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		<title>By: ObozoMustGo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18478</link>
		<dc:creator>ObozoMustGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[World... The center of the mortgage crises was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Those 2 government sponsored mortgage backers were giving the banks incentives to write highly risky mortgages because they were offering to back them. That means, guarantee them. Of course the banks were going to write more mortgages. The reason they were selling them in large bundles was a way for them to reduce their risk and exposure. Problem is, when all of them are doing it, everyone ends up holding the bag for everyone else. When the house of cards came down, everyone realized they were all naked and the losses started to pile up. 

Think about it this way. If you had a business selling cars, and the government offered to be the warranty on your cars guaranteeing any needed repairs are paid for, could you sell more cars? You&#039;re damned right you would be selling more cars! Would you care whether or not they were in perfect condition? Hell no! Of course not because the government would cover your butt and the customer would get the car they want fixed up anyway. Everyone&#039;s a winner, right? 

Do you understand the perverse incentive system created by government incentives for home ownership? It&#039;s no different. This is what is called an incentive trap. Many, many government programs and ideas create incentive traps. Once you learn what they are, and then begin to spot them, that&#039;s the time when you become very skeptical of politician&#039;s ideas to &quot;help&quot; people.

Guys on the left like to blame &quot;greedy bankers&quot;. Guys on the right like to blame government. The flat out truth is that BOTH are to blame. Government comes up with stupid ideas and tries to manipulate the free market. That ALWAYS ends badly. But the bankers should know better and maintain levels of integrity and responsibility in their lending practices, no matter what the stupid politicians tell them. But, they let their greed get the better of them and the went betting in a high stakes game in a house of cards. Funny thing is, you will NEVER hear a politician tell you that it all started with their stupid ideas of increasing home ownership.

There were a great number of banks that had no problem with the housing crisis because they never veered off the course of responsible lending. Most of them were small, local or regional banks. I hope you have your money in that type of institution.

Hope this helps.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>World&#8230; The center of the mortgage crises was Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Those 2 government sponsored mortgage backers were giving the banks incentives to write highly risky mortgages because they were offering to back them. That means, guarantee them. Of course the banks were going to write more mortgages. The reason they were selling them in large bundles was a way for them to reduce their risk and exposure. Problem is, when all of them are doing it, everyone ends up holding the bag for everyone else. When the house of cards came down, everyone realized they were all naked and the losses started to pile up. </p>
<p>Think about it this way. If you had a business selling cars, and the government offered to be the warranty on your cars guaranteeing any needed repairs are paid for, could you sell more cars? You&#8217;re damned right you would be selling more cars! Would you care whether or not they were in perfect condition? Hell no! Of course not because the government would cover your butt and the customer would get the car they want fixed up anyway. Everyone&#8217;s a winner, right? </p>
<p>Do you understand the perverse incentive system created by government incentives for home ownership? It&#8217;s no different. This is what is called an incentive trap. Many, many government programs and ideas create incentive traps. Once you learn what they are, and then begin to spot them, that&#8217;s the time when you become very skeptical of politician&#8217;s ideas to &#8220;help&#8221; people.</p>
<p>Guys on the left like to blame &#8220;greedy bankers&#8221;. Guys on the right like to blame government. The flat out truth is that BOTH are to blame. Government comes up with stupid ideas and tries to manipulate the free market. That ALWAYS ends badly. But the bankers should know better and maintain levels of integrity and responsibility in their lending practices, no matter what the stupid politicians tell them. But, they let their greed get the better of them and the went betting in a high stakes game in a house of cards. Funny thing is, you will NEVER hear a politician tell you that it all started with their stupid ideas of increasing home ownership.</p>
<p>There were a great number of banks that had no problem with the housing crisis because they never veered off the course of responsible lending. Most of them were small, local or regional banks. I hope you have your money in that type of institution.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Have a nice day!</p>
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		<title>By: ObozoMustGo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18476</link>
		<dc:creator>ObozoMustGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Joy! I missed you this week. :-) I hope you are doing well.

I think the point I was trying to make was NOT that $2B is not alot of money. It is. But in the big picture of the bank, it&#039;s really not a problem to absorb it. And by the way, the trade was not a one day event. The bank and the trader in charge of this particular bet were getting into this over a long period of time. Here is a good place for you to go learn about how this unfolded and how it works:

If you Google &quot;JPMorgan’s Trading Loss Is Said to Rise at Least 50%&quot; it will give you a NY Times link which takes you to a section they have called &quot;DealBox&quot;. It will also give you good info on the nature of the risks that the bank took, which legitimately they should not be taking if they are a depository institution unless such trading is done through separate legal entities, in my opinion. But again, in the end, they are projected to make $6B in profit this Qtr, so in the big picture, it&#039;s not a big deal. it is a good lesson, though.

I hope you have a wonderful weekend, Joy! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joy! I missed you this week. <img src='http://nationalmemo.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I hope you are doing well.</p>
<p>I think the point I was trying to make was NOT that $2B is not alot of money. It is. But in the big picture of the bank, it&#8217;s really not a problem to absorb it. And by the way, the trade was not a one day event. The bank and the trader in charge of this particular bet were getting into this over a long period of time. Here is a good place for you to go learn about how this unfolded and how it works:</p>
<p>If you Google &#8220;JPMorgan’s Trading Loss Is Said to Rise at Least 50%&#8221; it will give you a NY Times link which takes you to a section they have called &#8220;DealBox&#8221;. It will also give you good info on the nature of the risks that the bank took, which legitimately they should not be taking if they are a depository institution unless such trading is done through separate legal entities, in my opinion. But again, in the end, they are projected to make $6B in profit this Qtr, so in the big picture, it&#8217;s not a big deal. it is a good lesson, though.</p>
<p>I hope you have a wonderful weekend, Joy! </p>
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		<title>By: joyscarbo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18472</link>
		<dc:creator>joyscarbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not saying I&#039;m an economic whiz or anything...but if you have $19 billion that&#039;s taken a year to make and you lose $2 billion in one day...that&#039;s nearly 11% of your profit lost/gone in one day.  Wouldn&#039;t any business who lost 11% of their profit in ONE DAY be freaking out?  Certainly the stockholders can&#039;t be sitting around eating bonbons thinking this was good for their investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying I&#8217;m an economic whiz or anything&#8230;but if you have $19 billion that&#8217;s taken a year to make and you lose $2 billion in one day&#8230;that&#8217;s nearly 11% of your profit lost/gone in one day.  Wouldn&#8217;t any business who lost 11% of their profit in ONE DAY be freaking out?  Certainly the stockholders can&#8217;t be sitting around eating bonbons thinking this was good for their investment.</p>
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		<title>By: ObozoMustGo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18337</link>
		<dc:creator>ObozoMustGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My response is to Nazi Bill&#039;s post you idiot, not the trash piece article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response is to Nazi Bill&#8217;s post you idiot, not the trash piece article.</p>
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		<title>By: lexi001</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18296</link>
		<dc:creator>lexi001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 00:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That has been my thought every time I see his name and I swore I would not give him the attention he obviously so desperately needs, but the ignorance drives me to madness! However, I absolutely agree with you and have no intention of ever responding or reading anything with his name attached again. I don&#039;t know if his response shows for you to see, but I would never respond back. He doesn&#039;t even make any sense. Now that I have responded to him this one time I&#039;m mad at myself for giving into such stupidity. I hope your suggestion is taken up by all.
Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That has been my thought every time I see his name and I swore I would not give him the attention he obviously so desperately needs, but the ignorance drives me to madness! However, I absolutely agree with you and have no intention of ever responding or reading anything with his name attached again. I don&#8217;t know if his response shows for you to see, but I would never respond back. He doesn&#8217;t even make any sense. Now that I have responded to him this one time I&#8217;m mad at myself for giving into such stupidity. I hope your suggestion is taken up by all.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: wayneonly</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18294</link>
		<dc:creator>wayneonly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lexi001, ObozoMustGo is really hard to take and usually has nothing of worth to say. Maybe we should all ignor him and he will go away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lexi001, ObozoMustGo is really hard to take and usually has nothing of worth to say. Maybe we should all ignor him and he will go away.</p>
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		<title>By: STORMENHARD</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18293</link>
		<dc:creator>STORMENHARD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re the bozo...You totally missed the point...but then you&#039;re a ignorant fool...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re the bozo&#8230;You totally missed the point&#8230;but then you&#8217;re a ignorant fool&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: World Citizen</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18259</link>
		<dc:creator>World Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[William I don&#039;t know about the geography but the banks need to stop gambling.  The mortgages were always with Banks and that I don&#039;t see a problem with.  They really should not be allowed to package/bundle these loans and sell them.  All transactions needs to be very transparent not cloaked and veiled in some language that no one understands.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William I don&#8217;t know about the geography but the banks need to stop gambling.  The mortgages were always with Banks and that I don&#8217;t see a problem with.  They really should not be allowed to package/bundle these loans and sell them.  All transactions needs to be very transparent not cloaked and veiled in some language that no one understands.  </p>
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		<title>By: ObozoMustGo</title>
		<link>http://www.nationalmemo.com/why-wall-street-needs-government-regulation-to-save-it-from-itself/#comment-18212</link>
		<dc:creator>ObozoMustGo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Gump... Congratulations! You have won &quot;The Moron of The Day&quot; award. You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Here it is:

1) A $2B loss in a PRIVATE company that generates $19B a year in Net Profits is not a big deal, unless you are a shareholder. Even then, it&#039;s a blip on the radar screen of the company in the long run. It&#039;s why your leftist hero Buffett is buying their stock now.
2) No one &quot;PAYS&quot; for their losses except them. What a fool like you has no idea of is that investment banks trade on THEIR OWN ACCOUNTS WITH THEIR OWN MONEY.... Unless of course your name is Jon Corzine and you&#039;re buddies with Obozo and Eric &quot;The Incompetent&quot; Holder... then you can cover your bets illegally with customer money and get away with it.
3) As stated in number 1 above, JPM is NOT losing money. Only an idiot like you would make such a statement in a public forum and NOT check your facts on Google Finance or where ever before you make such an assertion.
4) There is NO SUCH THING as bonuses that are excluded from taxation. They are taxed like regular payroll checks, you dope! I can tell that an idiot like you has probably NEVER earned a bonus before in your miserable existence! 
5) uhhhh... hey STUPID!!!!! Obozo has been the one running us into bankruptcy. He took office with $10T in debt and 3.5 years later we are $16T in debt. NO ONE has ever spent like Obozo spends.

Even your misspelling of the word &quot;bankruptcy&quot; is a clue that maybe a useful idiot like you should not be sharing your deep lack of intelligence with the public! 

I am sorry to be offensive, but you need a wake up call, dude!

Have a nice day!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gump&#8230; Congratulations! You have won &#8220;The Moron of The Day&#8221; award. You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Here it is:</p>
<p>1) A $2B loss in a PRIVATE company that generates $19B a year in Net Profits is not a big deal, unless you are a shareholder. Even then, it&#8217;s a blip on the radar screen of the company in the long run. It&#8217;s why your leftist hero Buffett is buying their stock now.<br />
2) No one &#8220;PAYS&#8221; for their losses except them. What a fool like you has no idea of is that investment banks trade on THEIR OWN ACCOUNTS WITH THEIR OWN MONEY&#8230;. Unless of course your name is Jon Corzine and you&#8217;re buddies with Obozo and Eric &#8220;The Incompetent&#8221; Holder&#8230; then you can cover your bets illegally with customer money and get away with it.<br />
3) As stated in number 1 above, JPM is NOT losing money. Only an idiot like you would make such a statement in a public forum and NOT check your facts on Google Finance or where ever before you make such an assertion.<br />
4) There is NO SUCH THING as bonuses that are excluded from taxation. They are taxed like regular payroll checks, you dope! I can tell that an idiot like you has probably NEVER earned a bonus before in your miserable existence!<br />
5) uhhhh&#8230; hey STUPID!!!!! Obozo has been the one running us into bankruptcy. He took office with $10T in debt and 3.5 years later we are $16T in debt. NO ONE has ever spent like Obozo spends.</p>
<p>Even your misspelling of the word &#8220;bankruptcy&#8221; is a clue that maybe a useful idiot like you should not be sharing your deep lack of intelligence with the public! </p>
<p>I am sorry to be offensive, but you need a wake up call, dude!</p>
<p>Have a nice day!</p>
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		<title>By: forrest57</title>
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		<dc:creator>forrest57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[obozomust go;  you must be either the biggest idiot (Republican) or a banker (theif). to think that 2 billion dollar loss (at the present time and i&#039;m sure this is just the tip of the iceburg) is no great loss, probably both.  some one pays whether its the shareholders loosing money or the bank coustomers with higher intrest rates. the problem is that the bsanks are loosing money that is not theirs to loose and noone is held responcible noone is fired noone repremanded instead they are rewarded for their bad performance in the way of bonuses which are excluded from taxation.  the banks and the republicans have run this country to the verge of bankrupsy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obozomust go;  you must be either the biggest idiot (Republican) or a banker (theif). to think that 2 billion dollar loss (at the present time and i&#8217;m sure this is just the tip of the iceburg) is no great loss, probably both.  some one pays whether its the shareholders loosing money or the bank coustomers with higher intrest rates. the problem is that the bsanks are loosing money that is not theirs to loose and noone is held responcible noone is fired noone repremanded instead they are rewarded for their bad performance in the way of bonuses which are excluded from taxation.  the banks and the republicans have run this country to the verge of bankrupsy</p>
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