. They won’t stop until they’ve rigged the whole system, of that I’m sure!

    • jamcrky

      I have say that since the beginning of this President’s term in office 2008.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

        Just to clarify, Obama took office on 1/21/2009; not 2008.

    • Carbp

      A black president is the problem in your opinion? I think not. The problem lies with a debt that no one totally understands and a huge problem taht is lingering down the road.
      I don’t care for the tea partiers, but they do have a point as to the national debt and the continuation of borrowing large sums of money. Much of this can be blamed on both parties, particularly GWB after Clinton lowered that debt. However in fairness, Clinton was only able to lower it in the short term as they took out short term loans where available to cut interest payments on the debt. Those rates expired and came due in the second Bush term and then came the unneeded Iraq war on WMDs that were not there and skyward came the borrowing. Afghanistan doesn’t help it either, we need to stay out of the world police business.
      Tea party people want this borrowing to stop and will sacrifice anything to do so.
      You want this to stop? Get off the net writing which does little good and get out and get those unelected that are causing the problems that we as a nation are now having.

      • highpckts

        Well I disagree! The GOP has been recaltrant since Obama was elected!! From the beginning until now there has seen no change even when the people spoke again on who they wanted to lead this country! They have their own agenda and to Hell with consequences! They won’t be happy until this country is taken back to the “good old days” when white men ruled the world and women and black men knew their place!!

      • charleo1

        Let’s put aside for the moment the racial component to the Republican obstructionism. And assume 3/4 of their intransigence, as a political tactic
        would have been the case with a White Democratic President. As would
        have been their failure to honestly characterize the majority of the exploding
        national debt, as not due to the reckless fiscal policies of Obama, and a
        Democratic Congress. But to the near catastrophic recession, that plunged
        revenue coming into the treasury, while triggering high expenditures built
        into the system. Expenditures that would have taken place regardless of
        the Party that happened to be in charge. And, this continues to be the
        dishonesty in fact, and policy, the Republicans, and even more so the T-
        Party, have chosen as political ploy, to demagogue, and use the issue of
        debt as a cudgel. Now, what this decision has meant, to decide to use the
        debt as a political weapon, has also precluded the Republicans from
        supporting those remedies that put liquidity back into a weakened economy.
        So, if I know it, so do the Republicans, that have been willing to stand by,
        as millions of unemployed Americans struggled to pay their bills, and hold on
        to their homes, and their standards of living, while these trolls, as a minority Party, blocked the various ways to pull a weak economy out of trouble.
        Remedies they knew would work, because they themselves have used them
        in the past.
        I consider their politics in this regard as devoid of morality. I also consider
        their use of the phrase, “Country first,” given their outrageous behavior, an
        outrageous hypocrisy, and just another lie, to join the long chain of lies, and
        deliberate misconceptions, without the slightest intention of solving a single
        problem, for fear they might not get enough of the political credit.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

        What do you mean, no one totally understands the debt? What is it you don’t understand about every GOP president since Eisenhower purposely governing with deficit spending – putting billions of dollars of spending on a credit card? And doing that since Reagan by spending billions outside their budgets. That’s exactly how the GOP has channeled trillions of dollars over the past 30-40 years into the pockets of corporations and their rich donors. Reagan inherited a deficit of 800billion dollars from Carter and he and the two Bushes turned that into over 14 trillion in deficits – these 3 are responsible for more than 90% of the deficits. Bush did that by running close to 1/2 trillion/yr deficits every year he was in office.

        • Carbp

          Whoa.. the rupublican did that.. lets see now, heres a chart right off the the Gov site.
          Congress Session Years Start debt/GDP End debt/GDP Increase debt Increase debt/GDP
          (in Billions of $) (in percentage points)
          F D Roosevelt 77–78 1941–1945 50.40% 117.50% 203 -67.10% -67.10%
          H Truman 79–80 1945–1949 117.50% 93.10% -8 -24.40% -24.40%
          H Truman 81–82 1949–1953 93.10% 71.40% 13 -21.70% -21.70%
          DD Eisenhower 83–84 1953–1957 71.40% 60.40% 6 -11.00% -11.00%
          DD Eisenhower 85–86 1957–1961 60.40% 55.20% 20 -5.20% -5.20%
          JFK/LB Johnson 87–88 1961–1965 55.20% 46.90% 30 -8.30% -8.30%
          LB Johnson 89–90 1965–1969 46.90% 38.60% 43 -8.30% -8.30%
          R Nixon 91–92 1969–1973 38.60% 35.60% 101 -3.00% -3.00%
          Jerry Ford 93–94 1973–1977 35.60% 35.80% 177 0.20% 0.20%
          J Carter 95–96 1977–1981 35.80% 32.50% 288 -3.30% -3.30%
          Ronald Reagan 97–98 1981–1985 32.50% 43.80% 823 11.30% 11.30%
          Ronald Reagan 99–100 1985–1989 43.80% 53.10% 1,050 9.30% 9.30%
          G H Bush 101–102 1989–1993 53.10% 66.10% 1,483 13.00% 13.00%
          Bill Clinton 103–104 1993–1997 66.10% 65.40% 1,018 -0.70% -0.70%
          Bill Clinton 105–106 1997–2001 65.40% 56.40% 401 -9.00% -9.00%
          GW Bush 107–108 2001–2005 56.40% 63.50% 2,135 7.10% 7.10%
          GW Bush 109–110 2005–2009 63.50% 84.20% 3,971 18.20% 18.20%
          Barrack Obama 111–112 2009–2011 84.20% 99.60% 2,888 10.30% 10.30%
          -132.50% 39.90%

          Id send a better copy but discuss isn’t big enough to handle this.. The sheet clearly shows Dems way out front in the borrowing.. Obama isn’t close to being done yet and already he has borrowed as much as GWB and is closing in on Reagan.
          As to the comment about no one understands the debt I was referring to those on this board, not those who actually live the debt. Far too many confuse the debt with the deficit. One adds or sub to the other but they are certainly not the same.
          A lot of the minus didnt copy over but the last col should all start with the minus sign.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001604220854 Ed Puppylove

    It’s time for Washington politics to be put aside and for our elected officials to do what they were elected to do – represent the best interests of the voters. Partisan politics and self interests have become nauseating.

  • Jim C

    The tea baggers and republicans would not know reality if it bit of their ,well you know.

  • jamcrky

    All republicans want is cuts in what they call entitlements. That’s BS, I worked and pay for my benefits all my working life. If you want to talk about entitlements look at these free loaders in congress. They keep their salary and all benefits for the rest of their lives after they leave office.
    Tell you what lets cut what i clearly see as entitlements, our congress’s benefits. After leaving they can only get SS and nothing else, and let return to the workforce like the rest of us

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Voters are fed up with male Bully GOP gatekeepers making all the CEO-style decisions for our tax dollars. Meanwhile, education stagnates, infrastructure crumbles and more Americans live on or near the bankruptcy levels. There is a lot that can be done. Start by impeaching the Speaker of the House. That sends the message that the Speaker cannot play president in situ from his back room office. As for the Tea Party, this isn’t an American effort to put things right. If it was, it wouldn’t be backed by the Koch billionaires any more than Americans for Prosperity (theirs, not yours) are backed by 7 Texas Billionaires. How is billionaire support of the Tea Party not a major influence on its agenda?

    Democrats and Independents better wake up and smell the coffee if they don’t want their votes to be overruled by rich, white, bully males who want the government to be a corporation with them acting as CEOs and the board of directors who will be the typical CEO tyrant.

  • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.s.dunn.7 Christopher S. Dunn

    It is clear that, We, the People really have to comprehend the nature of both the issues between the two Parties and that it is, in fact, a war of ideology. In war, the most determined, the most pragmatic and the most strategic acts require: Good training, great intelligence (in the sense of knowing your opponent) and maintaining momentum through pressing advantages and finding ways to deflate the advantages of your opponent.

    The objective of the Republican Party is obvious, or should be: They support the 01% Oligarchic Corporatocracy Movement. They use Lower Taxes = Job Creation, Welfare = Lazy and Peace = Warfare. Sound familiar? Anyone who has read Orwell’s “1984” should recognize the Doublespeak. This is double plus ungood. The objective of these sloganized lies is to reduce the will of their constituency to think for themselves.

    Abraham Lincoln said it best: You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

    We, the People need to step back from Party lines. This nation is a progressively Centrist nation. Pretty much always has been. In the lines of Ideological War, we must divest ourselves of useless shills except as decoys to our opponents. It is going to be a protracted War of Words if we wish to avoid bloodshed. I dearly wish to avoid bloodshed.

    Remember our first President? He lost his first eight battles. Anyone might have just said after that, “We are lost, let’s sue for peace and make the best of it.” We see the Democratic Party do this all the time. They are more than happy to throw the rest of us under the bus to bide their time. But what do they do with that time? They squander it, each little clique believing their particualr “issue” is the primary one and they then squabble amongst themselves over how to go about achieving some mythic victory over the single minded authoritarian war machine that is the Republican Party.

    We need a new Party and it won’t be tossing Tea into the Harbor. The first objective is grassroots support that costs only an internet connection. You all have that, right? It is a clearly focused group of no particular affiliation other than we Love our Country and Hate what’s being done to it in the name of politics. Maybe we should call it the Liberty Party — that might even attract Libertarians, who are not all as crazy as Ron Paul.

    First objective: End the Citizen’s United ruling by whatever means necessary. Next, make Gerrymandering Illegal and require non-political redrawing of district maps based on geographical area, not Political Demographics. After that, or perhaps in conjunction with that, vote only for new candidates whenever possible for at least two maybe three full election cycles and put all politicians on notice: You can — and will — be replaced.

    It requires a Long Strategy Peoples’ Campaign to conduct this Ideological War of Words. This is definitely not for the Summer Soldier. Think it over and start training now by keeping up the pressure on your elected representatives to act on your behalf. Tell them what to do and don’t let them justify their selfish behavior in terms of, “I believe that…” Screw them, they derive their just power to govern through the consent of the goverened — rescind your consent for anything you don’t like.

    You have a Voice. Use it.

  • William Deutschlander

    The Republican Cartel does not care one bit about 98% of the American citizens.

    The Republican Cartel only and exclusively cares about power, control and wealth accumulation for their financial supporters.

    The Republican Cartel is furious that a Black President saved the USA from the financial collapse the Republican Cartel, through ignorance and incompetence, thrust the nation into!

    The Republicans and Teapublicans have neither the intelligence nor the will to GOVERN, the Republicans are only capable of OBSTRUCTING GOVERNING.

    Anyone who votes for a Republican or Teapublican votes AGAINST THEIR OWN WELL BEING!

    • Beaulieu6

      You are absolutely right and I agree with you at 100% percent, the Republicans are always been the party of “NO” their leader Speaker John Boehner is out of touch with reality he only think about himself and the wealthiest 2% percent the millionaire and billionaire he dosen’t care about the Middle-Class 98% percent, the poor living below poverty line.

  • http://www.facebook.com/debbie.kieselryan1 Debbie Kiesel-Ryan

    This country is already 17th in the world for education. Our children can’t complete for jobs, companies bring H1B and H2B workers from overseas to do jobs our children don’t have the education to qualify for. Why would we not invest in education, so we can compete on a global level.Our communications and internet systems are in jeopardy and have been attacked by the Chinese government. China is where all our prosperous businesses have gone to, just to make the CEO’s of this country richer. Where did Bell Labs disappear to? They had the technology to stop this, when I worked at AT&T, we were the inventors, but they divested this technology and sold it to the highest bidder and then allowed the vulture capitalists to run our divested companies into the ground!!!! We are doing this to ourselves!!! Everytime you vote republican you are telling our government it’s OK to do this!!!!! We are putting our country at risk with the way we vote!!!! We need elected officials who are not bought and paid for by corporate America, ones that represent the “Will of the People.” Think long and hard about, are we going to invest in our country or are we going to practice austerity, which is what is taking Europe down right now!!!!

    • joe schmo

      Wrong. What would you have the nation do? Vote only Liberal? Do you want a solely Communist regime. Because if you do that is one more vote in the wrong direction. We need both to balance this country out or have you forgotten that.

      1) Why would we not invest in education – To give you a clue….we have been but your Liberal way of teaching is NOT working. Since the 60’s we have proceeded invest in secularism and equality for all. We have enabled dumbing down and the brainwashing of a nation with ridiculous programs like ‘Common Core’ and the idea of no child left behind. I realize how much my European parents learned and how their schools were when compared to ours. I know how tough our colleges to some degree still are. Level of brain capacity is different in every human being. It is not fair to those who are intellectually bright to be burdened and bored with mainstream education. Why not make regular schools like colleges. A place where you have to work and compete for your grades. If a child is bright, challenge them. Give them classes to fuel their creativity and brilliance. We need to stop coddling kids. It is making them weak adults. I have taught at the college level. I have taught minorities. I expected a lot from my students and guess what? They did not hate me, the result was total respect because I treated everyone fairly. If I felt they were bright, I challenged them. I am still regarded highly today at that school.

      3) LOL, China. They are but laughing in our face. Don’t even get Donald Trump started on that one. One answer to the problem. Throw NAFTA out the window. Incite Import tarriffs on China. That would pay down most of our debt towards them. Our manufacturing jaggernaut has jumped ship and taken the next boat to China and everywhere else because ….little drum roll here…..of our Unions. Helloooo! Don’t you solely blame this whole debacle on Conservatives. Another reason….taxes, taxes, taxes. You can play the blame game all you want..but your still left with yourself. I can give you another clue. Another example, Visual Effects for the film industry has been outsourced for years. Working on a film for American’s is like working in a sweatshop environment. The producers treat you like crap! If you don’t work hard for them every waking minute of your life they threaten to shift their resources overseas…. Not only that, the subsidies from other countries beckons filmmakers and you want to see global?

      4) CEO’s LOL….another laugh in our faces. The richest people in America are…..Liberals. They have got your number. They sit in their little offices, need no employees and play big number games with our money. One of them…..George Soros. Their are few Capitalists left. The Liberal anarchists have plucked them out.

      ‘And the three richest men in America – Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and Larry Ellison – all are liberals.

      This runs contrary to the media fiction that the rich people in America are Republicans. This fiction is repeated over and over in the media in order to win over ignorant people to the Democrat party. And there are plenty of them, mostly among the angry, envious poor; in the agitated and shrinking middle class; and in the perpetually enraged labor union movement.’

      Read this if you don’t believe me:
      http://nikitas3.com/1083/why-are-so-many-rich-people-liberals/

      What Corporate America, there is little of it left.

      ‘Will of the People.’ Who your side? We have rights to you know…

      Yes, austerity has something to do with European economics. They face the same scenario we face here in the US. Absorbing poor immigrants. So instead of focusing on things that matter to the countries that helps build it up, the countries are focusing on social incentives. Social incentives that pay for everything the poor immigrant so desires. My family is from Europe. Family members tell us these things. The Europeans are burdened every day with new people coming in, stealing. These poor immigrants know how to work the system. Just like they do here. They earn their keep from social programs without a question asked. They get free food, free housing, free jobs… and the regular inhabitants get to sit by and get kicked to the curb. In a newly built apartment building, you may have 2 inhabitants with the rest immigrants…..So what are some of the regular inhabitants doing. Moving out, Moving to other countries where there are less burdensome individuals and more rules against socialist programs. Poor immigrants don’t have the education. It drags down a nation. I have no problem with immigrants but we cannot coddle them and there has to be a quota.

      As far as H1B and H2B. I would much rather see a well educated contributor to society here than all the poor undereducated lepers that we have now that only drag the country down. My parents were immigrants. They had to know the language, they had to know the Constitution, they had to have $1000.00 in a bank account. They had to work hard to live here and were given NO freebies. There was a Quota!

      You need to become more educated in the world before you spew off on what you think is right and wrong with our country.

  • feeeo

    In the words of Will Rogers, the Republicans want “the best government that money can buy.” Their plan is to fool as many people as possible with constant propaganda, cynical appeals to patriotism, redefinition of words as it suits them, and (that old standby) just plain lying.
    They fooled us once (their fault). If we let them fool us again, “it’s our own damn fault.”

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HJIWONQOW4EAYMCA4QH2DDJMBU MARK

    To say that I am sick of this crap does not begin to describe what I feel. Americans are not merely being ripped off for the money,they areripped off for thier government,thier country,thier future and thier lives. No matter how many times I look at this mess from every angle and every perspective of which I am capable,I come to the same basic conclusion and there seems no way to avoid it. Since the New Deal,Republicans have been on the wrong side of every issue of concern to ordinary Americans.Social Security,the Vietnam War,equal rights,civil liberties,seperation of Church and State,consumer issues,public education,reproductive freedom,national healthcare,labor issues,and tax fairness.No political party could remain so consistantly wrong by accident. The only rational conclusion is that,despite thier cynical “family values” propaganda,the Republican Party is a criminal conspiracy to betray the interests of the American people in favor of fascist,plutocratic and corporate interests and absolutist religious groups.It is past time for every American who believes in our countries foundational principles to wake up and realize that we are at war with fascism and that currently we are losing that war.We must ask ourselves,How we can avoid a violent national conflict when we have repeatedly invested ourselves by trying to work within the system and get no long lasting beneficial results. How is it that every aspect of our our system of government previously sound,permanent,and unshakeable is up for grabs? Is it because every level from local to Capital Hill is perverted,corrupt and cancerous? I hope that it is not but let me say that I am one who believes that America is worth fighting for and that the will of The People should prevail. The American people have won a national election but three months on they feel as though they are losing,with just cause. Before I would be content to see the continuation of the status quo that is our current predicament,I would go to any lengths to protect the country that I love from ruination. The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself. That,in its essence, is fascism- ownership of government by an individual,by a group,or any controlling private power.” F.D.R. Now tell me please how legislation like Citizens United and the Judges who approved it are not Fascist.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sandra.arnold3 Sandra Arnold

    The Rep’s always looked out for themselves. Washington since all of the Bush’s has not been for the people.I think they should try to feed a family,pay taxes,all kinds of insurance,house notes and all else on mininumn wages.Besides minimum wage should be $10.50 an hr.If stores have to raise prices people will pay those prices because people will be able to afford things .Too, It will encourage more to go to work.With 2 people working daycare takes one whole check right off the bat.The banks don’t even listen to Obabma about re financing houses for people trying to hang on to a roof over their heas.My daughter has been trying to do that for a year.Wish I could talk to the President about that.Instead her house note has risen.When leaving office they should leave with just ss. Not all the benifits for themselves and their families.And serve no more than a couple of terms.Pay all like we pay.All those under the table deals that make them money and protecting the rich should never have happened in the 1st place.The people didn’t vote for all the mess that’s going on…I’m 70 my husband is 80. Our medicine cost more than ever.The elderly worked hard and formed this country.Now we seem to be forgotten.The rich don’t care because they take care of their parents.My kids can’t take care of us cause the Goverment is robbing them of their future money,savings and getting ahead….Too,Bainer needs to go.He’s a BIG negetive.
    I don’t see why we have to have 2 partys anyway…One united should be the way to go for the people!We voted for Obama and he’s the President so, he needs to push back like Bush Jr. andd lead with ideas of Clinton!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gary-Reynolds/100000496395402 Gary Reynolds

    The GOP has a well coordinated program of gerrymandering and voter suppression. Taken in total it amounts to an attempted coup in a democracy and should be met with force if necessary to preserve the democracy and its ideals.

    • tobewan

      That appears to be true, The republican Congress and their Republican Corporate backers are attempting a coup d’e tat of controlling and showing they control America. Putting the Sequester into force is nothing short of causing America to its knees in recognition of their MASTERS – Corporate America.
      AND, orchestrate to blame it all on Pres. Obama.
      What stone from the brook can bring down the giants defying our democratic nation. This can hardly wait until the 2014 election time. THEY are the dictators as we are seeing.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

        Had Romney been elected, they would have been very close to accomplishing their coup: he would have become nothing more than a figurehead for corporations running America. He had already gotten a number of companies (the Koch Bros., GE, BofA, and others) to intimidate their employees into voting for him by sending out letters to them saying that they may lose their jobs if Obama was reelected. Fortunately, that didn’t happen. But people need to wake up and see what corporations are working to do – take over America!!

  • Beaulieu6

    The Republicans are out of touch with reality they create a problem and than they put the blame on President Obama they created the sequester those automatic spending cuts, that will hurt the Middle-Class 98% percent, small businesses the 97% percent, the poor living below poverty line, seniors like myself 60 and over. They don’t care who they hurt in the process in which they only care about themself and the wealthiest 2% percent the millionaire and billionaire.
    President Obama is doing an excellent job he reach across the aisle to Republicans but all they know is “NO” and to obstruct the President. House Speaker John Boehner have said “that President Obama has no plan to stop the sequester” in which it’s false, the President has a plan in which he as layout this pass week, House Speaker Boehner cannot even negotiate with his own caucus.
    As a Middle-Class retiree who’s worked physically hard with my colleagues at the Florida Coca-Cola Bottling Company on the production line from 1976 to 2006, in which in 2006 I have retired with great pride and dignity, I know what it takes to built and grow an economy. During those 30 years I always worked together with my colleagues in which we contributed to our economy in which we generated economic growth.
    I stand with President Obama, Democrats, and the Middle-class 98% percent I strongly support President Obama agenda who will lead America toward a lasting prosperity, this is why I oppose the Sequester.
    We are going on the right direction in which our economy has improved and is getting stronger but the sequester would be a huge set back to our economy, the Republicans must compromise and stop the sequester and look at the Federal budget and closed loophole, we must invest in Education the jobs of tomorrow, Renewable Energy, and our Infrastructure in repairing our crumbling roads and bridges.
    I’m optimistic with great confidence in President Obama, Democrats, and the Middle-Class 98% percent we must keep going forward and call on House Republicans to stop the sequester immediately in which if they don’t they will not feel the pain, the Middle-Class, Seniors, and the poor living below poverty line will feel the pain. I strongly believe that there is hope for America and with our faith America will be successful.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HJIWONQOW4EAYMCA4QH2DDJMBU MARK

      I agree that there is hope and I remain hopeful and vigilant with brief moments of cautious optimism.

  • Beaulieu6

    President Obama top priorities on his first and second term is to grow the economy in which his agenda do just that now, House Republicans must put their differences to the side and make an effort and work with President Obama to grow our economy, the Republicans must pass a budget Act that will cut waistful spending, invest in Education, Renewable Energy, and our infrastructure in repairing our crumbling roads and bridges and some revenue.
    “Were there is a will there is a way” as I believe America as the will and the way to be a successful nation.
    I remain optimistic and confident that together as one great and strong nation we can grow our economy and reach prosperity for all.

  • Beaulieu6

    The Republicans are responsible for the Sequester they must be held accountable for the pain they are causing to the Midddle-Class 98% percent, now they need to work harder to replace the Sequester!

  • Beaulieu6

    We should and must eliminate the taxpayers subsidies to big oil Corporation and take that money to grow our economy!

  • Beaulieu6

    Last week Speaker Boehner have said this “dealing with the White House is like dealing with a bowl of jello to me this was not a smart remark in which you could tell that Speaker Boehner is really out of touch with reality. Not only speaker Boehner is out of touch with reality but he is also out of touch with the Middle-Class 98% percent, he and House Republicans the obstructionist doesn’t care who they have hurt in the process, because they don’t have a heart.
    Those automatic spending cuts across the board were unecessary because it will impact our economy at a time that our economy was doing better and getting stronger, but I strongly believe that House Republicans can sit down with Democrats and the President in finding ways to grow our economy.
    It’s time for House Republicans to take a bold and swift step in the right direction and end those waistful taxpayers subsidies to Big oil Corporation in which make Billions in profits, and doesn’t need those subsidies on top of that.
    President Obama is working hard and have asked Speaker Boehner and House Republicans to find ways to replace the Sequester with a balance approach in which I stronly support and believe that we must and can grow our economy.
    I remain optimistic and with great confidence and are hopeful that a balance approach can be reach soon.

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