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It’s Hard To Run A Democracy With An Ignorant Public

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It’s Hard To Run A Democracy With An Ignorant Public

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“Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”

–Vice President Dick Cheney, 2002

Given the great hullabaloo in Washington over government spending, here are a couple of noteworthy facts. Under President Obama, the federal budget deficit has been more than cut in half, from a FY 2009 high of $1.55 trillion (largely inherited from George W. Bush) to an estimated $642 billion this year, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

However, a recent Bloomberg News poll shows that 10 percent of American voters are acquainted with this indisputable fact — 59 percent mistakenly believe that the deficit has risen under Obama. Another 26 percent think it’s remained approximately the same. It’s hard to run a democracy given such widespread public ignorance.

Militant ignorance, much of it. Fully 93 percent of Tea Party members subscribe to the false belief that government spending is skyrocketing out of control. No wonder they’re running around with their hair on fire.

But hold that thought, because there’s more: Measured as a percentage of the overall U.S. economy, the federal budget deficit has shrunk from 10.1 percent in 2009 to 4 percent today. Given increased revenue and decreased spending, the CBO projects the figure will decrease to 2.1 percent by 2015.

“By comparison,” the May 2013 report notes, “the deficit averaged 3.1 percent of GDP over the past 40 years.”

And for this we needed a government shutdown?

And yes, I said decreased government spending. Contrary to the myth of federal profligacy under President Obama, total expenditures for FY 2013 and 2014 (which began last October 1) have actually gone down for two years running, together with government employment.

Overall, since 2009 government spending has risen at an annualized rate of only 1.4 percent, as compared to 8.1 percent during George W. Bush’s second term, 4.9 percent during Ronald Reagan’s, and 5.4 percent under George Bush the elder. Bill Clinton averaged 3.9 percent during his second term.

(Incidentally, the CBO projects that the Affordable Care Act — assuming the Healthcare.gov website eventually gets put in working order — will also contribute to shrinking the deficit, albeit a modest $143 billion over 10 years.)

Gene Lyons

Gene Lyons is a political columnist and author. Lyons writes a column for the Arkansas Times that is nationally syndicated by United Media. He was previously a general editor at Newsweek as wells an associate editor at Texas Monthly where he won a National Magazine Award in 1980. He contributes to Salon.com and has written for such magazines as Harper's, The New York Times Magazine, The New York Review of Books, Entertainment Weekly, Washington Monthly, The Nation, Esquire, and Slate. A graduate of Rutgers University with a Ph.D. in English from the University of Virginia, Lyons taught at the Universities of Massachusetts, Arkansas and Texas before becoming a full-time writer in 1976. A native of New Jersey, Lyons has lived in Arkansas with his wife Diane since 1972. The Lyons live on a cattle farm near Houston, Ark., with a half-dozen dogs, several cats, three horses, and a growing herd of Fleckvieh Simmental cows. Lyons has written several books including The Higher Illiteracy (University of Arkansas, 1988), Widow's Web (Simon & Schuster, 1993), Fools for Scandal (Franklin Square, 1996) as well as The Hunting Of The President: The 10 Year Campaign to Destroy Bill and Hillary Clinton, which he co-authored with National Memo Editor-in-Chief Joe Conason.

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  1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

    The headline should be: It’s hard to run a democracy with a president who lies.

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    1. Budjob October 30, 2013

      Hello there shit for brains,Heaps sees,but fews knows,lots starts,but nobody goes,make dates but,can’t fill em,see snakes but,can’t kill em!So honk your horn and toot your tooter there goes asshole on his motor scooter.Hello world,GUESS WHO!!! Nyuk,Nyuk,Nyuk!!!

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      1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

        hello Budjob: I see you whine about not getting enough $$$$ to eat while on the dole but clearly you can afford drugs. And all your insults? funny how when you tried to change the subject yesterday, you go MIA for 24 hours because you cannot reply to me.. I will assume I was correct and you were wrong. I still thank you for your service. And a reminder, Obama is sending $$$$ to and arming those countries which openly declare they seek our destruction and the destruction of our allies. That is undeniable, but you won’t oppose that openly because it is more important to you to deny everything anyone says that criticizes obama even to the detriment of your country and its people. it’s sad really, because that it something we should all agree on. It is not a democrat or republican thing. You brought it up and now cannot defend it, so you choose to insult me instead. That does nothing,,.,.except hasten our demise.

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        1. Budjob October 30, 2013

          Don’t be surprised if you receive a rejection letter from Mensa!

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker October 30, 2013

            Infa…spends entire days, weeks and months posting drivel you’d hear in a mental institution.

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          2. disqus_ivSI3ByGmh October 30, 2013

            Eleanore – Or on a Fox newscast, not that there is any difference between the two.

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          3. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            still no argument.?.. sad…….shalom

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          4. Dominick Vila October 30, 2013

            Some of us have things to do…
            CU later.

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          5. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            nice cop out……and yes, you have things to do……..will you do them?

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker October 30, 2013

          Infa…If you are doing an imitation of the totally productive man whose talents, skills and productivity are superior to all others, you’ve failed. Day after day, you post post post post…One wonders how the hell you have time to move your bowels.

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          1. adler56 October 30, 2013

            or earn a living

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          2. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Well, he does appear to be consistently full of shit, so perhaps not.

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          3. nirodha November 1, 2013

            That’s why his eyes are brown!

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          4. idamag November 1, 2013

            Maybe he doesn’t. It is obvious he is full of sh**.

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        3. Dominick Vila October 30, 2013

          The countries that have, and continue to receive foreign and military aid from the USA have been getting it since before Begin and Mubarak were in power, and Musharraf was playing cat and mouse with Bush II while giving safe haven to the architect of 9/11. I favor ending that aid immediately, let Israel deal with potential Egyptian support to terrorist organizations, and let Pakistani government deal with the Pashtuns who are determined to seize power in that country, but insinuating that aid is the work of President Obama is a new low, even by your standards.

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          1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            the point was the deflection used by budjob and his failure to reply to me when called on it. you would know that if you followed his first comment and the posts that followed instead of jumping into this one. as for your post, the old “he started it” crap doesn’t wash.. Obama was here to “finish it” remember? and bring “change” but as you admit we still have more of the same, with obama’s foot on the accelerator. budjob and the rest of you are constantly spinning any comment the way you like by changing the original subject, alinskylike, and ignore the obvious when called on it, finally resulting in insults as a defense . not good enough. I agree with a lot of what you post Dominick, but for some reason you may go on for 3 paragraphs making points that both sides can agree on, then you have to get a jab or insult towards the right in for your final paragraph or sentence lest your fellow lefties disaprove of you getting along with “the enemy” and downvote you. Too bad, you’re about the only one on this site that actually tries to read all points of view expressed with an open mind, but in the end, you and others like budjob choose your party over your country. Blessings have a good day

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          2. adler56 October 30, 2013

            a phony Christian on top of the hypocrisy?

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          3. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            you are yet another leftie who cannot follow a thread and/or you just read things that are not there. Who injected Christianity into my post? if the word “blessings” offends you, look up the meaning. Sorry you couldn’t find anything else to criticize in my post so you had to spin a word into a label and a lame insult? You are not the one to judge who is Christian enough ok? Have I told you I was Christian? No! I also use Shalom Aleichem, have I told you I was Jewish or Muslim? No! I like the thought of wishing blessings and peace on people, even ones I disagree with, don’t you?. Sad that you find this offensive. And hypocritical? really? your last post covers that one, Adler. Shalom and Blessings…

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          4. Dominick Vila October 30, 2013

            The reason foreign aid and military aid to countries such as Egypt and Pakistan have not come to an end, and have been embraced by subsequent administrations – Republicans and Democrats – is because that aid help us achieve geo-political goals. In a not so subtle way, those are bribes being used to advance our interests.
            I think it is also important to remember that when President Obama tried to accelerate our withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, and when he decided to authorize drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and other places with a robust Al Qaeda presence, he was accused of compromising our national security and killing Americans (U.S. citizens who had become active AQ members and were attacking our troops and our interests in the region. The same goes for his proposal to close the Gitmo prison camp.
            I support ending ALL foreign aid with the exception of humanitarian aid to countries afflicted by famine or disease, and I am disappointed President Obama has not told his critics to take a hike and end aid to Egypt and Pakistan, but doing so requires bipartisan support that he is unlikely to get from one of the most dysfunctional U.S. governments in history.
            We seem to devote more time pointing fingers and insulting each other than listening to each other and doing what is best for us as a nation.
            As for trying to please Democrats, I took a lot of heat when I said that Snowden is a traitor and expressed my support for the intelligence actions that are being taken to maintain our national security.

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          5. Wellstone October 30, 2013

            You are clinically insane.

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          6. dpaano October 30, 2013

            Unfortunately, what you’re implying that budjob is doing is the VERY same thing that most Republicans do everyday. Give them facts, and they will turn them around to their liking EVERY TIME!! In fact, they don’t even believe in facts…..who needs them apparently….they’ll make up their own at the drop of a hat. Unbelievable!

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          7. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            Is that the best you can do? Come on!!! Pointing to one person’s bad behavior or act to justify the same act by another person does not an argument make. budjob did change the subject and i replied to it and boom! he changed the subject again.Then he goes missing in action for 24 hours and comes back with no argument, just a children’s book reference? and vulgar insults. As for making up facts and spinning them, maybe you won’t admit it, a lot of people on here will pledge blind obedience to their party no matter what their “representatives” do, but I say both sides spin the bs pretty well.

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          8. sigrid28 October 30, 2013

            Charles Dickens did write books all children are assigned to read in school, but in fact his major works were written for the adult reading audience of nineteenth-century Britain. Many are lengthy novels first published serially in the magazines of the time. By the way, the politics of Dickens’s London was just as contentious as ours. That is why you yourself might enjoy reading one of his novels. I would recommend “Little Dorritt,” because it is highly critical of debtors’ prison, where the young girl lives with her family–that’s the rags part of the story. Later, through the intervention of honest friends, the family comes into great wealth, the equivalent in our society of winning the lottery–that’s the riches part of the story. Still later in the novel, the friend who found the treasure that had been stolen from Little Dorritt’s family finds himself in debtor’s prison. As a person offended when a perfect stranger like budjob insults you online, you might find some comfort by reading this novel or listening to the audio version of the book. Unfairness is, unfortunately, a universal phenomenon.

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          9. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

            Mercy! You are getting so boring — have you no compassion for other posters here?

            You know, for all of your whiteness and all of Obama’s blackness, he STILL is more wealthy than you, more successful than you, more popular than you, more respected than you AND he could kick your ass all day long.

            Does this tell you anything, goober?

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          10. nirodha October 31, 2013

            You are such a sophist. Go fuck yourself, eat shit and die!

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          11. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            AS I pointed out in earlier post, you are a hypocrite and/or a racist, so you have zero credibility calling anyone names. I am sorry you can not always be right. Just because you say something does not mean it is true. Attempting to silence those who disagree with you by shouting them down or calling them your label of the day will not shut them up. They have their opinion too and every right to speak it. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” Mark Twain. I noticed a lot of you lefties resort to swearing when you get your bvd’s in a bunch. You can use a word like sophist, but cannot find the words to insult me without the use of the fbomb ? Quite sad really, that your English is that poor. Shalom

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          12. nirodha November 1, 2013

            Is that all you got? You are pathetic.

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          13. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            this is your previous post with ** used in places to avoid using the words you actually posted .
            “You are such a sophist. Go f*** yourself, eat s*** and die! ”
            I ask you, how stupid are you to then ask me, “Is that all you got”?
            That sir, is truly pathetic……………have a great day.

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          14. nirodha November 1, 2013

            I recall that one of the heroes of the 1970s republicans, R. Milhous Nixon, used the the so-called “F-bomb” to which you apparently object when he was asked about the poor among us. His response? “The poor? Fuck the poor!” So you see, I’m just echoing one of your party’s luminaries.

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          15. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            nixon is relevant to your hypocrisy and racism , how? nice try at deflection. Thats the difference between a leftist koolaid drinking sheep and me, you sheep try to steer the conversion away from a topic you don’t like or a truth presented to you. That doesn’t work with me puddin pop. I am focused on original topic which is your hypocrisy and racism. Deal with it. I could give a democrat’s butt about nixon. He’s gone, and so is Bush . man up dude!!!!!

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          16. nirodha November 1, 2013

            No, SFB, you are the one who stated an objection to my advising you to go fuck yourself, eat shit and die. My advice still stands, and unlike you, there is no so-called deflection there.

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          17. idamag November 1, 2013

            Dick Cheney shouted it out to a member of Congress on the floor.

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        4. adler56 October 30, 2013

          You do remember Rummy being sent to Iraq with a plane full of money by old man Bush don’t you? Your selective memory is what makes you a hypocrite.

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          1. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            …infa also loves to talk about Bengazi while totally ignoring the fact that there were 13 (thirteen) assaults on our embassies on foreign soil while Bush was in office (ALL resulting in deaths)…they didn’t give a hoot then, but then the President was a good ole white boy from Texas….

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      2. sigrid28 October 30, 2013

        Proof of the truth behind this article’s title, you are up early and citing Charles Dickens’s “David Copperfield,” in which a character, named Uriah Heeps, acts subservient to his employer but slyly embezzles his fortune, making not-to-subtle threats against those who could expose this: “Heeps sees.” And what is Mr. Infadelicious doing, with his stupid avatar? Repeating the same old memes and insults he sharpens up by watching Fox News and listening to the radio. Maybe you don’t hang on his every word because you don’t have to: we’re all knowing the kind of thing he will say next. My favorite Dickens novel is “Little Dorritt,” a rags to riches to rags story for our time, certainly better reading than posts like the ones that infadelicious puts up on this website.

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        1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

          Me thinks you see the word through a blind narrow minded tongue. Rags to riches to rags…..LOL Why don’t you give 3/4 of the money you have or don’t have to the poor so that you can also become poor. Especially if you have worked hard to earn it. Guess what Mr. Big Wig….your cesspool is heading right into the diverse headlight of the oncoming socialistic Communist regime. Thank you for making it happen. You have no clue what you are asking for. I understand Communism. If that is what you want. Believe me your getting your wish……right now you think it is going your way….NO MORE RIGHTS… LOL we’ll see.

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          1. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            ..and there it is the “regime” word- I knew it wouldn’t take long with lvfilm and infadelicious here…too funny….ostriches that would prefer to suffocate in the sand than pull their heads out and open their minds and comprehend….

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        2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

          I just imagine that his avatar is really a picture of himself, and that is a jock strap someone tried to use as a gag on his face.

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          1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            yes, russell , i bet you “imagine” that alot. Use someone else in your fantasies. you really are becoming quite creepy .

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          2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Go away, to I-burn-in-hell.com where you will be welcome, and my fantasies will instantly change. Deal?

            You could at least pull the jock out of your mouth, . . . but of course, then we would see what you have really been sucking on. 🙂

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          3. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            I don’t make deals with liars….or vulgar creeps, but!!! I know someone who does………nice picture, isn’t it?

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          4. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            We have been here before. Any “infaridiculous” can lie. As well, anyone with PhotoShop can turn a picture into a lie. So, you are just a “technologically advanced” LIAR. So what!!!

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          5. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            uh oh, byrdie is using lots of exclamation marks! don’t be setting off your hair trigger temper…..calm yourself…remember what the doctor said… no more coo coo for cocoa puffs!! ‘-)

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          6. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

            Why are you out running around through the trailer park today, goober? Sister have another headache?

            You obviously need a job.

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          7. infadelicious October 31, 2013

            that’s very good, keeping fighting for mental health, I know it looks hopeless for you but miracles happen.. shalom

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          8. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            What’s with the constant Hebrew? Are you trying to convince us that you are Jewish in an attempt to mitigate your bigotry or what?

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          9. infadelicious October 31, 2013

            I wish peace on all people especially ones that disagree with me and are so angry that they have to use vulgar language and project their fantasies of bestiality and incest upon others. I really do hope you find peace because i know it must be an awful way to live , so angry and hostile, your brain all confused with sick thoughts. It would seem that each shalom i toss at you is like a scooby snack to an anti semite. What s the big deal? I wished blessings on someone and I was called a faux Christian on this site. Have I said I was Christian or Jewish or Muslim for that matter? why does me wishing you peace offend you so much? that’s not normal. Unlike you I still wish no harm to those i don’t agree with, no matter how racist and bigoted and hostile they may be. shalom aleichem
            bendiciones para usted

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          10. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Now you know full well that we can’t debate you rednecks without talking at least a little about your sister-humpin’ and rooster-lickin’. Those are just the rules — I didn’t make them.

            All I asked was if your were using Hebrew to try to mitigate your bigoted hate. You didn’t need to get your panties in a wad over it. We all know how much weight to give the words of a bigot, so what’s the issue here?

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          11. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            AS I pointed out in earlier post, you are a hypocrite and/or a racist, so you have zero credibility calling anyone names. I am sorry you can not always be right. Just because you say something does not mean it is true. Attempting to silence those who disagree with you by shouting them down or calling them your label of the day will not shut them up. They have their opinion too and every right to speak it. “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” Mark Twain. I noticed a lot of you lefties resort to swearing and/or insults about bestiality and inbreeding when you get your bvd’s in a bunch. This is very telling and obviously those are things you think about a lot. I don’t. So please project your fantasies elsewhere. You cannot find the words to insult me without the use of the same tired old redneck theme? Quite sad really, that your English is that poor. If as you say, “we all know how much weight to give the words of a bigot, so what’s the issue here”? What is the issue here? One, your question doesn’t make sense and two, then why stalk someone who is in your little world a ‘bigot” ? Have a good day, sorry bout the cut in food stamps, you’re a clever lad, you’ll find a cheaper box of wine that you can switch to. Shalom, blessings and tu sei un ipocrita e un razzista

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          12. WhutHeSaid November 1, 2013

            You know, I hadn’t noticed that your English was exceptional until you used the term ‘lad’ which, as far as I know, has only been used in the last 20 years by those creepy old NAMBLA characters.

            I’ve never attempted to silence you or anyone else here. I appreciate free speech. The very opposite could be said for you and you sordid buddies (also NAMBLA, perhaps?), who come out here to pollute this forum with your same tired old lies and bullshit, yet start crying about ‘stalking’ whenever somebody bests you in an argument. You see, I already went to that point debating you on more than one occasion, now didn’t I?

            It’s common knowledge that Tea Party members (a/k/a KKK) are the vilest and most despicable people sucking air on this planet. Everybody knows at least one asshole who they avoid like the plague; a miserable cretin who cheats, lies, steals, and just generally inserts themselves into the lives of other people for no reason other than their own selfish wants. Smiling johnnies who say one thing to one’s face and then work behind your back to cheat, steal, or just create trouble. What drives such people? You tell me — that’s the Tea Party bigot in a nutshell.

            For all of the volumes of bullshit you’ve spilled out here in The National Memo, I don’t believe I’ve ever seen you say anything that wasn’t straight from the tired old Tea Bigot handbook. In fact, I believe that you are none other than the well-known and despised Tea Bigot also known as Obozo, posting under another moniker because everybody is already thoroughly disgusted with you. What do you have to say to that?

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          13. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            You have never bested me in an argument and you are not worthy of having an actual argument with me. I am just stating facts here. Calling someone a vulgar name or swearing at them just shows that at that point YOU HAVE LOST, I take back what I said about you being a clever lad. Your are seemingly quite obtuse. The word lad has many meanings in other countries and is quite common worldwide, sorry it was so terribly confusing for you. You assumed it had the same meaning in my life as it does in your nambla life?I don’t know as much about nambla and their use of specific words, as you apparently do, As for the rest of your latest post, as usual you have made assumptions about my beliefs and as usual insert lies into your post. So to sum up, you are a hypocrite, a racist, an anti semite and a liar. YOU HAVE ZERO CREDIBILITY to call anyone a KKK member for the reasons you are well aware of. You will not address racism coming from one of your own, and merely throw labels out to deflect from your own failings and that of the president. .So it is you who is closer to being KKK. You lefties are quite obsessed with inbreeding, bestiality and pedophelia. wonder why that is.. I guess you have no defense for the clown president so in the face of his blatant lying and incompetence , you just throw out insults.. They don’t bother me, don’t you get that? Of course you don’t..you’re not a clever lad, are you? Kind of a vulgar dullard. have a nice day. Don’t bother replying to me again, you’re just blathering and I have other people to take my truth and sunshine tour to. 😉 I don’t wish anything bad on you, I think the twisted thoughts running through your confused head are probably torment enough.. shalom

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          14. WhutHeSaid November 1, 2013

            Anti-Semite? Hahaha! You have no idea who I am or what my religion might be. You can scour all of my posts — I don’t hide them like some people — and see if you can find a single anti-Semitic statement if you feel so inclined.

            It isn’t unusual to hear a bigot or racist proclaim that they aren’t bigoted or racist — did you think we hadn’t heard that one before? As for your NAMBLA membership, cross-burnings, sister-humping and (of course) the unforgivable things you do with farm animals — the bigot doth protest too much, methinks.

            Your cover is blown, Obozo — fess up!

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          15. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            d w

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          16. WhutHeSaid November 1, 2013

            Well, your English certainly improved with that post.

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          17. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            d w

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          18. idamag November 1, 2013

            He doesn’t know the kluxers hate Jews, too.

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          19. idamag November 1, 2013

            And that is the truth.

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          20. nirodha October 31, 2013

            You’re about the biggest phony ever encountered here, with your shalom shit. Lascia’me in pace, stunod!

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          21. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            Please try to get a better grasp on English before you go on to another language. I know you are upset and just trying to deflect from the 800 lb gorilla in your room. That is, the fact that you did not man up and confront one of your own’s blatant racism yet you throw around the word racist like its confetti if someone didn’t vote for the same guy as you. That makes you a hypocrite at the least and most likely , a racist to boot. You have to look at yourself in the mirror for that one.Choose your party over country even to the detriment of all Americans. You have zero credibility calling me a phony when your hypocrisy and phoniness are still on the Memo for all to see. And it’s quite odd how one word such as shalom or blessings gets so many of you all pissy, perhaps a little anti semitism on your part as well..
            tu sei un ipocrita e un razzista.

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          22. nirodha November 1, 2013

            You do not know me well enough to use the familiar “tu”! You either do not know the customs, or are blatantly arrogant. I suspect both. You may use the pronoun “lei” when addressing anyone you do not know well. Va fanculo!

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          23. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            I may, and will use any words I want, whenever I want. Despite Obozo the liar, it is till a free country, even though YOU and others like you who defend him and your party over your country are destroying the country, I know you well enough to know you are a hypocrite and a racist. I could care less if the phrase I used was totally perfect, it’s not my first language, and obviously not yours, as your phrase was crap also. so until you use a phrase correctly in another language don’t pick mine apart. The message i gave is still the same … you are a hypocrite and a racist for the reasons you are well aware of . I am sorry you do not want to deal with that, as you claim to be such a morally superior person, but your actions or rather nonactions prove the opposite. As for va fanculo? you seem obsessed with this subject and that’s ok, your personal life is your own. Just keep it that way ok? no more projecting your homosexual and/or bestiality fantasies on others. Nice try ignoring your RACISM and HYPOCRISY by throwing out insults, (Alinskyesque deflection does not work on me) but bottom line is you got your bvd’s in a bunch cause you got caught in a big LIE. live with it! Man up or shut up!!! Now take the last word and throw out an insult instead of answering to your hyprocrisy and racism. That makes you a coward too. Have a nice day.

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          24. WhutHeSaid November 1, 2013

            If highlighting the redneck predisposition for sister-humpin’ and sheep-fuckin’ hits you too close to home, then you could try to project a more sunny disposition. That would, of course, mean discarding your current Tea Bigot persona, which is despised by everyone and invites nothing but scorn.

            So it’s really your own personal choice, now isn’t it?

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          25. nirodha November 1, 2013

            I repeat for you, because you are obviously a little slow, IS THAT ALL YOU GOT?

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          26. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            yes, you do repeat yourself a lot. rambling incoherently and throwing out insults to deflect from the fact that you hypocritically ignore your fellow leftist buddy’s racist/anti homosexual slurs on here. So until you can face it and try to overcome why you cannot confront racism in your own party then that is “all I got” for you. That is all you deserve until you can man up! So i repeat to you, man the **** up. shalom

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          27. nirodha November 1, 2013

            I have never made a racist or homophobic comment on this site. You certainly overgeneralize but I guess that is to be expected with an obvious case of arrested development and a limited vocabulary. Case in point, the title of this article certainly applies to you.

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          28. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            why can’t anyone on the left comprehend what they read? i didn’t say that you said it.. reread my last post, and if you can’t understand it there is no helping you. Overgeneralize is not the correct word, but at least you got one post in without swearing.I don’t feel the need you do to have to throw in an insult and a swear word in every post. It doesn’t bother me when you do, I just don’t understand the point. I guess it’s frustration at watching the disaster that is the obama admin unfold daily or something?

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          29. nirodha November 1, 2013

            Read my previous post (if you want to nitpick, I haven’t made my last post just yet…have you?). You have accused me of being a racist in several of your previous posts. You seem to feel that it’s OK for you to insult people; witness you telling whuthesaid that he has Tourette’s syndrome. That’s cruel and unfeeling to actual sufferers of Tourette’s. And yes, I am frustrated at the ignorance evidenced by this wonderful country of ours failing to adopt single payer healthcare.

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          30. infadelicious November 1, 2013

            that was my “last” post? hello? are you using the same English as me? last also means “latest”. seriously? do you have a dictionary? OMG! And i KNOW you don’t want to talk about my insults as compared to whuthesaid’s towards me. You picked a real swell guy to defend there. Why does he bash people who happen to live in trailor parks? Are they less human? Some live there because that’s all they can afford. He insinuates they are trashy and the result of inbreeding. I won’t get into his joking about nambla and beastiality which is thoroughly disgusting and is cruel to victims of pedophilia and animal cruelty. So that is just deflection again. I will just agree to disagree with you. You can’t stay on topic and you don’t even know the meaning of a simple word like “last” and how it is used. wow! .Have a great weekend.

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          31. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Take the jock out of your mouth before you get a rash. You can talk about hair trigger temper all you want. Your lies do not bother me personally. I just hate you for being an evil trolling freak. That simple.

            What you have in your bowl that you mistake for Cocoa Puffs is something that previously came from the hind end of a goat. You are just too stupid to know the difference.

            And again, so what!!!

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          32. infadelicious October 31, 2013

            HTT Byrdie: you are obsessed with jockstraps and the hind end of goats.. it really isn’t normal. When combined with your hair trigger temper and tourette’s it really isn’t pretty. Have a nice day.

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          33. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Self portrait, huh. You are everything I expected. Now we know why you wear the jock strap over your mouth.

            Actually, infa-ridiculous, you are the one that is obsessed. What kind of man harasses other people for entertainment? Why do you come here when you do not even read the articles? Is this all you have to do in life? Apparently, you are the one that “really isn’t normal.”

            I come here to read the ideas of others, and learn. You come here to troll and disrupt, and tell your lies. I only post to you because you are such a trolling d*ck. You will not find me trolling the right-wing groups, though on a rare occasion I will visit one to remind myself of how bat-crap crazy they are. But I do not troll as you do. That is the only reason you come here. To troll. What kind of life do you have anyway? Now tell us some more whoppers about that.

            I do not have an hair trigger, nor do I have Tourette’s. I think you have more fittingly described yourself. Yet, regardless, at the end of the day, you will still be a lying, disrupting, troll.

            As I said before, though your reading skills are abysmal, ” . . . anyone with PhotoShop can turn a picture into a lie. So, you are just a “technologically advanced” LIAR. So what!!!”

            And your fascination with human bodily functions is quite disturbing. . . .

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          34. infadelicious October 31, 2013

            so glad you’re tourette’s and temper condition haven’t flared up early this am. it is quite odd how you stalk me at times. And sorry puddin pop, you’re the one who brought up goat droppings and jockstraps. It’ s part of what is really wrong with you. you have trouble focusing. You need to quit stalking people and stay strong while you fight for mental health. I know it looks hopeless for you, but miracles happen. 😉

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          35. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            I have never stalked you, you little sissy. I come here to read the articles, and as I have told you many, many, many times, I only bully BULLIES. If you were not here, you would be unlikely to even hear from me. If you had made a good faith effort to respectfully disagree, then you could have gone in peace.

            When have been through this again and again, your idiot pecker and jock strap over the mouth avatar, sets a tone of disrespect before you open you idiot mouth. Which is exactly what you intend. You only came here to disrupt, not add anything useful.

            So, sissies like you should be careful when you bend over to pick up something in a room full of your sock-puppet masters. They will not even give you a little “grease.”

            AND, for the record, I have won everyone of these conversations, regardless of the fact that I see that as unimportant. What is important, is that you always lose. . . .

            Face it, I am keeping you engaged, making zero progress on anything while you waste your time. You have been told so many times that it proves your mental incompetence and serious mental illness. I am only posting to bully a BULLY. Therefore, you will never get what you really want and you will always be a little sissy loser. Have a real bad day. 🙂

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          36. infadelicious October 31, 2013

            my idiot pecker and jock strap avatar? why are you calling obama a “pecker” bwaaa haaaa haaaaa… and my! oh my! you are obsessed with sodomy aren’t you? You keep steering your comments in the direction of sodomy and bestiality. It is really quite disturbing and telling at the same time. As far as wasting my time, i choose to be here to bring some truth and sunshine to you folks. I will sometimes reply to you only to straighten you out again. you are all so angry and bitter that you were duped not once, but twice. It’s all coming apart for obozo, so i understand why you are so easy to set off into a grand mal hair trigger temper hissy fit, i feel sorry for you that ‘s the only reason i grace you with a reply once in a while..you are not worthy. buck up, 2014 is coming soon. And now, you are boring me to tears, so I will be off to make comments wherever and whenever your type needs to be shown the truth. yes, wherever and whenever……..stalk me if you choose, you’ll be talking (mumbling incohorently ) to yourself today…….. that’s not unusual though. 😉
            bendiciones para ustedes

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          37. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Spin it anyway you like, your avatar is, well, you. Regardless, of who you try to defame. Your Tourette’s is showing through. 🙂

            There is nothing about you that is straight. You cannot straighten out anyone. Even then, LYING does not convince me of anything. At the end of the day, you will still be a lying, bullying, disrupting, racist, troll. Now post another idiot cartoon. I can even do that better than you. 🙂

            And yes, 2014 is coming. We Democrats cannot hurry it along enough. We can’t wait for what is going to happen.

            What will happen if we are as vicious and evil as your mob? When your gerrymandering fails, which it soon will, what happens if we righteously do it to you criminals, in return? There will be no Repub influence, anywhere.

            You are the one that is mentally ill. No one believes one word of your malarkey. In fact, we both know that you only exist to disrupt with your mentally deranged blather. You’re the Jeffrey Dahmer of blogs.

            So, I triggered another exodus by you. Like I said, you can never win with me. So how much time did you waste making no impression at all?

            Blessings from your master Satan? Sorry, I don’t want them. . . . 🙂

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          38. nirodha October 31, 2013

            Russ: this sorry excuse for a member of the human race has a number of readily identifiable psychiatric problems, including a deep-seated inferiority complex that requires him to constantly belittle others from a distance. He needs to do this in order to justify his existence to himself. He most likely has very little in the way of a psychic support system, so he comes here to prove to himself that he is alive. He is innately a coward, because he would not dare to actually say what he spouts here to anyone in person. He knows that he would be severely beaten and possibly killed. This forum serves as a kind of sick therapy for him. He’s more to be pitied than scorned. I have scorned him on several occasions, though, by advising him to go fuck himself, eat shit and die.

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          39. idamag November 1, 2013

            Wouldn’t be much of a support system owyat thar in the boonies.

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          40. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            You spoke exactly the truth.

            BUT should we be telling him to go fuck himself and eat shit. Think of the size of the litter he might produce if he doesn’t actually die. Gives me chills to think of them scampering around. Uhhh. . . 🙂

            Sorry, I was a little tardy in reading my mail, but your post was worth answering. Again, it was spot on.

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    2. Tom_D44 October 30, 2013

      Um, you forgot……”and a media that lies, and corruption that runs rampant through government on both sides, and people who are generally misinformed or completely uninformed or don’t even care to be informed, and a society who cow tows to political correctness rather than principles.”

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      1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

        yes, I could have added all that but didn’t want to “spike the ball” or overwhelm the dullards 😉

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        1. Wellstone October 30, 2013

          You forgot the part about where we are ruled by a Kenyan Marxist Muslim Tyrant who eats dogs, and who voted 18 times to have the brains sucked out of babies. While he was community-organizing the Black Panthers and killing Americans in Benghazi.

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          1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Now your talking;)

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          2. MerryMarjie October 30, 2013

            Now “your” not spelling right!

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          3. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            You posted that, NOT me!!! And your buddies are so stupid they UPVOTED it.bwaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa! The only fact based part of your post was that obozo ate dog..not sure about the abortion thing so i won’t comment on that, but you will! I thought he mostly voted “present”… who cares? you do!!! you brought those things up! He’s botched enough things while in office, i don’t need to make things up. I agreed with Toms post above “and a media that lies, and corruption that runs rampant through government on both sides, and people who are generally misinformed or completely uninformed or don’t even care to be informed, and a society who cow tows to political correctness rather than principles.” he is correct, and all of you upvoted him solely on the fact that he replied to me and you probably didn’t read it, you just assumed it was something I disagree with or that it was an insult towards me. I will upvote someone’s post if i agree with it even if i disagree with their choice in the last election. That is the difference between you and others in here who vote for your party blindly before what you actually believe in. That is called being a useful idiot or a koolaid drinking sheep.

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          4. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            Wellstone was being sarcastic you dimwit…..

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          5. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            Elisabeth, you need to get a babysittter and get out and talk to some adults. I did realize that he was being sarcastic. Trust me, i know sarcasm. Why would he repeat those things that other people said? to get you guys all riled up and it worked. kinda stupid really. I never said any of those things, he did and you guys ;upvoted him on .that is stupid also.. wow! you are desperate to “trap me ” into something you can mock.. : what is your obsession with me? is it because you apologized to me before for jumping down my throat in error? i said thank you..i was surprised. I never mentioned it again until today. sheesh! you can’t move on can ya? You jumped on me again the other day and i called you on it………you disappeared…I let it go. I really don’t care. if I make a mistake or spelling error, and you catch it , does it make you feel better?would it even the score for you somehow? Hear I wil mispelll evvery wooord in thiz zentence. Mock me on that. we’re even ok? Is that what you’re teaching your children”?: how to get even? Break the cycle Elisabeth. have a nice day. hope you find something better to do with your time than even the score with people you call “dimwits”.

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          6. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            We’re talking politics here…and clearly most of us disagree with yours….that’s all…if ya can’t take the heat….etc etc – and thanks, but I get out plenty.

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          7. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            you were not talking politics,you were trying to insult me and also called me a dimwit, a clear sign that you had lost the argument. So I will have nothing further to say to you after this post. Now I will apologize to you for wasting your time trying to explain anything about an entire thread and how you have spun it faster than a whirling dervish into a ball of crap you call facts, when you clearly can barely comprend what you are reading in front of you in one post. You lost. PERIOD! see I said PERIOD! like the president does so it is true. Again, I beg you, please do NOT homeschool your beautiful baby. Give him/her a chance.

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          8. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            You said that very thing the other day. Perhaps you forget my response…it is the fright wing that home schools their children, so please don’t. Better yet, don’t breed.

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          9. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            I did say the same thing the other day Elisabeth, i was being sarcastic, like Wellstone, remember? and both times ..zoooooooooom! right over your head. Homeschooling would mean that YOU would be the teacher..and THAT would be sad…almost as sad as you having the gall to call someone else a dimwit. I tried to be nice but after you apologized and slinked away, you just had to come back all angry and spittin’ sparks ………it’s not normal Elisabeth. I still think you have a beautiful baby and wish you both well.;-)

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          10. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            I find it difficult to take you seriously, especially when you drag Obama’s family into your rants regarding your ideology….most intelligent people do not drag the children or spouses of those they disagree with into the argument…it’s tacky and unnecessary…

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          11. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            yes, still trying to find things that offend you.. you are lying again. I don’t recall mentioning their children. . I mention the first lady, and mock her because she puts herself out there and does actually represent the USA with her husband. So she should try to act with a little dignity, The above picture and many others display anything but dignity. And you saying that I did or said something is the same as Wellstone repeating lies and insults about the president that I never said in my post either. So, quit putting things into my posts that were not there, thank you very much. So last post today to you. Take the last word Elisabeth, rant and rave and call me names, I just ask that you don’t lie while doing so. have a good nite

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          12. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

            CAN YOU SAY “PHOTO-SHOP”

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          13. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            It appears you are lying again. You have proven again, and again, that you cannot be trusted to tell the truth.

            DO YOU EVER POST ON-TOPIC? Of course not, you came to disrupt, lie, and troll. Therefore, with your god-like aura, you can do anything you want.

            I really wonder sometimes, if you are just so mentally deficient, that you do not know the difference.

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          14. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            🙂

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          15. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

            He really doesn’t get a choice there. Not counting the sheep, of course.

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          16. idamag November 1, 2013

            They home school their children because they don’t hold with that learning stuff.

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          17. MerryMarjie October 30, 2013

            Well put! Oh, of course, he also was given the Nobel Peace Prize in error, and his wife is a pushy-pathetic who is “uppity.” (I just hate the criticism about Michelle Obama!)

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          18. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            I know! Michelle got it goin’ on………

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          19. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            You really seem quite enamored over this picture — what’s up with that? You wouldn’t be playing the video while twerking in a pink tutu, now would you?

            You know, every time I slap down one of you rednecks I almost feel a twinge of guilt because God clearly put you on this Earth for amusement — and perhaps to warn the rest of us about the heartbreak of inbreeding.

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          20. nirodha October 31, 2013

            This Infant dude WAS put here for our amusement. It’s kind of fun for a little while to pull his chain, but it gets boring pretty quickly because his repertoire is so limited as to be quite predictable. So, on to greener pastures!

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          21. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Yeah, it’s kind of like watching somebody shit on the wall: At first it’s rather amazing in a sick kind of way, but after that it gets old right quick. Infidelicious is The National Memo’s very own turd on the wall, I guess.

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          22. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Jealousy is an ugly thing, you know.

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        2. highpckts October 30, 2013

          Dullards??? I, for one, am a little bored with your questioning anyone’s intelligence because they don’t see things the “right” way! Some of us are Independents and see both sides but the Right have really gone out of their way to prove how much damage one party can do and without the guts to get rid of the extreme wing of their own party! Any one party that lets extreme views take over the majority of its’ party should know they can’t play without paying!!

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          1. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            “infaridiculous” once posted that they were going to take over the Repub party entirely, and then impose their will (as they pleased) on the entire nation. It was one of the few times he really made me angry, because he is out-right treasonous.

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    3. adler56 October 30, 2013

      You’re one of the ones in America missing a brain or just not using one.

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    4. Jim Myers October 30, 2013

      Oh, You mean Bush the Second, right?

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      1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

        Jim, must you always be a bottom feeder? by the time you sashay in to reply , the subject has been so far spun by your buddies (deflection to avoid answering) that your reply is DOA. I’ve seen some of your past posts, white guilt combined with racism is even uglier than racism alone. Keep being a “useful idiot” maybe they ‘ll toss you an upvote.

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        1. Jim Myers October 30, 2013

          I am trying to wean myself off of responding to idiots on the right, but this comment just BEGGED for a response.

          The reason I didn’t reply immediately to your insane comment is that I do not live to simply read and reply to your comments, or any one else who writes, conservative or liberal.

          I actually try to have a life, or at least some semblance of one.

          So, I am wasting less and less time on this, and other blog sites.

          You may choose to spend all of your time ranting your insane blather, and try to goad the progressives on this blog with your version of truthful intercourse.

          One other thing. I have no guilt about being white. Nor do I expect anyone of color to bear any guilt for the color of their skin or the shade of their complexion. That is merely an accident of birth.

          I do not care about their Religion.

          Or their gender. (Although, I admit to having a fascination for the females of our species.)

          I do not care about their sexual orientation.

          Or, even their political bent.

          I have better things to do.

          Have a great day.

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          1. infadelicious October 30, 2013

            I am glad you have better things to do, because you’re not very good at this. Good luck in your “better things to do”.. Shalom Jim 🙂

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    5. holyreality October 30, 2013

      I fully expect lying to be in the job description for a POTUS.

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    6. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

      BUT it will be open . . . and you will still be a disgusting troll and liar. 🙂

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  2. Dominick Vila October 30, 2013

    Facts are nothing more than an irksome obstacle for those who put their personal goals ahead of what is best for us as a nation. The fact that the Federal government deficit has been cut by about 60%, during one of the most ominous economic periods in U.S. history since the Great Depression, and without impacting defense or social programs critical to the well being of tens of millions Americans, is of little interest to those who reach conclusions based on what deceiving talking heads like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Coulter and others tell them. I have relatives and friends who, unashamedly, claim that raising the debt ceiling would be carte blanche for Obama to spend more money than he already has. Does anybody really think that facts, such as the one highlighted in this article, will make a difference? If the Tea Party says the common cold was spread by President Obama, his supporters will say Amen and run with it.

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    1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

      Dominick
      if tomorrow President Obama gets up in front of the microphone and says the following
      ” It is ridiculous that the richest country in the world is spending more money that we received in taxes and duties and our debt continues to grow. It is time we review our tax system to make progressive, simple and fair, It is time we review how much, and in what we spend in Defense, it is time we review our federal bureaucracy and coordinate with the states about who does what to avoid duplication of efforts, this may lead to some departments being reduced or eliminated” It is time we also review all our entitlement programs as we all know we are spending far too much money in them, we will help those in need, but we request those receiving help to actively look for a job, do volunteer work and be willing to submit to random drug testing.
      Lawyers and frivolous law suits are paralyzing industry and adding cost to everything we buy ” it is time to implement tort reform”

      i wonder how many of his supporters will still back him up. Or they see their gravy train also in jeopardy.

      I on my side will support this “hope and change” 100%

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      1. Dominick Vila November 1, 2013

        President Obama’s proposal to raise the tax rate of those earning over $250K a year implicitly admits that the Federal government outlays exceed revenues.
        The DoD budget has been reduced, largely by bringing the Iraq crusade to an end, and by eliminating or reducing the scope of several DoD programs, such as the F22. Additional spending reductions will be realized when we pull out of Afghanistan. Significant changes are taking place in our Armed Forces including mergers of functional units that used to function independently, and by reducing the number of contractors, to further reduce spending without jeopardizing our national security.
        The Federal government workforce has been reduced by over 700,000 civil servants since President Obama’s inauguration.
        Entitlement programs – such as Social Security and MEDICARE – are paid for with taxes dedicated specifically to fund those programs. The Federal government promised benefits in exchange for those taxes, and those who contributed into those programs their entire professional lives and continue to contribute after they retire by paying hefty MEDICARE fees, are “entitled” to get what we paid for. Think of the insurance policies you sell, people pay premiums in exchange for certain types of coverage and when the time comes they are “entitled” to collect the benefits or services they paid for.
        Welfare reform took place in the Clinton era, but much remains to be done. There is no question that a lot of people are faking illnesses, disability, and all sorts of problems to take advantage of existing government programs to collect benefits they do not deserve and often do not need. I would modify our social programs by adding a job placement department that tells questionable recipients where a job is available. I would let them slide once, maybe twice, the third time they would be out of the program and on their own.
        Frivolous lawsuits are one of many contributing factors for out of control medical costs, and it is an issue that deserves to be addressed. Interestingly, all the people I know who have sued, not only healthcare providers but people involved in minor car accidents and questionable construction problems, are Republicans! Admittedly, this may be because I live in a heavily Republican district.
        Unfortunately, there is only so much an administration can do during its tenure. President Obama has tackled more controversial issues than any former president, in spite of the huge economic problem he inherited, and in spite of the constant attacks he has been subjected to. The next is likely to be over immigration law reform. Hopefully the next Democratic president, who is likely to be elected by a super majority in 2016, will tackle some of the issues you mentioned and many more.

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  3. Eleanore Whitaker October 30, 2013

    The real problem isn’t ignorant Americans. At no other time in US history have Americans been more informed. The real problem is WHO is doing the informing…a bunch of media titans of the right with a paranoid obsession to rule the rest of us on our dimes. We know the deficit isn’t the issue. We know that healthcare reform was an absolute necessity. We know that corporate welfare is at an all time high. We know that we are not responsible constitutionally to provide massive support in the billions to corporations. We know that we do not have to pay Big Oil spill fines for Big Oil.

    We also know that the GOP has deliberately prepared a back room agenda guaranteed to divide the country into the smallest possible dictatorship that would resemble a Goldman Sach board room meeting of masters of the financial universe.

    The reality is that the right wing is not substantially capable of completing the job of destroying our democracy as they are salivating over doing. These extremists exists not for the destruction of government; but, to solely prove their master talents for destruction. Neurotic sociopaths are all too dangerous. They wear one radical appearing outer skin that hides the evil inner skin of hate and destruction.

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    1. cpbis October 30, 2013

      We need to understand that the public does not know or want to know the information (including your info). They are led by the far right, big business and hatred of Obama. The public, with all that is available to them, could care less. They only believe what they want to believe. Facts do not matter to them.

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      1. highpckts October 30, 2013

        I gotta tell ya! I was discussing some of this with my dughter, who is 38!, and she didn’t even know what the ACA was nor anything about the debt and deficit! This is a fairly well to do family but too busy to be “bothered” with the details! I don’t push it but how sad! They vote but God knows for what due to the fact they don’t choose to be informed!!

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        1. TZToronto October 30, 2013

          I was telling my wife the other day that probably 40% of the U.S. population doesn’t even know what ACA is (or that it exists), and they certainly don’t know that they have to get health insurance if they don’t already have it. Many have no idea what’s been going on in Washington with the debt ceiling and the shutdown. There’s probably a large part of the population who don’t know who the VP is, a smaller part who don’t know who the President is. There’s a huge chunk of the population that have never heard of Benghazi and know nothing about the Arab Spring. There’s one heartening thing, though. Most of those who are so dreadfully uninformed don’t vote–they don’t even know when the election is or that they have to be registered. And they don’t know what the Tea Party is. . . . For them, ignorance is bliss.

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          1. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            Most, if not all the people you portray in your babble are without a doubt democrats and liberals.

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          2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            While you are undoubtedly just stupid. . . . 🙂

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          3. idamag November 1, 2013

            I think you got it.

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          4. BillP November 1, 2013

            Russell you know the old phrase “better to remain silent and thought dumb than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt. That’s what Richard Holmes has done

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          5. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            You don’t know stupid until you look at your reflection in the mirror and talk to yourself.

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          6. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            Isn’t it just odd, that you freaks are always trying to prove we’re right.

            Hey Bill! I gotta correct you. It’s not dumb, it is flat stupid.

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          7. BillP November 2, 2013

            Russell I always like when you hit a chord with these trolls. Holmes reply above was so harsh it must have taken him all of the 9 hours to come up with it. You are correct it’s more that dumb it’s flat out stupid.

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          8. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            Thanks Bill, as always, I can be a little rude, but it’s all in good fun. It’s hard to resist when you have material like little Dick.

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          9. idamag November 3, 2013

            I don’t think anything holmes says will go down in history.

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          10. Russell Byrd November 3, 2013

            That’s truth in advertising! I think this Holmes had better find a Watson to help him wipe his own rear.

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          11. Russell Byrd November 3, 2013

            But I bet Homes will go d…… Guess I shouldn’t say that.

            He does need a Watson to help him get a clue.

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          12. idamag November 3, 2013

            And, do an excellent job of it.

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          13. BillP November 2, 2013

            Gee that remark hurt so badly. Did it take you all of the 13 hours to come up with such a biting reply? I give up I can’t fight such an intellect who comes backs are so insightful. Please take it easy on me.

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          14. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            ROTFL, even after a couple of hours. 🙂

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          15. idamag November 3, 2013

            Speaking from experience?

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          16. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            Not quite as stupid as you. In fact a rock has a higher IQ than you.

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          17. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            Oddly, for a rock, you do not look that smart. Oh yeah, you’re a lump, not a rock. 🙂

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          18. idamag November 3, 2013

            And, dear child, you have the official test results of Russell’s MMPI, conducted by a psychologist, so you can make that determination.BTW, Don’t you think people think you are nuts for conducting mental tests on rocks?

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          19. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Pssst….you may want to know that I just saw your sister sneak out the back of the trailer in her best T-shirt — I think she might be cheating on you. Hurry!

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          20. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            That’s cruel, but oh so funny . . . and probably true! 🙂

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          21. idamag November 5, 2013

            If his sister looks like him, she would have to sneak out when it was pitch black outside.

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          22. TZToronto October 31, 2013

            Sadly, ignorance knows no politics. When you look at large chunks of the population, you’re bound to get people of all stripes.

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          23. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Is that the elusive yeti that we all are looking for? I bet he smells as “ugly” as he looks.

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          24. Patrick Jackson October 31, 2013

            I guess because you are a liberal it gives you the right to insult people. You are such a hypocrite.

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          25. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Why don’t you go suck on that piece of sh*t Richard Holmes. I bet you smell just as bad as he does.

            The topic here is supposed to be:

            It’s Hard To Run A Democracy With An Ignorant Public

            How about, here are four of Big Dick’s “on-topic” posts chosen randomly:

            obamboo hasn’t got to the point of armed conflict, yet. obooboo is leading America into communism. If you think it isn’t happening you are the stupidest dolt that ever drew a breath

            You are another total idiot that believes everything that the liar in chief spews out of his facial anal hole.

            Liberals are told by their puppet masters what to think.

            obooboy darkie, maybe can’t really be sure on that, usurper, liar, crook, muslim, communist. (hee-hee!) How do you feel now?
            ———–
            Now I bet you agree with old Dickie, and are a racist, bigot, bullying troll, and probably a liar as well. (It fits the pattern.) BUT, if you are going to post that way here, you should expect reciprocation. And just in case, that big ole word “reciprocation” means we are going to do it back to you. 🙂

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          26. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            They are at least showing us the level of ignorance in the public.

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          27. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Doesn’t it seem so ironic, that with a topic like this one, they are falling over themselves to prove the point? 🙂

            I was a little harsh, I guess, but it has been a long day made longer by dealing with all the idiots.

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          28. Sand_Cat November 1, 2013

            Nah, you were too polite by far.

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          29. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            Yeah, but I have the misfortune to have an overworked conscience AND a wicked sense of humor. Good on, good off, evil on, evil off, good on, good off, evil on …………………. oops.

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          30. idamag November 1, 2013

            And Patty and Rickie just proves how hard it is.

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          31. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            We are talking about an ignorant public. That is precisely why your name was voiced. You are the leader of the ignorant. You are an old dick. A stupid old dick.

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          32. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            Geez, DICK, the old saying that I think of when I hear you is, “all cock and no balls.” Seems to fit you to a “Tea.”

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          33. BillP November 2, 2013

            Patrick you obliviously don’t read many of the right troll comments where they call people morons, idiots, communists and other names. They use juvenile name calling and comments like “lame stream media” to reply to challenges.

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          34. Patrick Jackson November 3, 2013

            It does not matter if you are right, left or in the middle. I just find it hard to believe that people post such offensive posts about people they do not know. And sorry but liberals in my humble conservative opinion are the first to get personal. But this is only my opinion, you certainly have the right to your opinion.

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          35. BillP November 4, 2013

            Patrick I appreciate your reply it in my opinion it has been the conservatives like Bozo and infadelicious who have started the name calling. To me name calling doesn’t enhance an argument.

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          36. Patrick Jackson November 4, 2013

            Perhaps you are correct Bill. I did not read all the posts leading to the one I replied to. I simply do not understand all the name calling and insults I see on todays public sites. I guess being 60 and working 36 years as an engineer didn’t expose me to a world where people say these things without having to look each other in the eye. I believe both parties were being childish. Anyway, thanks for the civil response.
            Pat

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          37. BillP November 4, 2013

            Patrick you were civil in your comments too. Most times I will ignore the name calling because the sender is acting in a juvenile manner. I do agree with you in that this is a different kind of world where people can hide behind alias and fake pictures while making snide remarks. I have replied to liberal commenters on this site when they have called conservatives or tea party people nazis or other unwarranted names. Like you I’m 62yo and prefer civil debates.

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          38. idamag November 5, 2013

            I think many of them are white supremists trolling for new members.

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          39. mwh191 October 31, 2013

            Agreed, but would add that many don’t know they need to get insurance, until they need it! Then so many learn quickly about the exclusions of junk policies and denial of claims inherent in cheapo policies. And then when they learn it’s too late . . . . they’ve already become a burden on the rest of us.

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          40. akindependent October 31, 2013

            A friend at work insisted that the Constitution requires 60 Senate votes to pass a bill. That’s a failure of the press to call a filibuster a filibuster EVERY SINGLE TIME.

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          41. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            Unfortunately we now how faux news instead of real news.

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          42. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            All the lame stream media is just communist propaganda garbage outlets.

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          43. TZToronto November 1, 2013

            The Constitution does not specify a particular number of Senate votes to pass a bill. It certainly is not sixty because there were not sixty Senate votes available when the Constitution was ratified. The only quantity of votes specified in the Constitution refers to over-riding a veto and confirming a Presidential nomination (i.e., two-thirds).

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          44. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            I wish I didn’t know what the tea potty is.

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          45. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            The Tea Party isn’t Anti-American communist democrats. Enough said!

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          46. idamag November 3, 2013

            So, like all immature people, you spout rhetoric. I can see what you are by the picture of you with your mouth drooping open and your hair in your eyes.

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          47. idamag November 4, 2013

            Republicans, more like fascists than communists. They don’t accept Democracy and the Democratic vote. They are bullies and you are not smart nor good looking. Maybe you can find a picture of someone who is not slack jawed and looking through his hair to use as an avatar.

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          48. Richard Holmes November 4, 2013

            Well you dog faced mangy mutt, maybe I’ll use a picture of your trashy wife.

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          49. idamag November 1, 2013

            And they are not even aware of how Democracy works. The ACA was passed by a 2/3 majority in both the house and senate. It was signed by the president and upheld by the Supreme Court. It is a law. The smart thing to do now is to let get fully implemented and if it does not work by 2016, repeal it. To keep fighting it shows just how anti-Democracy and anti_government these subversive t party people are.

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          50. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            BUT, it was so unfair, because the Pubs weren’t allowed to gerrymander the ACA vote. What is the country coming to!? Sob, p*ss, moan, scream, tantrum, pout, sob, sob, WAHHHH!

            🙂

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          51. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            The government does not have the power to make anyone buy anything they do not want. This aca is a shill. You dolts that think this is so great will find out that you were duped into a freedom stripping scheme disguised as health care reform. “Reform” is a favorite word of the communists. They use it to make you think what they are doing to you is for your own good. They are stealing your freedoms one little step at a time. Wake up before you are made a slave.

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          52. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            So corrupt is a good word for you. Maybe, your Kock biter friends that made that freaky commercial will send their creepy Uncle Sam over and stick that speculum in you in an appropriate orifice.

            Define communism Dickie. That is easily obtainable from one of those things called a book. I know that they are scary and uncool, and hard to understand, but the knowledge is in there.
            🙂

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          53. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            I can find it in a book. Can you? I take it for granted that you can read words with more than five letters. You probably cant because you attended a worthless liberal run school. Sorry for you, russy.

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          54. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            You can find it in a book? Really? You sure cannot organize or relate coherent thoughts. You say you know I can read five letter words and then you say that I can’t. Not the sign of an organized mind, Dickie.

            Education, and truth, and fact are by their very nature, liberal. Education teaches you how to learn. So, schools are liberal, unless tainted by right-wing extortion.

            Truth means what is true. Fact, means what is factual. Not your right-wing, me first spin. Of course, as a spoiled brat of a racist, bully, self-important fat boy wannabe, your education probably consisted of being able to swallow off a spoon, all the right-wing hate and malarkey from a bottle labeled “Poison, Pure, Grade A.” It shows through on you. The lack of original thought alone exposes you. Your kind loves bullying those that have the least and cannot defend themselves, but you roll over and do it doggie style when the right-wing money comes rolling in.

            So, I do not feel the least little bit sorry for you. After all, you want to be a Big Dick.

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          55. idamag November 3, 2013

            cant is a form of worship.

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          56. idamag November 3, 2013

            He is just a loud, misinformed person who never learned to have a two-way conversation. He didn’t study government in school or he doesn’t believe in Democracy (Meaning government of the people). His avatar shows a dumb looking individual who should grow up.

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          57. idamag November 3, 2013

            No we, the government, cannot force you to buy anything. It is a choice. You can either buy insurance or pay the fine. As far as the deadbeats who do not purchase insurance and go to the emergency room for medical care: Every $2500 you spend, on medical care, $800 of that goes to pay for those who can’t or won’t.

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          58. Richard Holmes November 4, 2013

            The ACA will add11 million illegal aliens to the debt by giving them FREE health care, paid for by tax dollars. Plus for those that can’t afford the ACA policies, the government will give subsidies to help, with tax dollars. How sweet of this obammy, communist regime.

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        2. dpaano October 30, 2013

          Yeah, that’s the usual scenario…..but I think that people in the U.S., especially the middle class, are slowly learning what’s going on with our elected politicians. It’s sad, however, that someone your daughter’s age isn’t aware of what’s being done….apparently she doesn’t read a newspaper or listen to any news. Sad!

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        3. plc97477 October 31, 2013

          I talked a friend into voting for Obama simply by explaining what was in the ryan budget.

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      2. dpaano October 30, 2013

        I don’t think the facts matter to the Republicans either…..they seem to think that the CBO lies! I can’t understand why reasonably intelligent people (you’d think) can’t seem to understand when given proven facts! I can understand the low-information people in the U.S., but certainly not our senators and congress people….they should be aware of the truth, but I guess they just don’t want to hear it or believe it! They must live in an alternate universe somewhere far, far away! Or at least, I wish they did!

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        1. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

          Your facts have been proven to be outright lies. You know this yet you blindly follow the butcher to the slaughter house.

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          1. DennisRL October 30, 2013

            this guy is obviously not reasonable or intelligent. This is your typical right wing response to anything they don’t like. It must be a lie. How could it be anything else. They can’t think for themselves and can only follow blindly what others tell them on fox or right wing radio. The difference between people on the left and right is independent thinking. The people on the left are capable of intelligent comment. The people on the right are only capable of name calling and insults. I’ve yet to hear anyone on the right have one wit of a constructive idea about anything.

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          2. idamag November 1, 2013

            I am willing to listen to both sides if the other party is well-informed enough to put facts out there to consider. However, the quick to call names discounts them right away.

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          3. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            My, my, another moronic sloganista.

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          4. MVH1 October 31, 2013

            Since he presented no facts on anything in particular, I have to assume you are an angst-filled teenager.

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker October 31, 2013

            Richard Holmes…Twerpie Generation bois like you can’t admit that people older than you will ALWAYS have more wisdom AND more experience. Hurts that tender hinny doesn’t it? First of all, I NEVER post anything I can’t prove in a court of law. Can YOU say the same? Your generation lives in a world of leaching onto McParents, living in basements which is your only social life or spending your days texting until your gills are green. The outright lies you redneck state hicks all try to prove CAN’T be proven in a court of law which is the only place that facts and truth CAN be proven. Enough of your unintelligent Twerpie Generation efforts to reinvent US history and current events.

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          6. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            It is my basement I live in as well as the rest of the house. Just how old are you miss elly? How old do you think I am? I have worked all my life from age 14. When did you start work? When you had children and tried to raise them as good little brainwashed liberal communists? Liberals are doing their best to rewrite history at every chance. All that comes out of a liberals’ mouth is lies or regurgitated babble. all the facts are right in front of your face yet you rather listen to the Devil in chiefs’ lies and sell your soul into hell.

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          7. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            Unfortunately democrats are not as easy to scare as repugs. You will have to do better than that.

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    2. lvfilm October 30, 2013

      Redistribution of wealth, right wing media? Who’s shooting who in the foot here? BIG MEDA is being run by liberals. I think both sides are being fed the same hogwash…… You think you are the winners but soon to be loosers in this end game because you are helping send all of us down into the tank. If anyone is being hoodwinked its you. I think you all need to think about what you are insighting instead of falling for false idols. Think for yourself. We the Sheeple comes to mind…..as does Communism. Do some research. Look it up…..or maybe that is what your intention is. Ignorance IS bliss. Think about it…..no more freedom…..and all because of your belief in a false idol. Divide and conquer…..that is their intention and it is working.

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      1. mah101 October 30, 2013

        Are we supposed to understand what you are talking about? I see terms like “communism”, phrases like “big media being run by liberals” and “we the sheeple” but I really have no idea what your point is.

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        1. asiaman496 October 30, 2013

          Don’t be concerned because they do not have a point…
          Their “facts” are mostly fictitious

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          1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Really, like I just said ‘living the experience invokes fact not fiction. My family lived under the Communist regime in Europe. Even though my parents immigrated to the US ‘legally,’ I grew hearing about Communism because of what I heard and saw (when I visited Europe in the 70’s). This wonderful regime that you all hold so dearly is purely leading to Communism. If that is the way you really want to live and that means giving up ALL your freedoms…..so be it. Plain and simple it is a fact in the making:)

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          2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            So, you are “tax payer” in another guise. The stench is unmistakeable. Still a lump of snot, if you ask me.

            America is not Communist and does not resemble Communism at all. We both know that. Your angst is over something that is much more personal. You want everything your way, but you do not want Americans to thrive.

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          3. Sand_Cat October 30, 2013

            For someone who proclaims us to be dupes and ignorant, you show an astonishing ignorance of reality. Your claim about our “regime” which is “purely leading to Communism” is contradicted and completely discredited by a survey of history. I may have missed one, but every communist regime in the world – excepting the short-lived “Marxist” Allende in Chile – was installed by either violent revolution or foreign invasion. Most of them had governments of the type you seem to favor: indifferent to the welfare of their citizens and wildly paranoid about what those citizens – especially the poorest or otherwise most despised – were planning. All of your postings here smack of the blind and incoherent fanaticism I once heard on the radio from a former citizen of Hungary in response to the quiet and respectful suggestion by a Chilean citizen that the US had no right to overthrow the elected government of his country and install a murderous regime in its place. This made the caller to the radio program so apoplectic that he was literally unable to speak. I might add that I have not studied it closely, but my impression is that Hungary was one of the more enthusiastic supporters of the Nazis and Italian Fascists prior to the Soviet arrival in response to a wholly unprovoked (at least against Germany or Italy) invasion.
            The countries of Western Europe have “regimes” far more advanced along the path the US has barely set foot on with extreme (and I do mean extreme) reluctance of a minority of its population to which you obviously belong, yet none of them has fallen to Communism, nor are any in danger of doing so. Your parents may have suffered under Communism; that’s no excuse for you to try to install a Fascist dictatorship that destroys the freedom they sought by coming here. If this country is in danger of totalitarianism, that is the most likely manifestation, not the Communism the ignorant and bigoted blather about at the suggestion that one of the wealthiest countries in the world should not have people starving or dying from lack of basic medical care.
            My guess is that you think that’s just fine; that helping them endangers their “liberty” (to do what? starve? die of easily-treatable illness? sleep on the streets?) and – more importantly – that of the wealthier classes who need more thousand dollar bills for lighting their cigars.

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          4. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            obamboo hasn’t got to the point of armed conflict, yet. obooboo is leading America into communism. If you think it isn’t happening you are the stupidest dolt that ever drew a breath.

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          5. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Once again, define Communism, without help that is.

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          6. Sand_Cat October 31, 2013

            Yeah, why don’t you hold your breath waiting for it?

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          7. Guest November 1, 2013

            Comma-nist: noun

            1. An individual that has totalitarian views about punctuation, especially the overuse of commas.

            Ex.: We larned, in Ecanamacks, thet, Marks wer, a lift-weng, soshie, commanist,.

            Also, see “anal retentive.”

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          8. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            Anal retentive:

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          9. Sand_Cat November 2, 2013

            Did I miss something?

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          10. Guest November 2, 2013

            Not at all. I am just being my usual silly self. Actually, I thought that I would provide a definition for Dick Homely above. Sorry, about the foolery. I posted to you because you responded to our visiting young dirtbag. I provided the other definition as a reply to myself, below. Sorry, I know it was not that funny, but maybe you have heard about idle hands. . . .

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          11. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            My apologies, my post was ill-conceived. Sorry I took so long, but I was having trouble finding the post.

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          12. Andrew Freeland October 30, 2013

            To equate Obama/Democrats with Communism – you haven’t been in this country long enough, or you’re some ruling-class refugee!

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          13. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Nope, poor as dirt:) Was born here too from immigrant parents who learned English, worked their asses off and lived the American Dream. Well I suppose it didn’t penetrate the skull the first time……My parents lived under and escaped from Communism. My Father has said this is the closest he has ever seen it come to what it was for them. Have you ever lived under Communism? How would you know. I experienced it as a child after visiting family. If you don’t like them apples too bad. You don’t have to believe me and I know you won’t. If things weren’t going downhill the way they are, I really don’t think we would be bantering over any form of politics. Kapisch!

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          14. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            You just admitted that you have no idea what it was like to live under Communism. That makes your earlier claims lies.

            Lies are nothing new for you, but now we have definitive proof.

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          15. lvfilm October 31, 2013

            Contraire, as usual you are twisting things. I do know. I told you my parents were European immigrants. Part of my family lived under Communism, my father lived under Communism and my Mother lived under Communism. They both escaped. Part of the family remained. From my relatives in conjunction with my parents I grew up learning what it was all about. My father always sent money (when it wasn’t stolen) and goods on the black market to the family like a television. They had so little. Coffee was a luxury as were other food items like bananas and, also fuel. Cars were rare and old. The Government owned everyone’s home. Toilet paper was either newspaper or, I kid you not, recycled sawdust. The people had to stand in line for many goods when and if they were provided for by the Government. Everyone was equal. There was no incentive to innovate. When I visited the family at age 12 I got to see what it was really like. It was like stepping back in time 50 years with no progress. The buildings stood in disarray and the people seemed depressed. It was a dark dismal depressing world. The People lived in fear for saying anything against the Government for fear of imprisonment or death. I remember being scared to death crossing the border and I was only a child. I was so happy to step foot on free soil once again. You just don’t get it and I can prove nothing to you but that is the honest to God truth. No lie…… If you feel that is a way to live so be it. If things don’t change, it will be coming your way soon enough.

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          16. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            I do not care for your lies. I did not bother to read but the first four words. You spin so much, you do not even know what you said in the past. Therefore, as I am assured that you are going to lie, it is not worth my time to read.

            Though I wasted your time, I am doing you a favor. Next, time I will not know what your new lies consist of. So maybe, that will give you an advantage. Anyway, we know you are spewing mostly lies. Why should I waste my time trying to glean the tiny kernel of truth that may be there.

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          17. 4sanity4all October 31, 2013

            Okay, so your family lived under Communism. So did mine. But the U.S. has checks and balances built into the system so that we will never be under a totalitarian regime. I am old enough to know that, the Tea Party seems to be prevailing now, but they are not really. And the tide is turning. Within two election cycles, the Tea Party and all of their obstructionism will be just a bad memory. I do not understand why you think the U.S. is heading toward Communism, unless you have been getting your news from Fox News (which isn’t really news, it is opinions) or right wing radio ( which is also only ignorant opinions and twisted facts that do not even resemble the truth. Maybe you need more education about how it works here.

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          18. idamag November 1, 2013

            I doubt his story of his immigrant parents living under Communism is actually true. He is just another bigot who relies on ugly instead of facts.

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          19. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            I doubt it too. Even so, it is just a tragedy that these slugs understand so little about Democracy, that they feel that we need a Capitalist Totalitarian society to fight a (non-existent) Communist Totalitarian society. As well, being somewhat Socialist does not destroy incentive, but enhances it, and will lead to a more productive society and never to a totalitarian one. Forcing our society to be as an elite group of nationalist, bankers, and capitalists wish IS totalitarianism.

            Becoming to a large degree Socialist, will not damage our Democracy, but make it stronger. When we start doing what is best for ourselves, rather than the rich rats that bully and lobby us to death so they can continue their corruption, then we will only become better. Note, I am not saying the path will be clear and easy, but with perseverance and a little luck we will be just fine.

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          20. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            Sadly, you are preaching to the deaf and dumb.

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          21. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            But hey, you picked you on the deaf and dumb message pretty well.

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          22. lvfilm October 31, 2013

            Yes, I am….. They will find out soon enough. They know not what they do.

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          23. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            You are another total idiot that believes everything that the liar in chief spews out of his facial anal hole.

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          24. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            You ARE a facial anal hole. From your picture, you need a good wiping.

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          25. idamag November 1, 2013

            Do they shout “amen” when you spout this hatred at your KKK meetings?

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        2. lvfilm October 30, 2013

          Perhaps, I don’t want to state my point clearly. Your ideological inference in not understanding the information as stated proves your ignorance as seen as an inability to be objective. In plain English, ‘your inability to read between the lines.’ Ignorance is a norm for those who praise propaganda that is solely being spewed by superficial ideology which is most often ignited over the airwaves having a one-sided flair. Living the experience invokes fact not fiction:)

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          1. mah101 October 30, 2013

            If you don’t want to state your point clearly, why bother posting.

            Further, the objective of communication is to convey ideas and perspectives. If you are unable to do that, you are not communicating to anyone but yourself.

            Finally, I can infer from your use of polysyllabism and obtuse commentary that your education level is lower than mine, so I would refrain from calling others ignorant until you have objective and empirical support for such statements.

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          2. dpaano October 30, 2013

            Mah: My thoughts exactly…..thank you for expressing them so eloquently.

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          3. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            @Mah…..well….loser schmozer, you can thank my Liberal education for that one:) Look at your Dude who wrote his little snippet about ‘Repulicans.’ You all quickly corrected that individual. I have seen both Liberal and Conservative posting sites. The difference between the two is the fact that most Conservatives stand behind each other. At times, you tend to bash each other on the silliest issues.

            Communication? Nowadays, as far as I can see, sharing ideas and perspectives is no longer an objective. It’s demanded that everyone think in one direction. Pretty soon it will be forced.

            Go for it. Brag on your education. As far as my education goes…..knowledge is power…the more you have, the more you can think for yourself. Most Americans have a ‘TV’ knowledge and cannot think beyond the ‘boob tube’ or internet. That is why I inject the need for more research when you make statements.

            I live by a factual creed. If a person has lived through a certain situation and they tell me their story, I am more apt to believe what they tell me than something I have read about or seen on television. Media can be misconstrued as propaganda and lead the masses around by the nose. I hope I have made my point more clear?

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          4. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            You have a fake creed based on propaganda and fake experiences.

            The difference between Conservative sites and Liberal ones? Liberals think freely based on their interpretation of information, while Conjobs all belong to a propagandized herd, with few exceptions. Those exceptions pass as the half-witted intelligentsia of the Con-tards, and they are truly dangerous.

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          5. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            No you don’t you are brainwashed Mr. Byrd:) Fake experiences? Don’t think so and Liberals think freely alright. As long as it is within their own hypocritical realm. You need to explore what’s outside the box before you come to a conclusion.

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          6. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            How can you tell? You are in the “box.” I never have been.

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          7. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Really? Looks more like you have tunnel vision. The type of ‘freedom’ you all preach too seems less and less apparent to me. No smoking, no guns(but the criminals will have them anyway). What about knives and baseball bats?….. and you will tell me it’s not a societal problem? No gasoline, no one is allowed to have money, or speak their mind, and the list goes on and on. Need I mention, less and less freedom of choice or even religion for that matter. Do you really qualify that as a ‘free’ society. Not! …..and you will tell me we have so much freedom and diversity. It comes with it’s own set of consequences… Sounds more and more like living in a box to me. So what comes next an implanted bar code with everyone’s name and number on it so that the ‘Collective’ can keep track of our every move. Maybe by your standards things are looking perky or maybe not, but when it starts hitting home (meaning your pocketbook which I am sure it already has.) lets see how you feel. Yes, you are in the box. News for you, Coexist does not exist.

            Funny thing in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s in this country we all tended to be more tolerant and proud of who we were. We were respected internationally by quite a few. Maybe the economy was better? If it wasn’t in our face we didn’t care what the other person did or what political affiliation that individual involved himself in. Communism was a bad word. Maybe it is because we haven’t experienced true socialism that it is now coming into its own in America….and you will tell me, it’s not the same. Bull! Your man is doing a great job dividing and conquering…..He’s pacifying you until the Collective can put the big ‘kabash’ on everyone. Wish you all well:)

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          8. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Like smoking. Your an a-hole. You can smoke all you want. Just don’t do it around the 78% of the population that doesn’t. Many of those folks find your habit sickening. It is expensive, fouls the air for people that need to breath, and is deadly with ALL our insurance rates taking a hit when you get sick.

            Guns, no one is banning those. We just want to get them out of the hands of dangerous nuts like you.

            You want the freedom to do as you please, regardless of how much you destroy the rights of others. You are the reason we have the laws we do.

            Go back to Commie land you un-American a-hole. You are more suited for life there, than in a nation of decency and freedom, Commissar.

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          9. lvfilm October 31, 2013

            LOL, I don’t smoke, I don’t drink, I have never done drugs. I am one of the 78% of the population that doesn’t. I eat extremely healthy because that is how I was brought up. I don’t have guns but I know that it will fall into the bad guys hands if we don’t have them because of, you guessed it, our LIBERAL laws and societal woes. The statistics are out there and it is a fact that because of our Guns this big old Country has less crime then those that no longer have them. If you continue with this bashing I will be happy to upload the information and research I have done on this matter. Yes, with the exception of inhumanity, I believe that is the precept of freedom….to do as we please…..

            Nope, not a Commie and I’m not a liar. Don’t know what makes you think that. Your way of thinking is much closer to that way of thinking. I’m not asking you to change your views to mine. First and foremost, I am a freedom loving American nationalist. That is more than I can say for you and your kind. Divide and conquer;) Wow, did I open a can of worms. LOL

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          10. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            You are a worm. Get back into your can. You have proven yourself to be a liar many times. I just note my observations. I have no need to make anything up.

            Why do you ignore the fact that when your freedom, as you see it, invades the life of another person, that you are not entitled to that freedom. Actually, that is not freedom. You believe that Libertarian spiel about being sovereign to do what you please. Yet, freedom has responsibilities and limitations that you do not wish to recognize, much less obey.

            And doofus, there is no such thing a nationalist freedom lover. ANYWHERE. Ask any hard-line Communist about that one. They will tell you the exact same line about freedom loving nationalists.

            As for your gun crime statistics, should I suggest you get some real facts, or just call you an ignorant liar? Your choice.

            A clue. London several years back had ten murders in the first quarter of the year. The City fathers were pulling out their hair at the high murder rate. In contras my city, with a tenth of the population, had eleven for the same time period. Roughly a 1100% increase, based on population. And London has many poor people and Londoners think violent crime is out of control. Japan averages about fifty or so murders a year. Makes my community look like an active battle zone.

            Do you get the gist. THIS IS WHY I CALL YOU A LIAR. You spread mis-information in a blog that knows you are full of sh*t. You spread the evil lies of those that want a warped society. Racism, bigotry, and evil are their desires. If you fully believe, without conditions, their not too carefully pre-packaged lies, and spread same with gusto, you are going to receive a reaction.

            As I wish to stop here, I will add that most of the reason for all the right-wing lies is the emotionally defective need of some persons to control those around them. Yet, the foremost reason is money. Lies cause us to struggle amongst ourselves and take sides against our own interests. All the while, the thieves I have spoken of, steal the wealth that we have created.

            Really, I want us all to do well. You only want YOU to do well. No use in compounding the sin and lying to me

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          11. idamag November 1, 2013

            Russell, this cretin is only spouting crap over and over. There is nothing substantial. I would ignore him. He is beneath you.

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          12. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            You are right, yet I think that this cretin, and the others like him, think that they are proving something profound. Possibly, they think they are doing the “Lord’s work” by coming here. Anyway, I am not that important and my time is not that valuable.

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          13. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            Liberals are told by their puppet masters what to think.

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          14. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            I hope when your sock puppet master stick his hand in, and you do know where the hand really goes, that they give you a good lube job. Not that I give a d*mn about your a**, but I would hate to have taxpayers pay for an uninsured Teatard to have a fist removed from his posterior.

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          15. Sand_Cat October 30, 2013

            It sounds like you live by delusion, at least in the political realm. Communication involves showing some minimal respect for those who disagree.Starting off by labelling all of us a “losers,” “dupes” isn’t quite the way to get us listening; reciting long-discredited talking points and claiming we should swallow them because your family came from a Communist country isn’t either.

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          16. mah101 October 31, 2013

            Sand_Cat, I stopped talking with him long ago, right about the time my comment about not understanding his point elicited a vitriolic ad hominem response.

            No point in speaking further.

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          17. idamag November 1, 2013

            You will be much better off if you do not read anything he writes, skip over and ignore his ignorant posts.

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          18. Sand_Cat November 1, 2013

            This guy really annoyed me, and he’s new, or I haven’t seen him before. Just letting him know what he can expect when he comes here spouting how he has the right to be listened to because his parents lived in a Communist country, which obviously makes him an expert. Wish I could say differently, but my experience with those who left a Communist country to escape the oppression there – however real that oppression was – seem to go off the other end and are prepared to turn this country into a Fascist dictatorship to prevent it from “going Communist.” They also seem absolutely clueless about the type of government that makes the promises of the Communists sound good to the unwealthy and oppressed as they go about trying to transform their newly-adopted country into precisely that sort of place.

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          19. idamag November 1, 2013

            I think he made up that scenario.

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          20. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            The point was stated clearly. You are the individual that refuses to communicate, if you really have that ability. Did you not read his post? NO; you did not! Facts were stated about his experiences with communism. You can’t stand the truth so you lash out at the person giving you the true knowledge. You are stupid enough to hold the knife to your chest for the man to plunge it in your heart.

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          21. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            If you were capable of reading, you would realize that he was born in the United States. Of course, he did at one time claim to have experiences and even claimed to be an emigre himself. BUT he LIES all the time.

            The more believable story, and the one he related above, is his parents immigrated to this country. In other words, he has NO EXPERIENCE WITH COMMUNISM. He is just another disrupting, no information, name calling troll . . . like you. 🙂

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          22. lvfilm October 31, 2013

            Mr Byrd, what makes you an expert on Communism? I think I know more about it than most of you. I grew up with it spinning around me. Sorry but I do understand its precept.

            As far as no information…..I have posted this on Conservative sites when your Comrads would visit:

            I believe this to be the ideal for many of you.

            From Wikipedia:
            Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order.

            Sounds more up your alley than mine…….doesn’t it?

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          23. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            What makes you an expert on Communism? Your story does not make coherent sense. Anyway, I have studied Communism as a vocation. I am a Geographer, Cartographer, and Historian, and know more than a little about Geo-Economics, and am was personally well-aquainted with a couple of those Communist nations. WHILE, they were Communist.

            Why did I not say that? ONE: I did not come here to pull rank, because I know more than you. TWO: None of these discussions are about Communism. Just your view of Communism and your forcing your false views into the discussion. THREE: The Communist discussion is of your devising. I do not even care to bring it up, except as a rebuttal to you. FOUR: You are a troll, whether it is your intention or not. You came here to make spacious false claims and preach, preach, preach.

            You bring up Communism and then you white wash everyone against you as Communist. Reasoned argument just gets more of your white wash.

            Rather, while I am not a Communist, you are indeed a Fascist. Not cool! Unfortunately, Capitalists ARE bleeding us dry. They are making unprecedented profits, while many people have not had a raise in a decade. They are trying to buy our courts, our laws, our politicians, and divide us so that we cannot oppose their weakest advance. We cannot “long endure” with this situation. Your Capitalist heroes will cause the people to demand revolution. Then the Democracy that I love so much, and you seem to despise, will go to destruction, and never rise again.

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          24. lvfilm October 31, 2013

            No, I came to observe and will not return. Not sure of your age but I believe I am most likely older than you. I am certainly not a Communist, but I have seen it in action first hand. In fact, I loathe it that is why I mention it so often here. Your way of thinking is eerily close to the Communist ideal. Even with your education which is mostly through books, I doubt you totally understand the regime. If you have, I’m really reluctant to believe that you totally get it. A skunk does not smell his own scent. I do agree that Capitalism no longer works, I never said it was totally working did I? I believe in innovation and creating a business to further yourself. If that means wealth than you are an example of the American Dream in action. Freedom as it relates to the founding fathers is another matter altogether. A bit outdated but the principle should stay intact and it is constantly being misconstrued and ruined. What you preach about is not freedom. I have pointed that out in earlier posts therefore I do not need to rehash it here. Fascist! No totally against that one. Don’t like any regime that puts constraints on human beings and no I am not an anarchist. Maybe you should ask yourself one question. Is America doing better economically than it was 20 years ago? If you answer yes to that question then you are the liar. Your so called Democracy is losing ground…..but you fail to face the reality of the reasons why…..and it is because of this divide between people like you and me that it will end. Historically that is how it always ends. Freedom was a great concept. The best there has ever been. Too bad it only lasted a little over 200 years…. With that I bid you farewell Mr. Byrd.

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          25. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            I bet you are gone about like I would believe the Pope isn’t Catholic. You may be surprised about the age. Your kind assumes because you have a disgusting, negative, totally selfish outlook, but have the “wisdom” of age, everyone that disagrees must be a college kid.

            WRONG! I am probably about the same age as you. My brain has not atrophied, nor has my humanity, unlike yourself. As for freedom, you do not know what freedom is. You use the word freedom is your ability to acquire what you want, and do what you please. In other words, to get what you want regardless of the cost to others. That is not freedom. Like too many Americans, and most of our immigrants, you do not care one whit for freedom. You only want to be free of responsibility for the state of the nation. THAT idea is what is killing freedom!

            So, let us explain it another way. What is it to be free? Forget your undefined buzz word of “freedom.” What is it to be free? To do what you want? That’s not “freedom,” dirt bag. At best, that is self-gratification. To own a yacht, or a mansion, or a huge stock portfolio. Those things are the fruits of economic prosperity, not freedom. The trap is, when you next reply, you will demonstrate that you do not understand the subtle difference.

            If you need a clue, the millions that the right-wing and the business community spends to sway our people away from their own best interest, and to sway our government, do NOT promote freedom and Democracy. Far from it. That behavior is the anti-thesis of freedom.

            As there is no reason to argue the point with you, I won’t. Yet, simply put, by your own very words, you have exposed yourself as a Fascist. In fact, you actually called yourself a Fascist, BY DEFINITION!

            So farewell, at least for the next 20 minutes, or so. . . .

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          26. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Since you like definitions, let me give you the ones that Emilio Gentile, the noted Italian Historian and expert on Fascism had to say.

            [There are} ten constituent elements: A mass movement with multiclass membership in which prevail, among the leaders and the militants, the middle sectors, in large part new to
            political activity, organized as a party militia, that bases its
            identity not on social hierarchy or class origin but on a sense of comradeship, believes itself invested with a mission of national regeneration, considers itself in a state of war against political adversaries and aims at conquering a monopoly of political power by using terror, parliamentary politics, and deals with leading groups, to create a new regime that destroys parliamentary democracy;

            An ‘anti-ideological’ and pragmatic ideology that proclaims itself antimaterialist, anti-individualist, antiliberal, antidemocratic, anti-Marxist, is populist and anticapitalist in tendency, expresses itself aesthetically more than theoretically by means of a new political style and by myths, rites, and symbols as a lay religion designed to
            acculturate, socialize, and integrate the faith of the masses with the goal of creating a ‘new man’;

            A culture founded on mystical thought and the tragic and activist sense of life conceived of as the manifestation of the will to power, on the myth of youth as artificer of history, and on the exaltation of the militarization of politics as the model of life and collective activity;

            A totalitarian conception of the primacy of politics, conceived of as an integrating experience to carry out the fusion of the individual and the masses in the organic and mystical unity of the nation as an ethnic and moral community, adopting measures of discrimination and persecution against those considered to be outside this community either as enemies of the regime or members of races considered to be inferior or otherwise dangerous for the integrity of the nation;

            A civil ethic founded on total dedication to the national community, on discipline, virility, comradeship, and the warrior spirit;

            A single state party that has the task of providing for the armed defense of the regime, selecting its directing cadres, and organizing the masses within the state in a process of permanent mobilization of emotion and faith;

            A police apparatus that prevents, controls, and represses dissidence and opposition, even by using organized terror;

            A political system organized by hierarchy of functions named from the top and crowned by the figure of the ‘leader,’ invested with a sacred charisma, who commands, directs, and coordinates the activities of the party and the regime;

            Corporative organization of the economy that suppresses trade union liberty, broadens the sphere of state intervention, and seeks to achieve, by principles of technocracy and solidarity, the collaboration of the ‘productive sectors’ under control of the regime, to achieve its goals of power, yet preserving private property and class divisions;

            A foreign policy inspired by the myth of national power and greatness, with the goal of imperialist expansion.
            ———–
            With the exception of a tendency to anti-materialism and anti-capitalism, Gentile encapsulates you pretty well. Unfortunately, that just brings you a lot closer to a much darker totalitarian group of thugs. I will let it go at that.

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          27. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Now honestly — do you really expect anyone to take your babble seriously? Knives to the chest — really?

            You seem to be full of angst, so what’s the real issue? Did your blow-up sheep suddenly spring a leak, leaving you out of sorts? They do have repair kits, if you’d like to know.

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          28. mah101 October 31, 2013

            Richard, tone down the anger and hyperbole. The original comment was obtuse. You just seem angry. I’m not sure what I have stated that makes you think that you need to respond with such anger, but I can tell you that you are acting inappropriately.

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          29. highpckts October 30, 2013

            Reading between the lines is pure supposition! Not facts! If you think that this is leading to communism, that is your right! You obviously have had that drilled into your head for a long time! Too bad you started out brainwashed and can’t think for yourself anymore!

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          30. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            May I inject, I feel very sorry for your narrow mindedness because there is no winning with you people. Just as there is no winning me over. I only know this because I believe facts over fiction which was pointed out some posts back. I am not brainwashed, I only know what I know because of historic facts that tend to be repeating themselves. There is a huge difference between Fascism, Communism and Capitalism. The latter disappearing at an alarming rate. How do I know this because I know people who have lived through all three regimes:) ….and believe me I know the difference between all three. Do you? You are all asking for something very demeaning. I hope I have made myself clear……

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          31. highpckts October 30, 2013

            None of you believe in “FACTS”!! There isn’t one” fact” that didn’t come from right wing media! You also try to rewrite history to suit your mindset like they are trying to do in Texas! What a load!!

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          32. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            There you go, trying to “inject” us again. Is that some kind of code for “unnatural acts”?

            People have always striven to better themselves. At least, normal, positive people do. Unfortunately, that often takes the form of preying on fellow humans in order to amass wealth.

            In my view, it is outrageous to codify the worst of our behavior into a system. That which you call Capitalism. Where someone takes a risk once, and then takes a hefty share of all the wealth the real producers create, FOREVER. All the while, using that created wealth to control the minds, bodies, and if possible, the very souls of those REAL PRODUCERS.

            All Capitalism is, is the worst of Communism, with a Law degree.

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          33. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Ahhh, there you go. You are soo wrong…. You need to research the three regimes. You are just feeding me a bunch of malarky right now. Big difference between the three. Do your research……. Capitalism, when it works is a far cry from Communism:)

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          34. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            I called it right. I told you before, I understand very well. Communists force every enemy to jump off a cliff. Capitalists “convince” most of their target groups to jump off voluntarily with expensive propaganda campaigns. The rest are marginalized. So, they can always pay for more propaganda to convince everyone their hands are clean.

            On the other hand, Capitalists often just buy our politicians and our laws. Then they do not even have to give a d*mn about what the majority think. The LAW says they have rights to every thing, and we, the “wealth creators” . . . DON’T.

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          35. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            idiot commie

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          36. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Richard, I intentionally do not use an avatar, but after looking at your photo, I think I can safely say that there is no way you could ever insult me for lack of intelligence. My, my, what a stupid looking Teatard you are.

            I bet you cannot even tell me what an idiot really is, much less a commie. People like me believe in freedom and fair play. I bet you only care about what makes your pecker hard. Of course, it might take a lot, since you are pure pecker from your nappy head to your stinky little toes. 🙂

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          37. idamag November 1, 2013

            He does look kind of “duh.” doesn’t he?

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          38. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            “Duh” sounds like a suitable new avatar for him. 🙂

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          39. Richard Holmes November 2, 2013

            An Idiot is you. A communist is a dolt that does not question anything said to him and is happily led to the slaughter, also you.
            My pecker does get hard. While you on the other hand are just a limp dick.

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          40. Russell Byrd November 2, 2013

            It must take a h*ll of a blood flow to inflate, because you are a complete Dick.

            You failed the poly sci test. So you really have no idea except you just follow the mindless instructions of a talking head sock puppet master like Rush Gasbag. You do know where the hand goes in the sock puppet don’t you? I bet he doesn’t even give you any grease before he sticks his hand in. I guess him tickling your tonsils from below makes it all worthwhile. 🙂

            By the way, if you are that stupid and uneducated, you might follow Bill’s advice and keep your mouth shut. Oops, your boy friend wouldn’t appreciate that. . . . snicker, snicker . . .

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          41. Germansmith October 30, 2013

            Do not waste much of your time trying to change minds here.
            They do not and will refuse to see the avalanche of incompetence this government brings to bear.
            Since saving GM for the sake of their Union voters and preventing a banking meltdown by dumping trillions on the banks while basically ignoring the plight of millions with homes underwater they have not shoot straight.
            -Ms Manning scandal
            -Mr. Snow scandal
            -Benghazi
            -IRS giving special attention to patriots and tea party.
            -Unable to deal with the loyal opposition
            -Syria and how to make a Russian bully look like a world class player.
            -Obamacare, concepts, pricing, plans, implementation, favoritism. An example of how NOT to do it….
            -NSA spying on law abiding US citizens and allies brought to light.
            And so on

            it kind of feel we are being govern by Apple Dumpling Gang
            I thought Bush was an idiot, but he is looking better by comparison day after day

            oh yeah, he ordered a sanction on Bin Laden, but failed to mention that it was a conclusion to an operation that started way before Obama.
            Obama is really made of Teflon, nothing sticks to him but the idiots still believing in “Change and Hope”

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          42. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Thank you Mr. Germansmith. My intention is not to persuade rather it is to observe:) I appreciate your candor.

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          43. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, geez, what a trolling liar.

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          44. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Unfortunately, I’m not a liar. I just believe differently than you do and you cannot except that fact just as I suspected. I have merely taken some historical facts that have evolved within my own family. I believe people that were there rather than words on a page that can be misconstrued into forms of ‘yellow journalism.’ I suppose you can relate? Yes, there is a growing divide between the middle class and wealthy. That in time becomes a problem. History has proved that. You’ll either see one day….or you won’t care either way…. Telling me I’m in the toilet, I’m a liar. I’m delusional (that’s a joke) I’m an a’hole and I’m a troll is kind of cheap and doesn’t say anything….. Now that I have caused a stir, I’m going to leave it at that. History will show the facts as they unfold……..

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          45. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            The pot calls the kettle black, all the while claiming that he is not after all black as well.

            You are just too good for us. Why do you bother with such lowly creatures as us?

            Well, that ends the humorous segment of the post. Really, you are one of the d*mnest liars I have ever come across. TOTAL hypocrite. You usually come in here name calling. AND you make every definiton of TROLL.

            Only a total lying fool makes the claim that you just did. I will make a suggestion. Why don’t you show your fervor with your filthy theories, and when they fail, jump off the nearest bridge.

            Oh, and I never said you were in the toilet, though you are definitely a delusional a-hole. Once again, do you think after your behavior, that we care about your little hurt feelings. DROP DEAD. 🙂

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          46. Sand_Cat October 30, 2013

            Yes, we’ve noticed that your “persuasive” skills are in the toilet. Maybe you should try telling the truth for starters.

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          47. Sand_Cat October 30, 2013

            Maybe it would help you see why we don’t listen to your claims if you saw the earth-shattering flood of malice, ignorance, and bigotry – not to mention incredible incompetence – of the current government’s opposition, ills that you choose to ignore or minimize.

            Most of the “scandals” you name are pure BS, inflated by those same ignoramuses who sent our army to fight for non-existent WMDs because YOUR leader wanted to look like a brave and inspiring war leader.
            Before criticizing us, maybe you should heed the injunction to pull the beam from your own eye in order to better assist us in removing the splinters from ours.
            [Edit] And the best of your note is about the “loyal opposition.” It’s obvious you have zero judgment, if that wasn’t already abundantly clear from your definition of “scandal.” Maybe lvfilm should have a look at who’s supporting him here, and wonder why the only one who is can’t tell the difference between a national security crisis and a partisan witch-hunt. Loyal indeed! You would be hilariously funny if it weren’t so obvious you believe it all [end-edit]

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          48. Germansmith October 30, 2013

            Go ahead and stick your head in the sand. Maybe you should be Sand Ostrich , not Sand Cat

            Tell me of one of those things I just mentioned that is not real or factual.
            Just pick one and I will dissect it for you
            Unless..you are too busy trying to sign up at healthcare.gov
            millions served, just a few thousands satisfied.

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          49. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            Correction… None satisfied!

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          50. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Sorry, it was not meant to satisfy idiots. . . . 🙂

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          51. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Well, your frustration is understandable. No web site can really replace your blow-up sheep doll.

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          52. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            I’m sure there must be a site he could order a new one.

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          53. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Well, ever hear the old Eleanor Roosevelt joke. The ACA sign-up will get better regardless of how much anti-American attitude and activity you pull. On the other hand, when it gets better, you will still be a liar.

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          54. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

            Lordy but you need to calm down!

            I have some words I can share to soothe your soul:

            Obama

            Black

            YOUR PRESIDENT

            (hee-hee!)

            Better now?

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          55. Germansmith October 30, 2013

            YOU ARE A RACIST !!!!
            Are you suggesting that the administration is incompetent because President Obama is black? Are we supposed to expect less of him because he is a member of an underprivileged minority and he needs to be protected ?…that is racist.
            What now, are you also going to dump on Sibelius because she is a woman?
            You should be ashamed of yourself…..

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          56. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Krautscheiss, you have said many, many racist words in past posts. You have alluded to many more.

            Yours is just your usual attempt to always be right even though you should not have bothered to show up. None of us buy your “hurt” act. We know you all too well.

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          57. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Byrd brain

            you are raising false testimony. I have never post a negative racial comment toward any race.

            Being dismissal of comments like “just because he is black” is because I see those comments as a perpetuation of racism.

            Racism is real, and will be with us as long as we watch TV and every night we see a majority of violent crime committed by a black or brown person, even as sometimes the media go out of their way to not mention the race of culprit (but now we have pictures). As a Cuban, it angers me when another Cuban gets caught doing crimes, because I know part of that stigma will splash on me and I would be tougher on them that for other people.

            When you spend a number of years in business and have a chance to deal with black lawyers, doctors, business people, etc you must realize that the moment any black person discover that education, hard work with a culture of integrity and honesty, they can be as capable or better than their counterparts of other races (because they also use racism as a fuel for success, because success is the best revenge). How do a person compensate for racism? Do that spur that person to be the best? or do they use it as an excuse for failure?

            Every President had their problems and opponents and scandals. Is how you deal with them that makes you a leader.

            Obama is in this pickle, not because he is black, Obama is over his head and maybe we elected him before his time and he surround himself with a lot of incompetent people that allowed these things to happen.

            I think Obama would have been a better President if he had a few more years as a senator and maybe a couple of years as Governor or CEO of a corporation.

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          58. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            D*mn, d*mn, d*mn Krautscheiss, you are one breathtaking liar. We have had multiple posts from multiple authors on multiple occasions condemning you for exactly that behavior. Geez, you are the mack daddy of liars, and that ain’t good. By the way, you made remarks that are racially offensive in the very post I am responding to. Are you that dumb? Or that arrogant? Or both?

            Is your family some of those low down Cuban gangsters that corrupted all of Cuba when Batista was in? I still remember that dirty, corrupt, murderous pig. Castro was a breath of fresh air. We only hate him because scum like you could hang the word “commie” on him.

            Castro came to us first for help, not the Soviet Union. When he did, Nixon labeled him a “commie” to Eisenhower. Castro was certainly leftist, but how different would have been the outcome if we had only dropped your kind back into the sea and steered Castro towards Democracy. We had the chance and threw it away because of bigotry. Yeah, I know, you love Batista to this day for letting you corrupt Cuba, but he was a nightmare for 90% of Cubans.

            We still hate Castro because the “old guard” thinks he killed Kennedy, and the fact that he will not open Cuba to being picked clean by our voracious capitalists. The sad truth is, more than a few know that Kennedy’s real killers came from the very gang of thugs that your family came from.

            By the way, you have admitted, in passing, that you are using multiple avatars. I will make this information, with evidence available to the other regulars, the group in general, and the moderators.

            Either that, or you told several lies that have come back to bite you.

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          59. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Gee byrd brain
            Can not find any facts and now you are relying on hear say of other people that see a racist behind every earned criticism?
            Can not argue a point and resort to offensive remarks? Can not find any facts, then try bullying people with insults?
            How classical populist from you.
            Not angry with you…Anger is nothing more than unfulfilled expectations and I do not expect anything but anger, insults and accusations from the people that are seeing their fantasy come apart.
            Hope And Change Brother!!!!…it is almost funny if it was not my country

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          60. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            No, Krautscheiss, I always gather my own facts. Always.

            As for the rest of your post, you are a laughable hypocrite. You are the SOB that set the tone of these discussions. You are the bully. I only bully bullies, i.e. you had to be one first and had to prove that you were committed to continue to be one.

            Just like your post just now. You lie, and lie again, to prove a point that you cannot prove, only to bully, lie, and troll this blog for your sick pleasure. While I am hardly a white knight, I get great satisfaction in making you sweat for your sick pleasures. Truly, you are used to getting your way and having the best. Working for something is not agreeable to you.

            As for your, “I do not expect anything but anger, insults and accusations from the people that are seeing their fantasy come apart.” You have got to be kidding. In any case, assuming that is what that idiot statement means, my expectations in life are certainly not fantasies. and they are absolutely not coming apart. Far from it. The evidence is, in a number of years you will be in such decline as to cease being a factor in American life. So, keep pushing your sick arrogant fantasies of superiority. You are only helping to accelerate your own demise.

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          61. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Byrd brain
            Do not waste my time. You accuse me of lying, OK
            Bring up a lie I posted..prove it. Lets argue it…or shut up

            You do not make me sweat, because , well, your arguments are just insults and have no foundation, you gather no facts, just your factory preset opinion.

            I have no pleasure in expressing my opinions and I will have no pleasure when they prove correct….they usually do

            You insult, I choose to respect and I think I have wasted enough time with you
            Either bring up one of my “supposed lies and inconsistencies” or stop blowing hot air

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          62. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Geez, Germs, tell me where you haven’t lied. Yeah, for once, you have not told overt lies, but your skewing of the facts and refusal to hold rational discussion amounts to lies.

            Like, these three:

            -Benghazi
            -IRS giving special attention to patriots and tea party.
            -Unable to deal with the loyal opposition

            Benghazi – We both know Obama had no extraordinary part in causing that to happen. As well, all the false accusations have failed to gain any traction. And, especially, you refuse to answer about your gang’s lack of concern when the same thing happened at least ten times under your hero “W.” So to continue to repeat known falsehoods, and at the very best, innuendo you cannot prove, MEANS YOU DID LIE.

            IRS – Those T-Potty groups are not doing charity work. NO they are not, but they are using their bullying to make the IRS reluctant to turn them down. Short answer is, all that T-Pot filth needs to have their applications denied instead of being allowed to use threats of tantrums to get their way. By not facing the truth that has been PROVEN, and posting that which any reasonable person knows to be false, YOU LIE!

            Unable to deal with loyal opposition – What loyal opposition? Your gang of hoodlums voted over 42 times (48 actually) to repeal the ACA or stop its funding. Before you make your usual and obvious lies about needing to repeal, answer this. In three and one-half years, not one alternate plan has been created. WHY? Where is your “better” plan? I have listened to nauseating Repub after Repub talk about “there is a better way.” Not one has EVER expressed even ONE idea.

            Since all these votes were unanimous, I will ask, where is the “loyal opposition”? How about McConnell and his 438+ filibusters? And McConnell’s campaign to make Obama a one term President? Does this sound like cooperation?

            I am just scratching the surface. Need I go onto Paul, Ryan, Gohmert, Boehner, and an entire cast of goons that have only one idea of governing. Destroy the government and Democracy, hand the nations total worth to the rich, create a “proletariat” (hint, hint) that is totally under their rich master’s thumbs and has no rights or future, except what their master’s allow.

            How about voter ID laws and voter purging? FACT, no one, including fervent right-wingers, have ever found evidence of any significant voter fraud. Yet, you go into spasms when someone tries to help someone you consider an “untermensch” to vote. Why is that? This is a Democracy. Or is it? AND by the way, there have been a number of admissions by Repub functionaries admitting that it is part of a plan to disqualify potential Democrat voters and win elections for Republiconartists.

            Answer this, with over 1200 hate and anti-goverment groups in the nation, how many are right-wing? Let’s just say there are only two that are not. It is your bunch that is always threatening and rattling your sabers. Er, gun arsenals.

            You want a totalitarian society, pure and simple. You just spin your perverted desires back on those that are trying to defend our ENTIRE people and our Democracy. Your lying about your methods and motivations is just exactly that?

            Now, you did win one victory. You got me to put effort into a futile attempt to make you see reason. I know that you will continue to lie, while I continue to tell the truth, BUT my conscience is clear and the challenge has been met.

            You will never do the same. I will continue to call you a liar until you either cease lying or cease existing. Your future is bleak here, but hey, you are not exactly a mental giant that will figure that out.

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          63. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            By the way, why don’t you actually show evidence to prove that you are not lying? You want me to prove your lies, but you reserve the right to continue propagating old lies, while you develop new ones? Doesn’t make any sense to engage you in reasonable discussion as long as you are not reasonable, or truthful. So, my continuing challenge will always be, PROVE your BS. It is not for me to disprove anything.

            You do not seem to get it. I do not post that much and I usually do not post that many bits of “evidence.” The point here is, I am not making wild claims like you do. And you come into a blog that you know does not welcome you and you start disrupting arguments. I only work to refute you lies, I don’t make that much conversation otherwise.

            The good thing is, you have shown that your hair-trigger temper has went past its flash point and you Tourette’s has kicked in. 🙂

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          64. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            I do not lie
            I do not use multiple avatars (why? I barely have time to comment because I have to work and pay taxes) and again why would in passing even admit to something stupid and not even considered.
            And if you feel correct in advising the moderators and use the wonderful policy of censoring those people not commenting to your liking….I do not give a s—. Go right ahead

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          65. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            You do lie. In every post. We both know that no one will drop a house on you for doing so, so you lie with “gay abandon.”

            And we both know that you do not give a shit, and the moderators probably do not either. Takes no balls to make your claim.

            However, at least I tell you the truth about what I am thinking and doing. Unlike yourself, I need to use verifiable facts, while you consider anything you can fantasize as a being the truth.

            Just ain’t so, baby!

            Reply
          66. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            Obama is not over his head. How can anyone lead this nation with so many divisive, treacherous, greedy, racist (yes, racist) elements that are working like maggots to disrupt and destroy everything one tries to do.

            Face it, Obama will never be ready in your eyes. Not until, he is a sock puppet that obeys your every evil command.

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          67. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            You really are quite bent out of shape, aren’t you? Well, just because a black man has achieved more than you ever will is no reason to be a sour puss.

            Reply
          68. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            No, I really do not mind that Kanye is marrying Kim Kardassian.
            nice looking bud and the best of it is that he will probably be free of her before she gets ugly and nagging.

            Why would I be bent out of shape…everything I have said about Obama is turning out to be correct and no amount of shoe polish would cover the scratches…..

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          69. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Oh yes, I see your problem: Black men all around you are flaunting the fact that they are better than you. It must really wind you up and make you spin!

            Shoe polish! Hahaha — good one!

            Now that you’ve had your little laugh (very), you may go back to being a good boy. Your leader is a black man and that’s that. Got it?

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          70. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Very talented black men are around me , a pity I do not live in Washington as they would benefit from a few of them.
            If you are trying to get my goat……you are really not that talented and not half as smart as you think you are. I am also not insecure and very sure that my predictions will come thru.
            …just have to wait

            Come back with a reply whenever you have something smart and relevant to say…I’ll get comfortable just in case I have to wait for weeks.

            Reply
          71. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            *Yawn*

            You may be useful at something after all. Would you mind posting around bed time so that I can fall asleep faster? I’ll promise not to remind you that the black man in the White House is better than you in every possible way for an entire day — deal?

            Reply
          72. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Dude, you are already sleep…..just your fingers are not aware of it.
            A lullaby you request and I will comply
            ” Go to sleep, go to sleep little lefty creep, or the healthcare.gov will never work well “

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          73. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Thank you.

            zzzz….One more thing: Can you tell me the one about Multiple Mitt and the 47 percent again? That’s my favorite.

            zzzzzZZZZZZZZ

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          74. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

            obooboy darkie, maybe can’t really be sure on that, usurper, liar, crook, muslim, communist. (hee-hee!) How do you feel now?

            Reply
          75. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Except for your racism, you did not prove anything except you are an ignorant liar. Obama usurped no one . . . elected by a similar majority that elected that pr*ck Raygun. AND his birth certificate was proven good. Have not heard anything about proving those lies. Just lots of accusations . . . wind and smoke, no fire. Crook, interesting, but where is your proof on that one. Muslim, we already know that your kind continue to lie mercilessly about that. Communist, pray tell, smart boy, what is that? Bet you do not even know.

            Feel better now? Yeah, I feel marvelous. The good Lord has sent me an idiot to whoop up on.

            Reply
          76. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            I feel fine, but you apparently hate getting your ass whupped by a black man. Get used to it boy — it’s your future. Got it?

            Reply
          77. idamag November 1, 2013

            In order to change someone’s mind, you need to be smarter than the person you are proselytizing to.

            Reply
          78. Nils Mikkelsen October 30, 2013

            Sir, you are a delusional paranoid.

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          79. lvfilm October 30, 2013

            Not really, just a concerned citizen:) LOL

            Reply
          80. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Let’s split the difference! A “concerned” delusional paranoid.

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          81. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            True and concise!

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          82. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            Maybe we should let him know Obamacare can help.

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        3. idamag November 1, 2013

          Shows the lack of real study. Rupert Murdoch (not even an American) stated that the television, he owns, is a conservative news media. It is strange, his followers don’t even recognize that two sides are never presented nor is anyone liberal even featured on that station. There is actually only one liberal station and that is MSNBC. So, if they catch a Republican crapping on the White House lawn and take a picture of it, that means they are biased against conservatives.

          Reply
      2. Eleanore Whitaker October 30, 2013

        IvFilm…Ted Turner? A liberal? Rupert Murdoch? A liberal? Mort Zuckerman? A liberal? If you actually knew anything about the major media moguls, you’d know most are control freak right wingers. If you need proof, check out which news paper the Koch freaks are in the process of buying.

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        1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

          Really, what gave you that idea…. Thank goodness for some diversity in media which was certainly not evident in the (60’s, 70’s, 80’s) I know you all love diversity. Why not. To disregard another’s point of view is not holding to the very idea of ‘Coexist.’ That’s hypocritical isn’t it? I’m willing to admit I am a hypocrite. Aren’t we all willing to be holden to what we believe?

          In case you haven’t noticed, there are many more sanctioned channels exploiting liberal media than any other.

          2008 study:
          “Conservative critics of the media say some bias exists within a wide variety of media channels including network news shows of CBS, ABC, and NBC, cable channels CNN, MSNBC and Current TV, as well as major newspapers, news-wires, and radio outlets, especially CBS News, Newsweek, and The New York Times. These arguments intensified when it was revealed that the Democratic Party received a total donation of $1,020,816, given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks (NBC, CBS, ABC), while the Republican Party received only $142,863 via 193 donations.”

          2012 study:
          “A 2012 study examined the extent to which Twitter users tend to follow news sources with the same political views. Using data from the progressive Americans for Democratic Action, who rank news media on a scale from 0 to 100, with 0 meaning they never agree with the opinions of the ADA and 100 meaning that they always agree with the opinions of the ADA, the researchers found that Twitter users tend to follow media with similar scores. Of 26 major news sources ranked, the most left-leaning are NPR, The New York Times, ABC News, and CNN, the most centrist (agree with the ADA fifty percent of the time) are Anderson Cooper, CNN, Richard Bacon, and GMA, while the most right-leaning are Fox News, The Washington Times, US News, and the Chicago Tribune.”

          This information is not from a ‘Conservative think tank.’
          As for Hollywood it is totally Liberal….. I should know:)

          Thank goodness for some diversity in the media of today. Why can’t humans in a ‘so called free society’ be allowed to have different points of view. Again, as I said before, you people need to do your research……

          The only way we will ever have peace in this world is if we except each other for who we are. That is something we have not matured to yet. Will we survive ourselves. That is yet to be seen……

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          1. Sand_Cat October 30, 2013

            I love how your first “study” points out that conservatives say that the media is liberal. WOW. What an insight! I never noticed that before. Maybe you should try reading FACTS rather than what a bunch of blind fanatics SAY is true.

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          2. sigrid28 October 30, 2013

            These far right trolls who string together talking points could go on forever. What they cannot do is analyze the talking points–true or false–that they cite. I think “leaders” like Cruz who want to manipulate this group, distract them with this useless occupation, stringing together talking points like children make paper chains in kindergarten. All the Cruzes want is the votes of these gullible voters, in order to achieve power.

            The Cruz idea of utopia is not very original–plain old dictatorship with a veneer of plutocracy. I think this concept of power is based on a limited understanding of humanity. Cruz imagines all Americans fit the same types he sees in Texas (which is a limited view–how different evangelicals are in western Iowa), or he rails against a small group of liberals he recognized as different from himself when he attended Harvard (but does not understand well at all the liberals who live in eastern Iowa or California or New Jersey). Over 300 million Americans exceed in splendid diversity and far outnumber the cheap idea Cruz has when he envisions voters in the U.S.A. So he wages war against a fantom of his own invention, and he aims to manipulate a populace he looks down upon and won’t try to understand, but counts on for their votes. The media has given him a loudspeaker, but it can do nothing about his limited vision. That is what will be his undoing: he underestimates America in every way possible.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker October 31, 2013

            News in the media is supposed to fall under the right of Free Press…as in Free of insidiously created bias by ultra right wingers who own the media today. You obviously are a child of the Disco Generation. Not the 60s. If you had been, you’d know that the demand in the 60s was for unbiased news. It’s the reason so many colleges and universities allowed unrestricted op-ed pieces and the biggies in the media didn’t.

            No matter what NBC donated to a Democratic campaign, some slugs of the right refuse to understand that it is essential to campaign donors to make it appear that because they receive help from taxpayers, their campaign bundles must also appear to be “unbiased.” Hence your reference to NBS handing campaign funding to the Democrats.

            It’s a blatant reversal of fact that we must accept each other as we are. Do you accept Madoff as he is? Adelson? Ebbers? Kozlowski? Abramoff? Manson? Hitler? Glib philosophy based on an attempt to get one’s way by infusing language with words like “peace” and “accept” is buffoonery befitting only those with a mastery of double talk.

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          4. old_blu October 31, 2013

            Eleanore you have made me go to google for the word “buffoonery” thank you for that, and it is a very appropriate word for many of the posters on here. *wink*
            I can’t believe I’ve never heard it before, but I will use it now.

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker October 31, 2013

            You are so welcome. I’m a freelance writer full-time now that I’ve finally retired after 24 years and 7 months from my environmental engineering job. I’ve always been a freelancer; but, it was formerly only part-time. That’s how I earned my keep from 1 full-time and 2 part-time jobs..rofl.

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        2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

          I could very well be wrong about this. “Lvfilm” talks like “tax payer” with his “sheeple,” etc. As well, he talks about experiencing life in a communist country, as “tax payer” has. Any thoughts?

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          1. old_blu October 30, 2013

            Russell, they all talk the same. The same old spill we read everyday.

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          2. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            The only thing is, he brought up that same “commie” experience like taxie did. Of course, though I am sure they are all separate individuals, none of them are “real” when it comes to rational and intelligent thought and conversation. So, you could very well be right. These trolls, like most of the T-Potty, seem to be programmed into a singular pattern of thought. Well, thought is not the correct word. What I like to call Un-think.

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          3. idamag November 1, 2013

            It might be because they are being programmed by the same source.

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          4. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

            I think you have something there. I think we are suffering a fifth column “social media” infiltration.

            Do you think there is a right-wacky “Moron’s Clearinghouse for Useless Arguing Points”?

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          5. idamag November 1, 2013

            Haven’t heard “fifth column” for a lot of years.

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          6. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

            You are so right, but I am somewhat concerned.

            Oddly, “lv” alludes to his visit to a Communist nation that his parents came from. He “knows” all about Communism. Tax payer made similar statements, though I don’t think he mentioned any parents. Now, this morning, Germsh*t tells me that HIS parents came from Cuba and that HE knows all about Communism.

            Are they all one and the same, or is this some kind of fifth column involved in “social infiltration.”?

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      3. highpckts October 30, 2013

        What????

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        1. Elisabeth Gordon October 30, 2013

          I’m confused too…what is lvfilm talking about? He seems to be arguing with himself.

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          1. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            Motel time for “lv.” He needs a room with a view . . . past the rubber padding on the walls of his cozy little cell.

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          2. plc97477 October 31, 2013

            And one of those cute little jackets with the bow in the back.

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      4. dpaano October 30, 2013

        lvfilm: What in heck is a “looser?” Don’t you mean “Loser.” If you’re a writer, I’m surprised you can’t tell the difference between loose and lose….really? I guess you’re right….ignorance is bliss!

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        1. awakenaustin October 30, 2013

          My bad guess is that English is a second language for him and one he has not mastered, at least, in written form.

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        2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

          My bad guess is that Thinking is a foreign concept for him and one he has not mastered, at least, in rational form.

          Thanks, and apologizes to “awakenaustin.” I just could not resist.

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        3. old_blu October 30, 2013

          My ex wife was looser.

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          1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            in that case send me her phone number

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          2. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

            Mine too. You know, I still have a picture of her, but only because I could never figure out how they got something that big on a piece of paper that small.

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      5. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

        Which one of the trolls is always carrying on about “sheeple”? And Communism, though he has not a clue of what it is. Anyone have a suggestion about who this really is? I tend to forget the odor of garbage after a while.

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        1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

          I beg to differ. Family lived under Communism forever…. I do know what it is alllll about. Total control:) If that is what you are after, well….it’s gonna happen.

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          1. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            That is exactly what you propose for America. You expect to be exempt. You just want to be a member of the ruling elite.

            As if your useless skin will mean anything to the real power structure when they have finally stomped out all dissent and decency.

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      6. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

        As far as redistribution of wealth, that is occurring. The working
        producers are being robbed of what they create by the filthy useless
        rich that are stealing from them. ALL wealth is being redistributed to
        the top of the income pyramid.

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        1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

          LOL, redistribution of wealth. Are you poor Mr. Byrd? Have you worked hard all your life to be able to live the American Dream only to have it whipped away from you so that the poor and lazy don’t have to work? Yup, Communism promotes no innovation and incites laziness. I have a couple of x-Communist/Communist’s in my family. I do know how that goes. How bout contributing 3/4 of your income to the poor and join them….How would you like the Government to control your life, own your house, your car, and your soul. Why do you think the gap between rich and poor is getting larger?

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          1. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

            “Have you worked hard all your life to be able to live the American Dream
            only to have it whipped away from you . . . ? Yes, I have by rich bullies that take the very best you have and discard you at a whim.

            As well, it is hard to argue with a total liar. We both know that you do not give 3/4 of anything to anybody. Never did, especially in a Communist country.

            Why does the gap between rich and poor get larger? What an idiot and evil scum you are. PROVEN STATISTICS, the rich are getting richer at an unprecedented rate, while doing nothing for their wealth. The true wealth creators have failed to even make par with inflation. SIMPLE: The lower 85% of the population is being starved out. If you cannot even understand the simplest of evidence, then it is futile to reason with you.

            That is why I often substitute a more insulting tone for reasoning. I cannot get even the most simple truth into your skull, so I must just settle for getting your attention.

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          2. Sand_Cat October 30, 2013

            Once again, your delusion shows. Of course all of us who disagree with you are lazy freeloaders who vote to give ourselves handouts. How could we possibly miss your sterling insights into the American condition? Also helps you feel better about all the indefensible things you support.

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      7. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

        Bub, big media is corporate run is skewed to the right. While not
        all media is openly hostile to Progressive issues, most are lukewarm at
        best.

        We DO research. That is why we see your kind as so stupid, bigoted, and down-right evil.

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      8. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

        You are right and the left hate it.

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      9. idamag November 1, 2013

        Looking up that only reinforces your backwoods beliefs is not studying. I feel that most of you hateful, name calling, rhetoric spouting, dips are bigots and probably members of some white supremacy group.

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    3. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

      Excellent insight!

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    4. Richard Holmes October 30, 2013

      The communist left is the sole cause of the condition the US is in. ocommunist in chief, with the help of all his uninformed idiot drones, have done everything unconstitutional trying to destroy this country. If you think this is not true then you are a dolt or a communist. The world can do without you. Please die.

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      1. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

        My goodness — you act as though being a chicken-fuckin’, rooster-lickin’ redneck bigot yahoo is really living!

        That’s your President, goober, and you’ll just behave yourself. Nobody is giving you a choice.

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        1. idamag November 1, 2013

          You notice these trolls expound the word “communism” while enjoying a country that lets them disparage the government. They need to study the word, “Plutocracy.” If they hate our government , let them leave.

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    7. idamag November 1, 2013

      I do think that American intelligence is devolving. It could be because civics is no longer taught in the schools. It could be that electronic social media has caused people to lose the ability to discuss both sides of any question. It could be what passes for entertainment today. Greed has taken over the airwaves. Instead of putting out money to produce entertainment, the big business, television stations are using so called reality shows and reruns over and over. This kind of tripe does not stimulate the imagination nor contribute to knowledge.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker November 1, 2013

        So very true. Those who wallow in greed don’t see their own evils. Today, it’s all about money. There are only four realities of humanity: one, true, good and beautiful. This is what all common decency is comprised of. Men today are useless to stop their own grabbing, pushing, shoving, ranting, raving and greed. To me, they all seem to be in some horrendous mad rush, hurtling themselves to a fate they can never predict nor control. Greed comes and goes only when righteous human beings stand their ground where ethics and principles are concerned.

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      2. Russell Byrd November 1, 2013

        It is a terrible shame, but I am sure you are right on every point.

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  4. Eleanore Whitaker October 30, 2013

    For the neurotic sociopaths of the right, you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. They see themselves as the only possible winners in their own self-created mentally deficient games. At no other time in US history have so many narrow minds shown their truely episodic need to create hate, evil and division. Divide and conquer is all they know. Tell that one to Napolean and the rest of the so-called boi geniuses who thought they’d make it to world control…roflmao.

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    1. disqus_ivSI3ByGmh October 30, 2013

      That’s because they insist on creating their own Facts without regard to what is really happening.

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    2. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

      I think it is a defect of mentality, or maybe out-right mental illness. They argue just for the sake of argument. They seem to enjoy conspiracies and “naming names.” Above all, they seem to thrive on the pain and distress of their fellow man.

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    3. idamag November 1, 2013

      I had a supervisor tell me, first week on the job, you don’t know anything until you know what you don”t know. They don’t know what they don’t know. They just like to argue. It is a failing of the immature.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker November 2, 2013

        Ida…I’m one of those women who has lived in an all male world longer than I ever planned. I had 5 brothers and half brothers, 11 nephews and no nieces until I was in my 30s and I worked in an all male field, environmental engineering, for 24 years and 7 months..I just retired. I don’t miss their daily sniveling at each other, their blatant control games they play OR they daily attempts to demean everything and anything women do. You’d have to have been there for that 24 years to see what a PhD from MIT and a Cambridge Brit do to each other on their “glorious rise to power.”

        I kept a sign posted on the front of my desk, “You are in MY territory NOW!” At first, their bullying used to get to me. This after being married to King Kong for 15 torturous, abusive years and having 2 sons who were born with anti-female authority genes that ignored everything Mom said until they got their asses in a mess they couldn’t figure their way out of..But you probably had the same experiences.

        If EVER I choose to write a non-fiction novel about the men I’ve encountered, it would be a planetary earthquake to end all earthquakes. This goes for the CEOs of the 2 Fortune 50 Companies I worked for right on up to the raging testosterone of the constantly battling engineers. Their entire agenda is to go stone deaf at the sound of a woman’s voice and God help the woman who refuses to play stupid or allow her intelligence to be insulted by male egos more bloated than a Zeppelin. After two decades, I realized men are never satisfied, can’t reach their goals without a lot of trampling of others goals and have war mentalities that don’t just extend to their fantasy perceived “enemies.” So no…I need no man today. I like who I am and don’t much care what any man thinks. My days of being a wind-up doll are over. Now, that wind-up doll ramrods any bull who dares cross over the line of common decency. Mental ill or not. roflmao.

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        1. nirodha November 2, 2013

          Good post, Eleanore! The male testosterone issues that you describe are, in my opinion, why it is time for this country to elect a female president. And, if we had more intelligent women in congress, there would be less posturing and more production.
          Your post also reminded me of “Lysistrata”, the Greek comedy by Aristophanes. The heroine, Lysistrata, lives in ancient Athens, and is sick and tired of all the men constantly fighting wars with the other Greek city-states. She persuades all the Athenian women to withhold sex from their men until they stop their fighting. Guess what happens? No more war! (Maybe that’s where the old ’60s hippie “make love, not war” saying came from!)

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 2, 2013

            Everything I know about men I learned from them…rofl. Being around so many men in my lifetime taught me that no woman can EVER be predictable. That only adds to the arsenal of weapons men use against women. The other thing men taught me? The way to deal with their unreasonable BS is to withdraw all assistance, favors and generosity until they learn the value of cooperation for a common goal. No cooperation? No help from me. This is a tried and true method to accomplish my goals.

            This works for men as well as women who are uncooperative. I don’t have time to wait for their cooperation. Either they go with me or they go without me. Their call…lol.

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        2. idamag November 3, 2013

          I was the only girl born in a generation. I didn’t find it a negative experience. I had a wonderful father and brothers. My favorite job was when I crashed the male only world and worked with 23 men who treated me like a sister.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker November 4, 2013

            I love being female. It offers many opportunities men don’t have. The experience of bringing a life into the world is foremost in my mind. I find men curiously interesting. I like to stand back and study their motivations, their initiatives and their goal orientations.

            A lot of what has happened to manhood these days is a direct result of some men being unable to step away from the dis-reality of what they see and hear in the media.

            I personally do not subscribe to the idea that media today is trustworthy nor does it resemble the Constitutional free press. What’s at work in the US today is the handiwork of men who have had too much money for too long and for whom the only goal left is being the Great Delegator of Mankind.

            I am cynical of most men these days and extremely particular of which males I choose in my circle of friends. Mostly because, now that I’m 66 soon to be 67, I realize I don’t want to waste a single moment of time on uselessness and that includes men who are gamers.

            If they can’t be real, no thanks..rofl.

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          2. idamag November 4, 2013

            Oh, the media (cable news) is not trustworthy. One so-called news station has been called on false reporting. Whenever you have commentators telling you what the news is or what to think you don’t have news. You have an insult. In essence they are saying, “We don’t think you are smart enough to figure these things out for yourself so we will tell you what to think.” .

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker November 4, 2013

            When you get behind their insults to public intelligence, what I see is massive judgmentalism. That’s a real turn-off for me. When I want an opinion, I ask. I don’t need pre-judgments from those who consider themselves autonomous sources of information.

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      2. nirodha November 2, 2013

        That supervisor sounds very Zen. One cannot know anything until they know that which they do not know.

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  5. BPI Squirrel October 30, 2013

    The hyperventilating about long-term debt is based on the myth that the costs of senior care will vanish if we cut Social Security and Medicare. In fact those costs would increase even more, because private, for-profit 401(k) annuities and health insurance have far higher administrative costs than do Social Security and Medicare. Seniors who couldn’t afford those more expensive, for-profit annuities and health insurance would have to rely on their families, or on charity.

    The question is not whether senior care will get more expensive over the coming decades. It will, inevitably, because the senior population will rise by 50% by the year 2040. The question is how to provide for seniors’ retirement and health care in the most cost-efficient way … and the data show the answer is government-managed, not-for-profit Social Security and Medicare.

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    1. Russell Byrd October 30, 2013

      Yes, but a lot of seniors would die, that are currently alive because of Medicare and Social Security. Our increases in life expectancy do have to do with advances in medical treatment. Yet, the availability of treatment is much more important to the survival rate of senior citizens.

      For those that wish to tear these programs down, the removal of large numbers of citizens that they see as useless to their programs of avarice, would be a welcome side effect.

      To use a paraphrase of Mr. Huckabee, a supposed Baptist minister. Ending programs and causing the deaths of disadvantaged and elderly, would just be “necessary, but unfortunate side-effect” of their program. As well, remember Mitt Romney doubted that lack of medical care killed anybody. Their ideas are based on their personal bigotry and economic desires. Their “facts” are manufactured to deny any problems their ideas may create.

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  6. adler56 October 30, 2013

    That information would have to be “injected” into Republicans for them to get it or the President would have to be a white man.

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  7. charleo1 October 30, 2013

    As was noted, our resident Right Winger left out some of the standard fare the folks over at propaganda central try to make sure their faithful hear at least once a day. Never asking, or informing, lest someone might wonder, just what are Republican principals nowadays, anyway? And is there even one they wouldn’t throw under the bus to make a political point? I have noticed, after every GOP blunder, such as shutting down the Government, on a fools errand to defund a healthcare law, that they had zero chance of accomplishing. That resulted in a drop in consumer confidence, and a 24 billion dollar hit to the economy. Now suddenly, it’s all them politicians in Washington are acting like children. I blame them all. It’s bull hockey. Or, such was the case when one elected Republican in Congress, after the next, claimed a default would be no big deal. One Republican Senator Inhoff, said there was really no such thing as a debt ceiling, because we had never went through it. I’ve never been through a cat 5 tornado, but I believe they do exist. In fact, a few of them opined, a good ol’ fashioned default would be good for the markets! Then lacking the guts, or integrity to own up to their miserable failure, the entire fiasco becomes Obama’s shutdown. It is after such episodes, I start reading a lot of, yes, that was stupid, but both Parties are the same. Let’s throw all the bums out! It’s actually a contrivance, that’s used to prevent the Republican Party from ever being held to account on anything. A perfect example of the Right’s absolute refusal to man up, and take responsibility. When George W. Bush was asked, two years into his second term, what he would consider his biggest mistake? Or, things he would do differently. Bush stood there, with this dumb ass look on his face, and after a full minute, and a half, couldn’t come up with a single mistake he would own up to. Or a single thing he would like to do over, or in a different way. Not Katrina, or the invasion of Iraq. Even as the Iraqi War was blowing up in his face, in sectarian violence, neither he, nor any of his advisers seen coming. The Right Wing’s rebuttal to this jaw dropping blunder is all too typical. Well, the Democrats voted for it too. But only after Bush lied to them. Said he would use the military as a last resort, to rid Saddam Hussein of his WMDs.I challenge anyone to name the first Republican to admit Iraq was anything but, something they’d do all over again, in the same exact way. In fact I challenge any supporter of the GOP to name one instance, where a Republicans have not tried to lay mistakes they made, off on the Democrats. Or has admitted responsibility for anything?

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    1. ObozoMustGo October 31, 2013

      Chuckie… you’re delusional about the WMD thing… here’s the proof in their own words… note all the quotes PRIOR to Bush being in office… read it and weep loser…

      Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

      “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

      “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

      “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” –Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

      “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

      “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
      Letter to President Clinton, signed by: — Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

      “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

      “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

      “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by: — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

      “We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

      “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

      “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
      — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

      “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D,
      MA), Sept. 27, 2002

      “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…” — Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

      “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

      “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

      “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

      “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” — Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10,
      2002

      “We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

      “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…” — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

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      1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

        it is sometimes amazing how short their memory is…
        Or maybe not, as long as they keep the benefits coming they will support anything.

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        1. charleo1 October 31, 2013

          I see you’ve done your deep thinking for the day.
          A simple pretext for simpletons, bestowing unlimited
          vindication.

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          1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Chucky
            Some things require deep thinking, like…..
            The implementation of the most important law in your Presidency, why would a reasonably smart President did not consider having hands on in the project to make sure all would go according to plan? That one stills puzzle me…..

            Some things are simple. Most people vote and follow whatever leader does good for their pocket. That is why populist leaders have gain power specially in bad economic times.
            Juan Peron, Adolf Hitler, Lula, Mussolini just to name a few.
            Some have done well….some not so much.

            And sometimes leaders get elected because the other choice was too awful to consider.
            Lets just said, Obama has been very lucky in his timing for elections and for the opponents he has drawn.

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          2. charleo1 October 31, 2013

            Some things are also no brainers. Like when were the
            Republicans going to get around to enacting a National
            Health Plan? Since we’re the only Country with indoor
            toilets that didn’t have one. How many million would
            the GOP have had reporting to emergency rooms for
            their healthcare, before they would have done the work,
            and took the considerable political risk involved in taking
            on the biggest driver of the public debt? The answer is
            of course, they had no intention of ever addressing the
            problem. Or lifting a finger to help others to do it either.
            They figured it to be a bit too risky for their taste. Truth
            be told, for all their chest thumping, and strutting about,
            they are at heart, spineless lackeys, forever licking the
            boots, and carrying the water for their corporate bosses.
            Plus, if we’re comparing folks to Hitler, and the authoritarian
            NAZI Party. Who most resembles them today? With their
            ceaseless pounding their war drums. And constant moralizing over sex, rape, birth control, and their obsession over their lack of control over the private lives of women in this Country? Who most resembles Hitler in assuming this was an approiate area for the State to stick it’s big intrusive nose into? It’s not Barack Obama. Frankly, I think you ought to be ashamed to compare the election of Adolph Hitler, or Fascists like Mussolini, to the election of Barack Obama. Or the recessionary economy he inherited, to the hyper inflation of the Weimar Republic, of the 1930s. And, since when did it become alright to compare the election of arguably the vilest human being to ever live. With the American public throwing out the bums that ran their Country’s economy in the ditch?
            As I said, you Right Wingers have no shame. There is no
            bright lines anymore with you people. None of you have the least bit of compunction about picking the first thing that pops in your heads, and hurling it at the enemy. And that would be anyone that has the temerity to disagree with you.

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          3. Germansmith October 31, 2013

            Little sensitive about that Hitler thing?. I also put Peron and Lula there in the list. missed those for a chance to get righteously offended ?

            Those leaders I put in the list are examples of demagogues that promise a great deal to get elected and their action are not always good for the country.
            Your fearless leader is screwing up a lot lately and I am not comparing Obama to Hitler.

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        2. ObozoMustGo November 1, 2013

          German… Agreed. It’s hard to have a memory longer than pushpin when you’re drunk on Obozomania and the lies of the left about a promised Utopia that NEVER comes. They are delusional… clearly!

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      2. charleo1 October 31, 2013

        While I appreciate the many quotes from various Democrats, it doesn’t negate the fact that the Bush Administration had determined to go into Iraq, even prior to the events of 9/11. For purposes that had nothing to do with WMDs. And if Bill Clinton suspected Saddam Hussein had an arsenal of WMDs, or was rebuilding his chemical,
        or biological catches, he obviously did not consider the intelligence trustworthy enough to invade the Country. For reasons the Bush invasion made perfectly clear. But Bush 43 was a much different President than either Clinton, or his Father. Bush surrounded himself with neocons like Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Armitage. And pressured intelligence agencies to provide him with the intel on which he could build the case for war. Both in Congress, and with the American people. The records are clear in this. George Tenet, the CIA director now famous for his, “slam dunk,” certainty Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear program, was based on information, we
        now know, he could not, given his level of experience, have possibly
        considered reliable. In fact he knew the aluminum tubes, were far too light weight for uranium enrichment. And the yellow cake story was debunked, and the invoiced used as proof, determined to be made up, or forged. Before Bush presented both in the State of the Union speech in 2003. Intelligence agents like Richard Clark, who’s sole job was to monitor Saddam Hussein, was in his words flabbergasted, that these two discredited pieces of information would be presented to the American public as hard fact. While Cheney was spinning tales of a secret meeting between Al Qaeda operatives, and people from the Iraqi government in Germany. A meeting neither he nor anyone else, has provided an ounce of proof. But, Cheney, and Condie Rice were on the Sunday talk shows presenting it as fact. With the talking point of, “Let’s don’t let a smoking gun become a mushroom cloud.” In addition, Congress was never told, that much of the information was provided by an operative code named, “Curve Ball.” It was revealed later, much of their so called indisputable, and damning intelligence was provided by a one Rafid Ahmed, Alwan Al-Janabi. An Iraqi ex-pat, needing a green card, and telling the Bush Administration what they wanted to hear. (They never checked.)
        And this is what I’m talking about. The Republicans will never admit,
        or take responsibility for their actions. Well, Bush said, Everyone
        thought he, (Saddam,) had WMDs. Actually, no they didn’t. Allied
        intelligence agencies attempted again, again, to dissuade Bush
        from an invasion. And warned him of the unreliability of the intel he
        was using as his basis for war. This is not some conjecture. Files
        released from a recorded British Intelligence report reveal, they had
        concluded, the Bush Administration was cherry picking through the
        intel, irrespective of it’s validity. And was intent on going to war.
        “Hell bent,” was the words I recall them using, when I heard the
        published, and replayed recording. Of course, the war wrecked
        the political career of Tony Blair, and his Party. And cast a pall
        of mistrust of the United States, around the World. But the GOP,
        incapable of shame, and impossible to chasten, strut around, their
        heads held high. They have their tale of absolution, parroted
        proudly by their trained, and willfully ignorant minions. Who make
        certain, their Party, since Nixon, has never admitted wrongdoing.
        And as far as they’re concerned, will never have to.

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        1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

          The Iraq war was unnecessary and dumb. I knew it back them as well

          If the loyal opposition (the Democrats) would have done their job and oppose it, instead of rubber stamped for fear of their political careers, maybe we would not have been stupid enough to invade and get stuck in that country for over a decade.

          Democrats that were sitting in Congress back them have NO right to criticize. Their hands are as dirty with the blood of hundreds of thousands of people that perish due to our involvement

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          1. charleo1 October 31, 2013

            Have the Republicans ever screwed up anything, they didn’t get around just like you did, to blaming the Democrats? Incredibly for backing the Republican President. But you couldn’t have
            known it. You may have suspected it. But only by intuition.
            Like those Democrats in Congress, they weren’t privy to all
            the intel shown to the President. And unlike your guess, they
            were dealing with a real world situation, Bush was telling them
            they couldn’t afford to oppose.

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          2. Germansmith November 1, 2013

            Not intuition only. There were plenty of reports from IMPARTIAL international inspectors that show no evidence Saddam had any nuclear WMD…..they ALL decided to ignore those and go along with Bushie

            Republicans screw up a lot of things…..so what?
            Do stupid Republicans give the right for Democrats to be stupid, feeble or cowards? Or immune to any criticism?

            It would be easy to tag me as a right wing Republican and that would excuse you for giving no thought to my critical comments about our current lot of stupid politicians.
            The fact is I shower idiotic Republicans equally or worst that I do Obama and his merry band.

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        2. idamag November 1, 2013

          Always check out his quotes. He is noted for misquoting and downright lying. He has proven to be a racist during the campaigns.

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  8. bernieo October 30, 2013

    Ever notice that in all the discussion of, and money spent on, education reform no one talks about what is needed to prepare kids to be effective citizens, not just better workers? We require tests for math and science to get funding but not tests on history or government. My city has science and math magnets but not one that promotes citizenship. Nazi Germany and the USSR had great scientists and mathematicians who had no qualms about promoting their totalitarian agendas. We even have guys in Congress who clearly have no clue about our government – one recently talked about the four branches – or our history. I bet a lot of them couldn’t even pass the citizenship exam.

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  9. mandinka October 30, 2013

    There are so many ignerant democrats out there, it’s not funny.

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    1. jointerjohn October 30, 2013

      Misspelling the word ignorant turns it from a term into a label. Nice job.

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    2. ObozoMustGo October 30, 2013

      dink… I know what you mean. Ignorance is the hallmark of the DemonRAT voter. Check out this website:

      http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

      Also, check your spelling.

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    3. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

      Nice job, ManDingDong! You tell ’em!

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  10. Allan Richardson October 30, 2013

    Maybe you CAN fool all of the people all of the time. At least all of those you plan to allow to vote!

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  11. ObozoMustGo October 30, 2013

    Gene Lyons, useful idiot du jour, once again trying to carry the water for the Obozo regime through the purposeful mischaracterization of simple numbers. Gene, you give yellow journalism a good name.

    Let’s examine the facts:

    1) It’s no coincidence that spending is coming down AFTER Republicans took control of the purse strings in Jan. 2011. The evidence of Obozo’s spending when he controlled the Congress totally suggests that without a Republican sweep of the House, we’d be waaaaaayyyy worse off financially. This is not disputable.

    2) The sequester was Obozo’s idea that he later tried to demagogue into potential disaster for the world if it stayed in place and blamed Republicans for it. Well, the end of the world never came, of course, and when Bob Woodward published the truth about the sequester being Obozo’s idea, everyone knew Obozo was just lying blowhard. Now it seems, the sequester that was his idea that became not his idea is now responsible for what Obozo and the leftist freaks are calling a good thing… a deficit of only $652 BILLON. You people are nuts!

    3) The largest annual deficit under the profligate Bush was $450B. I find it odd how the leftist freaks of the world now trumpet a deficit of $652B as though it is some victory. Not even close to reality. It’s a disaster through and through. Obozo is Bush on steroids when it comes to profligate spending.

    Here are some more facts for you leftist freaks to ponder.

    Federal Receipts/Spending, Per the Office of Management & Budget website:

    Clinton era Avg Taxes Collected per year $1.55 trillion
    Clinton era Avg Spending per year $1.59 trillion
    Clinton Average deficit per year $40 billion

    Bush era Avg Taxes Collected per year $2.14 trillion
    Bush era Avg Spending per year $2.39 trillion
    Bush Average deficit per year $251 billion

    Obama era Avg Taxes Collected per year $2.35 trillion
    Obama era Avg Spending per year $3.56 trillion
    Obama Average deficit per year $1,213 billion (or $1.213
    trillion)

    The Congressional Budget Office claims that Obama will add more to the National Debt in his two terms in office than all other previous presidents COMBINED!

    Put that in your bongs and smoke it!

    Have a nice day!

    Sen. Barack Obama’s Floor Speech, March 20, 2006 — “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that “the buck stops here.” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

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    1. lvfilm October 30, 2013

      @ObozoMustGo, yup, that just about says it all:) I guess they just don’t get it. Even when the chips are going deeper and deeper into the cesspool they still cling miraculously to their Savior. Their idealized cloud of dung. Yah, the bong sounds about right especially since their brains have become so fried by prior usage that they think their superiority supersedes every one else who has a different way of thinking. That’s what drugs for you. They research little and flower us with innuendos such as troll, liar (I don’t see how we’re liars we are just expressing our own views). Doesn’t state much. They come over to our sites which are way more intellectual. Just an observation. I think I will go back to my troll hole and visit with my own patriots who think the way I do never to return again. I see what you mean GermanSmith. Nice to see others over on these posts who think the way I do. They tend to bicker with each other too. Something I really haven’t seen my fellow Conservatives do. Again, just an observation:)

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      1. ObozoMustGo October 31, 2013

        Interesting how I got no responses on my posting of facts. The useful idiots and leftist freaks floating around in this sewer called The Memo can’t handle the truth. That’s why they love Obozo…. he lies every time he opens that fetid pie hole of his.
        Have a nice day!

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        1. infadelicious October 31, 2013

          truth and facts are to leftist freaks what kryptonite is to superman. deadly! They see it right in front of them and flee, bleating all the way

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  12. mandinka October 30, 2013

    THe only way libs can make the argument is to change the argument. Barak and his dems have added $10T to the national debt. It works out to $150,000 for every new born. And after all this red ink what did we get?? Better roads better schools better HC nope just an IOU passed on to our children because barak has spent their inheritance

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    1. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

      Oh!

      Just what we needed — another lying, bacca-spittin’, sister-humpin’, chicken-lickin’ redneck yahoo lost looking for WND!

      Hey goober — go back out, take a hard right, take another hard right, stick your head up you ass and you’ll be in the right place for silly bullshit.

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  13. itsfun October 30, 2013

    lets see 1.55 trillion in 2009 and 17 trillion in 2013. Must be the new math.

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    1. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

      What type of redneck math would that be? It’s not the numbers for the national debt — that’s for sure. Could it be the number of lies told in public by Tea Bigots? That would seem about right.

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      1. itsfun October 31, 2013

        Could be the number of lies told by Obama. That seems right to many of us.

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  14. mandinka October 30, 2013

    THe only way repubs can make the argument is to change the argument. Boehner
    and his repubs have added $10T to the national debt. It works out to
    $150,000 for every new born. And after all this red ink what did we
    get?? Better roads better schools better HC nope just an IOU passed on
    to our children because Boehner has spent their inheritance

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    1. WhutHeSaid October 30, 2013

      Now you are a LITTLE bit closer. Of course, your numbers don’t reflect anything real (neither Boner nor Obama have been in office long enough to accumulate $10 trillion in debt). But hey — we did get two wonderfully expensive wars and a near depression, does that count?

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  15. montanabill October 30, 2013

    When the President and former candidate, stands before the American public and tells bald faced lies, it is simply hard to fathom. It was one thing when Clinton looked us in the eye and stated he hadn’t had sex with that woman, but when the current President stands before us and virtually every word out of his mouth contradicts his previous statements, or are half-truths, or are simply flat out lies, you can color the public confused. How did we elect such a person? Why does 1/3 of the country go out of their way to apologize or attempt to cover for this person? That is the story of your ignorant public.

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  16. Kevin McIntyre October 30, 2013

    Mistake number 1, The United States is NOT a Democracy. The United States is a democratically elected Republic.

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    1. idamag November 1, 2013

      How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? A Democracy is a government by the people. So a Republic can be a Democracy,

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  17. tiredofitall October 31, 2013

    Who controlled the congress when Clinton was in office? Newt, newt something… and today, what percentage of the US GDP is debt? Do we all wish we were making headway on paying off our debt like the fed is?

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    1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

      If you are doing worst than the feds paying their debt, you need some serious credit and financial advise…or you are out of a job, living of government benefits and have the full right to be a Democrat

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      1. idamag November 1, 2013

        “If you are doing worst…” Is English your first language?

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        1. Germansmith November 1, 2013

          nope, my third…how about you? How many can you read and write?

          If all you have is nitpicking about how I use any language while posting online….you are a sad case

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          1. nirodha November 2, 2013

            Are you as poor in the other two?

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  18. john doe October 31, 2013

    United States National Debt$17,385,188,914,047.01United States National Debt Per Person$54,785.43United States National Debt Per Household$141,894.27Total US Unfunded Liabilities$125,741,379,881,660.95Social Security Unfunded Liability$15,689,660,096,826.63Medicare Unfunded Liability$80,519,246,232,581.36Prescription Drug Unfunded Liability$20,222,900,868,454.35National Healthcare Unfunded Liability$9,309,572,683,798.63Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Person$396,245.09Total US Unfunded Liabilities Per Household$1,026,274.78United States Population317,332,337

    thats the real time debt clock and it still says 17 trillion every time i look it up so i must be blind or stupid as this article as said Obama has cut our debt in half.

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    1. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

      I am guessing you are just stupid and that clock is on the wall of Faux Noise, etc.

      By the way, look up the derivative market and see what that figure is. Where did all that come from, mostly from the workers in this nation. If we had 2% of it back, we would never have another interest payment to make on our debts and our government would be fully funded.

      You are just parroting what our right-wing money machine has spoon fed you to say. . . .

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    2. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

      Well John Dolt, the article states that the DEFICIT has been halved — not the national debt. You do know the difference between the two, don’t you? Allow me to assist you:

      The deficit is US revenue minus US expenses. Negative is deficit, positive is surplus.

      The debt is the amount owed by the US for things like two unfunded wars, unfunded tax cuts for the wealthy, etc. This is a number that accumulates — historically faster under Republican administrations — and cannot go down until paid down by a surplus (above).

      Now that’s the simple version, so take your crayons out and see if you can color within the lines.

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      1. Germansmith October 31, 2013

        Thank you sequester for reducing our deficit.
        , but Is Ok. Wait until we get the bill for Obamacare, that puppy will be growing again.

        And of course the money spend is NOT going to account for lost opportunities, increase premiums to those not eligible for the subsidies and the VERY REAL possibility for increase unemployment….
        Of course the Republicans will get the blame in here as for anything else…..because Democrats can do no wrong.

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        1. WhutHeSaid October 31, 2013

          The Republicans made the deficit in the first place, as usual. Republican administrations have ALWAYS been the hands-down champions of runaway spending. They just continuously lie about it.

          The unemployment spike was all Republican too. But Obama has made a dent in both even though you bigots are doing your best to obstruct everything. You’ve managed to slow the recovery down and prolong the suffering by many Americans, but you haven’t won anything. Voters will remember when the next election comes, and by the looks of the polls after the Republibigot government shutdown you’ve only managed to go up your own collective ass.

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    3. idamag November 1, 2013

      “John Doe?” I think several states have police that are looking for John Doe. This is simple economics: The consumer drives the economy. The consumer pays taxes to fix the national debt. If we stiff the consumer we all lose. No amount of austerity will fix the problem if there aren’t enough income for the consumer.

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  19. Andrew Freeland October 31, 2013

    To lvfilm: It is beyond laughable to call Obamacare (working with private, capitalist insurance cos.); the current tax code, which preserves a good part of Bush’s tax cuts to the wealthy; the very existence of such a tremendous wealth divide between the top few % and others in the USA “Communism”. It matters not whether you or your parents lived in such a system; I feel for your family, but people vote with their feet – why then are so many trying to come here – Mexicans, Chinese, Indians, on and on – these are doctors, engineers, scientists, and hardworking laborers, nannies – “Communism” talk is just absurd Tea Party rhetoric and NOTHING more, and most Americans know it – that’s why the Teas haven’t retaken the Senate (in ’10 or ’12), lost both the Repub. nomination and the Presidency in ’12, and even lost several House seats in ’12 (for a smaller majority in the one chamber they control). Their only hope, with their very unpopular policy positions, is (guffaw, chuckle) “voter ID” – a virtual modern Jim Crow poll tax. If these laws are upheld, watch what happens to minority voting percentages – they will plummet, and not because of their being illegitimate – but because of the hassle and running around necessary to provide sufficient “documentation”. Wealthy folks, with good transportation, gas money, plenty of time off – can easily do the legwork. Some disabled folks, poor folks, rural poor folks, young poor folks (many aka “Democrats’) can’t accomplish this so easily; this, then is the great shining hop for the GOP/Teas – restricted voting, their only way to win!

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    1. Russell Byrd October 31, 2013

      Impressive!

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  20. Annemb November 3, 2013

    ”The cornerstone of democracy rests on an informed electorate.” Thomas
    Jefferson

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    1. Progressive Republican November 4, 2013

      “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.” Winston Churchill

      Seems ol’ Winnie concurs.

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      1. Annemb November 4, 2013

        Winston Churchill was a smart man and a great statesman.

        Thanks for your post.

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