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Friday, September 30, 2016

When you’re so unhinged that even RightWingWatch considers you too crazy to cover, perhaps you should think about getting professional help. But that’s the thing about conservatives in this country… there’s no such thing as “too crazy” anymore. And that’s precisely why the Republican Party is speeding down the road to irrelevance faster than one of their beloved bullets.

So when conservative internet radio host Pete Santilli went on a rant last week that could only be described as — well, there’s not really a word for the heinousness he spewed — you’d think we were talking about someone no one, not even Republicans, would want to be associated with. But no. GOP darlings Ted Nugent and Gun Owners of America executive director Larry Pratt have proudly appeared on Santilli’s show. A show where the host who, along with calling for President Obama and former president George W. Bush to be shot, says things like this:

Miss Hillary Clinton needs to be convicted, she needs to be tried, convicted and shot in the vagina. I wanna pull the trigger. That ‘C U Next Tuesday’ has killed human beings that are in our ranks of our service.

I want to shoot [Clinton] right in the vagina and I don’t want her to die right away; I want her to feel the pain and I want to look her in the eyes and I want to say ‘on behalf of all Americans that you’ve killed, on behalf of the Navy SEALS,’ … the families of Navy SEAL Team Six who were involved in the fake hunt down of this Obama bin Laden thing, that whole fake scenario – because these Navy SEALS know the truth, they killed them all – on behalf of all of those people, I’m supporting our troops by saying we need to try, convict, and shoot Hillary Clinton in the vagina.

Nice, huh? Karoli over at Crooks and Liars says Santilli was a frequent caller to a radio show she did back in 2008, claiming to be “an independent voter who wasn’t sure how he would vote” in that year’s presidential election. He was, she recalls, “disruptive and annoying but he wasn’t crazy and he wasn’t especially much of an independent either, but more of a straight-up conservative and conspiracy nut.”

Seems since then he’s graduated to straight-up lunatic who is not mentally fit to own a firearm… and who should probably be expecting a visit from the Secret Service.

Pressing the little triangle below will result in a very disturbing experience. Don’t say you weren’t warned.

  • midway54

    Just the kind of guy and his rants that the pathetic rightwing dupes and yahoos especially in the Red(neck) States cheer regularly. This is an excellent example of what kind of creatures have infested the Republican (read: Plutocratic) Party

    • Pete is not a right winger, he is above the phony left, right Paradigm!

      • MVH1

        Are you always hysterical and irrational?

      • charleo1

        Say this in your best whinny voice. “Pete is not a right winger.”
        “Pete didn’t threaten anyone.” “Right, What?” Are you his Mother?
        You sound like the Boston bomber’s Mother. My boy is innocent.
        He was framed.

      • dtgraham

        Pete is above the left/right paradigm all right. Way above. He’s pretty much out in orbit somewhere.

  • charleo1

    Until reading this article, I had not heard of this Santilli guy, But my impression
    is, like all entertainers, he’s trying to find his niche. Conservative talk radio is,
    in my opinion, a form of political porn. The listener may start out with Fox News’
    Bill O’Reilly. or Mike Huckabee. Decidedly Right Wingers, minus the shock jock
    tactics of a Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or Michael Savage. Some will disagree
    with me on Limbaugh. And, that’s fine, I’ll except that. But for the hard core, foaming at the mouth, certifiably unhinged, group, there is Pete Santilli. To paraphrase, comedian Jeff Foxworthy’s, you may be a redneck, riff. If you think President Obama staged the mission to take out Bin Laden, and then killed Seal Team Six, to silence them from telling the truth. And wonder why no one is
    informing the public about it? You could be a Pete Santilli, listener. Now look,
    here’s the deal on people like Santilli, or the hate filled crank in Central Fl. that publicly burns the Koran. And, the sickening, and outrageous, Westboro Baptist Church. Who have no problem in using the funerals of soldiers who died in the service of their Country, as publicity stunts, to advance their homophobic, agenda. They push to the limit, and perhaps beyond, everyone’s Right to free speech.
    And if it is decided, that the speech of this Santilli, incited the murder of one of the subjects of his tirades. And, that by the heinousness of the crime, it compels the government, to step into the role of censor. We all lose. For, it is the abuser of fundamental Rights, that threatens those Rights for all of us. If we didn’t kill ourselves, at an alarming rate. Or, no one ever entered a movie theater, or elementary school, with a gun, and shot innocent people to death. We wouldn’t need to consider limiting Second Amendment Rights for anyone. At one time,
    we bought our ticket, checked our luggage, and preceded to our boarding
    station. Now, the level of trust that permitted that convenience, and freedom,
    was forever destroyed by those who used that trust on 9/11. Now, we must
    all stand in line with our shoes off, be frisked, x-rayed, and patted down. And
    we dare not go back. And so, the extremist, the ideologue, the abuser of our Right to be simply left alone, has taken some of our liberties away. Such is always the
    price of Radicalism.

    • rustacus21

      I had to step back a bit & think about the implications for a minute; several things came to mind: 1) – this guy, like most conservatives, is oriented toward violence – 2) – like most conservatives, they fail in the realm of objective discussion or debate, degenerating into ‘comedic’ violence when it turns out of their favor – 3) – Conservative men have an innate hostility toward women. We can debate any aspect of the above, but we have to keep foremost in mind that conservatives in positions of power hammer the weakest (women, children, the poor) w/out remorse. This is why they can easily enter into needless war when there are peaceful, diplomatic options (dragging out the end of Vietnam & entering into Afghanistan & Iraq, w/out provocation or threat), or ‘violently’ cutting Public Ed & health/welfare programs beneficial to the poor, women and children. A re-reading of the Constitution tells us all we need to know – that conservatives are too irresponsible & volatile to hold elective office or be in highly sensitive hi-public profile media positions. Of course we have free speech rights, but we also have free will. It should be exercised at the cash register & the polling both; by w/holding our consumption from sponsors who support this ‘pornographic’ violence & placing more votes in support of Liberal/Progressives, we are sending our representatives a message of affirmative action that there must be penalties for this type of hate-filled speech, especially w/Mrs Clinton weighing a W.H. run & proof that this type of violent rhetoric incites the already manic, into action, as happened in Tuscon in January 2011… This is not humorous by ANY means!!!

      • Suralin Kotare

        Call him what he is. Santilli isn’t a conservative, he’s a reactionary. And the same goes for the GOP.

      • charleo1

        Well, you kind of laid one of the little boogers on the table, and
        dissected him, didn’t you? That’s a very good way to deal with
        these gutter rats. And, you’re right. That T-Party outfit has been
        nothing, but irresponsible. There is no doubt in my mind, some
        of them bastards sitting in the Halls of Congress in Washington
        D.C. that came in on a ton of dark money, under the T-Party
        brand, hate this Country, with every bit as much venom as any
        Mid-East terrorist. And, you called it right, again. They insist we
        live in an armed camp, bristling with firearms. And do nothing to
        keep weapons out of the hands of the insane. Then, put a jack
        ass on the radio, urging them, inflaming them, and justifying the
        violence. Then, when it happens. Like in Tuson, with Gabby
        Giffords. They are all just so confused, and victimized, that
        anyone could possibly think….And, by the next week, they
        are back to ultimate rage mode, over the Left Wing media
        using a tragedy, to try and silence their Right to free speech.

      • angelsinca

        ” this guy, like most conservatives, is oriented toward violence ”

        Pure BS. Based on a recent comparison between Occupy and Tea Party protestors and the amont of arrests, violence and general mayhem caused by each, it looks like the ‘prone to violence’ conservatives picked up after themselves, did not get arrested and didn’t cause any damage, unlike the ‘peaceful’ liberal occupy protestors.

        • FredAppell

          I’ll admit that there was some bad stuff going down at the OWS
          protests. The message was good but the trouble only started
          once different scumbags started to infiltrate the protesters. I’m
          talking about the reports of rape and drug dealing and drug use.
          Some people only went because they knew they could get a free
          meal. Too many of those people were there for personal gain but that wasn’t the aim of the movement. Unfortunately, the whole thing ended up being tainted because of a few bad apples
          and because it was poorly organised.

          You also have to consider where the rallies took place, that does make a big difference. Tea Party rallies typically took place in the suburb’s while OWS rallies took place right in the heart of
          the financial districts of our major cities. The arrests were a
          consequence of the disruption to business. Both sides have troublemakers. But you are on a progressive blog, I have visited conservative blogs, it’s all par for the course.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            These “protests” are nothing compared to what went on during the Nam War.

            Also, demonstrations today are a complete shadow compared to what took place during the Depression. And, when a company closed, mass riots in the streets.

            When people wanted to start unions in their companies people died fighting getting them in.

            Today, you’ll never see this sort of radical activism. People have become too complacent and way too comfortable.

          • FredAppell

            Hey! I was just E-mailing you when I saw your message come in.
            I freely admit that I am as guilty as everyone else in that regard.
            The truth is that many of us have it far better than the people
            who willingly had put themselves in peril for their principles. We don’t like to admit we have become accustomed and a little spoiled to a standard of living that was virtually unheard of decades ago. I think the one exception is possibly my parents
            Generation. A family could live quite comfortably on one income
            when I was growing up. That was all made possible by people
            who were involved in those demonstrations. Mike, conditions may force us to get that active again but I do wonder at how high the threshold will get before that happens.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Well Fred, the way society is today, I think that threshold is going to have to get quite high, or people’s living standards are going to need to get even more threatened then they are now. Right now, the official government unemployment figure is around, what, 8% or so? What about all the other people who aren’t counted that should be? It’s a government smokescreen NOT counting these other people. Why is that?, simply put, IF the government were to include all these other people, society would demand action, or they would eventually revolt.

            The basic problem is, is that people have taken too much for granted and not seen this coming sooner then they should have. They should have seen this coming with the signing of NAFTA and now with China gutting our manufacturing base.

            They’ve become lazy, meaning very little radical activism in the face of our declining wages and standard of living.

            Like I said many times before, our great grandparents would have never tolerated this crap that is going on today. I doubt they would have tolerated the signing of NAFTA back then.

          • angelsinca

            “the whole thing ended up being tainted because of a few bad apples”

            excellent point

    • Garry Owen Ault

      Since Lee surrendered to Grant, ENDING THE SOUTHERN INSURRECTION, and an Amendment to the Constitution ended Slavery in the U.S., the armed militias in the Plantation States that became the the Number 2 past of the Bill of
      Rights, became a MOOT POINT. And the so called battle of States Rights was
      also just as MOOT when President Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion.

      • charleo1

        Well, I certainly agree with that. I think history agrees as well.
        But, there remains the Southern rendition of U.S. history. We
        got a little taste of it from Sarah Palin last year. As she visited
        The Old North Church. She told how Paul Revere rode his
        steed through the New England, darkness shouting to his
        Countrymen. I swear, I,m not making this up.) Shouting, “The
        British are coming, for our guns!”

      • FredAppell

        Thank you! This doesn’t get mentioned nearly enough. The Fed was the law of the land from day one. Our forefathers came to learn rather quickly that real world events sometimes forces people to compromise
        their own principles. Washington did it with the Whisky Rebellion and
        Jefferson did it with the Barbary pirates and he made that order without the consent of congress. The Federal Government and the power of the Presidency has grown stronger with every administration but the right
        wing wants to ignore that fact.

  • That’s probably as close as Santilli would ever get to a vagina.

    • rustacus21

      … besides the OBVIOUS FACT that Mrs Clinton is way too much woman for a wuss like him, the reality has literally driven this fool INSANE!!! This sort of pronouncement is still illegal, I would think & expect that charges (of SOME type) WILL be filed, i.e., the provocations which reached out & impacted former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. In order for a “Law & Order” society to function, it MUST be deployed!!! Otherwise, the crazies are the ‘rule of law’, which is NOT where our Constitution imagined we’d be at this point in time!!!

  • elw

    Why would anyone sane listen to a wacko like Santilli. I think he need to be locked away from society.

    • Because they’re pandering to the insane. Ted Nugent and Larry Pratt don’t believe idiots like these are relevant, but they’re hoping they can get one of them riled up enough to start firebombing.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        This is exactly the type of Hate Speech that can inflame someone to actually do the deed.

        In these types of situations, I think Freedom of Speech has been taken way to far. It’s infringing on Insanity and needs to be quashed.

      • elw

        They would think they are relevant if they were speaking from the Left. My concern is how dangerous these types are, they are cowards who would not follow through themselves but will gladly push someone else into action.

      • Garry Owen Ault

        Why would the Gun Nuts want to use Firebombs when they claim to have 7 Million overly Armed members just waiting to take on the damned
        Gubbmit.

      • JSquercia

        Actually I was kind of hoping Ted Nugent WOULD be DEAD or in Jail as he predicted should Obama win

        • plc97477

          It can still happen. I can’t say I will weep for him.

  • Lynda Groom

    This idiot should certainly be on somebodies watch list. Folks like him are a disgrace and an embarrassment, not to mention dangerous to themselves and others.

  • Michael Kollmorgen

    Whether you would like to or intend to kill someone, no matter who and publicly state it, you should be tried for attempted murder.

    It’s one thing to think this in your private thoughts. But to publicly state it is another.

    Since Hillary is a Federal Official, the FBI should be perusing charges against this man, taking this man to Federal Court and making whatever case they have to to send this guy to jail for a long long time.

    If even this was Joe Blow walking down the street, this person should be going to jail saying these types of things against an average citizen.

    Why is the FBI letting these types of people get away with this sort of crap is totally beyond me. This all is very close to being Treasonous.

    • Pete didn’t threaten anyone, and as far as the Secret service, and FBI, pete has called them on many occasion!

      • MVH1

        I just bet he has. Reporting Hillary Clinton hiding in his shrubbery spying on him no doubt. Sounds like you and old Pete have a lot in common.

        • Michael Kollmorgen

          Gee, I wonder what Aliens are thinking of us IF they here what people say about each other over radio?

          Now I know why we haven’t seen any aliens for many years since Roswell. They’ve finally figured out we’re either too dumb or too dam dangerous to visit.

          • MVH1

            Excellent points! 🙂

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            I mean really, Radio and TV Signals travel at the speed of light. That places our signals reaching out to around the Alfa Centauri Star System by now.

            Yes, those signals are extremely weak by now. But, if someone has the technology out there, they can pick this stuff up.

            If anyone is listening in, they must be getting a real kick out of our stupidity. It don’t bode well for the human race, that’s for sure.

            Chances are there are way more advanced civilizations out there then ours. I wonder how they would handle these Republicans and Teabaggers?

            We haven’t figured out how to zap them out of existence. Maybe they have!

          • MVH1

            Well, now, if they have a GOP/Teabagger zapper, ask them to proceed.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            Believe me, I would LOVE to:)

            Have a nice day:)

          • MVH1

            You also. 🙂

          • Even if they needed our water, they’d be like, “NOPE! Not worth it! Let this civilization implode, we’ll come back for the water when they’re gone.”

    • BlueJoubert

      What with ‘second amendment remedies’ and Nugent threatening to kill the President, and all the other reich wingnuts calling for violence on a daily basis (oftentimes even from a pulpit,) I am very VERY afraid it is only a matter of time before something horrible does happen. And then they will sit back and deny culpability.

  • bpai99

    Interesting how so many conservatives feel it acceptable to commit murder or treason so long as it is done to advance conservative ideals.

    • Pete never threatened anyone, please get your facts straight before opening your mouth!

      • idamag

        The Bible says, “As a man thinketh, so is he.” That makes him a murderer who just hasn’t done the deed, yet.

        • neeceoooo

          very well said

          • MVH1

            Then give him an upvote.

        • kent doering

          Actually, the Santilli nutcase is liable to charges of “verbal assault”. that is is if I were to threaten someone with using Tai Kwan Do to punche them out, I would be guilty of “assault with a deadly weapon.” Were I to carry it out, it would be “assault and battery with a deadly weapon. Legally, he is guilty of verbal assault with a deadly weapon for claiming he would like to shoot Clinton in the vagina. (Sexually sadistic and insane.) If there is a life hereafter, that Santilli nut is definitely going to be rotting forever in the lowest of the New Hells along with all the other fascists.

      • MVH1

        His words are the kinds of words that can incite another, slightly more off balance idiot than he, to try to shoot someone. We have our facts straight, Sweetie. And fact is, you’re as bad as Santilli.

      • What are you talking about? He said he wanted to shoot her. If you’re deaf, you can read his remarks in the story.

      • I want to shoot [Clinton] right in the vagina and I don’t want her to die right away
        Not a threat? really!

      • Garry Owen Ault

        So nice of you to provide the proof of your problems in life.

      • plc97477

        What would you consider a threat if that doesn’t make it.? You sound very much like a mother trying to keep her son off the electric chair.

    • angelsinca

      “Interesting how so many conservatives feel it acceptable to commit murder or treason”

      Not inteteresting, just ignorant. You may want to research the statistics on political affiliation and its connection to violence. Basically, there isn’t one, except for extreme groups like the occupiers. But, even the Tea Party protests were entirely peaceful. Wouldn’t it be nice if you could just lock up all the conservatives and deprive them of food, comfort and joy? Thought so. Achtung!, baby.

  • pbrower2a

    Bigoted, sexist, violent, irresponsible… is there no limit?

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      You have to remember, these are Republicans and Teabaggers. There is NO bottom of any barrel with them.

      • MVH1

        No. There isn’t. If Hell is way down below, and there’s nothing further down, then Hades is their bottom of the barrel.

        • kent doering

          And the people obsessed with power at the point of a gun are all going to end up in Hades.

          • MVH1

            Amen. I guess we should say “amen” as we see them descending to Hell.

    • MVH1

      Nope, no limit. He’s thoroughly vile, along with anyone who would defend what he said.

    • And a partridge in a pear tree.

  • montanabill

    The week in Strange. After a significant search, a right wing internet commentator was found making inappropriate comments. After no search, no left wing commentators were found saying anything mean spirited, nasty or inappropriate. Pay no attention to the responses to this post.

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      Good idea, I won’t.

      Oh shucks, I just did, hehe.

    • Mortalc01l

      Show me a quote from a Left wing radio host where he threatens to shoot a Republican in the balls; where he says he wants that Republican to suffer and feel pain.. Go on, find one for us …. crickets….

      • montanabill

        How about a nice video:

        www dot outsidethebeltway dot com/left-wing-protesters-call-for-clarence-thomas-to-be-lynched/

        • Mortalc01l

          I don’t see anything in there that mentions shooting, genitals, or them saying they want to watch him suffer.. Try again.

          • montanabill

            An internet radio host doesn’t have any larger stage than YouTube. Hatred and violence talk comes from the loons on both sides.

  • angelsinca

    A call for violence form someone on the right is highly disturbing and likely due their political affiliation, proclaims the liberal. Deeds of violence from someone on the left are mostly ignored and have nothing to do with their ideology, the liberal assures us.

    • Garry Owen Ault

      And those on he Right that cannot stand he heat do the level best they can attain to hang it on the Liberals. Sorry but it just does not fly and you very well
      know just what it is.

      • angelsinca

        Sure, whatever you say. I still hear the echoes of Bush blaming Clinton for every single failed policy, decision, and illegal gov’t intrusion…oh wait.

        • False Dichotomy

          I dunno… I think Bush SHOULD have blamed Clinton for slaughtering 5,000 American soldiers and incinerating up to 8 trillion dollars in a reckless, disastrous blunder of choice.

          No, wait…

          Oh, well… I guess it’s time to update all the dictionaries to redefine “conservative”; It just doesn’t f*cking make sense any more.

          • angelsinca

            Let me give you my number. Please call in 3-1/2 years when you couldn’t possibly still be fixated on Bush. Perhaps if we focused on the NOW and beyond, we might all BEGIN to move forward out of the muck.

          • False Dichotomy

            No… Not “fixated on Bush”… Don’t play that disingenuous strawman sh*t with me 🙂

            Fixated on NEVER EVER EVER again senselessly slaughtering 5,000 fellow Americans, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and pissing away many trillions of dollars, all the while fomenting anti-American sentiment across the globe as a result. If individuals and governments don’t learn from their massive mistakes, then that is the most foolish thing ever.

            And if these reckless, careless, incompetent f*ckups would at least TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for their historic, disastrous blunder, that would be one thing. But they have only doubled-down in true, arrogant politician fashion. Not only that, the mindless assh*les had the nerve to question the very patriotism and validity of every person who dared question their epic mismanagement.

            Now, although it is not a comparable situation, if the Affordable Care Act turns out to be a failure and a disaster, will you implore its opponents to stop bitching about it for years? I hope not.

          • angelsinca

            “if the Affordable Care Act turns out to be a failure and a disaster, will you implore its opponents to stop bitching about it for years? I hope not.”

            If the ACA is repealed, the opponents won’t be bitching about it anymore. If another, better plan replaces the ACA tomorrow, the sponsors will be hailed as heroes throughout the land. If they wait for it to fail, they should be looking for new jobs.

          • angelsinca

            “If individuals and governments don’t learn from their massive mistakes, then that is the most foolish thing ever.”

            With 50,000 dead in Vietnam, THAT was supposed to be the one to measure future foolishness. Still is.

          • False Dichotomy

            Exactly. Thanks for bolstering my point 🙂

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            I like your Tia Chi:)

          • False Dichotomy

            It goes well with my chai tea…

            Huh?!

  • “I want to shoot [Clinton] right in the vagina and I don’t want her to die right away”
    IF this guy is allowed to get away with saying thngs like this then we as a nation have failed ourselves.
    This is a blatent threat aainst a Federal gov’t worker.
    Looks like we have another candidate for one of those cherished spots in GitMo!

  • Dave

    How many firearms does the obviously mentally ill Mr. Santilli own?

  • Garry Owen Ault

    Where the Hell is the FCC? He should be not just Banned from Broadcasting but restricted from ever Broadcasting again.

    • montanabill

      Did you miss the word, ‘internet’?

  • g_man954

    I would vehemently hope that this is NOT the future of America….for talk show hosts to talk in this manner is unacceptable to say the least. Not only do borderline potential assassins hear this but so do our children. If a murder was committed and linked to his remarks he would say, “Oh no, guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. But then he says these things to get a higher listener audience and for money. He doesn’t understand the meaning of responsibility or consequences of one’s words and actions. FBI red flags should be all over this crazy man…..God help this country.

  • This would be what they would in a fascist state. Targeting people for what they say or believe in is exactly what the Obama thugs are doing. Must seem ironic for sheep like you.

  • False Dichotomy

    Outfuckingstanding.

    Who the hell needs terrorists and deranged, sociopathic lunatics when you have… terrorists and deranged, sociopathic lunatics… Oh, yeah… right. The only difference between this hate-infested piece of sh*t and actual terrorists is that he hasn’t pulled the trigger or detonated the bomb (yet).

    So goes the “Republican” “re-branding” and “outreach”. Man, these as*holes today HAVE to be extremist, left-wing operatives determined to destroy the GOP from the inside out. Nothing else makes sense.

  • doncanard

    he’s the usual right-wing chickensh1t who can’t get any – little dominance punks who eat their own fudge. What else is new ?

  • Typical republican christian nut. This is how the religious believe. Scary. I hate religion for it is all imaginary and evil.

  • Gerald Dobronov

    I say encourage this guy to spout off as much as possible and keep reporting it. We want him, and those like him, to be solidly identified with the Tea Party and therefore the GOP. He’s the best weapon for sane, progressive people in the long run. As the old saying goes “give ’em enough rope and they’ll hang themselves”.

  • Renshia

    Bunch of gun nutters. these are the ones that need purged.