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5 Reasons Democrats Need To Unite Sooner Rather Than Later

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Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Bernie Sanders greets supporters after a campaign rally in Salem, Oregon, U.S., May 10, 2016. REUTERS/Jim Urquhart

You say you want a revolution?

What would you call 11 million people being deported, religious discrimination as official government policy, and a president who has vowed publicly to use all and any authority to seek revenge on his political enemies? How about giving a thin-skinned, megalomaniacal, bigoted clown a nuclear arsenal and the most powerful armed forces ever, knowing he has vowed to commit war crimes against women and children?

That’s the risk a plurality of Republicans has decided to take. Now they want to force it on the entire nation.

The GOP base is expressing an unrepressed desire to restore a strict racial hierarchy, as a salve against the pain of fragile masculinity and 30 years of increasing middle-class misery inspired by conservative policies. But the GOP establishment nurtured its Trump denial all the way through the primary — expecting the con man to crumble under the weight of his “gaffes” and know-nothing-ness, failing to recognize how the modern media landscape made both of those “flaws” huge assets.

Republicans failed to unite against Trump and got creamed. They might have gotten creamed anyway. But when you’re complicit in a disaster like Trump, cheap excuses end up sounding like something out of a Martin Niemöller poem. Democrats now face the same moral crisis Republicans did. Can they focus on what unites them?

In general, we already know the answer to this: Yes. Facing the 2016 election, the left is far more united than the right. CNN found earlier this month that Sanders supporters “prefer Clinton to Trump by an 86-to-10 margin.”

Still, some of the most ardent Sanders supporters may never be persuaded to back Clinton. To them, she represents a living through-line of the last 25 years of Democratic politics, sharing none of the credit — more than 30 million jobs, the appointment of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Motor Voter, the Brady Bill, the Family and Medical Leave Act, the Children’s Health Insurance Program, the Northern Ireland peace process, et cetera — while wearing the scarlet letter of what they see as unforgivable failings: NAFTA, welfare reform, Wall Street deregulation, and mass incarceration.

Shouting “Ralph Nader” at Sanders supporters will probably achieve the opposite of the desired effect. The Vermont Senator has clearly earned the right to stay in the race until the last primary vote is counted, as Hillary Clinton did in 2008. The Sanders activists have built the most successful insurgent presidential bid since at least Ronald Reagan in 1976 — unless you count President Obama’s 2008 run. They can use the tremendous support they’ve marshaled to tear down Clinton and reject the legitimacy of the primary process, or they can join Bernie Sanders — by working above all else to stop Donald Trump.

By endorsing the idea that the winner of the majority of primary votes and pledged delegates has won the primary contest — despite genuine complaints about process, which Clinton’s 2008 team also had — Sanders would show that he grasps the magnitude of the threat Trump represents.

His supporters might not agree with this decision, but it would be a powerful signal that could open up room for good faith debates about changing the primary process and incorporating some of Sanders’ popular policy prescriptions in the party platform. This will only happen, however, if those who oppose Trump think about what unites them.

So here are five things for every American of good faith to consider sooner rather than later.

  1. If Trump wins, he will have big Republican Congressional majorities eager to reverse everything Obama has done.
    If Trump wins, Republicans are likely to control the House and the Senate at least through 2020 and build on the huge majority of state legislatures they already control. Trump’s number one goal will be avoiding a primary challenge, and the GOP’s main goal will be erasing anything Obama achieved and throwing out any rules that might prevent them from doing it. That means 20 million Americans losing their health insurance, Wall Street freed of any regulations that might prevent another financial crisis, and a reversal of any attempt to fight climate change. Yep, the future of the planet is actually at stake.
  2. There’s a huge opportunity to take Congress and expand on Obama’s legacy.
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    A united Democratic party could make dreams of turning Arizona and Georgia into swing states more reliable than Trump’s skin tone. The things that make Trump popular with Republicans repulse swing voters. A united attack on his con-man ways could give us the chance to elect a Congress that will not only sustain Obamacare but build in a Medicare public option, while making our tax rates more progressive and putting new restrictions on big banks — as both Sanders and Clinton have proposed.
  3. The GOP will be mostly united — and Trump will be more agile than any Republican before him.
    Mega-donor Sheldon Adelson is already on the Trump train and Paul Ryan will soon join him, Reince Priebus assures us. Trump has wrapped up the nomination soon enough that he’ll have the resources and support needed to win. While there may not be enough white men in America to elect Trump, a united GOP would be poised to capitalize on a divided Democratic Party. Trump has no actual beliefs, which is a huge advantage when you’re representing an unpopular party with a track record of failure. And if there are any cracks among the left, his stubby little fingers will find them.
  4. The Democratic convention could be a historically clarifying event.
    The only two living Republican presidents and the last GOP nominee for president have all said they have no plans to support Trump. But Dick Cheney and Dan Quayle back him. The GOP nominee is planning a spectacular for his convention, studded with reality stars to represent a party hollowed out by hostile takeover. Compare that to the Democratic stage: President Obama, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Bill Clinton, and more, all making the case for Hillary Clinton and a Democratic future. The only way this won’t be a huge advantage in the war to stop Trump is if the convention descends into “chaos” over internecine differences.
  5. The Supreme F*cking Court.
    If Trump looks like he can win, the Republican Senate will never confirm Merrick Garland. The best chance of turning to the Supreme Court toward the center-left will be gone and at least one — and as many as four — justices will essentially be appointed by the Heritage F*cking Foundation, the ultra-right wing “think tank” that the candidate with the convictions of a Macy’s Day parade float says will give him a list of names. Heritage not only wants to end a woman’s right to control her body, they also want to undo the federal government’s power to set a minimum wage, fight discrimination, and run programs like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid.

The future of the world’s climate, the American middle class, and generations of progressive progress are at stake in November. And the sooner that all Democrats unite, the more likely it is we can avoid a catastrophe that by now everyone should see coming.

Photo: Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Bernie Sanders greets supporters after a campaign rally in Salem, Oregon, U.S., May 10, 2016. REUTERS/Jim Urquhart 

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  1. underledge May 16, 2016

    Sanders is the only choice for the democratic nomination for president.

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    1. King of America May 16, 2016

      He’s no longer a choice – he lost. Time to get over it.

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      1. laurele May 16, 2016

        No, he hasn’t. Time to stop disenfranchising those of us in late voting states.

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        1. JPHALL May 17, 2016

          Wow! You are such a delusional true believer. Bernie needs to get 100%+ of the remaining delegates. How is he going to do that?

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  2. Debreceni Donald May 16, 2016

    Only problem with this plea is the candidate: Clinton has shown no aptitude for changing to face a Reality TV star with a 25million fan base. Wonking won’t do it. I have no faith in Clinton the candidate while I do admire Clinton the potential president. Sanders can beat Trump; Clinton will not. She unfortunately is the Jeb! of the democratic party whose great chance was 2008 and she blew it in one of the feeblest, poorest campaigns. A repeat of that will bring about all 5 of these disasters on your list.

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    1. True.
      She is also a charismatic as a dead cat.

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    2. Julius Hayden May 16, 2016

      I agree that we need a POTUS who will instill policies and actions that will positive affect the “future of the world’s climate, the American middle class, and generations of progressive progress”. So far All I’ve heard is status quo from the Clinton Camp. Her message is “elect me and I’ll keep doing what BHO has been doing” which has dodged or made worse the issues. As Bernie has said: if Hillary wants our votes SHE must convince us that she deserves them.

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      1. King of America May 16, 2016

        Yes, what a terrible President Obama has been, except for all the progress.

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    3. Dominick Vila May 16, 2016

      I support Hillary for the same reasons you do. I believe she is the most qualified and experienced candidate running, but like you, I also believe she is the worst campaigner of the three. Her wonkish speeches demonstrate command of issues that ought to be paramount in our decision to vote in November. Unfortunately, she does not have any charisma. Saying that she is boring and uninspiring would be an under statement. Forget Benghazi and e-mails, her biggest problem is herself.
      I voted for her in the primaries, and plan to vote for her in November, but I can’t say that I am impressed or excited.

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      1. Karen May 16, 2016

        And wisdom is in the knowing of how to separate her weak campaigning skills from her knowledge and experience in the political arena. Bernie may be speaking for a lot of people but his record is weak.

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        1. Dominick Vila May 16, 2016

          …and the chances of implementing most of his proposals are slim to none. I like much of what he has proposed, but I think he is trying to accomplish too much too fast.

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          1. Karen May 16, 2016

            I like many of his proposals as well but the -socialist -label will be his undoing. All the people who worry about the people getting freebies (as they like to call them) don’t seem to recognize the freebies given to the 1%. I stand by my previous statement, real change happens slowly and to think we can throw out our current form of governance and start out fresh on the day Sanders (or Trump, for that matter) is elected is foolish.

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Hillary will be primaried in 4 years. We can’t afford incremental change when it comes to healthcare, military intervention and climate change. Bernie will end up as the savior of the Democratic Party and remembered as the Father of modern progressivism. Hillary gets one term.

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          3. King of America May 16, 2016

            You are freaking delusional.

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          4. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Get lost troll.

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          5. King of America May 16, 2016

            How about you get lost, instead? All you do is call people trolls; I can set up a tiny script to replace you.

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          6. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            I am voting for Hillary. You lost this one. Get over it. Move on troll.

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          7. King of America May 16, 2016

            That’s great; stop spreading right-wing smears and conspiracy theories about her every chance you get, then. Oh wait, you can’t because you’re freaking delusional.

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        2. Kathy C. May 16, 2016

          Bernies record IS alot stronger than HRC Bernie has done more for veterans,middle class and minorities than HRC ever will. Name ONE thing HRC has done besides change names to things!!

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        3. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          Enough with the Bernie bashing. Be quiet do not take victory laps and let’s let the Bernie supporters vote for Hillary. Brow beating them does not get them to help us in November. Somethings are better left unsaid.

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  3. Dominick Vila May 16, 2016

    The reasons to unite and prevent the damage that a Trump presidency, with a Republican super majority, would do not only to what President Obama has accomplished, but to everything that has been accomplished since the Civil Rights days, and the relative security we have enjoyed (minus 9/11), are obvious. What is important, however, is to make an effort to understand why so many seemingly rational Americans support a man like Donald Trump.
    The main reasons for the Donald Trump phenomena are fear of changes fueled by a variety of reasons, ranging from economic and labor changes such as off shoring or outsourcing, corporate GREED, the effect of automation/robotics on the labor market, rising skill level demands to qualify for high paying jobs that are currently going to foreign professionals, demographic changes including low fertility rates and the subsequent aging of the population in industrialized nations, immigration driven by misery and social unrest in Third World countries, cultural changes that are unacceptable to the dominant segment of our society, the huge economic schism between those who have it all and the masses that are struggling to make ends meet, the conviction that the government is the enemy rather than a tool to advance the interests of society, a heavily armed and increasingly violent society, and religious fervor at a time of great uncertainty.
    Understanding the reasons for the widespread discontent that exists in the wealthiest nation on Earth, and taking steps to off set the mystique being cynically articulated by a charlatan who does not have a plan to solve any of our problems, and who only thinks about what is best for him, is the challenge that Democrats, and rational Republicans, must address in a way that convinces most Americans that our problems and the challenges we face are solvable if we unite, and take positive steps to solve them.

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  4. John May 16, 2016

    the reason this argument falls on deaf ears for the majority of us is; Clinton is under federal investigations which are going to come to a
    read just before the election, she vigorously supported ousting the
    democratically elected president of Honduras and since that country has
    claimed the #1 spot for most politically motivated murders and poverty
    as the president placed by the US filled his pockets with cash and took
    the role of dictator (there are a couple more of these instances too),
    she supported all the trade deals that have been disastrous and the list
    goes on, her voting record is pro war and anti-99% – the fact that she its not favored is not because of Democrats or Republicans it is because we are sick of the direction our largely bought and paid for politicians have sold and destroyed our natural resources without regard and basically eroded everything that made this country a prosperous civilized society second to none. – Bernie is the voice that this country needs, i believe Trump represents the same thing to my fellow citizens.

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    1. FireBaron May 16, 2016

      All of these “investigations” are items which she has already been cleared of all liability of wrongdoing. Get your head out of your rectal orifice and realize that both Hillary and Bernie could beat whoever the Republicans field, but if their supporters are not willing to back the other then we will see justices who make Antonin Scalia and Sam Alito look like flaming liberals.

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      1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

        When it comes to the server nobody has been cleared of anything until Comey realeases the report to the DOJ.

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      2. iamproteus May 16, 2016

        “All of these “investigations” are items which she has already been cleared of all liability of wrongdoing.”
        While this statement may be factually correct, we must keep in mind the equally correct fact that, to conservatives, the facts are irrelevant when they contradict their “talking points”. The accusations are all that matters.

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    2. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

      Show us the legal documentation of Clinton’s federal investigation. If you are talking about Benghazi, it is now Gowdy who is being investigated by the FBI and the CIA for his coochie cooing with foreign entities on behalf of his Koch mentors.

      He provided edited emails to make Hillary look bad. Men like you have NO balls and you will do anything to make sure the Presidency stays in the hands of men. Not going to happen. Not when when are paid unequal salaries and pay the same taxes as you male tyrants.

      When Sandra Day O’Connor dared to be the first female nominee for the SC, she did precisely what Hillary is doing now…She opened the door for 3 more women on the SC. Some reason you jackass men can’t handle that?

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      1. Dan S May 16, 2016

        I’m willing to vote for Hillary making her our 1st US President. If Elizabeth Warren had run she would’ve been my 1st pick. There are rumors though that Hillary may invite her to be on the ticket with her. Elizabeth makes a wonderful pit bull continuously attacking the Dump

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      2. iamproteus May 16, 2016

        Eleanore, enough of the “man bashing”. It is counter productive. There are many men such as myself and Dan S who will happily back (and vote for) Hillary if she becomes the Dem nominee.

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        1. Duckbudder May 16, 2016

          I’ll be voting for a woman.

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  5. Richard Flynn May 16, 2016

    Cooler heads have to prevail and I don’t think progressives are so blind as to hand this country over to the likes of Trump. Progressives are pissed at the same things Trump followers are and more. Many stolen elections and the resulting damage to the country and arguably the world but have not let anger reduce them to the level of desperation seen on the right.

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  6. Kathy C. May 16, 2016

    Why in the world would Bernie supporters want to support HRC whose only goals are to support the Republicans and the 1%? To become 1st woman president and 1st husband and wife to be elected president. WHY back someone who is constantly lying to get votes, blocking and rigging democratic system to win, is plagued with scandal and is ready to go to war at a drop of a hat and owes everyone BUT the people? Bernie owes NOBODY BUT THE PEOPLE!!!!! WHY do you NEVER report on the thousands marching and attending rallies for Bernie?????More turn out for Bernie than Hillary so sad their votes are suppressed!!!

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    1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

      I totally agree with you. However we now need to hold our noses and make sure we have a country to save in 4 years. At that the Dems will have to put up a progressive to primary Hillary or we will have built a 3rd party. So please do what you have to do. The movement is here and the revolution is coming, it is just not our time yet. It will be in 2018 and 2020. Join brand new congress and let’s make the progressive changes we need. The giant has awoken we will have our day but we can’t be stupid. It is what we do after this election that will determine our future. We cannot have Trump and we will if we are Berne or bust. I hate this option too but it is the only one.

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    2. TZToronto May 16, 2016

      Why? It’s because there are a lot of Americans who don’t know what a democratic socialist is. He’ll be branded a communist by the Republicans, and the knee-jerkers will scream, “COMMUNISTS!!” While Bernie is probably the best person still running, he’d have a hard time governing if elected. He’s definitely not a Republican, so Republicans in Congress wouldn’t support him; and he’s not Democratic enough to be guaranteed Democratic support. Hillary Clinton is the only viable choice for thinking people. I just hope that Bernie’s supporters can see the bigger picture, that the Presidency isn’t the only issue, that the Senate and House must be returned to Democratic control, and that the Supreme Court is the real prize in this election.

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    3. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

      Why areYOU supporting Sanders? Why not just do yourself a favor and shut your angry middle aged mouth and listen to what Hillary has said in everyone of her speeches?

      Is it because you Sanderistas want you want just like the big babies you all are? First of all, nothing in your post is remotely truthful. Do you always make up lies?

      Sanders wags his fingers, spits when he talks and repeats himself over and over and over ad infinitum, ad nauseum. When the hell is he going to come up with his tax records? And don’t even dare go there with that BS that he gave his 2014 tax records…the ones he knew would support that lie that he isn’t a rich man. What’s he hiding? Answer that before you put Hillary down.

      You aren’t a woman..YOu are a MAN dependent woman who get make it through life without a man like Sugar Daddy Sanders handing MY tax dollars to you freeloaders.

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      1. Kathy C. May 16, 2016

        Sanders DOES NOT flip flop like YOUR queen. He has been fighting for the same things for 40 yrs. Bernie cares for the middle class unlike HRC. NO nothing is free it is called STOPPING the handouts to the 1%,, making them pay taxes and use that money on the rest of Americans. Look at all the voter suppression and scandals surrounding HRC when Independents can NOT vote and voter registrations turn up missing. Let the people decide NOT super delegates who can be bought and paid for. As a veteran I support Bernie totally. Time to take care of veterans instead of creating moore

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        1. RED May 16, 2016

          Careful Kathy, contradicting Eleanore means she will likely accuse you of being a man pretending to be a woman, just keep women down!!

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          Hillary has not once since she declared herself a candidate flip flopped. That would be YOUR flip flopper Sanders. Some reason that ole weasel can’t come up with the same number of years of tax records as his opponent? 16 years is what Hillary provided.

          Okay..so you think Sanders all by himself is going to play dictator and demand the 1% hand it ALL over? Boy are you stupid or what? All he has to do is try and these slick articles will send their money into the Caymen Islands and any other tax free haven they can.

          You want scandals? Try Brainey Janey and why Burlington College demanded she resign as university president for trying to make a pretty profit for selling college property to one of her and Sanders many cronies. YOu want more? Right now the FEC is investigating Sanders because he illegally used campaign funds YOU donated to take Brainey Janey to an unauthorized trip to the Vatican. He was not on a state trip authorized by the state department.

          As for Hillary scandals, the FBI and the Joint Chiefs have already all exxonerated Hillary…are you saying they are lying too? Get a life. A vote for Sanders is a vote for the Republican party and you are NO Democrat. YOu are a suck up Sanderista trying to ram him down our throats.

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        3. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          Eleanore is a paid GOP troll. Ignore him/her/it.

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      2. JohnJ May 16, 2016

        So glad you are here to place shame where due: your inexcusable comments in support of corrupt establishment collusion. A perfect match.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          I don’t make excuse for truth and facts I know I can prove. Sanders is a Sugar Daddy some women in this country are a tad too used to living off of.

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          1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Eleanore is a paid GOP troll who is trying to get Bernie supporters to go for Trump. Ignore ignore ignore.

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          2. Duckbudder May 16, 2016

            Eleanore sounds like a man? No?

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      3. RED May 16, 2016

        Wow!! Never cease to amaze. “You are a MAN dependent woman who get make it through life without a man like Sugar Daddy Sanders handing MY tax dollars to you freeloaders.” Just wow!! And your a supposed democrat? Unbelievable!! I constantly see you complaining about Red States taking money from Blue States and “freeloading,” which is perfectly true and fits with progressivism, but now it’s men taking your tax dollars? Seriously? I don’t think I’ve seen a more fitting representation of what being an ignorant Con actually means, you’ve shown us perfectly. Whereas most Cons vilify people based on their race, ethnicity, country of origin but Eleanore prefers to vilify people based on their gender. Hmm, so if someone born as a woman but feels they are actually male, are they evil too? Or vice a versa, what f someone is born male but chooses a female gender identity, are they permitted in to your good graces? Or will they always be tainted with maleness?

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          I do not like women who cannot be independent. Did all women exit the birth canal with a man attached?

          But the reason it pisses me off is because for 44 years of my employment these women played Donna Reed to Father Knows Best and all they had to do was get their MRS degree. Meanwhile, those of us in the trenches were paying their way.

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      4. laurele May 16, 2016

        You admitted to having previously been a Republican. Based on these comments, it’s clear you still are one.

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      5. Duckbudder May 16, 2016

        Nice way of winning people over Eleanore. Honey vs Vinegar thing ya know?

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    4. proterozoic May 16, 2016

      “HRC whose only goals are to support the Republicans and the 1%”

      The Republicans are her worst enemies. Get a grip.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

        Actually, women like Sanders because he’s the doting Daddy they never had. Of course, these are the also the women who rely so heavily on a man, they can’t make it without one.

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        1. proterozoic May 16, 2016

          So? I rely heavily on a man for all my needs & expenses. What’s the big deal?

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  7. itsfun May 16, 2016

    Seems the winner of the election will be the one who is hated the least. Bernie is the only still running that people actually like and believe. The establishment fix is in on Bernie, so he has no chance. The two establishments cannot accept the fact people are sick and tired of them telling us what we want. Instead the establishments basically ignore us. Believe it or not, the people in this country actually know what they want for the country.

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  8. FT66 May 16, 2016

    Unity is most important when a group has one goal in common of accomplishing anything. In this election where a lot is a stake, we need to unite as fast as we can. We know there are some who still are not willing yet to support the candidate which they didn’t support during primaries. This group need time to heal. We know time helps a lot in healing. At this moment time is not in our side. We need to start the healing process as soon as we can, unite, vote for our Party and send Trump back to his TOWERs.

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    1. JohnJ May 16, 2016

      It is not our party, It is the less harsh party of the .01%. The Democratic party is part of the machinery that has cheated to keep Bernie Sanders from being the nominee. What you propose (holding the nose and voting for ‘our’ party) has been done again and again with very bad results. For my whole life (goes back to awareness of 1968 election) the first line of defense against progressives has been the core Democrats. Enough is enough.

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    2. Dominick Vila May 16, 2016

      The future makeup of the Supreme Court should be reason enough for every Democrat and Independent to vote in November. We may be able to survive four years of economic, fiscal, and foreign policy incompetence, but the consequences of a SCOTUS dominated by zealots will not only result in the end of many of the social gains made during the last century, but would have long lasting consequences for us, our children, and grandchildren.
      As an aside, I hope Democrats wake up and let everyone know that the precedent established by the current GOP controlled Congress applies to ALL future presidents, regardless of political party affiliation. No more SCOTUS nomination during the last year of a president’s term in office.

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    3. laurele May 16, 2016

      Eff your “healing process.” You completely don’t get it. Time will not change ANYTHING. We will NEVER vote for that corrupt Wall Street shill who belongs in prison, especially after all the crap she pulled during the primaries. We don’t want a one percenter who will continue the status quo. What part of that don’t you understand?

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      1. FT66 May 17, 2016

        Can you learn how any competition is done? You can’t get two winners. A civilised loser always congratulates the winner and leave to fight another day. It is seems you are: me, me, me, and only me.

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  9. pjm19606 May 16, 2016

    The writer of the crap, Jim Urquhart, wants Bernie supporters to “fall in line” when it’s Bernie supporters who are , in fact, rejecting our 2 party system altogether. Urquhart doesn’t get us at all, nor does he understand the chief problem affecting Americans: The US IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. Instead, this bafoon is just a shill for Hillary. In the end, without Sanders, the election will once again be reduced to the choice between the lesser of 2 evils. This is how the 1% was created and has survived. Americans are the most stupid voting population on the entire planet.

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  10. Hillary can go jump inna lake.
    She has nothing to offer me, or anybody I know.
    I supported Bernie, & now there is nobody in the race that represents my interests.
    Hate to bust your balloon, Urquhart, but I Won’t vote for somebody who doesn’t represent me.

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    1. Karen May 16, 2016

      No vote is a vote for Trump. Do you think he’ll be representing you if he makes it to the WH? … and you think you have it bad now! I find it frightening to think how bad it will get. I’ll be supporting whoever our candidate becomes. I encourage you to rethink your position.

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      1. iamproteus May 16, 2016

        Karen, now there is a position I can get behind. If my only choice is to either vote for Trump or ANY Democrat, I will vote for ANY Democrat! And make no mistake….I WILL vote!

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    2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

      Actually we have the Supreme Court to think about. I am no Hillary fan as my prior posts clearly reveal. However the math won’t work for us and although this process is disgusting we must support the nominee in November. Then we must work to change our party for the better or have established a third party party by 2020. We must elect Hillary (barring an indictment) and then make sure she is primaried in 2020. Check out Brand New Congress and help us forge a more progressive future. Hillary will be remembered as the end of the corrupt political system and Bernie will be the Father of Progressivism. We have to do what we have to do so that in 4 years we have a country to save. God Bless You. God Bless America.

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      1. Why in God’s Name do you think a Hillary appointee would be any better?
        Or, indeed, any different?

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        1. Paul Bass May 16, 2016

          So instead you vote for a politician that does the EXACT OPPOSITE of serving the needs of EVERYBODY? That benefits America?

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            A Hillary appointee could see President Obama on the SC…and won’t you hateful little turds go nuts over that?

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          2. No.
            I simply vote 3rd Party, or don’t vote.

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          3. iamproteus May 16, 2016

            Vote 3rd party vs. don’t vote? That’s a choice? Same result.

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        2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          Much better and
          different especially on gun control, immigration, voting rights, abortion etc…. We have to think about our children and the damage done by Trump. Do what we have todo and make sure she is primaried in 2020. We may have lost this battle but we will win the war. Trump will set us back way more than Hillary. We can’t allow this.

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          1. And what about the important issues?
            Not those distractions you brought up.
            Campaign finance reform.
            The growing, corrupt influence on corporations in America, today.
            Breaking up the Big Banks.
            What about the important issues?

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            All in time. And much of what I discussed is important especially the voter suppression that is running rampant. How does Trump move us closer to the progressive society we are after? How does another Scalia or two help us? We need to make sure Hillary is primaried in 2020.

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          3. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            The movement is here and the Democrat establishment has been exposed as awash in special interest money where they are all on the take. Bernie has changed everything. Hillary will be the last of her kind but simply cannot have Trump or the GOP selecting our Supreme Court. See brand new congress and get to work with me. Our time is gonna come.

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          4. laurele May 16, 2016

            Bernie supporters have NOT “lost this battle,” as the battle is not over. And even if it comes to that, voting for Hillary is not “What we have to do.” You don’t speak for me or for the 100,000 Bernie supporters who have signed a pledge to never vote for Hillary.

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Sanders lost the minute he decided to blame Brainey Janey for not coming up with his tax records…the ones he knows show he is a wealthy man. More interesting to me is how he will get around the FEC’s investigation into his allowing foreigners to donate to his campaign. Big time federal crime that.

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          6. laurele May 16, 2016

            Lying again. Bernie is NOT wealthy. And Hillary is the queen of taking campaign donations from foreigners. Is her latest campaign tactics an effort to protect all her flaws onto Bernie?

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          7. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Then how the hell does he afford 4 homes in Vermont? That is a state where homes sell for over $450,000. Try again liar.

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          8. laurele May 16, 2016

            He does not own four homes.

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          9. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            I I do not believe in signed pledges. I believe in reality and the importance of turning around Citizens United and these voter suppression laws and keeping abortion legal. Trump will do the opposite. I appreciate your nobility but the results will be catastrophic. I signed the same pledge but prior to Trump becoming the nominee. Politically we totally agree and I want Bernie to stay in but I will be voting for the Dem nominee no matter what. Love and fight another day. Never Trump. See brand new congress.

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          10. laurele May 16, 2016

            For many of us, those signed pledges ARE reality. I’m not waiting; I’m fighting today, and I will never vote for Hillary.

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          11. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            The fight is over unless she is indicted. But if you prefer Trump over Hillary so be it.

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      2. laurele May 16, 2016

        Sorry, can’t do that. I will vote for progressive Senators and Congressional representatives but never for Hillary. No one has the right to tell me I have to vote their way.

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    3. Paul Bass May 16, 2016

      Then you are an idiot. Simply put, willing to cut off your own nose to spite your face.

      Yes, I know, no one changes their mind after being called an idiot, but since you are in effect voting for Trump if not HRC, then by your actions, you ARE an idiot. Congrats, at least we at NM now all know.

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      1. I am simply not voting, or voting for a third party.
        If there are idiots in the room, they are people who support politicians that do not serve their needs.

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        1. TZToronto May 16, 2016

          So at least vote for a Senator of Representative even if you withhold your vote for President. The Supreme Court is the real prize since the next four justices will be on the Court long after the 2016 President has left the White House. The Democrats must retake the Senate.

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          1. I certainly intend to vote for the Congressional Seats.
            But no Democrat has run for the House in my District for ten years.
            I am marooned in Tea Farty County.

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          2. TZToronto May 16, 2016

            That’s a problem. . . . But you never know. There may be enough people like you who are turned off as much by Trump as they are by Clinton. They may not understand that the real contest is for control of Congress, and they may just stay home.

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          3. Nope locals are mad for Trump.
            Oddly, they also seem to have a grudging fondness for Bernie….

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          4. TZToronto May 16, 2016

            Too bad . . . I guess you can’t teach smart.

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        2. iamproteus May 16, 2016

          We NEED to defeat Trump and every vote counts toward that goal! To vote for a 3rd party or not vote at all is not a viable option.

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          1. From where I sit, there is no functional difference between Trump & Hillary.

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          2. iamproteus May 17, 2016

            Maybe you should find a seat with a better view.

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      2. RED May 16, 2016

        Hey Paul, I would like to present another side or position. First I can say with absolute certainty that I know Trump would be a disaster and could actually bring about some unbelievably horrible consequences. But can you understand how many of us feel that in every election, most especially Presidential the Democrats are putting up a candidates who don’t reflect our beliefs, who take as much corporate money as the Cons, and who generally support big business over our needs and the needs of working people. And then when we don’t like these candidates or disapprove of their policies or positions, we are told “better than a Republican, lesser of two evils.” Not only that but HRC is pretty much a Republican from a different time period. So at what point do we get to withhold our vote and make the democratic party answerable or just leave the party altogether? Either way they don’t get our vote. Or as many suggest we should just continue to support the lesser of two evils? Do you think the Democratic party will ever listen to us if we continue to support their lesser of two evil candidates? Do you think the Democratic Party will ever return to working for the people, labor, middle class, if we continue to vote for the lesser of two evils? And I suspect that most democrats recognize that Hillary is not what we would call Progressive and are just voting for her out of a sense that we must unite to prevent Trump.

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        1. Karen May 16, 2016

          And if that were the only reason, it’s good enough for me. Our most looming problem at the moment is to thwart a Trump presidency. May be the best thing you will ever do for your country.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            It isn’t the only reason you moron. I live in NJ where Trump had 2 casinos. He lied to taxpayers in NJ when he said he had to shut them down because “so many casinos were opening in other states.” He lied and hid the fact that he had a $22 million fine from the U.S. Treasury (FinCEN) for laundering money to terrorists. He did this by allowing his Middle Eastern high rollers to launder money in his casinos. He was warned 3 or 4 times by the FEC and he continued to ignore the warnings until they shut down the casinos. And before you go there, shutting down the casinos meant thousands out of work..You happy about that? It also meant hundreds of businesses closing who provide supplies to his casinos…More joy from you meanspirited nuts? But the worst is that Trump stuck taxpayers for billions in tax subsidies he got just for locating his casinos in NJ. We also get stuck for that helicopter landing strip he got as a business freebee…Jumping for joy yet?

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          2. Karen May 16, 2016

            Eleanore I could appreciate your enthusiasm more if you could refrain from calling everyone who doesn’t express themselves as you do, a moron.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            If they are supporting a weasel or a billionaire slime ball, what should anyone call these voters? It’s time these people stopped presuming they know what goes on outside their states. They don’t. But any day they want to live in the rat race we in the Metro area do, knock yourselves out.

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          4. laurele May 16, 2016

            NJ has now been deemed to be a swing state in November!

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Wrong…I’ve lived in NJ my entire life. So much for what you know. You do realize that your Sanders are easily proven wrong don’t you?

            Eagleton Institute in NJ published a poll that has Hillary 33% points ahead of both TRump and Sanders. Try again liar.

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          6. laurele May 16, 2016

            You need to direct that “liar” charge to Hillary. Lying is her specialty. As for that poll, it has about the same accuracy as the one that showed Hillary way ahead of Bernie on the day before the Michigan primary.

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          7. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Three unbiased sources already proved that your boy SAnders lies by omission. He just doesn’t tell his supporters the truth..Don’t ask, don’t tell..that works in dictatorships tootsie..not in a democracy.

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          8. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            GOP TROLL ALERT.

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        2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          We do not withhold our vote for Hillary this last time. Instead we work like mad to make sure the Dems primary Hillary in 2020 with a liberal Supreme Court and a Bernie like candidate. A few good things will happen under Hillary and nothing good will happen under Trump. You think the voter suppression laws are bad now? Do you want abortion to be illegal. Do you want a white supremist in the WH? I know this is a terrible choice but we must focus on what happens after the election. Google brand new congress.

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      3. laurele May 16, 2016

        No, not voting for Hillary is not equivalent to voting for Trump, and Hillary’s supporters’ constant bullying with that line is not going to win their candidate any support. I’m voting FOR Bernie, whether he is on the ballot as the Democratic nominee, or I have to write him in. #NeverHillary

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    4. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

      Sorry moron…a penis and testicles are not a Constutional requirement for the presidency. The only men and women in this country who NEVER accept change are the ones who live off the rest of us.

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      1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

        Get out of here you idiot. Every time you post you lose votes for Hillary. Scram you GOP paid troll.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          awww…little moroneinstein hates being told the truth. Men like you are on your way out. Do us all a favor and go hole up in your little Neanderthal caves. If you can’t stand the heat, get the hell out of the frying pan. Freaks of nature like you should be seen to and altered.

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          1. Karen May 16, 2016

            You are so rude. You are not doing Hillary Clinton any favors when you insult people like you do.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            You are correct. Truth is sometimes referred to as a “rude awakening.” If by rude, you are asking me to be cutesy, coy and play up to men like you’ve had to do, please…I’ve worked for more then 3 decades outnumbered by men. Like Hillary, you either fight like a man or they eat you alive. But do go on with your cutesy, coy little girl routine. I’m sure the boys love you for it.

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          3. Karen May 16, 2016

            You make even less sense when you act like you’re the only woman who’s found her way in a man’s world. Quit generalizing and stick to real issues.

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          4. Eleanore Whitaker May 17, 2016

            I had 5 brothers and half brothers..YOu didn’t. I had 1 ex, 2 sons, 11 nephews and worked for nearly 44 years with an all male sales department in two major corporations consisting of 32 or more men your hick state doesn’t even have and you didn’t. I also worked in the all male environmental engineering fields as the ONLY female accounting manager/tech writer…We all reported to the owner of the company. One was a PhD from MIT and the other was educated at Cambridge in England. YOU want to try again dipshit?

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          5. Karen May 17, 2016

            WOW. ….you have had a tougher life than anyone else has ever had. Did they all treat you poorly?

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          6. Eleanore Whitaker May 17, 2016

            Wow…NO…What I learned from them is priceless. I learned to never allow anyone, man or woman, to tell me what I can and can’t do. I also learned from them the art of timing and how to think and fight like a man even though I much prefer all things female.

            I know what men like and what they hate most. I ought. With that many men in my life, not to mention the males I’ve dated, everything from a priest I nearly defrocked to a legal prosecutor and a robotics engineer I found immensely interesting. Obviously, I have no time for ignorance and cutesy, coy women who think going all girly girl with guys is what they like best. I know they do for the moment. But for the long term they much prefer a woman they know they can trust to be sincere and honest and be intelligent.

            If there is one very handy little tool I learned from all the men I’ve always been outnumbered by, it is to NEVER EVER be predictable.

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          7. Karen May 17, 2016

            Eleanore you make a lot of good points that I happen to feel would be better served by eliminating the male bashing, name calling insults you try to use for effect…that’s all

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          8. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            GOP paid troll. Alert !!!

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          9. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            GOP TROLL ALERT !!!!!!!
            Eleanore is chasing votes from Hillary to Trump

            Ignore. Ignore. Ignore

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        2. laurele May 16, 2016

          Wow, then I should post as much as possible. I’m a progressive, never GOP or conservative, but the power to lose votes for $hillary is too much to resist. Come on Bernie or Busters, keep posting. Take her (politically) down, and send her to prison, where she belongs!

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          1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            That’s not going to happen it is either steak or fish , no third choice until 2020.

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          2. laurele May 16, 2016

            Maybe not for you but definitely, yes, there is a third choice for many of us. Take your steak and fish and shove it where the Sun doesn’t shine, along with your “wait for 2020” nonsense.

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      2. Stop embarrassing yourself, and your Candidate.
        Every time somebody points out Hillary’s various problems, somebody throws herself to the ground, beats her hands & feet floor, & screams bloody murder about everybody is sexist.
        You are a liar, flat.
        I do not reject her because of gender.
        I reject her because she’s nothing but another useless shill for Big Money & the 1% !
        Our pressing Domestic issues are becoming critical, & Hillary has nothing but foreign policy! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d65d748af0d364dc02fb8342fe20037d9adcfb49acbee7b8a90b80981faf08aa.jpg

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        1. laurele May 16, 2016

          Hillary has nothing but failed foreign policy.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Prove it with legal documentation or stop posting your lies.

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          You are the ones who embarrass yourselves. Who votes for a candidate who hates the party he uses to be president? Who votes for a candidate who takes his wife to Rome uninvited by the Pope and then lies that he was?

          l don’t know who you think you or SAnders think you are fooling with the act of being Democrats. You are a Commie Socialist.

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        3. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          She is a paid GOP troll.

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    5. yabbed May 16, 2016

      You are going to wait forever for Princess Unicorn Sanders to deliver his Socialist agenda. He’s a fraud.

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      1. No more than Trump or Hillary.
        And, at least, his heart is in the right place. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/144dd947d17ae375b29d2b7c34483235ab3d8d3d1073c66c40e74f963f6dde63.jpg

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      2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

        GOP TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!!

        Please ignore this idiot.

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        1. yabbed May 16, 2016

          Show a pro Republican post I’ve ever made. I’m a life long liberal Democrat who has never voted otherwise. Sanders is not now an d never has been a member of the Democratic Party. He has voted against Democratic legislation on gun control and immigration reform and stood against President Obama’s appointees. Sanders actively attempted to recruit a challenger to President Obama’s reelection in 2012. If you think I am the only Democrat who resents Bernie Sanders imposing himself on this election and attempting to prevent Democrats from retaining the White House you are sadly mistaken.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Disagree with a winger and they show their CON colors bright red. The Sanderistas refuse to accept what we know we can prove in a court of law.

            Sanders is hiding so much that these naive loonies would rather not be seen made public.

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            You have been outed as a paid GOP troll. You chase every Bernie supporter from voting for Clinton. Scram!

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    6. laurele May 16, 2016

      Bernie is still in the race. Don’t listen to the mainstream media; they’ve been counting him out for months.

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    7. King of America May 16, 2016

      Right, right – you personally don’t have anything to lose, so why bother doing anything to protect women or minorities? Very progressive.

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        1. King of America May 17, 2016

          I don’t really care what excuses you use to excuse your Trump support to yourself, though.

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          1. Sanders support, Oh Varlet.

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          2. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yeah, no, you’re supporting Trump.

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  11. TZToronto May 16, 2016

    One problem is that not everyone sees the catastrophe that is coming. For some inexplicable reason, there are a lot of people who view Trump as a savior. They have insufficient knowledge of how things actually work to discern the difference between competence and downright ineptitude. They can’t see why Trump’s ever-flip-flopping ideas can’t work. They just assume a 1200- mile, 30-foot-tall wall will just build itself and that it will do something good for them. They think that banning Muslims from entering the country will end terrorism (when most terrorist acts in the USA have been committed by non-Muslims), and that a right-wing Supreme Court will protect their rights. They forget (or never knew) that the President doesn’t make laws, that he’s not an all-powerful ruler. (They think that President Obama is incompetent, but they can’t see that even a faintly cooperative Congress would have allowed President Obama to make their lives better and would have actually put more money in their pockets. They still believe that depriving “other” Americans of health care will somehow save them money and that their own health insurance won’t be cancelled ASAP by their insurers without the ACA due to their pre-existing conditions. These are people who denigrate science as being elitist, most likely because they weren’t interested in learning anything when they were in school (and consequently can’t understand anything scientists say, especially since most scientists

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

      Actually, the silent majority has yet to vote. So I am not in the least concerned about Trump winning. Nor am I concerned that SAnders will win.

      The silent majority is comprised of the middle class older American men and women who are not falling for the media hype. These are the savvy Americans who have NO intentions of allowing a billionaire slime ball like Trump to destroy everything President Obama had to do to restore the economy and sensibility. Nor, do we want a Republican covert op like Sanders, a weasel who is more perniciously dictatorial than Hitler. Who needs Sanders to undo everything the president did just so Sanders can play “Socialist.” Hitler was a Socialist too and Hitler, like Sanders only appealed to grossly insecure women and his Hitler youth.

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      1. TZToronto May 16, 2016

        Interesting. Spiro Agnew’s silent majority was assumed to be conservative Americans with common sense. The silent majority you refer to is made up of Americans of several different stripes who have enough sense to know that neither Trump nor Sanders would be able to govern effectively, regardless of their policies or lack thereof. How would a Republican Congress respond when Trump vetoes legislation to privatize Social Security or legislation to make abortion illegal? And how would a Democratic Congress respond when Sanders vetoes legislation that puts some restrictions on Wall Street, but not enough restrictions for Sanders? Perhaps what the silent majority is looking for is responsible centrism , leadership that makes sense and is neither too conservative nor too liberal.

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        1. Dan S May 16, 2016

          I’ve been part of the silent majority but the stakes are far too high to remain quiet. I will work hard for the presumed Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to ensure that orange buffoon with really big hands never steps foot in the Whitehouse

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  12. jabber1 May 16, 2016

    The whole country has been going downhill for the majority since St. Ronnie Raygun and his merry band of thieves stole it from the people. Bill Clinton was just as complicit as any of the republicans. I don’t like Trump but I see our choice as removing a bandaid. You can do it every so slowly and painfully (with establishment democrats) or you can do it quickly (with republicans). I don’t think we will get back on track until we hit bottom and the whole thing is destroyed.

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    1. RED May 16, 2016

      I agreed completely with your analysis or metaphor of our choices. But I do hope we don’t have to hit rock bottom to turn it around. Although I’m fairly certain the election of Trump would be rock bottom. If I were younger and single I would definitely be looking for another country to become a citizen of, one that wasn’t the leader of prisoners, inequality, racism, violence, pollution, violent sociopathic police, and on and on and on!

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      1. Dan S May 16, 2016

        Please tell me which countries you have in mind. I know a lot of folks talk about moving to Canada but that’s still too close if the USA is taken over by a fascist moron who’ll ruin our good standing with such countries like Britain

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        1. RED May 16, 2016

          Well, first, I can’t actually leave, my wife and family would never go for it. So I haven’t actually looked in to it seriously. So I’m from Alabama, been here nearly my entire life and when I look at other countries that are way more progressive and just than the U.S. they all seem to be COLD!!! Hehe, all the Nordic countries would freeze me to death. Sad!!

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          1. Dan S May 16, 2016

            My wife’s mother owns an apartment in Paris not far from the Eiffel Tower. I understand most French people speak English well enough I could get by ?

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    2. proterozoic May 18, 2016

      We already hit bottom, with Dubya.

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  13. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

    The stakes are too too high to allow another 8 more years of Republican obstruction. If Sanders cannot commit to the party he claims is establishment and also stated back in 2004 that he “hated,” why should this man be president?

    As for Trump, I’ve lived long enough in the NY/NJ Metro area to know that he will NEVER make it to the White House. I have another long history of being a Republican until 2004 when I saw exactly what the narrow minded nuts in this country were attempting: government takeover, mindless brainwashing and ramming their Bible Thumper religion down everyone’s throats.

    I know what’s right and what’s wrong and so do millions of others like me. We will not stand by while that Republican suck up Sanders destroys the Democratic Party. If he can run under that party, he better damn well commit to it or get the hell out.

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  14. yabbed May 16, 2016

    Sanders ran as a Democrat instead of what he is – a Member of the Socialist Workers Party – for the financial and media coverage benefits. He’s a user and an abuser of the system he so decries. He’s totally unqualified to be POTUS. He is, in fact, a total fraud. His pie in the sky promises to society’s neediest is cruel and inhumane. He has no policy to provide any of this Princess Unicorn promises he is manipulating. He knows no shame.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

      Sanders is a tricky little devil. He is as sly and as crafty as Cheney was. Cheney always knew the best weapon was to hide what he didn’t want others to know. This is the same thing Sanders is doing.

      His idiot wife is behind him. He even stated that she helped “write 55 pieces of legislation.” So who will be president? HIm or Her?

      That kind of woman always acts as if she is oh so superior to the rest of humanity all the while covering up what she knows would get Sanders into a huge mess. He’s already blamed her for not coming up with the rest of his tax records. It will be a hoot when the IRS does it for him.

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      1. yabbed May 16, 2016

        Well, the only pieces of legislation Sanders passed were two bill naming VT post offices so Mrs Sanders is no better at writing legislation than she is running colleges. 🙂

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          You know that and I know that and the Congressional record proves it but just try getting these SAnderistas to admit it. Then, they wonder why we have no patience for their bombastic tyrannical BS.

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  15. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

    Right now, all that Republican slash and burn is coming back to haunt. KS, IA and recently OK had to shut down schools because they ran out of money. We already know what MI did to 6 to 12,000 kids by exposing them to lead poisoning and all so their governor could save money and use untreated Flint River Water.

    Add in the coal ash in WVA water and soil, the arsenic in NC’s and now TX whining about how they need disaster money and you have to be pisspoor in math not to now that these are the very states that take the most from our federal tax dollars.

    Check the GAO.gov site. The top ten states on welfare and phony SSDI, not to mention unemployment are ALL Republican states with the exception of Maine and they already are having huge problems with their GOP governor there.

    Conservatism today is another definition for laying back and having the Dem States hand over their hard earned tax dollars. How does these states run out of money when every year they get nearly 65% of every U.S. Budget?

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  16. laurele May 16, 2016

    You have it all wrong here. Yes, Democrats should unite–but they should unite behind Bernie Sanders, not Hillary Clinton. Poll after poll has consistently showed that Bernie has the best chance to beat Trump in the fall and do so by the biggest margins. Bernie has an army of motivated volunteers, momentum, and genuinely speaks to the needs of the 99 percent.

    Bernie is NOT going to spend the Democratic convention “making the case for Hillary Clinton.” He will be at the convention to make the case that he is the best choice to represent the party going forward in November. And he will have thousands of demonstrators outside the convention hall backing him up and holding the DNC accountable for its outright cheating and rigging of the primary process against him.

    At least a third of Bernie supporters will never vote for Hillary, and I am proud to be one of them. If the best argument a candidate can muster is how terrible their opponent is and how that opponent must be stopped, then that candidate is a weak candidate to begin with. People do not vote for a negative.

    It is Hillary, not Bernie, who needs to drop out.

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    1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

      Put Trump in and you delay the movement for at least 15 years. He is that bad. Do what you have to do and replace Hillary in 4 years with a true progressive. Put Trump in and there will be nothing to save in 2020. I was Bernie or bust too but now we must be adults lose the battle but win the war. Our time is coming.

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      1. laurele May 16, 2016

        I’m not losing anything, and I’m certainly NOT subscribing to your definition of “adult” if that means voting for Hillary.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          You are not an adult. Adults know that Sanders cannot hope to produce the policies he is ramming down your naive throats. How is he going to force the 1% to hand over their wealth? How will he force 325 million Americans onto single payer in less than 8 years?

          You have NO answers. Just a lot of Sanders promises. He is about as full of promises as moonlight and roses and just as fleeting and ineffectual. Smart people know this…why don’t You?

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          1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Ignore this GOP troll. Eleanore is paid by the GOP

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            We already ignore you. WE know you are a liar who hasn’t the proof to prove what you post. I do.

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          3. King of America May 16, 2016

            Just a question, but do you do ANYTHING but claim people who disagree with you are paid shills? I mean, I get that you’re a conspiracy theorist, but jesus christ – at least three times just in this one article. Grow the hell up.

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          4. King of America May 16, 2016

            Holy crap, I just counted, and it’s actually EIGHTEEN times you’ve called other people paid trolls. What the heck is wrong with you?

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          5. laurele May 16, 2016

            Adults know no such thing. We know the policies Sanders advocates work because they brought us decades of prosperity via the New Deal, Great Society, and GI Bill. Of course government can regulate Wall Street and increase taxes on the one percent. Just look up Glass-Steagall. Smart people know that trickle down economics does not work and that policies that strengthen the middle class and build up our infrastructure are not just doable but necessary.

            Please go back to the GOP, as that is the place where your views are most welcome.

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          6. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Adults like you don’t because we up north call you “ignernts” who live so far removed from reality you still think you live as sharecroppers on plantations or in the Great Depression Era.

            Our government can do many things when and if they do not obstruct the president and they work together. Are you saying that the Republicans will work with Sanders, a Democrat (phony Democrat) when they refused to do that with Obama?

            AS for Glass-Steagall, Sanders was in office when that was repealed. He voted to repeal it. Try again..You really so not know anything about the government do you?

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          7. laurele May 16, 2016

            I actually live in the same state you do–New Jersey.

            The entire House and a third of the Senate are up for re-election this year. Why are you assuming both will go Republican? Even if they do, Bernie has a better record of working across party lines than does Hillary.

            Bernie did not vote to repeal Glass-Steagall. That is another Clinton lie.

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          8. King of America May 16, 2016

            WHAT “better record”? Sanders barely HAS a record for doing anything.

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        2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          It means not allowing a racist bigot like Trump to control the Supreme Court. It is a terrible choice I agree but we must be realistic. Hillary will be the last of the establishment but we have to have a liberal Supreme Court. Hillary will deliver that. Hold your nose like me and work your ass off for ?2018. Get involved. See brand new congress.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            You are barking up the Sanders tree…these nuts do not want anyone but Sanders for president. That’s tyranny at its best. They are willing to force other voters, if need be to forfeit voting for their conscience so Sanders can be president. Sanders at any price isn’t an election.

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Unfortunately for you and Trump almost all of these Bernie supporters will vote for Hillary. Now scram Trump troll.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            You only prove what a moron you really are. Why would I vote for the lunatic who raised my NJ property taxes because he closed his casinos here? Do you need a mental health test for that elder dementia?

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          4. laurele May 16, 2016

            No, we won’t. 100,000 of us have signed a petition pledging to never vote for her. Hillary can choose not to believe that, but she does so at her own political peril.

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          5. nina b May 16, 2016

            Wrong!

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          6. laurele May 16, 2016

            Speaking just for myself, I would vote for Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, or Tulsi Gabbard for president. Just not Hillary.

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          7. laurele May 16, 2016

            What part of “I’m not going to hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil” don’t you understand? I’M NOT VOTING FOR HER! EVER!

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      2. nina b May 16, 2016

        Trump will be lucky if he lasts a full term. Hillary will hang on for eight years and spend that eight years fighting the REAL progressive movement because progressivism works against her completely corporate interests. She’s too corrupt and her reckless sense of entitlement is dangerous. She’s broken the Democratic party by not just running a campaign against Sanders but going to WAR with Liberal Democrats and in the process, alienated them to a point that they won’t even be Democrats anymore. And she should have thought about that ahead of time.

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        1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          Hillary will be a one termer and will deliver us a more liberal Supreme Court. I hate her but Trump is not an option. Google brand new congress. Hillary will not even be on the ticket in 2020. Lose the battle but win the war. This the last cycle for the dem establishment. What is important is what us progressives do after this election.

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          1. nina b May 16, 2016

            My conscience will not allow me to vote for Hillary Clinton. I’ll vote for all progressive down-ballot candidates, but I will never vote for Hillary Clinton.

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            That is your choice but you may not be allowed to vote if you are not the right skin color or have the right religious affiliation by 2020. None of the victims of the holocaust thought Hitler was capable either. Good luck and thank you for supporting the progressives down ticket.

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          3. laurele May 16, 2016

            When are you going to learn that scare tactics will not work? I’m not voting for Hillary, no matter how many times you say the apocalypse will happen if I don’t do what you want. If you’re that scared, you should be contacting the DNC and superdelegates pleading with them to support Bernie as the nominee.

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          4. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            I have been and would love to see Bernie as the nominee andI have sent him a lot of money and volunteered for his campaign. Unfortunately the DNC has decided who our nominee is for us. We will prevail in 2020. But we will lose the SC for a generation. It is difficult but we must do what is best for our movement. Trump in the WH is the worst scenario. I live in a swing state so my vote will matter. Perhaps you are not a swing state which allows you to vote conscience. I get it. God Bless You.

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          5. laurele May 16, 2016

            I don’t and won’t let the DNC decide for me, and if they want to pick someone without my input, that person is not MY nominee. You can wait for 2020, but many of us will continue the fight here in 2016. It doesn’t matter to me whether or not my state is a swing state. I’m voting for Bernie, whether he is on the ballot or whether I have to write him in. #NeverHillary

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          6. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            I will be running for Congress in 2018 with the help of brand new congress. I need these voter suppression laws turned around to be successful. I will have no chance if Trump s the President. We can have a progressive president and congress come 2020 if we play this right. This is the last cycle for the establishment. The people are rising but we are not there yet in 2016.

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          7. King of America May 17, 2016

            Your “input” is the vote you cast. Three million more people had the opposite opinion to you. THAT IS HOW VOTING WORKS.

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          8. nina b May 16, 2016

            If Hillary becomes president consider that the end of any type of democratic process. The widespread rigging she’s done through the primaries will set a precedent for all other corporate-owned candidates. Votes will no longer matter – and not just for minorities – for everyone. Whoever has the most money will buy the election. Thanks to Hillary.

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          9. King of America May 17, 2016

            What “rigging”? Post your evidence please.

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    2. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

      So Laurele speaks and you better do as she says or ELSE…or else what? I amj not voting for that weasel Sanders now or ever. Bernie won’t beat Trump becasue teh GOP which I was a member of for 33 years until 2004, won’t allow it. you are pretty niave aren’t you little girl?

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      1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

        Go away Trump paid troll !!!!

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

          If I’m a Trump troll…you must be Netanyahu’s long lost Prodigal son.

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          1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            You at best are an idiot and driving votes to Trump. You need to stop it. Scram

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    3. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

      Hillary is terrible but Trump could end the world. Do what you have to do and then replace Hillary in 4 years. Be patient don’t be rash and our time will come. At this point as progressives what is most important is what we do after this election. See brand new congress. Nothing about Trump in the WH is good for us.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

        “So what you have to do and then replace HIllary in 4 years?” Really> Without the consent of the rest of us who pay taxes? Try again.

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        1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          Goodbye GOP troll

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Toodle loo….

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      2. laurele May 16, 2016

        What I have to do is vote for Hillary against my own conscience? Who the hell are you to tell me or anyone else what we “have to do?” I wouldn’t vote for that Wall Street shill even if someone held a gun to my head.

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        1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          I am not telling what to do. I am pleading with you to give us the best chance to move our movement forward. I hate Hillary but Trump is not an option. We will lose the battle but will win the war. Our time is coming. With Teump there will be nothing left to save. We agree that Bernie is what we need but it is not happening for us 2016. Live to fight another day. Never Trump.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Yes you are. Plead all you like. I don’t belong to stupid movements. I vote for candidates I KNOW can do the job. If you want a movement, where the hell was your movement in the 44 years Sanders was in office. You will lose the battle for Sanders because he is not going to be able to accomplish a single thing without help. And, he is a covert Republican operative. I’ll go to my grave saying that. So you are a member of a covert movement to help the Republicans. Proud of yourself, you traitor?

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            GOP TROLL ALERT. You have been outed.

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          3. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

            The COUNTRY wasn’t ready for A Bernie 20 or 44 yrs ago…the right wing republicans and the corporate owned demorats have been playing the citizens like a old violin…that’s why the DNC and the RNC are both two corrupt private entities.

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          4. laurele May 16, 2016

            It IS happening for us in 2016. Take your pleas elsewhere; there isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell that I will ever vote for Hillary.

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          5. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Ok
            But remember the victims of the holocaust did not think Hitler was capable of doing what he did either. Both of us have the same political beliefs. I love Bernie too. I hope come November you will do what you feel is best for you. God Bless You.

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          6. laurele May 16, 2016

            God bless you too. I’m not changing my mind come November.

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          7. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

            A real Einstein YOUR NOT. First of all ALL national polls prove Sanders not only beats Trump, but by huge margins. Second a vote for HIlary is a continuation of the elites on wallstreet, the military industrial complex bringing us more wars..SHE will never deliver on any of her promises…she is center right polictically a war monger who believes the power of the US can and should knock off governments of foreign nations, makes US more insecure.

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          8. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            We agree. Unfortunately Bernie will not be on the ballot and Trump will be. We can’t have Trump but we can primary Hillary in 2020 and we will. We will also have the House back by then. Check out brand new congress.

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      3. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

        Why when we can have Bernie and beat them both…Time to send the Clintons like the Bush crime family to the history books….when she doesn’t win, all bets are off…she will be jailed for all she has done.

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    4. King of America May 16, 2016

      Why on EARTH should the winning candidate drop out in favour of the loser?

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      1. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

        Hilary the ONLY candidate being investigated by the FBI, HILARY the person the FBI agents say has a record worse than Watergate.

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        1. King of America May 16, 2016

          Ah, so she should drop out because of utterly baseless conspiracy theories.

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          1. George May 17, 2016

            and Bernie should drop out because hes honest?

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          2. King of America May 17, 2016

            Sanders isn’t particularly honest – no more so than any other career politician – but what on Earth do you imagine that has to do with your desire to overthrow the fair democratic victory that Clinton has won?

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          3. George May 17, 2016

            The vast majority of voters nationwide like Bernie better than Hillary and think he is more honest. Thats a fact that polls have proven and you cannot disprove.

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          4. King of America May 17, 2016

            Still nothing to do with anything I wrote. Do you need help with remedial literacy? Education is important; I can recommend several decent programs.

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          5. George May 17, 2016

            If Bernie was elected I could afford to go back to school. You should go back and take some ethics and philosophy classes….

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          6. King of America May 17, 2016

            Unfortunately there is absolutely no chance that Sanders will be elected, as he has lost already. Supporting Trump, which is what you are doing, will only make your situation worse.

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          7. George May 17, 2016

            What happens when she gets indicted?

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          8. King of America May 17, 2016

            I don’t know what happens when imaginary things come true. Since she’s not under investigation and there’s absolutely no implication that she’s ever committed a crime, why speculate?

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          9. George May 17, 2016

            every day I hear about the investigation. where you been troll?

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          10. King of America May 17, 2016

            You have never heard about an investigation of Hillary Clinton. You have heard about the FBI investigating whether classified information was posted, as they are constitutionally mandated to do. There is absolutely no chance that your fantasy about Hillary Clinton being indicted will occur, and that STILL has nothing to do with anything I have written. Have you perhaps been recently struck in the head?

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          11. George May 17, 2016

            guessing you were struck in the wallet paid troll

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          12. King of America May 17, 2016

            So you got nothing but insults and conspiracy theories, huh.

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          13. George May 17, 2016

            still cant answer the question eh? wainting for the web site experts to get back. You answer these things real fast with insults but no answer to why Hillary could pass things Bernie can not. You are a failure as a troll. You should give the money back and fall on a sword. If they let you near anything sharp.

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          14. King of America May 17, 2016

            see previous post.

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          15. Ted Sotinsky May 18, 2016

            People on the left are not going to vote for the neoliberal economic policies of H. Clinton, and certainly not her neocon foreign policy. I mean the woman is a total disgrace, and a war criminal to boot. So why defend the indefensible.

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          16. King of America May 18, 2016

            Actually people on the left are and have done so in greater numbers than they have supported Sanders.

            I hope that helps!

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          17. Ted Sotinsky May 18, 2016

            I hope it helps you to know that you don’t know what you’re talking about. God, what a suck up to H. Clinton you are. If you actually believe H. Clinton is a liberal, than maintain your delusion. This is the woman that was cheering when Gaddafi was being murdered. This is the woman that says Israel has the right to defend itself from the poorest people in the world. She no doubt was involved in the overthrow of Gaddafi and the coup in Honduras. She most likely will side with the fascists in Ukraine. She will continue to support Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex war machine. If a person is a democrat, they cannot in good conscience vote for this neocon.

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          18. proterozoic May 18, 2016

            “She most likely will side with the fascists in Ukraine”

            Now that’s interesting – I wonder if many Sanders supporters accept Putin’s Russian nationalist propaganda, or is it just you?

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          19. King of America May 18, 2016

            Yes I get that you think only your opinion matters. It’s gross as hell.

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      2. laurele May 16, 2016

        She’s not winning, and Bernie isn’t the “loser” because Hillary and the DNC have engaged in massive voter suppression and voter fraud during the primary process.

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        1. King of America May 16, 2016

          Under what metric is she “not winning”? Baffling.
          Additionally, outside of your conspiracy theory echo chambers there has been no voter suppression and no voter fraud, at least not by the DNC. Sanders simply isn’t popular.

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          1. laurele May 16, 2016

            Please. New York, Arizona, Nevada, Massachusetts, Florida, Pennsylvania–in every one of these states, there’s been voter suppression, closing of polls, mysterious registration changes, lost ballots, etc., all benefiting Hillary. Coincidence? Don’t think so. Some of these are already being investigated by the Justice Department.

            Sanders is more popular than Hillary ever was or will be, and it’s clear she’s jealous and resents him for it.

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          2. King of America May 16, 2016

            1. Those is indeed a list of states. No voter suppression or fraud took place on the DNC’s part in any of them, no matter how much innuendo you post.

            2. Sanders has never once been more popular than Clinton in this entire primary.

            I hope that helps!

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          3. laurele May 16, 2016

            Hillary can’t even get progressive Democrats to support her, let alone independents. Look at the polls. Bernie wins against Trump by the largest margins; Hillary either barely wins against Trump or loses to him.

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          4. King of America May 17, 2016

            In fact, the vast majority of progressive Democrats support Hillary Clinton. Look at, as you said, the polls – by which I mean the real polls, not whatever cherry-picked polls you read on DKos. Sanders is only higher in the general polling because – as I already told you – nobody bothers to attack the loser.

            By every single possible metric – be it pledged delegates, the base of allies she has spent decades building, or her immense popularity with the exact demographics the Democratic Party needs to win the general election, Hillary Clinton has won; your tantrum does nothing but aid Trump. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

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          5. George May 17, 2016

            majority yes, vast no. You are being paid to do this

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          6. King of America May 17, 2016

            “You’re a paid shill!” – the age-old cry of the conspiracy theorist.

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          7. George May 17, 2016

            9400+ comments . Nobody does that unless they are being paid

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          8. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes, nobody else on Disqus has EVER made thousands of comments over a period of years. Good job Scooby, you sure busted THIS case wide open.

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          9. George May 17, 2016

            Lots of people made a lot of comments, not many made 9400+ and refuse to answer questions like what can Hillary pass that Bernie could not? Shows that even you dont believe what your writing about. Its all about getting the last word and fees for your posting.

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          10. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes the ONLY possible explanation is that you aren’t an idiot, that must be it.

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          11. George May 17, 2016

            I won the argument because you could not answer the question about what Hillary could pass through congress that Bernie cannot. Go to bed troll I have proven to all you have no answer to that most important question

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          12. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes you sure did “win” the “argument” that everyone who disagrees with you is part of a vast conspiracy that only you can see. Good job, you have saved the world from those people who keep laughing at your self-important paranoia.

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          13. George May 17, 2016

            still didnt answer my question, what a paid baffoon. I had no idea Brownie was working for trump now

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          14. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes there is NO OTHER EXPLANATION for someone making thousands of posts over four+ years except that they are part of a conspiracy to destroy a candidate who has already lost. That definitely makes sense.

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          15. George May 17, 2016

            answer the question or go home troll.

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          16. King of America May 17, 2016

            I’m sorry, I was laughing too hard at your inane assumption that anyone who’s made a lot of posts is part of a conspiracy. If there was ever a question there I missed it.

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          17. George May 17, 2016

            answer the question about what Hillary could pass through congress that Bernie cannot.

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          18. King of America May 17, 2016

            Why would you imagine I would ever take you seriously after your INSANE comment?

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          19. King of America May 17, 2016

            PS: what is a “baffoon”?

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          20. George May 17, 2016

            Full Definition of buffoon

            1 : a ludicrous figure : clown

            2 : a gross and usually ill-educated or stupid person

            buffoonish play -ˈfü-nish adjective

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          21. George May 17, 2016

            Yeah I might type very well but at least I am not promoting falshoods

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          22. King of America May 17, 2016

            I’m sorry but the second part of that sentence is another lie.

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          23. George May 17, 2016

            Stll cant answer the question eh? You are a troll failure. Whats the boss gonna say when you turn in your troll sheet expecting to get paid?

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          24. King of America May 17, 2016

            I don’t really get what that has to do with you being a liar?

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          25. George May 17, 2016

            haha crooked troll cant answer the fundemental question that could support his argument. What could Hillary pass that Bernie cannot?????

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          26. King of America May 17, 2016

            You are becoming increasingly incoherent, and to be honest you weren’t coherent to start with.

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          27. George May 17, 2016

            and you are completely void of answers to support your claims. Which makes you a lightweight troll

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          28. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes, I’m DEFINITELY a troll because I have posted thousands of times over many years, we already covered this hilarious “argument” of yours. Meanwhile, your assertion that Hillary Clinton is “against” single payer continues to be 100% false, thus rendering your every post in this article entirely pointless.

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          29. George May 17, 2016

            If she won’t try to pass single-payer then there is no need for her to be president. Let someone like Bernie lead the way he is not afraid to make bold changes and we need bold changes now

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          30. King of America May 17, 2016

            That delusional statement has nothing to do with your bizarre assertion that I am being paid to post.

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          31. George May 17, 2016

            you had a bunch of chances to answer the question and you did not . That shows you do not truly believe that mrs. Clinton can do anything to promote single payer. That’s why true progressives should support Bernie it’s time for you to shut it down tonight you had a chance and you blew it she has nothing to offer the common person

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          32. King of America May 17, 2016

            Again, nothing to do with your ludicrous claim. It’s also weird that YOU are accusing ME of not answering a question, as all you have been doing is feebly trying to evade a fairly reasonable one that I asked you early on. Pathetic. With supporters like you it’s no wonder Sanders lost.

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          33. George May 17, 2016

            I quit. You must be working for trump. Nobody paying me to not answer questions like they are you. Good night troll

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          34. King of America May 17, 2016

            It’s weird how you’re accusing ME of working for Trump, since that is exactly what you are doing by posting right-wing conspiracy theories about Clinton.

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          35. George May 17, 2016

            Simple. You want Clinton to win because trump can beat her. I want bernie to win so he can beat trump

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          36. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes I well understand that you’re delusional by now.

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          37. George May 17, 2016

            dont you get paid if you dont have last word? Even if you cant answer one simple question about the candidate you say you are supporting?

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          38. King of America May 17, 2016

            See previous post.

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          39. dpaano May 24, 2016

            Your question is ridiculous…..it will only matter as to who rules Congress…the GOP or the Democrats….as to what ANYONE will be able to pass. This goes for both Bernie AND Hillary….it’s impossible to answer your question because the future is not here yet….there are a lot of variables that have to take place before anyone would know what can or can’t be passed and who can do better at getting something passed. Your question is moot! And, besides that, it’s pretty much unanswerable at this point.

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          40. George May 24, 2016

            So then Hillary supporters should not be telling us that she can get stuff done that Bernie could not. If Dems dot not get back house and senate Hillary could only pass what republicans want. Same as Bernie. However what Bernie wants is better than what Hillary wants. Bernie leads in polls against Trump

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        2. King of America May 16, 2016

          In fact, she’s not merely winning, she’s outright won – and with the third or fourth highest margin in any modern Democratic primary.

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          1. laurele May 16, 2016

            No, she hasn’t. She has not reached the required threshold of pledged delegates, and some of us have not voted yet.

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          2. King of America May 16, 2016

            So what? Sanders remains in the low 40s popularity-wise; he isn’t going to suddenly double that, no matter how big a tantrum you throw. There has NEVER been a case of a candidate losing this badly – or even half this badly – reversing that, and that isn’t about to change.

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          3. laurele May 16, 2016

            He’s not losing at all. Both candidates are going to the convention without reaching the required number of pledged delegates to win the nomination, meaning it’s all going to hinge on the superdelegates.

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          4. King of America May 17, 2016

            Clinton only needs 300 delegates to reach half the pledged delegates; there are roughly 900 left. She is very, very likely to make that total. Even if you were right, Clinton would only be in trouble if Sanders had laid any groundwork at all for his run by making alliances or supporting anyone other than himself.

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    5. John May 16, 2016

      more agree with you than not 🙂

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      1. King of America May 17, 2016

        More internet bros, maybe. Three million plus voters beg to disagree.

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  17. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

    I don’t vote for Vermont Senators who take donations from the NRA. I also do not vote for Vermont Senators who use campaign donations to take his wife on trips he can afford but pretends not to.

    I also don’t vote for Vermont Senator’s who use fuzzy math and claim a $200K salary paid for by taxpayers and then hides that he owns 4 homes.

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    1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

      We do not care for Trump paid Trolls on this site. Scram loser.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

        Aww..Not going to get the first Jewish MALE president and Netanyahu’s US consort? boooo hoooo!…Your lies prove how desperate you are. Anyone who knows me and a lot do since I’m a published author, know I have loathe The Donald since he first left his Daddy’s mansion..You really need to leave your house more often or are your Depends loaded again?

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        1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

          Go away troll.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Eat your heart out Hiney Einey

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          2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            I am voting for Hillary and you cannot stop me. Scram GOP troll.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            I don’t care who you vote for. It’s your right and privilege. I DO care who YOU tell me I have to vote for.

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          4. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Your vote for Trump will be cancelled by my vote for Hillary. Buh bye.

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2016

            Get to a mental health facility. Your mind is gone.

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          6. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            You may want to get out of that trailer once in awhile. Goodbye GOP troll.

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          7. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

            Both of you can vote for the Crooks…while the most honest man since FDR always fighting for the people of this country, no flip flops with Bernie…so go ahead either Trump or Clinton means facism is coming and the new world order billionaires running the world will be totally in charge.

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        2. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

          Eleanor your a idiot…Bernie doesn’t take money from the NRA. but HIlary has taken $20,000….and they fund raise for her…Anyone can be an author and be published, hell you can self publish…You need to do the oppositional research on Clinton and finally understand what you accuse Bernie of is exactly what Clinton has done and hundred times more. She and Trump have money hidden in Delaware the tax haven…Clintons email illegal server was connected to the Clinton Foundation…TOTALLY illegal. Clintons have raised billions around the world and donated only 1% of it…its an international crime syndicate they set up when she became Sec. of State…She has not only destroyed Honduras, but the entire country of Libya, (its not Benghazi)…she called black children super predator, Clintons responsible for the mass incarceration in this country. They are crooks, frauds and the most hated in the country after Trump.

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    2. BrucieBruce May 16, 2016

      If the establishment really believed ANY of this articles scary premises, they would push for Sanders. Sanders beats Trump in most polls by double digits, and in swing states. Clinton is flawed in so many ways, and is already losing to Trump in swing states. If Clinton cared about more than Clinton, she would already have dropped out with her FBI “security review”…i mean investigation…still cooking. Then their is all the primary voter suppression. Clinton staying in the race only leads to a bad ending if you dont want Trump as president.

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      1. King of America May 16, 2016

        Yeah, that’s nonsense. Sanders polls higher because nobody has bothered to attack him. The second-tier candidates always poll higher than they would realistically do in the general, for exactly that reason.

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  18. spktruth200 May 16, 2016

    YOU shut up…you HIlary clones. That witch will never beat trump, if you don’t know how bad her record is, your ignorant. The only candidate that beat Trump is Sanders, tell Hilary to get the hell out of the race…she bribed super delegates with Hilary Victory Fund, she is a republican at heart….she is a power hungry, profit driven right winger who will continue the establishment do nothing for the people. WE got this, Bernie will win, so go to hell you Hilary drones.

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    1. King of America May 16, 2016

      Bernie will not win. Bernie has already lost.

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      1. Rightazz May 16, 2016

        The democratic party told their sheep Bernie is going to lose vote for Hillary so all the good little sheep followed their master there is one good thing about Hillary winning she will be sitting at the same desk Monica sat under

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        1. King of America May 17, 2016

          OK thanks for illustrating that you’re a gross sexist; good to know you can be safely ignored.

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  19. RJOwens May 16, 2016

    The Democrats stopped being “Left” under the first Clinton. Catastrophe??? Look at who is supporting Bernie. Not just College Kids with mountains of debt and only low paid jobs in the service sector available, but a lot of older folks like myself who stopped drinking the “Democrats are the friend of the working man” koolaide years ago. Unlike many I have not swung to the right out of frustration. At best todays Democrats aren’t as bad as Republicans. Bernie draws support from hordes of working class people who have seen Democrats move so far to the Right that they make Nixon look like a Liberal. Democrats who supported NAFTA and all sorts of bad trade deals that have robbed millions of us of, if not our jobs, then our pensions, benefits and wages. Then we get to watch the people who stole those things from us host galas and pay the people who are supposed to be representing us hundreds of thousands of dollars to read them a speech. Its sickening to see how Obama has turned as well, pushing TPP so he too can look forward to reaping in those “fees” for speeches to the elites. We already suffered catastrophe. Most people in this country don’t belong to either party. Two sides of the same coin. The excuse that Bush collects fees as well just doesn’t cut it, reveals your arrogance and sense of entitlement to our vote, we know what those fees are, its payola for “favors” performed. Those favors included screwing us. Legalized bribes. You know when independents show up Democrats tend to win, but that’s when there really wasn’t much choice, now we have Bernie, make him your candidate and you will likely see Democrats sweep the election, be greedy and insist on putting Goldman Saks pick for candidate and most will just sit it out. Maybe you can win the White House without us but if you want to “unify” then you cant say “all our way or no way”. This is :the year of the outsider” because both parties got too greedy, they blew it. In states where anyone can vote Bernie wins. So which outsider would you rather see in the White House, Bernie or Trump? Or would you rather see Clinton with two houses that don’t support her Social Agenda? (Their economic agenda is about as different as left twix vs right twix. )To me maybe its time of you loyalist Democrats who are worried about a catastrophe suffered like the rest of us. One thing for sure is I will not support Hillary Clinton and the status quo. Bern or Burn!

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  20. George May 16, 2016

    Hillary is against single payer. That issue alone disqualifies her.

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    1. King of America May 16, 2016

      No she isn’t. She doesn’t think it can get passed, and she’s right.

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      1. George May 16, 2016

        In todays congress nothing a real democrat wants will be passed. You will have a bigger turnout if people think the candidate will work for big changes. I wont live long enough for Hillary to get single payer. You cant pass something if your not willing to try. Bernie is willing to break some eggs to get it done.

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        1. King of America May 17, 2016

          OK so what “eggs” do you imagine he could break that would magically get Congress and the Senate to vote for single payer? I await your answer on tenterhooks.

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          1. George May 17, 2016

            Bernie is willing to try to get single payer. He is not afraid to offend the powerful. Hillary has already said she will not push for single payer. SO WE KNOW SHE WONT GET IT DONE.. You cant get it done if your not willing to try. What makes you think repubs would vote for anything good she proposes? She will cause low voter turnout for lack of policy thus no coatails to change balance of power in congress.

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          2. King of America May 17, 2016

            You don’t seem to have answered the question at all.

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          3. George May 17, 2016

            Interesting projection on your part. Lets try this. Just what do you think her Highness will be able to pass in a republican congress???????????

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          4. King of America May 17, 2016

            I’m sorry, you seem to be labouring under a number of delusions.

            1. Hillary isn’t “against” single payer, she doesn’t think it can get passed. Since she’s been trying to get health reform passed for at least two decades, she probably knows what she’s talking about better than you do. Sanders track record of renaming a couple of post offices or whatever probably doesn’t lend his opinion any great weight.

            2. I asked you a question. Instead of answering it, you have resorted to smearing the most liberal candidate to ever have a realistic chance of becoming President. Why can’t you simply explain how Sanders – who has no allies and no real record of legislative accomplishments – will accomplish this without resorting to hyperbole and insults?

            3. Why do you imagine that single payer – which every Democrat wants, but some of which are realistic about the chances of accomplishing – is more important than (for example) Roe v. Wade, or the enormous array of other civil rights that the Republicans are actively working against? It’s certainly the case that the next President will have a number of SCOTUS appointments that will outlast her – since they are almost certain to be involved in any effort to get single payer passed (see: the entire history of Obamacare), how is it NOT an advantage to vote for Clinton?

            In short, what the heck is wrong with you?

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          5. George May 17, 2016

            I listen to Hillarys supporters. You copy them word for word. Bernie was arrested working for civil rights when Hillary was a Goldwater supporter. Hillary voted for Iraq war. Bernie did not. You still did not name anything that Hillary can get passed through a republican congress that Bernie could not. He is much better liked and considered more honest than she is. WELL?

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          6. King of America May 17, 2016

            You still don’t seem to have answered the question.

            Another one, though – why is Hillary’s political opinion when she was sixteen worse than Sanders’ opinons about rape when he was thirty one?

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          7. George May 17, 2016

            You saying Bernie was pro Rape??? And you didnt answer my quetion above. She and her trolls never answer that question.

            I will try again troll.. You still did not name anything that Hillary can get passed through a
            republican congress that Bernie could not. He is much better liked and
            considered more honest than she is. WELL?

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          8. King of America May 17, 2016

            I’m saying that Sanders – quite infamously – wrote some incredible distasteful things WHEN HE WAS THIRTY ONE about rape. This isn’t exactly breaking news. Why is Hillary’s teenage opinion, while living in a conservative household, worse than this? Why can’t you answer any of these questions? Why do you resort to insults and personal attacks in lieu of backing up your opinions?

            To recap: the major questions here are:
            1) How would Sanders, who has no particular political skills, no majority, and no real plan, get single payer through Congress and the Senate?

            2) Why is single payer more important to you than the far more vital civil rights issues that the Republicans are actively working to roll back?

            3) How do you not understand the role of SCOTUS in this?

            4) What the heck is wrong with you?

            Please feel free to answer these at any time, although I get that, as a ideological zealot who wants to create a left wing tea party, you never will.

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          9. George May 17, 2016

            No political skill? Hillary has been widely known for many years, her husband a political ace. Yet Bernie draws bigger crowds and in a very short period of time nearly caught up to Hillary. What skill does Hillary have that would pass single payer in a republican congress? None she would not even try.

            Single payer is important because everyone, regardless of color will get sick at some point. As for civil rights his record is better and longer than hers.

            I do understand the role of SCOTUS. I believe Bernie would appoint more progressive judges than Hillary would. I am a true progressive, not a Wall Street paid DINO.

            Nothing is wrong with me. Now you answer this, MR. 9400+ comments for Hillary. How much do they pay you? And what do you say Hillary can get passed in terms of healthcare or civil rights that Bernie can not. If you cant answer that directly it proves you to be a paid troll.

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          10. King of America May 17, 2016

            OK, sorry you couldn’t back up your opinions. Better luck next candidate!

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          11. George May 17, 2016

            I just did and you could not answer the question of what Hillary could pass. You are not doing her any favors by dodging the question. Just proves what they say about her transparency issues. How much they pay you for a worthless comment?

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          12. King of America May 17, 2016

            Why do you conspiracy loons always think that I am somehow obligated to answer your incredibly stupid leading questions if you refuse to answer my quite reasonable ones? Science has no answer for this.

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          13. George May 17, 2016

            you still did not answer the question of what she could pass that Bernie could not. You should not get your pay for this worthless performance.

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          14. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes I sure didn’t answer your stupid question, conspiracy guy.

            To sum up:
            1) Clinton not actually against single payer.
            2) Single payer not even remotely close to the most important issue this election.
            3) You are utterly incapable of explaining how Sanders – who has run an incredibly inept campaign so far, and who has got virtually nothing done over his 25 years in office – would somehow be able to pass single payer.
            4) For some reason you think insults are somehow effective in lieu of actual arguments.

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          15. George May 17, 2016

            and I asked you repeatedly to name something Hillary could pass that Bernie cannot and you just keep running the same BS over and over.. And to call Bernies campaign inept is absurd. He did an incredible job in a short time. Hillary has been running for decades. Talk about inept. She should have polled 90% by now if she wasnt so shady.

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          16. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes, I’m sure that whatever you wrote was very self-important; I don’t really care why you’re supporting Trump, though.

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          17. George May 17, 2016

            seems your the trump supporter because Bernie beats trump by way more than Clinton does

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          18. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yeah no, your delusion that Sanders would magically be competitive in the general IS NOT ACTUALLY AN EXCUSE for actively working against the Democratic Party by spreading Koch brothers-sourced conspiracy theories. Sorry, you are terrible and should be ashamed of what you are doing, although obviously you lack the capacity for any kind of introspection.

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          19. George May 17, 2016

            all that and he still could not answer one simple question. What can Hillary pass that Bernie can not. No answer then go home already . I have an actual job to go to. Probably dont pay what yours does though…

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          20. King of America May 17, 2016

            “Sure, all my discredited talking points are explicitly sourced from a Rupert Murdoch-published book created by the Koch brothers, but that doesn’t mean I’m a terrible person credulously doing their bidding”.

            I’m sorry, but I’m afraid it does.

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          21. George May 17, 2016

            so you admit you are working for Kochs to try to stop their worst nightmare, Bernie Sanders.

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          22. King of America May 17, 2016

            Hahaha wow you’re special, and also functionally illiterate.

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          23. George May 17, 2016

            HAHA Hilary cant do anything Bernie can do better. Bernie is the most honest most progressive candidate. Thats what real democrats should be voting for.

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          24. King of America May 17, 2016

            Your weird fetishisation of a sub-par politician continues to have nothing to do with anything I’ve written.

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          25. King of America May 17, 2016

            PS: “you’re”

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          26. George May 17, 2016

            Right , I asked you repeatedly to name something Hillary could pass that Bernie cannot you still cant answer the question because that one wasnt on your prep sheet of answers

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          27. King of America May 17, 2016

            I’m sorry that you think I’m obligated to answer your ridiculous questions when you refuse to answer my quite reasonable ones. I’m not though, and it doesn’t excuse your butchery of what I assume is your native language.

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          28. George May 17, 2016

            HAHA, you cant answer it because there is no answer. She cannot do anything Bernie cant do, and she is likely to lose to Trump in the process.

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          29. King of America May 17, 2016

            See previous post. Sorry that you’re like this.

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          30. plc97477 May 17, 2016

            Hillary knows that single payer will not make it past the house and senate. bernie should know this also but pretends he doesn’t. The only chance of getting single payer is by doing it is increments. Lower the age of social security or slowly add to what we already have. That will make it easier for the house and senate to follow along.

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          31. George May 17, 2016

            The house and Senate want to repeal Obamacare she will not get them to add on incrementaly. However for a bold move like single payer which polls 70 plus percent I believe Bernie could make a case to the public that would force congress to act.

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          32. dpaano May 24, 2016

            Since when does the Congress listen to the public? They haven’t listened to us for years and they won’t start now until we get a more even Congress. As long as the Republicans rule it….nothing will be accomplished much as nothing has been accomplished in the last 7+ years. And, if President Obama can’t get anything passed in this Congress, how do you think Sanders will get anything passed…..or even Hillary. But, it’s my bet that Hillary will have a much better chance of getting things passed…..

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          33. George May 24, 2016

            Ok back to it then. What can Hillary pass that Bernie cannot?

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          34. Ted Sotinsky May 17, 2016

            Sorry old boy, there are no liberals in Washington, including Sanders. I like what he says about domestic affairs, but his foreign policies are no different than the previous presidents. Will he or H. Clinton dismantle the security and military systems? I think not. I can’t support H. Clinton or Sanders, and definitely not Trump. People were fooled with Obama, but they will not be fooled again.

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          35. King of America May 17, 2016

            OK good luck with whatever it is you are talking about.

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  21. Rightazz May 16, 2016

    I support Bernie never would I vote for Hillary Clinton more of the same and yes I want a political revolution regardless of the party Washington has NOT looked out for the American people upset about NAFTA yes and yes again Hillary promise Mexicans workers would be making higher wages worker rights worker safety BS and BS and more lies from Hillary Clinton she told America to get real as we voted for Obama in 2008 the great anointed one so it is time for Hillary and the democratic committee to get real you F*ucked Sanders so stand by to get F*ucked by voters like me ANYONE BUT HILLARY

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    1. King of America May 16, 2016

      Learn to punctuate. Also, learn to distinguish fact from fiction.

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      1. Rightazz May 16, 2016

        No need to worry about proper grammar on a post Also you need to specify what is fiction King of the sheep

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        1. King of America May 17, 2016

          I’m sorry that you’re incomprehensible – but as you’ve nicely illustrated that you’re vile sexist garbage already, I won’t bother pointing out even the more glaring of your idiotic errors.

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          1. Rightazz May 17, 2016

            ha ha ha ha another Hillary supporter with the only defense YOU ARE A SEXIST and I never asked you to point out my errors I asked you to point out what you considered fiction in this way I could refer you as where to obtain the facts to back up my comments but why bother with a bigot who already has judged me

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          2. King of America May 17, 2016

            OK sorry you’re garbage; not my problem.

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          3. Rightazz May 17, 2016

            You forgot racist hater a backwoods hick from Mississippi and any other name you can come up with typical of Clinton supporters who believe no one but them are entitled to a opinion but you are the worst haters of all your arrogance allowed you to point out my lack of punctuations when in fact I had my right hand crushed a few years ago and can only type with my left hand so I choose to not use punctuations not a lack of education .In this case after your comment I would belive you are a person that puts yourself above others

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          4. King of America May 17, 2016

            See previous post.

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          5. Rightazz May 17, 2016

            I spelt believe wrong even with spell check so you could correct me and feel better about yourself and you did not even catch it such a superior person my my

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          6. King of America May 17, 2016

            I can’t imagine why you think I’m even reading your posts. I’m just assuming you’re talking about ethics in gaming journalism or whatever it is you MRAs are banging on about this week.

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          7. Rightazz May 17, 2016

            I can see you putting your fingers in your ears reciting I am not listening over and over and if one would to keep speaking your next move would be to hold your breath

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          8. King of America May 17, 2016

            People who hate women always seem to think their opinions are so important. It’s weird as hell.

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          9. Rightazz May 17, 2016

            Hate women again with the typical Hillary Clinton supporter response I truly would not share my opinions with you a closed minded individual but I would spend the time to get under your skin and have one good laugh my objective is achieved enjoy your hate carry it where ever you go bye bye sorry for not punctuating

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          10. King of America May 17, 2016

            See previous post (#2)

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          11. Rightazz May 17, 2016

            Again with the sexist thing just because I think Hillary is a liar does not make me a sexist or a woman hater I have done more for women rights in the work place than most you just have no better response No I will not vote for or against or respect Hillary because she is a women if that makes me a women hater or a sexist then so be it You still have not answered my first question in my original post what did I post that was fiction

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          12. King of America May 17, 2016

            See previous post (#3)

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          13. plc97477 May 17, 2016

            I stopped reading right ass some time ago. It is to hard to make any sense of it.

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  22. Beth Jones May 16, 2016

    Hillary is a Third Way neoliberal warhawk. She is beholden to Wall Street and the fossil fuel industry. She is responsible for regime change and the blood of innocents in places across the globe. She supported fracking to the world. Her friends include Saul Alinsky, Sidney Blumenthal and Henry Kissinger. She is backed by George Soros and the Rothschilds. She will never be for single-payer health care because she has taken $$$ from Big Pharma. She takes donations from NRA lobbyists foreign governments with horrendous civil rights records and now from Republicans. She is the most corrupt and most dangerous politician there is. This Baby Boomer will NEVER vote Hillary nor will most Bernie supporters. You don’t disrespect, disenfrachise and outright cheat people of their vote and then expect them to unite. That is not gonna happen. You reap what you sow. Good luck with that.

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    1. King of America May 16, 2016

      So what you have against her are baseless smears, things you made up, and some right-wing conspiracy theories. Got it.

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      1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

        GOP TROLL ALERT !!!!!!!!!

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        1. King of America May 16, 2016

          Ah, it’s Mister Pointless, here with his TWENTIETH personal attack on people for… supporting the candidate he is pretending he’s going to vote for.

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          1. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

            Now it’s 21 troll.

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          2. King of America May 17, 2016

            It is indeed. What a great use of your no doubt valuable time. It’s remarkable – only not really – that you spend more time yelling at people for pointing out lies about Clinton than at those actively supporting Trump.

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      2. Beth Jones May 16, 2016

        Not a bit, those are all facts. Do some research, I have.

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        1. King of America May 16, 2016

          Absolutely nothing you said was true. Not one word of it.

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          1. Beth Jones May 16, 2016

            Absolutely everything I said was true.

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          2. King of America May 16, 2016

            Wrong. She’s not a warhawk, “Third Way neoliberal” isn’t actually a thing. The “regime change” claim is an ABSOLUTELY FAKE conspiracy theory straight from Clinton Cash, paid for by the Koch Brothers and published by Rupert Murdoch. And so on. You’re boring and unoriginal.

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        2. King of America May 16, 2016

          Although the barely-concealed anti-semitism is unusual in someone claiming they’re a Sanders supporter.

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        3. JPHALL May 17, 2016

          Where did you find these facts? No where accepted by intelligent people. No indictments, no convictions and no trials therefore no facts.

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    2. A_Real_Einstein May 16, 2016

      Almost everything you say is true. However she is the only thing between Trump and the WH and he is much worse. You may want to think about that a little bit. The whole thing sucks and we can primary her 2020 but never Trump. He is Hitler.

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    3. Elliot J. Stamler May 17, 2016

      Good. You are exactly the kind of radical, left-wing, crypto-communist we Democrats don’t need or want….a ranting leftist living in a dream world that is so delusional you think a majority of all voters agree with you. You’d be happier in Cuba or Venezuela than in our country.

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  24. John Peniel May 17, 2016

    Liberals need to quit being so reactionary, and set their own agenda and STICK TO IT. How stupid is it to say that we need to unite behind a candidate whose human rights policies are questionable at best, who is in bed with the big banks, who is hawkish, who supports fracking, who thinks Iraq is a great business opportunity? Here’s a thought.. QUIT ALLOWING THE RIGHT TO SET THE PARAMETERS FOR LIBERALISM.

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    1. King of America May 17, 2016

      Yes, instead we should copy the right-wing smears of the liberal candidate, that is a much better plan. Good job helping out Trump, what a progressive thing to do.

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      1. John Peniel May 17, 2016

        I never said anything even hinting at ‘smears’. don’t imply I was. If your girl Hillary can’t stand a critique of her record, she shouldn’t be running for office.

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        1. King of America May 17, 2016

          Your entire post was NOTHING but smears of Clinton. You are helping Trump. The fact that you are too dim-witted to understand that does not actually excuse it.

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          1. George May 17, 2016

            you are like headlice troll

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          2. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes I know that you have nothing but insults. It’s because you’re an awful person.

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          3. George May 17, 2016

            should have said crabs…..

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          4. King of America May 17, 2016

            Yes you should have used a different personal attack, that would definitely have made you not look gross.

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          5. George May 17, 2016

            you are gross because you are a troll that keeps trying to get the last word without answering the basic question posed about the candidate you claim to support. You are doing her more harm than good. You are contributing to her being considered untrustworthy by your actions.

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          6. King of America May 17, 2016

            See previous post. Sorry you’re like this! Get better soon!

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          7. John Peniel May 19, 2016

            YOU are helping Trump by supporting a candidate who cannot win against her. How dare you try to bash me or anyone else into voting according to what YOU deem appropriate. MY vote, Sparky, not yours.

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          8. King of America May 19, 2016

            Except that, of course, she can win, every reputable poll shows her doing so, and his performance when they debate is only going to improve the margin. Sorry that you want to help Trump and overturn the democratically elected candidate! There’s a word for people like you!

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          9. John Peniel May 22, 2016

            Bull piles, King of nothing. Reuters poll shows she cannot win against Trump, but Sanders can. so much for your ‘reputable polling’. BEETEEDUBS, CCN isnt ‘reputable’.

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          10. King of America May 22, 2016

            Sanders only polls high because nobody bothers to attack the loser. How hard is this?

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          11. John Peniel May 22, 2016

            blah blah blah blah seriously go get a real job. What are the hillary grunts paying you to troll? 3 bucks an hour or something? LOL. Vote for Bernie. He believes in the fight for 15. Shillary only advocated the ‘maybe 12 if we can afford it’ discussion. LOL

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          12. King of America May 22, 2016

            Accusations of being a paid shill from a Trump supporter; not at all surprising.

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  25. larm007 May 17, 2016

    The pathetic shame here is that supporters for Trump and Bernie are all fed up with ‘business as usual’. Yet, the only 2 candidates the media suggests as ‘finalists’ are Trump and Hillary.

    Trump knows nothing about government so I’m sure the GOP will happily step up with their ‘best’ political advisors for cabinet positions (just like they did for Reagan who also knew nothing about government). With Reagan, despite the propagandic accolades, we saw the start of union destruction and trickle down which had a gravity problem as everything trickled up. Trump has people who disagree with him thrown out of his rallies. Do you really think he would listen to any citizens concern if he didn’t like it? It will be more of the same, just like now, for example, when 80% of the people want GMO’s labeled, hardly radical, and yet we are ignored.

    And Hillary, has a lot of shady baggage, is backed by Wall Street and has major money funding her campaign. As Sec. of State, she was pretty hawkish and I have no reason to believe that has or will change, as she states she will continue Obama policies.

    What we DO have, is a populist candidate, with an incredible following, who really does tell the truth, and has a specific agenda to start making improvements in the lives of the majority of Americans. He is largely ignored in MSM, because he is not establishment. For the masses that have been behind the 2 ‘outside the box’ candidates, I am amazed that they have not figured out that the true ‘outside the box’ candidate is Bernie Sanders. Trump will be ‘managed’ and Clinton will continue on our present path.

    I don’t want him to drop out. Nothing would be better for our country at this time than to have him as President.

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    1. PiranhaBros May 18, 2016

      Reagan ran a union for 14 years and was Governor of California for eight .

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  26. Elliot J. Stamler May 17, 2016

    As a strong Clinton supporter I can not in good faith ask Sen. Sanders to withdraw until Mrs. Clinton gathers the necessary delegate majority.
    I think Sen. Sanders does deserve credit for accentuating the economic problem of income inequality, etc. which all Democrats are justifiably concerned about.
    Most of Sen. Sanders’ supporters are reasonable people but he also has a portion who are, bluntly, hard-left extremists whose “socialism” is Marxist in reality and who are dead set against compromise or even reality and who being both immature and unreasonable are perfectly prepared to see a Trump/Republican victory if they do not prevail. In that THEY ARE OUR PARTY’S MIRROR IMAGE OF THE TEA PARTY AND WE SEE WHAT THAT BUNCH HAS DONE TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
    I will put it bluntly: If Hillary Clinton, her 30-year record, her superb and sensibly liberal position on issues, is completely unpalatable to you, then you should do yourself and the Democratic Party a favor and get the hell out of it and join either the Socialist Party, the Green Party, and yes..I’ll write it, the Communist Party.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker May 17, 2016

      The problem with Sanders isn’t who he is. It is whether or not he can “do” what he says. All of his policies are and have een well known to the public since Reagan took office…

      Once you factor in that SAnders had 4+ decades to make a difference, the major question is “Why now?” To smart women, the answer is that Sanders chooses now because now there is a woman running and in his pecking order mind, a man always wins before a woman. I also think he did himself in by making negative remarks about the very party he is using to get elected. Adults who possess any sense of mature wisdom know you don’t become a member of anything you are not committed to.

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      1. sandyt100 June 3, 2016

        How antidemocratic of him to try to improve the party, instead of going along to get along like our current fearless leader! Losing 900+ democratic seats is clearly not enough to get the democratic party to consider making any improvements…

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  27. dpaano May 24, 2016

    It’s my hope that if Sanders doesn’t get the nomination….he’ll at least help Clinton by calling on his backers and fans to support the Democratic ticket. They may not be happy to elect Hillary, but when you look at the alternative….Trump….it’s the worse of the evils. And, it would make his popularity soar and maybe, in 4 years, he’ll have a better chance of gaining the presidency. But, if he doesn’t ask his supporters to back Hillary if she’s the nominee, and they stay home from the voting booth…..he’s handing the election over to the dark side! I respect Bernie, and I can only hope that he does the right thing in the end. We need a united Democratic Party to overtake Trump’s so-called “march to greatness.” Seeing him lose the presidency would be a beautiful sight!

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