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Sunday, October 23, 2016

As a lifelong liberal, I cannot join those who are celebrating recent polling that shows Republicans’ popularity has tanked to an all-time low.

For me, that kind of gloating after three weeks of our government’s shutdown would feel unpatriotic. It’s my country, too, and I am worried. Not just about the multibillion-dollar hit to the economy but about our collective mood, too.

What a lousy victory if our cheer is, “Ha-ha-ha, your side scared Americans so much that they finally like us better.” No one wins when a small group of extremists in our own government is able to bring us so close to breaching our country’s statutory debt ceiling.

A recent Washington Post-ABC News poll revealed an American public worried about long-term economic harm here and our damaged image abroad.

America always has paid its bills. That any country anywhere in the world doubted for a moment that we would continue to do so has left us reeling.

The poll also showed that this time, the majority of Americans know where to place the blame for this near catastrophe.

Reporters Dan Balz and Scott Clement, writing for The Washington Post: “There was little in the findings for the GOP to feel good about. The party’s image has sunk to an all-time low in Post-ABC surveys, with 32 percent of the public saying they have a favorable opinion and 63 percent saying they have an unfavorable view. Almost 4 in 10 Americans have a strongly unfavorable view of the GOP.

“The Tea Party fares just as badly. Barely a quarter of the public has a favorable image of the movement, the lowest rating in Post-ABC polling.”

Will this hurt the Tea Party movement? Over the past couple of years, I’ve interviewed and interacted with enough people who identify themselves as members of the Tea Party to know they are not a monolithic group. Two years ago, for example, at a Tea Party rally in a Cleveland suburb, a group of people who swore to me that homosexuality is a violation of the Bible stood just feet away from those who insisted the government should stay out of America’s bedrooms.

“To each his own,” one man said as his wife shook her head in disagreement.

It was that kind of day, all day long.

The one thing elected Tea Partiers seem to have in common is their rage. Earlier this month, they managed to harness it long enough to hold our country hostage and inflict irreparable damage while accomplishing exactly nothing they set out to do.

The only thing they proved is that rage has a way of sharpening edges but dulling the senses. Not the tools we need to dig our way out of this malaise — and “malaise” is the word as one poll after another chronicles the growing sense of futility Americans feel about the future of our country.

  • Sand_Cat

    “Irreparable damage” was one of the goals of at least some of the TP, so they did achieve something they wanted, if the author is correct.

  • sigrid28

    What would happen if we looked at this “malaise”–or melancholy–which threatens to spread throughout the nation, as just another success in which the Tea Party rejoices. I see it as a piece with Republican fear-mongering and McCarthy-like intimidation, their other favorite means of irritating the American public. I’m in total agreement with Connie Schultz about how worrisome this is and what a serious threat a repetition of this tantrum and its costs poses for our country.

    Where we part ways, if we do at all, is in devising the correct strategy for dealing with it. Depression is widely viewed as unacknowledged rage, which must be dealt with somehow if it is to be abolished. So first of all, Americans in general, and Democrats in particular, had better get used to the idea that Republicans have done something to us that has made us very, very angry.

    Furthermore, they fully intend to do it again. When we tell them, “We are mad as hell and we’re not gonna put up with it anymore,” like that guy in the classic American film “Network,” what do they do? They say they think they might shut down the government AGAIN and threaten not to raise the debt ceiling in three months because–as Ted Cruz never tires of reminding us–“The American people are so afraid of being ruined by the trainwreck that is Obamacare.”

    “Who are these scared-y-cat Americans anyway?’ I want to ask Cruz right to his smug little face. Now, three quarters of us are even angrier and ready to vote him and the rest of the Tea Party out of office–but there’s a year to go before the midterm elections. So how do we, as a nation, dispel this anger in the meantime?

    There are the usual imprudent outlets, many of which are the subject of twelve-step programs. You can always punch a pillow shaped like an elephant. As an optimist by temperament, I try to cope with rage by redirecting my energy into something worthwhile. In this case, I’m casting my lot with President Obama and the pressure to pass immigration reform. That ought to win Democrats a few seats in 2o14.

    I think many depressed Americans would be cheered up if Democrats launched a highly vocal campaign to raise the minimum wage, demonstrating the Democrats support for this at all levels of government and inviting Republicans bring up the volume on their hatred for the idea. That ought to lose them a few seats in 2014.

    I would also love to see the effects of passage of the American Jobs Act, slowing down traffic nationwide with job-creating improvements to our infrastructure. Think of the shot in the arm two million jobs would give the economy. Democrats should invest in some old-fashioned billboards for voters to read during rush hour traffic jams: “This new bridge brought to you by Democrats in Congress and President Barack Oblama, who signed the American Jobs Act of 2013 [or 2014] on FILL IN THE DATE.” That ought to win Democrats a few seats in 2014.

    Finally, just to aggravate Ted Cruz, I think we should spread word of the benefits of the ACA, especially among the young adults we know. It’s fun, because so much of this good news is anecdotal. You tell a good story, you are not telling a young adult what to do, you are just entertaining them. Nobody minds being entertained, which is what Republicans forget when they commit themselves to threatening, fear-mongering, and intimidating their fellow Americans. Lighten up, Republicans. Now that the parks are open, you’re about to go on vacation.

    • 788eddie

      Hey sigrid, I like your prescriptions!

      Thank you.

      • sigrid28

        I’m like Lucie in the Peanuts cartoons. “That’ll be five cents, please.”

        • 788eddie


    • montanabill

      Not to worry, Debbie Schlutz, Joe Manchin, Mark Pryor, Mary Landrieu, Kay Hagan, and more by now, are spreading the word about Obamacare and joining the Tea Partiers calling for a delay in implementation. Oh, and the hundreds of thousands in multiple states who are being kicked off the insurance that had and liked, are spreading the word. Along with the tens of thousands who have been informed by their physician that they will no longer get to keep the doctor they liked. And, how about the tens of thousands who are getting sticker shock when they do find out what a replacement insurance policy will now cost. No doubt about it, the word about the benefits of Obamacare are spreading rapidly.

      • charleo1

        I’m not worried Bill. People in multiple sates, kicked off their policies.
        T-Party calling for delay. I’m assuming they already have insurance.
        So it’s not like delaying the insurance, takes any skin off their nose.
        I want to hear that 50 or so in the T- Party Caucus say, we’re returning our Government provided insurance policies today! And buying our
        own insurance from the free market! No Socialism for us! By the way,
        how many Americans without a dime’s worth of insurance do you
        think it will take, if ObamaCare fails, before we go to single payer?
        It’s 50 million now. So, what’s the tipping point, where these corporate
        insurance companies get a little too cute. And since they add absolutely nothing to the actual healthcare, they get cut out altogether?
        So, in five years it will be 70 million, then 100 million without. How
        long do you suppose this goes on?

        • montanabill

          Obamacare will fail because it was designed to fail. However, I think you seriously underestimate the American desire not to be a socialist country with single payer. If you ever wake up to how bad Obamacare is, multiply it by 10 for single payer.

          • charleo1

            It makes no sense it would be designed to fail, if Conservative
            principals like individual responsibility, and free market competition still mean anything. Or, that’s what Conservatives
            used to believe. Maybe now they see one, or two companies
            cornering the market, and just screwing the hell out of the public as a better way to run things. As to Socialism, or
            Socialistic programs run by the Government. The Right Wing
            keeps telling Americans they won’t like them. But, Americans
            keep finding out, that they really are quite fond of Socialistic
            programs like Social Security, and Medicare. That they aren’t
            the end of freedom, like they said Medicare would be. And, politicians that clearly think more of their corporate pals than
            regular Americans, have lost a lot of credibility over the years.
            So, if it comes down to where 60/80 million people get priced
            out of the health insurance market. Which is exactly where
            it was headed. And, they can see where they’ll be in the
            position of being just one serious illness, or accident away from losing their life savings, and home, because the medical bills would run them into bankruptcy. People aren’t going to
            give a hoot, what Republicans call it. That’s why I say, if
            these Republican Governors really want to help their pals
            in the health insurance business, they would do whatever
            possible to see ObamaCare is a success. Because, the
            next National Health Policy, won’t include them, or their
            very nice 20% profit margin, right off the top.

          • montanabill

            Perhaps some Americans are fond of socialist programs, but there are still some of the self-reliant people that built this country around who don’t think much of socialism. And there are a few people around who have paid enough attention to know that socialism doesn’t work for very long and while its working, the country dissolves into two classes: the well-to-do political class and the just-getting-by everyone else class.

            I know you are quite fond of using the scare of ‘one serious illness’, but with or without Obamacare, unless you have a major medical policy, Obamacare won’t save you anymore than Medicare or any standard health policy. Wise up.

          • 788eddie

            Maybe we shouldn’t confuse socialism with communism: they’re not the same.

            Social Security and Medicare (which we pay into during our working years and get back later on in life) could be described as socialistic. They do help keep elderly people in our country (who have worked hard all of their lives) from starving or dying slow and painful deaths.

            My Christian upbringing has taught me to help those who are infirm or in need. I have no problem with that philosophy.

            BTW, I agree with you about the two classes. But I think that giving tax cuts to the wealthy haven’t helped here.

          • WhutHeSaid

            So why are you still slurping up that ‘socialist’ Social Security payment and why are you Montanans still snorting up an over-sized share of federal tax dollars?

            I would think that by now a self-proclaimed ‘job creator’ with a likewise self-proclaimed ability to create and endless string of successful businesses out of nothing but the lint in his pocket would have turned Montana from a state chock-full of redneck goober freeloaders into an economic Shangri-la.

          • charleo1

            In case you haven’t noticed, Capitalism, with a Bill of Rights,
            is not doing very well lately for the working people of this
            Country. In fact it hasn’t worked very well at all for the better
            part of 40 years. Which was the last time the average increase in wages, also increased disposable incomes.
            Since 1972, wages have not kept up with the cost of food, gas, housing, college tuition, the cost of medical care, or the premiums for medical insurance. While, we are very aware, the mix of Capitalism, with Communism is doing splendidly. As evidenced by the loss of 10 million of our manufacturing jobs over the last decade, and a half. We also know, that the vast majority of these workers went back to work in jobs that paid far less. And were far less likely to offer medical insurance. And that, companies today are 5X less likely to contribute to those medical plans when they do offer them, than just a decade earlier. So, I don’t believe that Americans
            who’s financial security is threatened, because they have
            been locked outside the health insurance door, for having
            a pre-existing medical condition, are interested in an academic discussion on the virtues of Capitalism, versus the
            evils of Socialism. That’s a fascinating topic, only among
            those fortunate enough to have insurance. For those with
            a family, a home they own, a college fund for the kids, or a
            nest egg for their retirements, but are without health insurance, which describes millions of people today. Scare
            tactics are not necessary, as the number one cause of
            personal bankruptcy, is uninsured medical costs. You
            want me to wise up? How about you facing facts? Barack
            Obama did not invent this crisis, it’s real for the millions of
            Americans who’s only access to a doctor for their kids, is
            the emergency room. This is not like fraudulent voting.
            Something cooked up for political advantage. The crisis
            is the result of years of eroding paychecks. Decades of
            the American labor force losing ground. The Middle Class
            being hallowed out, while the working poor, slip into poverty.
            It’s not government dependence people have ever strived
            for. But they will do what’s best for themselves, and their
            families. Obama Care, or nothing at all, is an easy choice.

          • montanabill

            You are right Charlie. It hasn’t worked well since the social engineering projects started. However, if you, for one minute think the mix of capitalism with communism is working well anywhere, I invite you to take an extended visit and immerse yourself in the culture. Who knows, you may like it.

            American financial security is threatened only by the nanny state that is squeezing self-reliance from the culture. The ‘can do’ country is becoming a ‘do it for me’ country.

          • charleo1

            I wasn’t advocating Communism. I was merely pointing out
            the obvious. The hand in hand cooperation of the Chinese Communist State, and Capitalist from the U.S. has worked out very well for both. But you knew that. So, all the immerse
            myself in the culture stuff, was a dodge on your part. As I
            was saying, with Communism it’s all about the State. And with Capitalism, it’s all about exploiting labor. And, where is exploitation any easier, than a Country who’s labor force has zero Civil Rights? It’s why corporations in this Country, and
            their obedient handmaidens, the Republican Party, oppose unions, and regulations, at all costs. But, beyond that, the American corporations, snuggling up to the Asian Commies, have got it made! There are, no unions of course. (Not allowed.) Few government safety regulations, no minimum wage, even as their Country is becoming a toxic dump, there are few environmental laws, and, no elections to corrupt. (No elections.) And another real plus, from the T-Party’s viewpoint at least, the Chinese Government is in complete agreement that healthcare for their citizens is a privilege, reserved for those in the government, and the wealthy that can afford it. So, cussing the Liberals for being Communist, or of wanting
            a centrally controlled government. While our own American corporations are profiting handsomely, due to just such a centrally controlled government, and economy, has always came off to me as just a bit disingenuous. I think they secretly wish America was more like the Communist, not less. Less like America used to be, when we had a large Middle Class, and jobs came with healthcare, and a company pension. Now, for millions of Americans, it’s just all service, and counter work. Selling I-Phones, and stocking shelves. Hardly
            worth minimum wage. Something else the GOP has been faithfully aganist from the beginning. But, how long has it been for the GOP, since they supported regular work a day Americans, on anything? Eisenhower? Nixon did think enough about the environment to create the EPA. Well, that GOP is long dead. And the current one knows exactly how to whack the nanny state down to size, grow the economy, and cut the deficits. But their bosses at corporate headquarters, have no intention of allowing anything of the kind. No, they’d much prefer that millions of Americans just do without. What your self reliance really adds up to, is just accepting the lower wages, and being satisfied with whatever the monied aristocracy thinks is fair. Considering they are paying their
            labor in China, two bucks an hour, no benefits. When it comes to Americans, their answer is, beat the Chinaman, and we’ll talk. So these former American Capitalists, continue to build their 2 billion person consumer base, with the help of course, of the Chinese Communist Government, and voters
            like you.

          • montanabill

            Holy, off-the-wall, Batman!

          • charleo1

            The truth is, it isn’t off the wall. And you know it.
            The thing that makes the truth hurt the most, is
            because it is the truth.

      • 788eddie

        Ya know, Bill, I guess we’ll just wait and see as it shakes out. If you’re right and the new system is horrible, it’ll either be modified or eventually die out. But if people find that their rates are indeed cheaper, and the coverage is better, than the word will spread to others.

        Patience, at this point in time, is wise.

  • docb

    Oh, so the $24 Billion has been put back in the economy and the 900,000 JOBS that were lost have been restored THAT THE REPUB BAGGERS LIKE CRUZ and the 144 REPUBS in House DESTROYED for the Economy and the People and the a Nation?…

    I do not think so! The cretins on the REPUBLICAN RIGHT that caused this must be reminded daily….,They are not forgiven and it will NOT be forgotten..Call them daily. 1.866.311.3405 or 1.866. 338.1015!

  • Dominick Vila

    The budgetary and fiscal differences that resulted in a government shutdown and in threats of default were not solved, they were simply postponed. Hopefully, both parties learned from what happened in recent weeks and are now more willing to find middle ground, because otherwise we will be watching a sequel to what just happened in January and February.
    There is absolutely nothing to cheer about out of the mess we just had. It was an embarrassing and damaging episode unworthy of a great nation, and kicking the can down the road is not something to be proud of.

    • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

      So true Dominick. The world has seen how fiscally irresponsible our Country has become since the Tea Party fraction took over the Republican Party. We need a two party system, but it needs to have moderates on both sides of the issues, that way they can discuss, argue and than come to a compromise where neither side feels like they won. That is when the American People win and we show the world how we govern.

      • RobGinChicago

        The Democrats compromised extensively and gave the Reagan, Bush & Bush Administrations pretty much everything they asked for. Their theories of sound economics were thoroughly tested and found wanting. Compromise for the sake of compromise is not a winning solution when one side has already been proven demonstrably WRONG. Obama’s policies have not yet been given a chance at implementation. I, for one, would like to see if they would work.

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

          I agree President Obama’s policies have not been given a chance, and unless we keep control of the Senate and get control of the House (which will be almost impossible) we will never know if his policies would work if they were given the full support of our elected officials. Democrats have to get out and vote in 2014.

          • Independent1

            It really would be interesting to see what the Democrats will end up doing if they can get control of the presidency and both houses for more than 7 months; 7 months is all the total government control the Dems have had in about 18 years; since the Republicans took over much of Congress around 1995. The Dems had control of the house from 2007 to 2009 but not the Senate. They got control of the Senate in January of 2009 and then the Presidency on 1/20/2009 but then lost control of the Senate on 8/15/09 (less than 7 months later) when Ted Kennedy passed away – his passing meant they no longer had filibuster proof control which is when good ole Mitch started that run of more than 415 silent filibusters that kept the Dems from getting virtually anything done.

            They did however succeed in following through on the auto bailout despite GOP opposition, and in going forward with the Stimulus – the two things that kept America from falling into the GOP’s 2nd created world-wide depression. And, they got the work begun on moving Obamacare forward – which they actually got passed without full control of the Senate. They did attain to some successes!!! We need to see more of that!!

  • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

    Maybe now the grownups will reclaim their party back from the rabid, rabble rousing, right, and we will once again see Republicans of the stripe of the Taft back in the game.

    • Independent1

      That surely would be nice to see. Republicans acting like responsible adults instead of Faux News sheep.

  • charleo1

    I’d be the first one to tell you, I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer. So, I have
    a lot of unanswered questions about the T-Party, and the other two Parties as well.
    For example, if the most dangerous, and potentially destructive legislative weapon
    the T-Party is able to get it’s hands on, this statutory authorization by Congress to
    increase the debt limit. Why aren’t there more voices in Congress calling for it’s
    elimination? Why aren’t there any voices in Congress calling for it’s elimination?
    Republican minority leader, McConnell promises it won’t happen again, in a few
    months. Political prognosticators are offering that surely they, meaning the T-
    Party, couldn’t possibly be considering another shutdown, and default, seeing
    as how unpopular this all was for them. Have they even talked to the T-Party?
    Because, that’s not what they are saying. While they are admitting failure. Their
    reason for the failure, by their calculation, was there are still too many RINOs in
    Congress, that bolted before they could really tighten the screws down on
    Obama, and the Democrats. They promise more primary fights, so that doesn’t happen the next time. My question is, if they’ve been forced to put the gun down
    for the time being. Why doesn’t some bright Congress Person, or Senator Person,
    notice, they’ve put the weapon down, but it’s still right there on the table! One
    would think somebody would say, “Gee, wouldn’t it be a good idea if we just got
    rid of the damned gun?” And go back to haggling about the budget, in the budget
    process. And just so that doesn’t break down, let’s forget about using things like
    the sequester. Where if we don’t reach an agreement, each of us takes a whack
    at the other’s constituency. Let’s all sign letters of resignation effective 24 hours
    after the deadline for a budget passes. If no agreement is made, and no budget is passed. We then sign a continuing resolution at current spending levels for 3 months, while the American people finds our replacements. As I said, I’m not the
    brightest bulb on the string. But I have no question as to why that will never happen.

    • Independent1

      Charle, the questions you’re asking would require at least some deree of common sense from our elected legislators. I’m not sure there’s an ounce of common sense mixed in with all 500 plus of them. I believe Obama has pushed for that though – elminating the law that established the debt ceiling back around WWI.

      • charleo1

        Well, thank you. I appreciate that. It doesn’t seem to have registered
        with my Progressive friends very much either. But, I think it’s critical
        from a business standpoint, to rid ourselves of this redundant, and
        quite frankly stupid, Congressional procedure. If we are to retain any
        of our valuable, and hard earned reputation for being a Country that
        is dependably excellent at the business of business. Making money.
        Taking care of money. Especially after our financial industry’s products almost collapsed the entire World’s banking system. It would seem to be obvious we should be doing everything possible
        to rebuild the trust that had to have been badly damaged. This is Government’s recognized role. If the World starts to conclude the U.S. Government has lost it’s ability to regulate our financial system. Then we become Somalia, from a financial standpoint. We become a Nation of lawless Cons, Shysters, and Flim Flam Artists. Who’s word means nothing. And twice now, our Government has acted as if we are considering at least, not paying those who depended on our word. It doesn’t matter it was the T-Party, and they’re nuts. To the
        world, it was us. It’s not usually appropriate or correct to compare our personal business lives, with international finance, and the largest economy in the World. But, in this respect, if you, or I behaved in that way, people would not be interested in doing business with us anymore. And, this is something Congress could
        do for all businesses, here, and abroad. And it wouldn’t cost a dime.

        • neddycat

          I’ve heard lots of calls to get rid of the debt limit from my progressive friends. And in fact, there was a work-around to it for many years, where it was considered that when Congress passed a budget that they also approved the spending to implement that budget. Repubs ditched it when they came back into power. I think they don’t want to get rid of it because it worked in the summer of 2011 – they got significant concessions from Obama. And I think they hope it will work again. Just as Harry Reid won’t get rid of the filibuster because he is thinking that if someday Dems don’t have the Senate it can be used by them. Both need to GO permanently.

          • charleo1

            If you’re hearing from your progressive friends, perhaps then,
            it will become an issue. It ought to be a bipartisan, no brainer.
            Before the 2010 House T-Party, raising the debt ceiling had
            been this wonkie type procedure, where the minority Party
            would make a little sanctimonious speech about how the other guys, the Party in power, were really laying on the pork. Then,after an enjoyable little show, they’d dispense with it. No harm no foul. Well, it’s not hard to see those days are long gone. We heard from Warren Buffet, comparing the failure to raise the ceiling the equivalent of a nuclear bomb, But, at least I didn’t hear any politician call for it’s elimination. But the fallout of a technical default would be so severe, there would never be a case where it’s use would be justified. Today the GOP acts more like an insurgency, than the other half of a two party political system. Using the possibility of default as a
            resistance group would deploy an IED. And while protecting
            the minority’s position in a two party system insures both
            parties have a stake in the outcome. The filibuster’s use by
            minority leader McConnell, abridged the fundamental tenet
            of democracy, to allow the majority to govern. While attempting to absolve the minority party of any responsibility
            for the broader, or greater good of the Country itself.

          • neddycat

            Yes, a lot of the ploys the Republicans are using are to allow the minority to rule – these are very strange times! I’m very afraid that the debt ceiling has been pushed back only a few months. These new Republicans are mind-bogglingly ignorant; I think they act like a bunch of children who believe they are being lied to by the establishment. It frightened me how close we got to it this time, and I am truly afraid that unless restrained (and the Republican party as a whole seems unwilling to take that step) that they will broach the debt ceiling. It would be fine if only THEY paid the consequences, but it would be the whole country, the whole world. Since I happen to live in TX I doubt my senators and congresspeople will be receptive to a call to abolish the debt ceiling, except for Sheila Jackson-Lee.

          • charleo1

            Well, that’s right. Only until the middle of February. Just last
            month I was reading a poll that claimed only 1 in 5 Americans
            supported raising the debt ceiling. That’s not 1 in 5 Republicans, or 1 in 5 Tea Party supporters, but 1 in 5 Americans. Which was truly scary to contemplate, since we dealt with this issue only about a year, and a half ago.
            So it being the case, many people are not understanding
            what it is that’s being discussed, or the consequences of a true default, for the economy going forward, for who knows how long? Possibly years. In my mind, having been a licensed financial planner, not an expert in international finance by any means. But, with a fair grasp of how things work, I see this issue as being potentially the one that has the best chance of doing real harm to the Country. Mainly for the fact, that once it’s done, we aren’t going to be able to just fix it, or take it back. As it undermines the credibility of our currency, because it undermines the financial credibility of the U.S. Government itself.

          • neddycat

            I don’t think people understand what the debt ceiling is. And of course, the Republicans took control of the talking points, pretending that it was about spending MORE money. Well, I suppose it is in the strict sense, but since it is about paying the bills we have already incurred it is hardly something we can avoid – like paying your Visa bill at the end of the month. Too often the Democrats are simply begging the Rs not to do the nuclear option, while not explaining what a particular thing is. The media isn’t helpful there, either – they are just ratings hounds. And I think too many people would rather just watch Dancing with the Stars, anyway.

          • charleo1

            You hit the nail on the head, about the press. And we really
            have to hand it to Republicans. They know how to spread
            it on. Obama wants a favor! He’s maxed out his credit
            card, and wants a new one! One idiot Congressman from
            FL. said he thought the U.S. Government defaulting on the
            debt would be a good thing, and stabilize the markets.

          • 4sanity4all

            You have explained it correctly, my friend. I wish the media would throw it into many broadcasts, until almost everyone has heard it. There is no basic understanding of what these terms really mean, among most Americans, and sadly, among many elected officials. There should be a mandatory workshop about the budget for all freshman senators and representatives. So that idiots like the one from Florida do not say that a U.S. default would be a good do-over.