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Thursday, August 17, 2017

According to a new USA TODAY/Rock The Vote poll, Donald Trump is performing at almost record lows among young American voters. This showing is fueled, in part, by many millennial Bernie Sanders supporters finally flocking to Hillary Clinton.

The poll shows Clinton leading Trump 56 percent to 20 percent among voters under the age of 35. Adding in third-party candidates, the numbers still show Clinton with a wide lead at 50 percent to Trump’s 18 percent, Gary Johnson’s 11 percent, and Jill Stein’s 4 percent.

The poll also found that 50 percent of voters under the age of 35 are supportive of the Democratic Party, with only 20 percent supportive of the Republican Party, and 17 percent independent. Young voters believe that Trump seemed less presidential after the Republican Convention. This is in direct opposition to Clinton’s numbers among young voters, which indicate that after the DNC she seems more presidential.

The recent USA TODAY/Rock The Vote poll isn’t the only one to document Trump’s floundering campaign with young voters. A McClatchy Poll released last week actually shows Trump trailing behind both third-party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein among voters under the age of 30. In that poll, Trump polled at 9 percent, compared to Clinton’s 41 percent, Johnson’s 23 percent and Stein’s 16 percent. Trump’s level of support was just one point above “undecided” voters at 8 percent.

The McClatchy poll showed Trump’s favorability rating with young millennials at a paltry 13 percent, which is worse than his favorability rating among Latinos of all ages (25 percent) and just above his favorability rating with liberals (10 percent).

The methodology of this particular McClatchy poll allows for a higher margin of error than normal, but the numbers still tell a damning story about Trump’s flailing candidacy among millennials.

Even a Fox News poll from last week shows Trump struggling with voters under 35: Trump polled at 23 percent with Johnson very close behind him at 19 percent. Clinton dominated that survey too, at 50 percent. Jill Stein was not included in the poll.

Multiple polls throughout this election cycle have shown young people reacting negatively to Trump. In July, a GenView poll found that more than two thirds of respondents between 18 and 30 years old thought that Trump was racist, including six out of 10 white respondents. Young voters have responded by rejecting Trump’s violent rhetoric and moving away from his campaign.

The USA TODAY/Rock The Vote poll was taken by Ipsos Public Affairs from August 5 through August 10th. It included 1,539 adults ages 18-34 and has a credibility interval akin to the margin of error of 4.6

Photo: Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump speaks during a campaign event in Fairfield , Connecticut, U.S., August 13, 2016. REUTERS/Michelle McLoughlin

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48 Responses to Young People Have Abandoned Trump In Almost Record Numbers, Polls Show

    • I read a paper recently that made the case that intelligence is going up while crime is coming down largely due to the elimination of lead from our environment.

      • Great Mother Jones article. The statistics seem irrefutable that lead posinoning from paint and cars (before unleaded gas) greatly influenced our crime rate.

        • CSI had an episode years ago in which an inveterate poker player–a really good one–dropped dead, and nobody could figure out why–until Gil Grissom figured out that this poker player, known as The Candy Man because he constantly ate chocolate-covered peanuts or raisins or something, died from lead poisoning. The chocolate came from countries where leaded gasoline was still used, and the “leaded” chocolate, not harmful to people who ate it in moderation, was lethal to The Candy Man because he ate huge amounts of it. And we know why the Roman Empire collapsed–lead poisoning from lead pipes that carried water to homes. Good ol’ plumbum!

          • Actually, no. Once the lead pipes developed ‘fur’ inside of them from the minerals in the water, they were actually quite safe. What did the Romans in, and this went on for a long time and not just in Rome, were lead / pewter drinking vessels and plates. Worse was the fact that lead salts were used as sweetening agents (mostly in wines) and women’s makeup until the 17th century.

            Where it got REALLY bad was when distilled liquors like Gin became popular and people were drinking from lead cups or ceramics that were glazed with lead compounds. The higher alcohol concentrations dissolved far more lead than the beers / ales they were drinking before. Seriously, going on a bender with a lead drinking vessel could kill you or put you in a coma with incredible speed, which is where the term ‘dead drunk’ originated.

      • Michigan’ Republican Governor Rick Snyder’ Flint Michigan will be a case study to add validity to past studies that validate the effects of lead on human brain development and violence.

        He should be proud to have his name affixed to these future projects!

        An ‘N’ of 8000 to 10,000 kids! That’s a significant population size. And all for austerity…my my

        • He should join the study. I’m thinking a boiling lead enema just to establish the right hand anchor point of the bell curve.

          • Thousands of good people would love to see that one!

            But unfortunately, hardship and tragedy seems to pass over the worst of America’s most hideous politicians.

  1. A group you might think may be the most naïve and gullible proves that they are neither. I only wish more people were as discerning and took a stand against the racism and violence advocated by Trump and his Trumpies.

  2. This is the death of the republican party, As the boomers age out, there are fewer and fewer young to replace them, and their numbers will dwindle at an ever increasing rate. This is not to say they’re going to go completely away; my guess is that they’ll last for another generation in the stinking, fetid depths of the old confederacy, reduced to a rump party, bitter and hateful even as they slide into irrelevancy.

    My guess is that by the ’24 election, they’ll have to hold their campaign rallied in nursing homes and their convention at Sun City Center, Florida waving their canes in the air as they rage against those kids.

    • As the death rattles get louder, they will get bolder and more desperate to innovate new and more effective ways to diminish the power of the citizen vote.

      This party has already demonstrated they don’t need a lot of voters to win.

      Karl Rove’s plan to stack state legislatures and governorships across the country has work remarkably well; and even now they’ve schemed machinations to pump up down ballot races $$$$ instead of betting on the Dark Horse DJT; and some how they are holding on…remarkable!!!!!! (the god of gerrymander)

      They keep obstructing and they keep winning doing NOTHING with all the leadership power they’ve cheated to gain.

      Both the campaigns of Clinton and Trump are in agreement that infrastructure can turn up the economy.

      I recall “Juicer” John Boehner and Mitch “The Bitch” McConnell’s sing-song jobs…jobs…jobs and I remember Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign theme “shevel ready jobs”.

      Since then–8 years ago, we’ve had two congresses refuse to put any funding into infrastructure, while roads crumble (especially in our rust bucket states) and bridges crack, and our highways get more crowded.

      I pray you are right that this is the near end of the republican party!

      And you are correct and I’ve said it already that they we never dissolve completely because they’re ideology is in the genetics of America. They will become a rump party in the same way cancer cells reside in all our DNA just waiting for the trigger event before it becomes a disease.

      The current republican party is truly beyond doubt a disease on the body of our republic

        • Speaking as a boomer, may I say that MOST of us are NOT befuddled idiots watching FOX all day and raging against anyone who insults the Great White Dope…

          • Well, to me, the boomers are the ones born between ’45 and ’55 (I’m a late boomer), so that puts them in the 60+ age bracket by definition.

          • I live in an area with many folks over the age of 75 who are rabid Rebups. They are not boomers, they are the remnants of the great generation.

          • Studies have shown that if people do not actively work to keep their brains working they lose cells as they age. Not all boomers have lost the ability to use their brains but those that have not used their brains are starting to.

          • And passively watching TV (like Fox) and enthusiastically nodding their heads accelerates the decline in cognitive function.

          • Sad but true . . . I’ve seen over and over that when the retirees start watching Fox, in a fairly short time, the relatives stop visiting because of the personality changes, which they put down as being the early stages of Alzheimer’s.

          • Not you, nor I. But to suggest that “…MOST of us are NOT befuddled idiots…”? That might be a reach. Everywhere I look I see Boomers, otherwise rational people, who prefer Trump and have no idea why.

  3. Wouldn’t it be funny if The Donald finishes third after Johnson? The erosion of support for Trump is not limited to young people, who are, indeed, distancing themselves from Trump as far as they can get. Over 90% of African Americans support Clinton. Almost 80% of Latinos support Clinton. A comfortable majority of women support Clinton, and so do Independents. Alas, even white blue collar workers are abandoning Trump.
    I would not be surprised if he drops out due to “family issues” and leaves Pence holding the bag.

  4. One very recent excample of Trump’s deliberate lying: I’ve just heard on the radio here in Europe that Trump is telling scare stories about Germany, plenty of crime allegedly committed by immigrants there, and Chancellor Merkel’s supposed failures. For one thing: The German Federal Investigations Bureau has published a study saying that the average crime rate is far lower in immigrants than it is in the general population. Secondly: It appears that Trump is just regurgitating ‘information’ spread by German right-wing and left-wing extremists who, understandably, are Merkel’s sworn enemies, and sworn enemies of democracy at that.

  5. This assessment once again shows the GOP and Trump as magnets for fuddy duddies, i.e., anyone over 21 yrs old whose mind has become constipated by archaic ways of thinking, paranoid about anyone who’s not confined to a meat-and-potato beer guzzling diet, distrust of anyone who doesn’t watch FOX at least 5 minutes per day, is suspicious of anyone whose ethnicity is of another nation, and has a fear of moving forward in life.

    This is not a profile of anyone who is eager to learn new things, who can think outside the boxed environs of conservatism, and is sincere about seeing America become Great in the real sense of “greatness”.

    • I honestly think that Fox is mental poison. I have a friend who runs an assisted living facility, and she told me they had to open a separate dayroom for the Fox news crowd. When they had a single dayroom, the Fox people would try to hog the TV set, and would start all kinds of fights with anyone who wanted to watch something else or disagreed with them. So now they are separate but equal, though just for peace & quiet, they serve meals in the Fox dayroom because it’s better than having them come into the dining room carrying on about whatever they were just watching.

      She also said that when a guest starts hanging in the Fox room, they undergo a major personality change. This is often very shocking to their families who visit them, and they think it’s Alzheimer’s kicking in when in reality, it’s Fox. And their visits become less frequent as time passes. She says that the constant agitation they get from Fox just burns them out, and for the most part, within six months, they wind up in another facility, and then it’s just a downward slide from there.

      I live in an area that has a LOT of retirees, and you can tell the ones who watch Fox just by body language and attitude. I think that Fox is literally killing off it’s viewer base by way of slow mental poisoning that just eats away at them.

      • That’s quite a strange set-up you describe and I love your “separate but equal” jab. What you describe is in line with the research I mentioned as described in Nicholas Carr’s book “The Shallows: What The Internet Is Doing To Our Brains”. He writes about “neuroplasticity” of the brain and the impact too much TV and other excessive media usage has on the user’s ability to think deeply—FOX, constant IPOD usage, etc. bombards users to the point of preventing the brain to “rest” and recover.

        • Meanwhile the smart phone: the I-Phone particularly, is sucking the brain of millions of Americans!

          Ever wait in line at a store or any establishment and notice almost “everybody” like zombies standing with the cell-phone cradled in their hands like prayer book: eyes fixed in a state of catatonia!

          It’s Orwellian spooky, the power of media over this generation of techno-addicts.

          Our doctors are coming up with a diagnosis for it.

          And if you want to see how powerful the addiction is checkout YouTube for a trove of videos of kids beating the crap out of their teachers for trying to separate them from their cell phones.

          I’ve see people riding bikes, driving cars, walking the streets in the day and dark staring into the light of their cell phones….

          • Yes, I’m beginning to note with a sense of amusement and concern about what seems to be an hypnotic effect on those who’ve become obsessive in iphone/cell phone users.

            And this isn’t confined to western countries.

            While in Oman, I noticed many Omanis glued to their iphones wherever I went in Musqat and Salalah as a tourist.

            The author I cited describes the benefits of reading over information-gathering via TV, and reading of books in paper form rather than reading primarily from tablets. And reading from the tablet in the dark prior to sleep interrupts the sleep pattern, with long-term harmful effects on the brain.

      • Attitude is a dead give away, but I’m curious about the body language part. What am I missing? I need to know to save time….

        • There is a palpable physical tenseness that is visible, and their postures are often in an aggressive / defensive conflict stance, at least among people with whom they don’t share common views.Their faces tend to be held tighter, and never really seem to relax, and there is a tightness to the eyes that indicates a heightened level of suspicion and some degree of personal paranoia.

          Something else I had never really noticed until a friend pointed it out, is that Fox viewers tend to become more reclusive over time. A while back, I remarked that we hadn’t seen this one fellow in a while, and wondered how he was doing. Someone who knew him better said ‘Oh, he’s watching Fox now, so I guess we won’t be seeing too much of him any more’. This started a discussion, and we realized that a lot of people who had dropped out of our social circles had done so because they were no longer comfortable in a setting that contained a diversity of opinions.

          There’s a bar in town that is the hangout for Teahadists and conservatives, and gawd help anyone who goes in there who isn’t hard core . . . it’s worse than a biker bar.

    • My grandmother used to say that “hardening of the attitude” is way more deadly than hardening of the arteries.

      • Your grandmother was a very wise woman. I may be a bit biased by saying this, but most women are wiser than men for some unknown reason.

        Maybe, it’s because of the experiences they have had to acquire to balance out a more intractable nature of men, which in turn my be due to the evolutionary need of men to be aggressive to protect the family unit and the larger group(tribe, social community, etc). Each gender, according to evolution and societal needs, developed certain attributes more fully that the other. But now is the time for men to develop more fully what was neglected and for women to acquire more fully capabilities denied them because of gender bias and the necessities of former eras in humanity’s development, thus allowing women to serve in a greater role in the full functioning of society, and not be seen as belonging strictly in the home.

        Also, another dimension may have to do with the unique role women have of being the first educators of children as Baha’u’llah describes it—-a role that He pointed out requires, according to one of His stipulations, that priority of providing education must be given to the girl child if a family has to choose between paying to educate the son or the daughter when funds are insufficient to educate both.

        Not all women must become mothers, nor all men be warriors. Each has to develop the ability to function in both spheres(in the home and outside of it), but for now, primacy of being the first educator remains a unique right of women.

  6. Tell these young people that they can find Pokemon characters at the polls on November 8, and they’ll be there. But they can only look for Pokemon characters AFTER they’ve voted.

    • Supposedly, which means I read it on the Internet, the Clinton campaign was using Pokemon Go spots, like Pokemon gyms, as locations for voter’s registration tables. Happened within the first week of US game launch. I am with her, not the orange ignoramus, I value competency, intelligence and knowledge.

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