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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid claims that a Bain Capital investor told him the real reason that Mitt Romney doesn’t want to release his tax returns: Romney didn’t pay any taxes for ten years.

Reid made the explosive charge during an interview with The Huffington Post. Sam Stein and Ryan Grim report:

“His poor father must be so embarrassed about his son,” Reid said, in reference to George Romney’s standard-setting decision to turn over 12 years of tax returns when he ran for president in the late 1960s.

Saying he had “no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy,” Reid sat up in his chair a bit before stirring the pot further. A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.

“Harry, he didn’t pay any taxes for 10 years,” Reid recounted the person as saying.

“He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain,” said Reid. “But obviously he can’t release those tax returns. How would it look?

“You guys have said his wealth is $250 million,” Reid went on. “Not a chance in the world. It’s a lot more than that. I mean, you do pretty well if you don’t pay taxes for 10 years when you’re making millions and millions of dollars.”

Reid did not name the Bain investor who supposedly called him up, nor did he elaborate on how this investor would know the details of Romney’s secretive finances. That is, of course, Reid’s entire point. The only way for Romney to disprove the charges is by releasing his tax returns, which he has steadfastly refused to do. Although it is a rather dirty tactic, Reid’s claim has very little political downside.

The Romney campaign responded in a statement from campaign adviser Kevin Madden, who told Politico that Romney had “gone above and beyond the disclosure requirements by releasing two years of personal tax returns in addition to the hundreds of pages of personal financial disclosure documents he has provided to the FEC and made public.”

Madden continued that it was “troubling and disappointing that Senator Reid would cite Governor Romney’s father, George, as part of a personal attack against the governor. We have many substantive disagreements with the senator and his policies, but using insults about a father-son relationship is a step too far.”

Although the campaign did not directly address the claim that Romney did not pay taxes for a decade, in the past spokesman Andrea Saul has said that it’s “not true” that the candidate has ever paid zero dollars in taxes.

  • bcarreiro

    transparency is the key to clarity…obama is the real deal, we need to abolish the power that congress has over its own people. we the people know what to do with this economy not the greedy fools on the wrong side of the aisle.

    • TheOldNorthChurch

      If this guy is the “real deal” we are all in trouble. Where is his transparency? He is as greedy as the rest of the bunch.

  • old_blu

    Are they kidding us? We all knew he was hiding something big, lets see him try and whimp, and weasel his way out of this.

  • When a person has nothing to hide, he hides nothing. Romney has something to hide thats why he doesn’t release his Tax Returns. No one should take his words.

    • That is a slippery slope, my friend. You may be right, but that argument assumes too much.

    • This man is just repeating history in 2001 Mitt file in Utah residents paid a lower state tax rate than non-residents. The tax form have an area that ask if you are
      residents or non-residents. Guess what Mitt left the boxes blank.

      Then in 2002 ran for Government Massachusetts, Democrats in Mass stated Mitt was eligible he was not a residents. He lied over and over again under oath until prove of his tax return in Utah. He jump up stated his CPA made an mistake , Mitt
      amend several years of his return in Utah.

      This time he check to box as non-residents, call the state of Utah about mistake
      made by his CPA , said he never review the return.

      Utah accepted the payment and did not prosecute him.

      Now He at it again He will lie until you show him that you know the true.

  • Harry Reid hasn’t paid HIS fair share for decades either. So what goes around, comes around.

    • old_blu

      Oh! You must mean like the baseless accusation of no birth certificate.
      RIGHT?

    • And, you have proof of this?

    • jarheadgene

      Sen Reid isn’t running for President.

    • I don’t know what Harry Reid pays in taxes. I don’t think you do, either. However, I don’t think Harry Reid should have repeated the comment about Romney’s taxes.

  • It’s baseless accusations like this that give Liberals a bad name.

    • YepThatTell

      How about that Harry Reid, taking a page from the GOP/Tea Party Playbook! Go get’em, Harry!

    • old_blu

      Oh! You must mean like the baseless accusation of no birth certificate.
      RIGHT?

    • WhutHeSaid

      Say, is this Joe Paterno posting from somewhere in the Deep South?

      You haven’t been a good boy, Joe — Oh no, not at all!

  • montanabill

    Gee Harry, if Romney didn’t pay any taxes as you claim, turn him into the IRS and make yourself a nice chunk of change. What? They don’t have any problem with his taxes? Oh Harry, your a gnome again.

    • old_blu

      Oh bill you know that there are are alot of people who don’t pay taxes and do it real legal like so the IRS don’t care.

      • montanabill

        I think that’s about 50% of the country at last count.

        • Where do you get your statistics? Is it a qualified source?

          • WhutHeSaid

            I think Bill is relying on that worn-out lie about poor people not paying taxes. It’s a favorite chestnut of the Koch Brothers a.k.a. Tea Party. Any excuse to take the focus away from wealthy people not paying their share.

          • montanabill

            National Taxpayers Union along with a number of other sites. A fair description was written by Jason J. Fichtner a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center, a university-based research center at George Mason University and the world’s premier university source for market-oriented ideas. Previously, he served in several positions at the Social Security Administration including deputy commissioner of Social Security (acting), chief economist, and associate commissioner for retirement policy. Prior to the Social Security Administration, he was a senior economist with the Joint Economic Committee of the United States Congress. It is on the U.S. News & World Report web site.
            There is also a report by Stephen Ohlemacher, The Associated Press, entitled, “Fact check: The wealthy already pay more taxes” on the USA Today, Money page website.

    • Some of thempay their lawyers more than you make in ten years just to find ways for them not to pay taxes. Some of them stash their money in offshore accounts and Swiss Banks to avoid paying taxes. However, isn’t making Romney show his tax returns like violating the fifth amendment? Should he be forced to incriminate himself?

      • montanabill

        Maggie, I’m afraid you’ve been duped. Money stashed in off-shore accounts is either after-tax money or money earned in another country where taxes were paid there. The IRS has seen and approved Romney’s tax returns. If there was anything illegal, they would have all over Romney, especially with this White House.

        • jarheadgene

          You’re speaking from “The Bubble” again.

        • Keep believing that.

          • montanabill

            Of course, I will continue to believe that. What on earth makes you think otherwise? Do you have any proof that something else is going on? Do you have money hiding in off-shore accounts so you know it might be true? Do any of the rumor mongers have any proof? If not, it is simply an attempt demonize instead of facing the real issues of the campaign.

  • dljones

    Is Dirty Harry having a senior moment and having another problem or is it paranoia. Now, I’m not sure of this any more than I am sure about Romney tax returns but thought it better to put the word out.

    Paid for by a BIG donor promoting Scary Harry’s Visions!

    • YepThatTell

      That’s the right-wing tactic – put a statement out there and let it brew…relax, sit back and watch Romney feign righteous indignation….

      • dljones

        I created this comment out of a combination of boredom and jest. Reid’s easy picking. His slanderous observations were typical and ridiculous. He is unworthy of consideration and preposterous in the best of moments.

        Believing I am a fan of statement brewing, you are right. In this case-I will in dignity append the “right wing tactic” called truth, and antagonistly overflow with brew.

        You may deal with him until the nursing home takes over.

    • It’s not paranoia, it’s a tatic that has been used by the Tea Party and the GOP for years…they did it against McCain, Kerry and they have done it against Obama… tatic is simple Say something untrue and keep saying it, it either “becomes true” or the person is forced to reveal the truth. i.e. Obama showing his Birth Certificate. The idea is that Mitt is obviously hiding something, and He either will have to release the proof that he did pay taxes or continue to battle the statement that he did not…Great stratagey use their tatics against them!

    • We do have a lot of paranoia is this country. People are easy to scare. It is not a new tactic. It has been used successfully in other countries. Now, to address your hateful name calling, think about this people: There is something frightening about someone wanting to destroy one political party and take over the other one. It is your democracy that is in peril.

      • dljones

        I have a daughter who’s name is Maggie, so I will go easy. Presume your referencing Harry Reid. I didn’t mean to scare anyone. In brief, Obama and his minion Reid have destroyed this country in titanic proportions. Their salacious allegations continue to surface because the democrats have nothing to run on. Please, read Obama’s promises and compare there truthfulness (no excuses)in there fulfillment. We have lived the evidence of how cronically anemic this administrations 3 1/2 years has proven. If you did not know the country i just described, it would be a replicate identifiable to a socialist third world nation.

        The government takes care of from cradle to grave. For me, Ill die before giving up my constitutional freedom to any administration.

        • I hope you are willing to die for your constitution. It is not Obama or Harry Reid that is dangerous. It is not Boehner. It was not Olympia Snow. It is Tea Party persons who will let the country fail to see that their agenda is followed. If you go back and get the voting records you will see that anything President Obama proposed to help the economy was voted down by the House and never gets into the Senate. Even our decent Republican legislators are afraid of the tea party.

          • dljones

            Maggie: Your lack of home work and watching the mainstream nightly news illustrates I can no longer continue to pursue an intelligible dialogue.

  • howa4x

    Most wealthy people pay little or no taxes. Does anyone remember the famous remark of Leonia Helmsley that only little people(meaning you and me) pay taxes.? This tax issue will haunt Romney till the election is over.

    • montanabill

      Since I doubt you know too many wealthy people, I can assure you that the vast majority of them pay significant taxes. How else could you account for the fact that the top 10% pay about 70% of all the income taxes and the top 1% pay about 40% of all the income taxes?

      • phantomoftheopera

        you need to learn something about statistics. the important and telling fact is what percent of their wealth do they put into that 70% you quote. say you have $100 and i have $1000. we decide to invest in some widget. if we both in $10, you’ve spent 10% of your money. i’ve only spent 1%. i’d have to put in $100 to equal your percent.

        i don’t imagine you care that it hurts the poor more than the rich. or that the rich probably gain much more benefit from taxes than the poor. but please don’t say they pay significant taxes. the reality is that they pay less than their fair share.

        • montanabill

          What has your percentage argument got to do with anything? If we both paid 15% of our income to taxes, I suspect one of us would be paying a whole lot more. But for one of us to pay a larger percentage than the other is simply punishment.
          Please do a least a little research for you use the ‘fair share’ claim nonsense. Try U.S. News, USA Today, National Taxpayers Union among dozens of sites with the truth. Google: “percentage taxes paid by the rich”.

          • phantomoftheopera

            sorry. may be a fact, but not pertinent.

            let’s go back and try again. let’s say you have $100 and pay 10% tax=10 dollars. i still have $1000 and pay $90. that’s only 9%, yet is 90% of the taxes paid. Fair? are you happy as a clam trying to eat on $90 while I have $910!

            so, while they may pay 70% of taxes, it doesn’t follow that they paid a larger percent. and from everything i’ve read (see Buffet) they pay a smaller percent than those at the lower income levels.

            our tax system was set up at a time when people cared about other people. you may not understand unless you can think outside yourself. further, i think there’s a bible verse about that: unto whom much is given, much is expected.

          • montanabill

            I’m having a hard time understanding your model. If one person paid 10%, why didn’t the next person pay 10%? Secondly, it is easy enough to find out that the average Federal income tax rate for the top 1% is just above 24%, while the average Federal income tax rate for those in the 25-50% bracket ($32k-$66k) is just above 5%. So, obviously, the more wealthy are paying a higher percentage.
            In answer to your clam question, if I worked hard to earn that extra money, you bet I’m happy to have it.
            Finally, the two fallacies in your final paragraph. The first is an assumption that paying more in taxes has something to do with caring about other people. For that, a simple illustration: Warren Buffett has donated billions (while keeping billions) to the Gates Foundation. At the same time, he is fighting the Federal government over taxes claimed owed. If Buffett and Gates agreed with your line of reasoning, they would have simply paid that money as additional taxes rather than using a foundation to directly help people. Again, it is pretty easy to verify that most wealthy people give substantially directly to charitable foundations or to charity. Second fallacy, the bible verse: ‘much is given’. You have made the assumption that wealth was given. That is true in some cases, but the majority of the wealthy earned their wealth. They made the correct decisions and worked the hardest. So it was not ‘given’ or gotten through ‘good fortune’, and since they were the one’s who earned it, they should have the right to decide what to do with it not having the government take it and telling them, “we know better what to do with it”.

          • WhutHeSaid

            I see that you are out here performing wild gyrations to excuse skipping out on your bills again — tsk, tsk.

            Taxes are monies that you OWE. You don’t get to decide where it goes any more than your customers get to decide where the money goes once they pay for one of your products. It’s very simple: PAY YOUR BILLS. Once done, forget the money — you no longer have any control over it whatsoever.

            Don’t worry about what Buffett and Gates do with their money — they both recognize that a) their taxes are unfairly low, and b) they don’t get to follow the IRS around and demand eternal control over the money they pay.

            Honestly, I don’t know why you spend so much energy contorting yourself. It’s rather simple: You want more money at the expense of everybody else. Just admit it, stop this silly charade, and go happily roll around in your money room amid all of your shiny golden nuggets.

          • montanabill

            You keep forgetting the simple fact that my customers have a choice. Taxpayers don’t. Also, my paying the least taxes that I can, does not come at the expense of any other single soul, save maybe a government employee, an Egyptian army soldier or a Solyndra exec.
            Here’s something for you to chew on. Buffett is the President’s poster child for supposedly unfair taxes. Now he’s a smart man. He also has a battle going on with the IRS about taxes the IRS claims his company owes. What to do? How about going to the President and telling him it is unfair that he pays a lower rate than his secretary and that he will help make the case for higher taxes on the rich. Now he knows the Republicans control the House and they will vote for no such thing during a depression. But for his help, surely someone in the White House will call off the IRS dogs.
            Now while you claim Buffett and Gates recognize their taxes are unfairly low, you will note that neither of them pays one dime more than their accountants say they owe, and Buffett’s even more adamant about paying more. As with the President, look what he does rather than what he says.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Your customers have a choice? You mean if they want your product for free that’s OK with you?

            If you don’t pay your share of taxes, guess what happens? I have to chip in more to compensate for you! And if you really, really refuse — I have to pay for your new 8×10 home complete with cable TV and 3 tasty servings of slop per day. I’d rather you just pay your own bills, thank you very much.

            Why is it that the truly greedy worry so much about Warren Buffett? He has issues with back taxes, sure, but that doesn’t excuse anyone else. This is a favorite theme for people who want to do sleazy things: When you are confronted with the sleaziness, just point out somebody else who has done the same or similar thing and magically your sleaziness will disappear! Imagine a murder defendant using this clever ploy:

            Judge: You are charged with murder – how do you plead?

            Defendant: Your Honor, I am innocent by reason of somebody else also committing the same or similar crime.

            Judge: Oh, I see. OK, you can go home now — case dismissed.

            Why should Buffett or Gates pay MORE than what the IRS demands? That’s just stupid. Do you believe them to be stupid people, not nearly as clever or deserving as montanabill?

          • montanabill

            If I pay my legally required taxes and you judge it is not enough, then you don’t have to make up the difference. Get real.
            You are going off on a tangent again, re Buffett. The point was that if people like Buffett don’t feel like they are paying their fair share to ‘help the poor’ through government, then they can always pay more. Since they aren’t paying more, their words are hollow. They actually believe they can help more by donating directly.
            Since you have lots of concern for the poor that take help from the government, how about some concern for the 23 million Americans unemployed or under employed who need small business to get going again to provide the jobs needed to rebuild the middle class? That is going to require a change in direction.

      • jarheadgene

        MONTANABILL….HOW THE F**K would you even know who Howa4x and Redspin know? And your math is stupid. You are either rich…or you are stupid and being feed BS by the rich and believing it. Change your name to MUSHROOM BILL.

        • montanabill

          I’ll presume you have a computer, jarhead, use it to Google: “percentage of taxes paid by the rich”. Check out the National Taxpayers Union, U.S. News, USA Today articles among the many. Learn something.

      • howa4x

        Bill
        since the 1% control 95% of the wealth they are getting off easy paying 40% of the taxes

        • montanabill

          False argument, howa4x. While we mostly pay taxes on income, people who own things also continuously pay taxes on them. The more they own or the more it is valued, the greater the taxes. Some states tax intangible assets. We also have the death tax again. There are lots of taxes on things that 1%’ers have and it is generally the 1%’ers who created that wealth. The good thing about the U.S. is that if you want more wealth, this country still provides the opportunity to do something about it. (Although every year, new laws and new regulations make it harder.)
          Here is one more thought for you. Your vote counts exactly as much as the vote of one of the 1%. If they are paying 40% of the bill, shouldn’t their votes be worth 40% of votes cast?

    • Yes I remember her well. I have a friend who sold fur coats to her and her reputation was well deserved. I am not alone in believing that Mitt has something to hide and that he should release the damn tax records already!

  • dellmartin

    We don’t know how much, if any, he paid in taxes. The only way to know is for him to release his tax returns. He obviously feels it would be more harmful to disclose this information than to keep it secret, allowing everyone to speculate the worst. Mr. Romney – prove to us that you are an honest American who contributes to the success of our great nation! The longer you hide the truth, the worse it will be for you.

  • sheilab2

    Willard is the most secretive, the most arrogant, the most hostile candidate for President that we have ever had. Can you imagine how bad he would be in the White House? I am almost certain the reason he won’t release his tax returns is that he paid no taxes for years. That surely will delight those of us who do actually pay taxes. He has secreted money all over the world, hiding it from public view. The Roosevelts and the Kennedys were rich, but not arrogant and secretive. I don’t want this guy anywhere near the White House.

    • montanabill

      Just for grins, sheilab2, tell us how many tax returns Roosevelt and Kennedy released while running for the Presidency. P.S. Money in a U.S. bank is just as hidden from view as money in a Swiss bank account. Wise up.

      • highpckts

        Sorry Bill it won’t work!

        • montanabill

          Do you have an aversion to the truth?

      • hcsw1028

        BILL, which century are you living in?

        Wake-up, my brother!

        Tell me this though, why do persons open Swiss Bank Accounts?

        BILL, how many Swiss Bank Accounts do you have?

        • montanabill

          I have no foreign accounts because I don’t do business on foreign territory. If I did business in Europe, it is highly probable I would have a Swiss account. The laws have changed since Swiss accounts were so noted for their secrecy. If requested by the U.S. government, Swiss banks will reveal information regarding accounts of U.S. citizens. (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) Accounts are also opened by people as a hedge against U.S. bank failures.

      • William Deutschlander

        Did you just fall off your horse on your head again, seek medical help, or perhaps you are your own doctor as well as a miracle worker in the commercial venue.

        • montanabill

          It appears you find it easier to hurl insults rather than to either learn the truth or counter with factual information from reputable sources.

    • dljones

      Prove from the records archived by the IRS that Romney “did not pay taxes for years.” There are no laws to do other than the one return he produced.

      I can prove this economy remains in the tank: we have a record 8.1% -3 1/2 year consecutive unemployment rate: and jobs have not kept up, (not counting those that have given up and dropped out of the market) with those coming into the market: and, the most people on welfare and disability in history. What is remarkable, it will remain this way until election.

      Throwing darts at Romney will not undo the damage or in 184 days,change destiny.

      No criticism intended, just facts. Sorry, so much for your man’s one term proposition for ” hope and change.”

      • highpckts

        It takes a little time to correct ALL the damage done by the previous administration!!

        • dljones

          I am sure Romney is acutely aware of this.

        • montanabill

          That might be true only if the repair was actually going in the right direction instead of making things worse. Reported unemployment now 8.3%, real unemployment (U6) now 15%.

          • it is dummy look around you have to go to the bottom then work back up to gain anything you cant go half way and expect to fix it wake up

      • Maybe you were affected in a more financially positive way during the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy with this strong defense line for Romney concealing additional tax returns. Transparency is key.

        • dljones

          But Joyce, I completely understand your concern for truth and transparency. The conundrum is- a 95% chance your not going to vote for Romney if he produced the last 20 returns.

          The impediment of this administration to prosper is ignominious to the office. Why do you think nefarious attacks on Romney’s character are the taking points to bring wealth and peace to the citizens?

          For years, I have promoted the practice of voting for the best person in the two party system. Vote for who surfaces to the top, the acumen in your judgement that best serves you.

          I wish you well.

    • montanabill

      Obama has been more secretive and certainly more arrogant (take the word ‘I’ out of his speeches and they would be 50% shorter). In any case, if you have proof, you should most certainly report him to the IRS. That way, you would be a hero to the Democrats while earning yourself some reward money. However, if you don’t have proof, then you are simply a rumor monger trying to demonize someone who has lead an exemplary life! If you don’t like his politics, don’t vote for him, but make yourself look a little bigger by not repeating trashy slander.
      By the way, Roosevelt was extremely arrogant and he hid his physical condition from the voters to get re-elected. JFK also had his share of secrets. (think Clinton) This information is well documented.

  • John McCain has all Romney’s tax records from when he was vetted for VP. He knows if it’s true. Ask him..

  • greghilbert

    Reid said he had “no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy”.
    Obama said something similar (and “I know these guys”) about the banking cartel CEOs who paid themselves millions in bonuses out of bail-out funds after impoverishing millions.

    I have a problem with somebody being as wealthy as Romney and the banksters, both as to how they became that wealthy and how little they paid in taxes. I have a problem with the six Waltons who own Walmart having more wealth than the entire bottom 40% of all Americans. I have a problem with the ill-gotten and tax-dodging $21 TRILLION the super-rich have hidden offshore.

    I want leaders who not only have a problem with it, but condemn the collective fraud and merciless greed of the wealthy oligarchs — and their corruption of government and society — as a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

    I want the 99% organizing outside the corrupted Repub-Dem stranglehold, supporting Occupy, Avaaz, Coffee Party, Green Party, Independents and the few Progressive Dems who warrant support, and I personally think it time to start baring teeth.

    • ObozoMustGo

      greg…. You are an idiot! Not even a useful idiot. Just an idiot. Don’t you have an Occupy encampment you can go to so you can do drugs, rape girls, crap on cop cars, and burn businesses? Isn’t that was scumbags like you want? You’re a piece of crap, greg! Suggesting violence. Who the hell do you think you are? You hate America so much, I’ll be the first to take up a collection to get your filthy ass out of here!

      Go take a shower and find a job, will ya?… that is, if you can keep the needle out of your arm long enough! Or is it the bath salts you freaks are doing these days? Who cares.

      Have a nice high!

      “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
      the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
      its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
      — Winston Churchill

      • greghilbert

        Sieg Heil Herr Nazi Brownshirt Bozo Troll Clown!

        • Morpheus2k12

          That’s an insult to Nazis, clowns and trolls.

          This creep hates Obama not for any real policy reason obviously as the wealthy have done quite well sincehe took office. Other than the word sounds scary to ignorant Americans, this whole ‘socialism’ thing is just silly. Obama cares for the disenfranchised so he must be some scary socialist, yet Wall Street has enjoyed record growth in the worst economic climate since the Depression.

          These racist or ideologues or whatever the hell they are – bullies – from the right are paranoid, insane and really need to lay off the shake and bake meth and bath salts. Really.

          • greghilbert

            Morpheus, I agree as to Obama and as to Herr Nazi Brownshirt Bozo Troll Clown. Sometimes I think the latter should just be ignored because his form of illness feeds on the attention and delusion of power (and detracts attention from the subject at hand), and at other times I think it useful to see him display for all to see the role Nazi Brownshirt-types play in thug-saddist propagandizing and policing for the wealthy oligarchs.

        • ObozoMustGo

          scumbag greg… I’ll repost again….

          And for all of you leftist nutjobs out there who are incapable of simple thought, let’s review the basic meaning of the term ‘Nazi’…. NAZI is an acronym for National Socialist Party. Knowing that, which of our 2 parties is most likely to be a home to people who identify more closely with the ideas of socialism? Come on…. be h0nest… which one? That’s riiiiiiiiight… The DemocRATS are the party for socialists in America. In fact, it can be argued quite well that the old party called Democrat sould be called the Socialist Party in modern times. So, before all you leftist nutjobs start trying hurl the ‘Nazi” label around, remember what it REALLY means!

          Nazi = Socialist = DemocRAT

          You’re only casting dispersions on yourself, you stupid moron.

          Have a nice day!

          “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
          the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
          its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
          — Winston Churchill

          • greghilbert

            Mom, honest, that Brownshirt dolt has again said about me, in public:
            “You’re only casting DISPERSIONS on yourself, you stupid moron.”

            Sieg Heil Herr Nazi Brownshirt Bozo Troll Clown! Soon you shall earn your merit badge for distracting National Memo readers from the source of our funds, the wealthy oligarchs with whom we share power! — Herr Himmler III, Paymaster of the Merit Badge Sub-subcommittee of the Nazi Clowns for the Election of Herr Romney Subcommittee of the Committee on Uberepublican Nazi Brownshirts for the Worship of Wealthy Oligarchs

          • Now that you have decoded the acronym, try in depth study of the nazi party. They were anything but socialist. They were fascist. An fascist is as far right as you can get. The extreme for far left is communism. Communism and Socialism are not the same thing.

            Do you think we should outlaw the Democratic Party?

            Pre-hitler Germany had a Democracy. Hitler destroyed it. He took over one party and turned it into the nazi party. Just because the name has socialist in it, does not mean it was a socialist party. It was the opposite.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mags… you need to revisit your political history fact book. You have been mislead as all leftist nutjobs and useful idiots have been mislead. All the way to the right is no government at all, called anarchy. All the way to the left is 100% government, complete government control, called communism, socialism, nazism, fascism, etc. Pure democracy is to the left of republican government which is the left of anarchy. This is what we have and on that continuum between far left and far right, republicanism is squarely center right.

            The 5 basic forms of government from left to right are:

            1) Monarchy – rule by one – only in appearance, they have their bureaucrats and cabinets etc. etc.
            2) Oligarchy – rule by a few – tyranny of the elite – communism, socialism, nazism, fascism all find their home here.
            3) Democracy – rule by majority – these never survive, the devolve to anarchy and then oligarchy
            4) Republic – rule by law – what we have, or are supposed to have.
            5) Anarchy – rule by no one

            So you see, Mags, when you look at this objectively, you realize that Nazism IS, in all facts, actually HIGHLY correlated with socialism and communism. And your attempts to convince people that the word “socialism” in the Nazi acronym is just there by accident or doesn’t really mean what it means is nothing more than a perpetuation of lies and complete ignorance of the very facts that slap you in the face because they are quite simply self-evident. You should try not to remain so ignorant. Words mean what they mean. Nazi equals National Socialist. DemocRATS in America are home to socialists.

            Nazi = socialists = DemocRATS

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Maggie – the Democrat Party was a pretty good Part at one time as well.

  • Landsende

    Why isn’t Donald Trump demanding Romney release his tax returns since he’s soooo interested in getting to the truth. Oh wait, then he might have to show his tax returns and we could see he and Romney are birds of a feather. If Romney has nothing to hide all he has to do is release his returns.

  • TheOldNorthChurch

    Has Harry paid all his taxes? I am sure many of his donors paid the same Tax Rate as Romney. I am sure many of Obama’s donors are in the same camp.

    If Romney paid little taxes (Still in the Millions of Dollars range) then the tax code is to blame. Even if the rates are increased doesn’t mean any added taxes will be paid. What we need is Tax Code reform that eliminates all corporate and Individual welfare from the Tax Code. Then it will be fair to all Americans.

    Time to Stop the Poliaristocray in this country. End the Political Class and we will be headed toward Freedom and Liberty once more.

    Revolution 2012 “The American Fall”

    • jarheadgene

      Wait does that mean you’re a TEA BAGGER…because they are way out to lunch.

      • TheOldNorthChurch

        No, what it means is I am very well informed.

        Do you know where your money is being spent? Do you know how many businesses there are in the US and what there sizes are? How many budget proposals were sponsored by the Roosevelt Institute? or are you just a follower?

        • highpckts

          Do you??

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Absolutely:
            Federal spending has increased 59% over the rate of inflation since 2000. Four spending categories; National Security, Medicare and Social Security and Interest on the National Debt amount to over 66% of all expenditures. By 2016 these will equal 77%.

            In 2006 there were 6,022,127 private businesses in the USA. These firms had payrolls and employed 119,917,000. The non-institutional employed workforce for 2006 was 144,427,000. The difference is sole proprietors with no payrolls.

            Of the 6 million plus firms 5.4 million of the firms had 20 or fewer employees. These are exempt from a majority of the labor laws except wage and holiday rules. Another 0.5 million are under 100 employees and a total of 6.0 million are under 500. These are the small businesses in America. This is an important fact as Small businesses and Sole Proprietors employee 84,733,000 or 59% of the non-tax funded workforce. They are also predominately privately held corporations and by there State Corporate Charters are restricted from having foreign stockholders.

            There were five proposals in the Roosevelt Study, only one met the objective set. There have been fifteen proposals since 2009, yet none of the Political Class have shown fiscal responsibility including the President.

          • jarheadgene

            That is all great information…..BUT ROMNEY will not FIX any of it. He will return us to CHENEY Greed land.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            I am not a Bush supporter. Bush was just another member of the Poliaristocray with an R after his name. All of the rules put into place have not prevented Greed. What needs to be done is go back to being Free.

            Return to less regulation by a Central Government and put controls in the hands of people closer to you.

            Forget about the rich. There will always be rich people. Think about yourself and you family. Are you as Free as you were 20 years ago? I know I am not.

          • No regulation would be the ideal. No FDA, no need for police, no EPA, no FBI, no CIA, no banking regulations, no need for courts, no need for traffic signals, speed signs, etc. However, since some people are only honest if they are forced to be honest, we need regulations. In 2001 regulations were eased on banking. This and tax breaks led to the economic meltdown.

            I don’t want what rich people have. I want them to pay thier fair share of taxes. Romney paid 13.9% on what he made on the return he did file. The average wage-earner pays 31%. The wage earner cannot deduct the gasoline it takes to get to work to make those wages. He cannot deduct the cost of a vehicle or maintenance on that vehicle. There are many tax breaks for those at the top that are not enjoyed by those in the middle.

            When the second man came on earth, 50% less belonged to the first man. When we have the population we have now, of course we have less freedom. In order for civilization to survive, we have to have give and take and unfortunately, for many, that has to be legislated.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Maggie banking regulations were eased in 1999 not 2001;

            By the time the affiliation restrictions in the Glass–Steagall Act were repealed through the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999 by President Bill Clinton, many commentators argued Glass-Steagall was already “dead.” Most notably, Citibank’s 1998 affiliation with Salomon Smith Barney, one of the largest US securities firms, was permitted under the Federal Reserve Board’s then existing interpretation of the Glass-Steagall Act. Clinton publicly declared, “The Glass-Steagall Act is no longer relevant.”

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            I am not talking about no regulation, but we have crossed over the balance point.

            Also the Banking regulation was enacted in 1999, with repeal of Glass-Steagall.

          • You can find something on the internet to re-inforce any belief system. However, Social Security has a 5 1/2 trillion trust fund that has been paid for by taxpayers. Out of that, comes Medicare and seniors pay a monthly premium on their medicare. Money was borrowed from the Social Security trust fund to finance a couple of wars that were not paid for. This money is supposed to be paid back at 4% interest. It is not paid back yet. Medicaid, which is welfare, comes out of Social Security.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            Maggie,
            They are censoring my comment, but it has valuable information from the 2012 Trustee Report. Maybe they will let you see it.

        • jarheadgene

          I don’t know much, but I do know the difference between there and their. But go ahead please inform me about everything else.

          • TheOldNorthChurch

            You pasted the test. Must have been more than PFC.

  • ObozoMustGo

    I have more proof that Obozo is gay than Dingy Harry Reid has that Romney hasn’t paid his taxes. I know. I got a call from someone that said he went to Occidental College with him. Also, Google “Larry Sinclair and Obama”.

    [click image to enlarge]

    Have a nice day!

    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
    the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
    its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
    — Winston Churchill

    • old_blu

      Hey Bozo, Do you think being gay is a bad thing? There are many ways to be racist.

      • ObozoMustGo

        It’s my boy Blu! What up Blu? I hope you are well.

        You leftist kooks somehow seem to buy the strawman argument that if a person supports traditional marriage as one man, one women, that must mean that they therefore “hate gays”. It’s a complete logical fallacy and a game that you crackpots of the left constantly play. Another example of this is “if one does not support Obozo, then they must be racist”. Both are so juvenile and immature that they are both laughable and sad that grown adults are so stupid that they buy this crap. You should be ashamed of yourself, Blu!

        Re: Obozo being gay. No, I don’t hate gay people. In fact, I don’t care what you or anyone else do in your bedrooms. And I don’t evaluate people based upon their sexual preferences. I do so based on the content of their character as best as I am able to tell. You guys on the left, on the other hand, do evaluate people based upon the Holy Trinity of the Left: Race, Gender, and Class. It’s so sad. So many stupid people. So little time to change them.

        Have a nice day!

        “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
        the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
        its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
        — Winston Churchill

      • ObozoMustGo

        One other point, Blu. My post and picture are there to support my the fact that I have more evidence for my claim of Obozo’s sexuality than Harry Ried has of Mitt Romney’s taxes. So why is a liar like Harry Ried given the airtime? Because The Memo and the rest of the media are in the tank for Obozo. That’s why.

        Have a nice day, Blu!

        “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
        the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
        its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
        — Winston Churchill

        • WhutHeSaid

          Bozo, tsk, tsk — out here whoring around for the Koch Brothers again? I see the ‘evil socialists’ have been hiding in your closet.

          Look, we know full well when people are just plain old bigots. You don’t even have to put on your pointy hat.

          Once again, here is the standardized bigot test: Name one thing that President Obama has done to help the USA.

          Good luck!

          • ObozoMustGo

            what… Obozo ordered the killing of Bin Laden. That’s it! And he’s so brave, he did it against the orders of Valerie Jarrett.

            I’ll take you a step further… answer this question: Who would I vote for? A black conservative or a white liberal?

            Come on, answer the question…. I’m waiting…

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • WhutHeSaid

            Haha – I can imagine how much that must have hurt you!

            The answer to your question is ‘I don’t know’. I would be more likely to vote for the one who is closest to the middle of the ideological spectrum. I don’t care about the color of his/her skin. If the liberal was more extreme, I’d probably vote for the conservative. If the conservative was too extreme, the liberal. If they were close I’d go by my gut instincts.

          • ObozoMustGo

            what… your avoiding giving an answer because you know to do so would prove your thesis of racism flat out wrong!! You and all the other useful idiots and leftist freaks throw the race card around so much that you don’t have a clue what the hell it means anymore.

            Nice try, but not buyin it, loser!

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • WhutHeSaid

            I answered the question, numb-nuts. Do you have trouble reading with comprehension or is it that you just didn’t like the answer?

          • ObozoMustGo

            what… you didn’t answer the question. You straddled both sides so as to avoid being proven the fool. You’re trying to be too clever by half, you dope! hahahahaha

            Answer the question: who would I vote for? A black conservative, or a white liberal? Come on. Pick one. Be honest. I know that’s hard for leftist freaks, but do try.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • WhutHeSaid

            Hey nimrod, I said ‘I don’t know’ who YOU would vote for. I assume that you would vote for whomever supported the most bigoted policies no matter their color. And yes, black bigots do exist. I told you who I would vote for. I suppose that you will try to excuse your pointy hat by proclaiming that there is a minority somewhere that also wears a pointy hat. It just doesn’t work, sorry.

            Listen, I ‘m always amazed at the wild gyrations that bigots and greedy people perform in order to try to convince others they are something other than bigots or greedy people. Why waste all that energy? I mean, wouldn’t you have more time to hate on the black man in the White House if you just dropped your pretenses and took pride in yourself? I’m very interested to hear you explain what a bigot or greedy person hopes to gain by denying that they are a bigot or greedy person. How about a little help here — please explain the logic behind this phenomenon.

          • ObozoMustGo

            So, if someone doesn’t agree with you or support Obozo, they are racists or bigots and greedy?

            Is that you’re big stab at logic? What a fool!

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • WhutHeSaid

            Honestly, I’d really like to know why bigots just don’t boldly ‘fly their colors’. What can possibly be achieved by attempting to hide it? It’s not like it’s illegal or anything. Can’t you help us out and explain the reasoning? Think of it as a contribution to education. You do believe in education, right?

          • ObozoMustGo

            what… So, if someone doesn’t agree with you or support Obozo, they are racists or bigots and greedy? Is that you’re big stab at logic? What a fool!

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • Pot, kettle. If someone doesn’t agree with you they are nutjobs?

          • ObozoMustGo

            Maggie… as a matter of fact, yes. If I meet someone from New York City, I refer to them as a “New Yorker.” That doesn’t make me a hypocrite. It’s just the truth. And so it is with those poor souls that have bought off on, and have been duped by, the lies of the radicals and socialists who control the DemocRATic party. What makes one a “leftist nutjob” is an intractable resistance to remove one’s head from one’s own butt! If you are more socially liberal and fiscally conservative, then you are a libertarian (small L). I actually believe the vast majority of Americans are libertarian in their personal lives and views, but tend to gravitate toward whichever party that appeals to the most important on their list of views in their own personal hierarchy.

            Have a nice day, Maggie!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • We have had Republican Presidents. We have had Democrat presidents. Most of them had some respect from both parties. This president has been treated with more hostility, from day one, than any other president. One superintendant of schools refuse to pay his message to the school kids. Like the little boy who passes gas in the lunchroom, he actually thought he was cute.

            There is one difference in President Obama and the prededing presidents. So you go figure.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mags… your mind works like a well oiled crack smoking machine!

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • You wouldn’t vote. I see you as a person from a small rural community. Your parents were conservative. You don’t want anyone confusing you with facts as your mind is made up.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mags… it really is funny watching you leftist nutjobs and useful idiots squirm when your theory of “racism” is challenged and you cannot answer the question because to do so would contradict yourself and your long held fool’s belief that anyone who disagrees with you or is a conservative and does not support Obozo MUST be a racist.

            Too bad. Don’t be so ignorant and intolerant Mags.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • As i explained above, I am neither a rightist or a leftist. Speaking of nut jobs, how about Michelle Bauchman?

          • ObozoMustGo

            Maggie… you need to reexamine what leftist means. Your posts certainly indicate that you are most definitely a lefist. And Michele Bachmann is one of the absolute best members of Congress there is. She is committed to Constitutionally limited government and is not swayed off her principles by either her own party or public opinion. I wish we had 534 other members of Congress and Senate just like her.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

        • That picture did not look like irrefutible proof to me. I have gay friends and they are above average in intelligence.

          Harry Reid did not say he had proof that Mitt Romney did not pay taxes for 10 years. He said a former Romney advisor told him that and that he did not have proof. So difference from the radical right.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mags…. of course Harry didn’t say he has proof because HE DOESN’T HAVE PROOF! If he did, he would be a felon for having broke the law.

            Harry Reid is a pathetic piece of crap of a human. An absolute LIAR! And you leftist freaks love that scumbag!

            The picture of Obozo is with a gay man and they are waaaayyyyy to close to be thinking they’re just “buddies”. Google “Larry Sinclair and Obama’ and you’ll see more stuff with modern day accusations of drug use and homosexual clubs than you care to lo0k at with personal interviews.

            I don’t actually care what Obozo does in his bedroom. I merely point this out to juxtapose the Harry Ried claim with another claim that has WAAAAAYYYY more evidence to back it up. That’s all.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • Guess what? I am apolitical. That means I do not believe in any political party. Washington, Jefferson and Madison were against political parties and only joined one because they were almost forced to. Madison said that political parties would create division and chaos. That is what has happened. If someone does not belong to your party then everything they do is wrong.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mags… I agree with you on the “party” thing. Read Washington’s farewell address. It’s like he’s reaching into the future to warn us today.

            And you are dead wrong about me and party loyalty. I have none. It’s the system we have, however, and Constitutional conservatives/libertarians tend to find a home in the Republican party just like the radicals and socialists find a home in the DemocRAT party. Believe me, no one is more happy to see the parade of establishment Republicans being thrown out in their own primaries. I like the change that is happening to the party. As well, if a Democrat candidate espoused views that suggested they support Constitutionally limited government, fiscal sanity, individual responsibility, and free market economics, they would get my money and my support. I am waiting for that candidate to pop up. Not holding my breath, though.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

    • It is ironic that some Bible thumping Chrisitans think nothing of breaking a commandment and the Bible says if you break one of the Ten Commandments, you break them all.

      It does not say, “Thou shalt not lie.” It says, “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” If you repeat false statements, that is bearing false witness.

      This vitriolic division along party lines is the problem.

  • Madden what is troubling and disappointing is that you are saying so instead of getting out the truth You are an accomplice to wrongs and deceit . Get the taxes out, transparency is essential to a mans character

  • ace

    From a guy that has never done any thing legal in his life this guy is as corrupt as any one can get he has sold us all down the river.

  • howa4x

    bill it matter little who we vote for because they still control things. They have far more infulence on what the congress does than you or I do. Lobbists for them write most of the legislation. They get the Fed to lend them money everyday at 0% and they lend it out at 3-4%. they get preferrential treatment at tax time and like your hero Romney get to hide money outside the country.There is an estimate that 21 trillion lies outside our borders. They were the ones that shipped 2.9 million jobs to China , and are currently sitting on billions and not hiring. I went to a conference at a major defense contractor and their VP said they were sitting on over 50 billion in cash, and not hiring. the 1% lead us into war for their profit, like Iraq. So you can be their lap dog and blow their trumpet and can them job creators when they are not. I on the other hand wouldn’t give them one new tax break unless they start employing people. And don’t blame it on Obama. Sice he has been in office he has extended their tax cuts

  • BozoMustgo2

    What is Willard hiding or running from? I would posit he has skeletons in the closet that must remain there or he would not be so adamant about releasing his tax returns for more than two years.

  • Sheilab2:

    Do you think the American People are finally, “getting it?” Living in Michigan; one thing is certain – – Mitt is nothing like his Dad. Dad was a Worker, while Son was kinda of a light-heart’ed, easy going, person, that did not seem to take things too seriously. However, he was clever enough to trade on this Father’s name and reputation. He certainly had every privilege in the World. Question is: did he ever make an honest dollar; or, were the skids always greased for quick and easy money? The Bain Capital debacle doesn’t do much for his image.

    The Comment that Harry Reid is shocking, really! Yet, when you consider that the Man has several off-shore Accounts; it seems that the charge could be plausible. Imagine! Using his influence to avoid paying taxes for 10 years; he will have to release his Tax Returns now, one would think.

    Inquiring Minds want to know: What is this Man Hiding?

  • After reading all of the posts below, one wonders why people are so willing to excuse bad, and often times, illegal behavior? Yet, when you consider that the Rich – – which is largely comprised of the Financial Sector of the Nation’s Economy – – have NOT PRODUCED ANYTHING! that has been good or useful for the Economy; Romney may come by his Behavior, naturally.

    Joseph Stiglitz, in his Book, “The Price of Inequality,” refers to those people who spend their time – – not producing – – but devising schemes to extract wealth from others; as Rent Seekers.
    They lie, cheat, steal, and influence their way to the Top. Look what the Big Banksters have done to the Country? By now, everyone knows that the Crash of 2008, has been called, “The Great Wall Street Heist;” and, “An Inside Job.” Read the Books – – see the Movies. Whistle Blowers have literally, been coming out of the Woodwork. The Tally for exercising the Nuclear Option – – as Warren Buffet, likes to call it (use of fraudulent sub-prime loans, CDS, and the nasty Derivatives), fleeced Middle America out of $10 Trillion Dollars!

    Consider this: If the Poor don’t have any money; and, the Middle Class has been hollowed out – – having lost their jobs, homes, cars, retirement savings; AND, the Government is literally, “Broke;” kept on life support by the Fed; WHO HAS THE MONEY AND WEALTH IN THIS COUNTRY? It’s not Rocket Science, Folks!

    America can’t afford to put a Predatory, or Vulture Capitalist in the White House.

    • AnsonMac

      Amen. And the worst part of this is that the very people, like me, who desperately need a new, different… and slightly socialist / unionistic / employee owned economic paradigm are STILL convinced that trickle down economics is the way to go…. especially when they look at politicos by their “values”and “moorals”

      I first heard about socialism (the big baddie) from a Jesuit Monk in the80s… when I met him in a campground

      He said socialism got a bad rap because of hitler and lennin. They stole the words and ideas and perverted them like romans perverted christianity… tto get themselves more power… TRUE socialism is exemplified (but still not perfected) in the Mondragon corporation(s)
      True socialism is perfedt democracy

      Capitalism barely works, and only when the masses have strict regulations to reign in the WORST EXCESSES of human natujre…capitalism ENCOURAGES (his words) the worst sin… idolatry of money

  • Romney Didn’t Pay Any Taxes For Ten Years What a crook republicans shame on you retards

  • How can word o mouth clean up mitt of the accusation, if he believed that is a false accusation he should release if Tax. also mentioning his father is not stp too far,senator did not accused his father of any wrong doing but truth is bitter, he said his father will be ashame of him as mitt never follow his foot step of his examples, so what is wrong with that. i think the government should have right to check their back ground befor econtesting.

  • overpaidCS

    This is the same guy that has yet to claim the Indian Casinos that are paying for his 5 star hotel in DC as income.

  • William Deutschlander

    If I did not have anything that would embarass me, or worse, why on earth would I wish to hide the proof? I would put it out in public and get on with life.

  • Mr. Romney should prove to the American people that he is in fact a tax paying citizen of the United States of America. Prove that he also sacrifice to our economy. Produce at least 10 years of his tax returns, if not he should never be the leader of our great nation.

  • LadyDeb

    Mitt all you have to do is show your taxes. Whats the big deal if he has nothing to hide. You people have seen all you need to see. The Dems. (rommey said), will find things to bring up if he releases them. If he has nothing to hide then show it. Reid may have not did it the right way, but we the people have a right to know. If this was Obama the right would never let him get away with it.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Deb… are you equally curious why Obozo has NOT released ANY of his academic records? What’s he hiding? Did he get foreign student aid or scholorships? Did he write rabid anit-American papers and espouse radical socialist philosophies? Did he get horrible grades? What’s he hiding? All the others released their academic records. Why doesn’t Obozo?

      Have a nice day!

  • imabrummie

    We could go on for days and days speculating about whether or not Mr. Bendyboots and his like have or have not paid taxes for the past ten years or whatever. The main point should surely be whether or not Bush the Brainless’ tax giveaways to the rich have actually done what they claim to have done, i.e. the trickle-down theory of job creation. Fact is the one percenters are still the beneficiaries of the country’s largesse yet the unemployment statistics are horrendous. That in itself should tell us that giveaways to the rich do NOT, repeat NOT produce jobs for those among the 99% who actually want to work!

    • ObozoMustGo

      ima…… are you equally curious why Obozo has NOT released ANY of his academic records? What’s he hiding? Did he get foreign student aid or scholorships? Did he write rabid anit-American papers and espouse radical socialist philosophies? Did he get horrible grades? What’s he hiding? All the others released their academic records. Why doesn’t Obozo?

      Have a nice day!

  • WhutHeSaid

    “I pay my legally required taxes”. Sounds familiar.

    Mr. Buffett and Mr. Gates know that one or two billionaires paying their fair share is not enough to make much of a difference. In addition to that, it wouldn’t be fair for other billionaires to get off scott free. That’s what they realize that you don’t appear capable of understanding: After decades of making a financial killing, it’s high time for the high income earners to chip in to help the economy of this country — FIRST. They can most afford it, and have been the biggest beneficiaries of tax cuts and breaks over the last 30 years. Anything else is just greed, sometimes with profuse lying thrown in to try to mask the greed.

    Stop lying. The ‘change in direction’ you speak of is to return to Bush economic policies that once again pamper the wealthy. Small business isn’t being done any favors by pampering the uber-rich — like big oil. Small business can’t compete with the Koch Brothers. The ‘small business’ cloak is just another lie used by the greedy to evade taxes. Do you claim that you are a ‘small business’?

    • ObozoMustGo

      what….. are you equally curious why Obozo has NOT released ANY of his academic records? What’s he hiding? Did he get foreign student aid or scholorships? Did he write rabid anit-American papers and espouse radical socialist philosophies? Did he get horrible grades? What’s he hiding? All the others released their academic records. Why doesn’t Obozo?

      Have a nice day!

      • WhutHeSaid

        I see that you are sporting your pointy hat today.

        Name the other presidents who have released their college transcripts to the public during their election campaigns.

        You and other pointy-hat types are doing your level best to advance your bigoted views (after all, how can a black man actually become President), but nobody is buying except other bigots. Sorry ’bout your luck.

        • ObozoMustGo

          what… I think I smell the rancid odor of MAJOR HYPOCRISY!

          Have a nice day!

          • WhutHeSaid

            You must be pretty accustomed to that smell by now — I’m surprised you even notice.

            Where is the answer to the question? – Name the other presidents who have released their college transcripts to the public during their election campaigns.

            What’s the matter — bad case of ‘foot-in-mouth’ syndrome?

          • ObozoMustGo

            what…. With your caveat of “during the election”, the answer is I don’t think any others have “during their election”. However, I think Bush had his records leaked to the public, and took no reprisal. I think Clinton released his willingly, but can’t remember that far back precisely. Unfortunately, no other president has had so much legitimate concern over his past as Obozo. And the question over his birth place was started by Hillary Rotenham Clinton in the primaries. It’s still a legitimate question. Obozo has gone by numerous names. Barry Soetoro was one of those. It’s the seriousness of the charges and the seeming justification for them that makes requesting Obozo’s academic records a perfectly legitimate and fair request.

            By the way, there is NO requirement for candiates for president to show their tax returns, either.

            Have a nice day!

            Thomas Jefferson: “When the Government fears the people, there is Liberty.”

      • Bait and switch won’t work. Try to stay on topic.

  • Lead_Dog

    Consider: Mr Reid made a remark that has no backup. Some unknown person told Harry at someplace, some time or another this story. Also, there is no law stating a person has to show tax returns to run for President of the US. Unsubstantiated charges made while hiding behind the Senate curtain of immunity is less than honorable.

  • ObozoMustGo

    DISTRACTIONS…….. All this flack about Romney’s taxes is nothing more than a distraction to keep us from focusing on the real problems in America…. Obozo and the abject failure that he is.

    I’ve been saying this for at least a month. Now it’s hitting mainstream. Romney releases tax returns when Obozo releases FULL academic records including admissions applications, papers, classes he took, and scholarships that he used.

    Hat tip, Wayne Allen Root, courtesy of The Blaze:

    I am President Obama’s classmate at Columbia University, Class of ’83. I am also one of the most accurate Las Vegas oddsmakers and prognosticators. Accurate enough that I was awarded my own star on the Las Vegas Walk of Stars. And I smell something rotten in Denmark. Obama has a big skeleton in his closet. It’s his college records. Call it “gut instinct” but my gut is almost always right. Obama has a secret hidden at Columbia- and it’s a bad one that threatens to bring down his presidency. Gut instinct is how I’ve made my living for 29 years since graduating Columbia.

    Obama and his infamous strategist David Axelrod understand how to play political hardball, the best it’s ever been played. Team Obama has decided to distract America’s voters by condemning Mitt Romney for not releasing enough years of his tax returns. It’s the perfect cover. Obama knows the best defense is a bold offense. Just keep attacking Mitt and blaming him for secrecy and evasion, while accusing him of having a scandal that doesn’t exist. Then ask followers like Senator Harry Reid to chase the lead. The U.S. Senate Majority Leader appears to now be making up stories out of thin air, about tax returns he knows nothing about. It’s a cynical, brilliant, and vicious strategy. Make Romney defend, so he can’t attack the real Obama scandal.

    This is classic Axelrod. Obama has won several elections in his career by slandering his opponents and leaking sealed documents. Not only do these insinuations and leaks ruin the credibility and reputation of Obama’s opponents, they keep them on the defensive and off Obama’s trail of sealed documents.

    By attacking Romney’s tax records, Obama’s socialist cabal creates a problem that doesn’t exist. Is the U.S. Senate Majority Leader making up stories out of thin air? You decide. But the reason for this baseless attack is clear- make Romney defend, so not only is he “off message” but it helps the media ignore the real Obama scandal.

    My answer for Romney? Call Obama’s bluff.

    Romney should call a press conference and issue a challenge in front of the nation. He should agree to release more of his tax returns, only if Obama unseals his college records. Simple and straight-forward. Mitt should ask “What could possibly be so embarrassing in your college records from 29 years ago that you are afraid to let America’s voters see? If it’s THAT bad, maybe it’s something the voters ought to see.” Suddenly the tables are turned. Now Obama is on the defensive.

    My bet is that Obama will never unseal his records because they contain information that could destroy his chances for re-election. Once this challenge is made public, my prediction is you’ll never hear about Mitt’s tax returns ever again.

    Why are the college records, of a 51-year-old President of the United States, so important to keep secret? I think I know the answer.

    If anyone should have questions about Obama’s record at Columbia University, it’s me. We both graduated (according to Obama) Columbia University, Class of ’83. We were both (according to Obama) Pre-Law and Political Science majors. And I thought I knew most everyone at Columbia. I certainly thought I’d heard of all of my fellow Political Science majors. But not Obama (or as he was known then- Barry Soetoro). I never met him. Never saw him. Never even heard of him. And none of the classmates that I knew at Columbia have ever met him, saw him, or heard of him.

    But don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported in 2008 that Fox News randomly called 400 of our Columbia classmates and never found one who had ever met Obama.

    Now all of this mystery could be easily and instantly dismissed if Obama released his Columbia transcripts to the media. But even after serving as President for 3 1/2 years he refuses to unseal his college records. Shouldn’t the media be as relentless in pursuit of Obama’s records as Romney’s? Shouldn’t they be digging into Obama’s past–beyond what he has written about himself–with the same boundless enthusiasm as Mitt’s?

    The first question I’d ask is, if you had great grades, why would you seal your records? So let’s assume Obama got poor grades. Why not release the records? He’s president of the free world, for gosh sakes. He’s commander-in-chief of the U.S. military. Who’d care about some poor grades from three decades ago, right? So then what’s the problem? Doesn’t that make the media suspicious? Something doesn’t add up.

    Secondly, if he had poor grades at Occidental, how did he get admitted to an Ivy League university in the first place? And if his grades at Columbia were awful, how’d he ever get into Harvard Law School? So again those grades must have been great, right? So why spend millions to keep them sealed?

    Third, how did Obama pay for all these fancy schools without coming from a wealthy background? If he had student loans or scholarships, would he not have to maintain good grades?

    I can only think of one answer that would explain this mystery.

    Here’s my gut belief: Obama got a leg up by being admitted to both Occidental and Columbia as a foreign exchange student. He was raised as a young boy in Indonesia. But did his mother ever change him back to a U.S. citizen? When he returned to live with his grandparents in Hawaii or as he neared college-age preparing to apply to schools, did he ever change his citizenship back? I’m betting not.

    If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

    A) He rarely ever attended class.

    B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

    C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

    D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

    If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

    If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

    It’s time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obama’s bluff.

    Have a nice day!