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Big Lies, Little Lies, And The Punishment Of Brian Williams

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Big Lies, Little Lies, And The Punishment Of Brian Williams

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Photo: Top US television anchor Brian Williams says he is taking himself off the air for "several days" as he faces an internal investigation for embellishing an Iraq war story (AFP/Robyn Beck)

The harshest penalties usually tend to be brutal, vengeful, and excessive – even when the offender is a celebrity journalist like Brian Williams. Suspended without pay from his post as the NBC Nightly News anchor for six months, Williams may be facing the end of his career in television news, which would be roughly equivalent to capital punishment.

Williams is in the public dock for telling a false story about his experiences covering the American invasion of Iraq; the disclosure humiliated him, his colleagues, and his network when exposed. For the time being, at least, he has lost the trust of many in his audience. Enforced absence from the job he loves — and wanted all his life – is a sanction that will sting far more than the barbed jokes, ugly headlines, and lost millions in salary. Off air, he may find time to engage in serious introspection, issue a forthright apology, and hope for redemption.

Troubling as his transgression was, I nevertheless hope for his redemption too.

No doubt my sympathy is spurred by the fact that I have known Williams for a long time, not as a friend or even a newsroom colleague, but as a frequent guest on a nightly cable news show he hosted and, years later, as the author of a magazine profile of him.

What I encountered then was a witty and unassuming guy from south Jersey who kept many of the same friends he had 30 years ago; an exceptionally hard-working correspondent who took reporting seriously; a history buff who avidly consumed books and newspapers to broaden his knowledge; and a dedicated professional who cherished the anchor position as a trust handed down across generations.

He always knew how lucky he was, and he certainly knows how badly he has stumbled. Whether he eventually can regain what he has lost is a matter for him and the suits at NBC to sort out. Inevitably, their calculations will include commercial as well as journalistic values. While that process unfolds, however, he deserves a few words of defense against the eager mob of executioners now swinging the ax with such gusto.

It is ironic, to put it very mildly, that more than a decade after the Iraq invasion, which resulted from official and journalistic deceptions on a vast scale, the only individual deemed worthy of punishment is a TV newsman who inflated a war story on a talk show. And it is irritating, too, that so many of the NBC anchor’s harshest critics are heard on Fox News Channel, where lying is a way of life, as Leonard Pitts, Jr., noted recently.

 To recall just one especially pertinent example: Fox host Sean Hannity, who now demands Williams’ head on a stick, repeatedly told TV and radio audiences that “every penny” from his Freedom Alliance concerts would benefit the children of deceased veterans. It was a lie, because huge amounts of the proceeds were squandered on “conferences” and other dubious expenses. But Hannity got away with it because he evidently hadn’t violated any laws.

 All the wingnuts ceaselessly barking about how Williams betrayed the vets could not have cared less.

 Indeed, it is puzzling that Williams has excited so much frothing anger on the right, where lying and deception are routinely excused, especially about military service. (George W. Bush prevaricated blatantly about his brief stint in the Texas Air National Guard, and Ronald Reagan lied about “liberating” a Nazi death camp — but nobody on the right cared much about that, either.) If anything, Williams is resolutely nonpartisan, and when I profiled him in 2008, he seemed slightly more enthusiastic about John McCain than Barack Obama. The son of a World War II Army captain, he idolized his father and has always venerated Americans in uniform – which may help to explain, along with a muddled memory and an apparent urge to embellish, how he fell into this current difficulty.

So far as anyone has determined, Williams is not guilty of the ultimate crime, which would be filing a false news report. His exaggerations all seem to have occurred on platforms other than the Nightly News. Widely repeated accusations by a far-right blogger that he puffed his award-winning Hurricane Katrina coverage with anecdotes about flooding and floating bodies remain unproven — and there is persuasive evidence supporting his remarks.

 It was during Katrina’s aftermath that Williams memorably demonstrated how well he does his work. Vanity Fair was not alone in praising his performance, noting that he “exhibited unfaltering composure, compassion, and grit,” the culmination of decades in broadcast journalism.

Today’s anchors are overpaid superstars, fighting for attention in a world no longer dominated by network news, but none of that is his fault. And in contrast to many of the charming faces on television news programs, he is an actual journalist with a long record of unblemished reporting.

So unless something worse emerges from NBC’s investigation, I share the view of Joe Summerlin, one of the brave veterans who really did survive that Chinook shoot-down in 2003, and publicly refuted Williams’ Iraq tale. His wording wasn’t generous, but his attitude is.

“Everyone tells lies,” the war veteran told the New York Times. “Every single one of us. The issue isn’t whether or not you lie. It is how you deal with it once you are caught. I thank you for stepping down for a few nights, Mr. Williams. Now can you admit that you didn’t ‘misremember’ and perform a real apology? I might even buy you a beer.”

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Joe Conason

A highly experienced journalist, author and editor, Joe Conason is the editor-in-chief of The National Memo, founded in July 2011. He was formerly the executive editor of the New York Observer, where he wrote a popular political column for many years. His columns are distributed by Creators Syndicate and his reporting and writing have appeared in many publications around the world, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Nation, and Harpers.

Since November 2006, he has served as editor of The Investigative Fund, a nonprofit journalism center, where he has assigned and edited dozens of award-winning articles and broadcasts. He is also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, The Hunting of the President (St. Martins Press, 2000) and Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (St. Martins Press, 2003).

Currently he is working on a new book about former President Bill Clinton's life and work since leaving the White House in 2001. He is a frequent guest on radio and television, including MSNBC's Morning Joe, and lives in New York City with his wife and two children.

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  1. myrtonwoolen February 12, 2015

    What about the ones that cover up the real facts about fast and furious beng.cover up Hilary and 50% of the rest of politics the misleading news media ;but the news media covers up so many corrupted politicians

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    1. Joe T February 12, 2015

      The ignorant and gullible are sadly not capable of complaining vociferously about those type of persons in govt and elected officials.The liberals mainly use blame and deception to protect themselves.

      Take Obamacare for example, NOTHING BUT A MYRIAD OF LIES TO THE PEOPLE, but hey, it’s OK, it’s for your own good, says Pelosi and Herr Obama and pundits like Gruber’s MIT guy.

      Ethics, morality and integrity are NOT found in society and govt employees, per se’…remember the IRS emails that couldn’t be found and then were….nothing but LIES.

      Society is lost in the weeds of confusion and the forest of lies in this Obama administration….and the band plays on.

      Terrorists aren’t really terrorists, they are misguided and misunderstood when they maim and murder others NOT like them. in thinking and believing; aka radical Islamic followers.

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      1. myrtonwoolen February 12, 2015

        what is the sad part is ;it aint hurting the old but it is going o hurt the grand children future of keeping the corrupted politicians and taking the poltical election money ;in my growing up days the journalist loved to report the political corrupted politician

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          Yes…and then Liberalism entered the equation.

          February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

          As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery

          The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

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          1. awakenaustin February 12, 2015

            You are a moron, pure and simple. Enough said.

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          2. Joe T February 12, 2015

            ditto

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          3. XJ13 February 12, 2015

            Yeah, I’m sure you be the ditto head in the room.

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          4. Joe T February 12, 2015

            Your vitriolic posts are neither rational nor logical for public forums.

            Not rational, for you ineptly sans pretext attack the messenger.

            Not logical, for the message is reported verified from public sources.

            Veracity of an event, sans spin is foreign to you, but using effrontery is not.

            Posts are difficult and troubling for you to comprend and organize in your mind.

            Dialogue is succinct to others in diverse political forums sans vexation.

            Events regarding U.S. politics, terrorism and social issues are worldwide.

            Irrational disparaging words refutes and does not boaster your point of view.

            Reflecting on your mental state, it compulsuvely makes you “act” this way to strangers.

            Your irrresponsibility is not beneficial to public forums in general.

            Succinctly it’s a radical method you use when trying to impugn a truth; coupled with an inability to express positive emotions.

            You’re cognizant of what front-porching or parallel communications entails.

            Replying with truth, without a spin doctor reply and rhetoric is judicious.

            Continuing “ad nauseam” (like you) to explain your inane uneducated replies of your temerity and unintelligible palaver that reeks with ill bipolar tendencies resulting in minatory statements by you exhibiting personal rage sans cause.

            Pursuant your passive-aggressive nature, albeit formed years ago in your psyche via physical or mental trauma you may have encountered maybe thru no fault of your own causing your evidentiary paranoid delusions in your inept thought process.

            {Opinion vs fact – An opinion is not fact – a fact is not opinion. Debate vs argument -to debate is to utilize logic – to argue is embracing violence. Assertiveness is being confident while aggressiveness is truculent. Strangers don’t interact in a bombastic manner like you. Treatment is highly recommended for you with a Psychiatrist who can dispense Psychotropic medications for your mental (thought process) state that emulates the radical thought process of Islamic Muslims and having truculent tendencies, you act on.}

            You are lost in weeds of confusion; do you have any immediate family or relatives any friends. You radically impungn with aberrant actions and misguided information.

            Personal behavior in today’s times by radical Muslims who devoutly follow the heinous Islamic pseudo teaching (called religion) and their Allah. Can’t you understand that?Psychology. a person whose behavior is governed by a compulsion.

            R U an acolyte of radical Islamic teachings? Still a Communist/Socialist sympathizer?

            The difference between a sociopath and a psychopath is germane to life.

            One hates people – the other hates them enough to kill them; e.g. Islamic radicals.

            You catigorically exhibit radical emotional rage for anyone/public to ascertain.

            Your intelligence level is self-evident lacking in common sense sans credibility.

            Good luck trying to live a sane life in the chaotic world your gray matter delves in.

            Please, cease embarra”ass”ing yourself in public forums with rude personal angst posts.

            Posts are so rambling and so far out in LEFT field you’re not even in a forum’s ballpark.

            You consider all news reported worldwide to be false regarding Dems/Obama.

            To wit: “wouldst not play false and yet would wrongly win”- Shakespeare

            Why are you attemping to defend Dems/Obama? Did someone hurt/damage you mentally, physically,or finanicially? Your putative mental obsession to attack strangers is not normal behavior for societal interaction. Hence, psychological theraputic services is recommended. Pursuant to caustic demeanor this reply may appear on other forums; you rant on.

            “Thoughts are the shadows of (y)our feelings — always darker, emptier and simpler.”

            ― Friedrich Nietzsche

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          5. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

            tldr

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          6. awakenaustin February 12, 2015

            Agreeing with me that you are a moron is the only accurate statement I have witnessed you making here.
            (I suspect you misunderstand your own use of “ditto” here. Objective proof you have no idea what you are talking about.)

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          7. Joe T February 12, 2015

            ditto to you again
            and best regards, Joe T

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          8. Leftout February 12, 2015

            Beautiful and right on. Looking into a mirror is difficult , it shows reality.

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          9. XJ13 February 12, 2015

            What a fool you are.

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          10. Joe T February 12, 2015

            ditto

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          11. Bodine666 February 12, 2015

            Just out of curiosity what orifice did you pull this pack of hogwash from? You wonder around spitting out one unconnected thought after another that all seem to contradict each other. Definitely the ramblings of a conservative. Did you copy this from Sarah Palin?
            Doesn’t matter really. This just out. Some people say that they read this and it is fact. Forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter was recently diagnosed as a schizophrenic. He suffers from paranoid delusions, and visions of grandeur. He is also strongly suspected of being bipolar. He also suffers from a disease much worse than this. He is a conservative. One of the few mental disorders that holds very little hope for a cure. It is characterized by the following:
            Conservatives are highly submissive to established authority, aggressive in the name of that authority, and conventional to the point of insisting everyone should behave as their authorities decide. They are fearful and self-righteous and have a lot of hostility in them that they readily direct toward various out-groups. They are easily incited, easily led, rather uninclined to think for themselves, largely impervious to facts and reason, and rely instead on social support to maintain their beliefs. They bring strong loyalty to their in-groups, have thick-walled, highly compartmentalized minds, use a lot of double standards in their judgments, are surprisingly unprincipled at times, and are often hypocrites.
            But they are also Teflon-coated when it comes to guilt. They are blind to themselves, ethnocentric and prejudiced, and as closed-minded as they are narrowminded. They can be woefully uninformed about things they oppose, but they prefer ignorance and want to make others become as ignorant as they. They are also surprisingly uninformed about the things they say they believe in, and deep, deep, deep down inside many of them have secret doubts about their core belief.

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          12. Joe T February 12, 2015

            There’s a devout Muslim in the office of the United States of America Presidency, by deception and assistance from others like minded in the USA govt; therefore,

            if any red blooded American denies this they are either insane or part of the problem.

            By his own daily words and deleterious acts is the proof verified daily. Once a Muslim ALWAYS a Muslim. Period.

            A MUSLIM BELIEVES ALL OF THE KORAN OR THEY ARE NOT A MUSLIM.THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE FOR THEM TO CLAIM TO BE A FOLLOWER OF THE KORAN.

            IF THEY (Muslins) believe the Qur’an/Koran……and you do NOT……you should be killed or dead as for as they are concerned. 4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.3.85: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers…..from the Qur’an!

            KEEP BELIEVING THEY ARE PEACEFUL…..8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels:

            I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off (behead) their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

            The Qur’an was an oral text throughout the lifetime of Muhammad; it was also a fluid text. The complete text resided only in the memories of Muhammad and his followers. As he added verses and reorganized the text, his followers would rememorize the text in the light of the additions or edits. This means that the Qur’an was a living text during the lifetime of Muhammad. Certain verses revealed to Muhammad were later repudiated by him as “satanic” verses revealed not by Gabriel but by Satan. These verses were expunged from the text that so many had memorized.

            It’s plain to see Barack Hussein Obama has loyalties to this ideology that he can’t hide. It’s self-evident for many reasons; one of which is that he clearly avoids (refuses) to call the terrorists by their identity of followers of Islamic teachings, proven by the Qur’an (Koran) to be VIOLENT. For Manchurian* Candidate substitute the word Muslim.* This is occurring world wide at a rapid rate, due to verbiage changes by current covert leaders.

            IF YOU CLAIM TO BE A MUSLIM…..KORAN commands to kill infidels:

            Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98

            On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161

            Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191

            Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39

            Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216

            (different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

            ….. martyrs…. Enter heaven – Surah 3:140-43

            If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. – 3:157-8

            You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. – Surah 3:169-71

            Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. – Surah 4:74

            Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. – 4:76

            But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. – 4:89

            Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. – 5:14

            O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54

            Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme – 8:39

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          13. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

            tl:dr

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          14. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

            tlBS

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        2. idamag February 12, 2015

          In my gorwing-up days, they didn’t buy ads on cable tv. the television stations were not a conglomerate then. Each candidate was given equal free time. Money has corrupted all that.

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      2. itsfun February 12, 2015

        They are not terrorists, they are the JV team.

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      3. XJ13 February 12, 2015

        You’re a sad story all in yourself. Myriad of lies? What gives you your lock on “truth”? Kind of makes you a liar, to be lying about who you think of as liars. I bet your entire world is built on a myriad of lies. Try to think about it without your head exploding.

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          · Top Commenter · Community College of Vermont

          “Obama: Don’t Worry, Iran Nuke Would Be Against Their Religion”

          And Dear Mr. President, which religion would that be? It must be that Pakistan has a Different Islamic Religion then Iran….

          Pakistan currently has 100 – 120 Nukes and are still working on them. So please tell us again how it is against their religion… You lying bag OF _ _ _ _.

          Top Commenter · California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly)

          If you want a good read on Obama believe the opposite of what he says, some people are bent on distruction, and most are in the Mid East., when human beings can burn someone alive ,go ahead give them a nuke and see what they’ll do…

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          Top Commenter

          he lies so much he cant even remember his lies, an than he lies about his lies,, he would know the truth if it slapped him in the face,his word doesnt mean a thing.. and i wonder if he thinks people believe any thing he says.he cant tell the truth for lying,, and when he gets up there to speak he doesnt know what he is talking about,, he is a queer and that thing he calls a wife well it is a he,, isnt that something that we have a queer for a president,, and we have a queer for the first lady, ,,you just cant make this stuff up,

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          Top Commenter · Leander, Texas

          He’s not interested in defeating them!… He’s been helping them all along! …

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      4. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

        But morons remain morons. Thanks for proving that.

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    2. oldtack February 12, 2015

      Would you please share your documented knowledge of the Inception of “Fast and Furious, It’s intended purpose, the obstacles of State Laws and what the exact overall impact was? It was enacted, it had a purpose, it met obstacles and it failed to meet its objective. I think all on the forum would appreciate your enlightening discourse on this subject.

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      1. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

        A head just exploded. 🙂

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    3. itsfun February 12, 2015

      Don’t forget about poor ole Hillary getting shot at in Bosnia. Would that be classified as a small or big lie?

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  2. Thomas James February 12, 2015

    What about those who said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and non were found. Will they suffer the same fate as Williams?

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    1. Dominick Vila February 12, 2015

      I doubt it. They are too big to fail. Besides, many of the 4,500 American troops killed in Iraq were probably Democrats, the 600,000 Iraqis killed, and the two million who had to flee their country, were Muslims, which does not count and, best of all, two trillion dollars were re-distributed successfully to friendly corporations. The whole thing makes perfect sense, if you are a pseudo “conservative” with a major short circuit in your gray mass.

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      1. FT66 February 12, 2015

        And still people say there is fairness? NBC, bring back Brian Williams to work. His lies didn’t cause anyone to lose life. NBC, you are being played by conservatives, the same people who never care to watch your channel. All these is about jealous not near to envy as all the time they are mentioning on FoxNews Brian has 9 million viewers. What has this to do with his mistakes???

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        1. mike February 12, 2015

          You miss the point again, the word is TRUST. Those 9 million, trusted that Brain was telling them the truth.
          He got caught in his own lie/lies. Why would the audience trust him in the future??? Just like Obama and his continuous lying to Americans, the majority of Americans no longer trust him.
          Brian is toast! Probably will stay with NBC in some capacity, but he will be gone from Nightly News. He was ranked the 23rd most trusted person in America, and the suspension dropped to 835(same level as Gene Hackman, Russell Westbrook).
          Before the implementation of Obamacare, Obama was 65th(may 2013) of most trusted people in US. Hate to see where he stands now.

          If he can embellish his personal experiences, what else is he capable of embellishing??
          It is called Trust.

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          1. FT66 February 12, 2015

            Brian William will come back and will talk to liberals as he used to do. You conservatives not need to listen to him as you have used to do. We have so far understood  th purpose of your dirty game. Leave Brian with his lies with us, and care your own business. This is not the way to start 2016 you conservatives. Remember we are more cleverer than you are. Please stop this kind of dirty games. OK?

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          2. mike February 12, 2015

            LMAO again at your expense.
            We will see in 6 months if he is still around. The Bet is he won’t be.
            Not surprised that you want to keep Brian and his lies, fits you to a “T”.
            Dirty games??? More laughter from me.

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          3. FT66 February 12, 2015

            Mike, I can assure you Brian Williams will be back as soon as possible. Let us see the conservatives like you stopping him and dare stopping his salary. We are all tired and pissed off being played around. You keep an eye to our people like Keith Ob.., Bashir and now Brian Williams. We can’t take it any more. Do you think your people there: Bill O’Reily, Sean Hannity, Kelly Megyn etc. etc. are all angels??? Enough of fooling every one around.

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          4. mike February 12, 2015

            Fooling around, playing around, really!!!!
            Brian Williams caused his own demise. NBC ratings have fallen, brought on by giving Williams too much control of the Nightly News. His downfall is not from one embellishment but from several, and probably more to come.
            Most normal people see a major flaw in him and are saying to themselves “what else has he lied about.”
            He won’t be back in his time spot.

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          5. FT66 February 12, 2015

            In your mind Mike, do you think those people who used to watch Brian Williams will now switch to Fox News?? Can you please leave us alone watching the lies? We like them and we like our Brian. Stay there where you are and it would be nice that you know your borders. OK? No interferrance please!!

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          6. mike February 12, 2015

            Now Now I never mentioned FOX.

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          7. FT66 February 12, 2015

            Dear Mike, you once called me delusional. I took it as am used with these kind of people. How come you are continuing to engage with people like me? I am quite astonished.

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          8. mike February 12, 2015

            You keep responding like a Pavlov’s dog.

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          9. idamag February 12, 2015

            He should go back to watching Sean Hannity while playing with his pajama string.

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          10. idamag February 12, 2015

            Even Chris Christi put megan kelly in her place. I loved it. Huricane Sandy is raging up the East Coast. The President flies out to assess the problem and give support to New Jersey. The President and the Governor are walking up the beach and megan kelley calls Christi on his mobile phone. She asked him if he were going to give equal time to Mitt Romney. Stupid, the ultimate. Christy said, “I don’t give a damn about politics we have 200,000 people without electricity.”

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        2. Dominick Vila February 12, 2015

          In my opinion, the real reason for Brian’s departure involve the problems the Television News industry has in attracting an audience. The days when Walter Cronkite and David Brinkley were household names are gone. In the age of the Kardashians and “Selfies”, objective journalism, especially when it entails News, is dead on arrival. To overcome the challenge of an intellectually challenged audience, TV organizations depend on pretty faces, funny anchors, and those considered heroes worthy of adoration by a captive crowd because of who they are rather than what they report. Brian Williams embellished his experience in a war theater to appeal to his audience, and when his claim was exposed as a lie, he was quickly pushed aside and replaced with another talking head.

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    2. FT66 February 12, 2015

      You are quite right. If the time has come to deal with those who made mistakes in the past (like Brian Williams), it is the time also to deal with those who lied about WMD and people died. They also didn’t care about human being lives during Katrina.

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    3. LadyImpactOhio February 12, 2015

      You are very late to the game. Guess you missed it but they were found.

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      1. FT66 February 12, 2015

        They were found??? And where are they kept now?? In Texas or at Dick Cheney’s place?

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      2. oldtack February 12, 2015

        Tell us what was “found”, when it was “found” who “found” it and what documentation do they have to show that it really existed. There has to be a paper trail else it becomes undocumented BS

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        1. idamag February 12, 2015

          They sure forgot to make sure it got in the headlines and that the people were informed. You’d think something of that magnitude and importance would have been given some press wouldn’t you?

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          1. oldtack February 12, 2015

            Exactly

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      3. XJ13 February 12, 2015

        SURE they were. Rewrite that history all you like–nobody actually cares what you think.

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        1. idamag February 12, 2015

          I think the Iraqis invented invisible paint and painted them so no one could see them.

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      4. jakenhyde February 12, 2015

        @Lady….what they found were empty shells of munitions that the US had sent to Saddam for his fight against Iran. Please try to keep up.

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        1. idamag February 12, 2015

          If the laqyimpact had real provable information, she needs to make sure George W. Bush gets it. He said the worst part of his presidency is when no WMDs were found. He would love her if she shared her inside information with him.

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      5. idamag February 12, 2015

        I always felt you wingnuts were mean people, but to keep it a secret, about WMDs from George Bush who agonized over it, is beyond the pale. I’m sure you went to Iraq and documented everything you found with pictures and everything.

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        1. angelsinca February 13, 2015

          Not only late but never even bothered to show up.

          http://kdminer.com/main.asp?SectionID=109&SubsectionID=1013&ArticleID=56674

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    4. oldtack February 12, 2015

      Thomas James
      Surely you jest!
      WMDS were put out to the TV talking head bimbos by our erstwhile U S Government. The bimbos can’t be held accountable lest our Government be held accountable for propagating this lie.

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    5. idamag February 12, 2015

      And when they lied, people died.

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    6. Leftout February 13, 2015

      Scud Missiles, Iraq War I ,

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  3. Daniel Liechty February 12, 2015

    The hubris here is from so-called journalists who maintain an illusion that the Brian Williams types are anything other than TV personalities and entertainers. “Credibility” is not at stake at all, only viewer ratings. Much as Williams has struggled in the last few years, on SNL and elsewhere, to create a TV “personality” out of being stilted and stiff, it has had only limited success. My strong suspicion is that many at NBC have wanted to dump Williams for quite some time in favor of a more telegenic and charismatic face in that chair, but lacked the pretense for doing so the would pass PR muster. Now they have one. Game over.

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  4. Eleanore Whitaker February 12, 2015

    The very best thing that comes out of this boondoggle is not Brian Williams lies. But the dark, evil shadow behind NBC…Rupert Murdoch. When, oh when, do these billionaires learn they are not gods? They all swaggering and bluster and then get their butts in hot water with such frequency and all because their egos grow faster than their money.

    Now, NBC itself will lose ratings for no reason other than it is a comedy on a par with any other situation comedy.

    The idea that news can be reported in a biased fashion and that all of that bias depends on who holds all the media bucks is now in the toilet.

    So..One down…4 more media dictator moguls to go: Zuckerberg (NY Post, Charles and David Koch (Chicago Sun Times owners) and Ted Turner…Ultra Conservatives all.

    When you are caught creating lies to sell news, what other skankage are these hot shots capable of?

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    1. DezJimmar February 12, 2015

      I’m confused… you associated Rupert Murdoch with NBC. He owns Fox. Did I miss something in your comment?

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker February 12, 2015

        There are, in actuality only 6 major news corporations with hundred of smaller affiliates. NBC Nightly News is part of NBC Universal, a wholly owned corporation. It’s current CEO is Steve Burke. Murdoch’s father, Sir Keith Arthur Murdoch, was founder, chairman and CEO of News CORP which Murdoch inherited. He remains a board member of News Corp of which NBC Universal is a part.

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        1. JoyceD February 12, 2015

          Thanks for the cogent explanation. Always the rant is “the liberal media . . . yadda yadda”, when in fact the big media corporations are ALL conservative and their bias determines the information they deliver. It’s not “news” at all except in terms of sensationalism.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker February 13, 2015

            Thank you. I always try to provide the most factual support of my posts. When only 6 tyrannical men of ultra conservatism attempt mass indoctrination by publishing their media in their ideology, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that they are playing the same kind of mind games with the public that we know as the Manchurian Candidate indoctrination.

            The biggest danger today is the hi-tech devices that have the potential to literally turn the US into an Orwellian replica of “1984,” where the only news heard comes from a single source.

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          2. joe schmo February 14, 2015

            Eleanore, you are certainly NOT the most factual person on this site. In fact, I have caught you in several lies. Even though he once was he no longer is….

            As of 2012 Murdoch resigned his post for NBC.

            Rupert Murdoch (pictured at left) has resigned from a number of News Corp. boards.

            Pat Fili-Krushel has been named chairman, news group, at NBCUniversal. Fili-Krushel, who joined NBC when Comcast took over, will now oversee a new unit called the NBCUniversal News group comprised of NBC News, CNBC, MSNBC, The Weather Channel and all their digital
            properties. (TVNewser)

            As for NewsCorp – Here are all the holdings for the Company.

            http://www.cjr.org/resources/?c=newscorp

            No mention of NBC…..

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      2. Joe T February 12, 2015

        FOX has been the leading television network in the U.S. for a record eight consecutive years. In October 1996, News Corporation launched the FOX News Channel — the undisputed leader in 24-hour news service. The Company has also successfully established some of the U.S. and the world’s most popular cable networks, including Fox Sports Network, FX and the National Geographic Channels. Facebook group:

        The No. 2 owner of Fox News is Prince Alwaleed bin Talal who said ‘a strong American government is not good for us’………..MUSLIMS

        By Katie Sanders on Monday, January 6th, 2014 at 10:44 a.m.

        Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns a 7 percent stake in News Corp — the parent company of Fox News — making him the largest shareholder outside the family of News Corp CEO Rupert Murdoch.Feb 10, 2010

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    2. Joe T February 12, 2015

      Eleanore is suffering from a Psychosis in her mind affecting her thought process.

      {Psychosis is a serious mental disorder characterized by thinking and emotions that are so impaired, that they indicate that the person experiencing them has lost contact with reality.}

      {These experiences can be frightening and may cause people who are suffering from psychosis to hurt themselves or “others”. It is important to see a doctor right away if you or someone you know is experiencing symptoms of psychosis.}

      Reading her troubling posts in a public forum with the intensity of her language and hatred.

      This reply to ELEANORE WHITAKER is for her health and our safety for cause.

      Eleanore Whitaker your vitriolic posts are neither rational nor logical.

      Not rational, sans pretext attacking the messenger vehemently.

      Not logical, for the message( post) is verifable from public sources.

      Reporting of an event/dialogue, sans spin is foreign to you; effrontery is not.

      Posts are difficult for you to comprehend and troubling in your mind.

      Posts you attack are canny to others in political public forums.

      Events regarding U.S. politics, terrorism and social issues are verified worldwide.

      Irrational disparaging words refute your posts and do not boaster your point.

      Reflect on your mental state it compulsively makes you “act” obdurate to others.

      Iresponsibility is nonbeneficial to public forums posted by you.

      Succinctly it’s an offensive method you use trying to impugn truth, which is coupled with an inability to express any positive emotions without a spin doctor rhetorical reply form you.

      Continuing “ad nauseam” (like you) to explain your inane uneducated replies of your temerity and unintelligible palaver that reeks with ill bipolar tendencies resulting in minatory statements by you exhibiting personal rage sans cause.

      Pursuant to your passive-aggressive behavior albeit formed years ago in your psyche via physical or mental post- traumatic event you may have encountered “maybe” thru no fault of your own, causing your evidentiary delusions in your state of mind.

      {Opinion vs fact – An opinion is not fact – a fact is not opinion. Debate vs argument -to debate is to utilize logic – to argue is embracing violence. Assertiveness is being confident while aggressiveness is truculent. Strangers don’t interact in a bombastic manner like you. Treatment is highly recommended for you with a Psychiatrist who can dispense Psychotropic medications for your mental (thought process) state that emulates the radical thought process of Islamic Muslims having truculent tendencies that you emulate.}

      You are lost in the weeds of confusion with odious thoughts.

      Have any immediate family/relatives/friends?

      Personal demeanor today by radical Muslims who devoutly follow the Islamic teaching comports a person’s behavior governed by a compulsion…..beheading etc.

      R U an acolyte of radical Islamic teachings or still a Communist/Sociopathy sympathizer?

      Psychopathy and sociopathy are anti-social personality disorders.

      The difference between a sociopath and a psychopath is germane to society.

      One hates people – the other hates them enough to kill them; e.g. Islamic radicals.

      You categorically exhibit radical emotional rage for anyone to ascertain and witness.

      Your intelligence level is self-evident lacking in common sense sans credibility.

      Good luck trying to enjoy a sane life in the chaotic world your thoughts delve in.

      Cease embarra”ass”ing yourself in public forums with rude personal angst posts.

      Posts so rambling and so far out in LEFT field you’re not even in a forum’s ballpark.

      You consider all news reported worldwide to be false regarding Dems/Obama.

      To wit: “wouldst not play false and yet would wrongly win”- Shakespeare

      You are attempting to defend Dems/Obama! Did someone mortify you mentally? Your putative mental obsession to attack strangers is aberrant in societal interaction. Hence, a psychological analysis is recommended. Pursuant to your demeanor the reply may appear on other forums you rant on.

      January 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm

      The Muslim in Chief is doing his best to destroy our constitution and our nation.

      Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-administration-is-fuming-over-the-israeli-leaders-plans-to/#xISAtRjhTFMYymbf.99

      “Thoughts are the shadows of (y)our feelings — always darker, emptier and simpler.”

      ― Friedrich Nietzsche

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      1. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

        Could you summarize?

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker February 12, 2015

          Summarize? From a nut? This guy belongs in a mental institution.

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          1. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

            That was sarcasm. 🙂

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        2. Joe T February 12, 2015

          YES.stay tuned

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      2. Eleanore Whitaker February 12, 2015

        Joe T…Your posts long ago failed the credibility tests from the minute you started your yapping and ranting “Blame Obama! Blame Liberals!” Don’t pass stools where you eat pallie. Your CONs are not getting away with erasing the Great Recession you asshats of the right caused or the continuance of mindless austerity.

        Get a life you pathetic little runt.

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          ditto

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  5. jakenhyde February 12, 2015

    Amazing. The puppets at Faux News get the truth confused all the time and nobody says one mumblin’ word about it. Maybe it’s because folks are so used to their lies that they are no longer bothered by them.
    Jon Stewart, Colbert and Maddow seem to be the only ones who call Faux on their transgressions.

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    1. Joe T February 12, 2015

      · READTop Commenter · Community College of Vermont

      “Obama: Don’t Worry, Iran Nuke Would Be Against Their Religion”

      And Dear Mr. President, which religion would that be? It must be that Pakistan has a Different Islamic Religion then Iran….

      Pakistan currently has 100 – 120 Nukes and are still working on them. So please tell us again how it is against their religion… You lying bag OF _ _ _ _.

      Top Commenter · California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly)

      If you want a good read on Obama believe the opposite of what he says, some people are bent on distruction, and most are in the Mid East., when human beings can burn someone alive ,go ahead give them a nuke and see what they’ll do…

      Reply · · 9 · 2 hours ago

      Top Commenter

      he lies so much he cant even remember his lies, an than he lies about his lies,, he would know the truth if it slapped him in the face,his word doesnt mean a thing.. and i wonder if he thinks people believe any thing he says.he cant tell the truth for lying,, and when he gets up there to speak he doesnt know what he is talking about,, he is a queer and that thing he calls a wife well it is a he,, isnt that something that we have a queer for a president,, and we have a queer for the first lady, ,,you just cant make this stuff up,

      Reply · · 15 · about an hour ago

      Top Commenter · Leander, Texas

      He’s not interested in defeating them!… He’s been helping them all along! …

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      1. jakenhyde February 12, 2015

        What did all that jibberish have to do with my post that Faux News lies all the time and is rarely called on the carpet for their lies?

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          THE pseudo President lies 24/7Obama’s ‘blizzard of lies’ – The Washington Post

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/…obamas…lies/…/7acc3d2...

          The Washington Post

          Oct 13, 2014 – A recent Fox News poll asked Americans “How often does Barack Obama lie to the country on important matters?” Thirty-seven percent said …

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        2. Joe T February 12, 2015

          “I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.” – Nietzche

          Obama’s ‘blizzard of lies’

          When do LIARS like President Obama deserve ANY respect, he doesn’t respect the citizens of the United States or the people who he PREVARICATES to 24/7 .

          By Marc A. Thiessen October 13, 2014

          In 1996, the late, great New York Times columnist William Safire published a column, “Blizzard of lies,” in which he laid out a series of falsehoods by Hillary Rodham Clinton and declared “Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady — a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation — is a congenital liar.”

          Today, Americans of all political stripes are coming to a similar, sad realization about our president. A recent Fox News poll asked Americans “How often does Barack Obama lie to the country on important matters?” Thirty-seven percent said “most of the time,” 24 percent said “some of the time,” and 20 percent said “only now and then.” Just 15% said “never.”

          Think about that: 81 percent of Americans believe that Obama lies to them at least “now and then” on “important matters.” That is simply stunning.These Americans are right. The latest evidence came when The Post revealed that on Friday, April 20, 2012, Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan came to White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler with a specific, credible allegation of misconduct by a member of the White House advance team in Cartegena, Colombia.

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        3. Joe T February 12, 2015

          “I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.” Neitzsche

          Human beings are adept in lying, some more than others; truth is better than lies.

          Most prevaricate for power, greed, deception, and protection of one’s ego.

          Obama is a prime example for cause.

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        4. Joe T February 12, 2015

          I guess if there was a beheading in the White House…that would definitely be workplace violence, with what machinations are going on there on a daily basis………need a reality show or internet game called…..”What crisis, scandal or lies are happening today in Lu Lu Land, aka Obama’s WH….yes?

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        5. Joe T February 12, 2015

          252 Documented Examples of Barack Obama’s Lying …

          http://www.infowars.com/252-documented-examples-of-barack-oba...

          Alex Jones

          Aug 29, 2013 – Every President, every politician, and every human being tells lies …. The ACLU accused Obama of violating the U.S. Constitution for doing this.

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        6. Joe T February 12, 2015

          Truth Hurts? NY Times Admits Fox’s Megyn Kelly Is a ‘Breakthrough Artist’

          By Tim Graham | January 23, 2015 | 2:26 PM EST

          Moment” bSunday’s New York Times Magazine includes a generally favorable story on “The Megyn Kelly y Times reporter Jim Rutenberg (once a media-beat specialist). Rutenberg acknowledged how thoroughly Kelly dominates her time slot and is battling with Bill O’Reilly for the top of the cable-news mountain. He described a sharp-elbowed Wednesday night program and followed up.

          Her audience of 2.8 million was four times as large as Rachel Maddow’s on MSNBC and six times larger as that of Somebody’s Gotta Do It, the Mike Rowe program on CNN about people who devote their lives to odd passions. In fact, The Kelly File was the highest-rated nonsports program in her time slot in all of basic cable in 2014. For Roger Ailes, the Fox News Channel chairman and chief executive, who put her there and raised her in his television image, Kelly has become his “breakthrough artist,” the one who will define Fox’s future.

          In the process, Kelly’s program has not just given America’s top-rated news channel its biggest new hit in 13 years; it has demonstrated an appeal to the younger and (slightly) more ideologically diverse demographic Fox needs as it seeks to claim even more territory on the American journo-political landscape.

          See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2015/01/23/truth-hurts-ny-times-admits-foxs-megyn-kelly-breakthrough-artist#sthash.LmroVuzj.THpbBQS5.dpuf

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        7. Joe T February 12, 2015

          Why it is easy for President Obama to lie to the American …

          http://www.foxnews.com/…/why-it-is-easy-for-president-ob...

          Fox News Channel

          Nov 18, 2013 – In this case, the president lied to Americans about the Affordable Care Act, promising that passing the legislation meant they could keep their …

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        8. Joe T February 12, 2015

          5 lies that have shaped the Obama presidency | New York .

          nypost.com/…/how-falsehoods-and-fibs-have-shaped-the-…

          New York PostSep 13, 2014 – Although the most consequential of Obama’s lies — it got him … Here are five that illustrate just how much Obama’s presidency is built on …

          1. “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

          2. “We revealed to the American people exactly what we understood at the time.”

          3. “Not even a smidgen of corruption.”

          4. “The Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration.”

          5. “My father left my family when I was 2 years old.”

          The biggest Pinocchios of 2013 – The Washington Post

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/…/the-biggest-pinocchio...

          The Washington Post

          Dec 16, 2013 – In some cases, in light of new information, we adjusted Pinocchio ratings. … This was our most popular fact check of the year — and Obama’s … The biggest Pinocchios of 2014 – The Washington Post

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/…/the-biggest-pinocchios-o...

          The Washington Post

          Dec 15, 2014 – (Before anyone asks, Obama’s “if you want to keep your plan” was … In some cases, in light of new information, we adjusted Pinocchio ratings.

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        9. Jerseysmelltours March 7, 2015

          jakenhyde: This “Joe T” take’s spamming to a new and horrible level with his rant’s? Nice work sir.

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      2. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

        Mouth dump.

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          Discussion on The National Memo 224 comments

          What The Right Doesn’t Get About Obama And Religion

          Eleanore Whitaker mike 2 minutes ago

          You can’t LMAO…your butt is bigger than a Long Horns. As for garbage, you’ve yet to post a single thing you can prove in court. You’re chewed up and spit out. Admit it.

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          Eleanore Whitaker mike 43 minutes ago

          The only load of garbage is that which fills the deadened brain of a jerk like you. You really can’t handle the truth can you? Shows what an asshat you prove yourself to be. I guess you’d know garbage being a garbage man yourself.

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          Eleanore Whitaker mike 3 hours ago

          And before you go there, here are 4 GOP bulls who smoked pot and publicly admitted it and then like the phonies they are soft sold it publicly to avoid having to admit it during their campaigns:

          Jeb Bush:

          “I drank alcohol and I smoked marijuana when I was at Andover,” he said. “It was pretty common.” Jeb Bush. Jan. 15, 2015 to a reporter of the Boston Globe.

          Ted Cruz: (From his TX spokesman to the British tabloid, “The Daily Mail:”

          “Teenagers are often known for their lack of judgment, and Sen. Cruz was no exception,” a Cruz spokesman told the British tabloid The Daily Mail. “When he was a teenager, he foolishly experimented with marijuana. It was a mistake, and he’s never tried it since.”

          Rand Paul:
          “One of his frat buddies was more forthright. “Randy smoked pot,” William Hill told Politico in 2010.

          And then there was the bizarre episode of the Aqua Buddha, an entity reportedly worshiped by a campus group to which Paul belonged. GQreported in 2010 that Paul and Hill prankishly abducted a woman student who was on the swim team with Paul. “He and Randy came to my house, they knocked on my door, and they blindfolded me, tied me up, and put me in their car. They took me to their apartment and tried to force me to take bong hits. They’d been smoking,” said the woman, who wished to remain anonymous.

          “They told me their god was Aqua Buddah and I needed to bow down and worship him,” she recalled. “They blindfolded me and made me bow down to Aqua Budda in the creek.”

          Marco Rubio:
          The junior senator from Florida won’t say whether he has passed the Dutchie, repeatedly calling such queries “irrelevant.” And besides, no one believes what he says on the topic anyway, he claimed.

          “If I tell you that I haven’t, you won’t believe me. And if I tell you that I did, then kids will look up to me and say, ‘Well, I can smoke marijuana because look how he made it. He did alright so I guess I can do it too,'” he told The Hill. “And the bottom line is that it is a substance that alters your mind. Now when I was 17 and 18 and 16, I made dumb decisions as is. I didn’t need the help of marijuana or alcohol to further that.”

          But the senator wasn’t 17 or 18 last year, when he used the occasion of a Senate filibuster to quote lyrics from the notoriously pot-friendly rapper Wiz Khalifa.

          So…the President was the ONLY elected official YOU could find to criticize for smoking pot. Go wipe the EGG off your puss.

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        2. Joe T February 12, 2015

          So you are cognizant of E whittaker

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        3. Joe T February 12, 2015

          Eleanore Whitaker
          Recent ActivityRecent
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          Discussion on The National Memo 226 comments

          What The Right Doesn’t Get About Obama And Religion

          Eleanore Whitaker mike 9 minutes ago

          You can’t LMAO…your butt is bigger than a Long Horns. As for garbage, you’ve yet to post a single thing you can prove in court. You’re chewed up and spit out. Admit it.

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          Eleanore Whitaker mike an hour ago

          The only load of garbage is that which fills the deadened brain of a jerk like you. You really can’t

          ……to be continued w/ 1000’s more just 4 U
          best regards as usual

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    2. idamag February 12, 2015

      I don’t think faux news ever worried about lies. It is their signature.

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      1. Joe T April 7, 2015

        The Ghostwriter communique’
        parallel time 07:23
        Input Info Unbiased News Ratings

        NEWS RATINGS MARCH 9, 2015

        Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.

        Fox News Channel beats out CNN for America’s most trusted cable or broadcast news coverage, and MSNBC lags far behind, even among Democrats, according to new polling done by Quinnipiac University. The poll found 29 percent of people say they trust Fox News’ coverage the most, followed by 22 percent for CNN and 10 percent for NBC News and CBS News. Fox News’ figures are unsurprising considering its ratings. The channel ended 2014 second only to ESPN in total viewers among all ad-supported basic cable networks. Its “America’s Newsroom,” “The Five,” “Special Report with Bret Baier” and “The O’Reilly Factor” were the most-watched shows in their time slots among all cable stations.

        Put simply: Fox News is a ratings juggernaut.

        Yes, FNC’s numbers are boosted by the fact that 58 percent of Republicans trust it the most; Fox News also has the most trusted coverage among independents with 25 percent.

        While Fox News is bolstered by the right, MSNBC doesn’t get the same support from the left. The poll found that more Democrats trust CNN (32 percent) and NBC News (15 percent) than MSNBC (14 percent, tied with CBS News).

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    3. Jerseysmelltours March 7, 2015

      jakenhyde: I disagree I believe the talking/spewing/hateful heads on Fox New’s don’t get confused with the truth and it’s relationship to their out and out hateful lies and garbage opinions(even they can’t admit to calling it “new’s”) The whole cast repeatedly use the catch phrases of the day to try and make it easy for their demographics, who are apparently troubled with creating their own opinions and ideas? It would be difficult to find a small amount of truth in any Fox New’s broadcast it’s just not necessary for their purposes and it’s audience’s?

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    4. Joe T April 7, 2015

      Ghostwriter communique’
      parallel time 07:23
      Input Info Unbiased News Ratings

      NEWS RATINGS MARCH 9, 2015

      Fox News is the most trusted national news channel. And it’s not that close.

      Fox News Channel beats out CNN for America’s most trusted cable or broadcast news coverage, and MSNBC lags far behind, even among Democrats, according to new polling done by Quinnipiac University. The poll found 29 percent of people say they trust Fox News’ coverage the most, followed by 22 percent for CNN and 10 percent for NBC News and CBS News. Fox News’ figures are unsurprising considering its ratings. The channel ended 2014 second only to ESPN in total viewers among all ad-supported basic cable networks. Its “America’s Newsroom,” “The Five,” “Special Report with Bret Baier” and “The O’Reilly Factor” were the most-watched shows in their time slots among all cable stations.

      Put simply: Fox News is a ratings juggernaut.

      Yes, FNC’s numbers are boosted by the fact that 58 percent of Republicans trust it the most; Fox News also has the most trusted coverage among independents with 25 percent.

      While Fox News is bolstered by the right, MSNBC doesn’t get the same support from the left. The poll found that more Democrats trust CNN (32 percent) and NBC News (15 percent) than MSNBC (14 percent, tied with CBS News).

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      1. jakenhyde April 7, 2015

        It doesn’t make any difference how many people watch Fox News. Those who do are less informed on world and domestic events than people who watch no news at all.
        http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2014/02/07/study-people-who-dont-watch-the-news-are-more-informed-than-fox-viewers/

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        1. Joe T April 7, 2015

          Yes it does make a “big” difference.

          NEWS POLLS
          The 2014 total daily viewer averages look like this: Fox News: 1,052,000 CNN: 399,000 MSNBC: 347,000 As you can see, Fox News isn’t in danger of being caught anytime soon. And that brings up a good question: if America is really split down the middle the way the polls always show, why is Fox News so much more popular than its liberal-leaning competitors? Is it because liberals don’t watch TV? Is it because Fox News does a better job of delivering some actual news to go with their opinion shows? I think it might be a little of both, but the more important factor may be a simpler one: Fox News is still – many years after its debut – a complete anomaly on television. Nowhere else can conservatives go on the dial to hear intelligent conversations without the usual liberal narrative. Sure, there are a handful of reality shows that feature conservatives, but you’re hardly going to turn on 19 Kids and Counting for a recap of the day’s events. Fox News did something extraordinary and special when they came on the air, and they remain committed to that mission today. Plus, even a liberal would have to admit that Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity are a hell of a lot more entertaining than Al Sharpton and Chris Hayes. And, frankly, Megyn Kelly is a lot easier on the eyes than any of them. Cable news is down in numbers altogether this year, and that trend is probably not going to reverse itself. With more and more people cutting the cord, turning to independent media outlets, and using the Internet for their news, cable in general is probably not long for this world. In the meantime, CNN and MSNBC had better think up a new strategy. “Be less ridiculous” might be a good place to start.

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        2. Joe T April 7, 2015

          There aren’t a whole ton of surprises here — conservative talkers are on the far right, while most mainstream media outlets have a slightly left-of-center audience — but there are a few interesting takeaways here:

          1) The most-preferred media outlets of liberals, according to Pew’s study, are the New Yorker and Slate.

          2) Fox News’s viewership is pretty moderate compared to the Hannitys, Limbaughs, Becks and Breitbarts. This is probably because Fox’s audience is just so large that it couldn’t be relegated to an extreme end of the chart. But even liberals watch Fox.

          3) The broadcast stations (NBC, CBS, ABC) and online news sites like Yahoo and Google have a more middle-of-the-road audience than other mainstream media outlets. People who read BuzzFeed, Politico, The Washington Post and The New York Times all tend to be more liberal.

          4) MSNBC, despite its reputation as the most liberal cable news network, has a more moderate audience than the four publications mentioned above — and only a slightly more liberal audience than CNN.

          5) About half of the 32 outlets have an audience that pretty clearly leans to the left, while seven have audiences that lean conservative. The rest (including all the broadcast networks) are somewhere near the middle.

          That, more than anything else, is a testament to Fox’s domination on the political right and American conservatives’ distrust of other mainstream media outlets.

          Aaron Blake covers national politics and writes regularly for The Fix.

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          1. jakenhyde April 7, 2015

            Joe…..I’m wondering if some day you might write something that actually makes sense?

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          2. Joe T April 7, 2015

            How about U….and the horse you rode in on……..

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          3. jakenhyde April 7, 2015

            Real classy guy Joe. Typical republican response. No wonder you’re single.

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          4. Joe T April 7, 2015

            Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 20:16
            Input Info Apology

            Please accept our apology, posted in error
            gustav

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          5. Joe T April 7, 2015

            Below is a list of Obama’s documented lies so far with the most recent lies first. If you see we are missing a documented lie Submit the lie here.

            Lies During the Sixth Year

            “We’ve got close to 7 million Americans who have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion.”

            Poltifact.com

            (IRS) “Not a even smidgen of corruption”

            Foxnews.com

            “Keystone pipeline would mean maybe 2,000 jobs”

            Poltifact.com

            Lies During the Fifth Year

            “We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas.”

            Politifact.com

            “If you like your health insurance plan, you can keep it”

            Washingtonpost.com

            “The NSA is not abusing its power”

            Washingtonpost.com

            “I said benghazi was a terrorist attack from the beginning.”

            Lubbockonline.com

            “the foreign intelligence Surveillance court is transparent.”

            Politifact.com

            “First of all, I didn’t set a red line,” said Obama. “The world set a red line.”

            Weeklystandard.com

            nbcnews

            Lies During Fourth Year

            “The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”

            Politifact.com

            “Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”

            Politifact.com

            “Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”

            Politifact.com

            “Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”

            Spero News

            “We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”

            cbsnews.com

            Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations

            State Department

            “Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”

            Politifact.com

            “Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”

            politifact.com

            Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”

            politifact.com

            “I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”

            abcnews.com

            Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.

            Factcheck.org

            My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.

            Factcheck.org

            “I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”

            House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)

            The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.

            Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors

            “You Didn’t Build that”

            A few examples

            Lies During Third Year

            I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.

            Youtube

            In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.

            http://www.breitbart.com

            I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever

            Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza

            Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week

            Examiner

            “Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”

            Like Raising taxes?

            Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz

            He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.

            GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing

            Dems Rejected Jobs Bill

            You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem

            Gallup Poll: Only 69%

            These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.

            Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama

            Jobs Bill Paid for

            Seems not so much Paid for

            Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance

            Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11

            I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.

            American.com

            USA producing more oil than ever before

            Petroleum Insights

            Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”

            Department of Homeland Security says 5%

            Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.

            National Taxpayers Union

            Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.

            Cnn Interview

            Lies During Second Year

            Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.

            nationalreview.com

            No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law

            Obama Lies to Keep Czars

            No “boots” on the ground Libya

            Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground

            Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.

            Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

            All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber

            Obama Memo

            I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops

            Obama’s Schedule

            The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.

            Campaign and Presidency

            If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it

            TownHall

            “Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”

            U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

            ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax

            Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

            We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.

            Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010

            Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.

            Arizona Immigration Law

            Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.

            Claims never documented

            The Health Care Package will pay for itself

            Time

            Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.

            Hmm Immigration?

            We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care

            Democratic Debate Lies

            Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas

            Video Proof

            I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”

            Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.

            I got the Message from Massachusetts

            Daily Bail

            Lies During First Year

            We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’

            AP fact Checker

            Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.

            AP fact Checker

            Collective salvation

            Obama calls himself a Christian

            I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

            Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009

            Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term

            Associated Press Video

            Health Care deals will be covered on C-span

            Obama Lies

            As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide

            ABC

            Recovery Act will save or create jobs

            ABC News

            Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.

            Obama Lies

            No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus

            CNN

            happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan

            Specator.Org

            We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.

            Obama Lies

            I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.

            NPR

            Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year

            Council on Foreign Relations.

            Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.

            Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes

            List of Tax Promise Violations

            2008 Campaign Lies

            Bypassing congress unconstitutional; I intend to reverse when I am president

            Vimeo

            I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain

            Youtube

            No more wiretapping of citizens

            Youtube

            Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

            News Busters

            I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps

            United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

            Obama campaign would accept public funding

            ABC

            Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr

            A Socialist

            Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.

            Mounting Heath Care Lies

            Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical

            Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

            Would have the most transparent administration in History

            Cato Institute

            We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.

            Boston Globe

            I have visited all 57 states.

            Snopes

            I’ll get rid of earmarks

            Source: Any bill passed during presidency

            When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.

            Campaign Speech

            My father served in World War II.

            The Videos and the Facts

            Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009

            News Video

            Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes

            YouTube

            Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.

            He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.

            Present Votes Are Common In Illinois

            NPR

            I Won Michigan

            Huffington Post

            I won Nevada

            The Nation

            I don’t Have Lobbyists

            US News

            My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad

            Crooks and Liars

            I Have Always Been Against Iraq

            Washington Post

            My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country

            CNN

            Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

            Obama Campaign Video

            I Barely Know Rezko

            Sun Times

            My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church

            ABC News

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          6. Joe T April 9, 2015

            News alert not to be missed for obama lovers

            https://youtu.be/gvuulZPbfBg

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  6. earlwatters February 12, 2015

    he learns from his teacher obama

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    1. FT66 February 12, 2015

      In which class the lessons were carried? Can you please enlighten us on this?????

      Reply
      1. Joe T February 12, 2015

        Top Commenter reprint

        he lies so much he cant even remember his lies, an than he lies about his lies,, he would know the truth if it slapped him in the face,his word doesnt mean a thing.. and i wonder if he thinks people believe any thing he says.he cant tell the truth for lying,, and when he gets up there to speak he doesnt know what he is talking about,, he is a queer and that thing he calls a wife well it is a he,, isnt that something that we have a queer for a president,, and we have a queer for the first lady, ,,you just cant make this stuff up,

        Reply · · 15 · about an hour ago

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        1. FT66 February 12, 2015

          Oh! please, we have done our job already. It is all about 2016. It is all about to get rid of Brian Williams and Jon Stewart who has somehow voluntarily to leave the job. Remember Jon Stewart said he was scared of his job that time when Charles Hebdo in Paris was killed. Why him only and not other comedians. We got the hint then Joe!

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          1. JoyceD February 12, 2015

            You do realize that CHARLIE HEBDO is a publication and not a person?

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          2. Joe T February 12, 2015

            NO the liberals don’t.

            Reply
          3. FT66 February 12, 2015

            Please tell us those who have been claiming: “I am CHARLIE HEBDO”,were they claiming they were the publication?

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          4. JoyceD February 13, 2015

            Oh please. It means something entirely different en français and is an expression of solidarity w/the spirit of the publication AND freedom of the press. Wish we had some French people commenting here to explain it better.

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    2. nana4gj February 12, 2015

      You are such a pitiful fool.

      “KJV Dictionary Definition: fool. fool. FOOL, n. Heb. 1. One who is destitute of reason, or the common powers of understanding; an idiot. ”
      Some persons are born; others are made; some choose it”…

      Other definitions include that of “court jester”…..we have a lot of those, too.

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      1. idamag February 12, 2015

        Actually court jesters were supposed to be amusing. The hateful prattle from the brains that rattle is not amusing.

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  7. Lelando February 12, 2015

    My first thought echoed some of the other commenters here. I don’t know about NBC’s reaction yet, time will tell, but what has transpired certainly demonstrates how much people want and expect more out of NBC (and most other networks) than they expect from Fox News, or talking heads like Limbaugh, for that matter. People tune in Fox for the sensationalism and liberal bashing, not really caring whether it’s the truth or not. It’s too bad because I believe this ignorance and gullibility have directly led to much of the political gridlock the country has suffered for the last 7 or so years.

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  8. Joe T February 12, 2015

    President Obama deceives again. 2015

    President Obama publicly opposed same-sex marriages for political gain during the 2008 presidential campaign, his former political strategist says in a new book.

    David Axelrod said that he and other political strategists advised him to say that he only supported civil unions, not full gay marriage rights, according to excerpts of his new book obtained by Time magazine

    White House press secretary Josh Earnest said he would not “disagree or quibble” with Axelrod’s account of events.

    But Earnest also said Obama had chosen to take tough political stands on the issue of gay rights, including announcing his support for gay marriage before the 2012 election

    “The president was champing at the bit to announce his support for the right of gay and lesbian couples to wed — and having watched him struggle with this issue for years, I was ready, too,” Axelrod said.

    Obama apparently struggled with the task, complaining to Axelrod that he was “just not very good at bullshitting” after a campaign event where he stopped short of endorsing gay marriage. The Hill

    Justin Sink 10 hrs ago Feb 10 2015

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker February 12, 2015

      Oh give it up already. Your posts are sickening. You can’t prove a single word you write. You’re as bad as Brian Williams. Don’t you thugs of the control freak world ever stop trying to ram your control down everyone else’s throats. You needed a good kick in your butt when you were a kid to set your maniacal brain straight.

      Obama, Obama, Obama, Is blaming everything on Obama your pathetic neurotic way of hoping you’ll erase the jackass you put in office 8 years? You are one sick pup.

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      1. Louis Allen February 13, 2015

        Oh give it up already. Your posts are sickening. You can’t prove a single word you write. You’re as bad as Brian Williams. Don’t you thugs of the control freak world ever stop trying to ram your control down everyone else’s throats. You needed a good kick in your butt when you were a kid to set your maniacal brain straight.

        Bush, Bush, Bush, Is blaming everything on Bush your pathetic neurotic way of hoping you’ll erase the jackass you put in office 8 years (2009-2017)? You are one
        sick pup.

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        1. joe schmo February 14, 2015

          Hasn’t that whole Bush and Racist thing gotten old? She’s like a broken record that is stuck on skip…

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      2. joe schmo February 14, 2015

        Huh! Isn’t it your side with all the lunatics with little to no integrity in media?

        ‘You remind us of a duck.’ ‘Can you quack for us.’ I think you know who I am pertaining to….LOLLOL…are you kidding right now. WOW and weird. That describes the Left in a few short statements.

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    2. Carolyn1520 February 12, 2015

      WMDs.

      Reply
      1. Joe T February 12, 2015

        Ghostwriter communique’
        parallel time 13:41
        compliments of Gustav K

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    3. nana4gj February 12, 2015

      No matter what happens, where it happens, how it happens, there are some who must tie it to “Obama” who is used as the convenient Go Too for all things ill in the world.

      I wonder if, when these people get speeding tickets, diarrhea, or the flu, or sneeze or lose a friend or are not invited to a neat event, or burn their toast in the morning, they put that on Obama, too. It is soooo old and stagnant and a big turn off because it raises questions as to the objective powers of their logic and reasoning.

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      1. Joe T February 12, 2015

        Ghostwriter communique’
        parallel time 13:52

        There’s a devout Muslim in the office of the United States of America Presidency, by deception and assistance from others like minded in the USA govt; therefore,

        if any red blooded American denies this they are either insane or part of the problem.

        By his own daily words and deleterious acts is the proof verified daily. Once a Muslim ALWAYS a Muslim. Period.

        A MUSLIM BELIEVES ALL OF THE KORAN OR THEY ARE NOT A MUSLIM.THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE FOR THEM TO CLAIM TO BE A FOLLOWER OF THE KORAN.

        IF THEY (Muslins) believe the Qur’an/Koran……and you do NOT……you should be killed or dead as for as they are concerned. 4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.3.85: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers…..from the Qur’an!

        KEEP BELIEVING THEY ARE PEACEFUL…..8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels:

        I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off (behead) their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

        The Qur’an was an oral text throughout the lifetime of Muhammad; it was also a fluid text. The complete text resided only in the memories of Muhammad and his followers. As he added verses and reorganized the text, his followers would rememorize the text in the light of the additions or edits. This means that the Qur’an was a living text during the lifetime of Muhammad. Certain verses revealed to Muhammad were later repudiated by him as “satanic” verses revealed not by Gabriel but by Satan. These verses were expunged from the text that so many had memorized.

        It’s plain to see Barack Hussein Obama has loyalties to this ideology that he can’t hide. It’s self-evident for many reasons; one of which is that he clearly avoids (refuses) to call the terrorists by their identity of followers of Islamic teachings, proven by the Qur’an (Koran) to be VIOLENT. For Manchurian* Candidate substitute the word Muslim.* This is occurring world wide at a rapid rate, due to verbiage changes by current covert leaders.

        IF YOU CLAIM TO BE A MUSLIM…..KORAN commands to kill infidels:

        Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98

        On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161

        Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191

        Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39

        Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216

        (different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

        ….. martyrs…. Enter heaven – Surah 3:140-43

        If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. – 3:157-8

        You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. – Surah 3:169-71

        Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. – Surah 4:74

        Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. – 4:76

        But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. – 4:89

        Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. – 5:14

        O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54

        Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme – 8:39

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        1. nana4gj February 12, 2015

          I really hope you are getting the help you need and, if not, that the appropriate ones are monitoring your every move.

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          1. Joe T February 12, 2015

            Norman

            December 2, 2014 at 9:34 am — Log in to Reply

            Chris Rock sees POTUS Obama through the eyes of one that sees him as a black Messiah and I see him as a white man as a black devil. We have to competing views. Mine is one where I expect a person to be a leader of all the people not a racist egotistical communist. I might change that to an egotistical Muslim but both come with the same connotations.

            The facts are the facts and Obama is the liar of the century. The racist in him is quite evident from his early childhood his white Grandma did not trust black men. Therefore, I guess his racism started at him. Chris Rock you speak only for you not me. Obama is most wicked deceitful person that has sat in the Oval Office the next closest was Bill Clinton. The Republicans pulled his chestnuts out of the fire more than once. Bill Clinton the first black President and I would have to agree with him taking advantage of a subordinate with her under his desk with his pants down around his knees.

            Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/comedian-chris-rock-contends-obama-elected-thanks-white-progress/#XMGrhP41I0gHAtgC.99

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          2. idamag February 12, 2015

            Now, as one poster above pointed out, you can see why we have so many dipped-ins in Congress.

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          3. Joe T February 13, 2015

            I am one of the appropriate ones watching.
            A word to the wise is sufficient.
            Truth is better than a lie.
            Better to be informed than ignorant.
            Truth always prevails in the end.
            Veritas!

            best regards, Joe T

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        2. nana4gj February 23, 2015

          Some of what you say has been implied by those who claim to be Christian, ie, if you do not believe as I do, you deserve ……whatever…..but it never sounds very good. Those kinds of people use the word/religion, Muslim, as a slur, an insult, something of which to feel guilty, as if every Muslim has done something for which they should be indicted.

          That negates anything you have to say because you sound just like what you describe others of.

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          1. Joe T February 23, 2015

            The Antichrist Spirit Of Islam

            The religion of Islam, more than any other religion, philosophy, or belief system, fulfills the description of the antichrist spirit. The religion of Islam makes it one of its highest priorities to very specifically deny all of the above points regarding Jesus and His relationship to the Father. In fact, it can very fairly be said that Islam literally is a direct polemical response against the above essential Christian doctrines. Regarding the above points however, Muslims will be quick to argue that Islam teaches that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. But this is really just trickery. While it is true that Islam does retain the title of Messiah for Jesus, when one asks a Muslim to define what the title “Messiah” actually means in Islam, the definitions given are always hollow and fall entirely short of containing any truly messianic substance. In Islam, Jesus is merely another prophet in a very long line of prophets. Biblically speaking however, the role of the Messiah, among other things, also entails being a Divine Priestly Savior, a Deliverer and the King of the Jews. As we saw in the earlier chapters about the Muslim Jesus, rather than being a Messiah that saves or delivers Israel and all of his faithful followers in any way, in the Islamic traditions, Jesus instead returns to lead Israel’s enemies against her in battle and to kill or convert all Jews and Christians. This would be the equivalent of calling Adolph Hitler, rather than Moses, Israel’s deliverer. For now, we see that the apostle John informs us that just before the final hour, a very specific “spirit” will dominate the earth. This spirit will deny many of the essential biblical doctrines regarding who Jesus is and what He came to do. Islam epitomizes this spirit perfectly.

            Tawhid and Shirk

            In order to properly understand the antichrist spirit of Islam, there are two doctrines that must first be understood. The first is called Tawhid. It is the most essential belief in Islam. Tawhid refers to the belief in the absolute oneness of God. Islam adheres to the strictest form of unitarian monotheism possible. In Islam, God is utterly alone. But in order to understand tawhid, one must understand that it is more than just a doctrine. In Islam, belief in tawhid is an absolute commandment. And if adherance to tawhid is the highest and most important commandment in Islam, then the greatest sin is called Shirk. Shirk is the opposite of tawhid. It is in essence, idolatry. From the “Invitation to Islam” newsletter published by a Muslim group from Toronto, we read a very telling statement, which helps us to understand exactly how shirk is viewed by Muslims:

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          2. nana4gj February 24, 2015

            I can only speak from my limited experience of having lived and worked in an Islamic theocracy, Saudi Arabia, for two and a half years following the first Gulf War.

            As a Christian, a Catholic, I, along with other ex-pats there, were given three school auditoriums and a priest and two ministers, with which to exercise our respective faiths on the Sabbath, ie, Saturdays, and were treated with respect and diffidence on our Christian holidays as well, as long as we did not attempt to preach and convert Muslims. I passed through customs inspections on my first entry into the Kingdom, where every bag I had was emptied and searched and when my Rosary, small statue of St. Anthony, and my Missal and prayer books were discovered, they were reverently placed back into my suitcase.

            Oddly, perhaps, my own faith was strengthened, living as a Christian, a Catholic, in this Islamic Kingdom because the freedom to exercise my faith there became something to cherish; worshiping at Mass with people from so many different countries was powerful; and stopping three times a day when the call to prayers required everyone to pause, gave me opportunity to offer my own prayers. I observed Lent and I tried to observe Ramadan, as well, because, there is only one God, whether he is called God, Yaweh, or Allah, and whether you call them charitable works, mitzvas, or…I forget what the Muslims call their aid to fellow human beings….they all pretty much teach what we understand Christianity teaches, and, I add, they all have histories of not very pretty things done in the name of their religions. All of them can be distorted and exploited to achieve nefarious goals that have nothing to do with what their God, Yaweh, or Allah teaches.

            I agree with the President on that because it is difficult not to agree when it is recorded in history.

            In fact, I first learned about it and heard about it not from the President but from the nuns in Catholic schools who taught me my history and my religion.

            I would urge care in dismissing any religion or looking only for what is “bad”, lest you begin to sound the same as those you denigrate.

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          3. dpaano February 25, 2015

            Nana….it’s kind of like being called a “Jew.” Judism is a religion NOT a race of people. The race of people who practice Judism are generally from Israel and are Israelites, not Jews. The same goes for Muslims…..as I said above, some Muslims may be terrorists but not all terrorists are always Muslims. There are many people who say they are Christian, but there are MANY different types of Christians; i.e., Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, etc. The conservative right wing puts a bad name on Christianity to most of us who ARE Christians. Not all Christians believe as the right-wing evangelicals do….we aren’t that unthinking and uncaring to the people of the world around us!

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      2. Joe T February 23, 2015

        JUST click on link enjoy
        http://hawthornephoto.com/walk.htm

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        1. nana4gj February 23, 2015

          Be that as it may, none of those landmarks, or practices of reliance on God, says whose God they mean. All of the major religions mentioned by the President in those clips, rely on and believe in “God”. He may have different names, even when God walked the earth as Jesus, He had different names, Yaweh, for one.
          noun
          1.
          (in Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being, synonyms:the Lord, the Almighty, the Creator, the Maker, the Godhead; More
          2.
          (in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.”a moon god”
          synonyms:deity, goddess, divine being, celestial being, divinity, immortal, avatar
          “sacrifices to appease the gods”

          Meriam Webster:
          God : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being that is worshipped especially by Christians, Jews, and Muslims as the one who created and rules the universe
          : a spirit or being that has great power, strength, knowledge, etc., and that can affect nature and the lives of people : one of various spirits or beings worshipped in some religions
          : a person and especially a man who is greatly loved or admired

          b Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind

          One religion’s “God” is no better than another’s.

          The snag comes when people, human beings, begin to think they have cornered the market on God, religion, and even, on what is “American”.

          Whether or not the President is Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish, Hindu, or whatever, I look to social policies and even the manner in which he/she considers the use of war, to determine if that President believes in a moral authority that is greater than human, without the frailities and egotism of humans, such as judging another’s faith and whether it is pure enough, good enough, or legitimate enough.

          This President has done nothing to deny the existence of God, nor his or our reliance upon God, by any Name, or by whatever path we follow to God.

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  9. nana4gj February 12, 2015

    “It is ironic, to put it very mildly, that more than a decade after the Iraq invasion, which resulted from official and journalistic deceptions on a vast scale, the only individual deemed worthy of punishment is a TV newsman who inflated a war story on a talk show. And it is irritating, too, that so many of the NBC anchor’s harshest critics are heard on Fox News Channel, where lying is a way of life, as Leonard Pitts, Jr., noted recently.”

    It doesn’t help to compare Williams and/or NBC to Fox. We watch Williams and NBC instead of Fox because we expect and trust a different standard of journalism. While I feel compassion and empathy for Williams, and disappointment, I hate to admit that I am not surprised. I have felt for some time now that journalism is not what it used to be, anywhere, by just about everyone in the business, note, I said “business”, not “profession”.

    It’s hard to get a straight story anywhere, the facts and just the facts, told as directly and as honestly as they really are, without commentary, judgment, and the personal feelings of the one charged with “reporting” them.

    In addition to the immaturity of today’s journalists, who seem obsessed with celebrity, no matter their chronological ages or tenure in the “business”, they are all bent on being 10 times cuter than the one sitting next to them and they all have to have someone sitting next to them to make it a “really big show” and as entertaining as hell. We can hardly think or react on our own to the “news” as reported because we are overwhelmed with the reaction of the “journalists” to the news, screaming, whining, asking dumb questions because they know no history, et al. It all began with the “How do you feeeellll?” when a person being interviewed 1 hour after a horrific tragedy was interviewed by a blond hot babe with a mic and camera or her male counterpart with whatever costume the horrific required to demonstrate his prowess. It has gone downhill since.

    This is not offered as an excuse or a rationale for Brian Williams. It is my opinion and he is no better or no worse than anyone else; his network no better or no worse than any other; he just got caught, big time. You know what they say, “The bigger you are, the harder you fall”. Anyhow, I hear he was wanting to make it official and leave the “business” of journalism and get his own late night talk show; at least he was honest about where his “talents” might take him since he practiced it in his day job, like all the rest.

    We have no more Walter Cronkites, and, alas, we have no more Bob Simons. We are the poorer for it. Bob Simon was the last of the Professionals. He practiced his profession with dedication, commitment, integrity, and, while he covered a variety of issues, from war zones to symphonies in foreign countries made possible from the manufacture of instruments out of scrap metal, his reporting grabbed us and held us and we always learned something. As well respected as Bob Simon and Walter Cronkite were and are, we could never refer to them as “celebrities”. They were Journalists, with a capital “J”.

    PS: Maybe if we had real Journalists, that Iraq war would not have been “waged on deceptions” of a vast scale, you think?

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  10. Eleanore Whitaker February 12, 2015

    Joe T. is one of those “guys” who can’t admit when he’s wrong, much less accept truth and facts. To Joe T, ONLY HE knows facts and truth. Read his posts and you’ll be ready for the booby hatch pretty quick.

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    1. Joe T February 12, 2015

      President Obama’s State of the Union address was filled with memorable rhetoric from a politician who has long proven his ability to deliver a slick speech, but much of what he said bore little resemblance to the truth. Sounding more like a candidate for office than the leader of the free world, Obama littered his address with bold statements intended to make Americans believe he had single-handedly brought us back from the brink of disaster. Unfortunately, many of those statements were categorically false, and many others were lies of omission. For a president who has become known for sneaky deception, his 2015 SOTU may go down as a collection of his worst fables. – See more at: http://unfilteredpatriot.com/obama-litters-state-of-the-union-address-with-lies/#sthash.SDjFT7cM.dpuf

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    2. Joe T February 12, 2015

      ditto

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      1. oldtack February 12, 2015

        Joe T.
        I made a nasty remark about you and I could’t edit it. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. We may differ in many respects but that is no reason to denigrate. This is a forum – not a place for this stuff. Just discussion on the topic. I apologize for my post. Have a good Day

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          It’s OK brother in arms……….sticks and stones etc

          The world in the past 10+/- years has become increasingly chaotic and hostile to society.

          Take the Muslims per se’, human just like us, but living like humans did 2000 years ago, when the sword and spear was the armament of the day.

          I believe in GOD and I believe this is more of a spiritual situation that is occurring in our life times, don’t you?

          It is written in the Koran to kill all unbelievers (infidels) people like (maybe) us who are not Muslim or following the teaching of Islam.

          It’s reported daily 24/7 on the news wires and cable news of President Obama favoring the Muslims and the Islamic way of life, he was mainly born and raised in that manner, a fact.

          I could digress further, but I know you understand logical reality of the times we are living in

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          1. oldtack February 13, 2015

            Well stated Joe T.

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          2. dpaano February 25, 2015

            What most of the conservatives don’t understand is that not ALL Muslims are terrorists and not ALL terrorists are Muslims! There is a BIG difference, but they don’t seem to see it!

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          3. Joe T February 25, 2015

            Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 21:13
            read and rip.

            A MUSLIM BELIEVES THIS OR THEY ARE NOT A MUSLIM……THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!

            IF THEY (Muslims) believe the Islamic printed Qur’an/Koran……and you do NOT……you should be killed or dead as for as they are concerned. 4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.3.85:

            And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
            (from the Qur’an/Koran!)

            KEEP BELIEVING THEY ARE PEACEFUL…..

            8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels:
            I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off (behead) their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

            The Qur’an was an oral text throughout the lifetime of Muhammad; it was also a fluid text. The complete text resided only in the memories of Muhammad and his followers. As he added verses and reorganized the text, his followers would rememorize the text in the light of the additions or edits. This means that the Qur’an was a living text during the lifetime of Muhammad. Certain verses revealed to Muhammad were later repudiated by him as “satanic” verses revealed not by Gabriel but by Satan. These verses were expunged from the text that so many had memorized.

            (It’s plain to see Barack Hussein Obama has loyalties to this ideology that he can’t hide. It’s self-evident for many reasons; one of which is that he clearly avoids (refuses) to call the terrorists by their identity of followers of Islamic teachings, proven by the Qur’an (Koran) to be VIOLENT. For Manchurian* Candidate substitute the word Muslim.* This is occurring world wide at a rapid rate, due to verbiage changes by current covert leaders.)

            Whether a Conservative or Liberal the Islamic teaching of the Koran does not differentiate!
            Veritas.

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          4. Joe T March 2, 2015

            A Paradoxical conundrum:

            Everything GOD does is good, even if it’s bad; hence POTUS Obama;

            An enigma by GOD.

            Faith in GOD is the supreme test of humanity.

            Veritas!

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        2. Joe T February 12, 2015

          PS. you have more brains and class than most…thanks for your dignity and integrity of thought.
          best, Joe T

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        3. Joe T February 12, 2015

          PS: I am of Prussian and Irish heritage.
          6’3″ 228#’s ex-football player, well educated in 2 disciplines…….truth will prevail always.
          best, Joe T

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    3. jakenhyde February 12, 2015

      @Eleanore…..what you’re saying is that he’s a republican.

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      1. Joe T February 12, 2015

        Let the liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, it only hastens the demise of the liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of misery, no hope, no change and divided.

        February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

        As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery

        The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

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        1. jakenhyde February 13, 2015

          @Joe T……I’ll say one positive thing for you Joe, you’re very good at copy and paste.

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          1. Joe T February 13, 2015

            Thanks Jake….well you wouldn’t expect me to memorize the daily news occurrences 24/7 regarding what is affecting everyone’s daily life

            And the news reported is gathered from diverse sources, some factually, some opinionated, but
            all is necessary to analyze and sift it through the strainer of truth. Words and actions substantiates the reality of a person’s intentions, especially if one is a govt employee, official or the POTUS.

            Currently the demeanor of the WH is “YOLO”….
            sort of the decorum of being a clown by clowning around. The world is a serious place to live in and raise a family etc. for most everyone. Senior citizens are in a precarious position with society rapidly changing, and some changes are very challenging and unnecessary and some changes are oppressive in content and nature.

            WWI, WWII, who needs WWIII…anyone?

            Sorry for digressing…but thr USA is gonna be here to stay or else. Posterity is sacred to life.
            best regards, Joe T

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    4. oldtack February 12, 2015

      look at the sloping forehead, the wide spread hooded eyes, the oversize nose and the thick lips with a rather small chin -Not much there.

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      1. idamag February 12, 2015

        And my horse friends say never trust a horse that has eyes close together. His eyes are pretty close together.

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        1. Joe T February 12, 2015

          At least I can discern pass the weeds of confusion the Liberals portray in the forest of prevarications from
          Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama aka the
          “current” President of the great USA.
          best regards, Joe T

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker February 14, 2015

            And therein lies the problem with righties…you’re all either dry drunks, boozers or drug addicts. That’s why you are so full of self-hatred. You know you can’t pass a bottle of booze without drowning in it.

            This is why half of the GOP men are non-functioning males. That red nose on Boehner, McConnell and Cornyn fools no one. That’s the Stars and Bars version of their red flag they get from soaking in alcohol.

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    5. Louis Allen February 13, 2015

      Eleanore (really Lenore) is one of those “gals” who can’t admit when she’s wrong, much less
      accept truth and facts. To Lenore, ONLY SHE knows facts and truth. Read
      her posts and you’ll be ready for the booby hatch pretty quick.

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  11. jakenhyde February 12, 2015

    Joe T appears to be a perfect example of how we got so many republican nut cases elected to state and federal office. If there are a lot of voters out there with his mentality, we’re in deep doo doo.

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    1. idamag February 12, 2015

      I never pay any attention to the nut job Joe-T. If I wanted to listen to an A-hole, I’d pass gas.

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      1. Joe T February 12, 2015

        Or look in the mirror every morning…ciao bro

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    2. Joe T February 12, 2015

      The emergence of the tea party movement and its influence in Congress has brought to the fore political values that are more conservative than those of the average voter. But polarization is not a one-way street. While Republicans have become more conservative, Democrats have grown more liberal.Feb 28, 2014
      Are the Democrats getting too liberal? – The Washington Post
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/…democrats…liberal/…/c0d...
      The Washington Post

      best regards, Joe T
      PS: I base my lifestyle on ethics, morals and integrity…
      it called character demeanor sans deception.

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  12. jakenhyde February 12, 2015

    I certainly hope Joe T doesn’t own any guns.

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    1. FT66 February 12, 2015

      Anyone knows where Joe lives. He looks very scary on the picture, let alone what he writes on this web.

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      1. Joe T February 12, 2015

        W. VA.

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      2. Joe T February 26, 2015

        I’m moving in your neighborhood……

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    2. idamag February 12, 2015

      I just enlarged joe-t’s avatar. You are right. He looks like he sounds.

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    3. Joe T February 12, 2015

      I do brother…thanks for inquiring, ciao bro

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      1. jakenhyde February 13, 2015

        @Joe….trust me, Joe, I’m not your brother. I wouldn’t have anything to do with a nut case like you. If you tried to come onto my property, I’d call the sheriff and have you arrested for trespassing.

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  13. Richard Fairfield February 12, 2015

    Suspending Brian Williams is stupid. Let him explain on air if an apology is needed and move on. The exposure is punishment enough. Then, in the future, if he hasn’t learned his lesson, he can permanently retire.

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    1. stevie1910 February 12, 2015

      While I am going through withdrawals I think Brian needs the time to get back on track.

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    2. angelsinca February 13, 2015

      It was the apology riddled with lies that got him canned.

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    3. Jerseysmelltours March 7, 2015

      Mr. William’s was wrong on several items and never made amends on the errors? In his defense the “New’s” business has under gone deep and troubling changes in the last few year’s where the old day’s it was New’s first and foremost ? Now even the “New’s” is glitzy, TMZ, show biz kind of productions and maybe this guy got caught-up in that side os it with these lies?

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  14. GraceAdams830 February 12, 2015

    Right after 9/11/2001, we could have saved more American lives by putting our efforts into improving American health care than by going to war against Iraq. Iraq wasn’t even an appropriate target. Al Qaeda was more Saudi than Iraqi.

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    1. Jerseysmelltours February 13, 2015

      GraceAdams830 Very right you are and God I only wish we could get this single message across to the jerks in DC? We invade Afghanistan with no real reason and attack and kill a people who had no hand in anything done to our nation How can we “WIN” that war? We are a rotten bad guy why don’t we stop acting the part and go back to being a righteous nation taking care of our own : Schools, seniors, health care taxes? Let’s stop being shoot first ask no questions later?

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      1. GraceAdams830 February 17, 2015

        Some suspect we declared war on Iraq because we coveted their oil. We would do much better to fund a crash program to develop a sustainable substitute for oil, and hire our MIC firms to make as much as possible of equipment needed for a national smart electric grid with energy storage and harness wind and solar, so we can get off fossil fuel.

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        1. dpaano February 25, 2015

          Waaay too logical for Bush Jr. to figure out, plus he had the warmongers, Cheney and Rumsfield, pulling his puppet strings!!! I don’t think he had an original thought the entire time he was president!

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      2. dpaano February 25, 2015

        Jersey….when our illustrious ex-president decided to invade Iraq, I made a valid observation. If you’re invading a country to bring them “democracy,” you may want to realize that the country has been under basically a plutocracy for centuries and have NO concept of democracy. You can’t change a dog’s spots! It was a ridiculous war that didn’t need to be fought, and the ONLY reason it was fought was because Bush Jr. wanted to get back at Sadaam for “dissing” his father! How many or our men and women died to feed his ego?

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        1. Jerseysmelltours March 5, 2015

          Totally agree with you 100% and I think your opinion is 100% historical fact9it might take a few decades for that fact to reach mainstream acceptance)nice to know there are a few folks out there not willing to be sheep?

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          1. dpaano March 6, 2015

            Yes, I have to agree. It’s unfortunate that no one figured this out when this stupid war began. Apparently, Cheney and Rumsfield were only interested in lining their own pockets and didn’t care about the number of lives lost, both military AND civilian, in a country that we never had a reason to invade in the first place! Saudi Arabia is the country that I think we needed to go after (and I STILL feel that way). They were and continue to be the ones fueling the terrorists, and we still kowtow to them much like the Bush’s did in the past! Of course, there’s the question of their oil….which would seem to show us that we need to stop being so dependent on imported oil and figure out better ways to run our country!! Hang in there, Jersey, one of these days the government will report the truth about Bush and his puppet masters!

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          2. Jerseysmelltours March 7, 2015

            As the catch phase from the film “All the President’s Men” “follow the money” was such a true and viable realization on how to find the convoluted truth out of DC’s swampy corrupt society it still hold’s it’s simple but deeply true message: “Follow the money” and all of “W’s” action’s from his eight years in the WH are understandable? Money for the uber-rich and death and horrible wounds and broken families for the working class? Not many 1% uber-wealthy youngster’s serving in the military?

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          3. Joe T March 8, 2015

            dpanno and Jersey…
            Thanks for reminding us of these wartime situations…congrats…..Point taken…to this day denials etc and confusion still exists.

            Here’s a thought that includes POTUS Obamama………………..in the very near future, whereas, the USA ACCIDENTALLY NUKES the ENTIRE Middle East, in toto…………….hey… mistakes happens how do you think the kids got here…… So we have a couple of B-1 bombers on a deep secret reconnaissance mission (loaded with multiple H- bombs) crash in the (heart) of the Middle East and the Middle East becomes a beautitul Sea of Glass…….it’s the only logical answer to end thie bullshit overseas and in the world..period.

            The Brookings Institute, CIA. NSA. DEA, NRA and GOD would definitely, succinctly, surely, undoubtedly , truthfully emphatically, happily, categorically and positively APPROVE…and Obama could be on a B-1 Bomber as an observer..final executive act for him…Praise GOD…he’ll finally be in Hollywood Heaven with all his virgins……..yeah right on.
            Nike solgan…just do it. Some elite military would readily volunteer. Peace would then reign supreme in the entire F*king world, bar no one to complain , NOT even the liberal Democrats. Hoorah!

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  15. stevie1910 February 12, 2015

    Sean Hannity wants Brian Willliam’s head on a stick. Methinks that whinny little something or other should sit down and shut up.

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    1. oldtack February 12, 2015

      And we all know what Sean is.

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  16. Jill Swanson February 12, 2015

    If Brian goes, I go, as will many of my friends and acquaintances. So sponsors, take note. Everyone tells lies now and then, and if they say they don’t, they’re lying. NBC is the lamest news as well as programming, with the exception of Nightly News with Brian Williams. I wouldn’t watch FOX news if someone paid me. So bring Brian back. He’s already acknowledged it and apologized. Get over it.

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    1. Jerseysmelltours February 13, 2015

      Ms Swanson So long sister!

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  17. SoulSunny February 13, 2015

    So the biggest liar about the war gets to paint pictures of his father , and his sidekick still pops up on TV from time to time being a grumpy old man who stills spews hate and ignorance , makes sense to me

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  18. Barabbus February 13, 2015

    When somebody writes that a lousy 6 month suspension from a job that pays you 10 million a year is akin to “Capital punishment”, or uses imagery like “the eager mob of executioners now swinging the ax with such gusto”, when in reality we’re talking about somebody who’s actually going to make 5 million dollars this year and have 6 months off while doing it, it demands you take a closer look at the nut who’s writing it. Make that a duplicitous nut, if he is also claiming: “If anything, Williams is resolutely nonpartisan…” Sure.
    The very reason Joe took the time to write this is because Williams is in fact, another hyper-partisan such as himself. Who was in a key position to further his partisanship, cloaked as objectivity.
    Joe’s attempts to claim otherwise just gives one a glimpse into the depths of deception that liberals have become accustomed to getting away with. Exhibit A: Brian Williams himself.
    It explains why he’s in the pickle he is, and it explains why Joe here thinks he can write the tripe he writes. Just got a little too accustomed to getting away with it is all. Good riddance to another dishonest deceiver.

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  19. Jerseysmelltours February 13, 2015

    I say fire Mr. Williams and fire the turd who put his name on this hot-mess! The man’s sole purpose is to be seen/believed to be honest and truthful about the news and he makes crazy cash doing that simple job, yet he lies about his macho self! Fire him NOW! Have the author of this BS drawn and quartered! PS Mr. Williams gave the world that horrid dim actress and that alone should have him fired and also drawn and quartered!

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  20. Jill Swanson February 13, 2015

    My, my, the venom. If you think you can do better, apply for his job. Frankly you sound like a nut job.

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  21. Paul Harris February 14, 2015

    How about calling them all bullies instead of thugs. That is a color blind term. As far as the Ritz Carlton I doubt that “thugs” were roaming the halls, but I wasn’t there. I was a tourist stuck in the Superdome during Katrina and the floods and almost all the media reports were exaggerated, in part due to those of us present who bought in to the hysteria and fear and helped fuel some of the rumors. Fear is a powerful emotion that unfortunately too often controls our lives.

    Paul Harris

    Author, “Diary From the Dome, Reflections on Fear and Privilege During Katrina”

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  22. Joe T February 26, 2015

    ONE word sums up the POTUS’s bullshirt ……..Nigger!

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  23. Joe T March 7, 2015

    http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
    JUST CLICK ON PHOTO TO WATCH VIDEO…ALL DOUBTS ERASED
    MORE VIDEOS AT END

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  24. Jane Snape April 7, 2015

    It’s awfully hard for me to join in on the media feeding frenzies against Brian Williams and Rolling Stone — frenzies that in their own way are a “tell” about the state of the US media, which stopped afflicting the comfortable decades ago and now don’t so much comfort the afflicted as lie to them, and so take out their frustration at their real-world impotence on a few meaningless targets.

    One of the reasons for this is that the loudest squawkers are those with the dirtiest hands.

    Item #1: None of the media mavens who lined up to stone Brian Williams ever apologized for their uncritical promotion of every single bogus Bush-Cheney-PNAC line used to sell us on the Iraq invasion. None.

    Item #2: Lisa Myers, who was infamous during the early part of 1999 for being a shill for Juanita Broaddrick and her own less-than-credible tale of being raped (and by Bill Clinton, no less!). See also: http://www.americanpolitics.com/022599pattern.html

    Never mind that there were holes in Ms. Broaddrick’s story one could drive a truck through (for one thing, her own ex-husband, Gary Hickey, counters each of her claims quite effectively). But Myers, who has yet to apologize for this, now has the nerve to attack Rolling Stone over their own dodgy rape accusation story? Hellooooo?!?!

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