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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Republicans spent years demanding that the Senate pass a budget. Earlier this year they did, and now a handful of Tea Party senators — including Ted Cruz (R-TX), Mike Lee (R-UT) and Rand Paul (R-KY) — are preventing the Senate from doing what it should do next, go into conference with the House to come up with a budget. They’re afraid that if an actual budget comes out of that conference, it could be passed with a simple majority vote.

Basically, they’re demanding that 60-vote supermajority Senate Republicans decided to create when President Obama was elected, to make it more likely that American default on its debt — a disaster that would would make 2008’s financial crisis seem like a bad weekend in Vegas.

Why are these Republicans so scared? Cruz explained today: He doesn’t trust his fellow Republicans.

But he should really be more worried about his buddy Senator Paul who keeps using bad math, even though he’s been corrected.

Paul and Cruz have earned the ire of John McCain (R-AZ) before. You may remember he called them “wacko birds.”

But yesterday, McCain felt the need to explain to these senators how Congress worked before the Tea Party decided sabotage was a strategy.

Of course, the best irony of all is there would likely be no “wacko birds” in the Senate today if John McCain hadn’t made their hero Sarah Palin his VP choice.

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  • John Pigg

    It seems like Rand Paul has concerns that the Debt Ceiling will be raised and was using his time as a forum to highlight his opposition to that.

    In the video he even mentioned that he was not talking about just passing the budget but about his concerns that the DC would again be raised.

    Our congress has failed to come up with a long term bipartisan budget solution. But I think everyone regardless of Party ID knows that something has to be done. We don’t need a one year budget, we need a bipartisan long term budget strategy that will address the out of control deficit.

    We need to raise taxes and reduce spending both at the same time and both as soon as possible. But acting like the US does not have a budget problem is acting like a wacky bird in my opinion.

    • Tom_D44

      And, an even bigger message in Rand Paul’s very calm and very respectful response is that they are tired of the status quo in washington. The notion that a few elites, appoint a small group of people who make the decisions on behalf of all the rest of washington. Thank you for bringing some sanity to Washington even if it was only that tiny little message. Now do you think the media might sieze that notion or just ignore it altogether? Because the american people never hear this stuff.
      Oh, and thank you to the Memo for the wonderful spin on this story.

      • stcroixcarp

        Rand Paul IS one of the elites. He is a second generation government leach, just like his father. They complain about government spending but gladly take the salary, the travel perks, the government health insurance, and pensions.

        • Tom_D44

          Presume what you want about the man, but there is no question he is arguing against the status quo – even amoungst the ranks of his own party. You can question whether he is sincere and that will ultimately be the voters decision as to whether they buy it, but his argument is clear. The mounting debt is unsustainable and the future of it should not be in the hands of a few hand picked establishment politicians – republicans or democrats. Can we not agree on the message and stop the bull crap?
          It’s time for the transparency that Obama promised the American people. Its time for the corruption in washington to end. Its time for the cronyism to end – on both sides. And Obama is equally as guilty of this as the republicans. He is also an idealogue – albeit one that you agree with which is why you give him a pass.

          • Patsy Berryman

            Where were you, Tom, during the Bush Administration. He is the Wacko Bird that got us in this fix in the first place?. How many times was the debt ceiling raised during his administration?? Were you hollering then? Your hypocrisy is mind-boggling…

          • JDavidS

            And please don’t forget the 17 times it was raised under Saint Ronnie…Must be different when it’s done by a RepubliCON.

          • Tom_D44

            Patsy thanks for trying to put me in the box with all the other republicans you often just stereotype. You see as Americans I believe we are all individuals who agree on some points and disagree on others. People like you see us as either all in on one side or the other. Unfortunately, it is my opinion, based on his own words and how he has handled things, that our president looks at people the same way – you are either with him or the enemy and he has said that. The hypocrisy here is that people on this website generally accuse all republicans of being closed minded and stereotypical when they don’t support gay marriage all while making blanket statements about the evil intentions of all people who support the tea party. That is what is mind-boggling, not to mention ignorant, inconsiderate, and bigoted.
            I was not a Bush supporter, I didn’t care for his clumsy communication skills, I didn’t support much of the legislation he and the republicans proposed, I didn’t support his funny math when he intentionally left the costs of the war out of the budgets, and I didn’t support the war in Iraq from the first day. I also didn’t subscribe to the birther theories and other ridiculous things like that. I believe that the republicans are blowing some things out of proportion to play politics, but I believe that is also being done just as much by the democrats. That being said, I also don’t find myself agreeing with many of the viewpoints here on the Memo. I don’t believe that the healtcare law will save money and I do believe that it will cause costs to go up, I don’t believe that the deficits or the debt are irrelevant or that we can print our way out of this mess, I don’t believe that people who are in this country illegally should just stay, or that they somehow just deserve to stay, or that they should vote, or that they should receive healthcare benefits or welfare, I don’t believe that passing laws like gun control, just to say “we did something”, will make a difference in gun crime, I don’t believe that we should ignore Islamic extremism in the interest of political correctness and don’t believe that the President is somehow so uninformed by his administration about the Benghazi attack, the IRS situation, and the AP issues that he knew absolutely nothing. If that is true then he has got to be the worst CEO this country has ever had. But I think he is much much smarter than that.
            I started reading the Memo to open my mind to the other points of views on issues, so that I could try to understand for myself where the truth lies. Unfortunately I just see a lot of rage and anger on blogs like this. As a younger American I spent a lot of my time not really engaged in politics, but am now ever more aware of what is actually happening, I make decisions for myself, and I do my own research, and I look at it through the lenses of a person who was taught to be a respectful, law abiding, hard working person who accepts all people for who they are. I don’t care about race, and I don’t care about sexual orientation, and I don’t believe that the federal government should have anything to do with these issues. But I do believe they exploit them for power and money. I believe that big corporations have the capacity to do horrible things, but I also believe that the government, on both sides, can do even worse things – they manipulate people for power, they line their own pockets with money from our taxes and special interests, they vote themselves special benefits and salaries, and they play games with the law that people like us would never get away with. But I don’t see very many people on this website outraged with the politicians – unless they are republicans. People like you just undermine your credibility when you engage in debate by attacking people – but thanks for trying to stick me in your stereotypical republicon, teabagger, whatever box anyway.
            Since you brought up the debt ceiling here specifically, here is an interesting fact – When Bush and the republicans were in office, Senator Obama was on record screaming about the debt ceiling and actually called it irrisponsible to raise it back before he was president. Do you agree with his opinion back then or do you believe in his opinion today?

          • girl

            I may not agree with every point you make, or with your party in general, but you seem like a respectable republican (yes, they do exist). In the end, most of the average person’s goals and intentions are the same regardless of party affiliation, we just differ on exactly WHAT the problem is, how to correct it, and who is really on our side. Politics is frustrating because of this, and thats why republicans call democrats names and jump to straw man arguements and vice versa.

      • Respectful . . . sanity . . . you got to be kidding! Wacko Bird . . .

    • I wonder how Rand Paul would have reacted if he had been in Congress in the Reagan era, when the debt ceiling was raised 18 times…

      • Tom_D44

        Donimick, I have followed your posts over the past couple of years and you are generally a thoughtful, insightful, and well informed person on these topics – regardless of the side you pick to represent. Based on that, I would think you were above the “well the republicans did it too” argument. Come on! Don’t you think that times are a little different, today, than when Reagan was in office to make that analogy?

        • It certainly is different than it was During the Reagan Presidency. The Republicans passed budgets that raised the debt ceiling from ONE TRILLION DOLLARS TO THREE TRILLION DOLLARS during that time. And, the Democrats went along with it.

          Since then, the ideology from the Republicans was “DEFICITS DON’T MATTER.” (RE: Dick Cheney.)

          EXCEPT, when there is a Democrat in the White House.

          • Don’t forget what W said in response to a question about deficit spending and our debt: “IOUs…pieces of paper”.

      • John Pigg

        If your point is “the GOP is not an honest fiscally conservative Party” I would say that is valid. But also irrelevant to this conversation.

        Is Rand Paul right in this instance, do we need more transparency in regards to this budget deal? I do not know.

        But I don’t think his points were as stupid as they were written to be in the article. One does not have to look too far to find outrageous things uttered by the senators from the commonwealth of Kentucky. This however, does not seem to be one of them.

      • plc97477

        I think regugs in those days had better sense then.

  • The cynicism of radical ideologues like Cruz, Paul, and others should be apparent to anyone capable of rational thinking. These people, like most Tea Party supporters, are not interested in what is best for our country, their only priority is how to obstruct President Obama’s agenda, how to destroy social programs, and how to benefit their wealthy sponsors. The worst part is not what they say and do, but the fact that hundreds of thousands of Americans share their convictions and vote for them.

    • plc97477

      Lets hope they never do that.

  • JDavidS

    I applaud McCains’ stand, even though it was, like the article says, he, who by making a clueless simpleton his running mate, brought stupidity into vogue in American politics. That is not to say that stupidity didn’t exist in politics prior to Palin, just the she and her ilk have taken it to an art form.

  • Mark Forsyth

    Well, leave it to a dried up old turkey to know all about wacky birds.Comes very close to the pot calling the kettle black.

  • David Turrentine

    Hindsight is 20/20. I wonder if McCain has figured this out yet.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Who cares what the hell McCain has to say about anything? No one!

    Talk about wacky birds… look who Obozo is listening to in the White House.. The Muzzy Bro’hood!

    1) Arif Alikhan – Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security

    2) Mohammed Elibiary – Homeland Security Adviser

    3) Rashad Hussain – Special Envoy to the (OIC) Organization of the Islamic Conference

    4) Salam al-Marayati – Obama Adviser – founder Muslim Public Affairs Council and its current executive director

    5) Imam Mohamed Magid – Obama’s Sharia Czar – Islamic Society of North America

    6) Eboo Patel – Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships

    This is flat out scary!!!! The foxes are now living in the hen house… Now ask me why I am concerned!!! Now who do you think is the other Muslim in the White House, not shown here?

    Unfortunately, in addition to a probably excessive salary, we will now be paying them for all the benefits (no doubt, including retirement) that all Federal employees get.

    Have a nice day!

    “You are absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…” – Barack Hussein Obozo in an interview with George “Bucket Head” Snuffelupagos
    on ABC’s ‘This Week”, October 2008

    • metrognome3830

      OK, OMG, I’m going after you on this one. Get your facts together. And they had better be bulletproof. You do know, don’t you, that being a Muslim is OK? What’s not OK is being a radical Islamist terrorist. Now where is your absolute proof that these men are Islamic activists? Where is your proof that they are members/operatives of the Muslim Brotherhood? I can’t read the name of the organization at the bottom, but I’m sure they are a fine, upstanding source of honest and factual information. I know you wouldn’t use any other kind of source.
      Have a nice evening.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Metro… I know you don’t like some information because of the source, but the source is irrelevant so long as what is written is true and back up. The fact of the matter is that Obozo has been on a muzzy appeasing binge since he took office. He’s doing this because of the misguided belief that if all we do is be nice to muzzies, then they will like us. Nothing could be further from the truth. Not all, but a large percentage of the muzzie population are radicalized. And ignoring that fact to be politically correct is exactly what enabled the Boston terrrorist bombings, the Ft. Hood terrorist masssacre (which the Obozo regime still calls “work place violence”), and a host of other muzzy crimes that have been committed that don’t make the headlines. The fact that the Obozo regime has within its ranks members of the Muzzy Bro’hood, especially in high ranking security positions, is sickening. All you have to do is Google each of those names and you will come up plenty of information regarding their past and their associations. A great place for this is http://www.discoverthenetworks.org which lays out all the facts, cross linked and all. Further, you should do some homework on exactly who and what the Muslim Brotherhood is and what they say themselves are their goals. David Horowitz does a fantastic job of getting the facts together. Too many of you guys on the left are so worried about being politically correct that you stick your heads in the sand afraid to speak the truth. What we are seeing today with the infiltration of the Muzzy Brotherhood into every aspect of our government is the equivalent of us allowing the Nazis to infiltrate our government because we were afraid to appear to be discriminating against Germans in the 1930’s. It’s insane. These people are dangerous. Again, I’m not saying all muslims are radicalized. But I am saying that a sufficiently large amount of them are radicalized to the point that they intimidate the others and keep them from speaking out against terror attacks. This is why they are always curiously silent when these attacks happen. Most except Zuhdi Jasser, a devout Muslim and devout American who KNOWS and speaks the truth about the radical influences in his own religion. Read his writings here at: http://www.mzuhdijasser.com and you will see. The point is, Metro, that if you only read leftist, politically correct info, you absolutely are missing out on the truth of many things which those of your political viewpoint deliberately choose to ignor because of the desire to appear politically correct. The truth about the Muzzy Brotherhood and radicalization is NOT going to come from sources that are in the tank for Obzoo. It’s just not. This is the same thing I’ve been telling you for a while – you WANT opposition to challenge entrenched political powers. The opposition is the only place you will actually get the truth about the downsides to your current favored ruling class. You know I am right. It’s the primary reason I come to The Memo and other leftist sites much more than I go to conservative sites.

        Have a great Memorial Day weekend, Metro!

        “The only defense against the world is a thorough knowledge of it.” ― John Locke

        • metrognome3830

          I’ve been going through your list of radical Muslim invaders of the White House. As I suspected, none of the information I have found so far qualifies any of them as radical. There are lots of allegations by people of — shall we say — strong conservative backgrounds, but I have been looking for what is known about them based on real information. If by radical you mean people who defend their faith, in a lawful manner, against the unfounded allegations of people who know very little of what they speak, then I guess you could call them radical. I have found no information that any of them are proposing that they be allowed to set up Islamic states in the U.S. They are asking that they be allowed to practice their religion. None are proposing that the radical elements of Islam be allowed to practice their antiquated Sharia law in defiance of U.S. law. Most are U.S. born with extensive and successful careers. The two who have made questionable comments or had some questionable contacts in the past seem to be Mohamed Elibiary and Salam Mayrati. All of the information against them, that I have read so far, is based on what the authors allege they might be capable of, not on what their work record or ethics are. I will await your information to the contrary. I’m sure you will have some. But you are going to have a difficult time convincing me that all Muslims or Islamists are terrorists just waiting to kill us all and rip out our hearts and eat them. We have good ‘ol home-grown, bible-thumpin’ (Old Testament only) home boys that I consider as dangerous as the radical Islamists.
          You enjoy your weekend, too!

          • ObozoMustGo

            Metro, your thinking is clouded by political correctness. You like to pretend that terrorist cells do not exist in America, and you ignore the fact that their mosques and their schools are the places where these radicals hide and organize under the cover of “normal” religious practices. In reality, neither those mosques or schools are teaching American history or espousing the values of freedom, liberty, and individual sovereignty which are the lynchpins of American culture and life. Such notions are antithetical to the VAST majority of muslims. For you to suggest anything otherwise flies in the face of reality that plays itself out every day all over the world. Are you aware that there are 40,000 Saudi nationals in America on student visas? And are you aware that 15,000 of them came to America and never showed up to the schools that admitted them and got their visas? Where are they? What are they doing? Why was the first guy arrested after the Boston bombing even in Boston when he came in on a visa to go to school in Ohio? Why was he listed as the most dangerous terror classification the US Government has? And why was he secretly deported by the Obozo adminstration? My point is not to rehash criticisms of Obozo here (though I love doing that), but rather to point out the most realistic example of how dangerous muzzies are allowed to operate and proliferate inside our own borders, and organize and plot with impunity because Americans are too damned chicken to speak the truth for fear of being politically incorrect in doing so.

            Regarding the 6 muzzies Obozo had brought in… the first listed Arif Alikhan was instrumental in stopping the LA Police from investigating questionable activities in radical mosques in the city. You see, this is how these radicals operate. Just like they do in the Middle East when they launch missile attacks at Israel from pre-schools and hospitals. They hide under the guise of religious freedom while plotting mayhem against the very country that provides them their freedom. AGAIN… I am not saying that ALL muzzies are radicals, but I am sayin that there are enough radicals amongst them that the good ones are intimidated into silence. Witness Boston again. The bombers were regular attendees at the widely known radical mosque there. There had to be at least a few hundred people who recognized them, yet how many spoke up to the police? NONE! Not one. Not a single one of them, and in fact it is now known that more than a few helped them following the bombing. WTF is that about? How blind do you have to be to not recognize this simple truth? I am telling you they are dangerous, and until we can influence the good Muslims to root out the bad ones and speak out publicly against their radical brothers, we will continue to pretent that there is no problem for fear of being called “racists” or “islamaphobics” or whatever derogatory name they can throw out.

            So, you and I can disagree over social policy and the size of government, Metro, but we cannot disagree on the truth about the threats that exist under our noses. And we cannot disagree on the fact that Obozo’s policies of appeasment and political correctness ARE endangering Americans more than we know, and certainly more than he will ever admit.

            Have a great weekend, my friend!

            “We are the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.” – United States Marines

          • metrognome3830

            See? We can agree sometimes. I agree that moderate Muslims should speak out against the radicals who commit acts of terror in the name of Islam. I have been amazed that they have not been more forceful in denouncing them. I don’t pretend there is no problem. Arif Alikhan did indeed help to stop the L.A. Police from conducting a Joe Arpaio-type sweep of mosques. Arif Alikhan has a long distinguished career in law and law enforcement. The L.A. Police have a rather troubled past in their treatment of minorities. Speaking of Joe Arpaio, he has been slapped down once again in a Federal Court for using racial profiling in his “sweeps.” He “swept” up a few too many legal residents. Including at least one city official. He jailed people who were lifelong U.S. citizens along with illegal aliens. And, unfortunately for Joe, all of them just happened to be of Hispanic ancestry. I have a T-shirt that reads “Stereotypes are a great time saver.” Some people really believe that. I wear it in the spirit of sarcasm. It’s not political correctness to show some concern for your fellow human-beings, OMG. They come in all shapes, sizes, colors and beliefs and if they respect our civil laws I see no reason to infringe on their practice of their religion — I do NOT believe their religious laws can supersede our civil laws. I don’t believe they should be able to stone people to death for committing adultery. I don’t believe they should be able to kill their daughters for dating outside their religion. If, however, their wives and daughters want to cover themselves from head to foot and not leave the house unaccompanied by a male family member, that’s up to them. If they don’t want to, they should be free to do so without incurring physical harm. If they want their food prepared in way to comply with their religious teachings, why not? Many Jewish people do that, too. And I further believe that the majority of Muslims living in this country believe that. But just issuing a blanket condemnation of all Muslims is not right. We have a national history of doing that, OMG. It is something that we should have learned not to do by now. It’s tends to overshadow all the many good things we do as a country. It’s not the Christian thing to do and it’s not the American way.
            I’m flying my flag this weekend. I still believe in America. But I don’t believe in our infallibility. I believe that’s reserved for the Pope. And I’m not entirely convinced of that, either.
            Have a great weekend.

        • metrognome3830

          Well, I’m going to keep my answer short, OMG. I think political correctness is not the only motivating factor. In the Boston Marathon bombing and other events, a lot of blame can be laid at the feet of our law enforcement community. Terribly inept police work. Lack of communication between different agencies, a constant problem. And, of course, you will always find a few misguided souls who think their friendship absolves them of their civic duty. And, yes, those who believe it politically correct to sympathize with terrorists.
          Enjoy a terrorist-free weekend, OMG.

    • metrognome3830

      But take it easy tonight. I’m heading out with ‘Ol Bob next door and Big Mort from down the road. We are going out for Chinese food while the ladies are partying at a friend’s house. A retired pilot, a retired college professor and a retired dumbass bus driver out on the town. Whoopee!
      Or, you can start your research, get a head start.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Sounds like you old boys were out for a night of revelry, Metro. How many of you got locked up in the drunk tank for the night after spiking your Geritol with too much scotch, and then chasing skirts and starting fights? hehehehehehe……. BTW… I’d say that the bus driver is likely to be a hell of a lot smarter than a professor. Most of them are confused leftist freaks, though not all.

        Hope you had a great time, my friend!

        “Drinking removes warts and pimples. Not from me. But from those I look at.” – Jackie Gleason

        • metrognome3830

          Yeah, it was a wild night, OMG. We left at 6:20 and we were home at 8:50. ‘Ol Bob and I drank tea, but the professor, wild-ass liberal that he is, had a beer. The only “skirts” there were even older than us and I don’t think anyone with any class at all has taken a swing at any of the three of us in about 20 years.
          But we had a good time talking 1940s and 50s baseball and talking about the “hot” actresses in the 1950s. And, of course, lying about all the hot dates we had back then. So, yes, we had a great time.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Come on, Metro. You and the boys went wild and crazy, didn’t you? You’re just worried that Mrs. Metro may read this and find out the tawdry details of your night of revelry and skirt chasing. I think I am right about that. Fess up, dude. Besides, I’ve heard it’s trendy these days for young hotties to be hot for 70 something bus drivers….. just a rumor I hear…

          • metrognome3830

            Sssshhhh! Uh, no, that’s my story, and I’m sticking to it! (C’mon, OMG, Mrs. Metro is in the room!)

          • ObozoMustGo

            You have my sworn secrecy, Metro!

          • metrognome3830

            Thanks. I owe you.

          • ObozoMustGo

            I take payment in the form of beer or wine. No hard stuff for me. 🙂

  • Robert P. Robertson

    Heh-heh-heh-heh

  • howa4x

    The tea party is like a bus that has the wheels come off at 90 MPH. They appeal to a smaller group of people than any other politician. Mostly older whites make up a majority of it’s members. Since we already know that they are not strong in blue states, they make up the vote in the mid west and south, where a minority of the population lives. It is like the tail wagging the dog. Moderates on the east and west coasts who once were considered to be the cream of the senate and house, now cower from them. This is why the republican party will start to shrink from the national stage. The tea party is anti urban, anti science, and anti intellectual. I’m not saying that in an elitist way, but merely that the tea party isn’t open to new ideas. They have one mantra which is to shrink the size and power of the federal government. The problem is what do they want to save and what needs shrinking? They are currently using a shotgun approach of which the sequester is a good example. That is hurting more urban people that rural but because the TP sees no tie to urban areas or the problems which they turn a blind eye and a stone heart. They have become followers of Any Rand, a selfish atheist, and away from Jesus, although they claim him as savior, but not his message. They love the Koch bros, who are anti union, and want Americans to work for much less, are anti Obamacare, even though it provides access to millions that were denied, and are anti science, to fight against climate change at the detriment of their own grand children and children so that the Koch’s can make a billion more than the 31 billion each has. This is why in the end most Americans will reject them. The world is awash in information about everything, and they want us to turn back the clock.

  • barneybolt12

    Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio make stupid look smart.