Mulvaney's comments come as current and former White House aides are defying Trump's orders not to testify in the House impeachment inquiry.
Perry faded into the background of Trump’s cabinet and avoided the scandals that touched nearly every other top official — until recently.
Reports about Fiona Hill’s testimony confirm Trump and Giuliani’s efforts to induce Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden.
Aides to Trump want Rudy Giulini to just go away as his legal problems swamp him and he continues to damage his own case by going on TV and melting down.
A second potential whistleblower with more knowledge of Trump’s apparent criminal activity toward Ukraine has contacted the intelligence community’s inspector general.