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Eight Years Later, ‘Yes, We Can’ Became ‘Yes, He Did’

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Eight Years Later, ‘Yes, We Can’ Became ‘Yes, He Did’

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This is the lull between presidencies when we traditionally debate the issue of legacy.

Those who hate Barack Obama rant about all the awful things he’s done, while those who like him praise all the great things he’s done.

Obama himself is understandably concerned about edifying his legacy, which will be attacked with relish by the new president and the Republican-led Congress. That’s the politics of our day, and Obama can’t do much about it.

Ex-presidents are helpless to choose their places in history, a process that unfolds with time and perspective. Obama needn’t worry. He’ll be treated well.

When he entered the White House in January 2009, he basically was handed a steaming bag of crap — two endless and costly wars, skyrocketing national debt and an economy skidding toward a doomsday cliff.

He also faced hostile Republican leaders who, even before his first full day on the job, had met privately vowing to fight everything he proposed — including policy ideas that had originated with the GOP.

That’s the unwelcoming scenario that greeted the first African-American president eight years ago. Yet, in less than two weeks he’ll leave office with popularity ratings comparable to those of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton.

Most of our troops are home from Afghanistan and Iraq. Much of the al Qaida leadership — remember the maniacs who attacked us on 9/11? — has been decimated by drone strikes.

Oh, and Osama bin Laden is dead. (If a Republican president had ordered that raid, he would have been coronated.)

One other thing that happened during Obama’s presidency: The economy didn’t tank. In fact, a major recovery began.

More than 15 million new jobs have been added since 2010. Unemployment is way down, and so is the poverty rate. Incomes are rising even for the middle class. Gas prices are low and, for the first time in decades, America isn’t dependent on foreign oil.

The U.S. auto industry, on the brink of bankruptcy when Obama took office, is now roaring. Most of the bailout money has been paid back.

And lots of people have gotten richer on Wall Street, as stock prices soared with corporate profits.

Obama shouldn’t get credit for all of this, but the people who hate him give him no credit for anything. Some of them never came to grips with the fact there was a black guy in the White House. They just couldn’t deal with it, and still can’t.

History will.

It will also deal with the frightening rise of ISIS (should Obama have left more troops in Iraq?), the carnage in Syria (should Obama have sent arms sooner to the moderate rebels?) and the surge in mass shootings in the United States (should Obama have worked harder on gun control?).

It’s fashionable to say Obama’s “signature” achievement was the Affordable Care Act, which he did a terrible job of explaining and defending. That’s a big reason the Democrats lost the House of Representatives in the 2010 mid-term elections.

At the time, Republican leaders thundered that Obamacare would destroy the economy. It didn’t, of course.

It also didn’t work nearly as well it was supposed to. Now Donald Trump and Congress must figure out how to fix it without eliminating health insurance for 20 million working-class people (lots of whom probably voted for Trump).

For the first time in years, Republicans must shed their obstructionist mission and actually pass a few laws. The pressure is huge; only Charlie Manson has lower public approval ratings than Congress.

Now it will be the GOP’s turn to scramble for a miracle way to help all those Americans who haven’t been lifted by the economic recovery. Many of them abandoned the Democratic ticket in November, out of a justified frustration.

That’s the paradox of Obama’s resurgent popularity. It couldn’t save his party, or its presidential candidate, from a rural wave of disillusion they never saw coming.

(Republican bigshots didn’t see it coming, either. Look what happened to Jeb Bush and all the other “serious” candidates.)

At the end, when it mattered most, Obama couldn’t bring the country together. The politics of fear, hate and division cashed in.

As a result, the keys to the White House are being handed to a man who couldn’t be more different from his poised and deliberative predecessor.

Trump is starting with a much stronger hand than the one dealt to Obama. There are many challenges ahead, but nothing like the dire mess that confronted a new young president eight years ago.

That will be Obama’s legacy, the steady way he worked through it. The country is dramatically better off now than it was in January 2009, and that’s what the history books will say.

IMAGE: U.S. President Barack Obama speaks on the third night of the 2016 Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S., July 27, 2016.  REUTERS/Jim Young
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Carl Hiaasen

Carl Hiaasen is an award-winning journalist, commentator, and novelist. Hiaasen has worked for the Miami Herald since 1976, and his writing focuses on environmental and corruption issues in his home state of Florida.

His latest book is Skink—No Surrender (2014).

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  1. Godzilla January 8, 2017

    Thankfully…The End of an Error!

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    1. queenbee January 8, 2017

      The beginning of the World End!

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      1. mike January 9, 2017

        Only in your eyes Henny Penny

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      2. dpaano January 9, 2017

        Unfortunately, most of the trolls on this site have NO idea of the problems that Trump’s presidency is going to acerbate in the next 4 years! Things are running smoothly now…..even Obamacare is starting to show a decent start this year. So, we’ll see what Trump and his cronies do to that one…..the repeal of which will hurt his followers more than any other group of people! The people in the Rust Belt are the hardest hit when it comes to being poor and middle class…..cut off their healthcare, and what do you think will happen to them?

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    3. Bill P January 9, 2017

      No the start of a new error known as the Reign of Terror

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  2. I of John January 9, 2017

    Say what you will, we are far better off now then at the end if GW Bush’s time.

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    1. mike January 9, 2017

      Many in the democratic base said differently. He steadied the ship but held back a true recovery from happening with anti-business policies. The social-warrior bulls**t is dead. What we know we are less safe, less better off.

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  3. Jim Samaras January 9, 2017

    I wish I had written this! It best describes why and how Trump won the election.

    Tuesday November 8, 2016 – a day that will live in infamy, or the moment when America was made great again?
    The truth, as ever, will lie somewhere in the middle. After all, contrary to what both his supporters and detractors believe – and this is probably the only thing they agree on – Trump won’t be able to come into office and spend his first 100 days gleefully ripping up all the bits of the Constitution he doesn’t like.
    But even if this week’s seismic shockwave doesn’t signal either the sky falling in or the start of a bright new American era, the result was, to use one of The Donald’s favourite phrases, huge. It is, in fact, a total game changer.
    In decades to come, historians will still bicker about the most poisonous, toxic and stupid election in living memory.
    They will also be bickering over the same vexed question – how did a man who was already unpopular with the public and who boasted precisely zero political experience beat a seasoned Washington insider who was married to one extremely popular president and who had worked closely with another?
    The answer, ultimately, is in the question.
    History will record this as a Trump victory, which of course it is. But it was also more than that, because this was the most stunning self-inflicted defeat in the history of Western democracy.
    Hillary Clinton has damned her party to irrelevance for at least the next four years. She has also ensured that Obama’s legacy will now be a footnote rather than a chapter. Because the Affordable Care Act is now doomed under a Trump presidency and that was always meant to be his gift, of sorts, to America.
    How did a candidate who had virtually all of the media, all of Hollywood, every celebrity you could think of, a couple of former presidents and apparently, the hopes of an entire gender resting on her shoulders, blow up her own campaign?
    I rather suspect that neither Donald nor Hillary know how they got to this point.
    Where she seemed to expect the position to become available to her by right – the phrase “she deserves it” was used early in the campaign and then quickly dropped when her team remembered that Americans don’t like inherited power – his first steps into the campaign were those of someone chancing their arm. If he wasn’t such a staunch teetotaller, many observers would have accused him of only doing it as a drunken bet.
    But the more the campaign wore on, something truly astonishing began to happen – the people began to speak. And they began to speak in a voice which, for the first time in years in the American heartland, would not be ignored.
    Few of the people who voted for Trump seriously believe that he is going to personally improve their fortunes. Contrary to the smug, middle-class media narrative, they aren’t all barely educated idiots.
    They know what he is, of course they do. It’s what he is not that appeals to them.
    Clinton, on the other hand, had come to represent the apex of smug privilege. Whether it was boasting about her desire to shut down the remaining coal industry in Virginia – that worked out well for her, in the end – or calling half the electorate a “basket of deplorables”, she seemed to operate in the perfumed air of the elite, more obsessed with coddling idiots and pandering to identity and feelings than improving the hardscrabble life that is the lot of millions of Americans.
    Also, nobody who voted for Trump did so because they wanted him as a spiritual guru or life coach.
    But plenty of people invested an irrational amount of emotional energy into a woman who was patently undeserving of that level of adoration.
    That’s why we’ve witnessed such fury from her supporters – they had wrapped themselves so tightly in the Hillary flag that a rejection of her felt like a rejection of them. And when you consider that many American colleges gave their students Wednesday off class because they were too ‘upset’ to study, you can see that this wasn’t a battle for the White House – this became a genuine battle for America’s future direction. And, indeed, for the West. (Emphasis mine/jcm)
    We have been going through a cultural paroxysm for the last 10 years – the rise of identity politics has created a Balkanised society where the content of someone’s mind is less important than their skin colour, gender, sexuality or whatever other attention-seeking label they wish to bestow upon themselves.
    In fact, where once it looked like racism and sexism might be becoming archaic remnants of a darker time, a whole new generation has popped up which wants to re-litigate all those arguments all over again.
    In fact, while many of us are too young to recall the Vietnam war and the social upheaval of the 1960s, plenty of observers who were say they haven’t seen an America more at war with itself than it is today.
    One perfect example of this new America has been the renewed calls for segregation on campuses. Even a few years ago, such a move would have been greeted with understandable horror by civil rights activists – but this time it’s the black students demanding segregation and “safe spaces” from whites. If young people calling for racial segregation from each other isn’t the sign of a very, very sick society, nothing is.
    The irony of Clinton calling Trump and his followers racist while she was courting Black Lives Matter was telling.
    After all, no rational white person would defend the KKK, yet here was a white women defending both BLM and the New Black Panthers – explicitly racist organisations with the NBP, in particularly, openly espousing a race war if they don’t get what they want.
    Fundamentally, Trump was attractive because he represents a repudiation of the nonsense that has been slowly strangling the West.
    He represents – rightly or wrongly, and the dust has still to settle – a scorn and contempt for these new rules. He won’t be a president worried about microaggressions, or listening to the views of patently insane people just because they come from a fashionably protected group.
    He also represents a glorious two fingers to everyone who has become sick of being called a racist or a bigot or a homophobe – particularly by Hillary supporters who are too dense to realise that she has always actually been more conservative on social issues than Trump.
    That it might take a madman to restore some sanity to America is, I suppose, a quirk that is typical to that great nation – land of the free and home to more contradictions than anyone can imagine.
    Trump’s victory also signals just how out of step the media has been with the people. Not just American media, either.
    In fact, the Irish media has continued its desperate drive to make a show of itself with a seemingly endless parade of emotionally incontinent gibberish that, ironically, has increased in ferocity and hysterical spite in the last few days.
    The fact that Hillary’s main cheerleaders in the Irish and UK media still haven’t realised where they went wrong is instructive and amusing in equal measure. They still don’t seem to understand that by constantly insulting his supporters, they’re just making asses of themselves.
    One female contributor to this newspaper said Trump’s victory was a “sad day for women”. Well, not for the women who voted for him, it wasn’t.
    But that really is the nub of the matter – the ‘wrong’ kind of women obviously voted for Trump. The ‘right’ kind went with Hillary. And lost.
    The Irish media is not alone in being filled largely with dinner-party liberals who have never had an original or socially awkward thought in their lives. They simply assume that everyone lives in the same bubble and thinks the same thoughts – and if they don’t, they should.
    Of the many things that have changed with Trump’s victory, the bubble has burst. Never in American history have the polls, the media and the chin-stroking moral arbiters of the liberal agenda been so spectacularly, wonderfully wrong.
    It was exactly that condescending, obnoxious sneer towards the working class that brought them out in such numbers, and that is the great irony of Election 16 – the Left spent years creating identity politics to the extent that the only group left without protection or a celebrity sponsor was the white American male.
    That it was the white American male who swung it for Trump is a timely reminder that while black lives matter, all votes count – even the ones of people you despise.
    You don’t have to be a supporter of Trump to take great delight in the sheer, apoplectic rage that has greeted his victory.
    If Clinton had won and Trump supporters had gone on a rampage through a dozen American cities the next night, there would have been outrage – and rightly so.
    But in a morally and linguistically inverted society, the wrong-doers are portrayed as the victims. We saw that at numerous Trump rallies – protesters would disrupt the event, claiming their right to free speech (a heckler’s veto is not free speech) and provoking people until they got a dig before running to the media and claiming victimhood.
    But, ultimately, this election was about people saying enough with the bullshit. This is a country in crisis, and most Americans don’t care about transgender bathrooms, or safe spaces, or government speech laws. This was about people taking some control back for themselves.
    It was about them saying that they won’t be hectored and bullied by the toddler tantrums thrown by pissy and spoiled millennials and they certainly won’t put up with being told they’re stupid and wicked just because they have a difference of opinion.
    But, really, this election is about hope for a better America; an America which isn’t obsessed with identity and perceived ‘privilege’; an American where being a victim isn’t a virtue and where you don’t have to apologise for not being up to date with the latest list of socially acceptable phrases.
    Trump’s victory was a two fingers to the politically correct.
    It was a brutal rejection of the nonsense narrative which says Muslims who kill Americans are somehow victims. It took the ludicrous Green agenda and threw it out. It was a return, on some level, to a time when people weren’t afraid to speak their own mind without some self-elected language cop shouting at you. Who knows, we may even see Trump kicking the UN out of New York.
    Frankly, if you’re one of those who gets their politics from Jon Stewart and Twitter, look away for the next four years, because you’re not going to like what you see. The rest of us, however, will be delighted.
    This might go terribly, terribly wrong. Nobody knows – and if we have learned anything this week, it’s that nobody knows nuthin’.
    But just as the people of the UK took control back with Brexit, the people of America did likewise with their choice for president.
    It’s called democracy. Deal with it!

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    1. mike January 9, 2017

      Long but good!

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  4. mike January 9, 2017

    At least Carl Hiaasen didn’t Sugar Coat his legacy. What he didn’t express as to employment is that 9 out 10 new hires are part-time or contract workers. Povery is still above 2008 as is median household income is still below 2008. Trying to give Obama credit for Stock Market is pure baloney when knowledgeable people know it is all about the Federal Reserve. His signature program on life support.
    What is most evident is when obama exits the WH on the 20th, he’ll leave behind a democratic party that languished in his shadow for years and is now searching for itself.
    A party that has lost the House Senate, WH, 12 governorships and 1000 state democratic legislative seats.
    Quite a legacy in deed.

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    1. Dan S January 9, 2017

      And just say McCain had in won in 2008, do you honestly think he would’ve done a better job? Or say Trump himself getting elected in that hot mess. I seriously doubt we would still be a nation if not for President Obama. Do you think we’ll be better off or worse after letting Trump run this country ?

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      1. Jim Samaras January 9, 2017

        McCain stood no chance after selecting Palin as a running mate and come back in 8 years ready to be amazed.

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        1. jmprint January 9, 2017

          If we’re allowed.

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      2. mike January 9, 2017

        I think you give to much credit to Obama about “still be a nation.” Yes, Obama steadied the ship but didn’t advance it economically. Remember the recession was over 2009 but the recovery was at a snail pace compared to recession. McCain would have put less emphasis on all the social-warrior crap and got the ecomomy headed in the right direction First. The country was in spiral and the left was more interested in big social programs than the economy. As big govt. people they thought the answer was just big govt. spending and regulations/laws to handicap the business community.
        The bottom line is that after 8 years 3 very blue states and another 27 states said “we have had enough.”
        What is quite evident is the democratic party now needs to focus on the party-rebuilding that Mr. Obama neglected. A party that has lost power and its identity.
        Obama did not do the party any favors this last years. I was all about him and very little about the party.
        Under Obama strategy of passing legislation by the narrowist partisan majority, or falling back on executive orders-are exactly what makes his legacy very vulnerable.
        Live by the EO’s, die by the EO’s.

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        1. Dan S January 9, 2017

          All I can say Mike is I hope for this nations sake Trump won’t continue to act like an infantile child as President. A lot of people were very happy with President Obama and for me despite losing my first wife to cancer my life is now stronger than before President Obama came to help this country and finally had taken down the real mastermind behind 911 bin laden. With no major terror attacks since do you think we’ll stay safe under Trump ? It’s a serious question

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          1. mike January 9, 2017

            “Infantile” are you referring to his tweets? If so, his tweets bypass the media and goes straight to the people with his message. Will he do as many? We will see! But it is effective. Look how the media reacts to them.
            Millions of voters said they were not happy with obama’s agenda.
            The left underestimated trump during the election and is doing the same now. He is far more living in the real world than Obama ever was.
            Feel your loss being a 2 time survivor(3x if you count skin cancer)

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          2. Bill P January 9, 2017

            Your comment of Trump living in the real world is beyond laughable. This bloated billionaire lives in gold palace, flies in a private jet, owns a mansion in Florida in addition to his gold palace. Sure he lives in the real world, the really limited world of the 1%’ers.

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          3. Dan S January 9, 2017

            Thanks for that response to Mike. I hoped of maybe trying to see if he can have a rational talk but all hope of that just went by the wayside. These people just don’t seem to appreciate the fact that we did well under President Obama. If it wasn’t for all the obstruction by the like of Republicans like Sen. McConnell so much more could’ve been achieved. They didn’t want to give Democrats the satisfaction and refused to work with President Obama but of course now they’re supposed to roll over for Trump and not question his appointments choices. There’s a double standard in Washington and this country is going to have to spend more time dealing with damage control over a President Trump having continual hissy fits. Mon now he’s talking smack about Meryl Streep because she had some choice words for him at the Golden Globes

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          4. Bill P January 9, 2017

            Dan these trolls will never admit that they are better off now then they were 8 years ago. When I asked any of these trolls who had a better administration – W or Obama – I get silence.

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          5. mike January 10, 2017

            If the American people are better off now, why did the left lose?
            Media household income better than before the meltdown. No!
            Is poverty still above pre-meltdown? Yes!
            How does 9 out 10 new hires part time or contract make it better? How does working less than 30 hours because Obamacare make it better.
            You are either disingenuous or ignorant of the facts if you think the meltdown was strictly 43’s fault. The meltdown happened under Bush but he is only partially responsible. Every report has shown no party or individual is without blame.
            Since we are so much better off, why would anyone vote against their wallet/pocketbook?

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          6. Bill P January 12, 2017

            Are you claiming that the country and its people aren’t better off than they were in 1/2009? Not sure what “Media” household income is, do you meant the average income of people in the media?
            As for your 9 out o10 new hires being part time or contract, that’s a totally bogus statement and is unsubstantiated. The average work week is 34+ hours not less than 30 hours that you claim. The average hourly and weekly wages have been increasing since 2011 but they are still lower than 2007 by $900.
            I’m not claiming that W is solely responsible for the 2007 meltdown but he was the president at that time (remember the buck stops here). Congress, Mortgage Banks, Wall Street and Banks in general own part of the responsibility. You, however should practice what you preach, you lay all of the blame for anything that went wrong at President Obama’s feet. You ignore the fact that the Republican controlled Congress obstructed the president any time they could. In fact McConnell bragged about how his main job was to make President Obama a 1 term president, didn’t happen did it?

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          7. mike January 12, 2017

            OMG I left the “n” off. You got the message.
            What I said, it the voters felt they were part of the rosy picture that Obama likes to tell, then Clinton would have won those blue states. Now what year did Mitch make that remark? At the beginning?
            Here’s what we know, under obama full time jobs have dropped by 30% and part time increased by 13%. Temp jobs have jumped by 52%. Hiring has been solid yet still hasn’t kept up with population growth. The proportion of Americans with jobs — essentially the flip side of the unemployment rate — dropped a full percentage point under Obama. What we also know is the influx of the millennial generattion are replacing retiring baby boomers, usually at lower pay, which has held down overall wages throughout the recovery.
            Obama lived by the EO’s and AO’s never really wanted to get hands soiled with Congress.

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          8. mike January 9, 2017

            Far from laughable. Obama and his Russian reset button was a disaster, ISIS being a JV team, red-line in Syria, The “enemy” chosen by Obama to animate America’s grand strategy is climate change. etc.
            January 2015
            NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, the network’s senior foreign policy correspondent, on last night’s speech: “I think that on foreign policy, his projection of success against terrorism and against ISIS, in particular, as I said, is not close to reality.”

            Chris Matthews, the adoring Obama supporter who once said Mr. Obama’s charisma made him feel “this thrill going up my leg,” commented after last night’s speech, “I keep thinking tonight that there is a world out there that he didn’t really talk about.” That’s putting it gently.

            Richard Engel, NBC’s chief foreign correspondent, delivered the most devastating analysis of the President’s claims:

            “It seems that the rose-colored glasses through which [President Obama] was viewing the foreign policy were so rose-colored that they don’t even reflect the world that we’re living in … ISIS is doing very well, and the strategy is completely disjointed … To sell that as a success, I think was missing the point, maybe even disingenuous.”
            The media broadly praised President Obama’s sixth State of the Union address last night as a “confident” and “ambitious” speech. But even his traditional allies in the press could not ignore the fact that it was a confident speech completely disconnected from the real world.

            Here is NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, the network’s senior foreign policy correspondent, on last night’s speech: “I think that on foreign policy, his projection of success against terrorism and against ISIS, in particular, as I said, is not close to reality.”

            Chris Matthews, the adoring Obama supporter who once said Mr. Obama’s charisma made him feel “this thrill going up my leg,” commented after last night’s speech, “I keep thinking tonight that there is a world out there that he didn’t really talk about.” That’s putting it gently.

            Richard Engel, NBC’s chief foreign correspondent, delivered the most devastating analysis of the President’s claims:

            “It seems that the rose-colored glasses through which [President Obama] was viewing the foreign policy were so rose-colored that they don’t even reflect the world that we’re living in … ISIS is doing very well, and the strategy is completely disjointed … To sell that as a success, I think was missing the point, maybe even disingenuous.”

            Engel elaborated:

            “It sounded like the President was outlining a world that he wishes we were all living in but is very different from the world [described in the news], with terror raids taking place across Europe, with ISIS very much on the move. One thing the President said was that ‘American leadership, including our military power, is stopping ISIL’s advance.’ That just isn’t the case…”

            “He talked about building support for the moderate Syrian opposition. That effectively isn’t happening. There is no real support for the moderate Syrian opposition. In fact, one military official told me that they are calling the moderate Syrian opposition the ‘unicorn’ because they have not been able to find it.

            So there was a general tone, maybe even suspended disbelief, I think when he started talking about foreign policy. There’s not a lot of success stories to be talking about in foreign policy right now.”

            Even senior members of the President’s own party have been unable to stomach some of the President’s claims. Democratic Senator Bob Menendez, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, this morning described the President’s quotes on Iran as “sound[ing] like talking points that come straight out of Tehran.”
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            What was striking about President Obama’s speech was his inability to describe radical Islamism as a movement.

            He continues to focus on geography instead of ideology. He refers only to “violent extremism.”

            He continues to bounce from terror group to terror group as though they’re distinct threats. The current conversation is about ISIL (or ISIS) in Northern Syria and Iraq.

            The President failed to mention Boko Haram, however, which last year killed more people in Nigeria (10,000) than Ebola did in all of Africa (8,000). To her credit, Senator Joni Ernst, in a very short reaction speech, did mention Nigeria as a trouble spot.

            Ironically, the front pages of today’s newspapers report the State of the Union on one side and the battle in the capital of Yemen on the other side. Yemen is a country President Obama had cited as a model of how we are making progress against “violent extremists.”

            Today the Yemeni president “cannot leave his house,” according to the Associated Press, because Islamist rebels are holding him “captive” in his home. The country got no mention last night.

            The state of the union, on national security matters at least, is a disaster. A president who tries to hide from the threats we face — or worse, to construct his own world in which they don’t exist — is making the planet a much more dangerous place. One with “confidence” disconnected from reality isn’t showing leadership. He’s showing pure foolishness.

            Here’s more

            p://thehill.com/policy/finance/244539-house-dem-obama-has-lost-touch-with-real-world-on-trade

            http://journal-neo.org/2015/10/03/putin-lives-in-the-real-world-obama-lives-in-a-fantasyland/

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2017/01/08/obama_leaves_the_world_in_flames_399597.html

            No, you are laughable with your ignorance of the Obama’s “real world”.

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          9. Bill P January 12, 2017

            Mike thanks for the lengthy but irrelevant reply. The topic of this thread was you writing an total y asinine comment that Trump won because he lives in the “real” world. I guess you are correct if the real world is populated by billionaires who live in a gold castle on the top of an eponymous tower, fly in a large private jet, owns an ocean front mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, have a stake in numerous business including those that manufacture product outside the US and more. The topic was your stupid statement nothing about President Obama. It shows you have nothing to refute the lunacy of your statement so you attack the president, I guess you have OOS (Obsessive Obama Syndrome). Stay on topic.

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          10. mike January 12, 2017

            Keep trying!
            Go back and read the tread. I said trump lives in the real world more than Obama. He scoffed at my comment so I gave him one of many showing how out of touch Obama is with the rest of the world.
            Even a sixth grader could see that.

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          11. Bill P January 13, 2017

            Your original comment stated that Trump won the election because he lived in the “real” world. There was no mention of President Obama in that statement and it would be totally irrelevant since Trump wasn’t running against him. You edited or deleted your original statement. Great attempt at backtracking your comment.

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          12. mike January 13, 2017

            No, nothing has been changed. It’s all in your mind.

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          13. Bill P January 13, 2017

            Bullshit your original comment made no mention of President Obama. Even trying to make this comment is ridiculous, for the 8 years that President Obama has lived in the White House that’s hardly a real world living. However before that he lived in Chicago at a good house but nothing that compares to Trump’s gold palace in the eponymous tower on the middle of 5th Ave in NYC one of the most expensive pieces of real estate in this country. President Obama doesn’t own a private jet like Trump does, yes the president flies in Air Force One but he doesn’t own In addition Trump owns an ocean front mansion in Palm Beach Florida. You have to been insane to believe Trump is more of a real world person than President Obama. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3a5634aeb1dba064309bde4444a7b80f42f7fd66a0ca8ac1ba235fbf77eb2ae1.jpg

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          14. mike January 13, 2017

            The bullsh*t is all yours. I showed you where to find the post, douche bag.
            Obama policies were proof he didn’t live in the real world. Here’s another no less than from his own party.

            http://thehill.com/policy/finance/244539-house-dem-obama-has-lost-touch-with-real-world-on-trade

            Who gives a rats a$$ about Trumps possessions!
            What I do give a damn about is that on the 20th he will be the 45th President of the United States of America.

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          15. Bill P January 17, 2017

            Your original claim stated that Trump won because he lives in the “real” world. Even trying to compare Trump’s world to anyone other than the billionaires in this country is ridiculous. Trump is in the top 0.1%, those who live in the real world don’t live in the same stratosphere as your bloated hero.

            As for you asinine comment of “Who gives a rats a$$ about Trumps possessions!” Millions of people would love to have a small % of his wealth.
            Your OOS is showing President Obama lives in the real world, he doesn’t have a private jumbo jet, own an ocean front mansion in Palm Beach or own numerous companies in the US, Asia, Europe and some other places. The Obamas lived in a regular house, didn’t have servants and other ultra wealthy trappings.
            As for the name calling that just shows what low class infantile person you are.

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          16. mike January 13, 2017

            Go back 4 days to my post starting “infantile” and then tell me I’m backtracking.

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          17. mike January 17, 2017

            No, nothing deleted/edited. I gave you the post where it showed where I mentioned Obama.
            You’re just being intellectually dishonest.
            T-6 days and counting.

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          18. Bill P January 21, 2017

            Mike you write whatever you choose to but you did create a totally asinine comment when you stated that Trump won because he lives in the “real” world. Sure he does, doesn’t everyone else in the real world live in a gold palace? Maybe I’m being intellectually dishonest but you have shown yourself to be as good a liar as Trump.
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e8edf942ffafd50d64a6adec8cd83cf4cb49c42457f926c31c5bb852e9a7e66.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7c50f0e91c44ebf240f66bdd2306e716b680945f1d0bcec270733ae483456af6.jpg

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          19. mike January 21, 2017

            You still don’t get! Physical possessions have nothing to do with “living in the real world” but everything to do with recognizing the world we live in. If you think this world is safer now than before he took office then you are either disingenuous or just stupid, I think the later fits you perfectly.

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          20. Bill P January 28, 2017

            Mike my apologies I didn’t know you were speaking alternative facts. You don’t want to admit that you made a totally asinine comment. Billionaires don’t live in the real world, unless you believe that being driven wherever they want to go or flying in their private jumbo jet or having mansions as 2nd homes is the real world. I can tell when you know you have lost, you try to change the subject and get derogatory. You can spin this anyway you like or call me names, I know you have nothing to come back with about your hilarious and really stupid comment.

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    2. jmprint January 9, 2017

      boring, how many time are you suppose to recite your dribble.

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  5. dpaano January 9, 2017

    President Obama should NEVER worry about his legacy…..it’s clear that he was one of the best presidents we’ve had in this nation, and this will become much clearer as the years go by. People will see for themselves all that he did once Trumps starts dismantling all of it to the detriment of the poor and middle class that he so nicely conned!

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  6. aboonaj January 9, 2017

    GREAT article! The ONLY people that WON’T see it that way are deniers, racists, or otherwise imbeciles — a la the incoming “resident” of — oh. yeah. WHEREVER he’s living..

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