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Thursday, September 29, 2016

Two months after Congress blocked the expansion of gun sale background checks — on what President Barack Obama denounced as “a shameful day for Washington” — Vice President Joe Biden insisted that “we have not given up” on passing new laws to reduce gun violence in America.

Speaking from the White House, Biden reported that the administration has made significant progress on gun reform. Specifically, he noted that 21 of the 23 executive orders aimed at reducing gun violence that President Obama signed in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting “have been completed, or there has been major progress made towards their total completion.” The vice president singled out executive orders strengthening the existing background check system, providing schools with updated emergency management plans, and easing restrictions on the Centers for Disease Control’s research as major steps forward.

“The president and I are a team, we have not given up,” Biden insisted. “Our friends in the House and Senate, they have not given up.”

Still, Biden acknowledged that these unilateral actions won’t be enough.

“We need Congress to act. The American people are demanding it,” Biden said. “We need to make sure that the voices of the ones we lost are the loudest ones we hear in this fight.”

After slamming the “perverted filibuster rule requiring 60 votes in the Senate” for killing the background check bill, Biden predicted that some senators would reconsider their positions in the face of public pressure. Without directly naming them, Biden pointed to senators Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), Mark Begich (D-AK), and others whose approval ratings have plunged since voting to oppose background checks.

“I know for a fact some of them wonder now if that was a prudent vote,” Biden said.

“The country has changed,” the vice president added. “You will pay a price, a political price, for not getting engaged and dealing with gun safety.”

Biden has often served as the face of the Obama administration’s gun reform push; the vice president led the task force that recommended the executive orders to President Obama, and has given several high-profile speeches attempting to move the issue forward.

Vice President Biden’s full speech can be seen here.

  • bikejedi

    Obama Biden and every Liberal Progressive Communist Socialist that endorses this should be made to be moved to the Englewood Community of the Liberal Utopia once known as Chicago . they should be made to do that without all of their armed security …Call you up in 24 hrs and see if you changed you mind K

    • highpckts

      Well there are a LOT of Progressive Communist Socialist out there so don’t hold your breathe about anyone moving!! You seem to be really familiar with the label ” Communist Socialist”! Maybe you better look up the true definition!!

      • SibyllasStuff

        Citizens of Australia who were coerced into turning in their guns etc. now find themselves at the mercy of those who did not. Criminals and crooks will NOT register or turn in their guns. So why should someone who chooses to protect themselves. Oh yes, we’ll dial 911 and eventually someone will come to your rescue.

        • AMADAL

          No aspect of the gun control laws requires turning in ANY of your guns or requires a national gun registry. That is nothing more than gun loveing Repuklican propiganda. Educate yourself and become a thinking citizen instead if an ignorant sheep.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Amen!!! You Got That Right My Friend These People Are So Stupid It’s Sicking!!! 🙁

          • bikejedi

            Look several Dems like Fienstein have already stated that the ultimate goal is for total disarmament of the citizenry . Why don’t you believe your own rulers ? I personally don’t have any problem with a stricter mental health background check . Especially since that will exclude almost all Liberals . The other stuff about assault weapons bans is beyondstupid.com . the only difference between most of these rifles and a regular one s the way they look . they are functionally the same gun but try convincing Dem voters of that . And if you ask why do people need an assault weapon what kind of animal are you going to hunt with a 30 round clip I would answer .. 1 because they want one and 2 I wont be hunting but I would like to defend myself against the gang bangers , home invaders and rapist’s that Chicago’s Dems wont incarcerate and liberal judges give light sentences to ..

          • Fern Woodfork

            MOVE BITCH!!!

          • bikejedi

            Please do . I’m trying to save my city from the likes of you and your agenda . See , I’m kind of like Batman …And please stop swearing at people . You make the left look intolerant and ignorant …Oh never mind .

          • Fern Woodfork

            Batman LOL LMAO YOU SO FULL OF SHIT!! YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A LYING TEA BAGGING STALKER BITCH!! You Not Trying To Save Shit!!

          • bikejedi

            I’m Batman don’t be jealous MR. FREEZE get it MR .

          • Fern Woodfork

            Your Mother Is The Mr So Now You Thing All Female Are Mr!!! LOL Go Suck Your Mother Dick Bikerbitch!!!

          • bikejedi

            Fern , Would you please stop swearing incoherently at people ? Your intolerance and hate is tainting all of your Liberal friends by association . Once again let me point out , that you responded to me . You didn’t have to do that so it would appear that you are the one who is trolling It would also appear you are the one who is unhinged and irrational …

          • Fern Woodfork

            Go Fuck Your Self BITCH!!

        • bikejedi

          Yes and while you call 911 you will be getting mugged robbed raped and murdered . All these laws do is to take away rights and freedoms from law abiding citizens . This will do nothing to make us a safer society as Law abiding citizens aren’t the problem . The Dems and Liberals need to focus on getting the guns from their criminals in their cities and their nut jibs across the country . These are the people creating the problem . All of these laws they are proposing will only take away the ability of law abiding citizens to defend themselves

        • Leucothea

          Citizens of Australia now find themselves ‘at the mercy of’ some of the lowest gun-death rates per capita in the civilized world.

      • bikejedi

        I know the difference, the meanings , both literal and non literal , and I was just going for extra effect .

    • stcroixcarp

      bikejedi, honey, name calling and ranting takes away from rational dialog. You come off sounding like an angry troll. Do your research and come up with a logical well thought out thesis and you may be able to get people to think about their emotional knee jerk opinions, instead of turning you off and insulting you back.

      • bikejedi

        stcroixcrap …Honey , I used the same terminology that Chicago’s Liberal Progressive Communists use to describe themselves . As ex law enforcement in a city that doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to put criminals away , I know the subject matter inside out . Instead of telling other people to do their research while you just irrationally blast them why don’t you try to do the same thing you suggest . That would be do some research and put a coherent thought out there . I am not here to do a thesis by the way . This isn’t college , this is real life and as I pointed out , I used all those terms for two reasons . 1 was for effect , and 2 was because those are the terms Chicago’s Liberals use , so I didn’t want to leave any of you out . See , I’m being inclusive .

        • Fern Woodfork

          MOVE BITCH!!!

  • Leucothea

    Gun deaths 2011 – US : 31,000+; UK : 51; Japan : 2

    • bikejedi

      Why don’t you look up murder rates per capita and violent crimes per capita …Oh but that wont fit your dialogue . Or you can compare Chicago which has enjoyed a gun ban for over 30 years and currently has the toughest gun laws in the Nation while being in the only state that doesn’t allow for CCW …oh that’s right they have the highest murder rate with guns in America .

      • Leucothea

        Try checking facts before you rant:

        http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2012/12/geography-us-gun-violence/4171/

        And as for the ‘Chicago has the toughest gun laws in the nation’ line, that is getting very very old. Boring. No-one is listening to that any more – if you want to get some attention for your opinions use cogent arguments based on fact. (Chicago’s problem is in good part that none of the surrounding regions/states has effective gun control, so, of course, people go the half dozen miles or so to where you can get whatever you want. In fact Chicago is the perfect argument *for* universal gun control. Both the international and the internal US figures show that stricter gun control leads to lower gun death rates (of all kinds).

        • bikejedi

          So what you are saying is that liberals aren’t interested in the truth ? Because that’s what it is . That argument about the surrounding states is moot because they are allowed to have more sane laws and do so . Those State enjoy much lower crime rates also . And your hypothesis of Chicago being the perfect argument for gun control is so laughable it doesn’t even warrant a response . Ask anyone who lives here .

          • Leucothea

            Well, then I guess we just have to beg to differ. I understand from one of your other posts that you worked in law enforcement – for that you have my unqualified admiration and respect. And I am not attempting to diminish your work and your experience when I observe that – so far as I can see, at any rate – the facts (that is as regards the best long-term policies to pursue for our collective and general good) seem to point in a different direction from what you conclude. I have lived in this country for a long time, but I was brought up in the UK and I have lived in Europe, and I have to say that most Europeans look at what’s going on in the US today with great sadness, and perplexity. There’s a degree of anarchy, and level of deep-set violence, in US society that at times looks, in some respects, to be a kind of collective madness. And – by the way – this is not a simple matter of political affiliation or predilection (‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’, or whatever).

          • bikejedi

            While I don’t care too much for what most of those Euro’s think ..You seem reasonable yourself . Thank You

    • Elisabeth Gordon

      When Somalia is the only place on the planet with more gun deaths than USA, one would think that the gun worshippers would wake up and understand that we NEED reform…but, I won’t hold my breath….

      • bikejedi

        Where ever you got that from must be a joke . Most of the Countries that have gun bans have much higher murder rates per capita then country’s where law abiding citizens can have guns .

  • Fern Woodfork

    Since Control Has Nothing To Do With Taking Away Nobody Guns The People Who’s Against It Is Most Likely Profiting From All The Guns That Are Here In America!! Aim, Cripple Or Kill Just To Make Another Buck!! 🙁

    • mike

      Such Baloney!!! Gun control has everything to do with it. Fear of this govt. is the main reason for rise in gun sales. Since 1993 the total deaths from guns has dropped from 39,595 in 1993 to 31,672 in 2010 and homicides and dropped 18k to 11k, Suicides(6.3 per 100,000) have not dropped to the degree that homicides(3.6 per 100,000).

      Suicide deaths are greater that homicide deaths between age 41 to 64 and 65 and older.

      GUN HOMICIDE RATE DOWN 49% SINCE 1993– NOT UP!!!

      Black homicide were 55% of deaths compared to their 13% of population, whites 25% of deaths and their 73% of population and Hispanics 17% of deaths and their 16% of population. Pew research.

      • Fern Woodfork

        If You Numb Nuts Are So Afraid Of The Government That Get Your Shit And MOVE!!! We Sure In The Hell Wont Miss Your Ass!! MOVE!!!

        • bikejedi

          I have a better Idea…why don’t you move Fern ? After all we grew up in a free America and like it that way . We don’t want a Communist Dictatorship . Since that is what you want why don’t you pick from any of the 3rd world Socialist nations or failed Communist nations instead of trying to make America into one . What you people want exists all over the world and all of these Countries look like Detroit .

          • Fern Woodfork

            FUCK YOU BIKERBITCH!!!! I Love My City And I Love My Job How About You Go Suck Some More Dicks To Earn Your Keep BITCH!!!

          • mike

            Real Class!!! Everything is MOVE with you, we are staying to save this country from being destroy and bankrupt with the likes of you.
            Typical of the left, when they don’t have an answer they resort to name calling and go all EMOTIONAL. LOL
            See you later, Garbage Mouth.

          • Fern Woodfork

            SUCK BIKERBITCH PUSSY AND STFU TALKING TO ME TROLL!!

          • mike

            You are more than just funny. You are a lunatic!!!! You are a Garbage Mouth Troll. The only thing spewing from your mouth is diarrhea. I guess the phrase “shit for brains” was meant for you.

            Looks like Obama is looking less attractive everyday. Poll numbers dropping, people no longer trust him and his administration. OMG!!! Maybe you will want to MOVE. Now that is funny!!!!

          • Fern Woodfork

            Fuck You Little Pussy Ass BITCH GO SUCK YOUR MOTHER DICK!!!

          • bikejedi

            I never said I don’t love the City I live in and grew up in . I don’t however like what the Dems have done to it and are continuing to do to it . The Gun Ban has proven an abject failure Fern and I’m betting that you probably don’t live in a good area so you should agree . The rest of your swearing rant is just your own Hate Fern . How do the gay Liberals out there feel about Fern disparaging Gays ?

          • Fern Woodfork

            FUCK YOU YOU JUST ALWAYS FIND SOME WAY TO TALK TO ME I DON’T WANT YOUR PUSSY ASS LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE BIKERBITCH!!! GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!

          • bikejedi

            Fern I didn’t ask you to comment on what I posted YOU decided to do that . Are you off your meds or something ? Why don’t you just stop embarrassing yourself and everyone on the left . Even they are getting tired of all of your intolerance hate and swearing

          • Fern Woodfork

            FUCK YOU YOU DICK SUCKING LYING BITCH!! STOP TALKING TO ME BITCH!!

          • bikejedi

            Fern as I pointed out it is you that is talking to me . You see when you post something and another person responds they are the ones who are talking to you …got it ? If not ask one of your Conservative friends to explain it to you .

          • Fern Woodfork

            Fuck You Troll!!!

          • mike

            Cubs or Sox???

          • bikejedi

            Cubs even though they suck . Wrigley is a great thing lots of single ladies rooftops too so even when the Cubs suck it is still fun

          • Fern Woodfork

            You The One Who Sucks MOVE BITCH!!

          • mike

            Do you know the name of the park before Wrigley Field? If so, then that is my grandfather.

          • bikejedi

            Why yes I do ..I am a real Cubs

          • Fern Woodfork

            You Know You Are One Lying Ass Bitch!!! FUCK YOU!!

        • mike

          My God you are funny!!!!!

          Tell you what my little maven, prove me wrong on the numbers.

          No, it is less govt., less regulations, less money out of our pockets, less is better.

          You truly are drinking the Kool-Aid.
          You really are one of the “Uns”-unintelligent, uninformed, unenlightened, and uneducated and unmotivated to get the facts.
          And a JOKE!!!!

          • bikejedi

            You find Fern to be void of any thought other then to swear at the people she doesn’t agree with

          • Fern Woodfork

            FUCK YOU TOO BOTH YOU NASTY WHORES CAN SUCK A DEAD MAN DICK!! BITCHES!!!

          • Fern Woodfork

            FUCK YOU LITTLE PUSSY ASS BITCH!!

          • mike

            How long have you been working on the gender change??

          • Fern Woodfork

            YOUR MOTHER YOU COCK SUCKING PUSSY ASS BITCH!!!

          • mike

            Nice try, mental midget with a garbage mouth.
            LOL!!!!!

          • Fern Woodfork

            LITTLE PUSSY ASS BITCH FUCK YOU!! YOUR MOTHER YOU COCK EYED BITCH!!

      • bikejedi

        Well stated Mike . and the fact it comes from the Liberal PEW research takes away all the arguments . When you look at what they want to do nationally and realize there is already a non working model of it in what was once Chicago it really takes the steam and starch out of any of that sides arguments .

        • Fern Woodfork

          FUCK BOTH YOU PUSSY ASS BITCHES!!!

    • bikejedi

      Fern you can’t form a proper sentence or spell and you want people to think you are smart ? What I stated is the truth in Chicago where you claim to live . I live there myself and know it well .

      • Fern Woodfork

        I KNOW JUST WHAT I”M DOING BITCH MAYBE IF YOU HAD A REAL JOB BESIDES SUCKING ASSES AND DICKS YOU WOULDN’T BE SO WORRIED ABOUT ME BIKERBITCH!!! FUCK YOU!!

        • bikejedi

          Fern please don’t post , you only embarrass yourself and everyone on the left with your rudeness and intolerance .

          • Fern Woodfork

            FUCK YOU BITCH KISS MIKE’S PUSSY!

  • Jim Myers

    31,000.

    On 9/11/2001, less than 15% of that number lost their lives to terrorists. We started two wars, and spend Trillions of Dollars to “avenge” those deaths.

    How much do we spend to avenge the deaths of our own citizens, caused by all the “Rambo’s” and cowards, who have a few hundred, or a few thousand dollars to spend on these Weapons Of Mass Destruction?

    • bikejedi

      Your post makes no sense .

      • Fern Woodfork

        It’s Your Dumb Ass That’s Not Making Any Sense BITCH !! Why In The Hell Are You Here!! Dick Sucking STALKER!!

        • bikejedi

          I was replying to Mr. Myers because I would like to understand what he was trying to convey . I was not speaking to you Fern and your swearing rants make you look ignorant

          • Jim Myers

            My point was that gun control will not stop the violence that we are facing.

            It could , however reduce the level of increased violence that is occurring with the the sale of more and more semi-automatic rifles, handguns and high capacity magazines.

            It is also noteworthy that the majority of law enforcement officials are siding with the majority of Americans to pass legislation regarding gun control.

            We, as a nation, were willing to spend Trillions of Dollars to avenge the slaughter of those who died on 9-11.

            However, we effectively ignore the loss of tens of thousands of citizens every year,while we bicker over the rights of gun owners verses the right of children to go to school without being slaughtered for no reason other than being in the right place at the wrong time.

            I am not someone who is trying to be a do-gooder at the expense of others. However, I am someone who saw what those weapons are capable of doing to the human body.

            Some of those I saw still visit me from time to time. Unwelcome guests that I wish I could forget.

            How much are we willing to spend to allow this to continue? How many more lives?

          • option31

            Jim you are right that “law enforcement officials” support gun control. These “officials” are political appointees that know who writes their checks. They do what they are told by their political bosses. The rank and file cop on the beat does not. They know guns prevent crime. This is the dirty little secret when this LEO’s support gun control comes up. Instead of talking to the political appointees that are nothing more than waterboys for the politicians talk to the cop on the street. So far this year their have been approximately 6000 homocides – a far cry from the 10’s of thousand routinely cited by gun prohibitionists. On the other hand 1.1 million guns were used for self protection in that same time frame. Their are estimates that their are 300 million guns in the US, if we extrapolate the numbers for a year we have 12000 homocides with 300 million firearms, that works out to 0.004% used in homocides. On the other hand An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially
            preventable, in-hospital medical errors in each of the years 2000, 2001
            and 2002. So you are far more likely to get killed by your doctor / healthcare provider than a firearm.

          • bikejedi

            I can agree with some of that . Thank you for clarifying

          • CPAinNewYork

            Glad to see someone else shares my low opinion of Fern.

          • bikejedi

            Fern is a great voice on the left . Her comments usually start out by blaming the GOP…. calling them names and agreeing with one of her better informed friends . She is NEVER factual and wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked her in the face . Her only sources seem to be Liberal Pundits who are failed comedians . People like the intolerant Misogynist Moron Bill Maher and Ignorant Joy Behar . She NEVER has her position right and if you ask her about it she just starts swearing at you and being intolerant . She then will start with the ugly gay references . I wonder how her Gay liberal friends feel about her intolerance and hate of that group . I am willing to bet that the other lefty’s wish she would go away because she just embarrasses them

  • bikejedi

    Background checks might be a good Idea . I know , why doesn’t Obama show some leadership for once and volunteer to show us how that might work . He can be the first one to submit for a Background check …think it would fly then ? Or maybe he can do background checks on all of the Syrian rebels he wants to arm as most of them are Al Qaeda . Then maybe he can get Eric Holder to do checks on all the Cartel members that he ran assault weapons to . Sweet

  • option31

    Well looks like the Brits have seen the errors of their ways. According to a poll carried out by the UK newspaper, The Telegraph, British citizens apparently want their guns back. In a online poll ( yes I realize they can be / are slanted ) 85.88% want their gun laws repealed. While Britain does not have as many murders as the US they do have a soaring one on one crime rate.

    • CPAinNewYork

      The soaring British crime rate may be due to the soaring number of Muslims in Britain. Letting that crap into your country is just a bad idea. They’re a miserable people who hate everything.