Sure, as long as they’re not genetically related.

“Since heterosexuals can marry, can parents marry their children?”

Sure, as long as they’re not genetically related.

I’ll say it again: Whatever is allowed, and is proper for, heterosexuals should be allowed for homosexuals. I advocate for no special treatment, or rights, for either group, just those rights that we all enjoy.

Of course I don’t hold Jodi Foster liable for the attempt on Reagan’s life- that’s ludicrous. I also can say that I have no idea what the relationship was between Ted Bundy and God at the time of his execution either. I don’t pretend to know the soul of any person, their personal status with God or whether their name is written in the “book of life.” I can’t wrap my mind around what goes on in the mind of a murder- especially a serial killer. There are many things in life that I don’t understand. Why do wonderful people get diseases and die? Why do some suffer with mental illness?

I want to make it abundantly clear: I DO NOT ADVOCATE ABORTION!!! I feel we should be doing MORE to reduce the need for women to feel compelled to make this choice- RESPECT THE RIGHT, REDUCE THE NEED. There are more options now for birth control and I would like to see these be more accessible. That is, insurance companies should be paying for birth control, period. More education for our young people is vital as well.
I do firmly believe abortion should be legal and medically safe. I know that when abortion is illegal, MORE people die. Abortion doesn’t just stop because it’s illegal no matter how much you think it will. Illegal abortion means quacks and back ally abortionist come out of the woodwork. Women still will seek out abortions even under unsafe conditions and risk their health, their fertility and even their lives. I will fight for a woman’s right to choose. I don’t care what you say or do.

Thank you, dtgraham. I am a mystic. A condition of birth. I say that as one who has studied the Bible, both the New and Old Testaments, as well as other Holy Writ.

I am blessed to see there, what others miss, for much is hiding in plain sight, but require “eyes to see.”

My greatest source of knowledge comes from within–a continuously flowing wellspring of Wisdom that is available to us all, if only we would open our hearts and minds to the possibility.

“Gay marriage was legalized in Canada a long time ago and absolutely nothing has changed that I’m aware of.”

It speaks to the evolutionary strides of Canadians. Would that the whole world was equally advanced and equally evolved. It will happen, though, soon or late, but happen it will.

“Nothing for anyone to worry about.”

True. It all works out in the end–as our end is assured–but we can do it without inflicting pain on each other, or being the instrument of needless suffering.

“I’ve made this same comment some time ago on a very old thread that may never have been read by anyone.”

Continue to share your truth. I know–from time to time–it seems like screaming into the wind, but I continue to do my part, one person at a time, to bring the changes that this world so desperately need.

I’ve made this same comment some time ago on a very old thread that may never have been read by anyone. Gay marriage was legalized in Canada a long time ago and absolutely nothing has changed that I’m aware of. Nobody has married their cat or their laptop, and there’s been no sudden demand for polygamy or anything like that. Heterosexuals still get married in the same numbers and their marriages don’t seem to fall apart because some gay couples got married last week.

American conservatives are getting all worked up over nothing. Gay marriage is coming to America in the near future, and it will be the same in America as in Canada. Nothing for anyone to worry about.

“Are you saying we should make being gay illegal OR make everything that adults want to do, like drugs and prostitution, legal?”

[Argument by misrepresentation]

You’ve misrepresented my position to set up a straw man. Look closer at the quote that you conveniently provided. Notice anything? I said this: If it’s legal for heterosexuals, it should be legal for homosexuals.

Rather than go on a tangent, you should have spent that time and space advancing your argument, which, so far, is weak at best.

“Gay people already have civil unions that give them the same rights as married couples.”

In your mind, they’re different so let’s treat them differently.

Here’s a question for you: Are “civil unions” fine with all heterosexual couples? It would give them the “same rights as married couples.”

Your problem: You see the two groups–heterosexual couples and homosexual couples–as different in some way. They’re not! They grow up like other kids, dreaming about pretty much the same things, with the sames hopes and aspirations–and part of those aspirations are cultural in nature–including marriage, raising a family, and owing a home in the suburb.

Because they love someone of the same sex doesn’t make them somehow different from the rest of us, They Are Us. They have community spirit like the rest of us. They are patriotic like the rest of us. They serve their country by joining the military like the rest of us. The contribute to the society in which they were born just like the rest of us.

They’re our children, our sisters, our brothers, our aunts and uncles, our nephews and nieces. But on the issue of marriage–because it’s to a same-sex partner–we think it’s okay to discriminate, and reduce their relationship by not allowing them to solemnify it the way that others do.

it’s not okay!

“Should two brothers be aloud to get married? Should a bi-sexual be aloud to marry a man and a woman? Should parents be aloud to marry their adult children or is that sick to you?”

[Argument by straw man, and employing a slippery slope]

I’ll say it again: Whatever is allowed, and is proper for, heterosexuals should be allowed for homosexuals. I advocate for no special treatment, or rights, for either group, just those rights that we all enjoy.

“You need to accept all freakish things once you take marriage passed one man and one woman, because, who are you to tell somebody who they love?”

[More argument by slippery slope]

I’ll say it again: Whatever is allowed, and is proper for, heterosexuals should be allowed for homosexuals. I advocate for no special treatment, or rights, for either group, just those rights that we all enjoy.

“It just comes down to: What kind of society do you want to live in?”

One where we don’t create a special class of people because of their sexual orientation; one that adheres to the spirit and letter of the Constitution that guarantees “equal rights under the law”; And one where we live and let live as long as the law doesn’t forbid it, and the law doesn’t forbid one thing for one and not another, for reasons that are foundationless.

I want to live in a society where we focus on things that really matter–not whether a man wishes to marry another man, or a woman wishes to marry another woman.

I say: Wish them Godspeed, and happiness, for relationships are Life’s most instructive tool, and Life’s greatest challenge, be they relationships within same-sex marriages, or not.