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Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Well, this is a fine mess.

After years of moaning about various “conspiracies” against them, conservative activists finally have a real (i.e., not manufactured by Fox or inflated by Limbaugh) piece of evidence to take before the court of public opinion.

Meaning, of course, last week’s revelation that the Internal Revenue Service has been giving extra scrutiny to groups with the words “Tea Party” or “patriot” in their names. Extra scrutiny from the IRS is about as welcome as extra scrutiny from the proctologist, so one can hardly blame conservative groups for complaining, as they’ve done since last year. Unfortunately, those complaints got no traction until Friday, when the IRS admitted the practice. Lois Lerner, director of the IRS division in charge of tax exemption, was speaking at an American Bar Association conference in response to a question about whether the conservative groups had been singled out. She admitted they were.

These groups reportedly amounted to about a quarter of the 300 organizations flagged for review between 2010 and 2012, but according to Lerner, there was no political intent. Rather, she says, the words became a shortcut used by employees to help them sort through the explosion of groups seeking tax exemption under the Internal Revenue Code. The relevant Code section, 501(c)(4), requires that any exempt group be working to promote “social welfare” and that political action not constitute its “primary activity.” The groups the IRS flagged were not necessarily denied exemption, but were subjected to extensive questioning and required to produce membership lists and donor information.

Tuesday, the Justice Department launched an investigation. Two congressional committees are also looking into the matter. Every taxpayer not employed by the Obama administration should welcome the news.

Under the most charitable interpretation of the facts, this unit of the IRS used godawful judgment. Under the least charitable, it engaged in ideological harassment inimical to and violative of the First Amendment.

Taxpayers deserve to know which it is. And how long it has been going on. And whether groups of other ideological stripes have been similarly targeted. And how the malfeasance — assuming it is malfeasance — will be punished. And what safeguards will be put into place to ensure this sort of thing never happens again.

  • CrossWinds

    With great power, comes great responsibility…..

    ….Luke 12:48….

    …… From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

    • docb

      Appears that some Democratic applications received the same scrutiny:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-15/irs-sent-same-letter-to-democrats-that-fed-tea-party-row.html

      • They did, doc, no one escaped IRS scrutiny. All applicants were reviewed for viability, Dems, Republicunts, neo-Confederate Tea Bags, and any group applying and reapplying for 501c4 status. . . That neo-Confederate Tea Bag squealing is like a pyromaniac reporting a suspicious fire, or a pervert passing out candy on a playground because he loves kids. They are ruining a well-meaning, positive program in order to create a scandal that will backfire on them.

  • Unfortunately, a few low level IRS officials in Ohio gave the GOP and, especially, the Tea Party, an opportunity to claim victimhood and political persecution. There is no doubt that most of the so-called non-profit groups that are proliferating throughout the country are anything but non-profit, and that includes both sides of the political spectrum, but targetting specific individuals or groups while ignoring others is bound to backfire on Democrats who kneew nothing about what was going on and who, hopefully, will be unequivocal in their rejection of such practice. If the people responsible for this are found guilty, they should lose their jobs or, as a minimum, should be severely reprimanded for violating established IRS rules of conduct. If the IRS want to go after non-profit organizations, that’s fine, but don’t single out a specific group.

    • cats33

      You are believing their lies again. It was top IRS officials and the targeting happened in more than just Ohio. Top Dems were involved in the targeting too!!! I’ve told you before, you know so much that isn’t so. You may start getting truth out of them now since their leader targeted them too!!!!!

      • TZToronto

        And their names are . . .?

        • cats33

          Jeanne Shaheen, Max Baucaus, Chuck Schumer, Kay Hagen, Mark Pryor–all involved in convincing the IRS to target conservatives. And their the ones that act like they want to get to the bottom of this!! Hypocrite communists!!!

          • TZToronto

            Hypocrites? Yes, like most politicians. Communists? Probably not. And you have quotations to back up your assertion? (Oh, and your poor spelling damages your argument. It’s they’re, not their.)

          • There are consequences to making false statements and character assassination. Do you have an iota of evidence to say that any of the people cited above encouraged the IRS to audit right wing groups?
            If an IRS official (s) did it on his own, that person should be disciplined, but if they auditted a large group of non-profit organizations and some happened to be right wing groups, that is precisely what the IRS is supposed to do. Most importantly, why are these groups – regardless of ideological leanings – tax exempt? What do they do that deals with the people’s welfare? Is Planned Parenthood tax exempt?

          • plc97477

            Another question would be why do the groups care so much. If there is no wrong doing there would be no problem.

      • Allan Richardson

        IRS is SUPPOSED to target likely frauds for auditing. There were so many groups being formed at once that getting the evidence on every one would have taken much longer (especially since Tea Party members of Congress cut its funding). And so many were being formed with similar names that it would have been, and probably was, a logical assumption that the same people were behind each one, at least as donors, and probably as organizers as well.

        If you want to believe in a conspiracy, how about a conspiracy to get an excuse to become martyrs for political purposes.

      • Here’s where this poor thing gets her boobies caught in the ringer..dearie, the HEAD of the IRS is a Bush-appointed Republican!! Duhhhh??? You’re such a trusting fool, swallowing all of the Flush-vomit on Faux..unsubstantiated, very used cat-box litter, at best! All you have to do here..simple enough even for yourself, I’m sure..is to look on an IRS organizational chart, which will show the Director and the date of said appointment. Then, you can strain your tiny brain and google that person..including political affiliation! Duhhhhhh…again!!

        • cats33

          Another phony pretending to be a Republican.—You’re a nasty bitch aren’t you, you must know Fern. This is fun to watch, your leader twisting in the wind : ))

          • Screw You, You Cat Do Do Eating Bitch!! Why You Just Love It Here And Love To Get Your Ass Cuss Out By Me!! Stupid Racist Cave Dwelling Gutter Tramp!!

  • option31

    Washington Post Tuesday reported Washington DC and two other
    offices were involved in this -El Monte and Laguna Niguel California. This morning it comes out they demanded a list of everyone a Tennessee organization had ever trained or planned to train, this in the UK Mail. This reaches far above some desk jockey in Cincinnati, it reaches far higher than that. This is a concerted effort to squash the 1st Amendment of those that disagree with those in power. Yes the other side does it also so don’t blast me for saying hold people accountable and throw them in jail. This is a serious matter and WE the citizens should demand a full investigation going back as far as we have to, to clean house and put these people on notice this will not be tolerated.

    It will be interesting over the next few days and weeks how National Memo covers this.

    Oh an by the way as a side not regarding the Tennessee incident does anybody think these same people if they had a gun registry would not use it to harass citizens? Even Jon Stewart sees that!

    • The head of the IRS is a Bush-appointed Republican..braintrust!

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    In my view, the Tea Party was looking for a way to get rid of this president just like McConnell stated in March 2009. They want to impeach yet another Democratic president …How many more will they do this to? How then do voters who elected this president have any voting rights when a tiny militant faction in this country can overturn our votes for something as petty and stupid as the IRS doing the job its paid to do?
    I don’t buy this as just a “scandal,” not when you consider the attacks on this president from the day the election was called. All these tyrants want is the opportunity to show the rest of us just how empowered the Koch billions has made them and how they will force the rest of us to bow to their will.

    • cats33

      You’re an idiot!! Not one Tea Party group was approved by the IRS for tax exempt status for 2 years and 3 mos. Dem groups were approved regularly. Top Dems were involved in the targeting. Your upstanding party stole the election and they are in abit of trouble. The Dems are nothing but shysters. Impeach them all!!!

      • RGpilot

        These groups can operate until the IRS decides as the donor contributions are not tax free. So acceptance or denial hasn’t slowed them down.

        Why should any group be allowed to take in “dark money” even if only 50% is for political purposes. The whole thing, including Citizens United, should be scrapped and return the country to “We the People.”

      • tobyspeeks

        cats33, the reality of the matter is you’re the idiot. Go away now.

        • cats33

          The MSM is even turning on Obama because he turned on them!! HA!!!! : )

        • anal draw Should Really Stop Eating Cat Shit And Get A Job And A Life!!! And Stop Hoarding 33 Cats!!LOL

      • awakenaustin

        You are making stuff up now. You have zero evidence of your comments regarding Democrats. But don’t let reason or rationality restrain your diatribe.

        Who were the other 225 groups who were flagged? They weren’t Tea Party/Patriot applicants. Are your panties in a wad about them?

        How many Tea party applicants were denied tax-exempt status? I heard the number 8 for the entire group which was flagged. Maybe despite the delays not a single Tea Party group was actually denied tax-exempt status. The truth of the matter is, that despite the fact that they participated rather openly in political activities on behalf of particular candidates for elected office, they were still awarded tax exempt status.

        What IRS did was stupid and shoud not have been done as they did it. They clearly should have adopted other criteria for deciding who to scrutinize closely and they should not have gone fishing for information they didn’t need to make their decision. All that being said, the most regrettable aspect of this will be that we will now be diluged with a variety of unsustainable, fact challenged, nut job conspiracy theories.

        When I think of great defenders of the First Amendment and civil liberties I never think of organizations like the ACLU, no I always look to those historic and hysterical champions of free speech, press and religion the Tea Party and the GOP. This is ultimately no more or less than a question of whose ox was gored. This will end up being exactly what the Inspector General’s report said it was – nothing more and nothing less.
        But that won’t keep you from making up fairy tales.

        • cats33

          Like I said your party is a bunch of shysters. Rham Emmanuel–the end justifies the means. Low life bunch of communist Chicago thugs.–They FINALLY got caught!! : )) Even the MSM is turning on them!! HA!!!

          • oldtack

            Hey cat shit
            Produce the proof of your allegations. Or does your limited knowledge not allow you to do this.

          • cats33

            Hey Fu** face, watch Fox News, you might learn something

          • Mark Forsyth

            Well,that says it all.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Bwaaaa-hahahahaha!

            Will Fox News finally reveal how rednecks manage to remember to breathe?

          • oldtack

            Did you mean to say you wanted me to FU** you in the face?
            Nah – think I’ll pass on that undesirable venture.

            Really? Wow.

          • susiep44

            Don’t think you are going to find out much enlightening information from Fox News. Obviously you only pick up on the quick one-liners and the 4-letter words. Your comments and sweeping accusations just show that you are ignorant of the real issues.

          • awakenaustin

            As testimony to the care you take with factual accuracy, his name is spelled Rahm and not Rham.
            Troll.

          • cats33

            His name is spelled queer

          • oldtack

            Have a good evening Lana.

          • plc97477

            Spelling is one of your many challenges.

          • susiep44

            You use “MSM” a lot. Is this an organization I should recognize by the initials, am I having a senior moment or is this like some of your other initials that mean other words I couldn’t use in church?

        • cats33

          Over 500 conservative groups were targeted, the IRS is corrupt, your leader is behind it. They helped Obama steal the election

        • plc97477

          It may be regrettable but I am not sure this will make that any different. The crazies are doing quit well without the irs’s help

      • hilandar1000

        Why don’t you name some “top dems” that were involved in the targeting? It’s easy to make a statement — especially when you don’t feel the necessity of backing it up with proof.

        • cats33

          Watch Fox News and you will find out

          • Siegfried Heydrich

            I’m sorry, but I’d rather have an habanero enema than watch Fox . . .

          • cats33

            Then you don’t want to hear the truth do you

          • Well, 33..you’re the one who doesn’t want to hear the truth! How’s life there, on the other side of the Looking Glass and down the Rabbit Hole? Hope you’re having a lovely time there with the Door-mouse, the Red Queen, the Mad Hatter and the Cheshire Cat.

          • WhutHeSaid

            You’ve proven yourself a fool in public — congratulations.

            You may go back inside your trailer now.

          • Siegfried Heydrich

            Truth from Fox? Sure, Lana, sure . . .

          • plc97477

            I would love too hear you tell the truth I just don’t expect it.

          • Mark Forsyth

            Hot Damn!

          • plc97477

            That is about the same esteem I hold faux news too also.

          • hilandar1000

            Oh yes — good suggestion —- NOT. You have heard, no doubt that Fox (non)news actually went to court to establish it’s “right to lie”. Check that out —- it’s very interesting!

      • johninPCFL

        Here’s what the law says:”
        (A) Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare, or local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality, and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.
        (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an entity unless no part of the net earnings of such entity inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.”
        Is any political entity operated “exclusively for the promotion of social welfare”? And if you’re looking for an organization skirting the law, which particular words would you look for in the name?

        • cats33

          Isn’t this fun?? : ) Even the MSM is turning on Obama!!!

      • lana, we can still see you. . . You faked like you were mandinka, but you were mandinka until you opened your mouth. Your morphing only make people know how unstable you are. Be for real for once in your miserable life.

        • cats33

          Ya, it’s me, what about it!! How’s Obamas’ lies working out for him these days?? Even the MSM is turning on him!! HA!!!

          • Siegfried Heydrich

            You know, when paranoid liars whine and carry on about how persecuted they are, it just makes people laugh at them. I actually feel kind of sorry for you – you are such an utterly hateful and rabid person that I doubt very seriously you have any friends in real life who don’t share your obsessions, as no one who doesn’t share your obsession would be willing to put up with them. So you lead a sad and lonely life, venting your rage and hatred on-line because that’s the only possible way you can get any attention or human interaction whatsoever. Even when you get banned because of the hatefulness of your speech, you are compelled to return under another name because you have nothing else in your life to fill the empty hours as you await death.

            I am rather sad to say that it sure must suck to be you. And suck even worse to be around you.

          • cats33

            Obama is mad as hell, his lies are catching up to him : ))

          • jmprint

            What is your obsession with President Obama? You sound very jealous.

          • What Is Her Obsession With National Memo?? lana ward Love It Here It’s About The Only Attention She Gets In Her Lonely Sad Life!!!

          • susiep44

            You are obviously what I have always thought the ultra-conservative right was all about – getting that N—–R out of the white house. Oh, by the way, I am a white woman voter not that it should matter..

          • Siegfried Heydrich

            Sure, Lana, sure . . .

          • plc97477

            He is still the white house. You are not.

      • oldtack

        Catshit

        Produce FACTS to back up your bullshit. If oyu cannot produce FACTS then don’t bother us.

      • 33..You poor misguided fool! The head of the IRS is STILL a Bush-appointed Republican and has been, lo these many years! If you’d extract your head from the dark smelly orifice that is Faux ‘N Flush, you might find yourself less likely to make such embarrassingly unfounded statements!

      • Your an ignorant fool , do you know what Impeach means, and what it takes to impeach? NO GROUNDS can’t do it on the lies of the right, that is a fact. Be wise and get the truth, do your own homework and research.

      • susiep44

        I’m unsure where you got your “insider” information about what groups did and did not receive tax exempt status, but keep in mind that the chairman of the IRS is/was a Bush appointee. Perhaps one way to solve the situation is for the Tea Party to declare themselves as a political party instead of a branch of the GOP. I would suggest that ALL the political “social welfare” organizations (liberal, moderate, conservative or ultra conservative) not be tax exempt without PROOF that they are supporting a non-political program. If their only reason for existence is to launder donations to political parties, they should be required to release the names of members. I do not donate nor do I have millions to donate to any organizations but I certainly don’t mind anyone knowing what organizations I might belong to. If I held your views, I don’t think I would suggest the Dems “stole the election” after the Supreme Court Decision following “hanging chads” in Fla. It is no wonder there is the kind of rampant anger and violence in this country when a difference of opinion results in the most vile name calling. It is time for all of us to GROW UP and work for doing what is best for the rights of all Americans!

    • JohnnyH

      Well, they are just coming for the Jews! They won’t come for the rest of us!

    • You said it all Eleanore Whitaker, thank you, that is as clear and truthful as it get, one would have to be a fool with their head in the sand , not to see it. AUDIT THEM AND ANYONE WHO HAS THIS MUCH POWER TO CHANGE THIS NATION AND BRING THEM TO THEIR KNEES, THAT IS WHAT THE TEA PARTY IS DOING , ANY POLITICIAN WHO IS BACKED BY THE TEA PARTY/KOCH’S IS NOTHING MORE THAN A CORRUPT , CORPORATE WHORE. They are hiding something BIG no Doubt, why else would they cry foul and targeting ? I for one would love to know what the I.R.S would have found out. Bad show Obama, you should have let the I.R.S. do their job. same goes for the Left also. I am tired of the powerful dirty money in our system of lies and corruption.

    • cats33

      The IRS is corrupt and Obama is behind it. Look at what was said and done against G Bush or do you have selective memory. It was fine when he was being trashed, wasn’t it???

    • mike

      It was 2010 not 2009 that McConnell made the remark. What you seem to forget about these “scandals” is that the Republicans have nothing to do with them. These are his people, his responsibility, his agenda, he is president. Remember he was going transform the country.
      How about the truth. How about being honest to the American people.
      Hey, when is Obama’s tee time.!!!!

  • option31

    And just now this morning it comes out they also wanted facebook posts and what books were being read. Resumes of officers, blog posts, interviews with the media, social media postings, minutes of all board meetings, who and what organizations they were associating with. GOOD GRIEF! And this White House Carney guy says just because they apologized does not mean they did anything wrong? What the H!? For any one to defend any of this or to minimize it is either over the top stupid or over the top partisan. ALL of us no matter our political stripe demanding jail for the perps no matter how high or low in the food chain. These are basic foundational right guaranteed by the Constitution!

    • johninPCFL

      The law says:”
      (A) Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare, or local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality, and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.
      (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an entity unless no part of the net earnings of such entity inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.”
      Is any political group operated “exclusivley for the promotion of social welfare”? If you were looking for evidence of whether a group was in violation of the law, what would you look at? (hint: for the mafia they look at communications, including emails, facebook posts, and other on-line communications)

    • Now..take a deep breath and consider carefully the following…the HEAD of the IRS is a Bush-appointed Republican..yes! Ironic that, while almost ALL of Obama’s potential appointees to agencies like the SEC, IRS, etc. have been systematically turned down or sidelined since he first took office, the same person installed by Bush is STILL in charge! Now, if the Republican-controlled committees in charge of approving said appointees had been a little smarter (totally fictional scenario), they’d have let Obama’s guy into the job..THEN they might have some basis for brewing up such a “scandal”! As it is, they’re now just spitting into the wind..too funny!

      • option31

        Jana thanks for your concern I am not Hyperventilating I’m breathing just fine. I fact checked my posting ao I stand by it. You are wrong Jana, you must stop taking WH spokesman Jim Carney at his word and repeating it as he does not know much if anything. He’s a marianette. I suggest you fact check anything Carney says in the future if you plan on using it. Actually Douglas Shulman ( Bush appointee you and Carney are refering to ) retired in November 2012. According to my calendar we are now in May 2013 so Shulman has been gone for 6 months unless I’m in a future time warp and am 6 months ahead of the world. Miller had been briefed on May 3, 2012( he became Commissioner November
        2012 when Bush appointee Shulmans term was finished ) So Miller knew at least one year ago. Did it happen under Shulman – yep sure did I never said it did not. In another post I said go back as far was we have to, to clean the mess up. The old guard running the Republican party is just as fearful of the tea party as the Democrats are.

        Just to put your and others minds at ease I am NOT a Republican. I somebody that thinks we as citizens must stop playing the partisan games the parties are playing and hold ALL politicians to a high standard no matter what party they are from. No favorites, no overlooking lies, misdeeds, misleading citizens, no criminal activity if they cant follow these they need to find another occupation as they are ruining this country. They are adults and need to be held accountable not excused because they have a D or R behind their name. People fall for this trap and we just change the faces but the criminal activity continues no matter Democrat or Republican. We enable this because we’re D or R come H or high water. If we plan on leaving anything to our children we have to stop the games and hold them all accountable.

  • The black Richard Nixon.

    • The head of the IRS is a Bush-appointed Republican.

  • Mark Forsyth

    Anyone want to join me in blatantly victimizing the T baggers and the gop? We will be very up front about it.Then we will get rid of that piece of trash called Citizens United and clear up this nonsense.

    • cats33

      Communist!! Just like your leader!!

      • What in Mark’s statement resembles communism, a socio-economic philosophy?

        • You Know That’s lana ward= anal draw She’s Morphing Into Different ID’s She Still Drinking Cat Piss And Eating Way To Much Cat Shit!! Funny She Thinks Posting Right Out Romney Play Book!! LOL Didn’t Work For Him And It’s Damn Sure Not Working For Her

      • Mark Forsyth

        I would respond to your charge of being a communist,but then I would have to give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually know the difference between communists,socialists,and fascists.Very Doubtful!

      • WhutHeSaid

        New name, Lana? You still have an appointment with that lake of fire – Satan isn’t fooled. Be ready!

    • cats33

      This isn’t over. The IRS is corrupt and we will find Obama is behind it

    • You Got That Right!! What Ever The IRA Was Thinking Now The Head Of The IRA Has To Think About How He’s Going To Pay He Bill Cause He Just Got FIRED!!

  • johninPCFL

    26USC501 says:”
    (A) Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare, or local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality, and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.
    (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an entity unless no part of the net earnings of such entity inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.”
    If I were looking for persons violating the law, there’s a list of keywords I’d use in determining whether an organization was “operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare”, and that list would certainly include “democrat”, “republican”, “liberal”, “conservative”, “political”, “commitee” and “party”.
    Once an organization that appeared to violate the law was found, I’d be examining their communications and transactions to verify their legitimacy and verifying that “no part of the net earnings of such entity inures to the benefit of any private individual”, be it George Soros or Karl Rove, Charlie Crist or Marco Rubio.

  • Lovefacts

    If the IRS denied one Tea Party group it had to deny all of them because ALL of them used the same organizational documents, format, and agenda. However, I think the IRS needs to look at every 501C organization be it right or left.

    The key here is that 501C is a non-profit organization set up to educate the public and for the public’s social good. While we all like to believe that our political beliefs and organizations satisfy that, they unfortunately don’t. As soon as political ads slamming an individual are placed, as soon as a group promotes only their view–not in a debate– or specific politicians, they violate the 501C classification.
    However, the problem isn’t really with the Tea Party. It was just the easiest to go after due to the uniformity of their paperwork. The real problem is with groups set up by i.e. Karl Rove and the Koch brothers and even Obama. IMO, these 501C are designed to hide donors while funneling money directly into their political action committees, thus allowing the donors to get a tax deduction when it’s illegal to take a deduction for donating to a political party or politician.
    Frankly, IMO, all 501Cs, regardless of party, shouldn’t be allowed. There’s no place for secrecy when it comes to money in politics, especially when they are used to subvert the tax laws dealing with donations to political parties or politicians. Not if we want to attempt to maintain a democracy.

    FYI: I know how hard it is to get and maintain the 501C classification. 2000-2002, I was on the Board of Directors of a national writers organization. To maintain that classification we held writer workshops monthly for member and anyone interested in writing across the 50 states in every city where there was a chapter of the national organization.

  • The devil has no legs. When God cursed it to dwell on its bely for all eternity, that word still stands. That demon would whine and wimper in a dark corner and beg you to help it, saying it has no legs and it is a victim, and we pick it up to help it. When we do that, we bring it everywhere it wants to go: to church, to our homes, to our everyday activities— and it wrecks havoc on us because we were gullible enough not to reckonize that thing for what it is. I rebuke that Republicunt/neo-Confederate whining and wimpering. We should not only avoid sin, but we should avoid the very appearance of it! How was Republicunt/neo-Confederate tea Bags hurt in this, for merely being questioned? You go to make a loan at the bank and the bank inquires about your personal finances, family expenditures, savings, and income to ensure you’re qualified to return their loan, is that being unfairly targeted for intense inquiry? We’ve all been targeted by the IRS when a flag is raised that requires an audit, and none of us liked it. But it was from something we paid or absent-mindedly overlooked or deliberately avoided, not something the IRS is giving us! These anti-American, anti-tax, anti-government so-called “patriotic” organisations were directly tied into a blatant political organization, and that is against the rule of the 501c4 exemption. Many of them were seeking tax exemption while waving signs that read “NO TAXES NOW”. When you dance with the devil the devil always take the lead. They were supposed to be informing people, teaching them to understand their Constitutional rights, but they were teaching hate, intolerance, white supremacy, and insurgency, especially of the anti-Obama kind. The IRS was doing its job, and had it not done its job and allowed these abuses to continue, we all woud have been in front of the IRS office with pitch forks and torches calling for their heads! Republicunts made up a mythical “welfare queen” who was using the social welfare system for gain, but here we see them abusing a social welfare tax-exemption to the hilt with billionaire backers who were also abusing the exemption just like the “welfare queen” they imagined. The only way to stop that abuse is to eleiminate the 501c4 tax-exemption. There was a challenge to it in 2012 that the IRS fought and won to continue what they thought was a good process. Now, they should reconsider the arguments of the 2012 plaintiffs to close that loop hole since it is so scandalous, unlawful, and abusive. The IRS is a “stand alone” agency. There is a book called “A Law Unto Itself” by David Burnham which explains in detail the history and the independent authority of the IRS. Not even the president has control over this agency. So that argument that the president and his adminstration has something to do with the examination of Republicunt/neo-Confederate Tea Bags is unfounded and ungrounded.

    • Siegfried Heydrich

      Dude. Paragraphs are your friend. The ‘Enter’ button on your keyboard is there for a reason. Use it.

      • You do your thing and I’ll do mine, okay. Don’t make waves where none is. Keep your focus where it belongs, dude.

        • Siegfried Heydrich

          Legibility and readability is important. Walls o’ text are difficult to wade through, and a lot of the time, when confronted with one, I’ll simply ignore the post, as wall o’ text is often an indication of ill-ordered thought. Putting a line feed in to indicate breaks in narrative greatly aids with comprehension – long, rambling pieces tend to make the readers not bother continuing to the end, and to go ‘what the hell was all THAT?’ if they actually make it to the end.

          Seriously, hitting ‘Enter’ every now and then just makes what you write more readable, and I’m assuming that you actually want people to read what you’ve written.

          • Press enter on this o===8 and it’ll make you feel better.

          • plc97477

            I read what you posted. The whole thing.

  • Allan Richardson

    If the President admits that he has done wrong, but stresses that he is using the tools that Congress gave to a PREVIOUS President, and would like Congress to remove those tools (e.g. by repealing the National Security Letter section of the PATRIOT Act), then we will find out if the GOP controlled Congress is outraged by the violations of civil rights, or only by a DEMOCRAT violating the civil rights of REPUBLICANS.

    As for the 501(c) 3 avowedly political PAC, and the 501(c)4 intended for groups like the Red Cross, NAACP, ACLU, St. Jude’s Hospital, etc, but used to hide political money, Congress should make a detailed list of the allowable activities of both types of groups. The criteria are so vague that the IRS had to use “profiling” to select the groups for which auditing was more likely to catch fraud. The reality is that conservative Super PAC’s actually WERE AND ARE proliferating; when you wanted to catch the Mafia in the old Godfather days, you didn’t do surveillance on Smiths or Guldersons in Minnesota, you followed Gambinos and Capones in New York and Chicago, because that was what the REALITY was.

    And Reality has a well known liberal bias.

    • mandinka

      How about his fiats that have 0 basis in law. Like the GM and Chrysler bankruptcy

  • Siegfried Heydrich

    Something that people might want to remember is that these were overtly political (the Tea Party was publicly and blatantly political) trying to register as 501.c.4 organizations, devoted to ‘Social Welfare’. That was and is pure bullshit. To be honest, it would have been far better if the IRS had informed one and all that political groups should be properly registered as 527s, and sent them the forms to do so. A lot of this has to do both with the confusion resulting from the Citizens United case as well as the massive influx of submissions from the Tea Party. I don’t think the IRS had figured it all out yet, and the natural response of any bureaucracy in times of uncertainty is to go slow, gum up the works, and wait for clarification.

    I think the IRS, being an exceptionally arrogant, incompetent, and insulated agency, simply bungled the job. I strongly think that the wrongdoing from the leadership regarding the “who, little old us?” story the executives were handing out was more focused on ‘not getting into trouble’ (nice going, there, guys) and shuffling these annoying people out of sight / mind more than anything else. Not to mention the dismissive attitude any agency would take when having to deal with those who have identified themselves as your enemies by simple virtue of their name (yeah, ‘Taxed Enough Already’ is going to make friends and influence the tax collectors, right?).

    Congress needs to fix this (not that it’s going to, of course) by clarifying the difference between a ‘Social Welfare’ group and a political organization. Political groups need to register as 527s, and social groups as 501.cs. And then make it very, very clear that while 501.c groups have First Amendment protections, they are not allowed to engage in political activity at the risk of losing their tax exempt status. I don’t want to infringe on anyone’s free speech rights, but we have a tax code for a reason.

    There are groups like the Lions, Kiwanis, Rotary, Moose, Elks, Shriners, etc who actually work hard to improve their communities, help people, and benefit society. Those are the real 501.c.4s. Tea Party groups whose sole function is to back conservative politicians and defeat liberal politicians serve no such purpose. Because they are purely and totally political, they should NOT be granted 501.c status. I don’t have a problem with them being tax exempt, but they need to do so under the 527 classification, end of story.

    I doubt there was any White House involvement in this at all – I really don’t see President Obama rolling that way, in spite of all the paranoid ravings. Yes, heads should roll, and Congress should fix the mess they helped create. But there’s less of a conspiracy here than another example of a bureaucracy off the rails.

    • mandinka

      That isn’t the IRS decision. I think the NAASCP LaRaza, SCPLC, Rainbow coalition and rev Farakan, Al Sharpton and ala are overtly political

      • Siegfried Heydrich

        Sure, Lana, sure . . .

  • JohnnyH

    Leonard, you sometimes make sense! But be it “godawful judgement” or “idealogical harrassment” the outcome should be the same – fire the people who did the “singling out” and their supervisors – no “packages”, no “early retirements” – pure and simple dismissal for cause, without consideration for re-instatement or rehire.

    • mandinka

      Go directly to Jail do not pass GO

  • emadis41

    It was the right who instituted the policies that they cry foul about today, starting with Nixon against his critiques, no one on the right complained then because Nixon’s foes were moderates who sensed the breach of the law and spoke out. Then the Patriot act that was enacted under GW Bush that allows the US Gov to snoop and wiretap innocent people just for suspicions; so right wingers taste the fruit of what you sowed!

    The IRS was doing its job when it flagged “Tea Party” applicants and those organizations with “patriot” in their name. If you subscribe to any of these groups’ site you would realized that many of them did not hide their anti-taxes stance and they advocated to their subscribers not to pay taxes (legally). Furthermore some advised their subscribers on how to get rebates they are not entitle to (legally). The IRS may have targeted these extremist groups on the right, but it did also target the extremist left organizations; honestly we can do better without extremists
    on the right or the left.

    • mandinka

      Big difference Republicans voted unanimously to impeach Nixon unlike Clinton who lied under oath and was allowed to walk

      • emadis41

        Nixon was not impeached, he resigned.

  • mike

    I just gained a little respect for NM for an honest article not left but down the middle. USA Today is reporting that dozens of progressive sounding names sailed through, with a few exceptions, while conservative groups languished for years.

    How interesting that Malik Obama, half brother, to the President flew through the system in one month and retroactive back to 2008. From 2008 to 2011 it operated as a non profit without a determination from the IRS. Very Fishy!!!

    What makes this even more ironic is the speech by Obama at OSU commencement where he told graduates to ignore what people say about govt., “being separate, sinister entity that is the root of all problems, that at best gums up the works, OR THAT TYRANNY ALWAYS LURKS AROUND THE CORNER”.

    TYRANNY IS HERE IN THE FORM OF THE IRS AND DEPT. OF JUSTICE-AP SPYING.

    • The head of the IRS is a Bush-appointed Republican. Obama has for a long time been pushing to get through a “reporter-shield” law..and every time, it’s been voted down by..yup..Republicans. Duhhh..but then, Faux only wants you to have half the story. They know you well and realize you’ll never investigate on your own, whether they’re telling the truth. They’re right..you won’t.

      • mike

        Yes, Shulman was a Bush appointment but Obama held him over.

        As to your specious argument about Obama pushing a reporter-shield law, go to Huffington Post-no friend of the right- called “Porter Shield law” May 15,2013, and learn the truth. Chuck Schumer: The White House’s opposition to the essences of this bill is an unexpected and significant setback. It will make it hard to pass this legislation. Not my words.
        Just remember that the Senate had a filibuster-proof 60 seats at the time of the vote. The republicans voted it down!! What a bunch of horse manure! Look who needs to quit watching MSNBC.
        Obama even asked Schumer to craft the bill.

    • Can I ask you a question, Mike? . . Who is “government”?

      • mandinka

        Right now its the 47% who don’t pay taxes eating at the public trough

      • mike

        Now that is a great question you should ask your leader. His words not mine. Nice try though!!! Read the text sometime and maybe it will hit you between the eyes.

        • I should have known I couldn’t get a straight answer from a cowardly pussy.

          • mike

            Oh, are you upset??? He said govt. not me, he is the subject not me, he is a poor leader, the one with a credibility problem, he sets the tone for those under him, he is the one who said not to believe all those dastardly conservatives that govt. is the problem and a Tyranny around every corner. Sure looks like he is starting to let you down, which our side knew would happen being a product and part of the Chicago Thugs.
            Typical from the left try and change the subject. Attack me for not wanting to play your little GIRLY game. It is time you learn the word and definition-not the lefts definition, but the Merriam-Webster.
            “cowardly pussy”” look in the mirror. Little girl. LOL!!!!

          • mike

            Ah, did I upset you. I don’t play those GIRLY GAMES. Change the subject, do what is necessary to distract.
            Again, your leader said it not me. Ask him.
            Better yet go to the Merriam-Webster and learn the definition, not the lefts, but their definition. I hope that won’t be to hard.
            Look like Obama has turned into the biggest pussy of all. Russian missiles in Syria, No more fly zone now. Weak again. I am sorry he is letting you down again.
            “cowardly pussy” just look in the mirror or better yet watch Obama on MSNBC.

          • mike

            Ahhh, did I upset you because I wouldn’t play your girly game. Tell you what, go get your Merriam-Webster dictionary, dust it off, and look up the word. It would do you some good to find the real meaning of the word, not the lefts.

            As to “cowardly pussy” look in the mirror.

            More importantly remember what your leader said to ignore the people who don’t trust govt., etc, and think there is a Bogeyman behind every corner. Hey, douche bag, the Bogeyman is real and it is here and under his watch. What a arrogant Bastard!!!

      • mike

        I see your comment below has been deleted. You called me a “cowardly pussy” for not wanting to play your girly game of answering the question: Who is govt.? If you are still having trouble, dust off your Merriam-Webster dictionary and get the correct answer not that of the left.
        Ahh, I hope you won’t stay upset to long because your dolls will miss you.

  • charleo1

    Well. I think we an all agree, that no matter how limited, or far ranging,
    the singling out, or intentionally holding up, a group’s application for tax
    exempt status turns out to be. It is a form of profiling. It is wrong. And, It
    goes aganist the grain of what this Country is supposed to be all about.
    And, while we can, and should, take a serious look at this whole section
    of tax law. There will be an appropriate time for such discussions. Right
    now is not the time for circling the wagons. Making excuses, or trying to
    change the subject, by recalling the past sins, or the imperfections of a
    by gone administration. Or, as Eve sought to minimize her sin, by
    informing God, Adam had also eaten of the fruit. So, now is the time for
    allowing the cards, whatever they may be, to fall as they may. And get
    back quickly to the business of moving our Country forward. We have
    much work to do. Millions of Americans still desperately need jobs.
    The competition is not standing still. And neither can we afford to do so,
    for very long.

    • Well said, charleo1.

    • mandinka

      a form of profiling?? Are you serious its against the law and we need to see a perp walk

  • Edsanjuan

    Leonard Pitts, you pathetic hypocrite: You and all the “whores-for-hire” in the “mainstream” press want to make it appear as if the real issue here is the IRS fiasco, when the real issue (which you so transparently want to obscure) is BENGHAZI (remember Hillary: “What’s the difference now? They are all dead!”).

    Mark my words: BENGHAZI, and NOT the IRS fiasco about which you liberals so hypocritically (but sooo obviously) claim to be in agreement with the Right, will be the Dems’ albatross come November 2014.

    • mandinka

      he’s always been an Obama apologist

  • mandinka

    Got no traction?? That’s because the State Run Media buried any negative news about the messiah. Even now ABC and NBC are claiming that barak is a victim.
    If you watched the news tonight Anglia jolie got as much coverage as all the scandals…really really

  • oldtack

    I wonder how many average citizens understand 501 c Organizations – their origin, their function, and the number of 501c categories.
    For general information: there are 29 categories of 501c.

    501c1-Corporations Organized Under Act of Congress (including Federal CU’s
    501c2-Title Holding Corporation for Exempt Organizations
    501c3- Religious,Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety,to Foster National or International Amateur Sports competition, Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations.
    501c4- Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, Local Associations of Employees.
    501c5- Labor, Agricultural, and Horticulturla Organizations.
    501c6- Business Leagues,Chambers of Commerce,Real Estate Boards,
    501c7-Social and Recreational Clubs
    501c8-Fraternal Beneficiary Societies ans Associations.
    501c9-Voluntary Employee Beneficiary Associations

    501c10-Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations
    501c11-Teacher’s Retirement Funds Associations
    501c12-Benevolent Life Insurance Association, Mutual Ditch or Irrigation Companies, Mutual or Cooperative Telephone Companies, etc.
    501c13- Cemetery Companies
    501c14- State Chartered Credit Unions, Mutual Reserve Funds
    501c15-Mutual Insurance Companies or Associations
    501c16-Cooperative Organizations to Finance Crop Operations
    501c17- Supplemental Unemployment Benefits Trusts
    501c18- Employee funded Pension Trust
    501c19-Post or Organization of Past or Present Members of the Armed Forces
    501c20-Group Legal Services Plan Organizations
    501c21-Black Lung Benefit Trusts
    501c22-Withdrawal Liability Payment Fund
    501c23-Veterans Organization
    501c24-Section 4049 ERISA Trusts
    501c25-Title Holding Organizations or Trusts with Multiple Parents
    501c26-State Sponsored Organization Providing Health Coverage for High Risk Individuals
    501c27-State Sponsored Workers Compensation Reinsurance Organizations
    501c28-National Railroad Retirement Investment Trust
    501c29-Qualified Nonprofit Health Insurance Issuers

    Each one of these 501c’s has multitudes of non-profit Organizations. Combined there are thousands out there. All of them qualify as non-profit and none of them pay any taxes on any money used for the purpose of their Organization whether it be small change or Millions of dollars – all tax free.

    It is one of the duties of the Internal Revenue Service to scrutinize existing and new 501c’s to ferret out fraudulent activities. When the IRS gets hit with 85-100 applications for the same 501c then that should raise a red flag for them to single out these new applicants and scrutinize them before granting the non-profit request.
    If you will check – each year several Organizations lose their non-profit status because of fraudulent practices.
    This is no different than singling out and auditing a regular filer if anything in their return raises a red flag.

    I look at the thousands under these loophole 501c’s and envision all of the lost revenue due to a non-profit status and see why my taxes are high.

    Maybe we should totally revamp the IRS and close all of these and many more loop holes in the tax structure so we all pay our fair share. Maybe then we could all see a more fiscally sound structure and all enjoy lower taxes..

  • Ed Sommers

    What was the IRS thinking? Maybe that the Tea Party and the political right in general is opposed to paying taxes. They promote the idea of “starving the (government) beast” so that it becomes small enough to “drown in a bathtub. The oppose the government using it’s power to do anything except make war. So, gee, might these self-identified enemies of taxation be of any special concern to the IRS, whose mission it is to collect the lawfully owed taxes of all American citizens?