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Monday, September 26, 2016

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — To reach the Convention Center, you must first walk the gauntlet of dead baby parts.

It’s one of the newer and more gruesome tactics in the fight over reproductive choice, protesters hoisting large color placards depicting aborted fetuses torn in chunks as a group of men preaches an unending sermon on the evils of abortion. As rhetorical tactics go, it is a bludgeon.

The street preachers have other things on their minds, too: Muslims are bad, homosexuals are worse, and if you vote Democrat, you’re going to hell in the fast lane. Also, if you don’t believe as they do, then you don’t know Jesus like they know Jesus.

But always, they return to the medical procedure they deem child murder.

Most people walking to various functions in the Democratic National Convention ignore them. Some don’t. “They better not have that same d–n picture,” growls one man as he approaches the corner. He is shepherding a small child. Another man can’t resist yelling the obvious when the preacher starts extolling the Christian virtue of the Founding Fathers, i.e., that those virtuous Christians trafficked in human beings. I don’t see this myself, but one guy tells me he saw two guys salute the preachers by sharing an ostentatious kiss.

Late in the afternoon, it begins to rain hard. The preachers preach on as people rush by, seeking shelter from the wet. It makes for a bizarre, yet appropriate sideshow to an opening day the Democrats devote largely to women’s issues.

Though speakers address other matters — gay rights, military families, education — the overriding theme of the evening is that President Obama and the Democratic Party stand on the right side in the so-called “War on Women.” At one point, female representatives and candidates even take the podium in a group, their very presence and numbers making a statement. That statement is, Look at us, we’re women.

More substantively, Stacey Lihn, mother of a little girl with a congenital heart defect, says in a short speech that she fights for the president because he fought for her family. His health care reform enables her daughter to get the care she needs even if it costs more than the lifetime cap on expenses their insurance company once imposed.

  • dtgraham

    Those miserable Republican f—— had a deep security zone around the Tampa Convention Center that no protester could even get close to. There’s an admirable quality in the Dems for not doing the same, but this is the result. Politics have gotten so partisan, viscous, and twisted that they might have revisited that decision. There’s little civility left and there’s the potential for violence. Yes, I see the irony of using f—— and civility in the same paragraph, but that party has a way of bringing out the worst in a person.

    Today, all they have is God and Jerusalem after that knock ’em out summation by Clinton. That was the whole 3 hour Fixed and Friends this morning—–where’s God and Jerusalem?

    Did it ever occur to them that there are nations that have God in every second sentence of their constitution and non stop references to God in every aspect and sphere of public life. Why, they even base virtually all of their laws on the laws of God. Those are fundamentalist nations in the middle east who do such wonderful things as: bringing to life the old testament rule of stoning a woman to death for sex outside of marriage, and killing those who choose a different faith. I don’t think Veronica and the two jugheads on Fixed and Friends would want to live in any of those countries.

    Maybe, just maybe, the best way might be to remove the state apparatus completely from matters of faith (including political parties) and give individual citizens the constitutionally guaranteed right to practice spirituality, or totally abstain from it, in any way that they see fit as free people. I’d claim that as a great idea of mine but I think the writers of the United States constitution beat me to it.

    • It’s actually a good policy.

      Repulsivecans are so damned exclusive and radical they can’t tolerate the protestors getting close, lest some smart@$$ kid point and mention the emperor has no clothes on.

      Democrats, on the other hand, get to see Gibberish Outpouring Politics at their most disgusting–then come in and get a load of rationality.

      The result is simple; rationality must trump faith, lest you be too stupid to come in out of the rain before you get drenched or drowned.

      • dtgraham

        Amen my son.

    • johninPCFL

      Interesting point this morning – why is Jerusalem not mentioned at all in the GOP platform? All this grief from the party that doesn’t even support the policy they yell about?

      • ObozoMustGo

        john… it’s not mentioned in the platform for the same reason that the sky being blue is not mentioned in it…. the Repub support for Israel is and has always been and will always be unequivocal just like the sky will always be blue.

        But after 4 years of Isreal bashing by Obozo, and a regime policy of not admitting that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem, if wants any Jews to vote for him, he will have it in the platform. In other words, the matter is actually in question in the DemoncRAT party.

        Have a nice day!

        “Fathom the hypocrisy of a political party that has a convention focused on abortion, contraception, and so-called women’s rights, AND has as their big speaker and hero an admitted sexual harasser and accused rapist that was impeached for lying in a court of law about it.” – ObozoMustGo

        • johninPCFL

          Ah bullshit. If it isn’t in the platform, it isn’t part of the program.

          Reminding Israel that they’d agreed to stop building on conquered land is not bashing.

          He wasn’t impeached for lying in court, Bozo. He was impeached for lying during a deposition. Why do you have to lie so much?

          • ObozoMustGo

            john… Obozo has been the first American president that is openly hostile to Israel and openly kisses the butts of those who seek Israel’s demise. Until the platform battle and DemoncRATS booing God and Israel, the official policy of the Obozo regime was to NOT admit that Jerusalem was the capital of Israel. Don’t be such a useful idiot, look for your self. Go to YouTube and search on this term: “Jerusalem Not The Capital Of Israel!!! What!?” and you will find one of the thugs in the regime refusing to answer the question about the capitol of Israel. This was only 3 months ago.

            Drawing a distinction between court and depositions that become facts of court cases is unduly splitting hairs and you know it. Lying in a deposition IS considered lying before a court of law because of this. It’s why you take an oath before giving testimony, and you know it. Don’t be such a useful idiot.

            Have a nice day!

            “It depends upon what your definition of the word “is” is.” – Slick Willie Clinton

          • johninPCFL

            Ah, bullshit. His “hostility” to Israel is insisting that they live up to the treaties they’ve signed, like not building on occupied land. Most Israelis know this, which is why Obama’s popularity in Israel is higher than GWB’s.

            “When he visited Israel as a candidate he saw firsthand how vulnerable Israeli villagers were to rocket attacks from Gaza. As president, he responded by providing full financing and technical assistance for Israel’s Iron Dome short-range anti-rocket defense system, which is now protecting those villagers. In July, he provided an additional $70 million to extend the Iron Dome system across southern Israel. That’s in addition to the $3 billion in annual military assistance to Israel that the president requests and that Congress routinely approves, assistance for which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has expressed deep personal appreciation.

            When the first President Bush had disagreements with Israel over its settlement policy, he threatened to withhold loan guarantees from Israel. Mr. Obama has had his own disagreements with Mr. Netanyahu over the settlers but has never taken such a step. To the contrary, he has increased aid to Israel and given it access to the most advanced military equipment, including the latest fighter aircraft.

            Ask any senior Israeli official involved in national security, and he will tell you that the strategic relationship between the United States and Israel has never been stronger than under President Obama. “I can hardly remember a better period of American support and backing, and Israeli cooperation and similar strategic understanding of events around us,” the defense minister, Ehud Barak, said last year, “than what we have right now.”

            That cooperation has included close coordination by intelligence agencies — including the deployment of cyberweapons, as recent news reports have revealed — to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions. ”

            The capital of Israel is wherever Israel and the Palestinians decide it is. You have no say in the matter, nor does the president.

            You said “lied in court” not me. Lying in a deposition is not the same, and you know it. Don’t be such a worhtless idiot.

          • ObozoMustGo

            John… you are a brainwashed moron if you think that Obozo has been good to Israel, plain and simple. And a positive public quote from an Israeli official is of no value… what the hell do you think he would say publicly? Of course he’s going to say nice things, but the reality is quite different. Witness these items below, and this is just scratching the surface:

            – Obozo completely blows off Netanyahu in the White House leaving the Israeli entourage waiting for hours while he goofed off and then ate a private dinner, a complete slap in the face to a visiting leader from a close ally. Contrast the treatment of Netanyahu to the the first class treatment of the Muslim Brotherhood leader Morsi who is now president of Egypt.

            – Obozo tells Israel to go back to the 1967 borders, a concept of which is absolutely NEVER going to happen because doing so would split Jerusalem and grant strategic military advantage to those who wish to anhialate Israel.

            – Israel Today, warns that the historic alliance between the U.S. and its principal ally in the Middle East has cooled since the advent of the Obama administration, which seems to overlook Israel’s precarious position in an area where it is all but surrounded by enemies dedicated to its utter destruction.

            – Israel Today reports that a former top official in the U.S. intelligence community, speaking on condition of anonymity, is convinced “that the Obama administration is about to break America’s long ties of friendship with Israel, and maybe even take steps toward the dissolution of the Jewish State.”

            – During the campaign, it was widely suspected that Obozo had strong ties with pro-Palestinian groups, not to mention his membership in the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s church — one that is known for its sympathy for the causes of certain terrorist organizations and the Palestinian position.

            – The Los Angeles Times reportedly possessed and protected a damning video of Obozo toasting Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO operative and an outspoken Israel critic who, after the 9/11 attacks, referred to the media’s “hysteria about suicide bombers.”

            – Obozo’s official campaign website, Organizing for America, posted a blog entry titled “How the Jewish Lobby Works” with strong anti-Semitic views. The post said: “No lobby is feared more or catered to by politicians than the Jewish Lobby. If a politician does not play ball with the Jewish Lobby, he will not get elected, or re-elected, and he will either be smeared or ignored by the Jewish-owned major media.” NewsBusters cited numerous other links to similar anti-Jewish posts on the website, showing this was not an isolated event. How does one explain away that kind of climate in the bowels of the administration?

            – Once elected, Obozo appointed James Jones as his national security adviser, a man The Lid said is “not known as a friend of the Jewish State.” Jones assembled a team that reportedly intended to be tougher and “impose a solution on” Israel.

            – Early in his term, Obozo pledged more than $900 million to rebuild Gaza and to shore up the Palestinian Authority. The rationale was to strengthen Palestinian moderates, but many experts warned that much of this money could get into the hands of Hamas and other terrorist organizations.

            – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gratuitously denounced Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in Gaza while ignoring the many Palestinian sins against Israel. The administration also demanded that Israel negotiate with Syria — a primary sponsor of Hezbollah — just two days after Syrian foreign minister Walid Mueller praised a speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calling Israel “the most cruel and repressive racist regime.”

            – The regime has also applied fierce pressure on Israel to agree on the creation of a Palestinian state, even to the point of conditioning our efforts to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions on that Israeli concession.

            – Obozo directed our return to the U.N. Human Rights Council, which the Bush administration had left nine months before because the council had incessantly condemned Israel while ignoring the abuses of Mideast dictatorships.

            – Obozo snubbed Netanyahu and announced he would discontinue the established practice of hosting Israeli prime ministers when they are in Washington.

            – Obozo’s Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, adopted the controversial 2002 Arab Peace Initiative, which called for Israel to withdraw from east Jerusalem, the entire West Bank and Golan Heights and also for Israel to accept the influx of millions of foreign Arabs as Israeli citizens as part of the “right of return.” Mideast expert Caroline Glick says this would mean “Israel would effectively cease to be a Jewish state.”

            – VP BiteMe engaged in a public temper tantrum and harshly “condemned” Israel for not bowing to the administration’s demands that it discontinue its settlements in east Jerusalem. Rarely does the United States publicly condemn an ally, especially in such harsh terms.

            – Former New York Mayor Ed Koch wrote two scathing editorials against Obozo’s appalling policies and called out his fellow Jews to speak up against them. Stalwart Obozo supporter Sen. Chuck Schumer finally joined Koch in pushing back.

            How much more do you need? Only an idiot believes what Obozo says while ignoring what he does. Suppose that makes you the idiot, now doesn’t it?

            Have a nice day!

            “The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

          • johninPCFL

            Your opinions do not quite square with the facts.

            The 1967 borders were called out as a starting point for the negotiations. The same way they’ve been called out as starting points for negotiations by every president since Jimmy Carter, including Saint Reagan (the great Debt Borrower).

            The principal ally in the Middle East has undergone a revoluton and no longer exists. It seems that Israel should have moved a bit quicker.

            “top official”? There’s a bridge for sale in the vicinity of NYC. Interested? The “top official” is selling that too.

            “widely suspected”? By the same “top official”?

            “reportedly possessed”? The video was taken by the “top official”, so it HAS to exist. As soon as we can create some “interwebs” everybody will be able to see it, possibly on You Boob.

            a blog entry? The same entry was posted on McCains site, probably by the top official”, maybe by Todd Palin.

            I’m pretty sure no one will be “imposing a solution on” Israel. Bush Sr tried that early in his term (GHWB:negotiate or I’ll cut off aid!), and it didn’t work. Israel charts her own course.

            “many experts warned”? I see the “top official” is still busy.

            “applied fierce pressure”? Yes, applied pressure for Israel to negtiate a solution and quit sucking $billions from us to support their intransigence. The “fierce” part was made up by the “top official”.

            Wow, being part of the human rights council is tragic. Is our representative there the “top official”?

            got anything from an independent source on this mysterious “discontinue hosting” announcement? I note that the rumor first surfaced just ahead of the midterms in 2010 from Limbaugh (no relation to the blowhard, I’m sure) and then goes quiet, only to re-surface just now when such an “announcement” would be embarassing. Perhaps it was communicated quietly to the “top official” for re-broadcast when necessary?

            Mitchell’s been gone for over a year, driven off by Israeli intransigence. Was he replace by the “top official”?

            So, what you have is some made-up statements by imaginary people feeding your rage. The is a medical diagnosis possible from this set of facts:
            “Schizophrenia (/ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a breakdown of thought processes and by poor emotional responsiveness.[1] It most commonly manifests itself as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking, and it is accompanied by significant social or occupational dysfunction. ”

            Maybe it’s time to get back on your meds.

          • ObozoMustGo

            I knew you would have no real response to the facts that I posted regarding Obozo’s disgusting treatment of our ally, Israel. Face it, john, Obozo cowtows to the muzzies and disresptects Israel. The facts stand on their own, regardless if you don’t like them or not.

            Have a nice day!

            “Don’t let schooling interfere with your education.” – Mark Twain

          • johninPCFL

            I responded to the one fact you presented, stating that Israel should abide by the treaty they signed. The rest of the nonsense you presented (blogs, opinions, made up bullshit) was dealt with appropriately.

            Take your meds. Rush and Beck are still on the radio, and you can still hear them every day. Their “facts” are imainary, but their opinoins and voices are real.

          • ObozoMustGo

            john… you are a fool!

            Are you saying that Obozo did not tell Israel to go back to the indefensible borders of 1967?

            Are you saying that Obozo did not blow off Netanyahu and force him to wait in a side room in the WH while he ate a private dinner?

            Are you aware that Netanyahu just requested a meeting with Obozo and Obozo has blown him off? This happened yesterday. Obozo told him he was too busy to meet with a world leader during a crises, yet he did have time to go on Letterman.

            Are you aware that the Muslim Brotherhood, who Obozo has invited their leader from Egypt into the WH and will roll out the red carpet, has taken over the embassy in Libya and killed our embassador and 3 other Americans? These are the people that Obozo helped kill Khadafi.

            What the hell is wrong with you if you do not see these truths? I know the answer… you are just another useful idiot in the long line of fools that worship Obozo. Sad…

            Have a nice day!

            “The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

          • johninPCFL

            God, you are a sad moronic idiot.

            Israel has signed treaties stating that the 1967 borders are the STARTING point for future negotiations. Shall they just tear up any treaties they please? Is that OK with you, idiot? Do you understand what a STARTING POINT is? Do you have access to a dictionary? Oh, my bad. Can you get a book-o-words?

            Yes, Netanyahu was dissed. He’ll get over it. At least Obama didn’t threaten to cut off all Israeli aid, like Bush did.

            Yes, a Jewish filmmaker has released a film that insults Islam and they’ve reacted, killing four Americans. I think the imeline was: invite Egyptians…film released…Egyptians react… right? So it wasn’t that the president invited folks who had killed Americans, the invitation went out then the killing happened, right? So the president can cancel the invitation.

            Of course, if he does, you’ll be blaming him for some other half-baked bag of bullshit. It is, after all, what you do.

    • dljones

      What a rant. Welcome to the DNC, home of the guppies. Praise God I have a choice.

      • dtgraham

        No dl, God has nothing to do with it. You have a choice because of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Sam Adams, etc… You could live in a more God driven society if you want, but then you wouldn’t have a choice.

        • dljones

          dtgraham:: And who gave these gentlemen freedom to choose and defend?

          Have a nice drive in your left wing cloud.

          • dtgraham

            They gave themselves that freedom by the power of their own human reason and intellect.

    • onedonewong

      After multiple fact checks Clinton’s speech had more holes than a swiss cheese

      • dtgraham

        For some reason the Memo wouldn’t let me post this and I’m trying for the third time. Fact checkers around the country had Clinton’s DNC speech rated the most accurate with one notable exception on health care costs. It’s from the BBC website.

      • dtgraham

        For some reason the Memo will not let me post this and this is the fourth attempt. I just wanted to say that the BBC website had Clinton’s DNC speech rated the most accurate, from legitimate fact check groups throughout the U.S.

        • onedonewong

          Sorry even the WashPost had him with 5 outright lies and the Post never has printed anything negative about Clinton or Barak

          • dtgraham

            I tried to respond to your WashPost claim, but the National Memo still won’t accept my replies to you. They must be afraid that I’m going to hurt your feelings or something. You’re wrong about that, but I’m not going into it anymore.

          • onedonewong

            More than likely your response was so dummb that even the Memo has some standards

  • ObozoMustGo

    Now you leftist freaks can explain why you vote for Democrats. You can pick your reasons from this “TOP 12″…

    1. I voted Democrat because I believe Oil companies’ profits of 4% on a Gallon of gas are obscene, but the Government taxing the same gallon of Gas at 15% isn’t.

    2. I voted Democrat because I believe The government will do a better job of Spending the money I earn than I Would.

    3. I voted Democrat because Freedom of Speech is fine as long as nobody is Offended by it, and I agree with it.

    4. I voted Democrat because I’m way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I Know that my local police are all I Need to protect me from murderers and Thieves.

    5. I voted Democrat because I believe That people who can’t tell us if it Will rain on Friday can tell us that The polar ice caps will melt away in Ten years if I don’t start driving a Prius.

    6. I voted Democrat because I’m not Concerned about millions of babies Being aborted so long as we keep all Death row inmates alive.

    7. I voted Democrat because I think Illegal aliens have a right to free Health care, education, and Social Security benefits.

    8. I voted Democrat because I believe That business should not be allowed to Make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away To the government for redistribution As the Democrats see fit.

    9. I voted Democrat because I believe Liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit Some fringe kooks who would never get Their agendas past the voters.

    10. I voted Democrat because I think That it’s better to pay billions to People who hate us for their oil, but Not drill our own because it might Upset some endangered beetle or
    Gopher.

    11. I voted Democrat because while we Live in the greatest, most wonderful Country in the world, I was promised “HOPE AND CHANGE”.

    12. I voted Democrat because my head Is so firmly planted up my ass, it’s Unlikely that I’ll ever have another Point of view.

    So there you have it, you leftist freaks and Obozo zombies. Now you have coherent reasons to say why you are voting for DemoncRATS.

    Hey, I’m here to help. Have a nice day!

    “The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

    • dtgraham

      That was Mark Twain, Obozo.

      “An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows.”
      – Dwight Eisenhower

      • ObozoMustGo

        dt… hehehehehehehehehehe… you crack me up you crazy socialist.

        Gotta run… hockey away all weekend with my son.

        Have a great weekend!

        “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan

        • dtgraham

          “I believe that in every country the people themselves are more peaceably and liberally inclined than their governments.”
          – Franklin Roosevelt

          Have fun with your son. Remember, ambidextrous wristshots.

          • ObozoMustGo

            dt… it is a proven fact that what FDR mostly believed in was socialism, and therefore most of what he said is complete bunk, including any of this kind of meaningless claptrap.

            Have a nice day!

            “Rule of thumb… never trust what comes from the mouth of a socialist politician. They are only lying so they can spend other people’s money to build up their own power.” – ObozoMustGo

      • ralphkr

        As usual, OBOZO, you only hear part of the story. That 4% a gallon profit for oil companies not true for the company but is bit more than the local gas station is getting. Back when I was selling gas for a little over forty cents gallon my markup was 3 cents. I was just going over reports that two companies sent me (both companies pump the oil out of the ground, where the real profit comes from, and then refine it and they both report over $1.20 per gallon of gasoline profit by the time they pump the gasoline into the distributors tanker). Did you know that in the US gasoline has become a byproduct because diesel is where the demand is?

    • I vote for the Democrats because I have a brain and don’t just parrot hate.

  • onedonewong

    Why would anyone be upset by the photographs??? Its what the party stands for

    • johninPCFL

      Safe, legal, and rare.

      However, maybe at the GOP convention they should have had the streets lined with photos of dead US soldiers, the direct result of the GOP’s love-fest with war.

      Oh, yeah, at the GOP convention we saw more of GWBs “free speech zones”, i.e. a one-mile wide buffer zone to keep the teabaggers from actually seeing US citizens.

      • onedonewong

        Safe??? more than 300 women loose their lives every year thru planned parenthood’s botched operations not to mention the babies that receive a DNR where the baby is cut to pieces and removed.. Legal less and less hopefully.
        Rare??? 1,000,000 every year, maybe your talking about when cannibals like you eat them.
        They should have had the streets lined with dead and mutilated soldiers seeing as how our troops have suffered record casualties every year Barak’s rules of engagement have been in place where he values Mooooslim lives more than our troops.
        As for free speech zones where was code pink, occupy etc. The only people allowed in communists, socialists and anarchists

        • johninPCFL

          Interesting. Thats the same number per year as in the 1930s when abortions were illegal. Of course, the number you quote still includes stillbirths, miscarriages, etc. just like it always has.

          So given that the rate doesn’t change whether abortion is legal or not, what’s your recommendation for the sentence for the mother? Life in prison? Drink during pregnancy and have a miscarriage, life in prison? Have an at-fault car crash resulting in a miscarriage, life in prison?

          300 women per year lose (not “loose”, moron) their life during an abortion? And yet the GOP claims that 25,000 rape pregnancies per year is nothing. Maybe you guys should wander off and huddle up to get your idiot stories in line.

          Yeah, but bringing the troops home instead of abandoning them in Afghanistan and Iraq like GWB and Rummy shows that he values them more than the lying warmongers ever did.

          Commies and anarchists, huh? I guess that explains how Fox got in.

          • onedonewong

            Sorry it wasn’t until after 1973 that abortions grew exponentially and have stayed at that 1,000,000 mark. The abortion rate in the 30’s was less than 100,000.
            An INFOREMED decision should be required as well explaining the alternatives, rather than radical lefts have for children.
            Who commits the preponderance of rapes?? ahhh the left wing nuts who believe that women are their for their and the states pleasure, we all belong to the govt you know.
            Bringing the troops home?? You mean in body bags since barak values moooslims more than American troops and he’s shown that time after time..
            Look it isn’t me that’s a card carrying socialist who’s view of a great govt is Germany’s in the 30’s and 40’s. its not the republicans that passed a law that allows Holder and Barak to arrest any American in this country with out cause and hold them indefinitely that’s your great libertarian and Messiah BARAK Obama hmmm hmm hmmm

          • johninPCFL

            Check your facts at the door? How about “Abortions continued to occur, however, and increasingly became readily available. In the 1930s, licensed physicians performed an estimate 800,000 abortions a year. ” Boyer, Ed. by Paul S. (2006). The Oxford companion to United States history. Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press. pp. 3. ISBN 978-0-19-508209-8

            Alternatives are explained in high school. Only home-schooled idiots like you have missed the discussion.

            So, since the rapes were by left-wingers then the mothers shall be forced to bear the children? Do you actually even think of what you’re proposing as policy? Or is it just the bourbon talking? How about the other consequences? In the name of “family values” do you give the rapist father visitation? If the mother dies, is the rapist the next of kin?

            Yeah, Obama goes to the bases and the funerals. GWB famously went to neither. The GOP can’t even talk about the wars today because of the blood on their hands. What happened to even a mention at the convention? Too much shame to even talk about their stupidity.

            Sorry, idiot, the patriot act was passed by a GOP Congress and signed by GWB. Maybe crack a book or two. You’ll learn something. Oh yeah, You’re GOP. Facts just don’t interest you.

          • onedonewong

            What utter BLATHER…abortions were illegal in the 1930’s and NO data was even being gathered. Typical post from the left wing looons
            Explained in schools?? No all that they discuss is rubbers nothing else. There are no video’s or pictures of aborted babies and their dismemberment during an abortion. Why??? because it would eliminate the entire “choice” argue for what it is MURDER.

            So when did murder become a family value?? I never alluded to the few instances of rape and forcing the mother to term. While I hate the thought of the unborn being put to death it would be the exception to the rule.
            Barak goes to the bases and funerals?? Maybe the mooooslim funerals he’s never been to any US serviceman’s funeral EVER…Does he go to the bases yep ,, he only goes hoping for votes and not to defend his rules of engagement. I readed all the Dem speeches at their convention and the trooops, casualties, rules of engagement and ending them didn’t come up. The only reason is the total number of casualties that have happened under barak in 3 years VS W’s in 6. As a matter of fact the only thing barak could say about the wars and casualties is “we’re number one” we’re number one”.
            Once again another ill read comatose lib tries to argue. Sorry your coming to a gun fight with a stick. The law I’m talking about was passed by a Dem congress in 2010 for the socialist. He demanded parity with Hitler

          • johninPCFL

            Yeah, except I gave you a book reference, and you gave me back your opinion, which is worth nothing.

            Abortion is explained, whether your opinion is different or not. Once again, no facts, just worthless opinion.

            If you outlaw abortion, then the rate defaults back to that when it was illegal before, about a million per year. So I guess your plan is to build more jails and toss a million women a year into jail?

            WTF are you TALKING about? Ending the Iraq war was talked about by 2/3 of the speakers, and ending Afghanistan was talked about by the president himself. Maybe you had shit in your ears?

            How much daily effort do you put into staying stupid? Or maybe it’s genetic?

          • onedonewong

            My reference was from the Holy Koran as Mohammed wrote it and its just as accurate as da bok ref

          • johninPCFL

            So the Holy Quran describes and discusses abortion? Seems odd. Maybe you could quote us chapter/verse (or whatever the proper terminology is)?

          • onedonewong

            Its in the chapter about eating pork and suicide bombings Barak refers to it all the time when he meets with his moooslim brothers

          • johninPCFL

            So, nothing then except what you’ve read that somebody heard about something that somebody else’s brother’s uncle thought about a hate-blog that might exist?

            Righty-roo.

          • onedonewong

            I take it you’ve never read the Crayon, well barak has mandate that all school children have to memorize it

          • johninPCFL

            The president doesn’t mandate school curricula. So, once again, no facts at all.

            Just more bullcrap.

          • onedonewong

            Really time you wake up the Sec of Education has mandated all kind of nonsense

          • johninPCFL

            Yeah, the sec of ed mandates readings in the Quran? Or mandates that school districts buy Obama’s book? Sure he does.

            Take your meds blinky.

          • onedonewong

            Duncan has mandated multiple moooslim standards for the schools. the State dept has bought Thousands of copies of barak’s book and has spent over $5 Billion on madrassas in the middles east. Barak and Holder believe in the separation of Church and state UNLESSS it comes to Moooslims. Then there is no separation

          • johninPCFL

            What standards? Where are the books? Got a link to spending on madrassas?

          • onedonewong

            The articles about state dept spending on Madrassas and Mosques are available from most daily papers. If you need help and that ill read try google

          • johninPCFL

            Found a ton of articles about the latest Muslim Congressman but nothing about the state department funding madrassas. Did find an article containing this: “Of the 75 terrorists we investigated, only nine had attended madrassas, and all of those played a role in one attack – the Bali bombing. Even in this instance, however, five college-educated “masterminds” – including two university lecturers – helped to shape the Bali plot. ”

            So, my guess is you’re reading “The Blaze” or “Fellowship of Minds” or some other far right-wing hate blog and they’ve conflated an entire aid package with a madrassas fund. Those idiots are as socially conservative as any group of ayatolas.

          • retiredforaliving

            They have rebuilt them in afganistan, Iraq, Indonesia, Egypt,

          • onedonewong

            Its in the chapter about eating pork and suicide bombings Barak refers to it all the time when he meets with his moooslim brothers

  • dtgraham

    National Memo: Don’t repost any of my “unapproved” comments. I’ve finally replied successfully to onedonewrong. Just wanted to give a few fact checking results. Why they weren’t approved is beyond me. There was no salty or abusive language.

    • ObozoMustGo

      dt… FYI… they do not post links in here. Your posts probably had links. Everyone gets blocked.

      • dtgraham

        No, there were no links.

        Gee Obozo, you kind of got owned there by johninPCFL on the Israel thing. Ya gotta admit.

  • There’s a reason the founding fathers believed in separation of church and state… Republicans make the case everytime they open their mouths, take a position on a social issue or try to
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