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		<title>By: grammyjill</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79726</link>
		<dc:creator>grammyjill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually he set 200 marines within hours, and the battleships were sent in that direction at the same time and the drones the next day. He had to get permission from the president there. Also, the libyan government had four under arrest and questioning more within 24 hours. You really should try watching something besides fox. You&#039;re missing alot!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually he set 200 marines within hours, and the battleships were sent in that direction at the same time and the drones the next day. He had to get permission from the president there. Also, the libyan government had four under arrest and questioning more within 24 hours. You really should try watching something besides fox. You&#8217;re missing alot!</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Swinney</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79692</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Swinney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Keep dreaming As I do
We lose this time it is curtains for Middle Class which since 2000 has declined in numbers
We rank 4th on Inequality in oecd.
Richest nation on earth for top 10%

The good old days--plenty good jobs--pensions health care
affordable homes--1945-1980--It took 2.5 Years of averge income to buy an average size home. 5.4 years under Bush.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Keep dreaming As I do<br />
We lose this time it is curtains for Middle Class which since 2000 has declined in numbers<br />
We rank 4th on Inequality in oecd.<br />
Richest nation on earth for top 10%</p>
<p>The good old days&#8211;plenty good jobs&#8211;pensions health care<br />
affordable homes&#8211;1945-1980&#8211;It took 2.5 Years of averge income to buy an average size home. 5.4 years under Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: ObozoMustGo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79378</link>
		<dc:creator>ObozoMustGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[grammy.... uhhhh... in your fantasies he did that... he has done nothing after our sovereign territory was attacked and our ambassador was killed. It was an act of terrorism and your messiah the LIAR IN CHIEF OBOZO will not even admit that simple little fact. Instead, he spends a month lying to your face telling you it was about a YouTube trailer. How stupid are you? 

Any of you useful idiots that still support Obozo are like battered women getting the crap beat out them and still coming back for more. What&#039;s wrong with you? You like getting snot smacked out of you?

Have a nice day!

&quot;Blaming a 2-bit film for radical islamic violence is like blaming forks for obesity&quot; - ObozoMustGo ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grammy&#8230;. uhhhh&#8230; in your fantasies he did that&#8230; he has done nothing after our sovereign territory was attacked and our ambassador was killed. It was an act of terrorism and your messiah the LIAR IN CHIEF OBOZO will not even admit that simple little fact. Instead, he spends a month lying to your face telling you it was about a YouTube trailer. How stupid are you? </p>
<p>Any of you useful idiots that still support Obozo are like battered women getting the crap beat out them and still coming back for more. What&#8217;s wrong with you? You like getting snot smacked out of you?</p>
<p>Have a nice day!</p>
<p>&#8220;Blaming a 2-bit film for radical islamic violence is like blaming forks for obesity&#8221; &#8211; ObozoMustGo </p>
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		<title>By: jarheadgene</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79312</link>
		<dc:creator>jarheadgene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Montana.... In 65 my brother was in the USMC, living off of a little more than $100 a month, had a wife and decent 1 bedroom  apt. in San Diego, CA. In 1968, my first cousin died in Vietnam, while serving in the USMC. I was USMC active duty 1980-84. The picture below was taken circa 1965, Willard was in college...no wife...no kids yet.  Since you asked, what makes him a HYPOCRITICAL DRAFT DODGER is that he was protesting in favor of the war and in favor of the draft. THEN he took his MORMON draft differment and ran off to France as a moron missionary.....didn&#039;t matter what his draft number was...he nor his sons nor his dad....nor his grandad...nor his grandchildren will EVER SERVE in this country&#039;s military.  If you sense  &quot;VITRIOL&quot; it may be because my family has been serving this country from WWI to IRAQ(my nephew in the Army).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Montana&#8230;. In 65 my brother was in the USMC, living off of a little more than $100 a month, had a wife and decent 1 bedroom  apt. in San Diego, CA. In 1968, my first cousin died in Vietnam, while serving in the USMC. I was USMC active duty 1980-84. The picture below was taken circa 1965, Willard was in college&#8230;no wife&#8230;no kids yet.  Since you asked, what makes him a HYPOCRITICAL DRAFT DODGER is that he was protesting in favor of the war and in favor of the draft. THEN he took his MORMON draft differment and ran off to France as a moron missionary&#8230;..didn&#8217;t matter what his draft number was&#8230;he nor his sons nor his dad&#8230;.nor his grandad&#8230;nor his grandchildren will EVER SERVE in this country&#8217;s military.  If you sense  &#8220;VITRIOL&#8221; it may be because my family has been serving this country from WWI to IRAQ(my nephew in the Army).</p>
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		<title>By: dranyamelknur</title>
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		<dc:creator>dranyamelknur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How could any president be rated worse than G W Bush?  He took peace and prosperity and turned it into ineptitutde on domestic and foreign fronts.
 Either you think 9/11 and the anthrax letters show deliberate, vicious and calculating false flag operations, as I do, or you have to accept them as the most incredible ignorance, indifference and bungling on the part of the most overpaid and supplied military ever.  The fact that NORAD&#039;s response was made dependent on a signal from the President, Vice-President or the Secretary of Defense(For the First Time Ever) and none was given is unforgivable in itself.
These incidents  were then used as an excuse to launch two totally avoidable wars. 
 If all we really wanted was Osama bin Laden, why didn&#039;t we get him at Tora Bora? If the WTC were helpless to fend off the planes the buildings should not  still fragment into tiny pieces, and Building Seven was NOT even hit by a plane and did not have substantial fire damage!  More preposterous was the Pentagon Strike with NO defenses.  That would have to be the greatest improbability of all,  that the world&#039;s best defended building somehowtotally mismanaged its defenses. Norman Minetta witnessed Cheney getting updates on the approach of Fl. 77. Yet all those military bigshots got huge promotions.
Then the attacks on our Constitutional rights - horrendous.!The invasion of human rights through torture.  Of course, you can get false confessions and make new, real militants by using inhumane treatment.
The rip-off by war profiteers was incredible.  
The  elimination of wealth by the Big Banks and Wall Street profligacy and malfeasance almost proved critical.
Yet, somehow, as usual, a sounder , saner approach to governance leaves us gradually emerging.  Now, you want to turn the reins back over  to the man who made Massachusetts third to last in job growth and last in per capita debt in the country.Whose claim to fame and reason for riches is vulture capitalism and $2.7 billion taxpayer bailout for the Utah Olympics.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could any president be rated worse than G W Bush?  He took peace and prosperity and turned it into ineptitutde on domestic and foreign fronts.<br />
 Either you think 9/11 and the anthrax letters show deliberate, vicious and calculating false flag operations, as I do, or you have to accept them as the most incredible ignorance, indifference and bungling on the part of the most overpaid and supplied military ever.  The fact that NORAD&#8217;s response was made dependent on a signal from the President, Vice-President or the Secretary of Defense(For the First Time Ever) and none was given is unforgivable in itself.<br />
These incidents  were then used as an excuse to launch two totally avoidable wars.<br />
 If all we really wanted was Osama bin Laden, why didn&#8217;t we get him at Tora Bora? If the WTC were helpless to fend off the planes the buildings should not  still fragment into tiny pieces, and Building Seven was NOT even hit by a plane and did not have substantial fire damage!  More preposterous was the Pentagon Strike with NO defenses.  That would have to be the greatest improbability of all,  that the world&#8217;s best defended building somehowtotally mismanaged its defenses. Norman Minetta witnessed Cheney getting updates on the approach of Fl. 77. Yet all those military bigshots got huge promotions.<br />
Then the attacks on our Constitutional rights &#8211; horrendous.!The invasion of human rights through torture.  Of course, you can get false confessions and make new, real militants by using inhumane treatment.<br />
The rip-off by war profiteers was incredible.<br />
The  elimination of wealth by the Big Banks and Wall Street profligacy and malfeasance almost proved critical.<br />
Yet, somehow, as usual, a sounder , saner approach to governance leaves us gradually emerging.  Now, you want to turn the reins back over  to the man who made Massachusetts third to last in job growth and last in per capita debt in the country.Whose claim to fame and reason for riches is vulture capitalism and $2.7 billion taxpayer bailout for the Utah Olympics.</p>
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		<title>By: montanabill</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79112</link>
		<dc:creator>montanabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real truth:

 The claim that job creation in Massachusetts “fell” to 47th under Romney. That’s a bit misleading. Massachusetts’ state ranking for job growth went from 50th the year before he took office, to 28th in his final year. It was 47th for the whole of his four-year tenure, but it was improving, not declining, when he left.
 The claim that Romney “cut taxes for millionaires” isn’t as black-and-white as billed. Romney opposed a plan to impose a capital gains tax retroactively, insisting on delaying the hike eight months. That’s different than pushing for a tax cut.
The claims that Romney raised taxes on the middle class. It’s true that Romney imposed a number of fees, but none of them targeted middle-income persons. Also, Romney proposed cutting the state income tax three times — a measure that would have resulted in tax cuts for all taxpayers — but he was rebuffed every time by the state’s Democratic Legislature.
The claims Romney “left the state $2.6 billion deeper in debt.” It’s true that long-term bond debt — used for capital improvements — rose under Romney, as it had in the years before he took office. But Romney wasn’t piling up yearly deficits to support operating expenses the way the federal government is, because Massachusetts requires balanced budgets.
The claims that when Romney was governor, “Massachusetts lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs, a rate twice the national average.” That’s close to true, but the state lost a greater number of manufacturing jobs in the four years before Romney took office, and more in the four years after he left. In fact, the rate of job loss in manufacturing slowed during Romney’s time as governor.
The claims Romney “outsourced call center jobs to India.” Not exactly. What he did was veto a measure that would have prevented the state from doing business with a state contractor that was locating state customer-service calls in India. Democrats who controlled the Legislature could have overridden the veto, but didn’t. The veto was supported by leading newspapers as a savings to taxpayers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real truth:</p>
<p> The claim that job creation in Massachusetts “fell” to 47th under Romney. That’s a bit misleading. Massachusetts’ state ranking for job growth went from 50th the year before he took office, to 28th in his final year. It was 47th for the whole of his four-year tenure, but it was improving, not declining, when he left.<br />
 The claim that Romney “cut taxes for millionaires” isn’t as black-and-white as billed. Romney opposed a plan to impose a capital gains tax retroactively, insisting on delaying the hike eight months. That’s different than pushing for a tax cut.<br />
The claims that Romney raised taxes on the middle class. It’s true that Romney imposed a number of fees, but none of them targeted middle-income persons. Also, Romney proposed cutting the state income tax three times — a measure that would have resulted in tax cuts for all taxpayers — but he was rebuffed every time by the state’s Democratic Legislature.<br />
The claims Romney “left the state $2.6 billion deeper in debt.” It’s true that long-term bond debt — used for capital improvements — rose under Romney, as it had in the years before he took office. But Romney wasn’t piling up yearly deficits to support operating expenses the way the federal government is, because Massachusetts requires balanced budgets.<br />
The claims that when Romney was governor, “Massachusetts lost 40,000 manufacturing jobs, a rate twice the national average.” That’s close to true, but the state lost a greater number of manufacturing jobs in the four years before Romney took office, and more in the four years after he left. In fact, the rate of job loss in manufacturing slowed during Romney’s time as governor.<br />
The claims Romney “outsourced call center jobs to India.” Not exactly. What he did was veto a measure that would have prevented the state from doing business with a state contractor that was locating state customer-service calls in India. Democrats who controlled the Legislature could have overridden the veto, but didn’t. The veto was supported by leading newspapers as a savings to taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: montanabill</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79096</link>
		<dc:creator>montanabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excuse me, jarhead, but I was 29 in 69, just out of college and know better.  He wasn&#039;t anymore a hypocritical draft dodger than anyone else.   He had a family and you don&#039;t know what his draft number was.   I was draft age in the 60&#039;s, but never got the letter.  Even if I had,  I had two children by 62.   Save your vitriol for something that&#039;s true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, jarhead, but I was 29 in 69, just out of college and know better.  He wasn&#8217;t anymore a hypocritical draft dodger than anyone else.   He had a family and you don&#8217;t know what his draft number was.   I was draft age in the 60&#8242;s, but never got the letter.  Even if I had,  I had two children by 62.   Save your vitriol for something that&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: grammyjill</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-79000</link>
		<dc:creator>grammyjill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you weren&#039;t watching when he came out the next day and sent marines, two battleships and drones?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you weren&#8217;t watching when he came out the next day and sent marines, two battleships and drones?</p>
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		<title>By: grammyjill</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-difficulty-of-debating-a-clever-liar/#comment-78993</link>
		<dc:creator>grammyjill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I live in NH very close to the Mass border. He was a very bad govenor. Why do you think he was there only one term? He could have tried to get re elected. I have my own thoughts on that having watched it on the nightly news but you wouldn&#039;t believe me cause you think I&#039;m some damn liberal lyar, but I&#039;m not the only one that thinks it. Think about this: he raised fees on several things, he cut education, he oked the big dig. The contracts for that are questionable since they were his buddies. They used substandard materials. Part of the ceiling fell and killed a woman. Anyway, he raised fees so they couldn&#039;t be called taxes, he didn&#039;t put one cent into infrastructure. So, lots of money coming in none going out. I do mean none! He left office with an 18 billion dollar deficit. And the big dig is still a costly problem. So, money coming in none going out and an 18 billion dollar deficit. Where did the money go? No one can find out cause he took ALL the records with him. Would you trust that? I don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in NH very close to the Mass border. He was a very bad govenor. Why do you think he was there only one term? He could have tried to get re elected. I have my own thoughts on that having watched it on the nightly news but you wouldn&#8217;t believe me cause you think I&#8217;m some damn liberal lyar, but I&#8217;m not the only one that thinks it. Think about this: he raised fees on several things, he cut education, he oked the big dig. The contracts for that are questionable since they were his buddies. They used substandard materials. Part of the ceiling fell and killed a woman. Anyway, he raised fees so they couldn&#8217;t be called taxes, he didn&#8217;t put one cent into infrastructure. So, lots of money coming in none going out. I do mean none! He left office with an 18 billion dollar deficit. And the big dig is still a costly problem. So, money coming in none going out and an 18 billion dollar deficit. Where did the money go? No one can find out cause he took ALL the records with him. Would you trust that? I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: JudeLawGuardian</title>
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		<dc:creator>JudeLawGuardian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus. If you&#039;re gonna&#039; spew crap about Obama, at LEAST learn how to spell the religion. It&#039;s &quot;ISLAM&quot;, NOT &quot;ISLAIM, you backwoods, religitard fundie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus. If you&#8217;re gonna&#8217; spew crap about Obama, at LEAST learn how to spell the religion. It&#8217;s &#8220;ISLAM&#8221;, NOT &#8220;ISLAIM, you backwoods, religitard fundie.</p>
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