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The Alt-Right Tries To Spin Trump Debate Performance And Fails

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The alt-right, the fringe sect of conservatism that is marked by white nationalist allegiances, is struggling to make sense of the debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump last night. Despite attempts to shill for Trump, as usual, many in the alt-right are finding it difficult to reasonably deny that Clinton won, in every sense of the word.

Stormfront, the site founded by a Ku Klux Klan leader and seen as a premier website for alt-right neo-Nazis, had several posts from readers indicating their view that Hillary won the debate. Deadspin rounded up some of these posts, and they include at least one person saying, “I’m a hard core  [sic] Trump supporter – and was from the very beginning – but Hillary mopped the floor with Trump tonight.” Another added, “sorry but he got crushed tonight.”

Meanwhile Breitbart News, the Trump sock-puppet nationalist site run by Stephen Bannon, is pushing the idea that Trump won, and hard, but is flailing. The Breitbart front page is running headlines like “+5% Say Hilary Won – But Trump Picks Up Undecideds” and “Hillary’s Name Misspelled On The Debate Ticket.” Clinton’s name being misspelled, then, is clearly big news for the alt-right fan site.

Pat Caddell, of Fox News, however, spoke to Breitbart and said in a flash poll taken just after the debate, 48 percent said Clinton did better, compared to just 43 percent for Trump.

Prior to the debate, alt-right personality Milo Yiannopolous guessed that the media “will paint [Hillary] as a victim.” His prediction didn’t hold, however, as the consensus was widely that Clinton won the debate.

Even more traditional conservatives believe Clinton won the debate. Frank Luntz, conservative political commentator, asked a focus group consisting of undecided voters about the results of the debate and was told, among other things, when Trump was defending himself he came off like a “disaster” and that he “responded horribly” to Clinton baiting him. Focus group participants also felt, overwhelmingly, that Clinton won the debate, that Trump didn’t have “solutions” and was “frankly rude to Lester Holt.”

Trump supporter and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, for his part, said Trump should skip the next debate if he’s going to continue to be fact-checked. Because, of course, the American people shouldn’t expect a presidential candidate to tell the truth or humbly accept when his lies are called out.

Photo: Republican U.S. presidential nominee Donald Trump listens during the first debate with Democratic U.S. presidential nominee Hillary Clinton at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York, U.S., September 26, 2016.   REUTERS/Brian Snyder

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  1. fortunev September 27, 2016

    It is soo sweet to watch the GOPigs eat their shyt sandwich.

    Reply
    1. Box September 28, 2016

      Thats called a Bad Karma statement, the kind of talk that can get something foul in your own mouth on Nov 8.

  2. Oddworld September 27, 2016

    It just goes to show that even the alt-right can’t agree on everything. Those of them that are unwilling to admit Trump lost the first debate can be very proud of their “Boy Wonder”. They had no expectations of him and as such got nothing.

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    1. Box September 28, 2016

      Its not about admitting anything, your comment is useless. Dont you think the dies were cast before the debate? Sure they were, nobody won or lost anything. A better question is, who will get Johnsons voters? Who will get a key state?

  3. Insinnergy September 27, 2016

    Expect Trump to declare that the “Debates are Rigged!!!” and refuse to attend any of the others because he’s too busy abusing women, selling hotels, pretending the birther movement wasn’t his, and stopping himself saying really bad things about Hillary’s family…

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    1. I of John September 28, 2016

      He has been prepping for that exit. Just shows how chicken sh%t he is.

    2. Box September 28, 2016

      Really? Read this.
      http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2016/hillarys-2008-campaign-manager-admits-that-their-campaign-started-the-birther-movement

      What bad things about her family? About 10 years ago there was an article tracing her history. Starting in the 1850 era her family head was horsethief and common criminal who went to prison. When she was asked about the events, she stated that the person in question “worked for the state.” Right….peeling potatoes at the state pen. Thats its, thats her family, glowing examples of red white and blue.

      1. Jon September 28, 2016

        You’re right. Having a father who was a KKK member and joining his father in refusing to rent to “the blacks” is much better. Shame on Hillary and her 1850 ancestor.

      2. I Am Helpy September 28, 2016

        Hahahahahaha wow. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read literally ever. One of my ancestors was an infamous pirate, and another an opera singer. Somehow I’ve managed to avoid the temptation to sink galleons while singing arias, but obviously I could snap at any moment.

  4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth September 27, 2016

    Just heard on NPR earlier this evening that Donny boy was whining on FOX earlier in the day that his problem at the Debate was due to a faulty microphone. The average wimp wouldn’t dare go down that pathetic path, but Lord Fauntleroy has no sense of shame.
    I’m thoroughly amused by that, and it proves the level of immaturity of Donald.

    A bad mike—Indeed!

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    1. Dominick Vila September 28, 2016

      He also blamed the moderator for asking tough questions…just a few hours after saying that the moderator was fair!

      1. dbtheonly September 28, 2016

        You act like there’s some stability or consistency in Trumpville. Holt was fair, until he wasn’t. Nothing exists beyond the moment. Expect nothing more. It’s like 1984. There is no past, there is no history, there is just now.

        My favorite moment was Trump asking why no one was fact checking him with Sean Hannity.

        1. Box September 28, 2016

          Its true, Holt was fair until he wasnt and it became clear that he favored Hillary by cutting off Trump more often. Not to mention the shenanigans with Hillary’s “cleaner” afterwords, noted in the attached article. But who cares? Dies are cast, debate or no debate.
          http://madworldnews.com/clinton-debate-hillary-cheated/

          1. The lucky one September 28, 2016

            “he favored Hillary by cutting off Trump more often” that’s because Trump tried to talk over Clinton and interrupt far more often than Clinton did to him.

          2. InGen12 September 28, 2016

            He interrupted her 51 times! 25 times in a 30-minute period.

      2. FT66 September 28, 2016

        Trump has a very poor memory. Those surrounding him prepared him for the debate. He couldn’t remember what he was told to say during the debate. He then switched to his daily stumping speeches while debating. The man is embarrassing himself.

        1. dpaano September 28, 2016

          Actually, he didn’t do much preparation and that was the problem. He had several of his people ready to work with him, but he chose to keep campaigning rather than doing the prep work! He was thoroughly unprepared!! Hillary, on the other hand, was totally ready!!!

      3. dpaano September 28, 2016

        He has to blame someone…..I mean, after all…..he’s not the one that has the problems!!!! Right……

        1. Dominick Vila September 29, 2016

          He never does, and since he never gets sick, his sniffles during the debate were, obviously, caused by a bad mic or whatever…

          1. dpaano September 29, 2016

            So he says…..I was just waiting for Hillary to ask him if he needed a Kleenex or something!!! She was being very gracious by not mentioning it, but the sniffles were very loud and distinct!!!

    2. Mama Bear September 28, 2016

      As a competitive runner, I can tell you that was what we call a “loser’s limp”. When a guy cannot keep up with the pack and sees he has no chance he develops a “limp” to blame.

    3. The lucky one September 28, 2016

      “skip the next Debate” given his performance in the 1st one I’d say that’s good advice.

    4. InGen12 September 28, 2016

      That mike was good enough to pick up every one of his sniffs and broadcast it to the 84 million viewers! Thought I would lose my mind with his constant sniffing.

      1. dpaano September 28, 2016

        I was waiting for Hillary to ask him if he needed a Kleenex or if he was sick and needed to stop and rest!!! She missed a perfect opportunity there!

        1. charleo1 September 29, 2016

          Sniffing, rasping, snorting..I hear cocaine which is often cut with laundry detergent, can cause a lot of that. Also will account for that coming out the gate at 90 miles an hour the first few minutes. Only to disintegrate into a monkey faced blob of incoherent rants, and remarkable jaw dropping admissions on the back end as the drug quickly wears off. That’s our boy!

          1. dpaano September 29, 2016

            No, that’s his usual performance…..he starts out fairly well and once his buttons are pushed (and Hillary is VERY good at this), he goes off on his tangent and forgets everything he’s been told to say and not say! He just keeps shooting himself in the foot!

    5. dpaano September 28, 2016

      According to the newspapers, both candidates came to the stage before the debate to make sure their microphones were situated correctly for them. I sincerely doubt someone sabotaged Trump’s from that time until he took the stage. I didn’t notice that he was having ANY problems with his microphone, but he did need a Kleenex for all the sniffling and snorting!

    6. Beethoven September 29, 2016

      Actually, the mike was faulty, at least from his perspective. It was faulty because it passed on exactly what he said and the tone of voice he used to say it, instead of filtering it out so that it might sound half-way reasonable.

      1. useyourindoorvoice September 29, 2016

        Thank you so much for my morning laugh. Perfect!!!!!!!!!

  5. Godzilla September 28, 2016

    If only Hitlary could tell the truth just once:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpLQzeCoNnA

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    1. Box September 28, 2016

      And she flatly denied ever saying that–which is what she always does even in the face of video evidence to the contrary.

      1. InGen12 September 28, 2016

        As does Drumpf – videos, tweets – he still denies saying the bigoted things he says.

      2. pisces63 September 28, 2016

        When videos are shown he lied, he calls that a lie. they trumped it up.

    2. The lucky one September 28, 2016

      The same could be said about Trump who is an even more prolific liar than Clinton, or just about anyone else in politics.

    3. pisces63 September 28, 2016

      Per a recent poll Trump lies one out of 3 times he opens his mouth. Really? You speak of emails but why aren’t you ranting about the 22 million deleted by Bush through congressional GOP servers. Information covering WMDS and the Iraqi war. Over 4 k died and counting.

      1. useyourindoorvoice September 29, 2016

        Actually what it said is he lines every 3.5 minutes. The base in fact reverses what you said he lies 3 out of 4 times.

  6. Dominick Vila September 28, 2016

    Judging by the comments made by the far right folks that post in this forum, friends and neighbors, and the large crowd that attended Trump’s rallies in Florida yesterday, including people waiting in long lines to buy Trump memorabilia in nearby kiosks, I think it is fair to say that his poor performance during the first debate did not affect the support he enjoys. I doubt it helped him gain more support, but it definitely did not change the minds of his supporters, who remain as loyal to him as ever.
    The real question is whether or not Hillary gained ground in battleground states, and in blue states like Pennsylvania and Colorado, where she had been steadily losing ground.
    With early voting around the corner, there is no time to waste. She, and her surrogates, have to step up the pace to energize Democrats and bring people to the polls, the way Trump, Giuliani, and others have been doing so effectively.

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    1. Box September 28, 2016

      But cant the same be said about Hillary supporters? No debate or emails or allegations will change their minds. This means you missed the greater point. Both sides are hanging onto their man, which leaves Johnsons supporters up for grabs. Sooner or later he has to make a deal with either side and I will suppose Hillary will pay bigger for his people and that creates the victory.

      1. Dominick Vila September 28, 2016

        Those who have already made up their minds will, indeed, vote for whomever they believe is best qualified to be President. The question is how many new converts they each made as a result of their respective performances during the debate.
        Although Hillary is likely to benefit the most from the debate, I doubt there will be a significant shift in either direction.

        1. dpaano September 28, 2016

          We can only hope that by the time all the debates are over, a few might see the light!

      2. The lucky one September 28, 2016

        ” Both sides are hanging onto their man” I think that is accurate but as you said Hillary faces “allegations”. That is also true of Trump but it is his own words that sink him. He is so arrogant he will lie about things he said that are very easily verified, like his early support for invading Iraq and his belief that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese, not a very smart man despite his near constant claims about his superior intelligence.

      3. pisces63 September 28, 2016

        No it isn’t the same. It is like comparing members of Mensa(Hillary camp) to members of the Dunce corporation(Trump). I still cannot get why millennials want either of them. They both come off as ding bats to me. Gary, Sponge Bob’s pet is worse than Trump. Jill is a closet psycho!!

    2. Mama Bear September 28, 2016

      I think it’s fair to say that his followers are like religious fanatics and continue to believe regardless of facts. They honestly believe that ignorance is a virtue.

      1. Beethoven September 29, 2016

        The Trumpies do tend to remind me of the followers of David Koresh, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson, for example.

  7. yabbed September 28, 2016

    It is a humiliation for our nation on the global stage to have the likes of Donald Trump as a candidate for the Presidency. The Republican Party will not survive this debacle.

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    1. 1standlastword September 28, 2016

      Well 31 states have Republican governors and 23 of those states have Republican legislators. And looks like they might hold the house and maybe the senate too. I’m sad to say they will survive because they are much better at beating Democrats by stealth than the Democrats have ever been. I predict our two major parties are going to be locked in warfare for eternity and life in America will get worse and more worse for Americans until we are all slaves to the Chinese

      1. I of John September 28, 2016

        tides change and the GOP hold is slipping.

    2. pisces63 September 28, 2016

      My daughter has an extensive friends bunch around the world. From Scandinavia to France, Great Britain, etc. and they are laughing their behinds off at ignorant Americans. they were all over twitter and FB.

      1. dpaano September 28, 2016

        Definitely, this country is an embarrassment for allowing such an idiot to run for the highest position in the land! I don’t blame them for laughing at the ignorant Americans…..we can only hope that the intelligent ones will override the ignorant ones and vote for Hillary!!!

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  9. InformedVoter September 28, 2016

    When will the MSM learn that they can’t destroy what they didn’t create? They keep trying to paint Trump as a loser and independents see that as a sign that he’s got to be right if they’re so much against him. Trump made the comment, months ago, his popularity was so strong that he could shoot someone and not get charged (similar to HilLIARy telling lies and not getting charged). Well, he has proven that to be true. Now there are photos showing that HilLIARy was wearing an earpiece, which is against the rules. This will not help her image of being dishonest.
    The early post-debate polls show that Trump’s numbers are up and HilLIARy’s are still dropping, and those numbers are from blue or swing states! Michigan, Ohio, Florida, and the list goes on.
    The MSM are baffled and don’t know what to do. Oh MY!

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    1. dbtheonly September 28, 2016

      Now it’s true?

      Trump shot somebody?

        1. dbtheonly September 28, 2016

          Neither newsmax not Moore are legitimate news sources.

          Who did Trump shoot? Where? 5th Avenue?

          1. InformedVoter September 28, 2016

            Neither are TNM, CNN, MSNBC and most of the other liberal biased MSM!
            President Trump just shot down HilLIARy’s run at the presidency. Didn’t you see that on SNL?

          2. pisces63 September 28, 2016

            Now, I know you have lost it. SNL hasn’t been relevant since the Not Ready for Prime Time Players left and some, like Eddie Murphy, later. Really? Comedy skits are your go to resources??? That says it for his followers.

        2. pisces63 September 28, 2016

          I read it. It was a satirical piece which I an informed black woman, understood, completely!!

    2. pisces63 September 28, 2016

      Don’t need you dumb video. Probably someone else’s ear. I watched it and saw nothing and she showed all sides, when HE didn’t. He just either looked down or at the audience. what was in his left ear?? what ever it was, he sure didn’t heed them. Mayor, go to hell you ceased to be relevant years ago. as for the polls, this morning showed differently. Can’t wait for the next one. Will he show up? PERIOD!!!

      1. InformedVoter September 28, 2016

        No, the polls taken after the debate show HilLIARy losing points. The MSM is in panic mode so they contrived results talking only to DEMs who watched the debate. Of course HilLIARy chose Monday night as the night for the debate (just as she chose Saturday for the DNC debates) because she knows fewer viewers because of conflicting shows. Here is the device, clearly visible in HilLIARy’s ear. No touched up photos. Knowing HilLIARy, she’ll EVENTUALLY respond that it was ear wax!
        http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/was-hillary-wired-for-trump-debate/
        Ask yourself this question: If HilLIARy did so good in the debate, then why are her advisers in panic mode. They pulled out of Ohio and Florida is next.

        1. I Am Helpy September 28, 2016

          There are no such polls.

          1. InformedVoter September 28, 2016
          2. I Am Helpy September 28, 2016

            OK sorry, but I don’t click on links from conspiracy theorists or white supremacists – and you’re both.

          3. InformedVoter September 29, 2016

            Three posts, each as worthless as one before. Thanks for admitting that you ONLY read left-biased news sources. And you wonder why social-psychologists have labeled your crowd as low information. You just keep proving they’re correct.
            That’s probably why you immediately start with name calling, which is a clear sign that you are losing the argument. In each of the forums you have tangled with me, you have lost and big time. Why? Because you produce no facts and vent and display your lack of knowledge. From my side, you get facts (the thing that liberals fear most).. If you wish to upset a conservative, tell them a lie. If you wish to upset a liberal, tell them the truth. Truer words have never been written.

          4. I Am Helpy September 29, 2016

            It’s astonishing that you both think I care what your neo-Nazi opinion is, and that feeble insults will somehow make you not a pathetic joke. Where do you people get these muddle-headed opinions?

          5. InformedVoter September 29, 2016

            You come up with zilch for support while I provide links that support my words. Because you’re so low information that you don’t even read opposing links, you are destined to lose every encounter. If HilLIARy did so great, then why did she just pull out of Ohio, a state she held a double-digit lead after the DNC. Dominick, who lives in Florida, bemoans his state is getting redder and redder. Michigan, who hasn’t gone red since 1992, is now red (by a slim margin, but still it’s red).
            You’re low information crowd is in panic mode. I’ve told you before that the MSM can’t destroy what they didn’t create. They created Bill & HilLIARy, but they didn’t create President Trump. They are beside themselves because the don’t understand that the public wants REAL change, not the garbage Obama foisted on them for 8 years. So continue your name calling, it only shows how desperate and how big your side is losing.

          6. I Am Helpy September 29, 2016

            You LITERALLY claimed that all polls but the ones you like are somehow rigged. The stench of desperation off you is amazing. Your candidate is a loser, he’s behind in the polls (as he always has been), and he lost the debate so badly that he cancelled his after-party and blamed a broken microphone. In short, this is delicious and the memory of your manbaby tears will nourish me for years.

          7. InformedVoter September 30, 2016

            You, like HilLIARy’s team, are in panic mode! HilLIARy’s health is so bad that the DNC are conducting meetings to select her replacement.

          8. I Am Helpy September 30, 2016

            How does that new (and deeply stupid) conspiracy theory prove the absolutely ridiculous claims you made about polls?

          9. I Am Helpy September 29, 2016

            Oh, I left out the part where he claimed to be ahead in a poll that does not exist (but which you seem to believe in also).

          10. I Am Helpy September 29, 2016

            PS: Sorry you couldn’t back up your claims. You never can, of course.

    3. I Am Helpy September 28, 2016

      Which “early post-debate polls” are you talking about? There are no reputable polls that show that. Of course, you’re completely delusional and hate America, so…

      1. InformedVoter September 28, 2016

        Now the MSM is claiming that the post-debate polls were rigged. You are such a moron for believing their lies. The evident that they manipulated and had already decided to publish that HilLIAry had won is coming out. Now there are photos that HilLIARy wore an earpiece and was getting information from others during the debate. This will end up hurting HilLIARy’s honesty numbers, which are worse than President Trump’s.
        http://totalconservative.com/actually-won-debate/

        1. I Am Helpy September 28, 2016

          OK sorry you can’t back up your bizarre claims with facts; abuse is not a substitute. Better luck next white supremacy candidate!

        2. I Am Helpy September 29, 2016

          Also the “MSM” isn’t claiming that, it’s people with actual evidence that it is so. I mean, I get that you are desperate, but maybe read the article next time?

    4. useyourindoorvoice September 29, 2016

      The funniest part of your entire post is you have named yourself “informed voter”. I had to stop laughing after reading what you wrote and seeing your online name. First no polls show him winning. NO POLLS. They were on line surveys at right wing sights where you can vote as many times as you want. The only actual pools had her winning by double digits. On top of that seriously are we going down the ear piece rat hole again. Blew up the last time and again this time. They have not pulled out of any of the states you mentioned just don’t even know where you got that one. And look without a single poll if you watched the same debate the rest of us did, you have to understand he lost in a major way. Just own it. Quit being so Trumpian and blaming anything and anyone you can think of when your candidate is a disaster. And if by rigged you meant hey explained they were not polls but surveys where anyone can vote multiple times, the MSN did report. No one however used the word rigged that one is reserved for you guys.

      1. InformedVoter September 30, 2016

        Meaningless drivel on your part. HilLIARy’s camp is in panic mode, as is the DNC. The DNC are conducting meetings to select a successor for HilLIARy. HilLIARy’s is unfit both mentally and physically.

  10. Box September 28, 2016

    Who cares? It doesnt matter. See you on Nov 8!

    Reply
    1. I Am Helpy September 30, 2016

      OK sorry Trump is losing and has always been losing and will lose on Election day. It’s because he’s a loser.

  11. I of John September 28, 2016

    Rudy has already “jumped the shark” by dredging up old Monica crap. Time for the mayor to hang up his mic.

    Reply
    1. dpaano September 28, 2016

      I think he’s just jealous that Monica didn’t come after him!!!

  12. Jon September 28, 2016

    At least Trump won the CBS Poll as he proudly told those at his rallies as well as anyone else who would listen. Why would they think Trump was lying to them? Who knew there wasn’t any CBS Poll.

    Reply
  13. Aware September 28, 2016

    Wow! Idn. For a minute there, I thought the debate was between Lester Holt and Trump. I’m just saying………

    Reply
  14. dpaano September 28, 2016

    Giuliani is a total idiot and shouldn’t be listened to! He has NO idea what he’s talking about!

    Reply

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