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Sunday, March 24, 2019

It is time for the country to heal, time for us come together.

Or so people have been telling me since last week when democracy laid the biggest egg in American history. Well, here is my response: I have no interest in seeing this country heal. And I refuse to come together.

Understand: If this were just about politics, I’d never say something like that. No, I’d do what you’re supposed to when the candidate you favored is defeated. Suck it up.

But my anger is not about any given policy of the new president. No, it is about him, about the election of a fundamentally unsound, unserious and unfit man, a misogynist who brags about sexual assault, a bigot cheered to victory by the Ku Klux Klan. I have no idea how to “heal” woman hating and no desire to “come together” with the Klan.

I am similarly impatient with those who say we must give the new president a chance to lead and hope for his success.

Is that what Republicans did for Barack Obama when they gathered on the night of his inauguration and plotted a conspiracy of obstructionism to cripple his presidency? Is it what Donald Trump did when he spent years questioning the veracity of an ordinary birth certificate?

More to the point, the call to let Trump lead and hope for his success fails to address obvious questions: Where is he leading us? How are we defining success? Should we applaud even if he “leads” us into another unnecessary Middle East conflagration? Are we expected to be happy if his “success” comes in criminalizing abortion?

Frankly, I won’t cheer him even if he is not a disaster. In the unlikely event the man who considers global warming a Chinese hoax took action to stem that threat, I’d be happy, yes. On the improbable chance the man who swore to repeal the Affordable Care Act crafted something better, I would be glad, sure.

But at the end of the day, the man who did those things would still be a misogynist and a bigot.

Forgive me — or don’t; I really don’t care — if that remains a deal breaker for me. I refuse to participate in this process of organized amnesia, to cooperate in normalizing a man who stands for everything America should not.

So what now? Well, now those of us who feel the same way must make it a priority to get off our assets and vote in 2018. And in the meantime, resist.

Sunday evening on HBO’s “Last Week Tonight,” John Oliver offered a list of organizations that defend the causes and peoples that will be most threatened in the coming reich and suggested you volunteer them your time and money. I think that’s a great idea, so I pass his list on to you:

Planned Parenthood (plannedparenthood.org); The Center For Reproductive Rights (reproductiverights.org); the Natural Resources Defense Council (nrdc.org); the International Refugee Assistance Project (refugeerights.org), the NAACP Legal Defense Fund (naacpldf.org); the Trevor Project for LGBTQ youth (thetrevorproject.org) and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (maldef.org). I’d also add The Southern Poverty Law Center (splcenter.org) and the American Civil Liberties Union (aclu.org).

It’s time the majority that believes in a progressive, inclusive and compassionate America did more than just tweet about it. Nothing wrong with tweeting, but forces of exclusion, hatred and rage have overtaken the highest office in the land, so it’s also time for some old school activism. Time to march. Time to assail lawmakers. Time to boycott. Time to stand and be counted. Enough is enough.

Let’s take our country back.

Leonard Pitts is a columnist for The Miami Herald, 1 Herald Plaza, Miami, Fla., 33132. Readers may contact him via e-mail at lpitts@miamiherald.com.

IMAGE: People gather to protest against Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump on the sidewalk, outside the grand opening of his new Trump International Hotel in Washington, U.S. October 26, 2016. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

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67 responses to “At The End Of The Day, Trump’s Still A Bigot”

  1. Godzilla says:

    Nothing new here folks, just another whiney ass liberal crying because he didn’t get his way. Mr. Pitts, grab a safe space, play with some Play-Doh and get over it. The Liberal Progressive agenda has been rejected. That’s because it’s a failure and it sucks. Here, a little gift to mend those wounds you imagine to have:

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pity+party&view=detailv2&&id=67708CC1CEA0775C1FE6CCE407EB1510AE968B49&selectedIndex=3&ccid=mBu7YcXw&simid=608015358568498567&thid=OIP.M981bbb61c5f064acb49049b2beda1307o0&ajaxhist=0

    • Thoughtopsy says:

      The funniest thing will be watching you realise what you voted for as he:
      – Doesn’t build a wall
      – Doesn’t deport all immigrants
      – Doesn’t go after “crooked Hillary”…
      – And fills the Swamp that is Washington so he and his cronies can feed on it.

      He’s already doing it.
      His children (arguably) run his business, and now they are also in his Administration team. He’s merging his elitist business activities with the Presidency, and putting all the Washington lobbyists and political bottom-feeders in charge. Except, of course, where he appointed a woman-abusing, racist KKK Supporter as his chief strategist.

      The hilarity is only beginning.
      And we’re going to be here every step of the way as he reneges on everything he promised you, and sinks his snout into the Washington trough to suck up every bit of money, power and celebrity he can, and trashes the country in the process.

      Because we could see what he was BEFORE you numbnuts voted him in.
      As you slowly work out how bad he really is, we’re going to point… and laugh… and ask you how your wall is going…. and ensure you realise that you are exactly what we said you are.

      Stupid.

    • Otto, reflects your thoughts, (see above)—just that he’s more crude than you; but still, he has a binary one-track mind like yours.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      So if you don’t like safe spaces it’s fine to refer to you as a neo-Nazi instead of alt-right.

    • Godzilla, the talk by Abdu’l Baha back in 1912 in Maine where he describes a fundamental difference between human qualities and that of animals had you, Otto, and other materialists in mind. You’re like a buffalo just living to eat, sleep, and propagate. Sensible thoughts and sentiments are foreign to you, and that’s why so much said above goes over your head.

      ————————————————————————————————
      “The physical beauty of this place is very wonderful. We hope that a spiritual charm may surround and halo it; then its beauty will be perfect. There is a spiritual atmosphere manifest here particularly at sunset.
      In cities like New York the people are submerged in the sea of materialism. Their sensibilities are attuned to material forces, their perceptions purely physical. The animal energies predominate in their activities; all their thoughts are directed to material things; day and night they are devoted to the attractions of this world, without aspiration beyond the life that is vanishing and mortal. In schools and temples of learning knowledge of the sciences acquired is based upon material observations only; there is no realization of Divinity in their methods and conclusions – all have reference to the world of matter. They are not interested in attaining knowledge of the mysteries of God or understanding the secrets of the heavenly Kingdom; what they acquire is based altogether upon visible and tangible evidences. Beyond these evidences they are without susceptibilities; they have no idea of the world of inner significances and are utterly out of touch with God, considering this an indication of reasonable attitude and philosophical judgement whereof they are self-sufficient and proud.

      As a matter of fact, this supposed excellence is possessed in its superlative degree by the animals. . . . the donkey is the greatest scientist and the cow an accomplished naturalist, for they have obtained what they know without schooling and years of laborious study in colleges, trusting implicitly to the evidence of the senses and relying solely upon intuitive virtues. The cow, for instance, is a lover of the visible and a believer in the tangible, contented and happy when pasture is plenty, perfectly serene, a blissful exponent of the transcendental school of philosophy. Such is the status of the material philosophers, who glory in sharing the condition of the cow, imagining themselves in a lofty station. Reflect upon their ignorance and blindness.

      Nay, rather, the virtue of man is this: that he can investigate the ideals of the Kingdom and attain knowledge which is denied the animal in its limitation. The station of man is this: that he has the power to attain those ideals and thereby differentiate and consciously distinguish himself an infinite degree above the kingdoms of existence below him.

      The station of man is great, very great. God has created man after His own image and likeness. He has endowed him with a mighty power which is capable of discovering the mysteries of phenomena. Through its use man is able to arrive at ideal conclusions instead of being restricted to the mere plane of sense impressions. As he possesses sense endowment in common with the animals, it is evident that he is distinguished above them by his conscious power of penetrating abstract realities. He acquires divine wisdom; he searches out the mysteries of creation; he witnesses the radiance of omnipotence; he attains the second birth – that is to say, he is born out of the material world just as he is born of the mother; he attains to everlasting life; he draws nearer to God; his heart is replete with the love of God. This is the foundation of the world of humanity; this is the image and likeness of God; this is the reality of man; otherwise, he is an animal. Verily, God has created the animal in the image and likeness of man, for though man outwardly is human, yet in nature he possesses animal tendencies.

      You must endeavor to understand the mysteries of God, attain the ideal knowledge and arrive at the station of vision, acquiring directly from the Sun of Reality and receiving a destined portion from the ancient bestowal of God.”

      (`Abdu’l-Baha: Promulgation of Universal Peace, Pages: 261-263)
      ————————————————————————————————–

      Godzilla, you chose an appropriate name for yourself in light of the above.

  2. Trump can’t be sanitized because he momentarily shows a glimpse of settling down. Once one has been immersed in a world of bigotry and racist thinking, which were present in Trump’s home growing up, then popular acclaim from those in the Red Zone won’t wash that stain away.
    Godzilla, for example, shows the lasting effects of a racist attitude and an inability to cope with changing times. People like him and Trump, dream of maintaining the status quo, of milking the system, i.e., enjoying the loopholes that the Establishment provides for the “worthy”.
    Trump’s fame is noised abroad in the world of racists, and he makes no effort to dissociate himself from such groups.

  3. Otto T. Goat says:

    At the end of the day, Hillary is still a loser.

  4. Otto T. Goat says:

    At the end of the day blacks commit more than half of all murders in America, even though blacks are only 12% of the population.

  5. Otto T. Goat says:

    At the end of the day Michele Obama’s penis is bigger than yours.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      OK thanks for letting us know that you’re terrified of women, you enormous weenie. Don’t forget, there are support groups out there to help you come to terms with your obvious homosexuality.

    • Otto, the goats of the world have a higher status in the sight of God than you possess. Your vulgar and animal mind make you a subspecies of humanity.

      The talk by Abdu’l Baha in Eliot, Maine in 1912, speaks about your condition and that of others like you.

      ————————————————————————————————–
      “The physical beauty of this place is very wonderful. We hope that a spiritual charm may surround and halo it; then its beauty will be perfect. There is a spiritual atmosphere manifest here particularly at sunset.
      In cities like New York the people are submerged in the sea of materialism. Their sensibilities are attuned to material forces, their perceptions purely physical. The animal energies predominate in their activities; all their thoughts are directed to material things; day and night they are devoted to the attractions of this world, without aspiration beyond the life that is vanishing and mortal. In schools and temples of learning knowledge of the sciences acquired is based upon material observations only; there is no realization of Divinity in their methods and conclusions – all have reference to the world of matter. They are not interested in attaining knowledge of the mysteries of God or understanding the secrets of the heavenly Kingdom; what they acquire is based altogether upon visible and tangible evidences. Beyond these evidences they are without susceptibilities; they have no idea of the world of inner significances and are utterly out of touch with God, considering this an indication of reasonable attitude and philosophical judgement whereof they are self-sufficient and proud.
      As a matter of fact, this supposed excellence is possessed in its superlative degree by the animals. . . . the donkey is the greatest scientist and the cow an accomplished naturalist, for they have obtained what they know without schooling and years of laborious study in colleges, trusting implicitly to the evidence of the senses and relying solely upon intuitive virtues. The cow, for instance, is a lover of the visible and a believer in the tangible, contented and happy when pasture is plenty, perfectly serene, a blissful exponent of the transcendental school of philosophy. Such is the status of the material philosophers, who glory in sharing the condition of the cow, imagining themselves in a lofty station. Reflect upon their ignorance and blindness.

      Nay, rather, the virtue of man is this: that he can investigate the ideals of the Kingdom and attain knowledge which is denied the animal in its limitation. The station of man is this: that he has the power to attain those ideals and thereby differentiate and consciously distinguish himself an infinite degree above the kingdoms of existence below him.
      The station of man is great, very great. God has created man after His own image and likeness. He has endowed him with a mighty power which is capable of discovering the mysteries of phenomena. Through its use man is able to arrive at ideal conclusions instead of being restricted to the mere plane of sense impressions. As he possesses sense endowment in common with the animals, it is evident that he is distinguished above them by his conscious power of penetrating abstract realities. He acquires divine wisdom; he searches out the mysteries of creation; he witnesses the radiance of omnipotence; he attains the second birth – that is to say, he is born out of the material world just as he is born of the mother; he attains to everlasting life; he draws nearer to God; his heart is replete with the love of God. This is the foundation of the world of humanity; this is the image and likeness of God; this is the reality of man; otherwise, he is an animal. Verily, God has created the animal in the image and likeness of man, for though man outwardly is human, yet in nature he possesses animal tendencies.

      You must endeavor to understand the mysteries of God, attain the ideal knowledge and arrive at the station of vision, acquiring directly from the Sun of Reality and receiving a destined portion from the ancient bestowal of God. ”

      (`Abdu’l-Baha: Promulgation of Universal Peace, Pages: 261-263)
      ————————————————————————————————–

      So, Otto, what will it be—Will you continue to be just an animal, or will you try to evolve to become a human???

      • charleo1 says:

        I loved it. But do you believe Otto will take the time to read it? Hell, he can’t pronounce half the words, much less appreciate your fine points.

        • Thank you. I put that out mainly for your benefit, and other members of society who are noble of character and possess insight and wisdom.
          I directed it at Otto, because I want him to be put on notice, even though he projects a mental/spiritual morbidity that precludes him and others like him from understanding higher concepts.

  6. Dear conservatives, GOP’ers, Trump, Bannon:

    Otto the Goat’s postings below, I would reckon, accurately reflect who you’ve become, implicitly and/or explicitly.
    Otto’s dark soul says a lot about a disease that finds its loudest expression in the flauntings of Bannon, Otto, and so many others who call themselves conservatives.

    The moral corruption that Otto feels compelled to unleash is what conservatism can do to the soul. Some of you sympathize with Otto’s trash, others might say “Tsk, Tsk—that’s terrible”, and then move on to contemplate conspiracies regarding emails. In your minds, email mishandling is far more egregious than lewdness or racism.

    • Dominick Vila says:

      In all fairness, there is a huge difference between what conservatism stood for a few decades ago, and what it has become. It could be argued that there were always hints of bigotry, among some old fashioned conservatives in the past, but it was never as obvious or prevalent as it is nowadays.

      • FireBaron says:

        Dom, that’s because when you and I were younger, Conservatism meant that society could evolve, only under a slower more deliberate process. The “Conservatives” that used to be the core of the GOP have been kicked out, along with the “Progressives”, by the Reactionaries, brought in by Nixon’s “Southern Strategy”. As LBJ abandoned the racist, segregationist Southern Democratic past, the Dixiecrats and Southern Segregationist Democrats found their way into the welcoming arms of the GOP, much to the chagrin of people like Barry Goldwater, Nelson Rockefeller and Ronald Reagan.
        Reagan, himself, would not recognize the Republican party of today, just as it would not recognize him as a “True Conservative”, relegating him to the same RINO status they seem to attach to anyone else who knows how to compromise to get what is needed done.

      • Yes, and not all conservatives today are cold, callous, and heartless.
        Unfortunately, partisan-politics forces many to think that they have to choose between being civil or to act like the beasts of the field, to be overly zealous about maintaining the status quo or adopt a more sane and rational response to changing times.

  7. AgLander says:

    Hillary Clinton’s supporters lost the election last week, but their actions and words over the 8 days since the election has clearly exposed them as also being losers in life and weak in character due to their repulsive and seditious behavior.

    • I Am Helpy says:

      OK thanks for letting us know how your delicate neo-Nazi fee-fees got hurt.

    • charleo1 says:

      Well, perhaps you’d like to round us all up? Those who disagree with you. Those who in your estimation are just dregs of society anyway. Best they be eliminated by one means or another in a grand final solution, so to speak. Is that about it? What a fine stand up American you became after all the crap, and poison you’ve taken down your greedy gullet. Your posts are a daily inspiration of what we must not allow this Country, this home of ours to ever become. We must remember your comments, and those like them. Especially now, more than ever before. So keep posting moron. Like your hero Trump, you’re reminding, and motivating people.

      • AgLander says:

        Taking a short break from rioting, looting and burning? Yep…..dregs is a compliment considering the seditious behavior you anarchists are carrying out!

        • I Am Helpy says:

          OK thanks for the strawman racism, gramps.

        • I Am Helpy says:

          Also, it’s kinda weird for you dumb bigots to accuse other people of being seditious, in as much as you bent over for Putin.

          • AgLander says:

            Your assignment for today is to fetch your crayon box, sit down with a tablet, and write 500 times the words “PRESIDENT TRUMP”. If you start now, you may get finished before mommy comes downstairs with your egg salad sandwich at noon!
            P.S. Are you ready now to admit that maybe you should not have dropped out of school?

          • I Am Helpy says:

            Sorry you think that makes sense, although it’s always hilarious to see your issues with women come bubbling to the surface. It’s weird that you think that I dropped out of school like you did; I have two degrees. Again, thanks for making me all that money – it’s unfortunate that you’re going to die in poverty of an untreatable disease, but then it’s not like anyone loves you.

          • AgLander says:

            You’re wasting time!! Get off the computer and pick up that crayon and continue writing!

          • I Am Helpy says:

            OK sorry you got nothing.

  8. woodrose says:

    The single greatest predictor of whether a person votes for Trump? Trump voters believe in the melting pot, not multiculturalism. 9 out of 10 Trump voters agree with this statement: “people living in the U.S. should follow American customs and learn English.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/opinion/presidential-small-ball.html?_r=0&mtrref=undefined&gwh=AC51910CB0EBA7A219D384DCDA05F15A&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion

    Democrats need to understand that multiculturalism is not a workable philosophy for our country. The ’emerging white minority’ is now one more identity group in identity politics, and the result is white nationalism. As was predicted by this prescient article from 1999:
    http://www.unz.com/article/california-and-the-end-of-white-america/

    I’ve long said that I’m a feminist, not a multiculturalist. I don’t respect cultures that don’t respect women. I fully agree with the progressive economic agenda, but I part ways on the idea that I should welcome seeing the melting pot culture I grew up in swept away, and I should welcome seeing burkas at my local mall, for example. No, I do not.

    Trump’s deliberate flouting of Political Correctness served to distract Hillary from talking about jobs. (and boy, did she take the bait. Every Hillary ad that I saw focused on Trump’s comments) His coarse statements didn’t matter to Trump’s voters, because they are focused on survival matters – jobs, jobs, jobs. (Of course, I don’t believe Trump will actually bring back blue collar jobs to the Rust Belt). This article explains:
    https://medium.com/@jesseleburke/how-trump-won-or-how-hillary-lost-aa6dfbcd4b8b#.rgkyne51l

    Millions of Trump’s voters are not bigots. I hope Democrats can build bridges and adapt and learn, so that an FDR-style New Deal for All Americans Democrat can win someday.

    • FireBaron says:

      As the grandson and great-grandson of immigrants from Italy, my family were also New Deal Democrats. Yes, we had our neighborhood enclaves where English was a Second Language. Yes, we spoke a mixture of Italian and English in our homes. However, when we were working in the general community, it was English all the way.
      The current crop of immigrants, however, seem mixed. Some look forward to acculturating into our society, adopting our language and mannerisms, while others want to maintain their own culture and language to the exclusion of all others.
      So, Woodrose, I am an old school Liberal Democrat, and I support all people equally. Do I believe the women have not gotten a fair shake regarding opportunity and pay? Damn straight, I do! Do I believe that people of color have not gotten a fair shake regarding opportunity and pay? Damn straight again! Like you, I also believe that a culture that does not recognize others as their equals, whether it be Race, Religion, Gender, Sexual orientation, etc., needs to realize they are not in a homogeneous society anymore. They are in a heterogeneous group and must learn to adapt to it. If they want a single set of social rules to govern them, they should return to where they came from. If they are willing to accept us, warts and all, then we should welcome them as we have welcomed others over the past 240 or so years.

    • charleo1 says:

      You like the economics, good. The respect for equality, equal Rights, equal pay for equal work for women, I’m sure. The idea that every one of us irrespective of our gender, disability, religion, or race, deserve a fair shot at a good education, a chance to work hard, and if we’re lucky, realize our version of the American Dream. But you don’t believe in multi-culturism. So what part of multi-culturism that includes all those things, do you not believe in? And what part of not believing in the inherent Right of each individual in our Country to pursue their vision of happiness, and to observe their own religious tenets, or cultural traditions do you not see as American? What is it do you think, that sets those Trump supporters apart, or makes them any different from the bigots who would also have it otherwise if they had their way around the Constitution? I think it’s a fair question.
      Because as we’ve seen the White Nationalists are very excited, as are other so called cultural purists. Who believe America stands four square and exclusively for White Christianity. That we are a majority White, a majority Christian, and a majority male dominated society, as the Bible describes. And we should very strongly do whatever is necessary to maintain that. Including rounding up what would be millions of people via state police action. Incarcerating them, and then deporting them. As opposed to doing the responsible, and right thing. And fixing our own broken system. And when they see a citizen in what they see as their White Christian Country, walking around in foreign garb, it is viewed as an affront to their vision of what America should, and shouldn’t be. Again, my question to you is. And you certainly do not have to answer but to yourself. But in what way are these Trump supporters, just because they don’t attend some Klan meeting, or belong to a Neo Nazi Party, or have some Black or latino friends, somehow not quantified as racists?

      • woodrose says:

        As one example, I think it’s reasonable for children born in this country to arrive at school for kindergarten speaking English. Of course it’s great if they speak a second language as well, as many children of immigrants do. But many children arrive speaking only one language that is not English. So, the schools have developed 6 year bilingual programs to teach them in their native language while learning English, too. A white recent college grad finds they cannot get a job as a schoolteacher in their hometown, because all new hires have to be bilingual teachers. Does the resentment felt by the aspiring teacher make him/her a racist xenophobic bigot that the Democrats don’t want in their coalition?

        Here’s an excerpt from a Mother Jones article:

        http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/rust-belt-democrats-saw-trump-wave-coming

        Like Betras, Taylor doesn’t believe his peers and neighbors who supported Trump are racist. But he understands how Trump’s talk about immigration appealed to people in the Rust Belt. A few years ago, his union was working on a billion-dollar natural gas processing plant, and the workers noticed that the bulk of the work was being done by Spanish-speaking laborers who arrived each morning on buses. “It brought a lot of resentment to the area because they’d never seen it before,” Taylor says. “People see that and then they go tell everybody else, and social media, the way it is, it just runs wild.” He believes Trump benefited when the community saw immigrants “taking jobs that Americans think they should be doing.”

        endquote

        Are the workers who resent buses of Spanish-speaking workers arriving to work on construction projects in Ohio xenophobic racist bigots? Or are they hard working family men worried about job opportunities for their own teenage children?

        • woodrose says:

          Oh, and those union workers resentful of buses of Spanish-speaking workers bused into the job site? Some of them are English-speaking Latino American citizens also worried about the jobs available for their children. A quarter of Latinos voted for Donald Fucking Trump.

          • charleo1 says:

            What do you think motivates that? Perhaps the very un-Christian concept of I’ve got mine Jack, too bad about yours? It’s fairly common amongst all color and creed, I hear.

          • woodrose says:

            Half of the people in the US are poor or near poor. Half the people in the US cannot meet an unexpected $400 expense. And you are looking down your nose at blue collar workers, telling them they need to share. Quite a Christian you are.

          • charleo1 says:

            I’m not looking down for my morals but the words of Christ. Did you assume I came upon such counterintuitive wisdom on my own?
            My faith tells me it is so hard to be a good Christian, we all fall short.
            But that is what I believe we are all supposed to do. Unto others as we would have them do unto us. Look, we can’t knock the other fellow’s religion, if we can’t acknowledge the simple fundamentals of our own.

        • woodrose says:

          Oh, and those union workers resentful of buses of Spanish-speaking workers bused into the job site? Some of them are English-speaking Latino American citizens also worried about the jobs available for their children. A quarter of Latinos voted for Donald Trump.

        • charleo1 says:

          I think we need to realize these are not new situations endemic to the Latino, or Muslim immigrant. Nor is Trump the first pol to be fanning the flames of religious and racial animus salaried workers feel toward the newly arrived immigrants. Coming in and working for less, and taking jobs they, “feel,” ought to have gone to them, or to their children starting out. After all, they offer, we were here first. It’s a divisive political ploy as old as America itself. “Irish need not apply.” Remember? It is also, as these new arrivals always demonstrate with their success, and second generation assimilation, a false one. Now,
          if these workers looked at the situation squarely, they would demand their Congress fix a broken system that would legally allow such unfair dumping of cheap, and social resource dependent labor into their struggling communities. Instead of voting for a demagogue proposing such nonsense as a 2500 mile long great wall, or the specter of having millions of otherwise law abiding good people rounded up and cruelly deported to places thousands of these children have never been. As a Christian, I would see such an act as tyrannously evil, and would only be imposed by a hate ruled, and Fascist thinking regime. Not to mention being beneath every value we as a Nation profess to hold dear.
          So I’m not actually into name calling angry workers, who have clearly been taken advantage of by an investor class who constantly push Congress advocating for loopholes as are in current immigration law, that allows such wage suppressing tactics. They should do their homework however. as ignorance of the law is no excuse. And then they could see for themselves why such immigration reform is not getting done, before they go into the voting booth and send the same crony enablers back to their offices to continue on with the same business. Before this good and wonderful Country of ours does something for which generations to come will be eternally ashamed.

      • woodrose says:

        As far as the women in burkas issue, as I mentioned, I am a feminist. Why in the world would I want to live among the Taliban? If that’s what I wanted, I could move to their country.

        When it was reported that the father of the Orlando shooter is an immigrant Taliban sympathizer, I shook my head that our government had allowed him to immigrate here 30 years ago. How did such a man raise his son, born in the US?

        When it was revealed that a few weeks before the nightclub shooting, the Orlando mosque had a guest speaker, a Shiite muslim from Iran and Britain, who had preached ‘Islam requires the death penalty for gays,’ I was not really happy that the US had given this iman a visa to come here and preach like that in a city full of free American gay citizens. What do we do when the religious freedom of immigrants becomes a perceived threat to my own safety, or the safety of my gay friends?

        If I was Canadian, I would want my government to keep Westboro Baptist Church crazies out of my country. As Americans, we have to deal with them and they do have freedom to do their stuff, but why do we need to import more from overseas?

        I’m an infidel and proud of it. I’m a feminist, an agnostic, and I support gay rights. Why is it in my interest for a mosque to be built down the street to serve recent immigrants, with an iman preaching ‘Death to the Infidels’?

        Call me a racist xenophobic islamophobic bigot if you like. After reading how white privileged I am for supporting Bernie, only to see the pragmatic choice lose to a reality TV demagogue in part because Democrats are too politically correct to discuss real concerns of real Americans, I am fresh out of fucks to give.

        • charleo1 says:

          As a feminist, or as a human being, it’s hard to witness such blatant misogyny, sure. My wive and myself have commented on just that very thing you point to. But I also think we need to recognize the vestiges that remain of this kind of bigotry in our own religion, and culture. If it helps in our recognition that a lot of what we aspire to in this Country is hard. That democracy is hard. Inclusiveness, and being tolerant is hard, but in the end worth it. Because we stand for a much better way. For a kinder, more enlightened society, that strives to understand our brothers, and sisters that hold more in common with us, and differences. And that’s hard. As often doing the right thing, and being a better person, is always the more challenging path. We can know, and should be grateful that we as a people for over two hundred years have been blessed to grow up, and live in such a totally different place. That our people came and thrived under this, such a totally different set of rules, than that woman we might see still trapped in the oppression of her culture and 14th century religion. That by the grace of God we have been freed of that kind of tyranny. And so, we must challenge ourselves in our gratitude, to be more understanding, and less judgmental of the individual. Less willing to believe the divisive hate mongering, and calls for isolationism that less reflect the reality of a World that gets a bit smaller with each passing day. Contentions that are an anathema to the precept that all of us are endowed by a loving Creator with a certain set of sacrosanct Rights. Lending to the notion we are all equal in the eyes of God. And so our laws, if correct should reflect that. That’s hard. But who said reversing 10,000 years of human proclivity was going to be easy?

          • woodrose says:

            I’m aware that there are native born misogynist assholes in the US. That is no reason at all to demand we must import more. I want to MINIMIZE the number of misogynistic assholes running around my beloved country.

          • charleo1 says:

            You’re broad brushing, and stereotyping, and you know that’s not right. So let’s at least try to do the right thing. First by not doing, or saying those things we know to be wrong. As I said, it’s not easy to follow our better selves.

      • woodrose says:

        As far as the women in burkas issue, as I mentioned, I am a feminist. Why in the world would I want to live among the Taliban? If that’s what I wanted, I could move to their country.
        When it was reported that the father of the Orlando shooter is an immigrant Taliban sympathizer, I shook my head that our government had allowed him to immigrate here 30 years ago. How did such a man raise his son, born in the US?
        When it was revealed that a few weeks before the nightclub shooting, the Orlando mosque had a guest speaker, a Shiite muslim from Iran and Britain, who had preached ‘Islam requires the death penalty for gays,’ I was not really happy that the US had given this imam a visa to come here and preach like that in a city full of free American gay citizens. What do we do when the religious freedom of immigrants becomes a perceived threat to my own safety, or the safety of my gay friends?
        If I was Canadian, I would want my government to keep Westboro Baptist Church crazies out of my country. As Americans, we have to deal with them and they do have freedom to do their stuff, but why do we need to import more from overseas?
        I’m an infidel and proud of it. I’m a feminist, an agnostic, and I support gay rights. Why is it in my interest for a mosque to be built down the street to serve recent immigrants, with an imam preaching ‘Death to the Infidels’?
        Call me a racist xenophobic islamophobic bigot if you like. After hearing how white privileged I am for supporting Bernie, only to see the pragmatic choice lose to a reality TV demagogue in part because Democrats are too politically correct to discuss some real concerns of real Americans, I am beyond caring.

      • Box says:

        You are seriously missing something. I too believe in the melting pot and not multi-culturalism and I can say why.

        There is a very old article, maybe 25 years old now, called “The Ethnic Noise is Deafening” (I think) which appeared in a magazine and I saved it somewhere. It described the problem for any society which is forced to listen to each person based on their heritage country from which they carry forward that ethnicity to their new home instead of blending in. Try to find it and read it. Its not workable because how does the country operate when 200-country transplants each want their way? How does any country function when the Greeks, Turks, Jews, Sudanese, Chinese, Bolivians, Singaporeans all want an equal say in government? It cannot function. Yet each transplanted group in US insists on being heard and wants the agenda for its own group to prevail. Even this moment muslims insist on sharia law, as an example. Thats not the pursuit of happiness or the american dream, its something else which causes a country to cease to function. 25 years since that article, the predictions are coming true that chaos will reign. Thats why the melting pot worked for the first 200+ years and why it has to continue. What, we have 200 separate governments and call it a country?

        • charleo1 says:

          I realize you’re trying to sound fair, and above the usual knee jerk nativism that most likely is inherent to each ethnicity, White European ethnicity included. But you’re not getting there. For one thing, your characterizations of cultures, not your own, their motives, and what you see as their refusals to assimilate, you’re advancing from the perspective of an ethnic outsider. And broad brushing like the dickens. Especially in your assertions that Muslims, all or most immigrating to this Country are intent on establishing the primacy of Sharia Law, which is provably false. But then you go on from that to compound your original error by extrapolation. Using that as your foundation for a list of reasons as to why one culture, (yours) must eventually reign supreme here. Otherwise you conclude, with all these other cultures demanding to heard, and recognized, it just won’t work. So again using these falsehoods, you make the case for some form of un-Constitutional, institutionalized preference of one culture, race, and religion over the others. Even presenting Germany, and UK as examples of the failures that are sure to befall us here. As if the failures there, are profound, they are not. And by assuming we and they, their histories, their social norms, gov. and traditionally stratified populations within their own ethnic groups were proof positive our striving to uphold what are fundimental American ideals were fruitless. I don’t buy that. I believe in the premise that all people irrespective of race, culture, or religion, long to be respected. To be allowed to worship as they please, to be treated equally under the law, and have a say in the government that runs the country in which they live. If they wanted otherwise, most would have stayed where they were.

        • You have a seriously flawed mind that constantly and only sees multiplicity. If you would take some time to think clearly, you’ll note that all humans are members of the same family. Do you discriminate against members of your own family, or do you acknowledge that they have different qualities but descend from you and their mother?
          If you took the time to read and reflect on what Baha’u’llah and Abdu’l Baha wrote concerning humanity, you wouldn’t be so confused and confounded by diversity of the human family. Instead, your world-view sees “White people” first and foremost, and all others trail off insofar as relevancy is concerned. Your mind is constipated by whiteness and Americanism, and therefore you have trouble seeing the whole earth as one country, and its peoples the “citizens” of that country. Conservatism is a mighty barrier between seeing that reality and the limited unity peddled by you and others with similar spiritual myopia.

    • Box says:

      I dont agree with all your points but I like your thinking. Please read the book, “New Deal or Raw Deal.” The truth of FDR’s programs couldnt give us what you want, but it would give us the hopes of Hillary and others.

      Question is, and given that most of the points of the New Deal still exist today, ( i wish youd read the book first because we could talk on the same footing) what parts of the true New Deal should be kept and which tossed? Or should it all be tossed and we start over? (you cant answer that yet)

      The book would definitely impact your thinking which I will call right now in a positive way and id love to talk to you more afterwards. Im currently reading it for the fourth time and wish every american had before the election, it hits every single thing on our minds and the overall situation become clearer.

      • woodrose says:

        Thank you for the book recommendation. I’m always looking for good stuff to read.

        Yes, we have some remainders from the New Deal, such as Social Security. But we’re missing the Works Progress Administration today. We have plenty of work that needs to be done, and we have lots of people needing work. A new WPA should be building nationwide high speed rail and other good things.

  9. Dominick Vila says:

    President Trump is going to have to demonstrate, through verifiable action and statements, that his convictions and plans are inconsistent with the incendiary rhetoric and hate speech that dominated his presidential bid. Until he does that, most Americans, and the entire world, will continue to see him as a caricature of a racist bully.
    Hopefully the weight of presidential responsibilities, and advice by mature individuals like Kellyanne Conway, Reince Priebus, and senior Senators and Congressmen, will convince him to start mending fences and make an effort to demonstrate that he is fit to assume the responsibilities of the most powerful office on Earth.

    • dbtheonly says:

      You ready to put money on that one?

      I’ll bet that Conway, Prebius, Ryan, & McConnell won’t make Trump any more palatable.

      At best, God has pity on the USA and we muddle through. At worst, Trump launches the missiles and incinerates the entire planet.

    • Box says:

      That sounds very reasonable to me.

      If you are following news closely you will see Trump has more or less abandoned the acidic rhetoric and backed off of many promises. Its not that he is a turncoat but the acid got him headline space to cut campaign costs and thats the end of it.

      The people closest to Trump say he isnt that monster and I believe it in the way they speak about it. On immigration, he isnt deporting 11 million illegals as promised in the campaign but is spearheading reform and future laws. Immigration works more on rules and guidelines than laws. If Congress agrees, the department will get something firmer than a guideline and seat of the pants administration.

      On another point, we already have Contract for America which was the self-imposed rule for two-term limit for Congress. He wants that to become law as Congress didnt abide by it.

      Anyway, he continues to calm down day by day and thats good for the country. From Dems the reverse rhetoric and old labels have to stop too.

  10. HowardBrazee says:

    Yeah, but he’s bigoted (in various degrees) against *everybody* not named Donald Trump.

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