Comments on: Let’s Consider The GOP’s Health Care Plan

By: onedonewong

onedonewong — Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:50:00 +0000

2 degrees in poli sci explains your inability to do any research on the topic. Lets just take 1 example Baraks illegal aunties in Boston, not only was she on medicaid but welfare and housing assistance before he intervened and forced INS to grant her a green card.
I do agree with your point about obamacare reducing Medicare by $10 B it reduces it by $100B.
W had a rubber stamp congress??? Hmm does poli sci cover politics?? Must not since the during W’s term in office the Senate was controlled by Dem’s for 4 of his 8 years.
He hasn’t changed the constitution? Then what do you call the auto companies take over? He took existing bankruptcy law and bond holders who are 1st of the list of creditors eliminated them from the equation. That’s a taking and is prevented under the constitution. His bank bail out that required banks to turn over a share of their company whether they wanted to do or not also is against the constitution.
Barak and holder have redefined the patriot act allowing them to imprisonment American Citizens indefinitely with no charges ala Hitler.
The framers wrote a living constitution reallly what poli sci book did that come from??

By: politicalhack1

politicalhack1 — Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:25:00 +0000

Discussing this with you is like discussing it with a closed door. I dont have two degrees in political science and a second in economics for nothing. I have gleened a little information over the years. Medicaid does not, nor has ever, covered illegals over the country. If that were so, then hospitals would donate nothing.   The two statements are contrary with each other. The only persons of immigrant blood covered by Medicaid are the 14th ammendment citizens, the sons and daughters of illegal immigrants born in this country.   This is a lie spread by the billionaire media machines of the Koch Brothers and the like. Much like their story that the ACA reduces Medicare benefits by 10b…….that is totally laughable.
Obama is a professor of constitutional law, and unlike presidents before him, has kept a pretty tight ship. For instance, presidents have used the Signing Statement to get around the line item veto made unconstitutional by the law. These signing statements are like saying “I approve of this law, but this part does not apply to me.” (I was of the opinion that a nation of laws saw all of its citizens, even its President, as never above the law.) Used primarily in financial matters, GW Bush was the first to use them in a policy venue and at 2/3s of his tenure had used over 600 of them, more than all other presidents before him. (that was especially upsetting because for the first six years of his presidency, Bush had a “rubber-stamp” Congress. Obama has issued none.   Presidents have issued executive orders in varying quantity. Obama has only used it once. He has not changed the constitution. No president can change the constitution, it can only be changed, in interpretation by the Supreme Court, and by addition, by the Congress, as ratified by the states. He does have leeway insofar as placing priorities on the enforcement of mandates…This is unusual, it was only used by Reagan, GHW Busch, Clinton, GWBush, and many other presidents before him. Also, maybe you could enlighten me as to the “hitler-style patriot revisions that congress never approved” Methinks you have watched too much of the FNC.
Finally, a little information for you, whether you take it or not. The framers showed their foresight by writing a “Living constitution” …   They realized that things would change.(Jefferson even spoke of changes to the society after about 200 years in his letters to John Adams) They got us started by writing the first ten ammendments to the constitution, thus saying the constitution, as ammended, is the law of the land.    Not that constitution, short of the ammendments, is the law of the land.
Its not that I dont agree with you, in part, about the immigration issue. However we should not blame the immigrants. We should blame our government for not enforcing the laws, and both parties share the blame for making immigration reform into a political football, in a game that has gone on for the last thirty years!

By: overpaidCS

overpaidCS — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:53:00 +0000

So your saying that if your father robs a bank and buries the money then you should be allowed to spend it because its not your fault????
Medicaid covers millions illegals all over the US currently and then the billions of charity that hospitals have to donate.
Would I go back to the 1784 no because there have been amendments to the constitution. Short of the amendments the constitution should be the law of the land. Unfortunately with Barak in office he has turned it into nothing but a dam piece of paper, from rewriting the countries bankruptcy laws, to immigration and his selective enforcement of laws enacted by congress. Not to mention his Hitler style patriot revisions that congress never approved

By: politicalhack1

politicalhack1 — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:59:00 +0000

Obviously you were not watching the proceedings on Cspan, or havnt a clue as to what was going on. The republicans, upholding their obstructionist pledge, agreed upon on inauguration day. Went through with delay tactics by participating fully in committee, then when the entire bill went to the floor, used the parliamentiary rule of filibuster to try to stop it. This was even more ridiculous since the bill was almost a verbatim copy of the republican alternative that came out of the Heritage society to Clinton’s single payer initiative. This program was then written by the Massachusettes State Legisture and signed by none other than Mitt Romney. The Democrats had to get into a lockstep mode to counter the overt obstructionism of the Republicans

By: politicalhack1

politicalhack1 — Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:42:00 +0000

The subject is healthcare, not immigration. And we shouldnt blame the people that came here, how about our government for not enforcing the laws we have and making comprehensive immigration reform into a political football. The ACA does not mandate health care for illegals. They cannot belong to any of the exchanges, since they are not citizens. Also, it is doubtful that they would qualify for general state fund payment for hospitalization. Their ownly welfare is through membership in special clinics, which are based on sliding scale membership…..the income of anyone is considered, regardless of the source or their citizenship status. Children born in the United States are fourteenth ammendment citizens are eligible for medicaid, and should be. However, I have a feeling that you are a bedrock states rightist, and will probably find anything to fight with about the constitution. You probably are one of those “strict constitutionalists” that would go back to 1784, when many of the framers felt that
black men were roughly equivalent to 3/8s of a human being. And I seriously feel that you probably find nothing wrong with that

By: montanabill

montanabill — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:52:00 +0000

You are right Dave, my premiums for my employees have been continuously rising, but not at the 18% they did this year. Until this year, I have eaten those premium increases because my business had been able to keep up with them thanks to great employees. Now that the President has absolutely killed the economy and has only one idea, throw money at the government, I will be faced with either making drastic changes to our participation in employee and family insurance, or simply electing to save significant money by telling them they are on their own and paying the penalty.
I will blame the swindlers and I will blame the trial lawyers. Any plan that didn’t include tort reform is not a plan that will ever reduce costs, and 2500 pages of new agencies, requirements, taxes and regulations isn’t going to do anything but raise the cost of health care.

By: montanabill

montanabill — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 00:45:00 +0000

No more votes huh? Are you afraid that something bi-partisan might actually happen concerning health care?
Maybe Mitch McConnell said his priority was to make Obama a one term President, but Obama is the one that is actually going to make it happen because he has absolutely no clue how to revive our economy, which would have been on the way to recovery if he had done absolutely nothing! But his ego wouldn’t let him do that, even though he had no experience, no training and no qualified advisors.

By: Dave_dido

Dave_dido — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:08:00 +0000

If the Affordable Care Act causes your group health premium to go up, you can do exactly what was done before the AFA, i.e., raise your deductible, raise your copayments, lower your co-insurance from 80% to 70%, in short, do all the things that employers have been doing for the past 30yrs. You don’t have to drop your plan. Did you drop the plan when your health insurer raised your rates 10% last year, or 15% the year before, or 18% the year before that? You Obama haters act as though he’s the villain who will make your rates go up, when ,in fact, the health insurers have raised rates almost every year since I’ve been in the business- 1979. Obama should be your hero because he’s the guy trying to reign in the beast. Healthcare has been out of control for a long time. If you want someone to blame, blame the ceo’s of the various health insurers. Some of them pull in over $20million per year. Blame the Medicare swindlers who rob the system of hundreds of millions. Blame the lawyers who encourage phony class-action suits that only enrich them and do nothing for the victims. But don’t blame President Obama- he and many courageous legislators took an unpopular stand to do the right thing.

By: Quittie Johnson

Quittie Johnson — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:38:00 +0000

HOG WASH

By: onedonewong

onedonewong — Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:54:00 +0000

I totally agree your IQ is only a couple of points you must have went to haravrd with obama, neither of you are educated