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Friday, January 18, 2019

The Straight Talk (Or Whatever) Express Rolls Again

The Straight Talk (Or Whatever) Express Rolls Again

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10 responses to “The Straight Talk (Or Whatever) Express Rolls Again”

  1. In all fairness, I believe Sen. McCain’s proposal to grant “guest worker” status to illegal immigrants a better solution to that aspect of immigration law reform than granting them a path to citizenship. His proposal would allow illegal immigrants to work, and pay taxes in the USA, without fear of deportation and without ignoring the fact that they broke our laws, regardless of how ineffective or unfair they may be.

    • Only problem is we already have such a vehicle in place. Workers are allowed to come from Mexico and work in certain industries and of course they pay taxes and are eligible for the draft but not SS or Medicare or Medicaid but hospital benefits so how does this help the situation? Do we just wait for them to self-deport if and when the jobs dry up? I also do not see the back of the line 15 year wait for citizenship and language requirement as being any sort of solution either. What I do see is the Republicans salivating over 11 million possible votes if they can find a way to con these people. today’s Republicans remember the boost Bush II got from instantly granting citizenship to the over 4 million undocumented immigrants before the election of 2004. If I am one of these workers the 15 year wait is very iffy for me. Lots can change in those 15 years. My basic training company at Fort Bliss, Texas in late 1966 was 50% Hispanic non citizens some of which spoke no English and decided not to stay for a war they did not want to die in for a country not their own. Can’t blame them either.

      • The “Guest Worker” program proposed by Sens. McCain and Kennedy was never implemented. In fact, Sen. McCain was forced to backpedal the last time he ran for re-election in Arizona and prove his anti-culturalism by proposing a higher wall to keep “undesirables” out of the country. My point, is that I don’t believe people who broke our laws, regardless of circumstances or how ineffective our immigration laws may be, should be given a path to citizenship. The Guest Worker program would legitimize the status of illegal immigrants, without rewarding them for breaking our laws.
        Regarding the issue of the so-called “anchor babies”, I believe that’s a no brainer. The 14th Amendment is clear on that issue. Anyone born in the USA is an American citizen. Period. It does not matter if the parents entered the USA illegally or had babies in the USA to improve their chances of not being deported. Moreover, can you imagine what would happen if we decide to punish children for their parents crimes? What the right wing is proposing on this issue is sickening.
        Another important issue involving immigration reform is the need to ensure an adequate number of entry visas are issued to semi-skilled workers to satisfy demand.

    • ObozoMustGo says:

      Dom…. EUREKA!!!!!!!! We have finally reached complete agreement. Maybe you’re not such a bad guy after all. 🙂 You are right. What the heck else can we do? We can’t just reward them for breaking the laws and we cannot give them advantages over those who have come here legally and are working the process under the law. And we can’t put them on buses and “send back them” (to quote the Mexican president). I must say that it does seem to be a fair compromise.

      Have a great day, Dom!

      “Societies biggest failure is it has allowed authority to be its truth; and prevented truth from being its authority.” — Mobius Nemesis

  2. ObozoMustGo says:

    And now…. the REAL Cartoon of the Day!

    Obozo’s preferred method of border control

    [click image to enlarge]

    Have a nice day!

    “The problem of the distribution of the power of a society, so as to be most favorable to liberty, cannot be solved so long as too much power is given to a single man.” – Charles de Montesquieu, “Spirit of Laws”, Book XI

  3. donbronkema1 says:


    Wouldn’t that just demoralize them & delay the inevitable?…at any event, it seems to respondent we should either

    –accelerate intake of sci-tek talent [at risk of aggravating Global South brain-drain]
    -encourage teaching of cosmogony, quantum physics & evolution in public schools

    The main obstacles are under-funding & the inerasible anti-intellectualism of the Holy Hinterlands, wouldn’t you say?

    Of course, a larger population suggests a Nat’l Land-Use Planning Act to curtail ecosystem plunder.

  4. sleepvark says:

    Being a gemini, I am somewhat split on this issue. The white part says what’s the big deal anyway, we are all descendants of illegal immigrants, and the Cherokee part says why didn’t we fix our borders 500 years ago. The hubris of the whites here now claiming some sort of legitimacy in their efforts to exclude others. It’s laughable. So much illogical fear and concern about our neighbors to the south. Land of the brave? Yeah, right. How are these pusillanimous bigots going to react when a real threat to their security comes along, and they find themselves without friends elsewhere in the world?

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