Foolish. Places like Switzerland and Israel have proven that universal weapons ownership is always much safer than firearms restriction. Think about how many hundreds of thousands of schools there are in this country, and over life of this country, how few incidents there have ever been. The cycle for any one school is an incident about every 10,000 years. And for this we need new laws? I don’t think so. This is a very old problem. There will always be crimes at schools. And in the past, what teachers and staff did was to quietly ensure someone was armed, in order to provide faster response. These proposed laws won’t do that. They won’t help schools be safer at all. And they won’t reduce the weapons availability to those intent on doing harm. It is always going to be easy to find high tech ways of causing harm. We live in such a high tech society, violence is impossible to restrict. The best you can do is provide defensive weapons.

Baron
This is simple deduction for us and the majority of the world. But, in Congress this same logical thought would become as complicated as Einstein’s E=MC2 .

This problem could be rectified if only we could keep Congress out of the solution process.

Obviously, too much Faux News:

That’s easy.

1.” The confiscation of bondholders assets at GM and Chrysler.” Unfortunately, that is how a banruptcy works. Obviously, you were not paying attention during the Savings and Loan Crisis of the 80s, in which the Fed did the same thing with Pioneer, and its creditors and mortgage holders.

2) “Not enforcing US laws from DOMA”. The Administration has made the determination that Act is unconstitutional.

3) _ Not enforcing drug laws” Be specific, provide examples on this, as well as election intimidation. The only election intimidation most of us saw was that of the Right Wingers with their signs threatening jail for immigrants who became citizens and dared consider actually voting, Certain Red States activities in voter suppression, Voter ID laws, and of course Florida with its cutting of early voting days resulting in 8 hour waits in line to vote becasue of deliberately understaffed and equipped voting districts, with the obviously vain hope the Democrats would give up and go home.

4) “Imprisoning americans indefinitely with out charges”. Seems to me GWB II was the one who implemented the term “enemy combatant” which triggered the imprisonment without charge. Thank GWB II’s “Patriot Act” for that one, along with “surveillance of emails and electronic communications without a subpoena” Your GOP gave the Executive that power during GWB II’s Administration, which is a tool left over from GWB II’s failed Adminsitration.

5)” Misappropriation of federal funds from green energy projects in foreign countries to rebuilding mosques” Bring on the Federal Charges, where is the Radical Right when you need them. Sounds like a major crime the GOP is turning a blind eye to. How about some documentation?

6) ” If your worried about gerrymandering than you should be requesting a redo of all the black and Hispanic districts.” You have ignored the many dog boned districts created by your GOP legislatures, which at one time were clearly illegal, and discussed at length in High School Civics Classes. Examples please?

7) ” you also are discounting all the illegals and dead that voted in 2012. In Philly and Chicago as an example they had hundreds of counties that had MORE votes than people who were registered or lived there” Proof please. So why hasn’t the GOP’s Big Money Donors bellied up to the bar to file voter fraud cases in those counties?
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8) “Is it strange that 1 rifle has shown up at a few mass murders?? Isn’t it strange that planned parenthood who receives tax payers $$ is allowed to murder 500,000 babies a year would be a much more important question.?” Typical Republican tactic when you have no answer. Instead, you have attempted to change the subject, as the Bushmaster is the weapon of choice.

9) As far as Planned Parenthood, you are really off base. Planned Parenthood does not generally do Abortions, but is in most cases a referral service. The few exceptions have been to save the life of the mother. Typical Right Wing claim. As it is, many of us would be much more impressed with your passion to save lives, if you and other antiabortion activists would seek to create and fund a nationwide fund for the support, medical care, and education of all children who are born to a woman who is forced to bear the child which you believe they should be forced to have by outlawing all abortions. Put your money where your mouth is. Demand your GOP Legislators create a Federal and State Fund, paid for by taxes and contributions to support all unwanted children which you require to be born, yet you do not want to assume the responsiblity of supporting thought “entitlements” While you are at it, why not seek to require sex education, and contraceptives to be available to all citizens, which would be much cheaper than the continued funding of aid to dependent children.
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10) Should there be a outlawing of assault weapons?? “All the polls show that the vast majority of the American voters are opposed to such a measure. they seem to understand the 2nd amendment much better than the left wing nuts” Actually, is is not a “vast majority”, but about 56%. But then if that is a vast majority to you, then Obama won with a “Vast Majority”. As it is, most of us “Left Wing Nuts” understand that Constitutional Rights have reasonable limits. American’s don’t need assault weapons and 30 round clips to protect their homes, just as they do not have the right to stand up in a crowed theater and yell “Fire”, despite the existence of “Freedom of Speech” being protected under our Constitution.

That is foolish because schools have always had threats in the past, which have always been met by teachers and janitors being armed. Just kept quiet. In some schools I went to, teachers were armed just to prevent being robbed. The insanity is believing new repressive laws are going to actually end criminal possession of these weapons and magazines. The proposed legislation will not at all make schools any safer. In fact, it will make is even more appealing for the disturbed to get their 15 minutes of fame with firearm crimes.

They only had a week to think it through.

The NRA’s position is protect by the constitution. Movies and video games aren’t

Tell me why would ending what the media calls assault rifles and large clips from the hands of legal gun owners who don’t abuse them or use them to commit crimes will have any effect upon criminal use of these guns? If you want gun control, make sure criminals don’t get them, or you accomplish nothing.

Taxing gun ownership is NOT unconstitutional, and would be a simple way to bring owners and manufacturers to the discussion. The costs to our society of gun violence is staggering, not just in immediate, visible results, but in the ultimate loss of potential for those who are killed. Maybe a drug dealer may not make a valuable contribution (although one cannot say even that with certainty), but the loss of 20 third graders in Newtown, CT is a shameful waste of potential. Those kids could have become doctors, teachers, Nobelists, parents, anything they could have wished for, and now they will be nothing except memories, shared only by those few who knew them.

Weapons have always been the only way to create safety. Before there were easy weapons, it was just the big, strong, and brutal who got their way with everyone. It is firearms that protect the night duty nurses, prevents rapes, stops LA looting, etc. Weapons are the equalizer for us all. Reducing weapons only makes us more vulnerable to those who already are intent on violence, and they either don’t need weapons, can steal or smuggle them, or can make their own. In a high tech society, it is impossible to prevent anyone from making sufficient weapons to cause mass murder. The best we can try to do is defend ourselves sufficiently. And it is only the threat of defensive weapons that prevent crimes.

Thank you. I remember that now that you’ve reminded me. early onn during the primaries, was it not? Siccum’ Joe !! Yeah, sure.

Nancy, perhaps that is because they now ADVERTISE where the guns ARE NOT. The “Gun Free Zones”. Some (schools) are so by mandate w/i the law and others,
like the movie theater in Aurora, by required signage in the front of the business.

They are supposed to be NOW, and were supposed to have been years and years ago, all the way back to the beginning of the BG check. Their doctors hide behind the doctor/patient cloud, so the mentally impaired don’t get put on the No Buy with the NCIC. Let me pose a question here; Regarding the Ex-Marine released yesterday from the Mexican jail – should he be allowed to carry any firearm in the USA at this time or when we was arrested in Mexico? Also, when thinking it through, was/is the firearm he was arrested with an antique firearm by definiton within our existing gunlaws as was/is being reported by the media? I do know he was a combat veteran Marine (as am I), but does this give him any extra rights over all other US citizens? No, it does not. The other two questions are serious and need answered. (for those unfamiliar, antique firearms by definition of “antique” within the statues are exempt from the Gun Control Act, as are
“primitive arms”, i.e.black powder guns)

I like this article. It makes sense. Are you sure you are on the right forum?

Really?

Have you personally contacted your elected Politicians from the State in which you reside. You can broach this to them in person or by email or a personal letter. “Our Politician…” indicates this is the desire of all 635 + elected officials in Washington. Have you checked this with all of them? Is this statement your personal opinion or is it truth backed by documentation? If it is truth with documentation then you may want to share the source with the rest of us on the forum.

Criminals are always going to find avenues for purchasing what they need. The psychos and weirdos are always going to find some means to wreak their havoc even if they have to break in and steal a weapon.
A total gun ban is impractical and given the millions of guns in the private sector it would be an almost impossible endeavor both physically and legally.

I agree with a lot of your statements – it delves around control of purchase practices.
Hopefully our Congress will use some of these common sense approaches to rectifying this situation rather than yielding to knee-jerk reactions.
This is a good post.

Note that you are from Georgia and you are a friend of Eyma Lyer. That figures. You sound like two peas from the same pod.

I agree that this could be a slipery slope. I know a lot of cops most of them are good but a significant like to abuse power. I would say a data base for violent offenders would be good.