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Saturday, September 24, 2016

Barack Obama has disappointed liberals on everything from civil liberties to health care to financial reform since taking office in 2009, and nowhere has he let his base down more than on climate change. The American Clean Energy and Security Act, a cap-and-trade bill that would have reduced carbon emissions by roughly the amount needed to avert catastrophe, passed the House in 2009 but was dead on arrival in the Senate.

And since the Tea Party wave of 2010, the White House has made no effort to bring another comprehensive bill to deal with the mounting problem before Congress.

So when discussing the Keystone XL pipeline in a new interview with Rolling Stone, the president tries to get at the obstacles (mostly a weak economy) that have made progress on the environment so difficult:

The reason that Keystone got so much attention is not because that particular pipeline is a make-or-break issue for climate change, but because those who have looked at the science of climate change are scared and concerned about a general lack of sufficient movement to deal with the problem. Frankly, I’m deeply concerned that internationally, we have not made as much progress as we need to make. Within the constraints of this Congress, we’ve tried to do a whole range of things, administratively, that are making a difference – doubling fuel-efficiency standards on cars is going to take a whole lot of carbon out of our atmosphere. We’re going to continue to push on energy efficiency, and renewable energy standards, and the promotion of green energy. But there is no doubt that we have a lot more work to do.

Part of the challenge over these past three years has been that people’s number-one priority is finding a job and paying the mortgage and dealing with high gas prices. In that environment, it’s been easy for the other side to pour millions of dollars into a campaign to debunk climate-change science. I suspect that over the next six months, this is going to be a debate that will become part of the campaign, and I will be very clear in voicing my belief that we’re going to have to take further steps to deal with climate change in a serious way. That there’s a way to do it that is entirely compatible with strong economic growth and job creation – that taking steps, for example, to retrofit buildings all across America with existing technologies will reduce our power usage by 15 or 20 percent. That’s an achievable goal, and we should be getting started now.

As much as small steps like postponing (and perhaps even cancelling) the Keystone pipeline make a difference, the president must refocus the debate on global warming in this campaign — and a second term — to be regarded as anything other than a failure on environmental issues.

In this interview we get a hint of how he might do that: by drawing attention to the villains (mostly big oil and other corporate interests) blocking progress.

But first he needs the economy to recover.

  • Jerpell

    I’m one of those people who collected unemployment for 3 years, Now I’m allowed to abuse the welfare system along with food stamps and I also get my heating oil and cell phone fully subsidized. Your darn right I’m voting for Obama, I don’t want to be forced to look for a job. Now I’m fully and completely dependent on the Government, He bought my vote, I like my free goody bag of handouts!

    • Hope you also get free cable and a free “govmint” big screen tv so you can get all the latest fair and balanced updates on Fox news

      • Jerpell

        Oh no….I watch CNN the most fair and balanced not to mention racist news program out there…I think I’m the only one watching with there ratings lower than dirt….Get on the side of right you lefty nut job!

        • You have no clue as to my opinions, beliefs, or political orientation. I could be a clueless, rightwing, non-thinking idiot marching in lock-step to Koch brothers and Rove propaganda right over the cliff, for all you know. In fact, I have voted Republican for over 60 years, and I am proud to see that doing so has finally dragged the country to the brink of destruction and that I will be a serf and a slave to big money.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Bwwwaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahah…. again!

    • Is that all you can say, the same stupid answer. If it was you unemployed, your opinion would be different. I was unemployed for 2 years, because our jobs were sent to India. And, because I was over the age of 45 I got passed up for many jobs I was qualified for. I had to take two steps back, take a pay cut, and now I’m back to where I was in 1992. I can’t buy a car, I can’t buy a house, I can’t go back to school, because I only qualified for $100.00 a month for Pell, and at the age of 56, I am not taking out student loans that would strap me for the rest of my life!!!!! I can tell you don’t have a christian bone in your body with the attitude you have about the problems that face many of you fellow Americans, that’s the Republican attitude now and Mr. Lincoln would be in total shock to see his party now, the party of the rich and uncaring!!!!!!!

      • Jerpell

        Sir…You don’t have a clue!

        • oldtack

          JERKpell my “friend”. You don’t have a clue about anything. I woory about you -honestly. If I knew where you were floating I would try to get some oxygan to you to clear your brain -if you’re not brain dead already.

          • Jerpell

            Why do Liberals hate so much and call people names…
            Hmmm….Must be that hope and change thing going on!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Bwaaaahahahahahahahahahah!

          • probably learned it from their role-models: righty nut jobs–obviously righty nut jobs are unable to rationally discuss any issue–they just dig up dirt (read: make up dirt) and spend billions to spread it around

      • majong13

        Debbie, I am currently in your shoes. I was in a lay off last year at the age of 59. You know, it is not even worth responding to Jerpell and Obozo. They never will get it. Just picture them sitting at the table in the kitchen area of their trailer, with their laptops amid their breakfast of 4 eggs, cheesy grits(a Romney gaff) and their
        4 pounds of ham. Honestly, I don’t even know why they look at this website. You would think they are missing Fox news!

      • majong13

        Debbie, I am currently in your shoes. I was in a lay off last year at the age of 59. You know, it is not even worth responding to Jerpell and Obozo. They never will get it. Just picture them sitting at the table in the kitchen area of their trailer, with their laptops amid their breakfast of 4 eggs, cheesy grits(a Romney gaff) and their
        4 pounds of ham. Honestly, I don’t even know why they look at this website. You would think they are missing Fox news!

      • ObozoMustGo

        Debbie, while I am sorry for your difficult times, I still fail to see why I or any other American owes you anything. Why do I owe you a car? Why do I owe you rent or food or healthcare? Why do I owe you education in adulthood? What makes you entitled to my labor or that of anyone else?

        The best way for you to find better employment, Debbie, is to have more employers competing for employees. It’s really that simple. But we cant have more employers with high taxes that punish success and excessive regulations that discourage risk taking by entrepreneurs or expansion by other companies. It’s just not going to happen and it does not work any other way.

        I wish I could help you, Debbie. I really do. I want you to be more successful. I want ALL Americans to be more financially successful IF they want to be. But increased government control and redistribution of wealth for free handouts is NOT the way to accomplish that. The more we subsidize poverty and bad behavior, the more of each we get.

        Please have a nice and pleasant day, Debbie!

        • So…I suppose that redistribution of wealth from the poor and middle class to the rich is fine, right Obozo?

          You do realize it’s the Republican policies (including those leading to the recession) that caused massive job losses, right? And that in the first few months of Obama’s presidency, and as a result of prior policies, the economy kept losing hundreds of thousands of jobs per month until the stimulus kicked in.

          Once Obama’s policies kicked in, the economy pulled out of a recession, and over 3 million new jobs have been created. If we’d followed your advice (and those like you who think that a recession is a time to tighten our fiscal belts), we’d have kept losing jobs (like in Europe) and stayed in recession.

          Thank God for Obama and his intelligence.

          I agree – you, Obozo, must go…

          Have a pleasant and nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            And pink elephants will fly over your house in the next 15 minutes!

            Look at the BLS statistics. How many total jobs were there when Obozo took office? How many total jobs are there today? You will find that the number has SHRUNK by a net of about 11 million jobs. How can you say that Obozo has “created” anything when the total number of jobs available is smaller?

            You leftist nutjobs are blinded by your love for your messiah, Obozo. You’d vote for him if they had video of him committing rape, and you know it. You cant help it. You are one of the useful idiots locked into the cult of personality that Obozo has become. Too bad.

            Have a nice day!

          • djras1

            YOU need to check BLS statistics. Current labor force 142,034,000 – Feb 2009 141,660,000. It is not much growth, but it IS growth.
            If reducing taxes increases employment then why where jobs disappearing at 500,000 per month in Dec 2008? How many jobs did Romney’s $20M+ INCOME CREATE last year? What restrictions are you talking about that LIMIT job growth? Minimum wage, financial reporting laws? what???

        • Marjani

          Government control happens because people don’t treat one another right and the churches have fallen down on their duty to humanity. Nobody owes anyone anything and nobody gets anything for free, either. Whatever someone on welfare or assistance has, they either paid into it or someone paid into it for them.

          America has never “given” anyone anything and nothing here is free, not even for poor people — most of whom are seniors, children, the disabled, the mentally unstable, and the terminally or chronically ill. There aren’t enough “lazy” people on welfare to make a dent in the system and no one has a thing in this life or this nation that wasn’t already paid for, one way or another.

        • mr. OMG, i would pray that the shoe will not go on your other foot; I would pray that you not be stricken with a debilitating accident or illness where your non-Obamacare insurance plan exceeds its maximum lifetime benefit and you have to pay umpteen thousands from your own pocket; that Scrooges words “are there no prisons…are there no workhouses” never come to haunt you.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Nor do I wish any bad for you or anyone else, Charlie. I only want the best for every single American there is.

            Have a nice day!

        • You may be right: We have subsidized the rich and their bad behavior for 30 years, and we have gotten more bad behavior from them, but not more jobs from the so-called “job-creators.” Maybe we should re-evaluate what we are doing

          • ObozoMustGo

            Roger… you’re blind with jealousy and envy. How many jobs have you gotten from a poor guy? Answer —–> NONE! Duhh, you moron. You consumed by your feelings of jealousy and envy and are beyond help.

            Have a nice day!

          • You are even more clueless than Jerpell. You think you are the next Freud or Jung, that you can psychoanalyze by remote control? You remind me of the so-called preachers who think they can cure by laying on of the hands. In fact, why don’t you stick your hand in the back of your tv and see if you can cure me.

          • ObozoMustGo

            I am sorry Roger, there is NO cure for stupidity! 🙁

            Have a nice day!

          • I am going to have a nice day, thank you. My welfare check just came and I am going out to buy myself a Mercedes on your dime. Just doing my part to keep the economy moving.

          • ObozoMustGo

            touche’! That’s actually a great comeback, Roger. 🙂 Read my last response on climate stuff. We can save our fun debates and insults for another day. I gotta run!

            Have a nice day!

          • WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME FACTS. Name calling just doesn’t get it done. If you are going to successfully REFUTE someones statement, you need facts not dirty names.

        • perplejado

          You are forgetting that the first law of economics is demand. in other words, if there is no market for the goods produced, there will be no employment for workers. cutting taxes does not automatically create a market for goods. if that were the case, then Ireland and Portugal would be leading economies in the world. they are not, because as their economies are being stripped of all government involvement, their markets are contracting. Cutting taxes, regulations, and removing government from the economy does not create supply and demand. Only the ignorant believe such theories.

          • ObozoMustGo

            perple.. you sound like a fool. There is not really a “first law of economics”. Look it up and you will find that there are varying opinions of what the “first law” is. Probably the best I have read is this: “The first law of economics is that for every economist, there is an equal and opposite economist”. Others feel that the real first law of economics is “There is no such thing as a free lunch”. I tend to agree with that statement as the 1st law of economics.

            Supposing there was a “first law” that resembled what you think and wrote above, it most certainly is NOT solely “demand”. “Supply and Demand” go hand in hand, you dope!

            Third, what kind of knucklehead actually believes that government involvement in directing and controling economic output actually increases economic output? Leftist nutjobs think like that! Government creates NOTHING. They can only tax and take resources from the private sector. They are therefore a NET DRAIN on economic activity. This is not argument for no government as I am sure you leftist nutjobs like to infer, but it is simply a reminder of simple math and economics. Government creates nothing and is a net drain on an economy and does not create “supply and demand”. Demand, at it’s most basic level, is created by an individual’s need to survive. ie. “I must eat in order to stay alive, therefore I have demand for food”. Government has nothing to do with that. Nothing!

            You cite Ireland and Portugal… why not cite all the PIIGS in Europe? You know why. Because they are all failing under the weight of government debt generated over decades of a growing welfare states. THAT is why they are failing, not because they dont have enough government. They have more than they can afford, clearly. That’s why they are in debt. Get a clue, you dope!

            Have a nice day!

          • ‘ddd

        • YOU OWE AMERICA, American citizens have died to enable you and people who think like you to sit at these computers and speak your minds, you owe them. I myself, fought in two of America’s Wars, I was fortunate enough to survive them. You owe me. So the least you can do is lend a helping hand to the rest of Americas Children. You will notice I post under my REAL NAME, unlike you I have nothing to hide.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Thank you for your service, Charlie! We all owe you a debt of gratitude. No one argues that. No one I know argues against the fact that Defense IS the primary purpose of the Federal Government. You served in that capacity and deserve just compensation for your services which are duly paid for by my tax dollars and I am proud to pay those taxes.

            But I dont OWE anyone any free lunch! I work for my own benefit and that of my family. That also means I work for my own charitable interests, as well. I have very strong compassion for people like Debbie. There are unfortunately too many of them in her situation due to a lack of employers demanding their work. I actually work in a field where I help people like that. I wish I could help Debbie and I expressed that in my reply to her.

            Because I have compassion, though, does not mean that I discard my ability to THINK about situations and problems that aflict people. The problem with you leftist nutjobs is that you discard your heads at the expense of your hearts. You feel compassion and you stop thinking rationally. Instead, you seek to change the way the world works in order to match your feelings. This is why we disagree so stingently. You guys “feel” and we conservatives “think”.

            Have a nice day!

      • ObozoMustGo

        Debbie, while I am sorry for your difficult times, I still fail to see why I or any other American owes you anything. Why do I owe you a car? Why do I owe you rent or food or healthcare? Why do I owe you education in adulthood? What makes you entitled to my labor or that of anyone else?

        The best way for you to find better employment, Debbie, is to have more employers competing for employees. It’s really that simple. But we cant have more employers with high taxes that punish success and excessive regulations that discourage risk taking by entrepreneurs or expansion by other companies. It’s just not going to happen and it does not work any other way.

        I wish I could help you, Debbie. I really do. I want you to be more successful. I want ALL Americans to be more financially successful IF they want to be. But increased government control and redistribution of wealth for free handouts is NOT the way to accomplish that. The more we subsidize poverty and bad behavior, the more of each we get.

        Please have a nice and pleasant day, Debbie!

    • Marjani

      Well, you need to point to yourself as a standout in the crowd, because you’d be the only one that happened to in the history of this country.

      No one is else is as privileged as you. Do you have to be white to get those kinds of gov’t benefits, or is that some kind of government secret for white folks’ only?

      I never heard of it and I know I’m older than you.

  • ObozoMustGo

    The so-called “climate deniers” are winning because the rest of us have figured out that the whole darned thing is a freakin hoax being perpetrated by leftists to control private property and to redistribute wealth. That’s all it is. Dont believe me? Lets run some numbers and do a little lesson here.

    1) What causes Global Warming? ——> Greenhouse gases (GHG)
    2) What are Greenhouse gases? ——–> Water vapour, carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide, and ozone. Water is the vast majority of these
    3) How is CO2 measured in the atmosphere? ——-> It’s measured in parts per million (PPM)
    4) How much CO2 was there pre-industrial age? —> 280 PPM
    5) How much CO2 is there today?—> 390 PPM
    6) The difference is what? —-> 110 PPM

    Now, assuming that all 110 Parts Per Million were man made (which they are not), we are talking about the effect being:

    0.00011 or ELEVEN ONE HUNDREDTHS OF ONE PERCENT

    Did you read that correctly? That’s right. The whole argument is over ELEVEN ONE HUNDREDTHS OF ONE PERCENT of the atmosphere. It is incomprehensible that the most infinitecimal change could have any real affect. This is especially true when we consider the FACT that the earth’s climate has NEVER been static either before mankind or after mankind showed up. And CO2 levels have NEVER been static. The earth is constantly changing, sometimes quickly and sometimes slowly, but it is ALWAYS changing.

    People, we simply do not have the effect on the climate that the hoaxters say we do. It just strains believability. It really does.

    “Global warming” used to be the mantra. Now it’s “climate change”. Why did they change it? Because guys like me were doing the math and saying “you’re crazy”. They still are crazy. You must realize that Global Warming/Climate Change has become a HUGE business financed by the taxpayers and pushed by the America hating socialists at the U.N.

    Sorry to burst any of your bubbles. I know some of you still adhere the Global Warming thing because it has become a very strong religion to you. I know that will never change. But some of you may be open minded enough to find that this exercise has enlightened you a bit and hopefully will question why some are so hell bent on forcing Americans into energy policies and taxation measures that do nothing but raise our costs and decrease our efficiency. And infringe upon our freedoms and liberty.

    Have a nice day!

    • joyscarbo

      You seem to think global warming is an American idea that liberals have come up with.

      So, BOZO…what you’re saying is that scientific experts the world over, who have carefully studied the changes in our earth’s climate and atmosphere over multiple decades are delluded?! The world’s greatest scientists are making this all up to make life harder for conservative, right-wingnuts and republicans??!! Wow…stunning paranoia…and dellusional too.

      And what are your scientific credentials. Have you studied any science? Geology? Physics? Meteorology? Paleoclimatology? Agronomy? From your many ignorant posts, I can’t imagined you’ve studied much more than what conservative, republican jackholes are telling you.

      The GLOBAL SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY has agreed: Global Warming…or Climate Change…is REAL. The degree to which we will ultimately suffer those affects…well, it’s a warning. We need to heed the warnings and do what we can to take care of the only planet we live on.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Hi Joy! I have a couple of years of geology at Virginia Tech University, but it doesnt take any degree except to know how to do simple math. I will say that the geologic events we learned about like the great ice age are discussed in terms of millions of years. We have not been measuring temperatures globally or even reliably for more than 100 – 150 years, maybe, and that’s being generous.

        You are one of those people who buy into the global warming thing as a religion. Even the simple math does not shake your faith in the story. Too bad!

        You Global Warming faithful all claim that EVERYONE AGREES, but that’s a flat out lie, and you know it. There are thousands of scientists that doubt or disagree with the premise that man causes global warming.

        I will say that if anything causes global warming, it’s all you leftist nutjobs generating hot air with all of your bullsheet you keep tyring to sell us.

        THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MANMADE GLOBAL WARMING! DOES NOT EXIST!

        Have a nice day!

    • I don’t know much about the science involved in calculating mans effect on the atmosphere, but I do know machinery. In a machine if you have one part even slightly larger than it is supposed to be. The results can be catastrophic. I suspect that it would be the same for any system whose operation depends on multiple parts, they must ALL be as designed for proper operation of the system.

  • Marjani

    Back to the conversation at hand: How does “he” get the economy to recover when we didn’t show up at the mid-terms in 2010 to get the people in Congress that he needed to back him up?

    So few people showed up at mid-term elections (which is when we hire and fire the majority of Congress) that he got stuck with obstructionists in the form of tea partiers for the next two years and they kept him from making barely a crease, let alone a dent, in the economy. All he can do is give in to them because they’re holding the majority cards. Nancy Pelosi even lost her seat in the House because of the lack of turnout in 2010.

    The duty in Washington is two-fold for Americans. Get the right man in office, then the right Congress to back him.

    If he is re-elected in 2012 and then we can get off our butts and get those teapublicans out of Congress in 2014, he may actually be able to do something GREAT and knock the ball out of the park his LAST two years as President. He can only go as far as Congress lets him, that is who he answers to.

    We let him down in 2010, let’s not do it again in 2014. Mid-terms matter, too.

  • Let me see if I’ve got this right, Mr. OMG: according to other sources, the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and 1% other gases, including CO2. 1)You state that since CO2 is such a minuscule portion of the atmosphere, that fact that it has increased from 280ppm pre-industrial to 390ppm today, (a 40% increase) is irrelevant. 2) you believe that the preponderance of scientists and other governments all over the world who embrace the theory of climate change are all socialists and just hate the USA. Have I summarized your position correctly? If so, I am very skeptical of it.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Hey Chuck! You’re close. The fact that claiming “CO2 increases 40%” is a scare tactic to make it seem much larger than it really is. Look it up.

      You leftist clowns like arguing over ELEVEN ONE HUNDREDTHS OF ONE PERCENT and think this is reason enough to completely change our way of life.

      YOU HAVE GONE MAD IF YOU BELIEVE THE BULLSHEET! Think critically, my boy. Think critically.

      Have a nice day!

      • let me get this straight: the fact that the coldest places on earth, the polar icecaps, are melting should not be considered when deciding whether the earth is warming or not? We should look at unreliable statistics instead of facts from which to draw conclusions. Wingnut thinking if I ever saw it.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Roger my boy… Google Greenhouse Gases and read the Wikipedia explanation. They are squarely in the global warming camp so I’m not quoting some skeptics numbers. The amount of carbon in the atmosphere is expressed in parts per million. The number of parts per million is 394 PPM to be exact according to Wiki. The preindustrial number is 280 PPM. I am NOT making his up.

          We are arguing over just 11 1/100 of a percent, or ELEVEN THEN THOUSANDTHS!

          DONT YOU GET IT? None of you guys ever really did the math, I’ll bet. You never do. You just go along with the hype.

          And the polar ice caps are NOT melting. They are in fact growing. They have never been static and they never will be static. Whether man or not is here on earth.

          Think about it. Really think about it. We were not here during the great ice age. Why did the ice melt then? Were there alien SUVs driving all over the place?

          The issue is NOT whether or not we have climate change. The earth has NEVER been static. The issue is whether or not man is to blame. And when you look at the numbers objectively speaking, the whole thing does not pass the common sense test. It just does not.

          Sorry to burst your global warming religion bubble, dude, but it’s just simply NOT TRUE.

          Have a nice day!

          • no, I know that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. So I try to look at objective facts. It seems that there is evidence that the polar ice caps are melting. If that is so, then that is evidence enough of global warming/climate change. That would be a fact. You might not like it, and you may disagree whether it is manmade or not, but a fact is a fact. If they are melting, change is occurring.

            Yes, it may have occurred in the past; of course, change is everpresent. and yes, it may, or may not be, caused by, or correlated with, human activity. That should be the debate. Not that change is not occurring because I don’t believe in it, or because someone came up with some numbers I disagree with, or maybe they made them up, in my opinion.

            Stick with the facts.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Like I said, Roger, look up the numbers yourself. Do the math yourself. Dont believe the media or Al Gore’s phony movie that the government of England wont even let them show kids in schools because of the lies and inaccuracies. Do a little looking into the other side like I did and you will open your eyes to the truth.

            And you are correct, no one really denies if there is climate change. It’s always changing. The issue is whether or not it’s caused by man. And at such miniscule numbers in the actual changes of CO2 in the atmosphere, it is HIGHLY suspect that we need to be doing any panic over the issue, much less taxing us more and increasing the cost of our energy for the purpose of funding yet more political misuse of private earnings.

            Good day!

      • joyscarbo

        Hey, Bozo…So while I do have a science-based college degree, I’m nowhere near a scientific expert on the matter. So I consulted someone who could help. My older brother is has a phd in chemical engineering and is a senior engineer with Martin Lockheed for more than 25 years. He heads up the program that propells all the US weather satellites into space. He also was involved with every launch of the space shuttle missions and titan missle programs as well. He’s not a “leftist,” and he’s not a “wingnut” either. He’s a major nerd who knows science inside and out.
        When I asked him what he thought of global warming/climate change and whether it is a real phenomenon and is this something that could endanger our environment? He said it absolutely is true and based on good scientific research with hard scientific facts to back it up. My brother went on to say that it is disappointing that scientifically proven evidence and facts become politicized. He said that politicians may be powerful but they don’t have the power to deny what has clearly been proven. He also said that it’s incredibly stupid for political parties to actually “take sides,” on this issue as if it’s a matter of mere opinion. When the scientific community advices that these changes are warning signs, our leaders should respond by implementing interventions that could help. I asked him about those in the scientific community who say it’s all junk science and fake? He told me to see where these scientific researchers are getting their money for their research. If there are large companies invovled- especially the petroleum industry- they are being paid excessive amounts of money to say whatever benefits who is paying them.
        He was a wealth of information!

        • ObozoMustGo

          Hey Joy…. Your brother has a really cool job! NICE! In my work, I deal with many engineers like him. Awesome stuff they do.

          At any rate, your brother is absoltutely right on with his assessment that the issue should not be politicized. I agree. But unfortunately, that horse has left the barn long ago. Your assessment that only companies are the ones to influence science is a joke, really. No insult intended, Joy, but Governments have FAR GREATER resources than companies and they also have FAR GREATER influence over the funding of academic reasearch than any company could ever have. So when you have professors who realize they can keep getting government funding because politicians are looking for more ways to tax people, those professors have incentives to perform junk science in order to perpetuate their funding which further gives politicians more reason to try to tax and spend more. It is a viscious cycle.

          That being said, I dont say the climate is not changing. It always has and it always will, with or without mankind. The real issue, when you break it down, is over whether or not man has any influence, and if so, how much. And when you consider that we are talking about a change of ELEVEN TEN THOUSANDTHS, or ELEVEN ONE HUNDREDTHS OF ONE PERCENT, it just does not hold any credibility or even enough to say that we should change our way of life and pay more taxes because of such an infinitecimally small change. That’s all I’m saying. I dont think mankind can influence/control the weather any more than we can control the sun.

          Have a nice day!

  • Let me see if I’ve got this right, Mr. OMG: according to other sources, the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and 1% other gases, including CO2. 1)You state that since CO2 is such a minuscule portion of the atmosphere, that fact that it has increased from 280ppm pre-industrial to 390ppm today, (a 40% increase) is irrelevant. 2) you believe that the preponderance of scientists and other governments all over the world who embrace the theory of climate change are all socialists and just hate the USA. Have I summarized your position correctly? If so, I am very skeptical of it.

  • Let me see if I’ve got this right, Mr. OMG: according to other sources, the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and 1% other gases, including CO2. 1)You state that since CO2 is such a minuscule portion of the atmosphere, that fact that it has increased from 280ppm pre-industrial to 390ppm today, (a 40% increase) is irrelevant. 2) you believe that the preponderance of scientists and other governments all over the world who embrace the theory of climate change are all socialists and just hate the USA. Have I summarized your position correctly? If so, I am very skeptical of it.

  • howa4x

    The republicans , Fox and the oil barrons have poured millions into debunking climate change. They are putting profits ahead of people lives which is not unusual. If Obama wants to rally the base he has to sound the alarm bell, and fight this congress. The democrates in congress have to stop being afraid of the tea party and show America what nut bags they are. Go to places that had more tornados than ever before and tell these knuckhead people that climate change will bring more destruction next year and the one after that. Then they will understand it. The Republican rank and file have been drugged by Fox and friends and we have to wake them up. It’s like you have to bang them on the head so they get it. We are in a fight for the lives of our children. Are they going to drink clean water, breath air not filled with toxins, play in dirt that’s not contaminated? This is what family values is all about and the time to change the conversation is now.

  • I think Mr. Taylor had severe unattainable goals in mind when Barack Obama took office. I applaud all President Obama did get done considering the conspiracy within the Republican party to not work with him on anything. I also think that most of his base understands how crippling this conspiracy has been for not just Pres. Obama but for the nation. We are all suffering so they can get their way. We need to replace as many of these teapotters as possible so we can get a Congress who has the Republics best interests at heart.

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • wheatfire15

    As all the world is a weapon, has it occurred to anyone in da US that if they continue to ignore scientific fact regarding climate change and continue their general disrespect for each other and their obvious disregard of the rest world, countries that have been around 1800 years longer than da US and are intent for their cultures to continue for another several millennium, might get together, knowing that talk doesn’t work with your type, and attempt to violently stop the stupidity…you know..invade. Of course it’s absurd…but if Indonesia sent over a million men every half hour, in 7 days you would have 203 million followers of Islam (not the total population of the country) from sea to shining sea…Now, who knows where Indonesia is?

  • You have to have money to make money or make the economey grow. When funds are stopped everything else stopped also.

  • baud

    The right wing nuts that don’t believe in global warming don’t believe in science in any way. In the fifties they were the flat Earther types, but in the late sixties when pictures of the Earth from space proved it was round. They said in stunned disbelief that they were “Quite shocked”. What Maroons they are.

  • ObozoMustGo

    More proof that global warming is a hoax from one of the primary inventors of global warming.

    Check out the MSNBC article titled “‘Gaia’ scientist James Lovelock: I was ‘alarmist’ about climate change”.

    Here is a small excerpt of the article:
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    By Ian Johnston, msnbc
    James Lovelock, the maverick scientist who became a guru to the environmental movement with his “Gaia” theory of the Earth as a single organism, has admitted to being “alarmist” about climate change and says other environmental commentators, such as Al Gore, were too.

    Lovelock, 92, is writing a new book in which he will say climate change is still happening, but not as quickly as he once feared.

    He previously painted some of the direst visions of the effects of climate change. In 2006, in an article in the U.K.’s Independent newspaper, he wrote that “before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.”

    However, the professor admitted in a telephone interview with msnbc that he now thinks he had been “extrapolating too far.”

    The new book, due to be published next year, will be the third in a trilogy, following his earlier works, “Revenge of Gaia: Why the Earth Is Fighting Back – and How We Can Still Save Humanity,” and “The Vanishing Face of Gaia: A Final Warning: Enjoy It While You Can.”
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    There is NO SUCH THING as manmade global warming, guys. No such thing. It’s all been a hoax, people. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

    Have a nice day!

  • This may sound crazy but; Cover the Mojave Desert with solar panels. The amount of power we could make from the sun would be astronomical. Plus it would create thousands of jobs and most of all we’d start not being so dependent on foreign oil. I’m sure somebody has brought up this idea before now. I’m not that bright. It would be pushing us in a positive direction in becoming self suffcient in producing our own power without disturbing anything environmental ( like fracking; who; how did that get as fsr as it did putting poison in the ground and poluting all that water. whoever was responsible should be shot!) Give this idea a good thinking over before you shoot it down like all other GOOD IDEAS the President has tried to do over the last 3 plus years. It’s putting us in a positive direction . My name is Lance Ullger. I live at 34 Pirates Cove, Massapequa,New York 11758