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“Above all, we must realize that no arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today’s world do not have. It is a weapon that we as Americans do have. Let that be understood by those who practice terrorism and prey upon their neighbors.” – Ronald Reagan
Glad to see you’re back. I wanted to ask youy opinion of the tape of Mittens’ address to his rich supporters. I saw it the other night and really enjoyed it.
Do know what I really enjoy? It’s the postings by some of the people in this website who accuse the recorder of being a sneaky traitor. It’s both video and sound. To do it, the individual had to hold the phone high enough to get a picture as clear and unobstructed as he or she did. Mittens thought that this was an achievement moment for him, i.e. wow, what a man. He comes out and says what he thinks. His elitist mindset probably never considered that what he thinks insults the majority of American voters. Granted that some of those voters, especially the old whites, wouldn’t vote for Obama if he came from heaven with accompanying angels.
CPA… I actually responded to this question yesterday. By the way, the phone was left on a table, partially hidden behind what looks like a vase. Here’s my response reposted:
have you wondered, objectively, why the the video from Mother Communist Jones was sliced and diced with sections missing? Maybe because they wanted to deliver a message that was out of context so they could try to make Romney look bad? Hmmmm???? Noooooo… they would never do that, would they????? Of course they would. Just like NBC and the others doctored and cut the tapes in the Trayvon Martin incident to advance a false narrative that fit their agenda. And you leftist freaks lick that crap up like a dog eats his own vomit. Truth is, the tapes were cut. What you don’t see and hear is Romney being asked a question about his election strategy and who he intends to go after for their vote, NOT that he doesn’t care about the people from a governing perspective. You all know this, but you like to perpetuate lies because to all of you leftist freaks, the ends justifies the means.
For the record, Romney pays m0stly capital gains taxes. He doesn’t have a salaried job. He pays the same rate that you do if you have capital gains. No different. Besides, what the hell do you leftist freaks care about another man’s earnings? What friggin business is it of yours? Why are you so concerned with what Mitt does with his own money while you are NOT concerned what Obozo does with yours? Why are you not concerned that Obozo is spending us into financial oblivion? What the hell is wrong with you? Are you so overcome with jealousy and envy that you cannot see what is really important, but instead get mired in this meaningless bullsheet?
Why are you not talking about the fact that Obozo and the Federal Reserve are just printing their way into US fiscal oblivion, destroying our currency and our economy? What’s more important to our country? Mitt’s tax rate, or bankrupting our nation?
And don’t give me your crap about Mitt’s wealth. Your a hypocrite if you’re not concerned with the wealth of the leftist freaks like Obozo, Kerry, Clinton, Soros, Kennedy, Rockefeller, etc. etc. etc.
“You cannot make the poor man rich by making the rich man poor.” – Winston Churchill
OMG….it isn’t what you say sometimes, that is despicable, as what you DON’T say. I.E. “Romney pays m0stly capital gains taxes. He doesn’t have a salaried job. He pays the same rate that you do if you have capital gains.” NOTICE the word “IF” in there. Romney and Ryan both make way more money on investments than any salary they would get by the govt. And don’t forget the tax rates go from 10% for short term capital gains versus 0% for long term capital gains. Most middle class are scraping by and not able to invest heavily, thereby capital gains is not an issue. Whereas, Romney went to college married supported a wife and she went to college HARVARD by selling stocks his daddy gave him. Don’t believe me, check out interviews of Ann Romney when Willard was running against Kennedy. You never answered if you were one of the Greedy Scrooges that wants to hang onto Every PENNY, while the middle class struggles to pay their taxes with out the same breaks. The top 2% NEED to pay their fare share of taxes or GET THE F**K OUT OF MY COUNTRY !!!!! THEIR GREEDY NASTY SELFISH A$$es aren’t wanted anymore. OUR VOTES CANNOT BE FALSELY PERSUADED OR BOUGHT!!!!!!
Gene… do you feel better now? What kind of lunatic rant is that? Sheesh… you’re usually more measured than that, Gene. Get a grip, buddy. Take a deep breath. Count from 10 backwards… breath deeply and slowly….. ahhhhhhhh….. There. That should work for you.
Now, I know you are a committed leftist Gene, but the Long Term Cap Gains tax rate is 15%. Short term cap gains are taxed as regular income. Look it up. And it doesn’t take a rich guy to own a few stocks and bonds. Most Americans do. You probably do as well.
What exactly is “fair share”, Gene? The top 10% of taxpayers pay 80% of all income taxes while 47% of the people pay ZERO income taxes. What’s fair about that? Why should the whole tax burden be carried by so few people? How the hell do you call people that want to keep more of their OWN earnings greedy, yet gloss over the fact that YOU want your hands in their pockets for more of their money and you’re not greedy? Dude, you are f**ked up!
Have a nice day, Gene!
“You can only confiscate the wealth that exists at a given moment. You cannot confiscate future wealth — and that future wealth is less likely to be produced when people see that it is going to be confiscated.” – Thomas Sowell
Caught me on a bad day….besides I see you and CPANY have been beating each other up pretty well.
You can correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding of Cap gains is tied to your normal tax rate of payroll taxrate. If you are as rich as Romney and don’t take payroll. You live straight off of investments and that tax rate for long term cap gains is 0% for tax year 2012, and short term is 15%, but you are trying to way simply something that Romney’s tax guys used 300+ pages to file.
Now the challenge comes…are you a troll for the GOP trying to confuse the FACTS w/ FOX? Or are you just that wrong that you actually want to defend GREED as some kind of virtue? CPANY seems to think you are the latter. Either way, while you still breathe you have a chance at repentance about greed and loathing of the poor, and the middle class. Also either way, this election is almost over and Romney is going to lose so give up defending the guy. Even Ryan is calling him “The Stench”.
Remember, you can’t serve 2 Gods. Don’t make money your God. GOD, Himself will deal with all of it in the end, there are no trailers hooks on hearses.
Gene… I don’t serve money as my God. And nice try, but using God as an excuse to justify your support for politicians taking more of my earnings is probably not going to ingratiate you to Him, Gene. Money, unbeknownst to you leftist nutjobs, is nothing more than a uniform representation of the value of one’s time. We each, well Republicans that is, trade our time (that’s called work, Gene) in exchange for money that can be traded for whatever we desire. Your accusations, along with that moron CPANY, that someone who wants to keep the fruits of his own labor is somehow greedy is just flat out false and foolish. I think that anyone who believes they have a claim on the labor of another man, who believes they have a right to that man’s earnings, IS the greedy one. You and the other leftist freaks around here that demand more of another man’s earnings are the greedy ones, Gene. Not the man that desires to keep what he earns with his own labor.
Romney is winning this race, Gene. Don’t believe polls that oversample DemonRATS by 10% or more intentionally for the purpose of shaping public opinion, not reporting on it. That’s what you are getting from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSLSD, NYT, Wash ComPost, etc. etc. You are being lied to as usual. Even turnout polls show Romney well in the lead.
“Rule of thumb… never trust what comes from the mouth of a socialist politician. They are only lying to you so they can spend other people’s money to build up their own power base and bureaucracy.” – ObozoMustGo
OMG….that is such B.S. Come On….what you are saying that Willard Romney’s time is worth $4,452.06 per hour, based on $13,000,000.00 annual income. I don’t know you, but I doubt your time is worth that. I work I pay over 20% taxes…We all should pay our taxes, as we all use the roads, the bridges, the internet, we sleep better at night knowing our troops guard our country. If you rich a$$es don’t want to pay….don’t use our roads our bridges our schools our military.
Gene… the problem with you leftist freaks is that you actually believe that you have some say over what other people’s time is worth or not worth. Stick your busy body nose back in your business. If Mitt makes 4452 per hour, then that’s what he’s worth. If you make $17.50 an hour, that’s what you are worth. Don’t like it? Increase your worth. And quit being so damned greedy that you deman other people’s money, Gene.
Have a nice night, Gene!
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency…Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” – Czech Republic newspaper Prager Zeitung
In the September 24, 2012 issue of Newsweek, on page seven, you’ll find this quote: “Mr. Prime Minister, tell me, who is our biggest enemy, the U. S. or Iran? Who do you want replaced, Ahmadinejad or Obama?” The quote is from Israel’s opposition leader, Shaul Mofaz, who posed it as a public question to Benjamin Netanyahu.
If this guy thinks the United States is an enemy, then he must favor the severing of diplomatic relations between the United States and Israel. That might be a good thing for the United States, as it would save us the billions that we’re giving Israel. It might also free us of having to continually hear the propaganda that Israel is our best friend and ally in the Middle East.
Bit too elliptical–can you be more explicit?…assume you are not an offshore tax cheat, but a peon like me…what do you suppose accounts for the pervasive bitterness among cohorts that already have too much–but want more?
How many 300-foot yachts, Lears & Maseratis can a guy sail, fly & drive at one time? what does Ann Romney do w/the other Cadillac & the 5-7 mansions to which she has title?
Every study shows that money means misery & that happiness derives from making a CONTRIBUTION to H. sap. sap [try donating 17% of your salary to the Global South desperate]…excess leaves the bitter taste of unslaked greed [read Bible].
Respondent [now in his 9th decade] has lost life-savings of $10.3M & misses only toothpaste & caviar (:-).
Amigo–if you’ve lost everything too, find the real culprits & drive them out of power [watching Link channel would be a good start].
The Right Wing took power in 1980 & held on by exploiting the natural fears & resentments of
–anarchists [despise govt on principle]
–fathers wrongly deprived of their kids
–militant Neocons & jingos
–anhedonists [pleasure is evil]
Wraps in everybody but us bi-coastal, ivy-atheist, pinko, faggot, NPR-types
You can save y/self if you join us Populists & stop swallowing the garbage fed you nite & day by multi-millionaire fearmonger Rush Lowbrow & company
Couldn’t agree more if I’d said it myself!
The cartoon should have them walking on the billions of American dollars spent on this fiasco. Also notice that the first guy to find the bomb and get blown up is American. Is this a real war?
It should go one step further….those billions of $ should be getting stuffed down into a giant pocket, marked Halliburton/KBR-CHENEY.
You have to wonder whether Afghanistan can ever become a civilized country. It just seems that the culture they have is so perverted that it is beyond repair. A friend of mine says we should just nuke the whole country and get out, that these people are beyond help and have no concept of a modern society. They certainly don’t know anything about free speech or having respect for all religions.
Maybe he is right about the nuke thing but regardless we need to get our ground troops out and then maybe continue the war strictly from the air using drones.
That cartoon reminds me of the way my uncles and our neighbors who served in the Pacific Theater in WW2 (some of our neighbors were on a ship in the South Pacific on Dec 7, 1941, and did not get to come home until after Japan surrendered in 1945) talked about the Filipinos and Chinese. The difference is that the Chinese could be counted on not to turn on us until they could realize a profit from doing so while the Filipinos would just stab you in the back at any moment. Understandable since the Filipinos had been fighting us since 1899.
You are pathetically naive. How do you know how the cell phone was positioned? Did someone from Mittens’ campaign tell you?
As to how Mittens reports his earnings, i.e. as capital gains instead of salary: If he worked for Bain Capital as its CEO, he cannot legally claim all or even most of his earnings as capital gains because he performed an employee’s functions. The compensation for performing those functions must be reported as earned income subject to federal and state income taxes and the relevant payroll taxes.
This is nothing new in taxation. A CPA in the midwest formed a Subchapter S corporation and tried to report all of his earnings on the resulting Schedule K-1 as the net profit from his corporation. The Internal Revenue Service and the Social Security Administration jumped all over it as a dodge for evading payroll taxes, i.e. Social Security, Medicare, unemployment. As punishment, they reclassified all of his corporation’s revenue as his salary and levied a substantial tax, penalty and interest charge against him.
Now, let’s talk about the ethics of the voters’ wanting to see a candidate’s income tax returns. I believe and I think that most voters will agree with me that part of their decision on for whom to vote depends on how they perceive the candidates’ ethics. A candidate who pays minimal taxes because of how he characterizes his income is perceived by many if not most voters as unethical. True, the tax avoidance moves of the candidate may be permissable according to the law, but it is naive to not know that our tax laws for the past several Republican administrations have been passed according to the dictates of the rich through their lawyers and lobbyists. Sure, the rich may be reporting their income according to the law, but they are the one’s who are creating those laws.
Are you following me, OMG? Can you see the ethical dilemma here? You can? Good. There’s hope for you yet.
Let’s see. Where are we? Oh yeah, about printing money. The President doesn’t order the printing of additional money. Congress does. Congress does that to meet the nation’s currency needs, to pay the nation’s bills, etc. What administration in recent history did more than the Bush administration to cause us to spend excessively on a phony war and the placement of troops in countries like Iraq and Afghhanistan? Clinton left office with our finances in pretty good shape. Bush, Cheney and his rich friends ruined us. If that clown Romney is elected, he and his rich buddies will get us into another war, with Iran. How will that give us any monetary stability?
You pose a rehetorical question: Am I concerned about the wealth of the Democrats? No, I’m not, because they aren’t trying to pick my pocket by reducing my health coverage and my monthly Social Security payments. The Republican rich are. They are without a doubt the meanest bunch of sons of bitches in politics today.
I won’t wish you a hypocritical “Have a nice day,” because I don’t care if you have a nice day. I think that you’re a nasty prick and I hope that you go to hell.
CPA.. where the cell phone is positioned is self evident. Watch it, you moron. As to what Mitt Romney earns or pays in taxes, he does so lawfully. I find it odd how you think that anyone seeking to keep more of their own money is somehow keeping money from you. Actually, it’s not odd. It’s called being a greedy and lazy leftist piece of garbage that believes you have a right to the earnings of another man for your living. What a loser!
One other point… Congress does not control the currency. They should, but they don’t. The Federal Reserve does. And in conjunction with the US Treasury, they print money out of thin air. And they are doing it faster and faster. If you are retired, have you noticed you’re not making any interest? Have you noticed that the cost of everything you buy has gone through the roof? It’s not that they are getting more expensive, it’s that your dollars are becoming worthless. This is called monetizing the debt. You know that. It started with Bush, but has gone ballistic under Obozo who has grown the debt by more than $6 TRILLION now in 3.5 years. If you are retired, voting for Obozo is like screwing yourself.
You didn’t address several of the points that I made. All you did was continue your silly ranting. How do you know that “…what Mitt romney earns or pays in taxes, he does so lawfully?” Are you privy to his personal affairs? Are you his financial manager?
At least one tax specialist has questioned Bain capital’s action in reporting its management fees as investment income. There’s a good chance they’ll get “nailed” on that bit of financial hocus pocus.
The federal reserve prints money subject to the limits placed on it by Congress. it’s called the debt limit.
I’m surprised that you admit that this mess started with Bush: there’s hope for you yet. You’re wrong when you assert that Obama made it worse. What made it worse and what continues to make it worse is the lingering effect of Bush’s actions, e.g. the continuing wars in the Middle East. The mess started by Bush and his neocon scumbag friends is difficult to cure.
CP… you are a fool. If you think that Romney MAY have done something illegal, and the media NOT know about it, and the IRS NOT audit him, you’re even dumber than you lead on to be. For Pete’s sake, they went back 47 years to try to get dirt on him and have speculation that he hazed another teenager by giving him a haircut. You are too stupid for words if you believe yourself. And stop spreading lies about other people.
At least 1 tax specialist? Huh???? Like that’s credible! You’re getting more and more stupid as time goes on. There’s at least a small percentage of humans that think the world is still flat or think the lunar landing was staged in on a set in AZ. There’s still a large number of people that think Obozo was born in Kenya. Just because 1 person makes an accusation doesn’t make it true, you dope! Besides, Romney hasn’t been involved with Bain for 10+ years. In fact, the current guy running it has been a big DemonRATic party supporter and is a bundler for Obozo. Somehow, I don’t think Bain has anything to worry about, even if they are doing something illegal. Crap! Even Jon Corzine got away with stealing $2 BILLION in client money and that was just swept under the rug like nothing happened.
Actually, the mess did not start with Bush, it started with Clinton and that ugly dike Reno enforcing the CRA aggressively, forcing banks to make loans that they otherwise never would have done before. And with Greenspan keeping interest rates too low and money essentially free. I’ve addressed this at length in other discussions. Bush and the Repubs knew this problem was building and tried to do something, but were too feckless to fight back against DemonRAT blocks to their attempts. Look it up.
When it comes to spreading lies, you’re an expert, but I doubt that you’re good for anything else. You’re one of the typical rich elitist pricks that Romney and his right wing scumbags love.
Under the guise of conservatism you want to eliminate the American middle class and replace it with a right wing dictatorship of the rich. You want to see a plutocracy that reduces America to a nation of serfs.
For all your money you’re basically no better than the NAZIs, whose policies ultimately reduced Germany to Europe’s pariah.
Romney’s affiliation with Bain continued long after he claimed in writing that it had ended. Like his rich buddies, he cannot be relied on to tell the truth.
You said this morning that you’re rich. Hopefully, you’re also retired, so that no one has to work under your direction.
As to the mess: It did start with Bush. Deregulation started with Bush, the phony war in Iraq started with Bush, the mortgage crisis developed under Bush. This whole pile of crap started with Bush.
CP… you are rapidly devolving into the class of posters that is so blinded by jealousy and envy that they cannot see any truth. Anyone that challenges your notions of proletariat vs. bourgeois is immediately deemed a “NAZI”. When are you gonna throw out the race card, moron? Next post?
Since you are so stupid, I will do the basic homework for you to let you know that it was Clinton who repealed Glass-Steagall which prevented investment banking and retail banking from combining. It was Clinton and the ugly dike Reno that strongarmed banks into lending to poor people that can’t pay off loans through the CRA and use of ACORN. It was Obozo himselft that sued Citibank to force them to make loans in bad neighborhoods. It was Barney cocksucker Frank and Chris “gimme a sweetheart deal mortgage” Dodd that blocked Republican efforts for stronger oversight of Fannie and Freddie. It was clearly DemonRATS and their efforts to skew the markets for their socialist dreams of increased homeownership. After all, it’s the DemonRATS that are constantly pushing social engineering goals. Clearly it’s the DemonRATS that have f**ked everything up. They always do.
This nonsese about abolishing the middle class is nothing but absolute bullsheet, and you know it. Only a complete moron believes that crap. Count yourself as a believer.
No… not retired. Long time to go for that. Will not get a dime in SS.
As William Voegeli put it in Never Enough: America’s Limitless Welfare State, “Liberals don’t want the government to grow indefinitely. They just want it to be bigger than it is right now. The corollary of this stance is liberals’ refusal even to entertain questions on the dimensions of a welfare state that is exactly the right size.”
OMG—“LEFTIST FREAK?” “NOSEY BUSY BODY?” WILLARD ROMNEY is running for PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES ….. THAT makes him MY BUSINESS…..That makes him EVERY AMERICAN’s BUSINESS….or he should just drop the FUCK out of the race. When you can get that into you greedy mind…..write back…until then you are in my ignore list. Unless I want to call you on your unrepetant GREED. You want to see a true American with the right attitude….watch RONALD REAGAN on you tube dot com forward slash watch?v=E_XUAk-PVJ0 ….. You have stated your case and you have been weighed, you have been measured and you have been found wanting. OBAMA 2012.