Comments on: Rationalizing Gutlessness On Guns

By: mhuff255

mhuff255 — Sat, 28 Jul 2012 14:37:00 +0000

this isn’t a 2nd amendment issue it’s about keeping guns out of the hands of people that don’t legally deserve that right. that slippery slope that the nra constantly talks about when attempting to knock down any rules or regulations tells me that there footing isn’t to good. They should know that it’s in there best interest to eliminate illegally obtained guns.

manufactures don’t sell guns to person that aren’t legally allow to have them. So that would means that everyone that commits a crime every killing, every robbery had to be SOLD a gun illlegally (small amount stolen) so some legal gun owner sold someone that gun. Shouldn’t they be held responsible… what’s the nra position on there member s selling guns to people that shouldn’t have them…ignorant is no excuse .

my second point is that gun violence has always been at a acceptable level, meaning that it’s basically an inner city problem black and minorities the poor etc etc etc,,,,now that its a white folk problem playing in the suburbias, it’s a problem…. the nra better wake up because once those republican soccer moms in the burbs decide that this is a problem there husband will be on the spot and all the gun nuts wont have the support of a large part of there base… another tragedy like aurora dead white kids… will tip the balance… i’m the president of the nra get on the side of stopping gun nuts from jeorapizing the rights of those gun owners that follow the rules …. because it’s going to be the gun nuts not liberal politicians that cost them there rights… once the white people in the suburbs don’t feel safe then it becomes a problem thats the reality of america

By: Nick559

Nick559 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:01:00 +0000

The criminal system is the drain. just compare court costs and fees compared to the civil systems. Taxpayers flip the bill for the criminal justice system almost in it’s entirety.

By: ObozoMustGo

ObozoMustGo — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:46:00 +0000

Nice try. What you fail to understand is that DemocRATS lose on this issue all the time because they support gun control or banning of guns. I can assure that if a Republican had the same position, he/she would be equally challenged to win in 99% of America. This is what TC and I mean when we say it is an “American issue”. It DOESNT MATTER which party you are in if you support gun control. Contrast that to abortion. Dems like abortions, Repubs dislike abortions. Not 100%, of course, but you can draw this issue pretty much on party lines. Can you figure this out now? I know you guys on the left are severely challenged in the logic department when it comes to political and economic thought, but I’m trying to make it easy for you.

Have a nice day!

By: Cirriuos

Cirriuos — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:46:00 +0000

People keep bringing up the OKC bombing as an example of why there shouldn’t be restrictions on semi auto guns/high capacity magazines when indeed the comparison is more apt then they realize!

1) The fertilizer used by the OKC bomber was ammonium nitrate and it’s sale since the OKC bombing has been regulated. There is discussion about further tightening those regulations. Google ammonium nitrate regulations and you’ll get a slew of infromation. 2) Access to the federal buildings by vehicles and pedestarians has been altered and tightly controlled.

There are large concrete posts and no parking restrictions in front of many public buildings from local court houses to federal buildings. I remember when those did not exist.

By: Dave_dido

Dave_dido — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:30:00 +0000

You were commenting on TCBURCH’s post in which he commented that Dems seem to think that only Repubs, Tea-Partyers and conservatives own guns.He said it was” not a political issue” and you agreed saying, “It is an American issue, not a party issue.” Then in your next post you made it a party issue by saying,” Democrats always lose on gun control because of that nasty little document called “The Constitution” and the pesky little second amendment.” Now if that’s not making it a political issue, I don’t know what is. What exactly did you mean when you said it’s “not a party issue”? What qualifies as a “party issue”? Of course, almost all of the posts in the National Memo are about American issues- that goes without saying. When we talk about healthcare or superpacs or welfare or taxes in these posts we’re not talking about Russian or French things, are we?My point is that you make every issue a political issue by your incessant ranting about democRATS and “leftist nutjobs”. Can you ever discuss an issue without trying to polarize everone involved in the discussion as “left” or “right”?

By: ObozoMustGo

ObozoMustGo — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:07:00 +0000

Dave…. nothing in my post goes against the fact that guns are an American issue. And the party that goes against it will lose every time because IT IS AN AMERICAN ISSUE. Don’t you get it? Knock knock… helloooo… is anyone in there????

Have a nice day!

By: Dave_dido

Dave_dido — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:37:00 +0000

Mr Dionne cites statistics related to death by firearms. Oklahoma City, 911, terrorist bombings in Europe, etc. are not the topic of this article. Those awful events are for a separate discussion.Your comment about a ban on fertilizer,while perhaps thought-provoking, is not pertinent to the issue of death by firearms. The fact remains that the U.S. is way out in front in death by firearms. Can we do better? I think we can. As with healthcare, education and a whole host of other issues, it all depends on what kind of country we want to have. Maybe it doesn’t matter to you that we have more deaths by firearms than the rest of the industrialized world combined. To me it is a statistic that brings shame to the country I love.

By: Dave_dido

Dave_dido — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:16:00 +0000

I thought you said it was an American issue and not a party issue. Your comment above is a contradiction, Mr. Obozo. If you could just overcome your neuroses about “leftist Democrats” then you might be able to contribute something meaningful to these posts. As it is, you make yourself irrelevant. Sorry.

By: widollar

widollar — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:24:00 +0000

The power of the gun lobby clearly demonstrates why America is in the dumpster. Special interest Groups have bought Congress, and the middle class of America suffers. But that’s the GOP Master Plan. Mitt Romney will buy the oval office with the help of his billionare buddies, and then the great train wreck for the middle class begins, unfortunately!

By: sigrid28

sigrid28 — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:39:00 +0000

The criminal justice system would go along swimmingly, as it does now despite the ministrations of the civil courts. There would still be government funding running the criminal justice system, and many lawyers making a good living. But if we could save money, perhaps it could go toward helping uninsured victims of gun carnage in this country. Believe me, we will run out of money long before we run out of them.