By Joe Conason

Neutron Jack And The Jobless Numbers Conspiracy

October 5, 2012 5:45 pm Category: Memo Pad, Politics 59 Comments A+ / A-
Neutron Jack And The Jobless Numbers Conspiracy

Opening yet another front in their endless war against reality, right-wing conspiracy-mongers have moved on from polling data to federal unemployment statistics, apparently because  — like the political polls they’ve disputed in recent weeks — the latest jobless number is not sufficiently damaging to President Obama.

Shortly after the Bureau of Labor Statistics released its September unemployment numbers on Friday morning, showing that the jobless rate fell last month from 8.1 percent to 7.8 percent, outraged expressions of doubt began to appear on the Internet.

Nobody cited any substantive evidence to support allegations that the BLS had suddenly “cooked” its data to promote the president’s re-election, of course. Evidence isn’t required or expected in Fox Nation.

What sustained at least momentary interest in this new “truther” flurry, however, was a Twitter effusion from Jack Welch, the former General Electric chairman, who described the BLS number as “unbelievable” and complained that “these Chicago guys will do anything” because Obama “can’t debate.” (He later admitted to Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball, “I have no evidence to prove that [the White House influenced the BLS], ” adding disingenuously that “I just raised the question.”)

Although Welch is superficially a credible figure — indeed, still an idol in certain quarters of American business — he is also a particularly enthusiastic and volatile Romney surrogate. “Neutron Jack,” as he used to be known,  admires Romney deeply, perhaps because both have become symbols of “corporate greed, arrogance, and contempt for workers.” His tweet about the BLS was a political expression, not an expert assessment, and invites skepticism. But Welch certainly is familiar with dubious numbers and political manipulation.

Several years after he retired from General Electric in 2001 — where his legendary managerial successes brought him accolades as the “CEO of the century” in the business press — the Securities and Exchange Commission opened an investigation of the company’s accounting practices. What the SEC eventually uncovered were long-running schemes to inflate earnings, reminiscent of Enron.

While nobody held Welch personally accountable, the violations that cost the conglomerate $50 million in fines occurred on the watch of the chief financial officer he had appointed in 1998. Other accounts of questionable business practices at GE date back much further.

More pertinent than GE’s accounting misadventures is Welch’s controversial role in the 2000 election, when he became known as an outspoken supporter of George W. Bush. (Considering the dismal history of the Bush presidency, voters might think twice before taking Welch’s political advice this year.)  At the time, GE owned NBC and its cable networks CNBC and MSNBC, and Welch was known to make his presence felt in the studios and newsrooms. Nobody at 30 Rock had the slightest doubt about Welch’s hatred toward President Clinton and the Clinton administration, or about his desire to see Clinton replaced by Bush.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7DKWSXHQIDBW5PUAPZ2HZAYYUY Baron Cormac

    Considering he was one of the people responsible for the elimination of hundreds of thousands of US jobs during his tenure at GE, he really has no room to talk about anyone else’s history of job creation or unemployment.
    I know people who lost work due to his shutting down plants wholesale and farming those same jobs out overseas just to save on labor costs and dealing with unions. Then he turned around and sold the now less-expensive-to-build products for the same price reaping huge profits. Yeah, He had the best interests of his company. Well, maybe not the whole company. Maybe just the major shareholders – not the guys buyng shares from their pay to have a decent living when they retired.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/CVVR3SYDWGMOSYJBUXICDDK74A Doctor T

      Thanks for that bit of information. All fits in with his blustering on the Matthews show yesterday. What a nasty old geezer!

      • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

        LOL Yes I Seen That And He Looked Stupid Cause Chris Went All Hardball On Him And He Had No Proof !! Just More Lies!!! These People Really Think Everybody Is Dumb And Stupid!!! Just Like Romney Lying Butt Turn His Whole Campaign Around Now He For What He Was Against!!! LOL

    • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

      He did a lot more than just layoff employees and cut benefits to reduce operating costs and increase profits, he also sold GE real estate and other assets to give the impression GE was exceeding shareholder expectations to increase the value of stock. Jack Welch should not be trusted and does not deserve the recognition he has enjoyed for decades.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

        That Old Bastard Need To Be Retired And Enjoying What Little Life He Has Left!!! I So Sick Of These Old Half Dead Greedy Bastards Whining Cause They Want More!! Old Dudes You Not Going To Spend What You Hoarded Already!!!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

          Fernie girl: Obama 181 million and Romney 12 million?? !!
          Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaa!!!!!!!
          You and your 11 ” Likes” are CRAZY !!

          … and on November 6th, you are going to get the surprise of your lives, you Occupy Wall Street Socialists !!

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            It May Be You Who Will Be Surprised Cause Due To The Fact That Romney Is A Low Life Liar And A Sociopath Bully And An Animal Abuser Win Your Broke Ass Will Be SCREWED Too Cause Your Dumb Ass Is Not Rich Troll!! You Better Wake The Fuck Up LOL Cause Romney Is Running For Himself And The Wealthy Americans Stupid Fool!! LOL Plus Since You Didn’t Get On The Banana Boat Romney Will Make Sure Your Ass Get The Hell Out Of Here !! Stop Watching Fox Fake News And Sucking And Kissing Koch Brothers And All Rich People Asses Tea Bagging Brain Dead TROLL!!! It’s Hard To Ship Nurses Jobs When The People Who Need You Are Here !!!LOL

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            Me Myself Got Skills I’m A Nurse Bitch My Job Stays In Demand!!! You Dumb Ass Is The One Who Might Want To Be Worried!!! LOL I Got A Great jobs With Money In The Bank Also Great Investments And I Didn’t Have To Screw Over My Country Or My Fellow Americans To Get It Either!!! LOL You Are One Of The Dumb Ass Fools Who Will Vote For A No Good Lying Sociopath Cause Romney Is Armed With Bush Old Staff And You Think Things Has Been Bad Your Dumb Ass Is In For A Rule Awaking!! Romney Is Bush On Crack, Meth And Steroids!!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002275741110 Leo Sullivan

            please obama gets so much money but he spends it like a little kid on stupid stuff while mitt has money way more than king obama

  • timholloran

    This whole cooking the books claim is a show. Welch and other co-conspirators know damn well the jobs numbers are not cooked. They want to influence voters to think it. As for the election. Romney won the debate as Obama pretty much chose not to participate in debating Romney. FOR Romney to win the elction I figured eveything has to go his way going forward. If the jobs report had been similar to last months. That would have increased the MO for Romney and really hurt Obama. But the jobs report fits into Obama’s narrative and Bill Clinton’s belief at the convention the economy is indeed getting better albeit at a slow pace. SO Obama has the next 2 debates to make a much better attempt at defending his record and government. Polling showing a Romney bounce from debate. It’s Obama’s job going forward to mute that bounce. The jobs report has helped with that cause.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002275741110 Leo Sullivan

      really really you havent been to the local employment office so you dont have a clue nexted

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B6RROC4IUESHT322QS5VJVPYRM Lynda

    As Jack Welch made very clear today nothing is worse than active ignorance.

    • daniel bostdorf

      The actual wording comes from Thomas Gray’s poem, “Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College” (1742): “Where ignorance is bliss, ’tis folly to be wise.”

      A little knowledge is a dangerous thing: This maxim, originally a line from Alexander Pope’s An Essay on Criticism (1709), has been repeated with slight variations ever since. It is still heard, although less frequently, and sometimes shortened, as in the example.

      A little Learning is a dang’rous Thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring.
      [1711 Pope Essay on Criticism l. 215]

      For shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
      And drinking largely sobers us again.
      Fired at first sight with what the Muse imparts,
      In fearless youth we tempt the heights of arts,
      While from the bounded level of our mind,
      Short views we take, nor see the lengths behind;
      But more advanced, behold with strange surprise
      New distant scenes of endless science rise!

      Note that the poem says “Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring.” This excerpt makes the quote the opposite of ‘ignorance is bliss.’ It means that learning little is a dangerous thing, and that you should learn a lot so too drink from the Pierian Spring, which is either defined as a spring in Macedonia, sacred to the Muses, or as a source of inspiration.

      NEUTRON JACK’S shallow thoughts are embarassing

  • turtlewoman1039

    The only ‘facts’ or ‘statistics’ that the republicans/tb’s/talibangelists believe are the ones that they themselves MAKE UP.

  • a80a

    go back a lot of years and see who was one of the first to start moving jobs to mexico. the smoothing irons div. of G E you all may not be as old as I, but you can check it out .

    • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

      You Got That right That’s What I Have been Saying All Along It’s People Like Jack And Romney The So Called Wealthy Business Men Been Sellout The American People And America They Have Been Shipping The American Jobs Overseas For Years Now Just To Make More Money That They Know They Don’t Need!! They Have So Much Money Now They Will never Spend It if They Live To Be 100!!! The American Taliban Our Very Own Home Grown Terrorists Cells Operating In Plain Sight!!!:-( Now They Worried About Jobs !! LOL It’s All Bullshit!!

  • middleclasstaxpayer

    What IS left out is the millions of formerly employed who NO LONGER are seeking work…they have been forced to give up because of the very bleak jobs market. Were these “no longer-seeking-jobs” folks included in the unemployment numbers, the unemployment rate would easily top 11 Percent, the worst “job recovery” since the Great Depression.

    • BDC_57

      all because you tea baggers.

      • middleclasstaxpayer

        Just stating a clear fact…not blaming anyone. What is your problem?

        • daniel bostdorf

          You are a liar…

          Stop distracting us with your right wing, Foxnews, Rove, Koch Brothers, Limbaugh Beck lies and distortions. Don’t you have any original thoughts of your own other than spewing back the propaganda of these fascists?
          No you don’t!

          Maybe you ned to be reminded a few more times….Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels said it best:

          “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” (like Fox FAUX news, Limbaugh, Beck and Rove believe)

          or as Adolph Hitler stated:
”Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

          Keep lying and distracting us Stoll….we know who and what you really are.

          Again, I suggest that you post at Fox FAUX News and other right wing Teaparty websites where you will fit in very nicely.

        • http://www.facebook.com/maggie.croft.92 Maggie Croft

          middle, clear facts are not in your repertoire. Try again.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            OK, try this….44 months with unemployment at 7.8% OR MORE, with no end in sight.

          • Peoples425

            Well, considering that we’ve had 30 months of straight job growth, I would think that there’s a lot of ending going on, but there’s not much in terms of conservatives mentioning that fact.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            The “job growth?” you cite is so low it cannot keep up with the continued job losses.
            And new job opportunities (Keystone Pipeline, renewed Gulf oil drilling, coal mines, etc) are actively discouraged by an administration that “claims” to be focused on jobs?? Obama did not even meet ONCE with his “jobs council” in over six months. If that’s his idea of “focus” I don’t think we can take four more years of it & survive!

          • Peoples425

            Yes and no, however the economy is moving forward regardless of that as the stock market and other indicators are moving forward.
            Concerning the environmentally destructive jobs that you’ve listed, you’re not one to really care or think of the health that we’re affecting on this planet. Considering we had several months of oil spilling into the gulf that is still being washed up on shore and coating the bottom of the gulf. Before you quote Romney’s debate argument, please make sure that you research the facts on that one. The green energy companies that have been invested in are turning around as well. Considering that much of the congress and other administrative officials have decided to make sure that they do not work with Obama on any bills he has tried to enact including the most recent one of the veteran’s jobs bill.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            Some of these things open to debate, but a fair assessment! Thanks!

      • 113121

        Remember when the teabaggers all pledged to not hire anyone until Obama was gone? Pledged.

        • daniel bostdorf

          Read the 13 volume set of Will and Ariel Durant’s “History of Civilization” before you post here..

          Ignorance for you is bliss..

          The actual wording comes from Thomas Gray’s poem, “Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College” (1742): “Where ignorance is bliss, ’tis folly to be wise.”

          A little knowledge is a dangerous thing: This maxim, originally a line from Alexander Pope’s An Essay on Criticism (1709), has been repeated with slight variations ever since. It is still heard, although less frequently, and sometimes shortened, as in the example.

          A little Learning is a dang’rous Thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring.
          [1711 Pope Essay on Criticism l. 215]

          For shallow draughts intoxicate the brain
          And drinking largely sobers us again.
          Fired at first sight with what the Muse imparts,
          In fearless youth we tempt the heights of arts,
          While from the bounded level of our mind,
          Short views we take, nor see the lengths behind;
          But more advanced, behold with strange surprise
          New distant scenes of endless science rise!

          Note that the poem says “Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring.” This excerpt makes the quote the opposite of ‘ignorance is bliss.’ It means that learning little is a dangerous thing, and that you should learn a lot so too drink from the Pierian Spring, which is either defined as a spring in Macedonia, sacred to the Muses, or as a source of inspiration.

          Your shallow thoughts are embarassing

          • 113121

            lol So you think you can erase this from the world of facts by adding a comment to this thread? I could suggest you read “The Outline Of History by H.G.Wells and quote Gelett Burgess it still will not change the fact that they pledged to not hire anyone. They were very proud of their efforts. I hope you are just forgetful and not willfully ignorant or even worse one of those whose religion encourages lying.

      • old_blu

        I heard this same thin from the blow up doll Rush, it’s a goverment conspiracy to make Obama look better. LOL

    • daniel bostdorf

      Lies…as usually from you…

      Stop distracting us with your right wing, Foxnews, Rove, Koch Brothers, Limbaugh Beck lies and distortions. Don’t you have any original thoughts of your own other than spewing back the propaganda of these fascists?
      No you don’t!

      Maybe you ned to be reminded a few more times….Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels said it best:

      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” (like Fox FAUX news, Limbaugh, Beck and Rove believe)

      or as Adolph Hitler stated:
”Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”

      Keep lying and distracting us middletaxpayer who hides behind a fake name…l….we know who and what you really are.

      Again, I suggest that you post at Fox FAUX News and other right wing Teaparty websites where you will fit in very nicely.

    • timholloran

      The GOP has used the same numbers Middle. Now because it was a good number for the COUNTRY but hurt’s Romney’s chance to win. The GOP backers are crying about this jobs number? Cry me a river the Republican party honchos could give a rat’s azz about these unemployed people. You really believe Mitt Romney a guy who bought out companies for investors and moved jobs overseas or laid off people gives a crap about the unemployed? REALLY? I know there is bluster from both sides. But I do agree with Obama’s team that that was a PERFORMANCE at the debate by Romney. Romney will get a bounce out of it tooo…. But this is a campaign and there are 2 more debates going forward. Can Romney pull off that performace 2 more times? Can Romney avoid a gaffe for the neext 30 days? I can’t recall how many times Obama has faced these supposed waterloos starting in the primary in 2008 and moving on to today. ASK Obama what was tougher. Wednesday nites debate or sitting through 40 minutes of the Bin Laden raid knowing if it failed and Pakistan had interfered with American forces dying. I’d say hands down that raid was tougher on Obama. Obama had a setback Wednesday nite and he is living another day to fight. A perfect debate line for Obama going forward will be Kennedy’s line from 94. For Romney the answer is multiple choice.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000154227782 Bart Grossman

      Were these “no longer seeking jobs” folks included in the unemployment numbers a few year back it would have topped 14% but the point is they’ve never been included. Unless you want to compare apples to oranges you have to use the same unemployment formula every month. Why wouldn’t you expect the worst job recovery since the great depression when you’ve just had the greatest economic catastrophe since the great depression? If Romney were to win and the unemployment rate went down you can be sure that Welch wouldn’t be questioning the numbers. I really get sick and tired of Republicans finding the black cloud in ever silver lining. I’m sorry to disappoint you but unfortunately things are getting better.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

        Bart Screw These Lying Losers They Just Mad The That Lying American Jobs And Companies Destroyer Romney Just Got His Ass Handed To Him!!! These Broke Ass Trolls No Where Near Have A 7 digit Bank Account They Are Just Brain Dead Cause Romney Is Working For Romney And The Wealthy They Broke Ass Will Be Cleaning Up The Horse Shit That Ann Horses Leave On The Floor For 5.00 Dollars A Day If They Are Lucky!! But We The Smart People Believes In Facts We Are Going To Stop This Low Life Greedy Bastard Dead In His Tracks Cause We Know He Only Going To help The Wealthy Only Cause That’s What Trickle Down Polices Are All About And The Trickle Down Polices Cause This Recession!! These Trolls Brain Are So Dead That They Can’t See When Clinton Got Rid of Them There Was NO DEBT And PLUS He Left Office With A Surplus!!! HEY ALL YOU BRAIN DEAD TROLLS TRICKLE DOWN IS ONLY GOING TO WORKS FOR THE RICH PEOPLE BRAIN DEAD IDIOTS!!!!! It Is So Sad That You Numbnuts Don’t Deal With Real FACTS!!!

    • Peoples425

      That would go hand in hand with the worst economy since the Great Depression so it’s not too different. Nobody wants to harp on the fact that this economy was started by the same policies that were enacted by Bush.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3Q2FI7T27VFBUFYYQPYGAVXVZU amazed

    It’s 1984. These people always accuse the Democrats of doing what in actuality they have been doing or done. Through the whole Bush debacle everything they said was backwards. Double speak is what it was called. Welch is a liar and is accusing the Democrats of doing what in reality he did himself. I sure hope Obama can get tougher on these people and especially Mitt Romney at the next debate.

    • FredAppell

      I hope so too because he isn’t the Obama that I voted for. He looks beaten down and I wouldn’t blame him if he feels that way. We were rough on Bush for eight years but not nearly as bad as it’s been for Obama. Some Democrats even abandoned him long ago. Most of America needs to learn that change doesn’t come over night. President Obama has made progress and he has earned four more years but we also have to give him a filibuster proof majority too. These nut-job conservatives scare the crap out of me and they’re masters at spreading confusion and doubt. They have shown us over the last twenty years that they like to govern that way.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

        All That Lying And Flip Flopping Stun Obama Hell It Stun Me Also!! But Along Came Karma BOOM 7.8 People !!!LOL

        • FredAppell

          I understand where you’re coming from Fern but even 7.8% isn’t all that encouraging. However, no president in modern history has had to deal with such an uncooperative government before. As for Romney flip flopping, well the president should have known that would happen. Romney has consistently lied to so many people that it takes a super PAC to do damage control. President Obama should have been better prepared to deal with him. There are still two presidential debates left. I can only hope President Obama can redeem himself.

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            It’s Encouraging Due To The Fact That The GOP/Tea Party Has NOT HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT ONE LITTLE BIT!! IN FACT THE ARE WORKING AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!! They Pledge Not To Help What So Ever In The Recovery Just Cause They Hate The Fact That A Intelligent Black Man Is In The White House And He’s Trying To Help ALL The American People Not Just The Wealthy!!! These Debates Really Don’t Mean Nothing To Me And The Smart People Of American Cause We Know Romney Is A Big Fat Lying Flip Flopping Sociopath And He Only Want To Win Cause Then He Can Make Even More Money For Himself And His Handlers Romney Don’t Give A damn About America Nor The American People!!! Mo Money Mo Money Mo Money , Power And Control Is All The American TalibanIs After And Money Is Number One!!!

          • fedupwitgop

            The sad thing is that all Romney had to say in this debate were lies. Some people would rather believe a lie if it sounds good, tickle their itching ears and is coming from a convincing lying face to compliment the lie!! So if he won the debate it was with lies. Yes I am a Christian, and believe what the Bible says “a liar will not tarry in His sight”. In essence, when we stand before our Creator to be judged by our words, thoughts, and deeds, Mr. Romney will be thrown straight into hell, he will not be able to flip flop and defend all his lies before the Almighty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pop.delgado Pop Delgado

    what a disgrace that people resort to lies or unfounded accusations without any proof whatsoeverfor the sake of a candidate that only cares about people only if they have money or power.i am proud to be one of the 47%.im also a republican without a formal education and yet i worked till i was 78 yrs. old and i manage to grab alittle part of the american dream without ever taking welfare or food stamps or unemployment payments i feel ashamed to have people like mitt romney and jack welch tramp on the feelings of folks that have tried to be and act like true americans evev though they do not have millions.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BUKAXZQL35Q2EWONW43CFZS4OM howard

    Denying basic mathematics is just the natural next step from a political party that has denied so much science over the years. Biology and evolution, physics and global warming, and now statistics used in polling or unemployment calculations… it’s not very hard to see the trend.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OIWHIIHWEWBKKLVU4FQS3XQQKE Todd

    Jack Welch is absolutley correct. That 873,000 people would suddenly get jobs in one month, just after Barack Obama made a fool out of himself in the debate, is more than cause for suspicion. That only 114,000 jobs were created in that same time period doesn’t give even liberals cause to wonder how this could happen is very telling. Jack tweeted before the debate that the unemployment rate would be manipulated to 7.9% before the election. The Obama administration pushed even harder on the scales than Jack could predict. Especially when the US actually has an unemployment rate of 14.6%.
    By the way,that chief financial officer Jack appointed is Jeffery Immelt, who has driven GE stock down into territory it never knew whan Jack was there.
    Joe Conason is a dishonest revisionist historian who would rather smear Obama’s detractors than tell the truth about Obama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/maggie.croft.92 Maggie Croft

    Interesting phenomena on these pages. I suggest all of you listen to the drugster and then read word for word, what he said, on these pages. No imagination. Nothing original.

    • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

      Here Come The Trolls!!! Like Rick Santorum Said It Best ” We Will Never Have The Smart People On Our Side!!! What That Tell You!!! LOL

  • latebloomingrandma

    Roger Ailes (and ultimately Rupert Murdock) seem to have set the tone for Fox News to be slanted pretty far to the right. I rarely watch Fox, but have never seen liberal leaning panelists or guests on any of their shows. The exception may be their Sunday morning show, which I understand is pretty fair and hard hitting to both sides. I’ll stand corrected if anyone tells me that liberals appear as guests or regular panelists on any of their other shows. How is it that NBC/MSNBC is labelled as far left liberal, when Jack Welch was at the helm for so many years? Don’t you think with all his power, he would have demanded a “tone” also? I have seen conservatives regularly on their shows. Morning Joe, very popular, has a pretty staunch conservative in Joe Scarborough. (He’s pretty conservative, because he gets on my nerves a lot. :) So—is MSNBC really that far left? To me, everything is lefty if you’re looking at it thru the lens of Fox News.

  • dljones

    Neutron Jack was not found guilty by the SEC. They stated their investigation revealed improprieties , specifically including fraud. On the heels of the Bernie Maddoff, they were aware they blew it. And it became a for seen conclusion this embarrassment was not going to reoccur. Accusing Welch of provable or unprovable events, and after several months researching evidence the SEC’s integrity was about to suffer further impunity. So not to appear losing, they agreed Welsh did not have to admit to anything and mutually agreed he pay $50 thousand resulting in the SEC agreeing to drop the case.
    Honeywell must be an upstanding company as Obama, after Welch retired, hired Jeff Emmel the new CEO to be a business advisor to the White House.
    I believe the figures are skewed and it will show up on or before the next report. 40+ months of 8.1%+ unemployment rate will not vary a 3% variance-either way. Even the experts have consistently hit it by 1%.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AZUK56N4OJGWHRKJSJSDGFTOXI Butch

    mr welch is soooo old as to make me wonder if he is saying this to get noticed (as a traitor)

  • howa4x

    Funny when ever the stats show weakness they are fine, now of course that they slipped below 8% the right is trying to discredit them. Well as they say ya can’t have it both ways.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IHJLGJRUUK5BQF4MQG6EETG6DM Erdalito

    He probably is afraid because his golden parachute from GE will be taxed higher. He never took down his halloween mask. What an angry and greed stricken old man.

  • OleSGTJoe

    I worked for Jack for twenty five years and all I have to say is liars figure and figures lie. Anyone can manipulate the numbers to justify their position. If you all believe the data that the Government presents are hard facts I have a bridge you might be interested in.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLT3BBICDAFJXQAHHKXXLJUCH4 Stella53

      Yet if the jobs report was what you wanted it to be, you wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Everything is a conspiracy with you paranoid, delusional wing-nuts. All you neo-cons do is whine, whine, whine.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

    Joe Conason: You poor excuse for a toilet: You and all of you Occupy Wall Streeters are soooooo desperate about the fact that Obozo will lose badly!!
    Poor Communist morons ….

    • BDC_57

      where your facts ? you like a slave to these tea bagging idiots. they have not did anything
      to help the country. all they care about ther rich buddies that got them in office.

  • daffodilly

    Why don’t we recognize that just because people are rich they can still become addled with age? Rich people can also be disgusting and repulsive just like some of the lower 99%.

  • CPANY

    So the myth of super CEO Jack Welch is eroded further. Too bad. If one combines that with his ex-wife’s divorce bonanza, one must conclude that he is surely in a serious funk.

    That may account for his erratic behavior.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002275741110 Leo Sullivan

    obama was so mad so saying the jobs fell by some little points big deal
    have you been to the local employment office lately thats what i thought
    go check one out all day then see what you find no ones got a good job less
    ur in washington d c..

  • jarheadgene

    Ha ha ha ….what a greedy looking evil little TROLL he is. I expect to hear his voice saying…..’My precious….where is my precious” FOX news runs this as fact….and let’s just guess how their report starts out…..”Some people say….”

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