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		<title>By: Mark Marchionni</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-150305</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Marchionni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fallacy is, you believe if government does not supply it, then it does not happen. So the idea of schools was created by the government. The idea of roads was created by the government. The idea of farming was created by the government. Cars were created by the government. Etc.
You may believe the government supplies these things at a better price than the market. I do not. But to say there would be no  .  .  .  .
is just wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fallacy is, you believe if government does not supply it, then it does not happen. So the idea of schools was created by the government. The idea of roads was created by the government. The idea of farming was created by the government. Cars were created by the government. Etc.<br />
You may believe the government supplies these things at a better price than the market. I do not. But to say there would be no  .  .  .  .<br />
is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Marchionni</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-150301</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Marchionni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the government creates roads.  Well there was a time when the government didn&#039;t. But be that as it may, were the workers government workers? Did the government create the tools they used? Did the government mine the rock used for the road? Did the government make the machines to lay the asphalt? The government contracted for these things and the people were paid. I contract to have someone build my house. Do I ow him anything beyond my money? No. Since the government doesn&#039;t even have money without first taking it from the people, it is absurd to say we owe the government for the roads and hence the success of my or anyone&#039;s business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the government creates roads.  Well there was a time when the government didn&#8217;t. But be that as it may, were the workers government workers? Did the government create the tools they used? Did the government mine the rock used for the road? Did the government make the machines to lay the asphalt? The government contracted for these things and the people were paid. I contract to have someone build my house. Do I ow him anything beyond my money? No. Since the government doesn&#8217;t even have money without first taking it from the people, it is absurd to say we owe the government for the roads and hence the success of my or anyone&#8217;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Marchionni</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-150299</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Marchionni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t build my business? So when I failed did my employees help pay my loans that I still owed? Did the government help pay off the lease I still owed money on? Apparently everyone takes credit for the success. But the failure is all me. Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t build my business? So when I failed did my employees help pay my loans that I still owed? Did the government help pay off the lease I still owed money on? Apparently everyone takes credit for the success. But the failure is all me. Please.</p>
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		<title>By: jambajack9 Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-42754</link>
		<dc:creator>jambajack9 Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh by the way I&#039;m self employed with no college.... yet able to find work that pays 3 times what the other people in my generation make....why?   I work hard and dont bitch about how unfair it is to have to do something that is hard..... why should i pay for the lazy fucking people who dont want to have to be away from there perfect little hometown?  I pay 38% in taxes its bullshit
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh by the way I&#8217;m self employed with no college&#8230;. yet able to find work that pays 3 times what the other people in my generation make&#8230;.why?   I work hard and dont bitch about how unfair it is to have to do something that is hard&#8230;.. why should i pay for the lazy fucking people who dont want to have to be away from there perfect little hometown?  I pay 38% in taxes its bullshit</p>
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		<title>By: jambajack9 Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>jambajack9 Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[isnt Toranto spelled Toronto?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isnt Toranto spelled Toronto?</p>
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		<title>By: jambajack9 Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-42750</link>
		<dc:creator>jambajack9 Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is that too many people want help without earning it... I travel work, is that really what I love to do,(no) be away from my family and friends....NO but i believe if the economy gets tough you have to find a way to survive. there is work out there but people dont want to sacrifice anything to work it they think everything should always be perfect.... my grandparent and parents didn&#039;t have it this way why does my generation think they are special????? people traveled all over the country looking for work during the depression bringing their families with them now we have the convince of flying that makes it possible to work in different areas and live in others but this is too much sacrifice... it is riduculous]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that too many people want help without earning it&#8230; I travel work, is that really what I love to do,(no) be away from my family and friends&#8230;.NO but i believe if the economy gets tough you have to find a way to survive. there is work out there but people dont want to sacrifice anything to work it they think everything should always be perfect&#8230;. my grandparent and parents didn&#8217;t have it this way why does my generation think they are special????? people traveled all over the country looking for work during the depression bringing their families with them now we have the convince of flying that makes it possible to work in different areas and live in others but this is too much sacrifice&#8230; it is riduculous</p>
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		<title>By: JackieAllen</title>
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		<dc:creator>JackieAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sir, I will say that the President could have phrased his comments better.  My grandfather
was one of Texas&#039; greatest criminal lawyers of his day.  He and his brothers formed Mays and
Mays --Attnys.a criminal law firm in Fort Worth.  At his death, the Senate of Texas, by rising
vote set aside  a page that day in the journal in honor of my grand father, Charles Mays Sr.  The Proclimation 
mentioned &quot;rugged individualism&quot; which Texans have always valued.  Pilot Point was
considered the &quot;big city&quot; as he  grew up on a farm not far from Denton.  We are 
talking about the early 1900s in Texas.  My grand father never had to put his name on a 
contract, because his word was good and he was a man of honor and integrity.  I grew up
with book shelves filled with wonderful books   authored by such  great men as Thomas Paine, or the Origin of the Species
by Darwin, etc.  Grand father was free to achieve greatness, in a free society.  
Grand father also felt like Jefferson when it came to religion (man&#039;s  inhumanity to man),
which has been a deadly force in this government you dislike.  Obama knows, as do
many of us that our government  is the backbone of society.  If the President was raised
with the values you say he has, then I must through in my family as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir, I will say that the President could have phrased his comments better.  My grandfather<br />
was one of Texas&#8217; greatest criminal lawyers of his day.  He and his brothers formed Mays and<br />
Mays &#8211;Attnys.a criminal law firm in Fort Worth.  At his death, the Senate of Texas, by rising<br />
vote set aside  a page that day in the journal in honor of my grand father, Charles Mays Sr.  The Proclimation<br />
mentioned &#8220;rugged individualism&#8221; which Texans have always valued.  Pilot Point was<br />
considered the &#8220;big city&#8221; as he  grew up on a farm not far from Denton.  We are<br />
talking about the early 1900s in Texas.  My grand father never had to put his name on a<br />
contract, because his word was good and he was a man of honor and integrity.  I grew up<br />
with book shelves filled with wonderful books   authored by such  great men as Thomas Paine, or the Origin of the Species<br />
by Darwin, etc.  Grand father was free to achieve greatness, in a free society.<br />
Grand father also felt like Jefferson when it came to religion (man&#8217;s  inhumanity to man),<br />
which has been a deadly force in this government you dislike.  Obama knows, as do<br />
many of us that our government  is the backbone of society.  If the President was raised<br />
with the values you say he has, then I must through in my family as well.</p>
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		<title>By: joyscarbo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-41817</link>
		<dc:creator>joyscarbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet you FAILED to answer even ONE OF MY QUESTIONS about what kind of employer you are!!!   I guess I don&#039;t have to wonder what kind of employer you really are to illegal aliens.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet you FAILED to answer even ONE OF MY QUESTIONS about what kind of employer you are!!!   I guess I don&#8217;t have to wonder what kind of employer you really are to illegal aliens.  </p>
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		<title>By: Dave_dido</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/we-did-build-that-and-our-government-helped/#comment-41717</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_dido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you read the article about Sandy Weill, Bill? No comment, huh? You really should read it because it addresses exactly what we&#039;re talking about here.
Of course Sheldon Adelson has only one vote. The point is that he is buying influence that diminishes the power of my vote and your vote. If elections were run on public funds then Sheldon Adelson would be no more important to a legislator than you or I would be. That legislator would be beholden to no one but his/her electorate. A wealthy person should not
 be able to carry more weight than an average Joe in a representative democracy. Are you saying that it&#039;s OK for the wealthy to carry more influence because of their ability to pay for  it?
You&#039;re all wet about a Walmart clerk&#039;s having the same opportunities as Romney to shelter money. The Walmart clerk cannot utilize that phony, created for wealthy Wall-Streeters,shelter on &quot;future income&quot;. And, yes, it is perfectly legal for Romney to use this loophole. The question is: why is it there in the first place? It&#039;s obviously there for people with a lot of money to shelter, not for the Walmart guy.
Finally, I don&#039;t think I&#039;m reading anything into your posts that you haven&#039;t put there. Who exactly are you talking about when you refer to the 50% who don&#039;t pay any taxes? Aren&#039;t these the people who don&#039;t make enough money to have to pay taxes, i.e., the poor.Are you honoring them when you call them the &quot;takers&quot;? Am I mistaken, or isn&#039;t this whom you blame for the deficit?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read the article about Sandy Weill, Bill? No comment, huh? You really should read it because it addresses exactly what we&#8217;re talking about here.<br />
Of course Sheldon Adelson has only one vote. The point is that he is buying influence that diminishes the power of my vote and your vote. If elections were run on public funds then Sheldon Adelson would be no more important to a legislator than you or I would be. That legislator would be beholden to no one but his/her electorate. A wealthy person should not<br />
 be able to carry more weight than an average Joe in a representative democracy. Are you saying that it&#8217;s OK for the wealthy to carry more influence because of their ability to pay for  it?<br />
You&#8217;re all wet about a Walmart clerk&#8217;s having the same opportunities as Romney to shelter money. The Walmart clerk cannot utilize that phony, created for wealthy Wall-Streeters,shelter on &#8220;future income&#8221;. And, yes, it is perfectly legal for Romney to use this loophole. The question is: why is it there in the first place? It&#8217;s obviously there for people with a lot of money to shelter, not for the Walmart guy.<br />
Finally, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m reading anything into your posts that you haven&#8217;t put there. Who exactly are you talking about when you refer to the 50% who don&#8217;t pay any taxes? Aren&#8217;t these the people who don&#8217;t make enough money to have to pay taxes, i.e., the poor.Are you honoring them when you call them the &#8220;takers&#8221;? Am I mistaken, or isn&#8217;t this whom you blame for the deficit?</p>
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		<title>By: montanabill</title>
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		<dc:creator>montanabill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are a student of history, you know that the rich have always had significant influence on government.  That isn&#039;t going to change, and it certainly hasn&#039;t changed under Obama.  
You seem to have a tendency to read your biases into my writing.   Just where have I pointed my finger at the poor and downtrodden?  I will say that from own personal experiences at being poor and downtrodden, if you want that to change, there is only one person who can do anything about it, and its not President Obama.
Please don&#039;t try to equate Romney&#039;s situation with teachers or Walmart clerks.   His children will obviously benefit from his success, with or without what you consider to be a &#039;tax shelter&#039;.  And that tax shelter is available to any Walmart clerk who has equivalent funds, so it is not special to him.   You should also note that personally created fortunes tend to be dissipated within a few generations.  
Lobbyists in Washington?   They didn&#039;t go away when Obama was elected.  Compare his campaign promises with the lobbyists actually a part of his White House.
Did Prince make money off of taxpayers?  Did Brian Henderson (Solyndra) make money off taxpayers?  Sure.  Is it right? No.  However, if you think that the wealthy are going to pay a disproportionate share of taxes without having an appropriate share of the say, you are living in a dream world.
The people will only have equal power when their share is equal.  When 50% don&#039;t contribute, don&#039;t expect them to ever have any say.   They are takers, not contributors.  
I didn&#039;t know Sheldon Adelson had more than one vote?  I learned something.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a student of history, you know that the rich have always had significant influence on government.  That isn&#8217;t going to change, and it certainly hasn&#8217;t changed under Obama.<br />
You seem to have a tendency to read your biases into my writing.   Just where have I pointed my finger at the poor and downtrodden?  I will say that from own personal experiences at being poor and downtrodden, if you want that to change, there is only one person who can do anything about it, and its not President Obama.<br />
Please don&#8217;t try to equate Romney&#8217;s situation with teachers or Walmart clerks.   His children will obviously benefit from his success, with or without what you consider to be a &#8216;tax shelter&#8217;.  And that tax shelter is available to any Walmart clerk who has equivalent funds, so it is not special to him.   You should also note that personally created fortunes tend to be dissipated within a few generations.<br />
Lobbyists in Washington?   They didn&#8217;t go away when Obama was elected.  Compare his campaign promises with the lobbyists actually a part of his White House.<br />
Did Prince make money off of taxpayers?  Did Brian Henderson (Solyndra) make money off taxpayers?  Sure.  Is it right? No.  However, if you think that the wealthy are going to pay a disproportionate share of taxes without having an appropriate share of the say, you are living in a dream world.<br />
The people will only have equal power when their share is equal.  When 50% don&#8217;t contribute, don&#8217;t expect them to ever have any say.   They are takers, not contributors.<br />
I didn&#8217;t know Sheldon Adelson had more than one vote?  I learned something.</p>
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