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Saturday, October 1, 2016

Vice President Joe Biden caused an uproar when he warned a crowd at  a campaign rally in Danville, VA, that Mitt Romney and big banks would “put y’all back in chains.”

“They’ve said it. Every Republican’s voted for it. Look at what they value, and look at their budget. And look what they’re proposing,” said Biden of Rep. Paul Ryan’s budget plan, whose author he will almost certainly be debating in the fall.

“[Romney] said in the first 100 days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules – unchain Wall Street,” Biden continued, blasting Romney’s proposed Wall Street reform. “They’re going to put y’all back in chains.”

Romney has said that he would repeal the Dodd-Frank Act — the financial reform legislation signed by President Obama, which is designed to prevent many of the risky practices that led to the 2008 meltdown.

The Romney campaign immediately and forcefully denounced Biden’s use of the word “chains” in a town with a 48 percent black population. Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul stated: “The comments made by the Vice President of the United States are not acceptable in our political discourse and demonstrate yet again that the Obama campaign will say and do anything to win this election.” Saul said Biden’s speech showed that the Obama campaign “has reached a new low.”

Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter responded in a statement of her own, saying:

For months, Speaker Boehner, Congressman Ryan, and other Republicans have called for the ‘unshackling’ of the private sector from regulations that protect Americans from risky financial deals and other reckless behavior that crashed our economy. Since then, the Vice President has often used a similar metaphor to describe the need to ‘unshackle’ the middle class. Today’s comments were a derivative of those remarks, describing the devastating impact that letting Wall Street write its own rules again would have on middle class families. We find the Romney campaign’s outrage over the Vice President’s comments today hypocritical, particularly in light of their own candidate’s stump speech questioning the President’s patriotism. Now let’s return to that ‘substantive’ debate Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan promised 72 hours ago, but quickly abandoned.

So much for a campaign about “big ideas.

Republicans may be outraged today, but Biden is not the first politician to speak of chains as a metaphor. As Sam Stein of The Huffington Post notes, Rick Santorum criticized the Obama administration last August by warning, “They will put you in chains called ‘Obamacare,’ and you will never break away.” Similarly, Tea Party favorite Allen West is known for frequently invoking slavery in his speeches, even saying that President Obama would “rather you be his slave.”

Although Republicans are now calling on Obama to condemn Biden’s comments, RNC Chair Reince Preibus refused to condemn West’s inflammatory remarks. He brushed the issue aside, merely saying that he’s not the “police officer” of the Republican party.

  • SchoolBoardMember

    The only GOP big idea is that the poor have too much and the rich do not have enough. They express it in many ways.

  • Otto Stuber

    Well VP biden has the chains stored at his house

  • Churchlady320

    It is apt – what ELSE would he call it? We are those who have been shut out of jobs, saddled with lying and falsified mortgage standards, payday loans and rising prices on food, gas (manipulated), and everything the “free market” can gouge us with. Yes indeed – chains. That’s the GOP goal for us ordinary folks. That’s NOT the race card – it’s the truth for us all.

    • ObozoMustGo

      uhhh… Churchlady…. what do you call generations of dependency on the government for everything a person can need in life: food, housing, electricity, healthcare, cell phones, incentives for fathers to leave their homes and abandon their children, 71% of new births are to single mothers, destruction of the black family etc. etc… I call it what Star Parker calls it: LIVING ON UNCLE SAM’S PLANTATION…. I think you need to revisit your definition of “in chains”. The worst enslavement is invisible and coerced, and even desired on the part of the slave. Too bad you cannot see how th DemoncRATS have bought the black vote with dependency all these years. Very sad. 🙁

      Have a nice day!

      “I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others.” – Abraham Lincoln

      • WhutHeSaid

        Hey, Bozo – Go tell that to Gabby Douglas, Oprah or President Obama and see what they think.

        • ObozoMustGo

          what… if they are DemoncRATS like Moochelle and Obozo, they like it to. Enslavement on Uncle Sam’s Plantation is the easy way to buy generational votes in monolithic block.

          And it’s not my term, look up “Star Parker, Uncle Sam’s Plantation”… read that.

          Have a nice day!

          “I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others.” – Abraham Lincoln

          • racist rat you are dispicable!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Mari… google “Star Parker Uncle Sams Plantation”….. read it and come back and tell me:

            1 – What color is she?
            2- What is it that she says that is wrong?

            The one who is the racist is the one who first judges on skin color. Clearly, that is you leftist freaks who see everything through the prism of race, not conservatives.

            One more question: You say I am a racist. Answer this: Who would I vote for, a white liberal or a black conservative? Come on… be honest… WHO???

            Have a nice day!

            “Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.” – Alexis de Tocqueville

          • And while you’re at it, knock off the “have a nice day” crap.

          • CPANY

            And another thing: Get rid of that Alexis de Tocqueville quote. Coming from you. I suspect that it’s untrue.

          • WhutHeSaid

            All 3 of these people are already more successful than you will ever be, and it’s because of progressive values that this is so. None of these achievers could have had this kind of success just a few short decades ago because of racism. I know it burns the Tea-Bigots like a hot poker, but that’s just the way it is.

            Welcome to your future. Please try not to squeal so loudly as your knuckle-dragging kind fades into the dustbin of history.

            Have a nice day.

          • Knock it off with the 4th grade worldplay on people’s names.
            Amazingly, it makes you look stupider than you are.

          • John Brady

            Illiterate, ignorant, prejudiced: you represent what is so repugnant about anything Republican these days, Obozo.
            You have no compassion for the poor, or understanding of the middle class. If you are of the one-percent who own most anything, you obviously inherited it, because you are too stupid — as many others have previously noted — to have earned it on your own. Go home until the election is over, and watch the Real Americans, i.e. Democrats, celebrate the re-election of a most deserving president.

          • I have never liked you, you pickup driving as$ Ho(e, but that woman does not have any thing to do with your BS, so show The Fisrt Lady of the United States of America the same respect that you would show your mother. If you can’t do that then just SHUT THE F…. UP! I have never seen so much disrepect come from one person.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Chucky… I consider your hatred of me a badge of honor! 🙂 And Moochelle is a MOOCH! Sucking off taxpayers for lavish vacations, buying $5,000 dresses, having a paid staff of 22 people to kiss her butt when no other First Lady ever had more than 2. Give me a break. She doesn’t respect you or real Americans that finance her profligacy and royal lifestyle. She deserves no respect.

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            Have a nice day!

            “By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt.” – James Madison

          • CPANY

            Obozomustgo:

            Another obscure quote? Can’t you think for yourself?

          • ObozoMustGo

            Obscure? Only to a moron that has no clue what the meaning of those liberties that were bestowed upon you by Madison and our other Founding Fathers. To you, their Constitution is a flawed document. You’d rather continue voting in tyranny in exchange for your liberties. Too bad. How the hell did you pass the CPA exam being as stupid as you are?

            Have a nice day!

            “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan

      • karinursula

        I’m not a generation depending on the government, neither are my children. I have worked for over 40 years in this country and just want to finish my life in
        peace. Romney and Ryan are not bringing me the peace, if though they said
        that the Ryan plan would not affect me, I don’t believe a word that these
        2 men are saying. I don’t know who you are, and maybe you don’t have to
        rely on SS but I do, that is what I worked for most of my life. My husband spend 23 years in the Air Force and died 1 year after Retirement, so yes
        I do depend on SS

        • ObozoMustGo

          Karin… If you think that Ryan’s plan cuts at your medicare or SS, you are dead wrong. You are believing the lefist propaganda. Go read the plan yourself. No one over 55 will see any difference. Read it yourself. Those under 55 will begin to be given choices. That’s all it is. DO NOT believe the lies.

          Further, did you know that Obozocare takes out $711 BILLION from Medicare? Did you know that? I’ll bet you did not. Because MSLSD and the rest of the leftist media DO NOT give a fair vetting of Obozo and what he says and does. Want proof?

          Go to YouTube and put this in the search: jake tapper interviews obama on medicare

          You will see Obozo right there telling you in his own words that this is the case. Why are you not afraid of Obozo? What is wrong with you? I am certain that you are a very nice women, Karin. But please, do not be so damned ignorant or a useful idiot for the left.

          Have a nice day!

          “Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.” – Alexis de Tocqueville

          • You are dead wrong like most other teabaggers. Firstly, those under 55 will be offered choices that the CBO has estimated could cost seniors up to $6400 a year more for Medicare. And the Ryan Budget would make Medicaid which pays the bills for the sickest, oldest and poorest Americans into a block grant program administered by the states. Bet Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, etc would do a great job with that. Now as to the $711 billion charge. This is a total misrepresentation because it only comes out of the Medicare budget because the Congressional Budget Office (which is non-partisan) estmates that Obamacare would save Medicare that much. You are trying to criticize President Obama because his affordable Healthcare Act saves Medicare $711 billion. Typical Teapublican lies and Fox News assures everyone thet it is the truth.

          • To Gerald and Karin and Churchlady,

            First point: “Teabaggers” is a truly derogatory and disrespectful term, it refers to a sexual act. We are member of the TEA party which stands for Taxed Enough Already. It has nothing to do with sex.

            Second point: Go ahead and believe the class warfare and race card politics the Democrats spout time after time. If you want to be dependant on the government (define that as tax paying citizens) go right ahead. If you’d like to get out of the welfare system and be independant take the plunge and vote for people who want to limit government and enable businesses to do business. That means creating jobs by the way. Is free enterprise perfect? No. Has socialism ever produced a thriving economy and welfare for all it’s citizens? No. Just look at what’s happening in Greece and Italy. Our country was founded on free enterprise and it served us well for many years. If we can’t agree that Obama is a socialist we have nothing more to talk about. I think it’s pretty clear his policies aren’t working. All I can say is think, don’t follow.

            Third point: Joe Biden is a dunderhead that is worse than Dan Quail could ever hope to be. His pandering and race card throwing is despicable.

            Gary

          • You have obviously never read about the American Robber Barons who effectively stole what they couldn’t buy, enslaved those who worked for them and were responsible for no less than three depressions including the stock market crash of 1929 and the depression that lasted almost all the way up to WWII. In fact, were it not for that war we might have suffered another decade of abuses.

            Before you go saying that the open market is the best route to take, read a little history and discover how that “open market” treated its employees. Sure, they had jobs. Working 96-hour work weeks with almost no pay. Were it not for our Unions AND the Federal Government, we would not enjoy the lifestyle we have today. We would not be taking week-long vacations. We would not have paid sick leave and we would not have a majority of the things we now take for granted.

            If you want to go back to those days, feel free. Just don’t expect me to want to follow you. I’ve served my time.

          • Thank you and well said. I was going to reply to Gary, but after reading your reply, ’nuff said!

          • CPANY

            Gary:

            You Tea Partyers want not only to reduce government spending, you want to give tax benefits to the rich and impose more expenses on the middle class.

            You’re nothing less than a bunch of elitist pricks.

          • DurdyDawg

            “First point: “Teabaggers” is a truly derogatory and disrespectful term, it refers to a sexual act.”

            How ’bout:

          • montanabill

            Don’t think. Don’t read. Don’t pay any attention to the praise Obama previously gave Ryan. Just keep your eyes and mind shut. Maybe you’ll be alright.

          • jarheadgene

            Don’t forget the stimulus money that Obama put through in the very beginnning of his term was voted on by Ryan. Now I don’t know where you live, but where I live, it is very clear that the bulk of that money went to road/bridge work. Guess where Ryan’s family fortune comes from……GO AHEAD GUESS. And now he wants to vilify the very teat that is gushing out milk to his family business…..what a jackhole!

          • CPANY

            Montana Bill:

            You’re an asshole.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Gerald… you must work for the Obozo campaign propaganda machine. You write that drivel and lies and you know it. Cutting Medicare is “saving” Medicare???? How stupid are you? You think you can get away with Obozo like double speak with me? Ask the old people on here if cutting their Medicare is saving their Medicare? I think you will find that they are not nearly as stupid as you are.

            Whoever is reading here, do not believe this propaganda artist and useful idiot. Do not believe me. Believe Obozo in his own words. YouTube search the following:

            jake tapper interviews obama on medicare

            Watch him in his own words state that he’s cutting Medicare and would veto any bill that sought to change those cuts. Go watch him…

            Have a nice day!

            “I don’t think your boss should get to control the health care you get. I don’t think insurance companies should control the care that you get. I don’t think politicians should control the care that you get. I think there’s one person to make these decisions on health care and that is you.” – Guess who said it

          • kantexmama

            My SS may be assured, but my children’s aren’t, and they’re just under 55 and have been paying into the system for many years. You are believing the right’s propaganda yourself… open your mind and at least check out both sides. Vouchers will only increase costs, certainly not security and reliability. Bush pushed hard for privatizing SS; guess what? If people had invested as he wished, they would have lost most if not all their investments in the recession. Is that what you want? Private enterprise has no business in SS or Medicare, since profit-making and cutting corners is what they’re all about, but what is needed is absolute dependability.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Kantex… you’ve obviously been suckling at the government teet for a long time because you are drunk with their lies and propaganda. You actually have not clue what you are talkinig about, but you seem to be certain in your anger for private investment. What you fail to realize are these facts:

            1) SS is Ponzi scheme. You are being paid right now with dollars that I am earning and paying into the system. It is unsustainable and is going broke. You are greedy because you know this, yet continue to take. Just like Bernie Madoff’s scheme, if you knew he was screwing everyone, but he was paying out to you, would you keep taking the money? You do admit that your children will not get back what they paid in, and your grandchildren will not get anything. Hey… but your “gettin yours” and that’s what’s important, right?

            2) In 1980, Chile offered citizens a choice: Private SS or Government SS. Are you aware of the fact that more than 90% of the people chose private? Are you aware of the fact that 30 years later, those that chose private earned an average return on their OWN PRIVATE MONEY of 8%? Are you aware that the government plan paid retirees less than 2% return? What kind of fool trusts politicians with their retirement funds? The most untrustworthy and greedy people in the world and you trust them with your retirement? How dumb can you be?

            3) Medicare IS going broke. And soon. Don’t ask me. Ask the Trustees that run it.

            4) If you do nothing to SS and Medicare, they will cease to exist on their own. We must do something to save the programs. Americans like the programs so we will keep them. But the truth is that something must me done. They should be means tested and private alternatives allowed for those that choose to use them. There is no other way out of the financial calamity that is looming on the horizon. This is not a Repub or DemoncRAT problem. It is a math problem. Remove thy head from thy arse please.

            Have a nice day!

            “I don’t think your boss should get to control the health care you get. I don’t think insurance companies should control the care that you get. I don’t think politicians should control the care that you get. I think there’s one person to make these decisions on health care and that is you.” – Guess who said it

          • Justin Napolitano

            Obozo, go peddle your BS to the uninformed. The goal of your Republican masters is to create a society that is made up of just the rich and the poor who will by enslaved by their lack of means to ever question the demands of the rich.
            Go away shill and tell your masters that many of us will never believe the Bullshit of people like you.

          • ObozoMustGo

            nappy…. I suppose you don’t believe Obozo, your messiah, in his own words, do you? You’re what is meant by the term “useful idiot”. hehehehehehehe

            Have a nice day!

            “One way to make sure crime doesn’t pay would be to let the government run it.” – Ronald Reagan

          • You know, one reason I don’t believe a word you are saying, OMB, is that every single time you refer to our President, you use an insulting name to belittle him. All that does is prove that you cannot make any discussion without trying to influence it emotionally. Well, I’ll tell you something. That is all the Republican party has to work with in its efforts to regain control of the White House and Senate–emotion. They cannot speak logically. They cannot speak succinctly. They cannot even begin to talk about the real truths of the issues. They can only swear and cry and try to frighten and overwhelm the people with emotional outbursts. Yes, that’s right; they’re nothing but bullies who run home to momma when they get their nose bloodied by the wimp who fought back.

            Personally, I’ve had enough. After this election season is over, I’m rescinding my membership in the Republican Party. There is Not One Republican politician that thinks for himself any more.

            Oh. And I will keep my guns, despite becoming a Democrat.

          • David – I think there are a lot of us ‘wimps’ who have had enough and have begun to fight back. Welcome to the thinking side, and despite what many say (especially Republicans as a scare tactic), a majority of Democrats honor your right to keep your guns, and choose to keep their’s as well!

          • jarheadgene

            OOORAAH! I am right there with you. I was a GOP for 30 years…tired of the B.S. and the extreme take over by the Tea Party. I am now a gun-toting, GOD-fearing, Christian, Democrat. Doesn’t mean I vote straight tickets, but lately, mostly I have. When someone like Gov. Perry calls SSN a Ponzi scheme, to the cheers of GOP crowds, I have to think about how the elderly would have fared these last 3 years with out it.

          • ObozoMustGo

            yeah, right! sure, sure, Dave. You’re a Republican….. bwwwaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

            You don’t have to be liar like Obozo.

            Don’t believe me. Believe Obozo in his own words. Go to YouTube and watch him say it. Search on this string: jake tapper interviews Obama on medicare

            Only a fool refuses to see the truth. Are you a fool?

            Good for you! Keep your guns and vote against any politician no matter what party that seeks to limit your 2nd Amendment rights.

            Have a nice day!

            “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan

          • 101strac

            For me, and millions more who think as I do, the most terrifying words in the English language would be Romney reciting the oath of office.

          • DukeDacat

            OBOZO, you have said about a dozen times, if you do not belive me “Go to YouTube” do you have any idea just how STUPID the sounds????

            Any idiot in the world may post any kind of crap they feel like on ” YouTube”

            “YouTube”… WTF are you thinking …………..

            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            duke… I usually don’t respond to you because you are the king of fools in this leftist sea of insanity, but this one is just too easy to demonstrate how stupid you really are:

            YouTube has clips of TV news programs. Yes. It is true, you moron. And the clip to which I am directing people (thank you for the opportuntiy for me to do so again) is a clip from an interview that your messiah Obozo gave to Jake Tapper on state controlled ABC News. It is your messiah in his own words stating that he is cutting Medicare and that he would veto any bills that would seek to eliminate those cuts.

            For all of you who are objective, as opposed to the moron and a$$hole to whom I am replying, go to YouTube and enter the following in the search bar:

            jake tapper interviews obama on medicare

            Thanks for giving me another reason to spread the truth, you slack-jawed moron. And wipe that drool from your chin, will you?

            Have a nice day, fool!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan

            And in Reagan’s case that was the truth!

          • dsand1445

            I went to the you tube video you referred to and and yes he said there was cuts to medicare but my understanding is it is coming from what the providers are paid not from the benefit side unlike the Ryan plan. I understand free speech but it’s really disrespectful to call the President. “Obozo” sad and childish.

          • ObozoMustGo

            dsand… Come on, buddy. You cant be fooled so badly by the leftist rhetoric to think that cutting medicare payments to providers is not cutting benefits. Think about it….

            You’re a doctor. It costs you $100 to provide a service to a patient. Medicare only pays you $80, but you do it anyway as service. Then Medicare cuts to providers come along and they now pay you only $30. At what point do you say I’m not losing any more money? If you now cannot afford to see Medicare patients, are benefits NOT being cut? Of course they are. Dude, think about what you are writing. Really, put some critical thought into what it is that you are being told.

            It is 100% TRUE THAT OBOZO IS CUTTING $711 BILLION FROM MEDICARE AND HE WILL VETO ANY BILL THAT SEEKS TO CHANGE THAT CUT! YOU HEARD IT FROM HIS OWN MOUTH!!! Don’t believe me. Believe Obozo.

            Re: the name Obozo…. I have the utmost respect for the office, but none for the current occupant. He clearly has no respect for America and our traditional values of individual liberty and freedom. He’s played more golf than he has had work days. He almost never even has cabinet meetings. He’s had over 200 fundraisers in 3.5 years. He flat out lies every time he speaks. How can anyone respect him? He is a clown. Hence the name, Obozo. Sorry… just the way I see it.

            Have a nice day!

            “Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
            that requires every citizen to prove they are insured …
            but not prove they are a citizen.”
            Unknown

          • DukeDacat

            OBOZO, you clearly are a F**king Idiot…….

            Oh, and “Have a nice day!”

          • Obozomustgo, you are the one who needs to go! People like you need to leave our country because “We the people” have had it with your kind. We want to work together and pay the taxes necessary to take care of our fellow Americans, we don’t want a society where manipulative socialpaths control the government and write laws and regulations that allow them to legally steal and profit from the rest of us and then hide their money in off shore accounts so they don’t have to pay their fair share in taxes. We don’t want a government that cuts taxes on the rich, claiming that it’ll stimulate the economy and then when the economy crashes, they want us to forget that their tax cuts caused the deficit and create new lies by saying the Government is too big, we’re spending too much and we can’t afford social programs that protect our children, the elderly, and the weakest Americans. Your trickle down economics has never worked, its been a disaster everytime its been tried, the Republicans have been wrong on every issue, they ruined our economy, they put millions of Americans out of work, they started wars based on lies, they sent our children to die in those unnessary wars, they were incompetent at protecting our country and allowed 9-11 to happen on their watch, they want to to shut down the EPA and poison our water, our air, our land, our climate, our environment in the name of profit, and then they want to blame Obama for the mess they created. Go tell your mindless lies to someone with an IQ lower than yours because “We the People” have had it with your kind and we don’t believe your non-sense. Save our country, protect your children’s future, vote Democrat.

          • 101strac

            Very well stated. I am in complete agreement with you.

          • CPANY

            Me too. Further: Obozomustgo sounds like an asshole to me.

          • Yes He Is A Lying ASSHOLE!!!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Davey boy! You can go put that needle back in your arm and drift off into DemoncRAT fantasy land once more….. Of course, that needle is probably paid for by me and other Americans that actuall work.

            Have a nice day!

            “I don’t think your boss should get to control the health care you get. I don’t think insurance companies should control the care that you get. I don’t think politicians should control the care that you get. I think there’s one person to make these decisions on health care and that is you.” – Guess who said it?????

          • DukeDacat

            Dave Lach….. BRAVO, Hurrah, and good job!!!! ……

          • Landsende

            Dave,
            Bravo! The democratic candidates should use your statement in their political ads. You succinctly put into words what so many believe. If you agree with Dave e-mail his statement to everyone you know. I am.

          • Obama’s cuts come from reducing payments to drug companies and hospitals and uses the savings to help low income children and their parents buy health insurance. As for the “liberal media”, every major media outlet in this country is owned by a large corporation or conglomerate. Not the kinds of organizations known for their leftist leanings. Fox Noise Rules!

          • ObozoMustGo – Paraphrasing your rude, inconsiderate Repug comment to Karen, ‘Please, Bozo, do not be so damned arrogant or an un-useful idiot’. We are all quite aware that you only listen to the big mouths of the airways on FOX, but please do not try to dump your shet here. And when all is said and done in November, remember we ‘DO NOT give a fair vetting of (ObozoMustGo) and what he says and does’. (another paraphrase)
            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            39… Don’t believe me that Obozo cut $711 BILLION out of Medicare. Believe your own messiah in his own words….

            YouTube and put this in the search: jake tapper interviews obama on medicare You will see Obozo right there telling you in his own words that this is the case.

            I dare you to see and hear the truth!

            Have a nice day!

            “Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
            that requires every citizen to prove they are insured …
            but not prove they are a citizen.”
            Unknown

          • CPANY

            Still making friends, ObozoMustGo?

          • TROLL DON’T Have Friends LOL!!!

          • Rafa8631

            You’re the idiot!!! Obama is not cutting services to Medicare. The $711B you mentioned are cost savings from Drug Corps, Hospital Services, and other Vendors to same Medicare as we know it for future generations. R/R’s plan will cut the same Billion $, however, they are cutting services by replacing the current Medicare with a set amount “Voucher”, after that is used up, then you are on your own! Republicans Lie and you believe them – What an idiot!! And it cannot believe you republicans are so in love with the – Russian, Atheist loving Paul Ryan!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Rafa… you sure you’re spelling your name correct? Shouldn’t it be Rasta???? as in Rastafarian? As in dope head??? All you can do is copy the same propaganda crap from the Obozo web site that all the other useful idiots on here are doing. Think for yourself, you moron, if that’s possible, which I doubt.

            Go back to you bong, you fleabagger OWS bum.

            Have a nice day!

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
            the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
            its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
            — Winston Churchill

          • Rafa8631

            You are dead wrong! But, there is no arguing with stupid! An R/R win will mean the end of the of America as we know it. The rich will build electric fences around their homes and there will no longer be a middle class. You will be poor, with no minimum wage, no workers rights, and no healthcare. You don’t have to name-call or yell to get attention, just because you don’t like to hear the truth. But a Republican win will be a disaster for our nation. If you want to vote for these clowns who do not want to talk about their plan to reduce the deficit, reform Medicare, reform the tax codes, etc. until after the elections then you are dumber than I thought.

          • CPANY

            Obozomustgo:

            I think that you smoke funny cigarettes before you write your comments and replies.

            Karin:

            Don’t pay any attention to this guy. I suspect that his “facts” are products of his imagination. He’s obviously a Tea Partyer. One can only imagine what else is wrong with him.

          • highpckts

            And how much does Romeys p[lan take out that isn’t in the initial layout because they don’t want anyone to know until after the election!

          • Rafa8631

            Karin – don’t believe OMG!! Ryan’s plan does take away medicare and it will privatize SS (private investments, like Wall Street), you know how great that works. Bush tried this and it was totally voted down. Now R/R wants to bring it back again. Ryan wants to give seniors a “voucher” towards premium to health insurance companies. This will cost seniors more as premiums increase. Eventually, it will be unsustainable and they will just do away with it – like the republican congress is doing to the Post Office. The Catholic Church has stated that Ryan’s plan is immoral.

        • Eleanore Whitaker

          karin…Oh puhlease…Your generation out of the McMansions and the only reason you’d rather trust Wall Street with your payroll deductions is to avoid doing what Americans who play fair must do…pay taxes. If Taxes are such an anathema to you…maybe your problem isn’t taxes…maybe your generation’s real problem is lack of sufficient maturity.

          • highpckts

            Our generation??? You can go to HELL! What a bunch of entitled brats you are!! My Dad fought in WWII and he lives on SS so you can just take the next flight our of here to another country with your bullshit!!

          • SaneJane

            Your comments seem to have little to do with karinursula’s. I have read both posts twice and don’t see the relevancy.

      • m

        ObozoMustGo is just one of many who will never admit that they have a huge problem with a black man in the white house.

        BTW, am a white man who will always vote Democratic

        • ObozoMustGo

          m…… “BTW, am a white man who will always vote Democratic” is actually code speak for “BTW, I am an absolute MORON”…….. BTW, I agree with you!

          Have a nice day!

          “The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” – Ronald Reagan

      • CPANY

        Uhh…Obozomustgo: What do you call replacing Medicare with vouchers, which will force people to go hunting for doctors who will accept them at face value? You know that this will cost seniors money, because Mittens and his stooge Ryan wouldn’t recommend it if it won’t reduce the medical bills. One estimate has it that it will costy seniors $6,400 a year.

        How about privatizing Social Security? You must love that idea. It will not only be a boon for Wall Street, it will expose seniors to the uncertainties of the stock market. Here’s the thing Obozomustgo: As one ages, one should become more conservative in one’s financial planning. You want retirees to do the opposite, to accept more risk, just so that the plutocrats can make a fortune. Does that really make sense to you?

        Bottom line, Obozomustgo: You are a reactionary who has found a place in the Republican Party. The Republican Party used to be conservative, but it no longer is conservative. It’s radical reactionary. It’s populated by a bunch of Yahoos who don’t give a damn for anything but the far right idiots who lied us into a war that has caused our problems by first breaking the national budget and then deregulating business to the point where in 2008 we lost forty percent of our retirement savings.

        If we do climb out of the hole that the Republicans got us into, it won’t be due to the efforts of pieces of crap like Romney and Ryan. It will be due to legislation that will reverse the offshore outsourcing, will place stronger controls on business, especially Wall Street, will create viable alternatives to fossil fuels and will get us out of that Middle East dump a place where we should have never been in the first place.

        Obozomustgo, I sense that you’re a rich reactionary. If you’re middle class, then I have to conclude that you’re a fool.

      • DukeDacat

        OBOZO, you are beyond doubt an idiot and express it every time you post to this site.
        Have a nice day!!!

      • bozo…71% of new births are to single mothers

        There will be a hell of a lot more if Repug
        s have their way…No contraception, no choice
        You want to be Pro-Life, give a helping hand to the single mother that chose ProLife…
        Ohh OK..thats not what you people meant….no “handouts” just have the kid…and yur job is done!!

        • ObozoMustGo

          Linda… don’t be such a sucker or a moron. Really. Do you really believe all that crap like Republicans will take away your pills or rubbers? How stupid are you? Really… just how stupid are you?

          YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE OF THE WORST DEGREE…. YOU DONT WANT GOVERNMENT IN YOUR BEDROOM, BUT YOU WANT THEM IN YOUR VAGINA, DONT YOU? THAT’S WHAT YOUR GETTING WHEN GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR YOUR PILLS AND CONDOMS. LIKE IT OR NOT, THAT’S THE TRUTH!!!

          You can go screw all the guys you want… be a slut like Fluke… why do you want me to pay for it? Why should I buy your condoms? Why should I pay for your abortions because you can’t keep your damned legs closed. Why do I bear the financial burden of your sexual practices? I don’t care what you do in your bedroom and I don’t want to pay for it. So STFU!!

          By the way, I do support abortion…. of future DemoncRATS only! Kill all your babies and you kill your evil party! Do the world a favor, please.

          For the rest… your right to freedom and liberty STOPS at the life of the defenseless, innocent and unborn. You do not have the right to kill another person. Sorry. Too bad. You don’t.

          Have a nice day!

          “I don’t think your boss should get to control the health care you get. I don’t think insurance companies should control the care that you get. I don’t think politicians should control the care that you get. I think there’s one person to make these decisions on health care and that is you.” – Guess who said it

          • DukeDacat

            As I Posted above,

            OBOZO, you are beyond doubt an idiot and express it every time you post to this site.

            Oh and, “Have a nice day!!!”

      • Talk about hypocritical!
        Generations of dependency on government– Hmm.
        Depending on the government to protect us from generations of “Robber Barons” who would drive every single non-weathly person into abject (financial) slavery (and a number of the wealthy too, if they could.)
        Depending on the government to ensure equal treatment of every person no matter their race, creed or color (something we’re still striving for).
        Depending on our government to ensure that those non-aborted children get a real life instead of living as waifs on the street.

        Believe me, without the American government our country honestly would be no better than any of those in Central or South America, Africa or even SE and SW Asia. Quite honestly, we would probably still be under the British Empire’s thumb with probably no more representation in the House of Commons than we did when we declared independence almost 250 years ago.

        What is worse–there are those in our current government that want to put us right back under the thumb–theirs–with no individual freedoms whatsoever.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Davey… do you have any clue what you’re typing? Or are you just copying from the Obozo propaganda machine’s web site? I’m betting on the latter because no one, not a single person with an IQ of at least 50 actually believes the hyperbole and cliche’s that you just typed. Only the most hardcore useful idiot and leftist freak thinks like that.

          Here’s how stupid you are…. you actually think that we would still be under British rule if not for American government. Hey moron…. the government came AFTER the Revolution and was instituted for the sole purpose of common defense and protection of unalienable rights granted to us by our creator. The role of the government IS NOT to be a nanny to namby pamby wimps like you who want someone else’s labor and property to be confiscated for your life needs, utopian experiments and charity. They did not institute our form of government to “take care of citizens” you dope!

          Have a nice day!

          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.” – Gerald Ford

      • Justin Napolitano

        Obozo, Free like you a Republican Shill?
        People would not depend upon the Government to keep them from starving if the last thirty years were not about giving the rich ownership of the nation.
        Ownership to the wealth created by the disappearing middle class. Ownership of the electorate by big business. Ownership of almost everything… except the Democratic Party.
        Go away shill we don’t need or want your advise or input.

      • Churchlady320

        Uhhhh- are you SO clueless that you don’t know we ended lifetime welfare in 1996? That was Newt’s biggie – and while it reduced the pauper rolls for sure since it is a LIFETIME maximum of five years IF your state approves that long – it did very little to end poverty. So you think we still have AFDC and lifetime welfare? Well, it wasn’t true then but FOR SURE it’s not true now.

        In CA the dollar amount – from which you have to pay rent and utilities – was reduced over the past years to $623 per month. You could get Medi-Cal (not dental or mental health or vision but basics, yes) and food stamps. That’s it. Now it’s down to around $300 per month. Good luck even paying rent with that.

        Where you get the notion of eternal BLACK dependence on the government is out of your backside. That IS racism right out your own mouth. If you don’t even KNOW what the GOP did in 1996 and how it operates today, then how are you fit to make commentary about policy, about Black people, about, well, anything? Over 60% of those on food stamps are WHITE. Dependence is a result of massive corporate greed and sending jobs away from the US. But allyou can get is 5 years maximum, and you have to work full time for that pittance of cash grants – meaning we’re sending people out to work at less than minimum wage for it.

        Happy now?

        As far as the breakdown of the family – well look at the losing proposition that outsourcing American jobs has done. Loss of entry level jobs has led to a TOTAL decline of two parent families in all sectors of the population. Thanks, private sector and Bain – closing plants and getting riches FROM THE GOVERNMENT to fatten your bottom line, yeah that’s doing our nation a TON of good – for the 1 percent.

        The only people getting fat off government are the corporate fat cats. Everyone else is on starvarion wages for a very limited time – not forever as our subsidies to ADM have been going on for decades despite their high rate of profit. Just saying – if you want to look at weak, unfit, morally decadent folks in America – I’d start with the soft underbelly of the elite class. Product of tired loins, these later generations of white privilege have NO idea how to work or produce or earn their way in the world. Their daddies and granddaddies are spinning in their graves over the phonies they brought into the world. Mitt’s not a businessman – he’s a pirate, a buccanneer. a freebooter stripping assets, getting government handouts, and stuffing money in his pockets (he’s the sole shareholder of Bain) while putting thousands out of jobs. Mitt never met a payroll, never created a product of service. He just looted what he could – a lot of it government handouts.

        You want to see what’s what, read David Cay Johnston’s books “Free Lunch” and “Perfectly Legal”. It’s YOUR money being sucked out of your pockets and into corporate coffers for doing NOTHING, so you might want to see how you’ve fallen for the shell game. Again.

        If you’re going to comment, know your facts. Otherwise your opinion is just another very rude noise made in public. Lifetime gov’t dependence for Black people! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

        • ObozoMustGo

          Churchlady… do not think that I support corporate welfare, and not people welfare. I support neither. There is NOTHING moral about a person living off the labor of another. And any one that believes a politician can confiscate a person’s earnings for the purpose of giving to another is a STONE COLD MORON! You have bought the lie of the left. You have been suckered! You’re a dupe!

          What do you call it when an armed man approaches you and demands your money? Robbery. Now, does it matter if the man who robs you then takes the money he stole from you and gives it to a homeless man? Is it still robbery? Of course it is. The robber has deprived you of your property, which is a crime. If you know this is a crime, then why do you go to the voting booth and vote for the pepetuation of the crime?

          Are you aware of the fact that only 10 cents of every dollar that goes into any one of the 187 public assistance programs at the Federal level even reaches intended recipients? Why would you support a charity with such a failed record? How can you be so heartless? You act as though you have compassion but your voting record and reality reflect otherwise.

          You and I don’t disagree about the need for a safety net. We disagree on HOW that safety net should be set up and managed. You support the methods of liars who have convinced you to outsource your charity to them. You support the liars who tell you to give them the power to confiscate another man’s earnings, whom you are jealous of by the way, and the liars will do the charity for you. That’s YOUR definition of compassion, and you are immoral. And a sucker!

          You want to talk about outsourcing? What the heck do you know about outsourcing? NOTHING… that is 100% clear. Obozo is the biggest outsourcer in American history. How ignorant can you be??? Apparently, very ignorant. $80 BILLION to GM… 167,000 workers employed OUT OF AMERICA… 7 out of 10 cars they make are made overseas. 11 new joint ventures in China. Dozens of new plants being built in China. CEO gives speech proclaiming their China operations as the most important in their future. What kind of idiot does NOT see this giveaway of taxpayer dollars to creat jobs in China as outsourcing THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR?? Also, who is running our space program now? How are we getting people into space? Uhhhhh…. stupid…… that has been outsource to Russia! That’s right. Obozo has outsourced NASA to Russia. Only the most hardcore useful idiot to the DemoncRATS would complain that Romney is an outsourcer in light of what the anti-American loser in chief Obozo has done. You are a hypocrite!!! BIG TIME!

          Romney never created a job???? As if Obozo, the community thug has ever had to meet a payroll??????? How stupid are you? Do people work at Bain Capital? Are those jobs???? Do those human beings count to you? Guess not. Is Staples just a figment of people’s imaginations? How stupid are you? Don’t answer that. We have established the depths of your foolishness already.

          Churchlady, I am certain that you are a very nice person. And that you have a great deal of compassion for the least fortunate among us. As I do. But your politics are 100% opposite of what you think you are. You have been lied to for years, and I am certain you will continue to believe those lies with the most fervent of faith. But they are lies, just the same. Outsourcing charity to politicians and bureaucrats that have their own self-interest for power and reelection is a fool’s game. Don’t be a fool!

          Thank you for your tougths, Churchlady. I mean that. God bless you!

          Have a nice day!

          “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
          the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
          its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
          — Winston Churchill

        • CPANY

          Obozomustgo: Are you getting all of this? Read these replies carefully. Tey’re well tyhought out and may give you an inkling of how the majority is thinking.

          • Churchlady320

            Thank you. The fury of defense is beyond comprehension. We live in a republic elected by a democracy, and that representative government, including GOP in earlier days, believed in compassion. NO ONE is robbed of his or her earnings but is taxed as part of shared responsibility of one to the next and to the nation as a whole.

            When the private sector does well, and when it sees employees as part of that equation, we flourish as a nation. When it sees employees as something to get rid of, we’re in a race to the bottom and headed toward becoming a banana republic.

            No – Romney did not meet a payroll. When you start with Daddy’s money, it’s entirely different from beginning a business out of your own blood, sweat, and tears. I’m shocked people think he’s a “businessman” because he’s not. He has no idea what small and middling businesses go through. And he does not care. They are only sources of riches to be stripped of assets to put into his pocket, never mind the consequences to the initial owners, the employees, the communities, or to our nation that often bails him out as he strips assets. He offered no services to the public nor any goods of his creation. That’s not business. That’s piracy. Perfectly legal, but piracy nonetheless.

            We who work, who have built businesses, who have stood with the unemployed, who see the unjustness of the manipulated tax code favoring UNproductive riches over the creation of productive wealth have pretty much had it with the defense of private property over people. The Constitution provides no guarantees for private property outside the 4th and 5th amendment protections IF you have it. It does not put property rights ahead of human rights – quite the opposite.

            It’s time for this nation to regain its original intent of opening opportunity to everyone – and if we really believed that and acted on it, we would require businesses to be responsible for the acts they take and the consequences thereof. That WAS the justification for free enterprise as it was being created after the Revolution in the late 18th century – that it would benefit the community and the state and the nation and the people therein as the FIRST PRINCIPLE, not the last. Time to get back to basics.

      • ExPAVIC

        OBOZO More Idiocy from the Right

        Come now, not time for the same old, same old from the fans of the rich 4%.

        The American Taliban Republican’s effort is to take the poor and middle class out of the picture again so the rich, monied, and privileged can rape and pillage again as they did under George W. Bush and his daddy.

        This writer would feel a lot better if more of the rich’s sons and daughters enlisted in the armed forces and or the National Guard because now they are obviously absent. Much like Mittens in Le Havre, France, converting street walkers to Mormonism while many of us were up to out butts in rice paddy water while the rich made money through the Defense Industrial Complex.

      • I’ve been working and paying taxes to help support this country since I was 15 years old. I’m 60 now and looking forward to my retirement. I’m secure in the knowledge that my country, as it stands today cares enough for its citizens to ensure their security in the last years of their life and not to make them fend for themselves for healthcare, food or any other essentials all the while wealthy citizens continue to scam the IRS into letting them NOT pay taxes and some actually running for the presidency of this great nation. Only fools or the very rich will follow and trust Romney/Ryan to care for their personal and vital interests. When are people like you going to realize that 99% of the 1% care only for themselves.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Bill… how did you make it to 60 ys. old without wandering out into traffic?

          You are not entitled to live off the labor of another man, no matter what you think, you fool!

          Have a nice day!

          “By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt.” – James Madison

          • How did I make it to 60 without wandering out into traffic? LOL!! I look both ways before crossing. Also,I don’t live off the labor of anyone but my own. I’m educated, intelligent and hardworking. I notice you place some very succint quotes from great thinkers at the end of your arguments; thank you for that. Quotes such as these are always enjoyable to read. You seem very intelligent to me….maybe you’ll come up with an original thought of your own and perhaps knock-off the name calling. It doesn’t suit you. Have a beautiful day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Bill… you seem to have a good sense of humor! Kudos to you. Thanks for the chuckle. [being serious]

            Have a great day!

            “Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
            that requires every citizen to prove they are insured …
            but not prove they are a citizen.”
            Unknown

      • Eleanore Whitaker

        Uh OBozo…I call it intelligent. Put all YOUR money into privatized investments…and then when Wall Street crashes for a 5th time, we will laugh at fools who think they are immune to loss….Madoffing your way to wealth isn’t sustainable and when Wall Street crashes, do you think your mentalities are entitled to help from the rest of we, the smart, intelligent, responsible Americans? Go play some more reckless Madoffer games on Wall Street with your money. NO…you can’t have our payroll deductions to spend and help you grow wealthy. NO you can’t recklessly risk our payroll deductions and then when that recklessness gets out of control come begging bailouts for utter and absolute stupidity.

        • ObozoMustGo

          uhhhh El…. you are a fool! Only a fool believes that investments are a bad thing. Further, only a leftist idiot thinks MY compensation and deductions belongs to them before my earnings belong to me. YOU are what is wrong with America, you parasite! 10 to 1, you’re a taker, not a maker.

          Have a nice day!

          “By rendering the labor of one, the property of the other, they cherish pride, luxury, and vanity on one side; on the other, vice and servility, or hatred and revolt.” – James Madison

      • Hey Bozo, Get Your conservative head out! I call it Your ‘conservative head because You must be saving it for something, You certainly are not using it now! You begrudge poor people in need of some government help. Yet You say nothing of the ‘retired’ legislators who still receive millions of dollars of tax payer money for the rest of their miserable lives. Thanks for a job well done. hahahaha. Get it!! Get Your head out Bozo. I would love to discuss this in person. Just plain Bill.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Bill… This may surprise you…. Thank you. I agree with you. Legislator retirement packages are nothing more than ripoffs of the tax payers. If we get fully rid of ANY retirement packages for politicians, I guarantee you we will see the death of the career politician… a good thing…. right or left.

          I can still point out the foolishness of the Federal government having 187 different public assistance programs. The Fed does not belong in the welfare business. They belong in the defense, justice, and oversight business. Not the robbing Peter to pay Paul business. Anyone that supports the idea that a politician should be allowed to confiscate one man’s earnings and give it to another man is morally corrupt. Especially considering the FACT that less than 10 cents that is confiscated ever reaches it’s intended recipients. You would never support a charity that tells you that, Bill. Why do you support politicians that tell you the same thing? It’s a scam, Bill, and you’ve been duped. The real purpose of selling you these lies is to play on your “compassionate side” while hiding the fact that the politicians use your money to build their bureaucratic empires AND for the very retirement packages you decry in your post. Dont you get it? What is wrong with you? I could tell you that you are stupid, but I don’t believe that is really true. I just think that when you objectively look at what you are supporting, you will realize that you have been duped. I was once like you, Bill. Then I woke up. It’s time you wake up also.

          Have a nice day!

          “Socialism is a philosophy of failure,
          the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
          its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
          — Winston Churchill

          • Landsende

            Hi Bozo,
            What do you mean when you say the government belongs in the defense, justice and oversight business? Do you mean government agencies like the SEC, FCC, EPA, OSHA, FAA, CPA, FBI, DHS, and CBP. Romney and Ryan want to gut most of these agencies which help to protect our borders, enviroment, work place safety, another wall street financial collapse, the safety ofproducts we use, and airplane safety.

            Have a nice day!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Hi Land! I hope you are doing well today!

            To answer your question, yes… on 2 matters. Certainly some of the agencies you mention are actually a function of defense… CIA, FBI, DHS. Others are needed to oversee financial markets, pharmaceuticals, etc. However, the Feds have NO business being in the “rob Peter to pay Paul” business.

            I don’t quite get your thinking, though, Land. I mean, I do get your thinking, but when I apply your rationale it simply does not make any sense. Here’s why. You say the following:

            >”Romney and Ryan want to gut most of these agencies which help to protect our borders, enviroment, work place safety, another wall street financial collapse, the safety ofproducts we use, and airplane safety. “<

            Now… to say something like that requires a thought process that reveals 2 things:

            1) It is either an intentional lie, or it's fear mongering. This is like cities that are going bankrupt and have no money so the politicians ALWAYS say they will have to lay off the cops and firefighters when the city itself blows way more money on social services. They ALWAYS use the threat of crime and safety to fear monger their way into NOT cutting their budgets. The reality of their own disastrous financial situation isnt even enough to get them to accept reality, and they instead choose to lie and fear monger. I don't know if this is the case with you so much as you are susceptible to being fooled. All leftists are either intentionally evil or they are susceptible to buying the lies of the left because they are emotionally based thinkers rather than logically based thinkers.

            2) Your comment indicates that you trust that government prevents work place accidents, stock market declines, defective products, and airplane crashes. So in your thinking, if government does those things, then more government MUST be better. NOTHING could be further from the truth. Perfect example: while you crackpots on the left scream about food safety, a women in Philly who makes lunches for 100 poor children is being fined and threatened with jail for not having permits to feed poor children. Bureaucrats go around shutting down little kids lemonaide stands and preventing school bake sales. They peak in little girls' lunch bags and tell them that they cannot eat the lunch their mothers packed for them. LAND… THESE ARE JUST A SCRATCH OF THE SURFACE OF THE INTRUSION OF TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT. DONT YOU GET IT??? And it happens in EVERY agency where unelected bureaucrats MUST come up with more and more and more ways to intrude on American lives just simply because they must justify their existence, all the while they are telling you that it's for your own good.

            You see, Land… every time you vote for more and more and more government and more and more regulation, you are voting for more intrusion into my life and further restrictions to MY liberty. You guys on the left are trying to make everyone else conform to what you say we must be. If you want to give up your liberties, fine, go ahead. But don't be giving up mine. Don't you get it?

            Fnally… Our borders are NOT protected now. What are you talking about? How can you cut what's not being done? Cut it out, Land. Be honest. And the Obozo DoJ is suing any state that atttempts to address the problem. Disgusting!!

            The fact of the matter is that America is $16 TRILLION in debt. That's more than our GDP, Land. Obozo's Rob Peter to Pay Paul Economics is a failure. Our annual deficits exceed $1.3 TRILLION. When are you leftist nutjobs going to wake up and smell the coffee? When are you gonna admit, we HAVE to cut things. We cannot continue spending ourselves into oblivion. What is so difficult to understand here. WE ARE BROKE!!!! When are you leftists going to admit the truth? Stop blaming Bush, stop blaming Obozo, and start accepting reality. Start supporting politicians, as rare as they are, that will look you in the eye and tell you the truth… that cut's might hurt, but they ahve to be done. Dems at the state and local level are doing this. Repubs are the only ones at the National level doing it. Why aren't the DemoncRATS?

            Nice chatting with you again, Land.

            Have a great day!

            “The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much.” – Ronald Reagan

      • highpckts

        Boy you sure can spin a good story!! According to you it will be Paradise if Romney gets in! What planet do you live on!!

      • I disagree with Mr. Obozo 100%! That theory was true in the past, but not today…clearly you have not taken note of the many young people who have graduated college and can’t find a job to support them enough to move out on their own! This did not occur under just the Democrates only to the black family! The history here is too long for this page and clearly you are unaware of it!

        • ObozoMustGo

          Flora… while you and I may disagree on the causes, I will agree with you 100% that generational dependency is not only confined to black people, but afflicts all who are hooked on the government for their basic needs. It is unfortunate that anyone is. But it is true. However, it is equally true and just as fair to point out the disasterous effects that have hit the black family, or what’s left of it in most cases, notwithstanding the fact that there are many strong families that happen to be black. But the statistics of unwed mothers, single parent households, absent fathers, unheralded crime rates and disproportionate incarceration, decrepid city neighborhoods to dangerous for children to be in the streets, the rate of drug and alcohol addiction…. all of these social ills afflict black Americans far more seriously than any other group. This is truth. It’s OK to tell the truth. It disgusts me as much as I think it disgusts you. And the color of skin has NOTHING to do with the problems. The same afflictions hit any color person because we are humans, not members of a group. It just so happens that the increase in anti-social behaviors has coincided with the advent of the welfare state, otherwise known as LBJ’s Great (Destruction of) Society programs. Whatever we subsidize, we tend to get more of it. Subsidizing poverty breeds more poverty, both financially and morally. That is truth, Flora. It’s OK to tell the truth.

          Thank you for your thoughts.

          Have a nice day!

          “I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others.” – Abraham Lincoln

      • AmadiSadiki

        African Americans do not desire slavery of any kind for themselves. like James Brown said in a song: “I don’t want nobody to give me nothing, open up the door and I’ll get it myself!” What we are dealing with is a generational and institutional problem. By the way, the majority of people on welfare are not African-Americans but are Caucasions. From the birth of this nation, when African-Americans were designated as 3/5 of a person through today where you have a criminal justice system that has already reinstituted another form of slavery in the African-American community this nation has perpetuated a system of cultural and institutional advantage of one ethic group over another. just recently it was revealed that Wells Fargo offered loans with lower interest rates to Caucasions than to equally qualified African-Americans. Since historically, African-Americans have been discriminated against as it relates to job, housing and investment oportunities it would seem logical that the group would have unique problems and also advantages. This country has always been able to solve the problems that it has a will to address. But there has never been a collective will to address the unfairness and inequity of the legacy of racism from our past practices. All people want pretty much the same things, a sustainable life-style and a secure future for their children. No one wants to be dependent upon the government and government assistance is not even enough for a person to live a comfortable life. Many in the African-American community are struggling with catch-22 situations that make it dificult to break out of dysfunctional patterns that relate to personal choices but also to a system that is geared toward chewing them up, spitting them out, and writing them off as colateral damage. This idea is what the Romney campaign represents to many of us. He wants to restore what has worked for him and his kind, and too bad for those who have suffered and continue to suffer under this unequal system. And yes, I think that he and Ryan are perfectly ok with the pattern of the reinslavement of African-Americans. It will just be slavery by another name (aka: mass incarceration). We need to look at each other as neighbors and realize that the gap between the economic and political status of African Americans and other ethic groups is not just an African-American problem but is a national issue that we need to collectively resolve so that we can move forward as a nation. I honestly believed that the metaphor that Biden used was appropriate and applicable.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Amadi… you are brainwashed into believing your own victim fantasies. There is nothing that holds back black people from becoming as much as they can be. The very fact that Obozo is President belies your entire philosophy and the lie of “institutional racism”. You’re probably young and just learned all that garbage at some leftist seminary….. errr…. college where they indoctrinated you with clap trap and useless bullsheet that when combined with 2 bucks will get you a Starbucks coffee, and nothing else. No one in the real world cares what you think of institutional racism.

          Though I disagree, thank you for your thoughts.

          I have one question for you. Please answer.

          Why was the 3/5ths rule put into the Constitution? Tell me please.

          Have a nice evening!

          “I have always thought that all men should be free; but if any should be slaves it should be first those who desire it for themselves, and secondly those who desire it for others.” – Abraham Lincoln

          • AmadiSadiki

            My understanding is that the 3/5 rule was used for the purposes of allocating representation in congress to slave states based on their slave populations. Although this is a political issue and had to do with votes in the congress it symbolizes to African Americans that from the beginning, we were not considered to be equal to citizens of European heritage. As it relates to your statement that my views represent a feeling of victimization. That is not true. I am just relating to you the relevant facts and history that have led us to our current state of affairs. The fact of the matter is that this country has a racist heritage that continues into the present day because people do not want to acknowledge historical patterns. I also cited personal choices as a factor in the condition of the African-American community. It is easy for you to discount the impact of institutional racism because you are part of the group that has benefited from the competitive advantage that citizens of European heritage have gained because of the inequities of our system. This is the problem with the Romney/Ryan perspective, the lack of courage and integrity to do the right thing even though it will not be to their immediate advantage. Why should they give up their position of advantage even though it was gained through unfair and unjust practices? What I am saying to you is to give up your condescending projections about another groups so-called dependency on the government and look at the situation with the sensitivity and clarity of a sophisticated perspective.I advocate not for dependency but for a level playing field. There needs to be an institutional effort to balance the effects of an institutionally caused problem. The effort starts with the view that we are in this together and when injustice is perpetrated against any group of Americans we suffer as a nation. We could start by examining the inequities of our criminal/justice system. Did you know that African Americans statistically use less illegal drugs than their Euro-American fellow citizens but yet are arrested and incarcerated at a far higher rate (no one is trying to arrest the college students for their drug use). And by the way, I am over 60 years old and I reiterate, Romney/Ryan are advocating policies that would potentially put us back in chains but we are not going to let that happen.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Amadi… it has been some time since I received this post. Please excuse my tardiness. As you can imagine, I get slammed with responses from this site constantly. I think I’m the favorite battering ram around here. I don’t mind it though. It’s a badge of honor.

            You’re dead wrong on the 3/5s rule. 180 degrees wrong. At the time of the Constitution and following the Revolutionary War, the vast majority of the northern states’ representatives wanted to abolish slavery right off the bat. However, the southern states did not want to do that. And the southern states wanted slaves to be counted each as 1 man, even though slaves could not vote. Now, when setting up a House of Representatives and Electoral College system that is based on proportional representation, counting 1 for 1 would have gived the south proportional advantages in Congress and Presidential votes. This was one of the biggest sticking points at the Constitutional convention in the Spring and Summer of 1787 and nearly resulted in a failed effort to form the Union. The norther states knew that too much representation to the southern states would mean that slavery could never be abolished. But to form the Union, they were forced to compromise on the 3/5s rule. You see, the 3/5s rule was meant to be the first stepping stone toward the abolishment of slavery. If anything, blacks could be pissed that they even counted the slaves as anything in representation because it gave more power to slave owners than they deserved. But the compromise had to be made to save the Union.

            While America is not without her sins over the ages, we have the best Constitution ever written by man that allows for those sins to be corrected and overcome. And we have done so. When a black man hits the pinnacle of world power as POTUS, there is NOTHING that a person cannot accomplish because of the color of his skin.

            You can claim institutional racism all you want. It’s a fantasy world that exists only to those that seek to see the world through the eyes of excuses and victimhood. Does racism exist today? Certainly. But it’s a very small percentage of the population. Most recent polling shows that about 1 – 2% of Americans will not vote for Obozo because he is black. The rest of us don’t give a damn what color his skin is. 18% say they wouldn’t vote for Romney because he’s a Mormon. Religious bigotry is far worse in America than racism. But who cares. You will never perfect man with public policy and affirmative action, no matter how much you try. The world will always have it’s faults. The trick in life is to turn roadblocks into hurdles and get over them or around them. Expecting some government policy to be the wind in your sails is believing in a false prophet.

            Thanks for the discussion, Amadi.

            Have a nice day!

            “What I do say is, that no man is good enough to govern another man, without that other’s consent. I say this is the leading principle – the sheet anchor of American republicanism.” – Abraham Lincoln

      • AmadiSadiki

        African Americans do not desire slavery of any kind for themselves. like James Brown said in a song: “I don’t want nobody to give me nothing, open up the door and I’ll get it myself!” What we are dealing with is a generational and institutional problem. By the way, the majority of people on welfare are not African-Americans but are Caucasions. From the birth of this nation, when African-Americans were designated as 3/5 of a person through today where you have a criminal justice system that has already reinstituted another form of slavery in the African-American community this nation has perpetuated a system of cultural and institutional advantage of one ethic group over another. just recently it was revealed that Wells Fargo offered loans with lower interest rates to Caucasions than to equally qualified African-Americans. Since historically, African-Americans have been discriminated against as it relates to job, housing and investment oportunities it would seem logical that the group would have unique problems and also advantages. This country has always been able to solve the problems that it has a will to address. But there has never been a collective will to address the unfairness and inequity of the legacy of racism from our past practices. All people want pretty much the same things, a sustainable life-style and a secure future for their children. No one wants to be dependent upon the government and government assistance is not even enough for a person to live a comfortable life. Many in the African-American community are struggling with catch-22 situations that make it dificult to break out of dysfunctional patterns that relate to personal choices but also to a system that is geared toward chewing them up, spitting them out, and writing them off as colateral damage. This idea is what the Romney campaign represents to many of us. He wants to restore what has worked for him and his kind, and too bad for those who have suffered and continue to suffer under this unequal system. And yes, I think that he and Ryan are perfectly ok with the pattern of the reinslavement of African-Americans. It will just be slavery by another name (aka: mass incarceration). We need to look at each other as neighbors and realize that the gap between the economic and political status of African Americans and other ethic groups is not just an African-American problem but is a national issue that we need to collectively resolve so that we can move forward as a nation. I honestly believe that the metaphor that Biden used was not inappropriate.

      • Bozo, you call generations of dependency on the government MANIPULATION. You should know that. I can tell from your logic and your choice of words that you are deeply indoctrinated in your white supremacy or you’re a bozo tea party member whose mind is fogged by all the marijuana and beer you comsume. You can’t help yourself. You should get your head out of your butt and get some fresh air for a change

      • I found Mr. Romney’s comment to be offensive with racial overtones and very hate filled,the chains of oppression has never been broken ,for this cause Christ did come into the world to free all those under bondage. We cannot allow the thinking of Mr. Romney to infleuence our behavior less we become as low as him that believe in nothing. The truth will prevail and the liar shall be revealed ; how do he call himself a Mormon, he’s the biggest liar on the planet beside satan himself

    • How stupid can people be to belive all the bulsit

    • GOP/Tea Party American Taliban Card Carrying Racist Thugs, Really Think We Are Stupid What Biden Said IS TRUE, Nobody Playing The Race Card When These Racist Thug Just Traded The Hooded Sheets For Business Suits!!!! Michele Bachmann Made A Statement That Blacks Was Better Off When They Were Slaves Newt G. Made Racidst Statement Also!!! SCREW These Racist Thugs!!! NONE OF MY FAMILY DEPENDS ON GOVERNMENT WE ALL GOT GOOD JOBS!!!!

    • SaneJane

      Absolutely. Their goal is to widen the gap between the 1% and the 99% and that equals servitude for the latter.

      • Churchlady320

        Calling for “unshackling” banks is OK? That’s what we did, and we see how well that worked out.

        Calling for freedom for working people – the ability to have a sustainable future – and that the plan is to chain US all up so we won’t interfere with the market – that’s bad.

        There is a fundamental difference today – you can see it in TARP, in the auto bailout, in health care. In Romney’s world that which helps corporations is great. That which helps people is bad.

        In Obama’s world – that which helps people is great, and that which helps corporations is good IF AND ONLY IF it also helps people. I have no problem with the latter, but the Romney-Rand values system is a recipe for the death of democracy and middle class living standards.

    • S-3

      *salutes the woman talking the truth for today*

      • Churchlady320

        Well, thank you very much!

  • Junebug78

    Don’t forget, if you ever knew, it wasn’t just the white population that were slave owners. Southern
    and Northern states had many Free Black Americans and they too were some of the largest Slave
    Owners of record. Take a look at the pre Civil War Census Records. When you point a finger, there are three of your fingers pointing back at you!

  • WhutHeSaid

    Methinks they protest too much. It’s closer to the truth about the Tea Party than allows for comfort, and that’s because it’s immediately what comes to their minds. Tsk, tsk!

  • After all the hyperbole waxed by the Republicans referring to the president of the United States as a “Kenyan”, “Usurper”, “Liar”, “Socialist”, “Communist”, “Fascist” and/or “Thief” to wage their metaphorical war on the poor and underpriviledged, Biden’s metaphorical reference to “chains” seems pretty tame. After all, in a democracy, when you’ve been denied the right to vote, you are, effectively at the mercy of those in power. You are “in chains”. I get it. Oh. And the folks in Benton Harbor? How would you describe their status, if not “in chains”? Joe’s right, dammit. Rove and the right wing’s just out there “projecting” again.

  • I agree with Biden considering all the programs getting cut will affect the poor and the rich will get richer. The GOP has made it very clear they are fighting to protect their pockets and the 1% and could care less about the average American. Has anyone noticed the only time the GOP mentions the average American is during an election and once in office forget all about us. The Democrats have done it to. If this was a war the poor & middle class would stand alone, while the wealthy flee to parts unknown to enjoy their wealth.

  • It’s only OK when republicans say it, CUT ME A BREAK!!!!!!

  • Republican are always outraged, so let them scream all they want. Like my daddy use to say, “if you can’t take don’t dish it out.”

  • Joe Biden! Speaks the truth! Sad! but the truth! I`ll stick with the truth! Obama/Biden 2012!

  • what race? any race can be put in chains, kidnapers chains who thy kidnap. the romans put chains on ppl. its not a race thing it is to the ding dongs that take thing the way there simpl;e minds lets them . and for those f you how do take it that way go back to ur GOP ding dong party. go to te new pair that swings in a bulls sack (the anti-christ romney and lil eddie monster ) thy wioll be sucking the life out of the ppl. and the county

  • Joe Narusiewicz

    The Romney/ Ryan plan especially hits minorities as it gives tax breaks to Billionaires; it also hits women and children. Racism is expressed in many subtle and sublime ways and economic disparity is definitely a form of it. Their plan also hits college students and makes education more and more for the rich. The democrats need to remember what happened with John Kerry and the swift boat ads. They need to expose these shills for the 1% more and more and hit them hard and define them as the cold ideologues they are. These selfish Ayn Rand vampires will suck the blood out of this nation.

  • Joe Biden is a race biter an will always be. He like Al Sharpton, Farrkhan, New Black Pather Party all make a living from people that do not know any better. Look at the getto’s the democrats already have them in bondage.

    • hilandar1000

      Rasmussen, How many days have you spent in a ghetto? How could you know what it’s like? Just as in any neighborhood — yes, that includes yours — there are good and not-so-good people. To paint everyone with a broad brush because of the neighborhood in which they live, the color of their skin, their ethnic background, etc. is ludicrous and shows your inclination toward bigotry and ignorance. Take a good look at yourself. Perhaps it is not them, but you, yourself, who does “not know any better”. If you continue with your way of thinking, you are probably going to vote for the party who wants corporate rule of our great country with no regulations to protect the health and well-being of the middle class. Do you honestly think that you have a chance of being in the top one percent who will hold all the clout in this country? The gaps between the wealthy and the poor will continue to widen, and you may very well find yourself in the ghetto with those you judge so harshly and inaccurately.

  • elyely

    this will be truly a chain, how else he can put it?? right on!! it is better than Rommney’s arrogance and ‘Put up or shut up’ frequent choice of word just to get around direct questions and not to provide evidence!!!

  • John Brady

    Biden is right on the mark, as always. The only reason the Republicans are yelling at him now is that he struck a raw nerve — that they do, indeed, want to put the middle class back in financial chains. All the Republicans want to do, in this election, is to reward the rich for their billionaire’s financial support through those sickening PACs. Obama and all of the Democrats on the ballot in my district are going to get the two votes of myself and my wife. And, the irony in all of this is that I am a registered Republican. So much for their ability to even get these two votes!

    • 101strac

      I have been saying for some time now that there are very many republicans who have become so unhappy with, and discouraged by the manner in which their party has been taken over, by a group of radicals, who do not have America’s best interests included in their plans. I applaud your decision to vote for President Obama, and hope that other like thinking members of your party will see the wisdom of not letting this rabid group of power hungry individuals take control of this country. I offer my thanks to you both for your well thought out decision

      • CPANY

        I’ve been registered Republican since I could vote, but I’ve become increasingly disgusted with the human crap that has taken over the party.

        • 101strac

          Then I hope CPANY that you too will take the action of John Brady and his wife. Don’t give in to these manipulating miscreants. I am a democrat, but I have voted Republican on many occasions over the years, depending on the man, or the situation. This dire situation we find ourselves in now will surely be our undoing if these people are allowed to prevail, to buy and manipulate their way into the White House.

  • greghilbert

    I think Repubs are protesting because they WANT to get racists riled up over the idea of Obama-Biden pandering to blacks, and because they want all the distractions they can muster.

  • Paul Ryan: At 42 years old, he wants smaller government. And yet, the only “career” he’s every had has been in government…for the past 18 years. After attending government-subsidized public schools and a government-subsidized state university. The gall of these guys is just incredible. If he wants smaller government, then he should start…by firing himself.

  • Gop always coming up with some nonsense… As VPresident Joe Biden said we will be in bondage or chains what ever you want to say… The middle class is comprised of different nationalities. Explain to me how do you claim VPresident Biden is playing the race card????? You have a man is “self made” Willard Mitt Romney, said that poor people have a safety net… he would fix the holes and agreeing at the same time with his running mate Paul Ryan to cut social programs that help the poor and elderly which make it literally impossible for seniors and the poor to live… I loved my mother and this is the first time in 2yrs that I’m glad she gone… so she does not have to live through another 1960’s civil rights era and have her right to vote stripped and no medicare if these two imbeciles take office…. Romney and Ryan don’t know how to live on small income of SSecurity, food stamps, a work first check for their children, wic to get milk and cheese and formula for their babies and free government food, cheese, peanut butter, dry milk just to feed their family… Their spoon has always been silver and mine has always been looking for a better job just to feed my family…. We can’t get lost in the hype… we have to listen to their hearts and it is not for the middle class and poor of the country…

  • He may not be the police officer of the GOP but somebody needs to be. Those people are so out of control. They really need to be restrained.

  • lies, biggoty,racism,hate speeches all from the gop/teaparty. How long do we all have to listen to this crap before we get up and VOTE them out of offices all across America?

  • In case you hadn’t noticed, Allen West IS BLACK and Joe Biden is just plain stupid. Dodd Frank is a disaster for businesses in this country and was passed by a strictly democrat congress and presidet and named for the 2 individuals most responsble for the financial disaster we went through in 2008.

    • CPANY

      Dodd Frank caused the 2008 disaster? Are you completely nuts or just spouting lies?

      I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that you’re one of those whacky born again Christians.

  • MBM

    For those who insist on using pejoratives, try getting your point across without the use of childish name calling, while interspersing passive-aggressive, trite remarks along with lofty quotes… the mix is disconcerting and discordant…and completely undermines your message.

  • joujou228

    The GOP needs to keep their mouth shut on race, after self-deportation, telling blacks to deman paycheck instead of foodstamp or welfare, and less I forget Blah people. I am a black woman and that’s two strikes against the GOP. One can see that Vice-President Biden audience was mixed as is in the case of democratic rallies.

  • boy thats calling the kettle black!

  • I THINK VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN IS TELLING THE TRUTH. WE BETTER WAKE UP QUICKLY AND SMELL THE ROSES.

  • VICE PRES. BIDEN IS TELLING THE TRUTH, WE BETTER WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES.

  • montanabill

    Biden? Seriously? This guy makes Spiro Agnew look good.

    • jarheadgene

      OH NO !!!! IT’s MR. BILL. I knew it was a matter of time before you chimed in on this one. Good for you, sit back and read and learn….OMG is getting “SCHOOLED” here today.
      Unless you want to get thrown to the lions….sit down shut up listen and learn. And by the way….ROMNEY is the new Nixon. When all is said and done he can produce 18 minutes of dead air tape.

  • I didn’t read the remarks made by vice president Biden as having racial overtones. He is merely pointing out a reality that us in the middle class are experiencing. We always end up with the wrong end of the stick in these situations. Hector

  • We have a history of our family serving in the military, we have been married 30 years and have worked 35 years, raised 4 children, who are all working and paying taxes, its simple, which party fights for minim um wages hikes, affordable health care for all Americans, job training, SSI, women s wrights, EEOC, every thing that addresses {We the People} and the needs of common Americans who have worked there whole lifes, and served in the military, Its sure not the republicans, please show me a republican who has stood his ground for any body but himself politically, We have republicans in our family, so do not go there, show me a Republican president who has not put big money first, I know, the fact is to be elected as a republican you really can not care about your neighbor, because for you wont to get rich are stay rich, you will support lowering is pay, cutting his retirement, robbing his 401, cutting his family medical, or just buy the company and send it over sees. But the truth is from us the pickings are getting slim

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    The GOP doesn’t have answers. This is why they sideline the real issues. No President Republican or Democrat could have done what President Obama has and in record time…clean up the mess the GOP now totally ignores is THEIR and ONLY THEIR fault. They had 8 years to avert the Great Recession we are now having to struggle to be released from. They had 8 years to do something, anything about the crisis healthcare had been and worsened by 2008…What’s their excuse?

    RoMONEY NO MONEY’s policies would only serve to deepen this recession because his policies are entirely predicated upon using the majority Middle Class to shore up Wall Street. This and ONLY this is why he and Ryan are so hot to privatize healthcare and SS.

    In their needlebrained minds, Wall Street is the Government and therefore the only ruling class that matters. So the present SS surplus of $16 trillion to them is a huge waste because they want it used for high risk investments.

    This is exactly what caused the Great Depression…Hoover and his henchmen Republican con men creating overspeculation by creating a feeding frenzy of reckless investments.

    All any savvy Americans need to remember is this: SS has not crashed in 75 years. It IS the best investment because its the SAFEST. Put you money in those RoMONEY and Ryan private investments for your retirements and you are at the mercy of Wall Street…just like all of those 401Ks now have become.

    • jarheadgene

      That, and they know that when the “sh*t hits the fan” they will seek government bailouts in less than ONE of DICK CHENEY’s heartbeats. Willard (mitt) already used the FDIC. To bail his BAIN Corp. out from bankruptcy. And before you wannabe plutocrats jump all over me by saying…”The FDIC is an insurance.” I say ….”who runs hit, who funds it, who guarantees it ?” I’ll GIVE YOU GUESS.

  • Phoney outrage is one mark of the Romney campaign. Hypocrites on parade.

  • Just more Election Year “mud-slinging”. Next thing we know, one party will be accusing the other of calling black people “Negroes”, while the other party uses the term “African American”.

    Using the terms “chains” and “shackles” are just an extension of this issue. Two different words, with the same definition.

    Ask yourself: Is there really any difference between a “Negroe”, and an “African American”?
    BOTH phrases refer to those whose ancesters came from Africa.

    Same thing, with “chains”, and “shackles”. Both are loud, heavy, and cumbersome. Both serve the same function. To restrain, or protect.

  • They must think we, the American people, are stupid, we know Joe Biden did not mean anything racist,I have said many times in my life I feel chained to this job,or my wife the ball and chain{sorry honey}, give us credit for being smarter then that.

    • TheOldNorthChurch

      We do know something – anytime Joe Speaks just laugh! He is the funniest guy in politics today.

  • CPANY

    ObozoMustGo:

    I’m not sure what “voting in tyranny” is supposed to mean and I’m pretty sure that you don’t either. If one can vote, then how is one living in tyranny? Your pseudo intellectual comment doesn’t make much sense, but then a lot of what you write doesn’t make much sense.

    I notice from the replies to your comments that you seem to be in the minority. I’m not surprised. Extremists general don’t evoke much sympathy.

    I have a request: Knock off the “Have a nice day drivel.” It’s pathetic sarcasm.

  • highpckts

    Well damn, if you pay for everything, I’m surprised you have any money left to buy a computer to spread your lies!!

  • highpckts

    Where were you when Bush was in office?? Busy paying for everything we have? You are a joke!!

  • highpckts

    You can spout all the “facts” you want. Lord knows where you get them, probably from Fox and Limbaugh ( the God of knowledge) but for myself I will take the highroad and vote for the current President!!

  • highpckts

    If you couldn’t call everyone names you would have nothing to say!! So typical!!

  • the GOP is so insane put all of them in a mental ward and lock the door and keep them in there for ever

    • Churchlady320

      That, sad to say, is how they view us. It’s past time for us to stop arguing against them the way they do us. I’m not saying kumbayah – but we DO have to stop dehumanizing all of them. We need to start changing their views! We have not done the work it takes to alter their perspective on the world – and the LGBT community, as an example, has done a LOT to change people by the work they have done. We must do the same.

  • highpckts

    Again, go to Hell!!

  • Vice President Biden’s reference to “chains” was quite mild compared to what is in the U.S.Constitution Amendement 13. though the amendment abolished slavery on one hand, the “exception” wedged in the middle of the amendment “except as a punishment for crime whereof a party is duly convicted”, nullifies the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments, all Reconstructive laws to protect the rights and equality of freed people. As soon as the amendment was issued, freed people were unjustifiably arrested under vagrancy, no documentation, cleanliness, and decency laws, convicted, and true to the “exception” were placed back into a worse form of slavery than the one they were freed from, some never to be seen again. Therefore, slavery has never been abolished, and is left open-ended for States, having State’s rights, to place the descendants of freed people back into slavery. If slavery has been abolished, why has the “exception” remained in the law for 146 years without being removed? Why has it taken two Civil Rights Bills, one in 1876, and another in 1965, to enforce the rights and equality of freed peoples and their descendants in these so-called democratic and fair United States? Many people are under the assumption that the “exception” is primarily for those convicted of crimes in prison, but to the contrary it has been used to manipulate a whole people into criminality by deprivation, disadvantage, disparagement, and discrimination for 146 years! Who are the most impacted people, the most unfairlly treated, the most profiled and arrested people, the majority of those incarcerated in the prison industrial complex/plantation in America? As I write this, Africans in America are being manipulated, manuevered, and classified as a criminally inclined class of people in America,profiled as untrustworthy and suspect, which is the reason of much of the tertiary treatment directed at them by Republicans, the Tea Party, and white supremacists on a whole. So, V.P. Biden was being quite mild when he said what he said. If it weren’t true, look at the amendments for yourself and you be the judge.

    • Churchlady320

      Fascinating though deeply troubling insight. Thank you so much! It calls on Americans to review the “New Jim Crow” laws of permanent servitude in prisons which have been overwhelmingly directed against people – males mostly – of color. With falsified evidence, with perjured testimony, with lies under color of authority – we are accomplishing precisely what you point out. Genocide was not the goal of plantation slavery – human bodies had real material value – but it well may be the goal of this new prison complex and LWOP laws so hideously imposed on our youth of color. Thank you for saying this. I have to agree with you.

      • Churchlady320, not only that, look at the manipulation of the descendants of freed people and how guns and drugs are always placed in the poorest communities first. Look at the destruction of the family unit in communities of Africans in America. Look at the dismantling of the educational systems and the marginalization of HBCUs. It creates a class of people where desperation to feed their families and themselves pushes thrm to the brink where you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t. It all leads to the prison industrial complex/plantation where you are sentenced to “hard labor”, meaning slavery. Once you have been to prison, you are given no alternative at rehabilitation, no chances at a liveable wage becuase of a criminal record, no chance for credit or an affordable housing, and it leads them back to recidivism: slavery. Slavery has never ended in America as long as that “exception” is wedged in the 13th amendment, and America will never be able to redeem herself of her past sins against humanity. Contact your Congressman and ask why that “exception” is still in the 13th amendment and he/she will flee from you. For some reason, nobody wants to touch this, but I will keep hitting at it until I see it removed. Thank you.

        • Churchlady320

          I think what you are saying is very powerful. It is one reason the mainline Protestant denominations nationally are turning eyes on issues of “restorative justice” that seek several things, one of which is ending this “New Jim Crow” – or, as you note, slavery. There are Congressional folks dealing with it, and, maybe more important, citizens from all walks agreeing with you and fighting the injustices. In CA the challenge to “Three Strikes” is gaining ground in all populations as we have to own up to the perpetuation of racism and injustice in the new slavery of our prison system.

          Nothing changes quickly, but we won’t stop. We won’t stop with our concern for guns and drugs as well. Some of this HAS to come from men within the communities – men who teach younger men not to allow themselves to be enslaved by guns, drugs, and money that all just front for white banks and power brokers they don’t see. Do I – middle class white woman – think drugs and guns were accidents? I do not. The British perpetuated opium in China to control the populace. We’ve done the same in our own cities – they are effectively marginalized. It will take all of us everywhere to end this. Thank you Mr. Robertson, for having the strength to call it out. You are NOT alone.

  • onedonewong

    The “what he meant” or “others have done it” state run media is in full excuse mode once again. You would think they would get tired of carrying barak and biteeme’s water.
    Poor old joe and barak they were born with both feet in their mouths and have never learned how to remove them

    • Churchlady320

      We have a state run media? Wow – who knew.

      And it’s really funny how when you watch full news clips the president and vice-president never actually say what the RW pundits claim they said. It seems very odd that ONLY conservatives seem to hear things that are never said, never there, never done.

      • onedonewong

        Obviously you have been comatose since 1990.

        And when you watch the actual clips not the ones edited by the state run media there is no question that they said what they said
        Are you contending that Joe Biteeme didn’t say chains or that barak didn’t say the private sector is doing fine or that you didn’t build it???? If so better make an appointment at EENT doc you have some serious health issues

        • Churchlady320

          LOL!!!!

  • S-3

    No remorse for those willing to believe the fascists that are Romney-Ryan and those who openly follow them for me will be expected if we enter a 2nd Great Depression because of them. Only my bullets unloaded on your asses and those responsible…

  • t

    Romney is a racist, a bigot and if he could, he would put the blackies back where he knows they belong in chains or at least the back of the bus.

  • TROLLS DON’T Have Friends LOL!!! Over 2250 Comments And Only 686 Likes LOL Trolls Don’t Have Friends And If I Had That Score I Would STFU!!! LOL

  • How in the Hell can anyone with half a brain make that statement into playing a ( race card? ) Well we can see what kind of mentality is voting for the other guy.

  • one would only have to go back 4 years to see the result of unshackling the financial industry from regulations. i do not remember how many billions were required to stabilize
    that industry and how many billions were lost in pension money All the result of deregulation by the administration of former President Busch
    It may be acceptable to make a mistake once to repeat that mistake in unforgiven

  • HJB

    Obama and Biden are both talking down to you and taking you for granted for your vote. Neither has done anything for you to earn your vote. What have they done to upgrade your financial and social standing? Why are black Americans unemployment higher now than when they took office in 2008? President Obama has enacted an illegal immigration policy that’s enhancing illegal immigrants to apply for education financial aid and jobs. Again, what has he done to benefit black Americans? When has our president even visited a black neighborhood? If he is the president for all Americans, why is President Obama helping immigrants who have come across our borders illegally over the American citizens which include the blacks?