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Tuesday, July 17, 2018

Don’t believe your Facebook feed’s pro-Sanders bias.

Bernie Sanders’s fans are often portrayed as hyped-up youngsters infatuated with the Vermonter’s long record of progressive legislation, and his passion for leveling out the economic playing field. In comparison, Clinton voters support the staid “establishment” – despite Clinton’s being a trailblazer in nearly everything she’s done.

Yet according to a recent Gallup poll, 54 percent of Clinton supporters are “very” or “extremely” enthusiastic about her candidacy, while the same is only true of 44 percent of Sanders supporters. While Bernie Sanders does dominate the under-30 vote, notably in Michigan and Iowa, his voters aren’t more excited about him than Clinton’s are about her.

Amanda Marcotte, writing for Alternet, argues that media bias could be clouding the real story:

It’s not hard to see why this false narrative that Sanders inspires more enthusiasm has taken root. He is the challenger running up against the favorite, and it is known that everyone likes an underdog. That, and his surprisingly robust chances against Clinton suggest a rising tide narrative, again not unfairly.

On top of that, most journalists who echo the Sanders enthusiasm narrative spend a lot of time on social media, and if you do that, then it’s safe to say that it looks like Sanders is inspiring a lot of enthusiasm. There is an explosion of memes and chatter about the “revolution” and sharing every single story they can find that says something positive about Sanders’s chances.

It’s not that Hillary doesn’t have her own memes and pop culture moments — they just get lost in the sea of content, and are often drowned out by those who dislike her or her surrogates, whether pop confectionary Katy Perry, feminist punching bag Lena Dunham, or unexpected rabble-rouser Madeleine Albright. There’s plenty of passionate prose about Hillary and how she’s perceived, from sexism to the art of the smile.

On the Republican side, the contest isn’t nearly as close. Although Donald Trump is revolting to millions of future voters, those who love him really love him. John Kasich and Ted Cruz are far more milquetoast to the Republican and Republican-leaning voters Gallup surveyed. Despite Cruz’s reputation as an sharp-toothed constitutionalist, just 39 percent of those surveyed are enthusiastic about him, compared to Trump’s 65 and Kasich’s 33.

Democrats who are “not too” or “not at all” enthusiastic about their preference are nearly evenly split in their indifference to Sanders and Clinton, suggesting that they find the candidates similar, aren’t paying much attention to the race, or simply want some Democrat to make it to the White House in January.

Cruz and Kaisch, by contrast, have much larger groups of supporters “not too” or “not at all” enthusiastic about them — 35 and 51 percent, respectively.

The survey was conducted via cellphone and landline interviews March 21-23 with a random sample of 1,358 registered voters (635 Republicans and independents who lean Republican, and 610 Democrats and those who lean Democratic). Voters were over 18 and lived in all 50 states including the District of Columbia.

Photo: Democratic U.S. presidential candidates Senator Bernie Sanders and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton arrive on stage ahead of the start of the PBS NewsHour Democratic presidential candidates debate in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, February 11, 2016. REUTERS/Darren Hauck

23 Responses to Gallup: Hillary’s Supporters Are More Entusiastic Than Bernie’s

  1. That’s easy to understand. Hillary’s supporters are real people and Bernie’s are fakes consisting of GOP operatives and paid NRA and AIPAC trolls.

    • Geez, you’re even more deluded than I thought. Yah, the GOP is paying people to support Hilary. Yet the GOP often mentioned Clinton during their debates but nary a word about Sanders. It’s clear who the GOP wants as an opponent. That may be not because they think Clinton is easier to beat but the money behind the GOP knows that Clinton won’t be a departure from business as usual if she is elected.

      • Of all the pro-Hillary writers on Hillary supporter Joe Conason’s site, yabbed is by far the worse – yabbed is almost down to RWNJ level.

  2. Gallop needs to get a phone list with less landlines. Here in NY, Hillary can’t even fill a small gymnasium unless hacks show up. Meanwhile, Sanders had 18,000 people show up in the Bronx, NY on two days notice.

  3. This story doesn’t seem to make any objective sense, but assuming the reverse were true (and it is) we’re not going to be getting any positive stories on that at the National — don’t vote for Bernie Sanders — Memo.

    Let me get this straight. They never want to stop running stories on the horrible Bernie Bros, but now they want to start running wonderful stories on the loyalty of the Hillary Ho’s.

  4. Whose supporters are “more enthusiastic”, really??? I guess when you have nothing of substance to use you resort to intangibles and personal opinions. that’s fine for casual conversation but pathetic as a professionally written article.

      • I don’t if I would say none but your statement is generally accurate I think especially when it comes to HRC, clearly the NM’s favorite.

  5. Yeah that’s why she is out fund raising him and she draws so many more crowds them him, not. Who does these polls?? And who the hell are they calling???

  6. The Clinton campaign is officially in full meltdown. They realize they simply cannot win outside of the south. This is embarrassing as she lost by more than 13 points in the Wisconsin PRIMARY. THAT IS SEVEN HUGE VICTORIES IN ROW. Bernie even beats her with women. Hillary may not win another state. Hillary’s only hope is that her Superdelegates do not abandon her like in 2008 even though Bernie will have won more voted delegates (will of the people).

    • Dream on.
      HRC has 1279 delegates to BS 1027, more than 25% more delegates. With superdelegates its 1748 to 1058, 62% to BS 38%. Bernie would have to win over 67% of ALL remaining delegates to get the nod. Not gonna happen.

    • Can’t win outside the South??? How about Ohio, Massachusetts, Iowa? Sorry. the reality is that Sanders has done admirably well, but he is far behind, his most advantageous states are largely behind him (he will likely win West Virginia), and it will all be over come New York.

      • He is only down 200 pledged delegates with 1500 to go. We will not have a contested convention. Whoever has more voted (pledged) delegates will be the nominee. The Superdelegates have never overridden the will of the people. So the question is will the media be successful in muting Bernie and his movement and have us nominate a plutocrat over a progressive? I would not consider ties in IA and MA as big victories for HRC. She has gotten shallacked in all of the other non southern states. CA will decide the nominee. For the benefit of the country I hope it is Bernie. God Bless You. God Bless America.

        • “Shellacked”??? In the vast majority of states he won – which have largely been much smaller states with few delegates available, he squeaked out a nominal win in the popular vote while barely trimming her delegate lead. In addition, she has totally crushed him in the popular vote, taken as a whole. I doubt it will come down to California, but since she is still holding a commanding lead there, it really doesn’t matter. As far as super delegates go, even if she merely holds onto a small lead in pledged delegates by the time the convention rolls around, a lead is a lead: how and why should they believe they would be flouting “the will of the people” by holding true to their promises? Moreover, given how little actual daylight exists between them on the issues, it is simply silly to call her a “plutocrat”. The Clinton Foundation, target of so many conspiracy-theory-addled absurdities, is considered by actual watchdog agencies to be one of the top ten humanitarian organizations in the world. Finally, if by some miracle he DOES manage to win, he will get my wholehearted support, given the appalling alternatives of Mussolini or Torquemada on the GOP side.

  7. This is the 2nd time NM has run a column citing the Gallup poll, by two different authors. That’s not reporting; it’s propaganda. NM is in the tank for HRC. So be it.

    On March 24th, at about the same time Gallup ran their poll, Bloomberg reported that Bernie and Hillary were neck and neck among Democrats: Sanders 49% — Hillary 48%. It said:

    “The collection of enthusiastic first-time voters, thoseunder 35, men, and self-described independents that he’s leaned on to win in states like New Hampshire and Colorado are keeping Sanders in the race, as ishis message singularly focused on addressing income inequality.

    By a more than 2-to-1 ratio, Democratic primary voters say Sanders would fight harder than Clinton for the middle class and do the most to rein in the power of Wall Street.

    Nearly six in 10 say the Vermont senator cares the most about people like them, and 64 percent see him as the most honest and trustworthy candidate. Just a quarter of voters said that of Clinton.

    “It comes down to this: Bernie Sanders is the one Democrats see as looking out for them — meaning he will build a stronger middle class at the expense of Wall Street,” said J. Ann Selzer, whose firm conducted the poll. “They trust him to do it. In the end, Hillary Clinton has a trust problem.”

    • …and yet, the vast majority of voters who actually VOTE are choosing Hillary, despite a primary/caucus calendar that has demographically given Sanders an edge up until now. The rest of the primaries favor Hillary; let’s see how New York and the rest of those New England states go. It looks at the moment very much like April 19th will be the end of the Sanders campaign.

  8. Over the years I’ve notice an insidious media echo. Somebody somewhere (often the GOP) will start a certain narrative about a subject or person and media folks will begin to mimic that narrative whether it is true or not. Often that phrase or description becomes part of the vernacular and repeated ad-nauseam. Few ever question a narrative once it becomes popular. This is where our media fails us most often. They must always question and not merely accept what us fed to them. If not, the public is hoodwinked into pointless wars or deceived into believing things that are so untrue that they are twist our understanding of important issues like Presidential candidates.

  9. Exit polling data last night in Wisconsin showed that a putrid 12% of Hillary voters rated themselves as very enthusiastic about a Hillary Presidency. The Clinton propaganda is one thing but this is more flat out, straight up, lies from the National — don’t vote for Bernie Sanders — Memo.

    • You don’t have a real good handle on logic, do you? The polls cited above are NATIONWIDE, while the stat you cite is from one single state that Sanders won. Back here in the real world, that is referred to as “cherry-picking”.

  10. We get it about Sanders supporters. They are enjoying to be out on rallies, scream and make a lot of noise with their fellow friends and nothing really concrete touchs them deeply. We did the same when we were at their age. Nothing new.

    • Boy howdy do I get what you are saying. Have both my college age grandchildren passionately supporting Bernie, and want to convince me to do the same, but I have lived 70 + years in the “real world” and know we need someone that can get something really done and how ever you look at it, and I have no ‘illusions”, Hillary will have to be it. At least she is more realistic at the difficulty she will have dealing with an intransigent bunch of bullies and extremists on the right. But I get it, I understand why the young want to believe in Bernie’s message. I, however, can’t say I am “excited” or “enthusiastic” about Hillary…..If I had may real wishes come true, I’d vote for Pres. Obama again, along with a finally, sane and functioning Democratic Senate Majority and House Majority. Then something would finally get done, for the real majority in this country and be rid of the vicious, dysfunctional, hateful, divisive and obstructionist government hating GOP…. Yeah…….if only!!!!

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