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Thursday, September 29, 2016

Donald Trump appears to have a special talent for getting presidential candidates to release their birth certificates.

On the same day that he appeared at a fundraiser with the birther conspiracy theorist, Mitt Romney released an official copy of his birth certificate — a little over a year after President Obama did the same.

Romney’s campaign released the birth certificate to Reuters on Tuesday night. It confirms that Willard Mitt Romney was born in Detroit on March 12, 1947, and that his father George was born in a Mormon colony in Mexico. The elder Romney faced a birther-style controversy when he ran for president in 1968, and insisted that he was “natural-born” because both of his parents were U.S. citizens at the time of his birth.

While Obama released his birth certificate to rebuff birthers, Romney seemingly released his to seek their approval. After all, there had been no popular movement demanding to see proof of Romney’s citizenship, and according to Michael Cohen — special counsel to Trump — The Donald had no intention of starting one.

“I don’t think (Trump) has ever thought about Mitt Romney’s father’s birth certificate,” he told Reuters.

The birth certificate is below, via Reuters.

  • ObozoMustGo

    At least it’s not an obvious forgery!

    Have a nice day!

    • How do you know?

    • Obozo, you are such a Clown. You can’t forge a birth Certificate and then release it for all to see. Obama is already the president so you can put that argument to rest. Now I demand to see Mittens Dad immigration paper. I am sure he was an illegal alien.

    • How do you know? The bottom is entirely MISSING. Maybe it said ‘Copied at Kinkos’ on it. Where’s the obsession over the signature, the imprint, the ‘experts’ to talk about layers and embedding, the fact that it says ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ instead of Birth Certificate, no doctor’s signature or hospital listed, or that it is the infamous SHORT FORM? No double standards here….

      • ObozoMustGo

        Maybe you’re right Karen… maybe they were both born in Kenya, or better yet, they were both born in Ushuaya, and this whole thing is a giant misdirection and conspiracy to keep us citizens from paying attention to the real political takeover of America by the New World Order????? hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

        This is good stuff. Really very funny, isnt it?

        Have a nice evening, Karen!

    • Neither is obams a forgery , useless

      • Hey Cupcake
        Wake up . Its the biggest mickey mouse forgery ever attempted and that was said by a retired FBI agent who specializes in forged documents. And he voted Democratic every time by his own admission . WAKE UP !!!

        • johninPCFL

          This one from Romney? Yeah probably.

          Didn’t know Mitt voted Democrat though….

    • YoungGunz58

      I guess you are an expert investigator of what is fact or fiction. Who is the bozo now!
      Stop echoing these fools and use your own common sense. THINK!
      In 1961, Kenya was still under British rule; a conspiracy of wide proportion had to occur involving the Kennedy administration, the British government, President Obama’s mother, and the State of Hawaii to foresee that one day he would be a US president and would be subject to providing proof of citizenship.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Yo Gunz…. sssshhhhhhh! don’t give it away. This is too much fun!

        Thanks!

    • BOZO – how would you know if its forged or not? When did you become a document expert?

      • ObozoMustGo

        Get over it Bigblunder. I like stirring the pot of all you leftist nutjobs.

        Have a nice day!

  • recompile

    I can’t resist:

    “That’s not a birth certificate, that’s a ‘certificate of live birth’! Where’s the long-form birth certificate!”

    I suspect that the birther crowd won’t jump on this one…

    • `We know how it actually works, their playing politics. AGAIN.
      Not all states issue a “long form” Birth certificate.

      • TRUE PLAYING PLITICS?KENYA BORN OBM ANAD MICHIGAN BORN USA REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR PRES.-MITT ROMENY A REAL CANDIATE FOR PRES. REAL THING HS BIRTH CETRTIFICATE

        • cholly8524

          Stop showing your ignorance already.

        • so many teabaggers, so much hate and ignorance!

        • Stupid DMF

        • First, stop shouting you idiotic twit. We all know you are stupid, however you need not shout it out so obviously. You sound strangely like tRump! (sorry viperrulzz, had to use it cause I loved it when I saw it:) Learn to spell and type correctly, then we will listen and again tell you…..are you ready? STUPID!

        • rustingdreams

          Are you from the USA? Any English classes at your high school?

        • Boyd Neeley

          WHAT?

        • oldtack

          Juliet
          Are you really this illiterate and ignorant or are you faking? Re-read what you just typed IF you can decipher it. You are pathetic.

          • Lorrellei

            I have had the displeasure of reading all of her posts today and yes, it appears she IS that illiterate and I’d go so far as to say she is not even posting from the US according to her speech and sentence structure, it appears she has the major HOT PANTS for Romney though…lmao. How about that, Juliet? wanna be his second wife or what? Sheesh. Can you say fangirl, groupie along the lines of Justin Bieber craziness? Nope? I didn’t think you could say it, as you cannot even spell. LOL

      • carlotucci

        Michigan issues Birth certificates. You can apply for certified copies of you birth certificate from Michigan.

      • camaguebex

        All states do issue a long form called ” Certification of birth.and it is not quite the same thing as George Romney is not running for the Presidency but both his parents were Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico. The Bingham amendment to the American born clause made it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency which is the reason why Obama qualifies for the office because his mother was a natural born citizen of the U.S. thereby he has dual citizenship because neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, had natural born U.S. parents. As a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.
        This point is moot in reference to the parents, the only valid question is whether the candidate was or was not born in the U.S. and a newspaper birth announcement is not proof of citizenship. A Certificate of live birth is done at the hospital at the time of birth and sent to the Vital Statistics Bureau, this is why a long form “Certification of birth” or a Naturalization certificate is required to request a U.S. passport. Then what is all the hoopla about?
        It is very simple, when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “Certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “Certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original biological parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order.
        In other words a “Certificate of live birth” can be tampered with quite easily while the original “Certification of birth” can never be altered but a NEW one can be created to show the adopted parents as the “original biological” parents thereby creating a fake legal document. So, when the adopted person orders a photocopy of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will now only show his new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents even though the people who will now appear as the “real” parents are not his original biological parents.

    • Marjani

      LO-freakin-L!!!

    • lindom92

      I agree with you. Are the BIRTHERS going to accept the “certificate of live birth”
      for Romney???? They didn’t accepts Obama’s. What do you say Trump???

      • It’s not about the birth certificates. It’s about whose poltics you most agree with. That’s what decides which is acceptable and which is not. Problem solved?

        • viperrulzz

          Might want to relay that to the Golden Haired Birther Boy tRump

          • I want to know if that thing on top of Trumps head has a birth certificate?

          • Donald have you considered the bald head shaved look it works well on many guys

          • MichelleRose3

            “I’ll take ‘Topiary” for $100, Alex. The answer is: that thing on top of Donald Trump’s head!

          • corumguy

            If it ever had one, It probably also has a Death certificate. I love your question.

          • gendotte

            Fido

          • Was Mitt Romney’s parents both u.s. citizens at the TIME OF BIRTH of Mitt Romney?

          • JackieAllen

            No, the thing on top of Trumps is a bird’s nest that
            looks like a “sky piece”.

          • I did not think that CHICKENS had to prove their birth status!

          • was Mitt Romneys parents both u.s. citizens at the TIME OF MITT ROMNEY’S birth?

        • Charlie, it is about the Constitutional requirement that our President be born a citizen of the United States. the question of Obama’s birth resides in the questions of his mother’s age at time of birth, where she gave birth and the fact that his father’s country demands that all infants born there are automatically citizens of that country. These aspects have some gray areas.

          • JackieAllen

            No, they are not!

      • camaguebex

        Not quite the same thing as George Romney is not running for the Presidency but both his parents were Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico. The Bingham amendment to the American born clause made it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency which is the reason why Obama qualifies for the office because his mother was a natural born citizen of the U.S. thereby he has dual citizenship because neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, had natural born U.S. parents. As a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.
        This point is moot in reference to the parents, the only valid question is whether the candidate was or was not born in the U.S. and a newspaper birth announcement is not proof of citizenship. A Certificate of live birth is done at the hospital at the time of birth and sent to the Vital Statistics Bureau, this is why a long form “Certification of birth” or a Naturalization certificate is required to request a U.S. passport. Then what is all the hoopla about?
        It is very simple, when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “Certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “Certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original biological parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order.
        In other words a “Certificate of live birth” can be tampered with quite easily while the original “Certification of birth” can never be altered but a NEW one can be created to show the adopted parents as the “original biological” parents thereby creating a fake legal document. So, when the adopted person orders a photocopy of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will now only show his new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents even though the people who will now appear as the “real” parents are not his original biological parents.

    • LOL…I can’t resist.

      Ok Donald, show us that George Romney was in our country legally all the time. LOL…

    • joujou228

      I’m with you, I want to see his school records to see if his daddy bought him entrance to an ivy lease school, lol.

    • mar6724

      I agree its a racial issue with this group.

    • camaguebex

      Not quite the same thing as George Romney is not running for the Presidency but both his parents were Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico. The Bingham amendment to the American born clause made it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency which is the reason why Obama qualifies for the office because his mother was a natural born citizen of the U.S. thereby he has dual citizenship because neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, had natural born U.S. parents. As a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.
      This point is moot in reference to the parents, the only valid question is whether the candidate was or was not born in the U.S. and a newspaper birth announcement is not proof of citizenship. A Certificate of live birth is done at the hospital at the time of birth and sent to the Vital Statistics Bureau, this is why a long form “Certification of birth” or a Naturalization certificate is required to request a U.S. passport. Then what is all the hoopla about?
      It is very simple, when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “Certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “Certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original biological parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order.
      In other words a “Certificate of live birth” can be tampered with quite easily while the original “Certification of birth” can never be altered but a NEW one can be created to show the adopted parents as the “original biological” parents thereby creating a fake legal document. So, when the adopted person orders a photocopy of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will now only show his new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents even though the people who will now appear as the “real” parents are not his original biological parents.

  • AlfredSonny

    As soon as Romney officially declares that Obama’s Hawaii birth certificate as valid as his, I will consider it authentic. Otherwise, his briber, Trump, should claim that he was born in Mexico.

  • AlfredSonny

    With all the money Romney has hidden off-shore, it is well-forged.

  • 4gls8

    Is Mitt’s father an illegal alien?

  • Exactly. The birthers had FITS over the fact that Obama’s had ‘Certificate of Live Birth’. Waiting for the fits over this one (and experts to make sure it isn’t photoshopped, etc). Waiting, waiting….. *crickets*….

    • true true romeny a true natural born american. whereas obama a kenyan born- omg

      • By what standards? The info on the exact same type of birth certificate (including the title ‘Certificate of Live birth’, with the same type of information, without the bottom cut off) says Hawaii. Where’s the experts to proclaim if it wasn’t forged, the whining over the ‘live birth’ business, the demands to see a long form, etc?

      • Julie —

        Do you speak English? Any recognizable language then?

  • Maliadb

    As a native of the State of Hawai’i I still want to see proof that Romney is NOT a unicorn! I KNOW that our president was born here. My own daughter was born in the same hospital just a couple of weeks later.

    • true or false obaam wa sborn in kenya-glad romney a natural born citizenship a state of michigan.

      • False. And Obama’s birth certificate, or HIS ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ short form, JUST like this one, is every bit as real as this one. I noticed nobody whined about it not saying the words ‘birth certificate’ (in that order), being a short form, being COPIED, having the bottom cut off altogether, no imprint of a seal, no signature of a doctor, or name of a hospital or, well, everything that’s the exact same here (other than data) as on Obama’s birth certificate. Hypocrite and double standards much?

      • tobewan

        No matter how many times you say it, Julie, when you’re wrong, you’re wrong! And you can’t make it right by repeated false statements!

      • Boyd Neeley

        Do YOU have a brith carcifiant? Jesus, lucky for you an IQ test is not required to post on here!

  • So I guess y’all are going to have to stop with the “Kenyan” crap now that Romney is a Mexican, eh? ROFL!!!!

    • Its a perfect con job to get the libs on their high horses. As soon as it gets traction in the press about the live birth Romney document and the father being born in Mexico and it will , that’s when someone will come up with the bright idea to have both Obama and Romney meet on national TV in a debate like setting to present the real birth certificates and proof of documentation about whether their both parents were in fact US citizens. I will bet it all that Romney has everything ready to go and is legit and Obama won’t have didley. You’ll see because I am never wrong when I go all in . You see I have done my homework you twits . Geeeez , do some research and read a little bit and you shall be blinded by the light for the first time in your pathetic lives . Obama is a liar and the worst president since Carter . And I didn’t think that was possible . Or do you people even know that Carter was a president ? hahahahhahahahahahah Idiots , all of you.

      • Ed Mays

        36Mike. Right you are, James G. All this will be revealed four years from now when Obama writes a multi million dollar book on how he hoodwinked America…..but you can`t tell Liberals anything…they still worship at the knee of Clinton…be careful while you`re down there, Libs. Clinton the draft dodger, the pervert, the great President lying to the American people under oath. Romney will be squeaky clean compared to these two hucksters.

      • Lorrellei

        Shut up. please. you and your Romney a$$ kissing is making most of us puke. You are probably 19 and still living in your mommy’s basement. Research. Please……. you are no one to call out every liberal, in fact you were never born in my book you nasty person. Eckkkh!

      • hilandar1000

        Better go do your homework again, James. You certainly get a failing grade on whatever you claim to have done so far. Although you are pretty proficient at lies, fantasy, and name-calling, it’s quite evident you don’t know the meaning of the word “research”.

  • Certificate of Live Birth. What kind of document is this? It is false, just like those who said Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth was false.

    And his father was born in Mexico.

    Just remember probably half of our parents if not more had parents that were born in foreign countries too.

    • Lorrellei

      But was his father a born Mexican from Mexican parents while he was born in Mexico, and from which wife was George Romney birthed? 1, 2, 3, or 4? And were they Mexican wives? That is the trillion dollar question.

  • now lets see more of his old federal taxes

  • Romney should be running for the hills with Trump supporting him. That’s all he needs. Two rich guys with more money than brains, at least the money part applies to Romney and the no brains to Trump who barely has money but plenty of bravado.

  • Is Trump going to claim that this is not a “birth certificate” because it is called a “certificate of live birth” (like it is in most states) or will he admit he is wrong. That was one of the silliest things I have ever seen. Donald Trump holding up his commemorative hospital certificate with his bably footprints on it and calling it a birth certificate. Does he really not know the difference in a hospital certificate and the official certificate of live birth with the state seal embossed on it? I actually think it is pretty cool that Romney released a Certificate of Live Birth just like Obama’s.

    • Lorrellei

      Albeit it has VOID running down both sides of the document. He’s VOID. That’s a forgery, I’ve come across enough Mexican forgeries, passports, drivers licenses, birth certificates to know in my business travels, and none of mine have VOID running down the sides of the document. I was born in South Dakota and I have all 3 records of my own birth.

  • It’s obviously a fake! Right?

  • You can’t fool me, he was born dead.

  • Steve danna

    Who gives a good crap where he was born !!!!!!. The only way that banana is going to see
    the inside of the White House is as part of a guided tour. I am with the steelworkers that
    Bain screwed over when Bain robbed the company blind and closed it down ! And this puke is telling the American people that he is going to provide jobs for you. Good thing B.S. isn’t dynamite cuz he could destroy half of the world.

  • Guest

    Very Interesting-Strange document “Certificate of Live Birth”??? Now that the issue has been raised, I wonder if his dad was legal immigrant.

  • Marjani

    We want the LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE WITH THE RAISED SEAL! Not the Certificate of Live Birth. How do we know he was born in Michigan and they didn’t misspell it on the certificate what should have said MEXICO? This is not certified, or legitimate. Mitt Romney was born in Mexico, therefore he is not a NATURAL BORN United States citizen! Not legitimate!

  • HOW COME IF ROMNEY’S FATHER WAS BORN IN MEXICO, HE RAN FOR PRESIDEN OF THE
    U.S. ?

    • Cairndance

      Mitt’s grandfather moved to Mexico because he had 3 wives in Utah. In Mexico he married a 4th wife! Just which one of these wives gave birth to Mitt’s Father?
      Was Mitt’s Father even legal to run for President of the United States?

      • Culandun

        I just think that the Redneck Republicans don’t like having a Black (well he’s half white) man in the White House. From my point of view as a businessman, business is picking up, I’ve got my first good contract in two years and I’m being inundated with offers of work. My take on Obama is that he’s a consummate politician who plays a long and quiet game that will redress the grievous damage done to the world by the Bush regime which was a government of ‘No Government’. C.

  • Ed

    with our open door policy , it’s a wonder anyone is a true American except the native Americans

  • Bengus81

    Sorry…not buying that BC because it’s not the real deal!!!! Come on Romney,lets see the LONG version!

  • docnoir

    Yes and with the hispanic pop the fastest growing voting block Mexico is a plus for him, especially among conservative leaning voters. This is not a simple matter of match for match-it’s much more cynical.

    • Lorrellei

      Actually most Mexicans, Hispanics, Latinos despise the Republican party. Having lived right across the border in Tijuana for a few years, I have spoken to many here and they are Democratic to the extreme and most of the legal Mexicans, etc.. are Democrats… and are especially against Romney. Most will be voting Obama 2012 for fear of Republican hate towards illegals in the US. The Mexican people are very protective of their own. Regardless of legality. I do some work for Obama’s campaign and from what I’ve heard for that demographic, they cannot stand Romney, think he is a hypocrite, and will not vote against their, (or their own illegal family members still in the US), own best interests.

  • REA NATURAL BORN REPUBLICAN CANDIATE MITT ROMNEY OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.
    OBAMA NEVER DID HAVE THIS TYPE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE OBAMA WAS BORN BORN IN KENYA GREW UP IN INDONESIA AND HAWAII.

  • LocalDemocrat

    “Some Say” that Mitt Romney has more than one wife – where are his Marriage Certificates?

  • What a moron you are Lady

    • johninPCFL

      Speaking to the mirror again?

      Maybe try upping your meds…

  • He was born????

    • Like you, i am sceptical of Romney’s birth. I believe he was manufactured, the last of the line of Ken doll clones although he is remarkably lifelike.

  • rooby9

    so, Mitten’s daddy was born in Mexico? Doesn’t that make Mittens an anchor-baby?

  • carlotucci

    Why would Mitt have to get a copy of a ‘certificate of live birth’ issued on January 18, 2012.
    Where’s his original birth certificate? Since this is such a big deal to everyone!

  • cholly8524

    This doesn’t prove anything. So what.

  • ckibbey80

    So what? I don’t care if he was born on the moon…it doesn’t matter. I don’t know why Trump won’t let it go. He is dumber than a box of rocks!

    • D_17

      Actually, he’s stupider than an empty box.

      I can’t honestly call him dumb. I’d like to, but he won’t shut up long enough.

  • bestofandy

    This is really stupid. Its like we think that our present and future presidential candidates are from another planet. Or, otherwise they were not born in the US but secretly smuggled into the country. Or, maybe they are not human and born in a cave somewhere. American conspiracy theory really has gone too far.

  • evergreenfarms82

    Does it matter if anyone’s Birth History meets Constitutional requirements to be President? If not, there are probably other elements of that document we can choose to ignore or not comply with. How and who will decided on what part of our Nation’s founding document will be honored?

  • joujou228

    What a joke this Romney guy is, I can’t believe this is the best the Republican party has. No wonder these republican governors from Florida to Pennsylvania are passing voter id laws to make it harder for people to vote. For Romney to win, they have to steal this election. Fair minded independents and reopublicans should threat not to vote unless they rescind these laws.

    • D_17

      It gets funnier. The Republican Governor of Florida, who is having such a fit that there might be people voting illegally… made his money as CEO of a hospital chain that, while he was CEO, systematically defrauded Medicare so prolifically that the settlement (always less than the amount of the actual fraud) was a record $1.7 Billion!

      He got out of that business and formed a new company shortly before running for Governor. As governor, he pumped for a law that required drug testing for all welfare recipients and applicants. The new company of his… makes and sells the drug test kits. That, of course, is a gross conflict of interest, so he sold his interest in that company… I think he sold it to his wife, or some family member.

      • joujou228

        I couldn’t believe that Floriday elected him. It’s frustrating.

  • If you are born in the United States or any of its territories, you are a NATURAL born American regardless of the citizenship of your parents.
    If at least one of your parents was American, you are a NATURAL born American regardless of where you were born.

    Obama’s mother was American. Is someone out there now suggesting she was not really his mother?

  • With the Donald entering the race I would not vote for Romney if he offered me a seat along side him. I did not like Romney when he started and the dislike has grown. Until Romney brings all his money back to the U.S.A. I will not change my opinion of him. I am sure there are lot of ex-employs that will agree.

    • Yep; just think about it for a moment. Romney could become the first U.S. President who the country knows hides his money in the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes!

  • im sorry but that looks like it was photo shopped better have trump and arizona sheriff joe get on that right away.

  • Allan Toby

    If President Obama’s father was from Africa, and the republicans accuse him of not being American, well, since Romney’s father is Mexican, does that mean that he is really not an American? Or are they just continuing this birther mess because Obama is Black? C’mon you republicans, get honest for a change!

    • Agree Alan The Republican cannot be honest, it is not in there nature

    • Agree Allan. The birthers and GOP/TP claim to be so proud to be American. Why not admit that they are racists too? They certainly aren’t fooling anyone about their intolerance.

  • Rob

    So if his father was born in Mexico and not a naturalized citizen of the US, does that mean Mitt is really a Mexican, the offspring of an illegal alien?

    • johninPCFL

      Seems like it.

      The bigger question is why was his Mexican birth not an obstacle to George Romney running for president?

      • D_17

        It might have been, if he’d been the candidate, but he wasn’t. Goldwater was.
        Anyway, George Romney would still have been a US citizen if his parents were, and Romney is not a Hispanic name.

        • johninPCFL

          He wasn’t born in a consulate or on a military base. That means he was Mexican by birth.

          “might have been”? In that time it would never have come up. Todays tribe looks for anything to push a wedge into.

          • D_17

            It depends on the rules in effect at the time.

  • hilandar1000

    Why doesn’t somebody point out that, even if President Obama had been born in Kenya, (which he quite obviously was not), he would still have been a natural- born U.S. citizen because his mother was an American citizen and had lived in the United States for the required number of years before his birth. Therefore the requirements for a natural born American citizen have been met, regardless of where they might say he was born. Anyone can look up the law that was in effect at the time of his birth. So, if any of the birthers could actually read the law, they would see that his place of birth, wherever they want to say it was, would not disqualify him from being a U.S. citizen. The obvious reason they keep trying to classify him as “other” is that they have no candidates who could come close to his level of intelligence, wisdom, and accomplishment in life. His critics can find nothing wrong with the way he has conducted his life, so they had to go all the way back to his birth to try to find something to disqualify him. Get over it, birthers. President Obama will go down in history as one of the very best presidents in the history of our nation. There is nothing you can dig up in your bag of lies and fantasy that will diminish his greatness as a leader during a very difficult time in our nation’s history. In fact, he will probably be considered even greater because of his perseverance in the face of such ignorance and lies among his adversaries, who made his job even harder than any other U.S. president has ever had to face during the term in office.

  • If American people really focus on birth certificate and not in the economy, then they should make billions of copies of these birth cerificates and give it to the cetizines in this country and use them to purhase their fiood, pay for mortgages, buy and pays for health insurance. This certificate issue is already old and President Obama proved it already. This is waste of time!

  • MrManenterprise

    Big Whup!!! Who cares….nobody!! A “Mormon town” huh……interesting……”Jonestown…Mormon Town…hmmnn…sounds like a cult to me. Ha!

  • dctrdeath

    I’m confused. Is Romney Mexican?

    • johninPCFL

      Yes, and his extended family still lives there.

  • Steve danna

    Who cares what his birth certificate says !! The only way this banana will ever see the
    inside of the White House is as part of a guided tour. As the CEO of Bain “liquidaters”
    Inc. and the screwing they gave Steelworkers by stealing the companys assets and then
    dumping the company tells it all about this clown. A Massachsetts voter that was never
    impressed with that dummy.

  • Mitt is secretly ……. MEXICAN!!!!!

  • So Romney needs to be held to the same ridiculous standards that his key supporter Trump is holding Obama to. Where is the Long Form Certified Birth Certificate for Romney. Nothing else will do because even that has not been enough to satisfy that bloviating ignoramus Trump.

  • Trump is a Pompus, Blowhard, wih really bad hair.

  • So when is the Donald going to release his birth certificate? I really suspect it was an unnatural birth of some kind, hence his preoccupation with this subject. Maybe he was born in a La Brea tar pit and was therefore a tar baby.

  • Except, he doesn’t have hair!

  • Obviously Romney’s birth certificate is fake. He needs to release his certificate of authenticity, serial number, warrantee, and date of manufacture. I will concede that he is remarkably lifelike, though.

    • rooby9

      actually, Roger, I really do not find Mittens to be life-like! His energy reads like a drone or something. Ken doll? there is a dullness in his eyes, which is worse when he smiles. Something is missing in the man.

  • They need to point out that Romney’s grandparents were forced to leave this country because they were practicing Polygamy, which has always been illegal in the U.S.

    • Joseph Kelsall

      Does he have ‘siblings’ to separate mothers, I wonder?

      • D_17

        Obama’s grandfather practiced polygamy, too.

        • Joseph Kelsall

          D_17 – You are absolutely correct. Africans took several wives because the infant death toll was high and it kept the population stable. And, this was a society into which puritanism had not penetrated its hypocritical head. Romney is a charlatan and a hypocrite; an impostor, to boot. He is only marginally more intelligent than Bush.

  • Who cares?
    In some countrys you would be hanged for treason if you said to a president what Trump has said about President Obama.
    He really doesnt need to stoop to the ignorant tactics of these desperate morons.

  • So we are back to Birth Certificates. After Obama has been President for 3.5 yrs the Republicans can’t find anything else to get him out of office but to bring up a redundant statement that the President is not a natural born citizen.
    Why do the Republicans pull at straws. Just because the Obama is a black man is seems like the question of his birth is all they got to sway votes.
    Why haven’t this been brought up in the past with other white candidates. If racisim exsist it’s because of the Republicans trying to get a man of color out of power. What ashame and a trip.

    Two face GOP

    • Joseph Kelsall

      You mean they want to swap duller for colour? Well, they don’t come much duller than Romney. Bush couldn’t remember what to say and Romney can’t remember what he’s said. Dumb and Dumber with Joe the plumber! Tog go bog e! From the Emerald Isle.

  • I have talked to people inthe state of Michigan Department of Community Health and they say that the Romney birth certificate is a forgery.Where is the legal notarized stamp for starters.

  • Just dumbing down for The Donald….

  • Kolenekeo C. Darwin Kaeo

    Attention please ….. Will all illegal immigrants departing from U.S. soil please report to the “Self Deportation window #7” !! …. failure to comply means we’ll shoot you, your parents and your children should you fail to complete the proper forms in a timely manner. .. hahahahahahahahahaha … and please take Donald Trump with you .. he’s a pain in the Ass to American politics!

  • Its a smoke screen and people are eating it up. Dumb asses. Its to avoid the fact that the GOP wants Obama out at any cost. The cost will be the issue. It will be another loss to the American people and another stupid man in office like all the GOP polititions GREED. Starve the many to keep the 1% in there mansions as far away from the riff raff as they can get. OUTTA TOUCH MUCH!!!

  • msbetz

    Donald Trump is a very clever man, and he’s not afraid to expose frauds.
    Trump should run for President, he could win….He’s ELIGIBLE!

    • D_17

      Trump should run… for cover. He’s not clever, just aggressive and opinionated, and if he wasn’t wealthy, nobody would pay attention to anything he said.

      What does somebody who puts on an obviously scripted show like “Celebrity Apprentice” and calls it “reality,” know about truth?

      Remember the wise words of George Burns: The main thing, is sincerity. Once you learn how to fake that, you got it made… you can do anything.

  • sheilab2

    Oh thank goodness, that mystery is solved – I was so worried that perhaps Mittens was born in Uganda.

  • Diamonds R4Ever

    Is there really a difference between a “Certificate of Live Birth” and the “Birth Certificate. I live in NJ and have a Cert of Live Birth from the hospital and a Birth Cert from the city.

    My Cert of Live Birth is NOT a long form (to my knowledge its not considered such), it simply has my parents name, dates and places of their births, my name, time and date of birth, weight and length at time of birth and the Drs. name. Its signed by the clerk at the hospital.

    The Cert of Live Birth is “certified” just like the Birth Certificate is. I used it at the Social Security office and the DMV; it was accepted as certification of my birth.

    Does the usage of various certs vary from state to state or is it a county wide usage policy?

    Just wondered……

  • I could be wrong but I can’t recall President Obamas’ birth certificate Saying VOID down the sides! COMEON TRUMP, you of all people should have spotted this fraudulant piece of paper right away. Maybe you should have your INVESTIGATORS look into this!!!!

    • D_17

      It didn’t say void down the side, but that may be a matter of the lighting used in the method by which it was scanned. If an intense close-up lighting source is used, like in most office copiers and scanners, it brings out the “void” markings. But there are other methods of photography that don’t use that kind of lighting. (You remember, Obama’s was in color, right? Romney’s isn’t.) Especially in color, or where some documents are delicate and it’s important not to apply too much light.

  • mar6724

    How do we know Romney’s Birth Certificate is not a fake too? His dad was born in Mexico maybe his mom went there to give birth. Obama’s dad was born in Africa and the birther’s had a “mad dog” fit over this fact. If the president’s place of birth due to his father’s nationality why not question Romney’s too? Hypocrisy is alive and well as is racism in this great nation. The group who has flamed this issue has created a divisive issue. I will not extend the hateful political game, but will ask the question: Why should we as Americans accept Romney’s birth certificate and others will not for the President of the United States of America Barack Obama?

  • Juliet – Just wondering, exactly what are your smoking, drinking, or eating (possibly magic mushrooms) to make you so ignorant, a bad speller, and totally brain dead? (omg ….. haven’t heard or seen anyone use that one since I left CA and the Valley Girls 20 years ago) Sober up and read the supid things you’ve written. Self embarrassment is very enlightening!

  • craigorie

    It’s got to be a fake.

  • Romney’s dad is from Mexico, Is he legal? Is Romney Legal? Can he provr that his father was legal when he was born? Would Romney be sent back to Mexico if His father was illegal?

  • According to the Birther King – Certificate of Live Birth is unacceptable. Please Mr. Trump keep your Birther Nonsense fair and balanced and not based on your prejudices.

    • A certificate of live birth is all mittey provided today to prove he is eligible to be POTUS and it was immediately accepted by all the birthers as true and legal. Mitteys dad was born in Mexico even. It would appear to me that there is no difference between what Mitt provided and what President Obama provided. If Mitt is eligible then President Obama has to be eligible too.

  • Sheriff Joe Arpaios group determined or alledged that Obamas certificate is fake or manipulated in a photoshop way. Nobody is allowed to see the original. After the video came out explaining the group findings, suddenly Joe found himself embroiled in new, unrelated federal problems. Its not about whose politics you agree with, its about the truth. Thank god for people like Sheriff Joe and their willingness to stand up.

    • Joe has been in trouble with the Justice Dept. for several years because of his racial profiling and hate crimes and is finally getting called to answer for them.

    • D_17

      How can they determine it is fake or manipulated if they never saw the original and don’t know what software was used to scan it?

      The fact that they would even comment, shows they don’t know what they are talking about, and that truth has nothing to do with their motives.

    • bigspender7

      Hey whatnext – are you just completely stupid or what?

    • Oh good Lord another wing-nut is loose among us. I certainly hope that ‘whats next’ is not really that simple minded. Birther twaddle is for the truly stupid. Ignorance can be fixed, but stupid is to the bone. Get some help friend.

  • Claire Harmon

    I wish Trump would shut his mouth!!! I am so sick of the self righteous Republicans and their worship of the mega wealthy!!!!!!

  • Rodrigues_Islander

    It looks fake to me.
    Orly Taitz needs to check this out.

  • What waste of time and effort. Romney was born in the United States just like President Obama. All of the hand-waving and asinine remarks won’t change the facts. Long form or short form who gives a flying fig? Only the truly disturbed really believe Trumps nonsense. It works on poor souls like the Juliet’s of the world and their fellow travelers. All conscious citizens are well aware of the bate-and-switch being offered by the golden boys and recognize bull…. when it rears its ugly head. For those who wish to believe such twaddle there is nothing to be done about them for they are beyond help. Unfortunately, the country is full of such fools…and far too many of them are allowed to vote.

  • ruauper2

    The questions that might be posed here are the following. 1) Where was George Romney’s birth certificate issued or that of his wife? If George was born in Mexico the fact he said his parents were both U.S. citizens really wouldn’t have any bearing on George’s citizenship. 2) When George’s parents moved to Mexico did they do so in a legal manner or were they, as we so often hear today, illegal aliens?

    Any way you cut it Mittens was born in Michigan so he is a U.S. citizen by birth. His dad was born in Mexico so it would be interesting to know what he produced as proof of U.S. citizenship. Most certainly his birth record showing he was born in Mexico wouldn’t be sufficient. Maybe duel citizenship ?

    • D_17

      If his parents were US citizens, then Mitt is also one. Just like for anyone else.

      • ruauper2

        My wife’s parents immigrated here from Finland where they were both born. My wife was born im Michigan and that makes her a U.S. citizen but NOT a Finnish citizen. If she wants to have duel citizenship (U.S. and Finnish) it will cost her $300 US plus the documemntation proving her parents were born in Finland.
        If you have any information that backs up your statement that U.S. citizenship of the parents bestows U.S. citizenship automatically to their offspring born outside the U.S. I’d appreciate your passing it along. I know there are are exceptions to this but they deal with members of the armed services as I recall.

        John McCain is an example of this, his father was stationed on the U.S.Naval base in Panama at the time John was born there. You may recall this was a subject of some controversy when McCain ran for President but it quickly died for lack of substance. The Romney issue is totally different as you can see.

        Peace

        • D_17

          Dual citizenship rules vary from one country to another. Some countries don’t recognize dual citizenship at all, ever.

          Finland apparently has it, but one has to apply and prove one is eligible. The $300 would be an application fee.

          For the US, it depends on when the birth took place, as the laws have been amended at times, and the same criteria was not always in effect. I did have a link to the laws in effect in 1961, but I’m not sure where my computer has it stored now. You can find it using Google

          • ruauper2

            I went looking and started with Wikipedia which may or may not have been a good source to begin with. One thing is certain, lawyers have had a field day with this one. There seem to be more exceptions to the general rule granting citizenship to American born parents than you can shake a stick at. Then, of course, the child born out of wedlock presents an entirely different set of ifs or does/does not circumstances.
            Peace

    • camaguebex

      To answer your questions as inquiring minds want to know:
      1) George Romney was born in Colonia Dublán in Galeana, in the state of Chihuahua, Mexico on July, 1907, where his maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon Mission in Mexico City, his mother was a grandaughter of the Mormon apostle Parley P. Pratt. His wife was Lenore LaFount, an actress, and she was born in Logan, Utah on Nov. 9, 1908. They were married on July 2, 1931, at the Salt Lake Temple.
      Yes, the fact that both his parents were born in Utah does matter a great deal as he was an American citizen born abroad to American citizens, and George was never given Mexican citizenship because of the Mexican laws against American settlers which are still in place today.
      2) His parents moved to Mexico when poligamy was abolished in the US by the Mormons and were missionaries there. They had to leave the country in 1910 with the Mexican revolution headed by Francisco Madero which outsted General Porfirio Diaz in 1911.
      Due to #1 no dual citizenship can be claimed by either George or his son Mitt.

  • D_17

    Uh-oh!

    To quote Trump, “A Certificate of Live Birth” doesn’t prove anything, it’s not the same thing as a birth certificate at all….

    I guess Trump will have to withdraw his support from Mitt, too.

  • Joel Hearshen

    As far as I know Having lived in Michigan for 67 years) ALL birth certificates are issued by the county in which the child is born. In Order to obtain a copy of your birth certificate, you go to the county health department. The state of Michigan does not issue birth certificates.

  • Now lets see your tax returns for the last four years.

    • Diogenes67

      Ten.

  • Boyd Neeley

    Trump “The Ego Carp Mouth” doesn’t have anything else he can add to Romney’s campaign, so he picks up the old Birther Card and starts flailing it around again. Question: What body of water was Trump born in?

    • camaguebex

      The Dead Sea perhaps…….

  • Obviously a forgery ! Yes folks I hate to say it but there is a ring of birth certificate forgers that travel the entire country speculating who possibly will run for President and require they forge a certificate then plant it in the records of the hospital they think the next president was born in. Please people, get your head out of your rear and start checking facts and try acting like there is some intelligent life in these United States.

  • Howard Kromis

    Funny thing I was born in MIchigan and my son in Hawaii. Both of our certs look just like Mitt from Michigan and like Barack’s from Hawaii. I happen to know my son’s is authentic…..I was there!

  • JKloza

    Was his father a legal immigrant?

    • camaguebex

      No, he was an American citizen born abroad to parents who were both Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico. Also what is most important, he did not have dual citizenship as George Romney was never given Mexican citizenship. That country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing feelings against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.

  • Cairndance

    So Mitt’s Grandfather left the U.S. and moved to Mexico (because of anti-poligamy laws) with 3 wives and then married a 4th one in Mexico! Mitt’s Father was born in Mexico (I wonder which of the 4 wives actually gave birth to DAD!) How did his dad run for the U.S. Presidency?
    Also… I have my original long form birth certificate (with all of the actual signatures) and when I applied for my first U.S. Passport it was not considered proof of birth! I had to apply for the “Certificate of Live Birth” from the state before the passport was issued!

    • camaguebex

      What state are you from? There must have been some mistake as the Federal requirements to apply for a passport are:
      1- Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport
      2- Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*
      3- Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
      4- Naturalization Certificate
      5- Certificate of Citizenship

      *A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes. Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant’s parent(s).
      On January 3, 2011, the Department of State began issuing a new Consular Report of Birth Abroad (FS-240). You may request multiple copies of this document at any time. As of December 31, 2010 the Certificate of Report of Birth (DS-1350) is no longer issued. All previously issued FS-240 and DS-1350 documents are still valid for proof of identity, citizenship and other legal purposes.

      As you can see the long form “Certification of birth” or “Birth certificate” is the preferred form of identification then if not available the rest can be used. Do notice that a Consular report of Birth abroad has precedence over the short version Certification of birth. The issue is to demonstrate that you are indeed a citizen.
      Why this sequence you may ask? I guess is because when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “Certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “Certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original biological parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order.
      In other words a “Certificate of live birth” can be tampered with quite easily and is done routinely in adoption cases, while the original can never be altered by court order a NEW one can be created to show the adopted parents as the “original biological” parents thereby creating a fake document that is “legal”. So, when the adopted person orders a photocopy of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will now only show the new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents even though the people who will now appear as the “real” parents are not the original biological parents. In the end the Judicial system has rendered this type of documentation as unreliable to prove parentage so it is not even worth the paper it is printed on, however, it does not invalidate the fact that the person was born in the U.S. or abroad to U.S. parents.

  • Mitt’s father ran for president under the deception that he was born in the United States of America and he was actually born in the United States of Mexico. “The sins of the fathers shall be visited unto their children yea unto the fifth generation.” Mitt, your father’s certified sin has cost you my vote and I shall inform as many others as I can of your familial failure.

    • camaguebex

      Do not delude yourself as this was not a deception. The Bingham amendment to the American born clause makes it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency. George Romney’s parents were both Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico and as a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.
      For you to claim that there is a sin of some kind or a failure committed by George Romney because he was born abroad is wrong and it is an insult to all military families who have to serve in military bases around the world and who have children born while in service to their country, they clearly have NO choice as to where their parents are stationed.

  • msblkwidow

    What the heck! This is a certificate of live birth. Oh no. This is unacceptable.

  • This is just to try and subtly re-kindle the Obama birth certificate controversy…2 weeks ago it was Obama’s association with Jeremiah Wright.

  • npstokes

    Romney took a dog on vacation on top of his station wagon, Trump has a canine riding on top of his head and his political mind is on a vacation.

  • donald is a pos, I knew him when he was riding on his fathers coat tails, he did not pay his bills in the 70’s and screwed everyone, then he went bankrupt and screwed everyone again, how many bk’s on how many businesses ? Who in their right mind would listen to him on the economy or ethics or social issues ? I am glad that romney has aligned himself with this pos it will only hurt him.

  • Now, that’s scary, when the people who make such a hooplah over Obama’s birth certificate can’t even produce the proper document themselves.

  • rsonnenschein

    Romney has the same type birth certificate as Preseident Obama. Certificate of Live Birth. Why don’ t people get off of this subject. Both men have the same type birth certificates. So what.

  • oldtack

    Juliet
    You dumb- assed Broad if you are going into ecstacy over this man then PLEASE spell his name correctly. It is ROMNEY not romeny

  • I think this is a phony! It looks like a MEXICAN forgery!

  • fortyfourxtwo

    I’m so disgusted by these jackasses. What’s wrong with the people in this country? Is this what Democracy and freedom is all about? This birth certificate business is such bullshit and it makes us look like ignorant fools. Trump, Romney and all those idiots on the right really embarrass this nation, they should hang their heads in shame.

  • Lary9

    I noticed immediately that Romney’s birth certificate is a “Certificate of Live Birth”. Ironically, this exact doc title was one of the principal reasons that Trump [et. al.] emphasized in originally rejecting the Obama B.C. as unacceptable.
    Trump and others claimed it wasn’t valid because it wasn’t the “real” birth document. He bloviated incorrectly that a “Cert of Live Birth” was some kind of inauthentic short form when in fact, most BCs are certified copies just like this, (including my own used to enlist in the military). They are never torn from the ledger book of notarized Birth Day registries since this would destroy the contiguous record archives which in those days were kept in paper ledgers books.

    • camaguebex

      Not so. This point is moot, the only valid question is whether the candidate was or was not born in the U.S. and a newspaper birth announcement is not proof of citizenship. The Bingham amendment to the natural born citizen clause made it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency which is the reason why Obama qualifies for the office because his mother was a natural born citizen of the U.S. although he has dual citizenship because neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, had natural born U.S. parents.
      A Certificate of live birth is done at the hospital at the time of birth and sent to the Vital Statistics Bureau, this is why a long form “Certification of birth” or a Naturalization certificate is required to request a U.S. passport. Then what is all the hoopla about?
      It is very simple, when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “Certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “Certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original biological parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order.
      In other words a “Certificate of live birth” can be tampered with quite easily and is done routinely in adoption cases, while the original can never be altered by court order a NEW one can be created to show the adopted parents as the “original biological” parents thereby creating a fake document that is “legal”. So, when the adopted person orders a photocopy of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will now only show the new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents even though the people who will now appear as the “real” parents are not his original biological parents. In the end it really does not matter any longer as the Judicial system has rendered this type of documentation as unreliable so it is not even worth the paper it is printed on.

      • Lary9

        I doubt your expertise in spite of all the officious sounding, but convoluted, details you cite. I sense that you’re willfully engaging in administrative 3-Card Monty.
        I researched this whole thing and found exactly what I said in commenting. All our family’s BCs are Certs of Live Birth with notary seals…going back to New Orleans, LA in 1923. They are acceptable everywhere—except in the paranoid, conspiracy-fearing minds of “birthers”.
        Furthermore, the original document IS really part of an original record kept by the Bureau of Statistics/Births and Deaths in a series of volumes which are centralized, permanently bound in over-sized ledgers. When a copy of a BC is requested the Registrar of Vital Statistics issues the official certified copies. That’s why they are called “certificates”—they’re certified. How is that so difficult to grasp?

  • Since Romney’s father was born in Mexico, based on Donald Trump and the other birthers’ attacks against President Obama, that would disqualify Romney as being a legitimate U. S. citizen. Where is the long form of his birth certificate? Where is the outcry from Trump and the other birthers for Romney to produce a legitimate long form birth certificate? It will never happen. Why? Because the issue has never really been about President Obama’s legitimacy as a U. S. citizen. The truth of the matter is that it has always been thinly-veiled racism hiding in the guise of all of these ignorant, stupid and ilegitimate claims made by these racists. Their hatred for President Obama is so vitriolic and so intense that they would rather support a member of a religious cult, a failed governor, a flip-flopper and an etch-a-sketch candidate. Since voters would not accept a right-wing extemist candidate as the Republican presidential nominee, these extremists had to settle for someone whose views were opposite their extreme views. In other words, they COMPROMISED their so-called non-compromising principles. What a bunch of self-loathing HYPOCRITES!

    • camaguebex

      Not quite the same thing as there is no question that Mitt Romney was born in the U.S. His father George Romney is not running for the Presidency but both his parents were Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico. The Bingham amendment to the American born clause makes it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency which is the reason why Obama qualifies for the office because his mother was a natural born citizen of the U.S. therefore he has dual citizenship because neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, had natural born U.S. parents. It has nothing to do with racism and to tell the truth I voted for Obama only because I thought it was high time for an African-American to be President of the U.S. because rest assured that if he would have been white, I would have never voted for him.
      As a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.

  • Romney, if he had any guts, would have refused to release his birth certificate and said there was no
    need for Obama to have released his.

    • Well we all now know that Romney is a coward and will be a puppet for the extremists.

  • What will Trump do now? It is merely a live birth document which Trump disclaimed as insufficient when it was the President’s, so I am with recompile, where is the long form? I am though increasingly disquieted by this presidential campaign and its tone and lack of real content has me gritting my teeth and praying the majority of Americans feel as I do and will work very hard to remove all of Congress so we can send a message that the public requires all of you to do the job we sent you there to do: “represent us; those of us who sent you. I will be watching Wisconsin closely to see how divided those in that state are and where their true interests lie.

  • mdd233

    Who cares? Let him…if he ‘fortunate’ to be elected, show me some jobs.

  • camaguebex

    Not quite the same thing George Romney is not the one running for the Presidency and both his parents were Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon in Mexico and the Bingham amendment to the American born clause made it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency.
    As a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.
    Neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, have natural born U.S. parents either. This point is moot in reference to the parents, the only valid question is whether the candidate was or was not born in the U.S. and a newspaper birth announcement is not proof of citizenship. A certificate of live birth is done at the hospital at the time of birth and sent to the Vital Statistics this is why a long form “Certification of Birth” or a Naturalization certificate is required to request a U.S. passport . Then what is all the hoopla about?.
    It is very simple, when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order. In other words a “Certificate of Live Birth” can be tampered with while a “Certification of Birth” can never be altered.
    So, when an adopted person orders a birth certificate – whether it’s a “photocopy” of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will only show the adoptive name of the child and the names of the adoptive parents. The problem is that official documents like these can be legally tampered with to create a fake legal document.

    • Get over it. Obama was born in the U.S. You birthers are pathetic, hateful and desparate!

  • barbara oconnor

    They should. If his daddy was born in Mexico does that not make him a natural born citizen? I believe that was the complaint birther crowd had with Obama. Could be wrong it would not be the first time in my life. Besides I do not like either candidate as I feel the public is being given a choice between Hitler and Stalin, which is no choice at all!

  • camaguebex

    Not quite the same thing as George Romney is not running for the Presidency but both his parents were Utah born American citizens doing missionary Mormon work in Mexico. The Bingham amendment to the American born clause made it quite clear that anyone born abroad to U.S. parents is eligible to run for the office of the Presidency which is the reason why Obama qualifies for the office because his mother was a natural born citizen of the U.S. thereby he has dual citizenship because neither Barack Hussein Obama Sr., born in Kenya, nor Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo, born in Indonesia, had natural born U.S. parents. As a matter of fact George’s maternal family the Pratts headed the Mormon mission in that country but the most important thing is that George Romney never received Mexican citizenship, because the country’s nationality laws were restricted to jus sanguinis statutes due to prevailing politics against American settlers after the Texas incident when U.S. born settlers who had renounced their citizenship and became naturalized Mexican citizens rebelled and stole that part of Mexico to form the Republic of Texas which later joined the Union.
    This point is moot in reference to the parents, the only valid question is whether the candidate was or was not born in the U.S. and a newspaper birth announcement is not proof of citizenship. A Certificate of live birth is done at the hospital at the time of birth and sent to the Vital Statistics Bureau, this is why a long form “Certification of birth” or a Naturalization certificate is required to request a U.S. passport. Then what is all the hoopla about?
    It is very simple, when a child is adopted, the state where this is done, creates a NEW “Certificate of live birth” that shows the child’s new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents and the original “Certificate of live birth” containing the names of the original biological parents is “sealed”, meaning that it is locked up and can never be opened again without a court order.
    In other words a “Certificate of live birth” can be tampered with quite easily while the original “Certification of birth” can never be altered but a NEW one can be created to show the adopted parents as the “original biological” parents thereby creating a fake legal document. So, when the adopted person orders a photocopy of a “Certificate of live birth” or a computer copy of a “Certification of birth”, it will now only show his new adoptive name and the names of the adoptive parents even though the people who will now appear as the “real” parents are not his original biological parents.

  • camaguebex

    That is why there are still all these problems around today to contend with but really at this point who cares to hear about it again from one side or the other.

  • Well, in the first place, his mother was born in the United States. That alone makes him a citizen of the US. Then, too, many babies are born to citizens of the US while they are out of the country. The first to come to mind is the military and their families. Perhaps Mitt’s parents were vacationing in Mexico.

  • He is not American! he is Mexican LMAO !!!!

  • This looks like a forgery to me. I demand an investigation!

  • This is a PHONY birth certificate. Show the real ONE which Mitt was BORN in MEXICO!!!

  • The Romney camp is chucking a bluff. I have heard from our lawn guy who knows someone who was friendly with the Romney family in Mexic0 and he told me that Mitt was born in Mexico and unless he can produce the real, original birth certificate with the raised stamp on it I do not feel he is legaly able to become president. Of course this is only my opinion.

    • camaguebex

      Your source of information is wrong, as Mitt Romney was born in Detroit on March 12, 1947, so he is a bonafide American born citizen. Whether he chooses to provide the long form “Certification of birth” is another matter but not necessary as there is no doubt as to where and when he was born. Looks like the time has come to look for better disqualifying motive. Had it been Mc Cain perhaps it would have been fodder for an interesting story.

  • Janet Tucci

    Yes, but is Mitt’s dad really his dad? After all, he is part of a sect that once, and still in some cases does, promote polygamy. So how are we to know if Mitt’s dad is his biological father? I think a DNA test is in order!

  • 5years2go

    DOB: 03/12 /1947 ; DF: 03/17/1947
    plenty of time to smuggle little mitten from canada and leave him on the hospital doorstep.

  • trucker48yrs

    Trump and other Birthers cant be bothered with TRUTH!!

  • so Mitt Romney is an “anchor baby” ? ….Michelle Bachmann should jump on that ?

  • JackieAllen

    I find it interesting that Obama got all the way to the Congress as a Senator, without anyone
    even giving a thought to his citizenship. Now, I could be wrong, but I don’t remember a
    call to arms over this issue at the time. Not until it appeared that Obama was going to
    run for president, did all the nit wits begin the assault on him as a noncitizen. Funny????
    And every time you think, “this is so stupid–how could anyone believe THIS—plenty of
    them do. The Republicans would have jumped on this immediately, if not sooner, if some
    how, in the usual feeding frenzy, they over looked something.