Comments on: Obama Administration Stands By Contraception Mandate

By: dslocum

dslocum — Fri, 08 Feb 2013 23:51:00 +0000

It takes two to be irresponsible in creating a pregnancy. When men are willing for women to legislate what males can do with their reproductive organs, then it might be appropriate for men to comment on women’s rights. Until then, stay out of women’s health issues!

Only a handful of idiots called Vietnam vets baby killers. It was despicable. You should have been thanked for serving in your country’s military – regardless of the lack of popularity of the war.

By: bchrista

bchrista — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 03:56:00 +0000

In an earlier post I stated about the government once haven’t taken your tax money they can do what ever they want with it, so lets face facts for the last 30 years they have been taken your tax dollars and started wars, which I’m sure you didn’t approve of, they have been supporting the state of Israel to the tune of over 10,000,ooo,ooo Billion a year and receiving nothing in return and most of the time not even a thank you and all the billions of dollars in aid given to other countries that never been repaid and the best part of all this that the 1% has had a hand in all these dealings, how do you think they made their billions, the last ones to profit from the benevolence was the trio of Bush, Cheney and Haliburton and by the way Haliburton is still receiving compensation from their dealings with the US Government, how about you driving up to the gas pump and paying $100 dollars a gallon for gasline under Bush and Cheney that’s just what the US Military paid, Oh plus on top of that there was a matter of several Billions of dollars that got lost in transit and never recovered and you guys are raising a ruckus over a few millions that are being spent to help American women keep from getting pregnant, I’m ashame of you people, if the money is spent on Americans you raise the roof if it’s given to strangers around the world you don’t open your mouths, if your elected officials go South with it’s Okay but to help some women or some poor soul that may need a hand out that’s a no-no why don’t you guys get a life women aren’t the enemy nor the Elderly nor the poor that have fallen on hard times, the enemy is the Representatives that you elected to run the country and they in turn screwed you and made off with billions of dollars splitting it with their Rich friends and banking it overseas and the worst fucking part is that they have convinced some of you that they were looking out for your best interests and you bought the whole cow lock, stock, and barrel, and they got you right where they want you hooked by the nose following them and doin their bidding and making you like, plus having you begging them to go ahead and take some more of your money, if that isn’t the height of stupidity I don’t know what is and Bobby Jindel called the Republicans stupid, I don’t know I think he kind of got that wrong the stupid ones are the ones that still believe the stuff the Republicans are selling them and they didn”t even get a receipt. People I keep telling you you keep getting the wrong information and the only person your hurting is yourself, and mean while the Rich get Richer and you’re fighting amoung yourselves, like the saying goes the mice will play while the Cat is away, I guess you won’t learn until the Chinese come and take over completely and people don’t ever think that it can’t happen because your fooling yourself we are being sold out everyday by money hungry, greedy bastards. since they have money it won’t effect them but where do you go, think about it.

By: bchrista

bchrista — Wed, 06 Feb 2013 02:43:00 +0000

I kept telling myself to stay out of the set of comments but I finally couldn’t stand it any longer and just had to say my piece, to start with I can’t believe that all of the people that post here which I call my friends because we are on the same paige ,however, allow idiots like Joe Ham1 to keep pulling your leg, we have all been posting here long enough that a pattern has developed if he thinks that he can get under your skin he won’t back off, by that I mean the subjects that we have discussed here I feel them to based on facts,however, people like Joe apparently are sitting at home with nothing better to do and they manage to stumble upon an open discussion forum like this one and they feel that they have found hog heaven, since we will never meet and our gender is usually keep to ourselves, we can say what ever we want so people like Joe can pick a subject like President Obama and run it into the ground, I am pretty sure he knows that Obama has improved America , yet in order to get someone riled he speaks in a derogatory manner so he can play him game and like Joe there are several others and then again there are some that only listen to Fox News and people like Glen Beck, Rush Limbough, Carl Rove and they never get out of that rut, hey they can be very convincing and if that’s all you listen to and watch what do you expect. Now another point is women are going to have an abortion if they get pregnant and don’t the baby and you’re not going to stop it so I would suggect that let them do it under safe conditions rather than force them back to the old way where there was some cruel ways fostered upon to have it done, the medications, the clothes hangers, and various other ways. Right now all you hear is about children being abandomed or starving because the parents don’t have the money to feed them properly, for those of you that are bent on telling women that they must give birth to these unwanted children because your beliefs then I suggest that you build a place where all these unwanted children could be taken and raised by you and given a proper home or maybe you could have a place where your address would be posted and as soon as the women gave birth you could be notified and one of you could pick up the baby and raise them as your own I think that would be the beat way and them would be no reason to abort them, because people grow the fuck up sex is as old as the beginning of time and you are not going to stop it and what two people do when they get together is their business and unless you are prepared to adopt the baby keep your nose out of it. And as far as the people that are complaining about paying for others contraceptives get a life because you’re not paying for anything other tthan yourself, once the government collects your taxes it’s no longer yours it’s theirs and what they do with it you have no control it’s no longer yours, if you did you could tell the government that you did appreiate them supplying all theycountries in the world (which is how the Rich got so rich)and the government will tell you to go get fucked and you will do nothing about it, it’s not yours any longer.

By: Robert Cruder

Robert Cruder — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:08:00 +0000

Richard Nixon traded endorsement by the Roman Catholic Church (illegal for tax-exempt organizations) for enforcement of the Church’s ban of abortion (a violation of the Establishment Clause). The “dirty tricks”, Watergate break-in and “Plumbers” in that same campaign preclude an honorable interpretation.

The Church founded “faith-based organizations” to hide its involvement and avoid automatic rejection by Protestants. Created, managed and populated on Church payroll, the organizations pretended to be independent.

That was the thin end of the Republican “wedge strategy” to split religious southerners from the Democratic Party. Southern Baptists, Missouri-Synod Lutherans, Seventh-Day Adventists and LDS would have gone more Democratic if they knew Rome was in control.

Once Nixon merged the Party with the anti-abortion movement, those Astroturf organizations recruited conservative Republicans based on party loyalty. Most recruits were not anti-abortion but eventually that position became mandatory.

Soon, recruits assumed figurehead management. Along with splinter groups, that became today’s “faith-based” movement.

It is unclear how anti-abortion organizations simultaneously assumed the incompatible anti-contraceptive position in lock-step fashion. The only viable explanation is that the Roman Catholic Church opposes both, still gives the orders and perhaps still has the national leaders on payroll.

By: bchrista

bchrista — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 19:48:00 +0000

Hey Joe Ham1 I see that you’re still spouting your bullshit lies, to start with the talking points here were Abortion, Contraception, the right of women to decide if they have the right to control what they do with their body, and if it’s legal for them to have unprotected sex or if they need to ask for permission, and you had to throw shit in the game by talking about your favorite subject demeaning the President and his policies, which everything you state has already been shown to be nothing but bullshit and lies, I won’t bother to elaborate since it’s old hash warmed over, why don’t you get a life and find something new that hasn’t been repeated dozens of times before, it’s been proven that you are so full of it that it’s getting boring, people are getting tired of you guys berating the President with your unfounded lies, again I say get over it you guys lost the election and all people want to hear is progressive comments on how to move the country forward Reagan, Bush, Nixon and any Republican President you want to name just fucked up the country grabbed their marbles, ran and hid out of sight and those that are still alive you don’t hear a peep out of them. Obama’s jobs proposal all of which there’s been several, are still being held by the Congress who refuse to vote on them, and the deficit was left by the Bush Admenistration for two unfunded wars that Bush didn’t put on the books, destroyed an economy that was left to him by President Clinton 3T to the good, left an economy that was losing 800.000 jobs a month, gave the richest 1% the lowest tax break that finally threw the country on the way to one of the greatest depression in History, and Obama stopped the down ward spiral of jobs loss,and started them on the way up at a rate of 200,000 a month, stopped GM, and Chrysler from bankruptsie proceedings and in the process saved over 500,000 jobs, stopped Romney and his buddies from sending jobs overseas by not letting Delphi Auto go under, got the stock market from going under and today it’s hovering around 13,000, promised to do 500 things for the people of this country and kept over 300 of them and those he hasn’t kept is because the Republicans have been sucessful in blocking but, he is still working on them, he has accomplished more than all presidents before him together, while the great communicator(Reagan), Bush 1and2, and Nixon didn’t do anything for the American people except to make the Republicans and their 1% friends richer, I can’t completely put Reagan down he passed a couple of bills that helped the people ,but believe you me he did that without realizing it and it didn’t sit too well with the Republicans in the Senate and the Congress. But as you read these posts I urge you to take them with a little bit of salt because people like Joe Ham1, Onedonewong, Lana Ward, MontanaBill, Stvjkas, Finder Bass, and many others paid by the 1%, the Kock Brothers, Rove, Rush, Hannity, and other Republicans are being paid to and their only motive is to make the President look bad and fail and it’s eating at their ass that so far they have failed to accomplished their dirty deeds because if they ever do, then all I can say is Lord have mercy on this country.

By: joeham1

joeham1 — Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:56:00 +0000

The point Anna, Is the government screws up virtually everything they touch. The last thing we need is for them to tell anyone to pay for someones elses birth Control. This administration and the last need and needed to pay attention to what they spend not what they want us to spend!!!

By: joeham1

joeham1 — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:58:00 +0000

Why is it when given facts, (I gave you the sources for those facts) You have no answer except name calling? Was the balanced approach, Balanced? Can we afford 800 billion a year in interest?

Your love affair with the president shouldn’t make you deaf, dumb and blind!

You wierdo’s have this freaky little hate thing going on. No matter what happens you blame someone else.

Let me help you:

Bush, did the prescription drug bill and didn’t pay for it. Added to the deficit! The wars that BOTH parties voted for weren’t funded!

He continued the Clinton bill called “The American Homeownership and Economic Opportunity Act” that legislation lead to the housing crash! Clinton, Bush, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd should have seen what was coming.

TO BE FAIR!!!! (If you can) Both parties caused the reccession and both parties need to work together to solve the problems!

The Problem I have with president is he is NOT willing to compromise on anything! The healthcare law was a patison bill which predictably won’t lower costs! It had no cost lowering measures! NONE!!! The Balanced Approach to cutting the deficit increased the deficit 4 trillion because the repubs gave him a tax increase and he refused to give any spending cuts! (CBO report jan 4 2013)

I only ask you to read the reports and then decide. Don’t buy the crap for the left or the right says!

By: joeham1

joeham1 — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:28:00 +0000

I’m not sure if your a 12 year old or just retarded!!!!! I said clearly that both parties are responsible! Remember the Graham-Leach-Bliley law was signed into law by Cinton. That means the republicans came of with the bill and clinton signed it! If he didn’t agree it, he would of veto’d it.

My point again if your not to much of a partison is both parties are equally responsible! Bush and Clinton blew it!!!

I know the liars out there will tell you a lot of bull. So here is another fact for you: The balanced budget and welfare reform were done by Newt Gingerich and signed inot law by Clinton. That’s why we has a surplus!

Oh, and the 2 useless wars voted for and agreed to by BOTH parties got rid of Sadam Hussien and 1000′s of Al queda!

By: concernedgran

concernedgran — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 19:41:00 +0000

I’m not trying to be controversial, but just have another perspective on this subject. Many of the comments on here are talking about “free birth control” or “me paying for your birth control”. In every job that I have ever had, the employee has to pay for a portion of their health insurance. I don’t understand how it could be legal for an employer to charge for a potion of the employees healthcare premium and then deny them any coverage at all. Most employers are not going to pay full premiums, so I think if they charge for coverage they should have to provide the coverage they are charging for. I am retired and well past the age for having children, but I am a fair minded person who does not think that name calling and put downs of others who do not agree with you accomplishes anything besides making the name caller look bad.

By: ANNA

ANNA — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 16:38:00 +0000

That’s so funny, joeham1! Trying to insult me by calling me a slut? FYI I’m a married, post-menopausal woman who, even if I was slutty, certainly has no need for birth control! Nice try, though.