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Monday, October 24, 2016

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Today we are releasing data from the latest survey by Democracy Corps and Women’s Voices Women Vote Action Fund — and the numbers aren’t good for the GOP.

Our poll shows that the congressional vote is moving against the Republicans. In July, our survey showed Republicans with a marginal 1 percent lead among likely voters. Today’s poll shows Democrats up by 3 points among that group. Among likely 2014 voters, 46 percent say they would prefer Democrats to control Congress, while just 42 percent would prefer Republican rule.

The trends beneath these numbers are important. Voters are not punishing both parties equally for the current mess in Washington. Republicans in Congress are now at one of the lowest points we have ever recorded, with 51 percent viewing them negatively — a 5 point increase since March. Voters remain disdainful of how they are handling their job in charge of Congress, with over two-thirds (69 percent) saying they disapprove; almost half (48 percent) strongly disapprove, a 6 point increase since July.

And on the big issue of the day — health care reform — 49 percent say the Democrats have a better approach, compared to just 35 percent who say Republicans do. When asked whether the GOP’s position on the government shutdown makes voters more or less likely to vote for their Republican incumbent, voters in Republican districts say”less likely” by a 6 percent margin.

This does not bode well for Republicans in 2014, given voters’ strong disapproval of the Republican Party’s current course.  As this intransigence appears to have no end in sight, we should expect Republicans to pay next November.

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  • 2hheels2

    That would be very nice but they seem to have themselves covered with all of gerrymandering they did in 2010. I hate this republican party controlled by the teaparty. The teaparty didn’t come to Washington to govern they are here to stop all government from working. Now that they control the republican party nothing gets done. It doesn’t look good for the USA surviving.

    • Harrowing

      Pretty much exactly. It’s comforting to think that all of this stupidity would lose the Republicans some House seats but gerrymandering makes that really, really unlikely. I’m not sure we’re going to see a Democrat-controlled House again for years, short of some sort of anti-gerrymandering miracle.

      • Yappy2

        Even with all the gerrymandering the people of those states are going to wake up and realize they are voting against themselves by voting Republican. When their children are staving and sick and get no help from their Republican representives they will turn on them. Democrats just need to get across to them who is the problem.

        • plc97477

          A new poll in the last couple of weeks says that if the election was held now the house would go to the dems. We need to do what we can to make it happen.

      • plc97477

        No they are going to lose some. I hope it will be enough to make the ones that are left wake up.

  • Cameron Glenn

    Obama could RIGHT NOW say, “I’m not going to sign any spending or debt limit increase bill unless there’s higher taxes on the rich and assault rifles are banned.” What do you think the Republican response would be then? ONLY WE GET TO BE BULLIES YOU KING TYRANT! WHHAAAA!!! The hypocrisy would be defining, yet that is literally the childish position the gop are using!!!!

    al-Qaeda instructed terrorists to destroy America’s economy; the gop fulfilled their wishes one better by destroying the U.S. economy and the U.S. reputation, all because of their boorish immature temper tantrum over not winning the last election. Disgusting!!!

    • nana4gj

      Amen to that! Republicans are finishing what al-Queda started.

  • Mark

    thats not that wide of a margin. i would expect it to be around 23% rather than 42.

  • Linda

    GOP is a disgrace. I am so glad my mom left the GOP in 2010 or I would disown her.

    • MVH1

      LOL. Good all around then. 🙂

    • nana4gj

      And my sister, also a staunch Republican, left the GOP during Reagan’s second term. I used to tell her I just could not understand her affiliation with the Republicans and she finally figured it out for herself.

      Of course, before Reagan, the GOP was much better, compared to what it became and is now. I realize that statement is “heresy” in that crowd, but, it’s true.

      • Yappy2

        I have two sisters that lean to the right, one really right. I don’t even want to talk politics with with her because she will go on and on with her extreme ideas and when I finally steip in and say how I feel she hangs up on me and then we don’t talk for awhile and sisters should not be that way.

        • nana4gj

          I know. The last discussion was during RR’s campaign. I dropped the subject and we never discussed it again until “W”‘s second term and she brought it up and worked on behalf of Kerry. She has volunteered tirelessly on Dem campaigns since, in local groups, in campaign offices, etc., and often asks me what I think of this one or that one, but she pretty much has a mind of her own.

          Sometimes, they have to figure it out for themselves.

    • danajack802

      I had the same experience. My Mom voted for Democrats for the first time in the 2008 election because of Air-head Sarah being on the GOP ticket .. And again in 2012 because of the tea-bagging traitors.

  • Jay Louis

    I can’t believe 42% of America wants these anti-democracy political terrorists to control anything ever again. The Republican Party needs to be sent to the dustbin of history to join the Whig Party.

    • Russell Byrd

      Maybe flushed? Ba-whoooosh!

    • Eleanore Whitaker

      Jay…I had one ultra rightie on my Facebook page tell me that this is not a democracy…It’s a Republican republic. See what we are up against?

      • Daniel Harrison Crawford III

        Those idiots don’t realize that a “republic” and a “representative democracy” – as well as a “polity” – are the SAME THING. LOL

        • Eleanore Whitaker

          They get enough of MY tax dollars that this kind of “ignernce” is inexcusable. Narrow minds…a wonderful thing to waste.

        • Elliot J. Stamler

          Daniel, you are dealing with folks who are the stupidest, most ignorant, semi-literate. uneducated rabble in the land. They think Sarah Palin is brilliant-they think Rush Limbaugh is even more brilliant. So what can you expect?

      • Shadow Diver

        It is not a democracy. It is a democratic republic. Google it. Pure democracy does not work. The majority could ban any type of life style they wanted. Under a republic there is the constitution and all the rules that follow.

        • Eleanore Whitaker

          Let me see if I’ve got this right 235+ years ago, our Founding Fathers created a Republic of the people, for the people, by the people, with democracy as the basis, but you think democracy that has lasted two centuries doesn’t work? So..let me guess…A confederacy is better? How about communism? How about fascism? How about dictatorship…You can drop the BS line that democracy doesn’t work…no other form of government has lasted as long as our US democracy…Every dictator has lasted only as long as his own lifetime. Communism is all but dead except in China and even that country has grown more democratic. Fascism? Deader than Marley’s ghost lo these many years. As for the Confederacy…that lasted less than 2 decades…Tell me how you can possibly live in some surrealistic world in a democratic society in the US and think it hasn’t worked for the past 235+ years. Your right wing ideology is on its way out. It’s a mortal, insidious anti-government disaster. No…you will NOT end our democracy even if you and the Confederates decide to wage your own Civil War.

          • Shadow Diver

            Eleanor stop being an idiot. For heavens sake. You live in a Democratic Republic. That means you have rules but you cannot deny rights to minorities. That is a good thing. Take a civics lesson before giving a speech. I am nowhere near right wing. I just hate idiots, tea party and libs who do not know the basic precepts of their own country.;

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Shadow Diver..Stop being a moron. I know what my country’s basic form of government is. That means you GOP Bull tyrants are not EVER going to supercede the Constitution with your deliberate misinterpretations. Take a civics lesson moron before your overbloated male ego bursts like a balloon..Stop playing that Great White Angry Fat Gut Middle Aged Male superiority routine.

            I also hate idiots. But I loathe the hot shot oh so superior morons who love to play Me King…You serf. Grow the hell up.

          • Shadow Diver

            Then you should have tried to point out that you are not half as ignorant as you some. Listen twat, I am at least as much of a lib as you. I hate the tea party and their stupidty. But the one thing I hate more are people like you, who are equally foul and stupid as the tea party. You did not even know what type of gov you have you foul mouthed hag.

          • Mike Maricle

            Yea, calling someone a “twat’ is taking the high ground.

            “Then you should have tried to point out that you are not half as ignorant as you some.”

            What does that mean?

          • Shadow Diver

            Hey dude read that twats rant and then let me know alright. She is an airhead, overly-aggressive loon. She belongs in the TP. Let the hag fight her own fights. She seems to live for it.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Shadow Diver…Any man who calls a woman what you do is the lowest of the low…You have anger management probs pallie…Get thee to a psychiatrist and fast. And…make sure you pay out of pocket for it…and not on MY state tax dollars like all porker state suck ups do.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Shadow Diver…Did Big Momma teach you how to use that filthy name calling mouth? Or was it Big Big Big Testicles Big Daddy…If I took any ground it wouldn’t be as low as yours. I don’t hate people like you. I just call the nearest psychiatric hospital and report another schizo sociopath on the loose. Let me clue you in…those aren’t nuts in your jeans…they are raisins. Po lil thang…Big Momma didn’t change his pampers and the mud is running down his legs. Or maybe that mud is your brains from too much boozing at Gheeeeleeee’s?

          • Desire

            Yup you have just proved without a doubt that you are Conservative douche bag calling a women names like that because she just happened to prove you wrong~

          • Elliot J. Stamler

            Fascism is not dead, ma’am – it is alive and thriving in the Republican Party of the United States and its stormtrooper wing, the Tea Party.

          • Eleanore Whitaker

            Most honorable, decent Americans will not stand for fascism in our own country. The one thing these loonies fear most is mob rule. That’s why I’ve never been afraid of these bulls. All bulls eventually are sent out to pasture when their days of calving is over.

            Already Cruz is getting the heat from the GOP bull tyrant biggies…as I predicted he would. He’s now getting the blame for swaying the issue to the ACA instead of debt. But, even that isn’t an issue the GOP can resolve unless they stop their wasteful spending and dole outs to corporations that don’t need tax help.

        • nana4gj

          And of course, there is the pesky question of that Constitutional Oath of Office that requires elected officials to support domestic tranquility and to protect the country for threats, foreign and domestic.
          They take oaths to unseen others and pledge allegiance to anyone with the highest bid and do all they can to inflict domestic threat that causes grave harm to the country that extends all over the world, making us more “exceptional” than they thought we were before.

      • ssnbbr

        Heh! they’re beyond reason. I pissed off all the ultra-righties on my Facebook page so much that they “un-friended” me. Good riddance,

    • Amelie

      Once President Obama leaves office, they may regain their objective sight. Right now they are blinded with rage over the Pres winning two national elections. From the local to federal level, Republicans are trying to reset the economy to where it was in the 1600’s. You can the endentured, slaves, merchants and tradesmen, and the wealthy controlling everying and everyone.

  • moiraeve1

    That’s what happens when you sit on your ass doing nothing, except shut down your country.

    • nana4gj

      and name post offices and legislate uterii.

  • Tony Michel


    • Alan Zukof

      That’s a grievous insult to nine-year-old spoiled brats — they can be made to listen to reason.

  • Mark

    Unfortunately, with gerrymandering and the fact that the election is over a year (and God knows what other insanity may happen), it’s a good bet that very little will change. Fact is, until we take legislative remapping out of the hands of politicians, we’ll continue to see Congressman for life.

  • Tony Michel

    Republicans are ignoring the Veterans and rejecting services services designated for Veterans. Republicans are intercepting the flow of bills to be passed and approved by Obama. Republicans need to be fired relieved of their duties because they dont know how to perform their duties they lack skills. We need to recall the defective G.O.P.

  • howa4x

    This poll shows what the arrogance of billionaire bros Koch and what they did to the republican party. These two brothers worth 31 billion each have used their money to create and support the Tea party. Freedom Works an organization of their creation threatens moderate republican to tow their extremist line or else face a well funded tea party challenge in their district. These men are so wealthy they could own their own private hospital, yet pour millions into adds trying to get people to refuse to sign up for health coverage. They could set up a foundation to pay for all the uninsured but choose instead to try and destroy health access opportunities for those in the most need. Their hatred of Obama has spilled money into the racist tealiban to obstruct the presidents agenda. Why? Because their want no restrictions on Fracking or any environmental safeguards and more tax cuts to increase their obscene wealth. They will drag the republican party down because they dwell in negativity. The tea party wants to harm the most vulnerable and that is why they won’t succeed in the end. They are an affront to any decent and moral person in this country.

    • nirodha

      Back in 1980, when David Koch ran as the vice-presidential candidate on the Libertarian ticket, he espoused a platform that called for abolishing Social Security, welfare and minimum-wage laws. In 2003, he provided start-up money for Americans For Prosperity, which helped to organize the Tea Party movement. More recently, a Koch brothers front organization, Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, donated $200 million to various groups dedicated to defeating the ACA.

  • Frank Celecia

    I’m and old white republican and I can not wait to get to the voting booth next year. The threat of not getting Social security payments and the casual attitude the republicans have regarding the stopping of this entitlement is a clear indication the Republicans need and ass kicking, and I’m ready to give it.

    • Dominick Vila

      Add MEDICARE to the mix, and plans to get rid of MEDICAID, a program used by tens of thousands of seniors to pay for nursing home care, and what we are dealing with is a train wreck the likes of which we have never seen before.
      The worst part is that the main reason for the Tea Party demands is limited to their refusal to consider a higher tax rate for the wealthiest members of our society, raising the SS contribution cap to keep that program solvent for future generations, eliminating loopholes that benefit the rich, and getting rid of subsidies for corporations that don’t need help from the public sector to profit and grow.
      The centerpiece of the GOP agenda is protecting the rights of the wealthy under the pretense that a prosperous business community and a wealthy elite guarantees prosperity for all. The fact that the tax rate reductions only produced deficits, accumulation of debt, high unemployment, and increased investment abroad is meaningless to them.
      When Clinton’s record, which includes adequate tax rates to cover outlays, and the prosperity and consumer confidence that existed in those days, in part because after many decades we put an end to deficit spending, accumulation of debt, and job growth, the typical answer is that Republican legislators had a lot to do with it. My answer to that is: if Republicans understood and supported Clinton’s policies and saw the positive results of such policies, why did they change them and resumed deficit spending and helping those who don’t need help at the expense of the middle class and the poor?
      To offset the consequences of lower revenues, the Tea Party has no choice but to focus on spending reductions, and since the DoD, Social Security, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, and interest on the debt add up to almost 90% of the budget their “solution” is to get rid of all social programs, keep the military at its current level, and let seniors, the handicapped and the poor fend for themselves. Fortunately, millions of Americans are beginning to understand the scope and impact of what the TP is proposing and no longer support their bizarre rhetoric, their solutions, and agenda.

      • Mark VanKirk

        Don’t forget immigration reform. Did anyone else notice but I that CBO found
        out that doing immigration reform that allowed a path to citizenship would help
        social security and medicad?

        • Dominick Vila

          Indeed. What a lot of people don’t understand is that illegal immigrants with fake SS cards have taxes and FICA taken out of heir paychecks, but since the SS cards are faked, they are not eligible to collect SS and cannot join MEDICARE. They are, in effect, subsidizing those programs even though they know they will never collect a dime.
          If immigration reform takes place and illegal immigrants are given permanent residency, they will be eligible for MEDICARE and SS, which would lessen the strain of an untenable SS contributor V beneficiary ratio.

      • nana4gj

        Well put. I believe in doing my part to help my country, but I am not amenable to doing ALL of it. I do not believe everyday people, but as I Senior citizen, retired, I especially am not amenable to having more and more taken away from me in order to protect those who don’t need SS or Medicare anyway. As a retired RN, I feel the same about those on Medicaid.
        Their solution destroys America as a land of opportunity and will just create another plutocracy with two socioeconomic levels, the very wealthy and the poor, complete with an oligarchy for government, cramming down the throats of citizenry what they want instead of representation of the people, by the people, for the people.

        • Yappy2

          This country has already been there and done that and we don’t need a repeat.Think back to the late 1920s and the 1930s. Roosevelt helped get us out of that and we were going along pretty good until Ronald Reagan became President. Bill Clinton got us back on track and then we got George Bush and President Obama is trying to get us out of that and is fighting a good battle against the crazies. You know the TEA Party..

      • Yappy2

        A big Amen!

    • stcroixcarp

      Not an “entitlement”, EARNED BENEFIT.

      • nana4gj

        You have to wonder what Ryan thinks of his Mother receiving her SS benefit and her Medicare. This is a woman who retired to a Senior living compound in Florida, plays golf, and leads a very nice life, comparable to the life she led in Wisconsin, minus the harsh winters.

        Maybe he should begin with taking her “entitlements” away.

        • july860

          Good comment. I have to wonder, however, if any of these people who are collecting these benefits, but financially do not need to do so, would ever give them up (considering they are an “entitlement”), I sincerely doubt it. My uncle and aunt were financially well off due to hard work on their part, and did not need these benefits, They therefore did not collect. I would LOVE to see one of these idiots do the same when their time came…

        • mwh191

          During the 2012 campaign he trotted her out like a cheap prop to demonstrate his devotion to seniors and their Medicare and Social Security. What a farce he is.

    • RNPRN

      I will be 65 next month and am looking forward to having health care no one can take away from me, without a $3500 deductable. I remember my grandmother, widowed the year I was born. She got a county welfare for her rent. She had no healthcare, when she needed surgery her children all chipped in and paid the bill. They all helped pay for her groceries, Dr. appointments. Her son and son in laws all fought in WWII. These republicans want to send us back to those times. I have paid into SS since I was 15, working two jobs most of my life. These people are NOT christians and are not patriotic. Otherwise, they would quit starting wars and sending money overseas and we would have plenty of funds to care for the American people.

      • nana4gj

        I know your work history. I am also an RN, retired for 5 years, having worked in my profession for 50 years, and also at other jobs before that starting at age 15 yrs.
        No, they are not christians, patriotic, but they are also not good economists, either. It does not make good economic sense to get out of debt by just slashing expenses, you need to increase revenue just as you and I did with two jobs at once. It doesn’t make sense to take away from those who have the least because those that have the most will not keep their businesses profitable with no customers, will not have anyone to provide all the services they need with which to maintain them; and do they really want to live in a place where the streets are in decay and sick and homeless people of all ages are littering them.

        They have taken as many jobs away from Americans as they possibly can with a systematic program that began with outsourcing and capital ventures, reduction in size of government workers, and now, with “furloughs”, that, given their way, would be permanent. Is it just another way to reduce the revenue paid into the system that would threaten SS and Medicare, et al, as well as reduce the size of that government they dislike and disdain, that they would also just about kill for in order to secure their own “entitlements” that having a seat in Congress provides? And once they destroy the government and eliminate most of the people’s expectations, what will they have to do once in office in a defunct government that does nothing. How much will they take in payola when there is no income at all?

        Now that they have made so many unemployed, they also intend to take away any kind of social support systems for them and those left with employment will be paying in to a system of government that does absolutely nothing but feather the nests of those in elected office to maintain them in a lifestyle to which they have become accustomed, which includes being able to live in their rent free government provided offices, using the gymn to shower, instead of being forced to pay rent somewhere like everyone else with their 6 figure salaries.

        • Amelie

          You can’t see me, but, I’m jumping up and down, looking for someone to high five!! Very well detailed, concise and coherent post.

          • nana4gj

            Thank you and Amen!

      • latebloomingrandma

        Seems as though you and nan4gj and myself, also a retired RN, are on the same wavelength.

      • Yappy2

        They are self-righteous Bible thumpers. I repect our military but frankly Ii don’t know why anyone would want to risk their lives and bodies to fight for this country because when they come home, if they come home, they do not have decent jobs or healthcare. The highways and bridges are falling apart. The Republicans do not want to pay to educate our children. It’s a hard life in this country unless you are one of the wealthy and it shouldn’t be this way.

        • Amelie

          I often feel my service in the military has been for naught when contemplating the idiocy of our Congressional representatives. I left service disabled. I too contributed to SS, paid my local, state, and federal taxes. This Sunday while leaving my neighborhood, a chain smoking TPer looked at my plates and began cursing at me, yelling about vets taking his money. Crazy.

          • nana4gj

            It is crazy and it’s good you recognize it. Please know that most of us honor and thank you for what you have done on behalf of all of us. “You did all that was asked of you”, as the President says. When you encounter these crazies, push that “delete”, “minimize” button in your mind and keep on keeping on!

          • Amelie

            Thank you.

          • Delinda Angelo

            My thanks to you and all the other vets who have served our country. I am reminded of Paul Ryan and his constant references to the “takers”. These people who belong to the Tea Party have taken your service in defense of our country, but now don’t wish to help pay for the damage it has caused you. I apologize for their disrespect of you.

          • Amelie

            Thank you. My job was to fix airplanes. From the big cargo planes to the Nightingale flying humanitarian missions. Each time I had to put my signature to sign a plane fit for flight, I knew peoples lives depended on our work. I believe in America, that its the best country in the world. The rest of the world also depends on us doing the best job we can of making this democracy function.

          • RNPRN

            Thank you for your service. My dad was a WWII vet, came back and worked for 35 cents an hour on a crane. Used his GI bill to become a journman machinist. As did my uncles. My brother in law is a Nam Vet. Recently treated for prostrate cancer, exposure to agent orange. Then there was my uncle, in the navy during WWII, re-enlisted in the army and at the Chosen Resavor during the Korean war. All they had was their SS. Politicians send our brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers to war. We owe you for your service period. We need to vote these politicans who won’t do what you did OUT.

          • Amelie

            Thanks for your post. VA has a program looking for older vets who are living on income below a certain level. If you can access the information on>Compensation>Pensions. These programs are always underutilized because vets are unaware of them.

        • nana4gj

          My first thought with all the threat that their families might not receive their benefits, pay while they are away on active duty and then, with the denial of the immediate survivor benefit on death, was that they who are away on active duty should band together and refuse to carry out any mission other than one of self protection.

          But then, those Americans are a ten times a cut above what is sitting in the Republican caucas in the House and in the Senate. They have no sense of duty and honor to anything or anyone. They demand Respect, however, at all and any costs. Really, I do not know how much lower they can sink than this latest sicko tactic and the defenses they use with which to try and justify it.

          If it were at all possible, I would join a class action suit with an ACLU attorney to sue them for the amount of money that has been lost every day of this shutdown, for the back pay and benefits of every one impacted by this shutdown; and for unspecified damages related to the threat of default on our credit rating, and, if it happens, for actual damages.

          How I wish we could do that. How I wish someone with the wherewithal could get that going and I would do all I could to help that person. Even if it is not a possible goal, it could accomplish a great deal that, apparently, ordinary feedback cannot.

      • ssnbbr

        Yes, definitely cut military spending and also get rid of corporate welfare. Hopefully younger folks also realize that if SS & Medicare go away, THEY will be the ones to pay for their parents’ survival (if they have the compassion, love and the $$). I remember my ailing grandmother being shuffled between my parents’ and my aunts’ homes for care… that is until they could no longer care for her so they sent her to a nursing home that they could afford. The awful, smelly old folks home she went to was an abomination. No way should the richest country on earth go back to that.

    • nana4gj

      I hope you realize they are also intent on addressing the entire “entitlement” issue whenever they do sit down to negotiate, and that they Ryan, when questioned why he did not name “Obamacare” as an entitlement that needed to be addressed when he listed SS and Medicare as needing to be looked at, he replied that, “Obamacare is another entitlement, so, of course, that is included.”

      They are re-litigating the Ryan Budget that was rejected by the people in a national election, so they intend to push it by force, using extortion and blackmail.

      I pay plenty for my Medicare with taxes paid into the system for 50 years, co-payments and deductibles for my share of the 20% that Medicare leaves, and for a Supplemental Policy that helps to defray the costs for my out of pocket costs. I also pay for my prescription plan which requires a monthly premium and co-pays and a deductible. Nobody is giving me anything for free. I’m not complaining, but pointing out the fallacies of their justification. Same goes for SS, into which I paid all those 50 years for the very modest monthly benefit that provides no luxurious lifestyle but that, when combined with other savings I managed and a modest lifestyle, I am able to live a decent life and not burden anyone in my old age.

      Keep alert because we may have to defend our right to exist in old age if this Ryan Budget picks up momentum and if our well being depends upon the

    • Jean Anne Lewis

      Let’s Kick Some GOP ASS! Vote Smart! Vote Blue In 2014!

  • Fact Finder

    24 seats are for the taking in lower house.

  • James

    Obama conceded a major major part of a proposed national health care: single payer, leaving health insurance companies gone with the buggy whip manufacturers. We are told that the Demos are ahead in 17 crucial Districts and I wonder how many of those Districts are gerrymandered. It would mean a significant groundswell in the making if any or all of the gerrymandered Districts were leaving their GOP folds.

    • JNagarya

      Learn how the legislative process works:

      If he hadn’t “conceded” — compromised — the bill would never have passed.

      Then you’d be whining about how he hadn’t compromised.

  • Debby

    i hope the American people DON’T FORGET…NO SELECTIVE MEMORY AMERICA.
    Vote these idiots out. They’ve hurt too many people. They need to lose their pay checks and see how it feels. They don’t earn them…never have. They work 3 1/2 days a week. Let’s say they show up 3 1/2 days a week. Remember America …vote them out. They don’t deserve anything. We need to downsize the House & Senate. If you’re not elected in for at least 30 years…no pension. No more freebies. You’re on social security, you’re on medicare. No special perks. No fair earning extra money because you are in your current position…Any monies earned…book deals, speeches, etc. goes back into the general fund. Start living like the rest of us and maybe, just maybe you’ll get your head out of your ass and start working.

    • Jack Goldman

      I understand where your coming from Debby and I also think that they should be denied pay while the Government is shut down. But, I also don’t want to discourage intelligent people from running for Congress by shutting down all incentives. we get enough dopes running for Congress under the present incentives. Some of them even get elected.

  • willog

    It is all well and good that an October 2013 poll should say that the Republican’s game is up and that they’ll lose control of the next Congress. But James, talk is cheap.
    If the country wants Congress to be under the control of the Democrats in 2014, then the Democratic Candidates must be elected, one by one. I vow to do all that I can to unseat Congressman DeSantis, Sixth Congressional District, who sings and dances to the T-Party’s every tune at the expense of Florida’s Flagler and Volusia Counties, men, women, and children , not to mention the rest of the country.
    Fellow Americans desiring a change in leadership at Congress should focus on their own Congressional Representative first to see if they want to rehire that politician or employ another one. Then they should make their opinion known to their circle of friends. If you are disappointed enough with Congress, take action and fix the problem in your own backyard first.

    • RNPRN

      Recently retired, I am working non stop on 2 democratic campaigns for the next year, for a Dem govenor and rep in congress. We all must work locally to change things in Washington and VOTE.

      • nana4gj

        Would you happen to be in Texas?? That is where I am. I, too, an working with “Organizing for Texas” to elect a Democrat Governor Wendy Davis, and every Dem I can to US Senate and House whenever I can and to State Legislature. I am also completely retired RN since January. If only for the decimation of health care in Texas, though there are many other reasons, we need a huge colonic in our representations by polilticos.

        • RNPRN

          No, I am in Wisconsin. The dem that ran against Paul Ryan last year is considering run again. Ryan only won with 10%, used to win with 60%, no contenders. Rob Zerban got 43
          % of the vote a small business man. You know, Paul Ryan that wants us to take vouchers for our Medicare. Who never held a real job except being the driver of the weiner mobile for Oscar Meyer, who collected survivors benefits under Social Security and now wants to gut SS. And new anouncement for contender for Scott Walker, for gov. I will be donating my time on that campaign also. I will work tirelessly to get these people elected. Go Wendy Davis!

          • nana4gj

            I followed that campaign in Wisconsin closely since Ryan was also running for VP at the time and I followed Rob Zerban closely, too. I found him so impressive because he was personable in a comfortable in his skin kind of way, easygoing with people, naturally at ease, clearly, very genuine and authentic person.

            He was smart, practical, and one who I thought met one of my important criteria, that he could conceive, develop, and implement policy that was applicable to the human condition and the way things should operate. Something lacking in Ryan that I found glaring. And everytime Ryan was before the public, interviews, debates, campaign appearances, his awkwardness and ineptness and inability to relate in a genuine way with the interviewer or the masses, told me he was not authentic. Of course, we all learned of his illustrious work history, his family situation that one would think he would not need to access survival benefits in order to fund college or that maybe his mother would not need her SS or Medicare while living in a gated retirement community in Florida since he hates “entitlements” so much.

            I will be thinking good thoughts toward your efforts. Zerban is a good man and anyone would be better than Scott Walker. Think good thoughts for us in Texas. We have a humongous task and if we even manage purple before we get to blue, I will be thrilled, but we must take the Governor seat away from the Republican Conservatives. All quality of life issues in Texas have suffered dearly in the Mad Hatter’s tenure not to mention we, as a state, are the national laughing stock. Unfortunate because we have some very, very good people who are Texans.

        • latebloomingrandma

          Haaaa! High, hot and a helluva lot!!

  • Derek Bennett

    It’s time for a change. Vote for us and there will be 2 shows on Friday and Saturday nights on the House floor with $10 buckets in the Cloak Room.

  • JNagarya

    This all began with bobble-head puppet Reagan. Behind the teanuts are such anti-Americans as Edwin “Mr. Ethics” Meese, and troglodyte Roger Ailes. We saw the first overt attacks on our system of gov’t with the effort to drive Clinton from office, along with which came Rove’s statement that they are about establishing a permanent Republican majority: a one-party system.

    Knowing those facts is sufficient to end any affiliation with the Republican party, beginning and ending with not voting for them.

    A vote for Republicans is a vote for civil war.

    • nana4gj

      And that, my friends, is how you say it: truth, hard reality, and facts.

  • GaelicWench

    Boehner is waiting until the “11th Hour” to turn things around. Plain and simple…..

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    In foreign media, the view is that a handful of GOP Bull tyrants have shut down the government for no reason other than male ego. It’s why you hear Boehner say, “We won’t make concessions.” and …”We won’t allow an unconditional surrender.” What the hell are these GOP bull tyrants talking about? Are they waging a war with a handful of bloated, drawling, swaggering male egos against they own government? Is this a Civil War and no one but the GOP bulls are doing “battle” and making war “demands” of the president and entire country?

    No one outside the US believes that the world’s greatest super power is now solely in the hands of 5 male egos who refuse to negotiate without demands. This is how stupid these idiots are..they’ve already infuriated millions of Americans, caused their own country massive embarrassment and all to save their too bloated egos?

    What about the “UNITED” States don’t these aholes get? It is not their Constitutional right to do anything but work toward mutual agreements. Is that what these GOP tyrants are doing when they walk 20 of them into a meeting with the president today and then hand him his marching orders?

    In the words of the title of one famous movie….”Hang “em High!” Take those 5 lunatic fringe anti-government bloated egos and punish them for their attempts at demolishing our government and trying to hand it over to corporate thieves.

    They lie when they say they want to reduce the national debt. Then, why hand Corporate welfare out in the billions to Big Oil year after year? Why start a war in Iraq that handed $350 billion to Halliburton alone? Is that debt reduction? Or more porker state plantation mentality?

  • DakotaErikson

    The GOP is the American version of the Taliban we sent our kids to fight in Afghanistan. So why do we allow similar groups to have any weight in our country? Send in the drones.

  • Keith Rebar

    WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. I still support the GOP’s efforts to reform our governments irresponsible spending (investment) policies. The debt we are dumping on my three children is irresponsible to the max. Vote for your GOP candidate for the sake of our chilldren.

    • Paul Bass

      Right, for the sake of GOP children, if you’re poor, minority, women, or Democrat, please just die early, we don’t want YOU voting.

      BTW deficit for last Bush year ~$1.4 trillion, current annual deficit under Obama ~ $680 billion. Yea, so vote GOP to continue to screw our children and grandchildren!

    • GetRealAndGoToWork

      GOP racked up the debt and Dems get blamed for it. As you may recall Reagan tripled the national debt. Bush also promise “No new taxes” … remember that? Hmm, here look at the new taxes he gave us. Do you recall that country was in the “black” with Clinton? Do you recall a vendetta war on Iraq (not really about weapons of mass destruction, a lie)? … just leave that to the Dems to pay right and blame them? Do recall that by deregulating the banks (a GOP initiative) allowed banks to invest in bad choices and nearly caused another “Great Depression”? When Obama took office he had to deal w/ the nice GOP mess! Finally, we are recovering.

      I guess when the Dems are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. You must be RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.


      What is happening now is how ultra right fascists take power. Shall we install Tea Party in all positions in government soon? Whatever you say Chancellor Bhoener, lest I be identified as a Muslim or worse a liberal. And, shall we also start extermination of Muslims?

      Do you see any parallels in history w/ what happened in the early 1930s?

      If you really want to stop dumping of debt on children, I suggest you get some coffee, stop watching Fox News, learn about denial, study history and vote against traitors and tyrants.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        I’ve said it before, these Shut Down Voting Republi-cons are Traitors.

        There is no other way of describing it.

        Congress isn’t necessarily loaded with Tyrants. But, their Corporate Backers absolutely are.

        There is really only 2 “legal” ways of taking care of this. You have to either recall them from office, or get them out of office when its time for re-election.

        In the final conclusion, we the voters put these bastards in office. We, the American Voter, is where the blame should be placed. And, we are the blame for letting them stay in office, let along sending them back time after time to repeat the same thing over and over again.

        Hopefully, by replacing them all, we’ll have elected officials that work for the country and its people, rather than for themselves or their corporate backers. But, I doubt it. It’s simply not the way the structure of our government operates. IF you think it does, you’re living in a pure illusion.

    • RNPRN

      The GAO has attributed $11 trillion of the $17 trillion debt to GW Bush. Obama had decreased the debt over the last few years. Blame the GOP for running up the deficit and trashing the economy.

    • Yappy2

      The GOP, especially the tea party, doesn’t care about this country, your children or my children or grand-children. They are destroying this country. They think if they say we are spending too much enough times then it must be true.

  • edsopafan

    The Signature vote for 2014 in Mitch McConnell being defeated.

    I am an independent. I believe as Washington and Jefferson described this government will fall IF WE the People do not take our government form back. They said that when the people acquiesce to groups running the government, the government would fall. Well by voting for a party the voting America has acquiesced its
    responsibility and government. Time to take it back. Yours and my representatives want the inflated salaries and benefits while not doing their jobs. So Vote Out All Incumbents.

    Usually voters say the system is broken because the other guy is at fault. Guess what your representative contributed to the Dysfunction either directly or indirectly. They all go by Party Rule. The people need to vote for the We the People government rule.

  • terry b

    Pretty hard to support a party who is commonly referred to as the Nazi party or even more correctly so, the American Taliban. Treating women as second class citizens is a good way to eventually allow the democratic party to get all of congress to start accomplishing things that sorely need to get done. Too bad that a once great party has turned so far to the right that they are clueless as to what the difference is between right and wrong. The left wing of the democratic party is no where near as dangerous as is their opposites. It would be nice if logic and common sense would be used more often in making decisions, political or otherwise rather than ignorance or religious zealotry.

  • James F Sanders Jr

    I don’t understand Social Security and Medicare being referred to as “entitlement” programs. These are insurance programs into which I paid premiums all of my working years. And now I am faced with not receiving my monthly benefits because of this shutdown by the Republicans? The Government can just step in and stop the benefits that I and millions of others have worked and paid for “By Law”?

    • stcroixcarp

      You are absolutely right. Always refer to your social security and medicare as EARNED BENEFITS. The republicans have made entitlements a dirty word. We need to reframe their thinking.

      • RNPRN

        Are they entitled to life long healthcare after a term, full pension bennies, on and on? They are the entitled. They don’t earn what they get with their 3 day work weeks, working 100 days a year with 265 days off.

        • nana4gj

          Are they also entitled to live rent free in their Congressional offices in DC? They pay no rent, no utilities, and they vow to make sure that the rest of us must do so on reduced incomes, no incomes, and “pick ourselves up by the boot straps” and to quit “mooching” with our hand outs.

          Then, they solicit financial contributions from us so they can live an entitled life that includes “sheltered employment” with no possibility of being removed from their job for non-performance or malpractice, until, if we are lucky, can vote them out, if we still have a vote and they haven’t taken it away from us or engaged in shenanigans that nullifies our votes.

  • halslater

    The Law of Unintended Consequences at work again. By gerrymandering those districts the GOP has created a monster-like crybaby they cannot control. Lacking in moderation, they take things too far and alienate most people, even in their district. This could result in very high voter turnouts which is never a good thing for the GOP.

  • maggie

    i dont understand why anybody calls social security a entitlement it is not it is our money and employers money that paid into social security it is a earned retirement and the politian should not be able to touch it they are the reason it is broke because they borrow from it and dont pay it back they are theifs it is not there money

  • B. Jones

    October 1st the NYC Daily News posted a pocture of John Boehner with a caption that read
    “House of Turds”. I found this accurate because a turd is a waste product and this congress has been a WASTE of time. indifferent to the poeple of this country and an embarrasment to the world. Thye need to be FLUSHED..Boehner as the leader going first.

  • lynn larson

    I can only hope that the extremists who have no regard for anything but their own ideology will be tossed out!

  • Avon Bellamy Sr.

    Frank, Dominick, thanks for your comments. I’m 72 and have voted Republican and Democrat based on the lesser of the evils. I voted for the president based on that principle because he appeared to be more sensible in terms of the Nation’s needs. I now see how wise a decision that was given that Republican kamikazes, against all reason and intelligence or national concern, are hell-bent to cripple and possibly destroy the world economy as well as our own. Unbelievable!! What is more, they are trying to blame this mess on President Obama! That’s like having a guy walk up to you, pee on your pants and say its your fault that your pants are pissy because you shouldn’t have been standing where he wanted to pee. I wonder what our economy would look like if these fools hadn’t blocked every effort of the president to pass a jobs bill and other useful legislation. Let’s work to find out the answer to that question in 2014 by giving him a Democratic house. The blessing to me in coming to this site is the absence of extreme insanity screamed by the “Dull Normals”.

  • mrssandy

    I demand an emergency vote for the replacement of congress for the inability or refusal to act on behalf of the American people! There is nothing more needed as this process. If it is illegal I don’t know but if the people pull together we can do it. Weccan not wait anothernday or month for this mess to be resolved

  • nana4gj

    They need to worry about re-election and victorious elections IF those elections are legal, anyway. If they are not successful in preventing legitimate voters from voting; or in gerrymandering Districts to their liking; et al. They have a record, you know, of doing just that.

    So that means we all must be more vigilant in insuring that elections in every nook and cranny of this country are legitimate and legal.

  • Jerryb

    The Ripofflican OVERREACH has gone too far – again. They refuse to govern. Instead, they waste time and taxpayer dollars with their inane repeals of Obamacare, disdain minorities and women, and continue to ignore jobs creation. It’s past time to sweep the TEA out of Congress…and KEEP THEM OUT until they gain some measure of sanity. And if they continue to reject sane measures of governing, we need to keep them out for a long time.

  • Louis Jackson

    The GOP led by the Koch Bros want to get rid of or privatize everything.. They want to privatize Soc. Sec.. They want to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid as we know it.. They want to abolish the V.A., the EPA, the dept of energy and the dept of education.. They want less regulations on Wall St. and the financial institutions.. They want everything that will collapse the economy and country.. Why weren’t all of them behaving like this when Clinton or Bush was in office? HUMMM!!

  • nana4gj

    Times change. Today there is ample evidence that we need to have some Amendment to that part of the Constitution that is so protective of those who “serve” in Congress. They’re a different breed from what the forefathers who wrote that in knew as Congressional servants. We can’t suspend their pay; we cannot recall them; we cannot fire them; we cannot take any legal action at all, such as evict them from their self styled housing accomodations, using their Congressional offices in which to live instead of renting something on the market.

    We cannot impose any consequences for malpractice,,,,which is abusing the legislative process or aborting it altogether in favor of extortion, blackmail, ransom and hostage taking. We cannot suspend and hold their salaries for non-performance when they do absolutely nothing but go before the cameras and mics with one lame excuse after another for why they do nothing. We cannot adjust their salaries to “retainer fees” or “fee for service” or “per diem”, so that we are not paying salaries to spend 50% or more of their work time at home campaigning for re-election, neglecting the actual work they are supposed to be doing.

    I truly believe it is time for some major reforms that address the conduct of Congress. It will never come from Congress; it has to come from the People. This notion of “sheltered employment” or “guaranteed compensation regardless of performance” has got to stop.

    Maybe we need to start with a class action suit via the ACLU.

  • rholst26

    Let me start with this I am a 62 year Old disabled vet That Though He would never have any cause to say that I would know any one that may have committed treason . until you look at what these Tea party tea bagging nuts are doing right now by shutting down are government while we are at war !! if I read the deffantion right of what treason is Then These tea partiers are committing it don’t believe me then read the entire definition below !


    The betrayal of one’s own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.

    The Treason Clause traces its roots back to an English statute enacted during the reign of Edward III (1327–1377). This statute prohibited levying war against the king, adhering to his enemies, or contemplating his death. Although this law defined treason to include disloyal and subversive thoughts, it effectively circumscribed the crime as it existed under the Common Law. During the thirteenth century, the crime of treason encompassed virtually every act contrary to the king’s will and became a political tool of the Crown. Building on the tradition begun by Edward III, the Founding Fathers carefully delineated the crime of treason in Article III of the U.S. Constitution, narrowly defining its elements and setting forth stringent evidentiary requirements.

    Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.

    The Treason Clause applies only to disloyal acts committed during times of war. Acts of dis-loyalty during peacetime are not considered treasonous under the Constitution. Nor do acts of Espionage committed on behalf of an ally constitute treason. For example, julius and ethel rosenberg were convicted of espionage, in 1951, for helping the Soviet Union steal atomic secrets from the United States during World War II. The Rosenbergs were not tried for treason because the United States and the Soviet Union were allies during World War II.

    Under Article III a person can levy war against the United States without the use of arms, weapons, or military equipment. Persons who play only a peripheral role in a conspiracy to levy war are still considered traitors under the Constitution if an armed rebellion against the United States results. After the U.S. Civil War, for example, all Confederate soldiers were vulnerable to charges of treason, regardless of their role in the secession or insurrection of the Southern states. No treason charges were filed against these soldiers, however, because President Andrew Johnson issued a universal Amnesty.

    The crime of treason requires a traitorous intent. If a person unwittingly or unintentionally gives aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States during wartime, treason has not occurred. Similarly, a person who pursues a course of action that is intended to benefit the United States but mistakenly helps an enemy is not guilty of treason. Inadvertent disloyalty is never punishable as treason, no matter how much damage the United States suffers.

    As in any other criminal trial in the United States, a defendant charged with treason is presumed innocent until proved guilty Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. Treason may be proved by a voluntary confession in open court or by evidence that the defendant committed an Overt Act of treason. Each overt act must be witnessed by at least two people, or a conviction for treason will not stand. By requiring this type of direct evidence, the Constitution minimizes the danger of convicting an innocent person and forestalls the possibility of partisan witch-hunts waged by a single adversary.

    Unexpressed seditious thoughts do not constitute treason, even if those thoughts contemplate a bloody revolution or coup. Nor does the public expression of subversive opinions, including vehement criticism of the government and its policies, constitute treason. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right of all Americans to advocate the violent overthrow of their government unless such advocacy is directed toward inciting imminent lawless action and is likely to produce it (Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 89 S. Ct. 1827, 23 L. Ed. 2d 430 [1969]). On the other hand, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the distribution of leaflets protesting the draft during World War I was not constitutionally protected speech (schenck v. united states, 249 U.S. 47, 39 S. Ct. 247, 63 L. Ed. 470 [1919]).

    Because treason involves the betrayal of allegiance to the United States, a person need not be a U.S. citizen to commit treason under the Constitution. Persons who owe temporary allegiance to the United States can commit treason. Aliens who are domiciliaries of the United States, for example, can commit traitorous acts during the period of their domicile. A subversive act does not need to occur on U.S. soil to be punishable as treason. For example, Mildred Gillars, a U.S. citizen who became known as Axis Sally, was convicted of treason for broadcasting demoralizing propaganda to Allied forces in Europe from a Nazi radio station in Germany during World War II.

    Treason is punishable by death. If a death sentence is not imposed, defendants face a minimum penalty of five years in prison and a $10,000 fine (18 U.S.C.A. § 2381). A person who is convicted of treason may not hold federal office at any time thereafter.

    The English common law required defendants to forfeit all of their property, real and personal, upon conviction for treason. In some cases, the British Crown confiscated the property of immediate family members as well. The common law also precluded convicted traitors from bequeathing their property through a will. Relatives were presumed to be tainted by the blood of the traitor and were not permitted to inherit from him. Article III of the U.S. Constitution outlaws such “corruption of the blood” and limits the penalty of Forfeiture to “the life of the person attainted.” Under this provision relatives cannot be made to forfeit their property or inheritance for crimes committed by traitorous family members.

    Further readings

    Carlton, Eric. 1998. Treason: Meanings and Motives. Brookfield, Vt.: Ashgate.

    Holzer, Henry Mark. 2002. “Why Not Call It Treason? From Korea to Afghanistan.” Southern University Law Review 29 (spring).

    Kmiec, Douglas W. 2002. “Try Lindh for Treason.” National Review (January 21).

    Spectar, J.M. 2003. “To Ban or Not to Ban an American Taliban? Revocation of Citizenship and Statelessness in a Statecentric System.” California Western Law Review 39 (spring).

    West’s Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.

  • pattijor

    I can’t wait to vote in the next election After what the Republicans have done to this country is unforgivable and to our state also. They have no regard for who we are or what our forefathers died for and why each person’s vote should count. Right now the only votes allowed are ones they are sure will destroy the United States of America. SHAME ON YOU AND I WILL VOTE YOU OUT!!!

    • RNPRN

      We all need to get out and support local dems. The republicans have a lot of money. We can grass root these people out of office and VOTE.

  • Soo Brooks

    I don’t know who this Republican Party is anymore. Certainly it is not the one I supported before Reagan burst on the scene.

  • JerseyBorn54

    I like how Frank is straight up and honest,and like Frank i also receive Social Security,plus Veterans disability and also like Frank,I cannot wait to get to the voting polls in 2014.My case before the BVA,to raise my disability rating again is held up which should had taken place on October 3rd.And Ii have been fighting with them since 2008 and now this crape,I hate the Republicans and especially those Tea Party scums and I being nice with my words because of really what I would like to say.John Boehner,is a damn wimp at least Nancy Pelosi,has more coconuts than this wimp.I would give up a disability check to meet Ted Cruz,in and alley and I promise you I would be the one walking out of that alley.Have you notice that panty wearing with his dress on has disappeared since he started all of this.Lets go to this Texas born in Canada scum with healthcare in both countries.I served in the Army & Navy during the Vietnam Era now my benefits are held you for that hearing thanks to that scum Cruz,bot how I would love to get my hands on him and Boehner and this is the truth that I am saying.Remember what goes around comes around,it always does that is a fact.

  • middleclasstaxpayer

    When Americans see HOW MUCH their healthcare costs rise in 2014 because of Obamacare, it is democrat liberals who will be in trouble…in the end, the fact that the ACA is beginning will be the worst thing that ever happened to liberals. Liberal policies consistently have LOWERED the standard of living for ALL Americans except the very wealthy. It is always the poor & middle class who suffer the most from liberal “help.” Millions have given up hope of finding work, and there are now more part-time workers in the U S than at any time in our history, all because business & industry cannot afford the mandated Obamacare costs & restrictions. We are going from bad to worse, with no relief in sight, and all Obama can do is attempt to scare us with dire, but unfounded predictions.

    • nirodha

      I suppose that you would classify Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as liberal policies that have “consistently LOWERED the standard of living for ALL Americans…”, and that it is the “poor and middle class who suffer the most from liberal “help'”. The ACA probably WILL have the same effect on the poor and middle class as the aforementioned social programs. Ya think? If you do, I’d sure like some of what you’ve been smoking!

      • middleclasstaxpayer

        If you tried to sign up for Obamacare, you’d find that anyone earning less than $16,000 per year does NOT qualify for it. Instead they must go on Medicaid….we live in a very large city, and when my son tried to find a Medicaid physician last year, we ended up travelling over 20 miles, as most doctors refuse new Medicaid patients because of the very low reimbursements. In 2014 I guarantee there will be even LESS physicians willing to accept new Medicaid patients, making it WORSE for the poor, NOT better! Liberal policies are crashing our healthcare system & our economy!

        • nirodha

          I’m sorry to hear about your son’s difficulty in finding a physician who accepts Medicaid. I take it that your son is over 26. Since you live in a large city, there should be a reasonable number of doctors (I, too, live in a large city, and we have lots of doctors here) who do accept Medicaid.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            Doctors that treat (current) Medicaid patients apparently still do, but the vast majority will NOT accept NEW Medicaid patients because of very low reimbursements (which I think are headed EVEN lower), thus the problem. We were very concerned to learn that the ACA does NOT apply to those earning under $16,000 per year (the truly “poor”), and it appears that the Medicaid system may be overrun with vast deficits when the millions start applying for that benefit. Probably not much different than when the poor used the hospital emergency rooms. Just different venues serving the same folks, with the same potentially disastrous fiscal results. Same problems, different days.

  • Steven Jones

    It is too bad that the voter instigated Referendum and Recall law that we have here in California is not on the National level

  • rc137

    My ballot is really easy as far as deciding between Democrat or Republican. The Democrat of course. Republicans do not serve my interests or the interests of those not in the rich elite. I’ve been paying into SS and Medicare all of my life and expect those benefits to be there when I need them. If GOP had their way, we’d regress back to the days before unions, SS, Medicare/Medicaid. Those days were fairly bleak if you were old, sick or in the work/poor class. What has the Republican party done in the past decade to make my life better?…NOTHING.

  • Diana Baskin

    There has to be another reason why they don’t want the ACA. They keep saying “What the American people want.” The American people want the government open. Why not honor that? It breaks my heart to see what they are doing to Veterans and the very poor. That woman who lost her son last week in the war and couldn’t even get the benefits just made me want to cry with her. What did those bone-heads think shutting the government down really meant?

  • Defend The Constitution

    Since it is impossible to know who among us knows best, we trust the competitive efforts of many to help us see better ways of doing things.

  • PdxTony

    I dont get it. the top 1% gather more money but want to play a smaller share?
    i want more of everything but share less.
    I hope that people see the GOP for what they really are.

  • Debby

    What ever happened to “serving the people” ?

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    All the GOP Bull tyrants know is to take away from Americans what we already paid every pay period for SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Does it EVER occur to these jerks that our tax dollars are not the sole domain of their rich, obscenely greedy campaign donors of Corporate welfare?

    The GOP Bulls all whine about the US debt but like two-faced wussy bois go right ahead year after year without a wrinkle or reservation and hand Big Oil $tens of billions in tax subsidies. A total of $50 this year alone was handed to the biggest US businesses. What the hell kind of budgeting is that? Taxes earmarked ONLY for Big Business and all of our payroll deductions earn us zip in ROI? Oh but we are NEVER supposed to expect a dime of what WE paid for…but just let a rich boi or corporate thief whine about a reduction in wealth or profit and all the little Johnny Jump Ups of the Koch clonage run to rescue them without so much as a thank you to taxpayers.

    In other words, wake up America….Your tax dollars DO NOT belong to corporations. If you allow the GOP to continue their ridiculous Feed the Rich ideology, your paychecks and all your hard work will be an existence based solely upon your duty to hand over your earnings to filthy profitable corporations. Let’s “conserve” our tax dollars for what’s needed…not for what isn’t. How’s that for liberal conservatism in action?

  • middleclasstaxpayer

    Here’s an interesting reaction from a “low information” voter to the soaring healthcare costs brought about by the “affordable” care act: Cindy Vinson, a woman who was interviewed by the San Jose Mercury News recently, gave the greatest quote of all. She said, “Of course, I want people to have health care, I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.” Why are we surprised??? Socialism only works until we run out of “other people’s money.”

    • nirodha

      What “socialism” are you referring to? Do you consider the ACA to be socialized medicine? Not even close! The ACA is not even single-payer, which is still not socialized medicine. I wish that people would understand the definition of the terms that they throw around so carelessly. If you want to see socialized medicine, go to Sweden, where people are healthier and live longer than Americans.

  • John Libby

    I read so many posts that people are sick of how our government forces CRAP down our throats and we need change. I was raised by old-fashioned values and I am not afraid to work for what I need. I am SO SICK of the way the system works and the people “WE” put in charge of these systems get “lazy” and caught up in their own personal gains that they loose sight in what they are there for. I am a firm believer that S.S. needs to stay, I am a firm believer that WELFAIR needs to stay. BUT, for those who NEED IT, not those who repeatedly abuse drugs, not those who have children to keep from mowing lawns or cleaning dishes, or todays kids who feel they are to good to do the jobs we started out with in school.
    Our government is broken there is no doubt! Our country is in a hell of a mess! We have voted in to office so many politicians that forgot once in office how to come to the people with our demands but rather give to the lobbyist there brown envelopes and yes I believe the need for rich, middle class, and poor to be a society overall, but why keep watching the seportation of rich – poor? Why in one country does a bottle of coke only cost $.33 when here its average is around $1.79??? “GREED” This is our government today!!!!!!

  • Lee Lanza

    I tend to think that we may be seeing the end of a cycle that started in the 1960s with civil rights legislation, enactment of Medicare, and the presidency of Richard Nixon. Since then the Republican Party has not been actually conservative, but reactionary. They represent people who fear change (which is often unavoidable) and resent their fellow citizens, and fear diversity. Nixon appealed to them as the silent majoriity (although it is not clear they ever were a majority). He perfected the politics of resentment, anger, and fear, and the party has followed his example since then. Reagan may have had a smiley face, but he stoked resentment of “them” – recipients of welfare, Medicaid, any federal benefit. George W Bush thought people who disagreed with him were traitors. When he was President the Republicans lost any claim to being fiscal conservatives, as they supported his reckless combination of tax cutting and vast spending on two unnecessary wars that have caused massive damage here and abroad without achieving any military goal. Since Obama’s election the Republicans have been in a state of continuing hysteria. They are not serious about anything except keeping rich people happy and persuading ordinary voters they can bring back a lost golden age when white middle class Americans could feel like they ruled the world. Economically, history is evolving in a different direction, making the Republican Party largely irrelevant.

  • Beaulieu6

    The one to blame and held accountable for the government shutdown are the Tea Party Repulicans they would not compromise or negotiate with President Obama it’s their way or the highways, to negotiate it’s a give and takes proposition as they should take the President offer to open up the government, raise the debt ceiling, and grow our economy.
    The Affordable Care Act was passed by House Democrats in 2009 and signed into law by President Obama on March 23, 2010 therefore it is the law of the land and it is here to stay, on October 1, 2013 millions have enrolled with the Health Insurance Marketplace in which coverage will begin on January 1, 2014, when the law will be fully implemented.
    The Tea Party Republicans must be remove from office immediately and those Republicans that are up for re-election in 2014 must be replace by Democrats and Speaker Boehner must be replace by Nancy Pelosi D-California.
    The Republicans are helding our economy hostage in which it is hurting the middle-class 98% percent, Seniors, and the poor living below poverty line, in which they should walk a mile or two in their shoes.
    I’m optimistic, confident, and hopeful that the Republicans will use their common-sense and open up the government, raise the debt ceiling, and grow our economy it’s common-sense!

  • Beaulieu6

    The Republicans must realized that defaulting on their debt would be catastrophic to our economy and the Global economy as well, it would hurt Seniors like myself who received their Social Security benefit as if the House Republicans don’t reach an agreement to avoid default by October 17, 2013, Seniors like myself would not received their paycheck, it would hurt the National Security, hurt the Military, and it could drove America to another recession.
    I’m optimistic, confident, and hopeful in which a default can be avoided as House Republicans understand and know the consequences that this Shutdown and a default would be.
    On a newest poll 60% percent said they want the Republicans removed from office imediately with not question ask, their report card doesen’t look good as I give them an F for failure and on a score 1 to 10 I give them a 2. Another poll in which 70% percent blame the Republicans for the government shutdown.
    Either the Republicans open up the government, raise the debt ceiling for one year and grow our economy or we will freeze their salary over 10 years, enough is enough it’s time for the Republicans to put politics to the back burner and to do their work in which their were elected for.
    The Republicans doesen’t have an agenda as the only thing they know is to “obstruct” “obstruct” in which their “gridlock” must end once and for all.

  • Benjamin Dover

    Although democracy may be confused with liberty, the majority opinion of a democracy may be opposed to liberty, as 1930s Germany proved.

  • Darlene Rosa

    Americans have notoriously short memories. By 2014 we shall have been betrayed by several other Washington entities. By then we’ll have been lulled by the Super Bowl, March Madness, Professional Hockey and another World Series. Republicans will vote for the Republicans and Democrats will vote for Democrats (the ones with the most corporate sponsors). and nothing will change. Plus, we will still have our assault rifles and mega rounds of ammo. What could possibly go wrong?.

  • Beaulieu6

    Now, that the Republicans have re-open the government and raise the debt ceiling in paying their bill I hope that they have learned a valuable lesson not to let it happen again.
    Seniors like myself has worked a lifetime to put in into Social Security in which I strongly believe that we must expand Social Security benefit to current Seniors, and future generation we must expand it for the next 75 years.
    Both Congress and Senate Democrats and Republicans must work together to pass a bipartisan budget that would create private sector jobs to grow our economy in which will put America on the path to reach a lasting prosperity as early 2015.
    I remain optimistic, confident, and hopeful that both party can work out their differences and put the country before party.

  • ziggyman911

    don’t be stupid frank not one democrat has told the truth yours ssi check is no more important than your children don’t let the media make up your mind lets find the truth we need each other in this crises if go bank rupp u think u will get your check no more lawyers to congress we all are bleeding to death and what is more important that truth money what’s more important than children,money what has any of these lying dogs done for anyone of us just broke or backs if the cnn news tell u there bad vote for them CNN Obama uncle tom