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Thursday, October 27, 2016

WATCH: McCain Angrily Teaches Fox & Friends About Islam

One of the most enduring (and offensive) myths about Islam — that Muslims worship “a different God” from people of other religions — was finally vociferously challenged on Fox & Friends.

By a conservative.

Senator John McCain (R-AZ) appeared on the morning zoo to discuss the situation in Syria, when a video clip of a rebel fighter saying “Allahu Akbar!” was shown. F&F co-buffoon Brian Kilmeade started spouting his trademark ignorance, exclaiming, “I have a problem helping those people screaming that after a hit!” The swift — and stern — response from the senator clearly wasn’t what the Fox puppet expected:

You have a problem with that? Would you have a problem with an American Christian saying ‘thank God, thank God’? That’s what they’re saying. Come on. Of course they’re Muslims, but they’re moderates and I guarantee you that they are moderates. I know them and I’ve been with them. For someone to say ‘Allahu Akbar’ is about as offensive as someone saying ‘thank God.’

As any marginally educated adult knows, “Allah” is simply the Arabic word for God. If you can comprehend that concept when it comes to the word “Yahweh,” this shouldn’t be an intellectual stretch. And guess what? SAME EXACT GOD IN BOTH INSTANCES.

But the similarities don’t stop there. Islam is an Abrahamic faith — same as Christianity and Judaism. The Virgin Mary is revered in the Islamic faith. And which prophet of Islam is “the Messiah” who will return to Earth on Judgment Day to defeat the Antichrist?

That would be Jesus Christ.

Watch John McCain take Kilmeade out to the woodshed below, courtesy of Talking Points Memo:

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  • tdm3624

    It’s about time moderate Republicans started educating the Tea Party. Nice job Mr. McCain.

  • Liekiller

    McCain is NOT a conservative. An how reliable is he when he plays games on his iPhone when he’s supposed to be hearing arguments for and against acting against Syria. What a derp.

  • Dominick Vila

    One of our greatest problems is the fact that we refuse to differentiate between members of the Islamic religion, and the religious fundamentalists that engage in terrorist acts. The latter don’t carry out their crimes because Islam endorses their actions, but because their convictions are based on a mixture of Islamic fervor, Marxism, Fascism and overt nihilism inconsistent with the teachings of the prophets they claim to venerate, including Jesus Christ.

  • JDavidS

    I’ve always said that I have no problem with Senator McCain. Unlike the vast majority of “chicken” hawks, McCain has “walked the walk”. He’s put his ass on the line, while those gutless assholes are only willing to put someone elses’ ass on the line. They beat the war drums and rattle their sabres and whip their ill-informed followers into a frenzy with half-truths, propaganda that would embarrass Goebbels, ignorance and flat-out lies. And usually leading this charge of lunacy? Faux Noise.

  • 1olderbutwiser1

    This is more than anything else, an age of extremists. Look at the whole situation. The wealthy have always gotten even more wealthy with a “justifiable” war…which is what Syria represents. Without simple actual handouts such as SSI where people are rewarded with a check for being stupid and lazy, the economy is now falling into an abyss. The solution now as before in history is war….preferably a world war where every fiber of mans’ existence is tested to the extreme for the “better good”. I can see how Syria will become the catalyst for the continuation of wealth transfer and escape from poverty for a new generation of buttonpushers who grow up playing war games on playstations. Hence, a change in our current military aspect of our country. I see a series of events culminating in the re-institution of a military draft, and massive killings of the more unfortunate. There will be escape clauses for the more mentally gifted and many lying cowards as there has always been. The richest will continue to build their nest egg to be ever larger on the backs of the “lesser” people. Realistically, man can advance to whatever the next stage of our societal evolution is to be, only when those of lesser mentality are forced to self-elimination is a “justifiable” endeavor thusly eliminating the cancer on productivity we currently have with dead wood sucking the life away from producers. One of the harsh realities of life.

    • RobertCHastings

      What a cynic, and so full of crap.

    • Allan Richardson

      So the child with muscular dystrophy born to poor parents, who subsequently loses one parent and gets SSI, is “stupid and lazy?”

  • howa4x

    The media loves to put people in boxes to make it easier for us to label them. The Islamic radical box or the evangelical one tend to simplify everything for us. No need to dig deeper since once a term like this is used then no need for further explanation. The truth is there are as many roads to God as there is souls of people. It’s always we are the true believers and righteous and they are not. Problem is of course they are saying the same thing. Hence this creates a world of mistrust with a lack of sensitivity and understanding. In that situation hatred, lies and bigotry flourish. We are all too busy to take the time to realize that most people are just like us. They want a better life or at least to be left alone. We all need to stop finger pointing and open our ears, and minds. If we don’t missiles and rockets will continue to fly

    • Allan Richardson

      A singer who performs in churches with rather liberal attitudes has a parody song about the extremists in our own faith (but it could apply to extremists of ANY faith), which includes the lines:
      We’ve prophesied the way true peace will come at last,
      When OUR loving God kicks YOUR loving God’s ***

  • RobertCHastings

    I find it simply amazing that ANY conservative, even John McCain, would have the guts to declare on the holiest of holies in the conservative cosmology that Muslims actually believe in the same God as Christians. He is still a maverick, God bless his soul.

    • Allan Richardson

      They DO believe in the same God as Jews and Christians. They just have different ideas about what that God said to them. The Koran tells Muslims to respect Jews and Christians as “people of the Book” and not to molest them (but not all Muslims pay attention to all of the Koran, just as not all Christians pay attention to the parts of the Bible where Jesus says to turn the other cheek and feed and clothe the poor). Mohammed began his spiritual quest by asking Jewish and Christian merchants about their faiths, feeling that his people should stop worshiping idols and abusing one another. Muslims regard Ishmael, the older brother of Isaac, as their spiritual ancestor, and his father Abraham as an early prophet of Allah. They revere, but do not worship, Jesus (Issa in Arabic), and consider him the greatest prophet besides Mohammed. The Koran describes a Last Judgement in which Jesus will testify that Christians were right to honor him as a prophet, but wrong to consider him another God. If the popes who launched the Crusades had actually READ the Koran, they would have made peace with the caliphs and sultans rather than invading their realm. Of course, these same popes persecuted Jews also, even though they read the Jewish Bible, so it may not have made a difference.

      The grievances of people in Islamic countries, which are used by terrorist groups to recruit support for their (anti-Christian and, in truth, anti-Muslim) extremist causes, are based on the BEHAVIOR of Church-led European states from the Crusades to the present, including the Spanish Inquisition which followed the Reconquista in 1492, and the “colonization” of Muslim lands beginning with Napoleon and the British. Betraying Col. Lawrence’s promise of a united Arab homeland with the Treaty of Versailles didn’t help either. And Zionism, which to the Arabs appeared more like a European invasion than a reunion between Semitic cousins (most of the early Zionist settlers were secularized European Jews, having the same culture as those who later THOUGHT they could pass as Aryan during the Holocaust), was made more bitter in their eyes because of the failure to put Arabs in charge of an Arab state in the rest of the Middle East. If the Zionists had come to an Arab leader and asked politely for a little strip along the sea where they could live peacefully and practice their faith, even THAT conflict might have been avoided. It will, unfortunately, be a long time before the bad feelings of Arabs (which includes Christian Arabs as well as Muslims, incidentally) are resolved. Note that when President Bush first spoke against the 9/11 terrorists, and he used the word “crusade,” which in Christian-heritage nations has come to mean simply any “movement to do something good,” the Muslim world reacted to that word, which to them STILL means “the invasion of our lands by Christian murderers,” with great offense.

      Our defense against terrorist attacks, whether Muslim, Christian, Neo-Nazi, or something else, is necessary, but aggression against nations where those terrorists have their bases is touchy. Offend too many good and fair-minded people in the process of chasing terrorists, and we turn good and fair-minded people INTO more terrorists than we kill.

      By the way, I hope you were speaking metaphorically about Fox News as the “holiest of holies.” I have gotten the impression that conservatives, even conservative Christians, sometimes act as if they WORSHIP the right wing opinion makers more than God.

      • RobertCHastings

        Very interesting and compelling analysis. I hope others on this side read it and take it to heart. Has this been acquired over time, or do you have a recent source that you have been using? I have recently read “My [email protected]” by Amir Ahmad Nasr, an activist blogger in the Arab Spring Movement whose narrative was, also, quite compelling. I feel that the more we know about our Muslim kindred, the less we will demonize and dehumanize them. When our “enemies” assume flesh, they become people, and people are much harder to hate than demons.
        I feel our incursion into Libya and its resulting chaos exposed the weakness you speak of. We had no idea what or who would replace Ghadaffi, just as we have had very little control over the events in Egypt. We are and have been out of the loop in Syria and Iran. Syria, being a Cold War ally of the USSR, still maintains close ties with the greatly degraded Russia, while our foolish actions in Iranian politics over the past fifty years have alienated that country, and many Muslims in the region.
        However, many Muslims, as evidenced by the Arab Spring, want their governments back from the fundamentalists who have destroyed Islam, and are keeping the entire region from moving into the 21st century. With our help, THESE people can rebuild the Middle East into a more hospitable region, for people of all faiths.

        • Allan Richardson

          I have acquired these facts and insights over many years. It may surprise many Americans to know that 19th century Zionism was started by educated secular Jews in Europe, mostly in Germany, Austria and Poland. The first settlers angered Arabs because they were too European, not because they were Jewish and certainly because they were not Muslim (the various local Christian churches in Muslim lands coexisted with Muslims for centuries; in fact their status of “heretical” in the eyes of the Emperor in Constantinople was one reason they did not fight for the Empire). Since the Arabs in Palestine were mostly nomadic herders, they resented the fencing in of fields for agriculture, much as the Native Americans and later the cowboys on the great Chisholm trail resented carving up the open country into private homesteads. And these people claiming to be Jews dressed like French or Germans, and did not honor their own traditions, as the minority Jewish community who escaped Roman expulsion did. Even today, some of these “native Palestinian” Jews feel that the State of Israel is not legitimate because the Messiah has not come back to found it; they consider the King of Jordan to be their secular ruler. As a Gentile sympathetic to Jewish ideals, I can empathize with them, since the Israeli state has persecuted Palestinian Arabs in violation of the commandment in the Torah to treat kindly the strangers who dwell among you “for you were a stranger in the land of Egypt.” But I can also empathize with Israeli concerns. Perhaps if they relied upon faith in the God they share with Muslims and Christians, they would have more success in living in peace.
          Shalom, Salaam, Eirene, Pax, Peace!

          • RobertCHastings

            Knowledge such as you demonstrate leads to the wisdom our leaders must have in order to settle such issues as face Palestine and Israel. It is incumbent upon us to do that which we believe our Creator would wish of us and not color our knowledge with personal prejudices. By learning the TRUE history of the region, our leaders could make more reasonable decisions and take more reasonable actions.

    • borninmombasa

      It must have been that god that told them to kill all non believers :} Which god will bless his soul? He’s an infidel so I guessing it won’t be Allah?

  • SharonKT

    McCain is dangerously naive about Islam. For anyone who really wants to learn about and understand Islam and the threats it poses, check out: Unless of course, one is afraid of the truth.

    • borninmombasa

      We can’t handle the truth , in a nation of lies ,truth is often viewed as treason

    • jackoooo

      I learned everything I wanted to know about Islam on 9/11/01

      • SharonKT

        Roger that! I wish the rest of America had.

  • EternalBliss

    Mashallah! God is Great! God is the Real. God is Truth. God is All. All is God. God is One. ALL IS ONE! Now only if man would become One in the Way of Truth.

    O’ Mankind!
    What have you arranged?
    Your folly, surely deranged.
    For you have undone,
    That which is One.

  • EternalBliss

    The intoxication of individuality known as the ego… leads man to a lonely existence in the futile effort of promoting the false projection of one that is himself… all the while the distraction of this folly leaves him completely ignorant to what Is… One. Thus he dwells in duality, battered by the tides of conflict and suffering on the shores of separation. Annihilate the ego… remove all names within.. the Nameless awaits your arrival in Holy Union.

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