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Kerry Cautions Israel: Two-State Solution Is Now In ‘Serious Jeopardy’

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Kerry Cautions Israel: Two-State Solution Is Now In ‘Serious Jeopardy’

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Kerry, Israel, Two-State Solutions

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry warned on Wednesday that Israel’s building of settlements was endangering Middle East peace, expressing unusually frank frustration with the long-time American ally.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu shot back at Kerry and accused him of showing bias against the Jewish state.

In a 70-minute speech just weeks before the Obama administration hands over to President-elect Donald Trump, Kerry said Israel “will never have true peace” with the Arab world if it does not reach an accord based on Israelis and Palestinians living in their own states.

His remarks added to strain in the U.S.-Israeli relationship — characterized by personal acrimony between President Barack Obama and Netanyahu — after the United States cleared the way for a U.N. resolution last week that demanded an end to Israeli settlement building.

“Despite our best efforts over the years, the two-state solution is now in serious jeopardy,” Kerry said at the State Department. “We cannot, in good conscience, do nothing, and say nothing, when we see the hope of peace slipping away.”

“The truth is that trends on the ground – violence, terrorism, incitement, settlement expansion and the seemingly endless occupation – are destroying hopes for peace on both sides and increasingly cementing an irreversible one-state reality that most people do not actually want.”

Kerry condemned Palestinian violence which he said included “hundreds of terrorist attacks in the past year.”

His parting words are unlikely to change anything on the ground between Israel and the Palestinians or salvage the Obama administration’s record of failed Middle East peace efforts.

In a statement, Netanyahu said Kerry’s speech “was skewed against Israel.” The Israeli leader said Kerry “obsessively dealt with settlements” and barely touched on “the root of the conflict – Palestinian opposition to a Jewish state in any boundaries”.

The Israelis are looking past Obama and expect they will receive more favorable treatment from Trump, who takes office on Jan. 20. The Republican used his Twitter account on Wednesday to denounce the Obama administration, including its U.N. vote and the nuclear accord it reached with Iran last year.

“We cannot continue to let Israel be treated with such total disdain and disrespect. They used to have a great friend in the U.S., but not anymore,” Trump said in a series of tweets. “Stay strong Israel, January 20th is fast approaching!”

Trump had openly lobbied against the U.N. resolution and would be expected to veto any further ones deemed anti-Israel.

He has vowed to move the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and has appointed as ambassador a lawyer who raised money for a major Jewish settlement, has cast doubt on the idea of a two-state solution and even advocated for Israel’s annexation of the West Bank, a notion even further to the right than Netanyahu’s own stance.

IMPASSIONED SPEECH

Kerry’s speech provided some insights into an issue that he personally feels passionate about and had hoped to resolve during his years as secretary of state.

He defended the U.S. decision to allow the passage of a U.N. resolution demanding an end to Israeli settlements, saying it was intended to preserve the possibility of a two-state solution.

The United States abstained in the Dec. 23 U.N. resolution, in what many see as a parting shot by Obama who had an acrimonious relationship with Netanyahu.

Kerry vigorously defended the U.N. resolution and rejected criticism “that this vote abandons Israel”.

“It is not this resolution that is isolating Israel. It is the permanent policy of settlement construction that risks making peace impossible.”

In a pointed reply to Netanyahu who said last week that “Friends don’t take friends to the Security Council”, and who has insisted the Obama administration had orchestrated the resolution, Kerry hit back, saying: “Friends need to tell each other the hard truths, and friendships require mutual respect.”

Kerry defended Obama’s commitment to Israel’s security and U.S. support for Israel in international platforms. Earlier this year, the United States and Israel agreed a $38 billion in military assistance over the next decade.

(Additional reporting by Matt Spetalnick in Washington and Jeffrey Heller in Jerusalem; Writing by Yara Bayoumy; Editing by Alistair Bell)

IMAGE: U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry (L) meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Manhattan, New York, U.S., September 23, 2016. REUTERS/Darren Ornitz/File Picture

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  1. Dan S December 28, 2016

    Trump saying help is on the way is the equivalent of an arsonist volunteering to fight the fire he set. Trump is stumbling into a very contentious issue that has vexed this region for decades. I’m afraid Trump will inflame tensions over there & create a Mideast crisis that the US can’t get out of once we interject ourselves in it. Israel is not be confused with the Apprentice or a business deal

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 28, 2016

      Great post, Dan. And you’re absolutely right about a reality TV showman being out of his league to deal with the Mid-East.

  2. stsintl December 28, 2016

    I think, rather than abstain, US should have voted FOR the resolution to confirm it’s commitment to “Human Rights” around the world. We have had enough of the “Tail” wagging the “Dog”.

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    1. A_Real_Einstein December 28, 2016

      How do you negotiate peace with a people that elects Hamas to its leadership after you pulled out your settlements in Gaza in good faith? How do you negotiate peace with a people that hurl thousands of rockets at your citizens and committ terrorist acts against innocent civilians?

      1. stsintl December 28, 2016

        It has been made very clear to us by “Jewish Voice for Peace”, “B’Tselem” and “Nutrei Karta” that Judaism is a religion and Semitism refers to tribes of the Middle East and that not all Zionists are Jews and not all Jews are Zionists. So, what is Zionism and who are the Zionists? Here is what I understand Zionism to be.

        “We must expel Arabs and take their places.” David Ben Gurion, future Prime Minister of Israel, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

        “Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment… Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly.” Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

        “We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.” Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

        “We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out’”Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

        “We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” Israel Koenig, “The Koenig Memorandum”

        Rabin’s description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. “We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters” Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion’s special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From “The Arabs in Israel” by Sabri Jiryas.

        1. A_Real_Einstein December 29, 2016

          Nice propaganda. Which terrorist organization are you with?

      2. charleo1 December 29, 2016

        For starters, the people in Gaza, or the West Bank didn’t hurl the rockets. But paid the price for the deed with the literal blood of their children. By what standard can that be characterized as fair, or righteous? Remember, Hamas was the result of the Bush Administration refusing to deal with Arafat’s P.L.O. And insisting the Palestinians hold elections for new leadership.. Then, when the result of the elections, they called for, were not to their liking, they also refused to sit down with Hamas. Eventually managing to politically divide West Bank from Gaza. Creating two separate factions for the peace seekers to try and bargain with. Which undoubtedly pleased hard liners like Netanyahu, and their Zionists Allies in the U.S. Congress. Or hard liner Arabs, who dream of caliphates, and see the injustice in Palestine as a cause that will finally unite the Arab World. Neither of these factions seek peace, because they do not desire peace. Nor will either ever agree to any solution but the one they impose by force. As one war monger washes the hands of the other.
        So my question is the same. How is one to expect the Arab in Palestine to negotiate in good faith with people who show no interest in negotiation? No desire for equitable solution? Who in the case of Israel in fact is now creating barriers to a two-state, land for peace solution. As they continue to annex for themselves the only bargaining chip on the table where peace may be achieved.
        And yet, the U.S. is expected to stand by this? And to not only to stand by it, but throw in with the haters, and extremists like Netanyahu. And help the Jewish State make war against their Arab neighbor. Otherwise, we’re accused of turning our backs on our dear friend, and ally. And this we, and the World are supposed to swallow, or be accused of throwing Israel under the bus, of antisemitism. Trump’s position is an outrage that could very well will set the powder keg ablaze. And make the dreams of the worst elements of humanity come true.

        1. A_Real_Einstein December 29, 2016

          When the leadership of the Palestinians recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state then we may negotiate a long lasting peace. Until then it ain’t happening. I suppose you think we should just sit down and negotiate with ISIS? Are you that stupid? Building apartment buildings is equal to murder?Israel has never attacked anyone without significant provocation. The people of Palestine show no interest in peace when they elect terrorists and put in their charter the complete destruction of Israel and the death of every Jew on earth. You are completely full of it. Unlike other Arab nations the Palestinians must and never have recognized Israel’s right to exist, first.

          1. charleo1 December 29, 2016

            You’re being dishonest. The Netanyahu Gov. is being the same. And you know it. Building entire neighborhoods now totaling more than 500,000 new settlers, intentionally placed in such a way as to make a contiguous Palestinian State impossible to construct, is in fact eating the pie. while pretending you’re ready to bargain for the pie, if, and when certain conditions are met. Btw. The PLO officially recognized Israel’s Right to exist more than 40 years ago.

          2. A_Real_Einstein December 29, 2016

            People can be resettled as you know and as Israel has done in the past. Innocent civilians as a result of violence and terrorism cannot become undead. The Palestinians have Never recognized Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state. You can provide no source. Recently the PA has agreed to a 2 state solution in which Palestinians would be granted “Right of return” in which literally any Palestinian could settle in Israel and demand full citizenship resulting in 2 Arab states. At the same time the people of Gaza have elected a terrorist organization funded by Iran who have in their charter that Israel should be anhilated and all Jews on Earth should be killed. Once Palestinians demonstate that Israel right to exist as a Jewish state and Hamas is removed from leadership, then meaningful dialogue may begin. You are either misinformed or do not agree with Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state.

          3. charleo1 December 30, 2016

            Now how do we suppose to remove a legitimately elected Party?
            Look, as I explained, and you ignored. Hamas, a very hard line, RW organization with a militant terrorist arm, coming into legitimacy, was the direct result of an obstinate, bone headed, hard line approach of the Bush Adm. And its insistence of open elections in Palestine. I will include a source rebutting your insistence Israelis Right to exist has never been officially recognized by a Palestinian Authority.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Palestine_Liberation_Organization_letters_of_recognition

          4. A_Real_Einstein December 30, 2016

            There is no such thing as a terrorist organization that is legitimate. Is Hamas interested in Peace with Israel? It does not matter how the Palestinians remove the terrorists in their leadership. They must if they ever expect peace in their region. It is burden of the Palestinians to demonstrate they they will act as peaceful neighbors to Israel like the Egyptians and Jordanians. To date the Palestinians have done the opposite through acts of violence and terrorism. The PLO led by aArafat were terrorists too and the US will never negotiate with terrorists.

          5. charleo1 December 30, 2016

            Say what you will. Hamas is every bit as legitimate to many of the Palestinians as any faction we might choose for them. Where we say yes, now we will talk with these people, but not those. Would you accept that? Plus, it seems they [Hamas] are at least as interested in peace as Benjamin Netanyahu. And..if we think we have a terrorist problem now., We just think we have a terrorist problem. As time, intransigency, and placing obstacles to prevent solutions, are no one’s friend. Now you evidently do not believe that. But it’s true, nonetheless. Israeli has roots, and Rights, as the Palestinians have the same. Right now, Israel holds the power card as long as we take the heat, the blowback, and pay the bills. And lately it seems, keeping our mouths shut is also part of the bargain, if we want to remain in Israel’s good graces. I think that’s more and more becoming a really dicy political ask of a lot of American taxpayers, and also Americans like myself, who want to see both sides reach a compromised and fair solution while the opportunity to do so still exists.

          6. A_Real_Einstein December 31, 2016

            yes,

            Anyone who believes that Hamas is legitimate must be a Jew hater and terrorist sympathizer. Tou cannot just pass it off some Arabs want to kill all the Jews. This is the disgusting leadership of the Palestinians you support.

            Hamas is a terrorist organization created by the Muslim Brotherhood (who is also the arm of Al-Qaeda).

            Officially Hamas plays on Leftist ideals in efforts to gain public support to recruit terrorists and gain international sympathies for their ‘victimization’.

            Internally the Hamas has consistently stated intentions of fighting for a singular Islamic state, whether it is in Israel with a complete extermination of Jews, or beyond Israel in other non-Muslim nations.

            Hamas provide social care to Hamas supporters on the condition that they pledge alliance to Hamas. Children who attend Hamas funded education can only do so if parents sign oaths of allegiance.

            Indoctrination of antisemitism and extremism with glorification of suicide martyrdoom is commonly taught to children by Hamas.

            https://palestineisraelconflict.wordpress.com/what-is-hamas/

            http://www.newsweek.com/hamas-plans-13-public-executions-gaza-strip-attorn...

            Hamas publicly executes those that are sympathetic to Israel and homosexuals. Nice company you keep. There is absolutely no defending such an organization or the people that elected them. End of story, full stop.
            If I were a terrorist sympathizer in this country I would keep a very low profile and never broadcast my beliefs. Good luck.

          7. charleo1 December 31, 2016

            I know, you’d agree to have anyone that disagrees with you, shot as a terrorist sympathizer. Which reveals the utter waste of my time replying to your fact-less claptrap. Tell what you idiots ought to do.
            Put up, or shut up. That’s right! Quit beating around the bush on this. Put another 2-3 hundred thousand American troops in Israel and let the attacks begin. Since peace is clearly not your intent, I suggest you drop the pretense. And proceed to carry out a wholesale genocide on the entire Arab population therein. HOw’s that for agree with you?
            All in the name of our good friend, and cherished ally, the falsely democratic, racially bent apartheid Jewish State of Israel. And any American that dare voice any opposition…jail ’em as a terrorist sympathizer. How’s that for American ideals?

          8. A_Real_Einstein December 31, 2016

            No need for any American troops in Israel. When you and the terrorists you support agree to recognize Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state then the Palestinians will be granted their own state as the Israelis have offered repeatedly. Until you agree to allow for a Jewish sovereign state you can expect that the disputed territories will be occupied and the settlement activity will continue. So far these offers have been responded to with missiles, hand grenades, terrorism and threats of wiping all the Jews off of the face of the earth.This response has resulted in a lot of dead Palestinians and their cities being turned to rubble. Perhaps it is time for new leadership in Gaza?

          9. charleo1 January 1, 2017

            I, me, an American citizen, can effect the political consensus of the Palestinians by calling them terrorists, and withdrawing my supposed support for them as such? And therefore, you contend on that basis there’ll be no need of American troops, or another American taxpayer funded Mid-East war, to enforce the hard line Israeli positions in Palestine? Don’t be so naive as to think it will not eventually come to that irrespective of any consensus here. Any position you might ascribe to me.
            And then when it does, what do we get out of the deal for all our blood, and treasure? Peace? Israel’s friendship? Hardly. A Russian backed hard line, Assad regime continues empowering Iran’s, equipping, and funding Hezbollah. So it’s the Iranians next that must be called out, named as terrorists, and taken down in the name of supporting, and securing our dear Jewish Allies at all costs. Then there’s Iraq, Iran’s staunch ally we ourselves created, and built an army for, who would, must join the fight against us with Iran. So be it, then? Is that right? Anything, any sacrifice we make for Israel’s security is money well spent? Is that right? Which will come to mean annihilating any in the World who see Israel’s illegal occupation as anything but God’s grace bestowed upon his chosen people. And the Arab? He can settle for whatever Netanyahu deems fair, and be glad he’s still alive. Do you know how rat hole ridiculous you sound with this nonsense?

          10. A_Real_Einstein January 1, 2017

            Yes you should stop supporting terrorists. The Arabs can’t get along with themselves so let them have their civil war and we shall continue to fully support Israel who are not terrorists and provide a very important partnership with the Western world as a free market economy and a democracy based on our system and values. I do not sympathesize with terrorists and neither should any American. Hezbollah is also a terrorist organization and what meet the same fate if they attack us or any of our allies. We should not have troops in Iraq or Syria either. Let them fight it out and determine their own borders. Maybe then we will have a lasting peace. May the one who brings Peace in the heavens, may that Peace descend upon us , upon Israel and across the world. The Jews pray for peace every day , the Arabs not so much.

          11. charleo1 January 1, 2017

            Only they don’t provide a very strategic partnership. And what partnership there is, more than not, has us bending over backward to enable their 50 year illegal, and unsanctioned occupation of land not granted to them, but to the Palestinians. Now they’re hinting at war with their nemesis Iran to settle the issue once and for all. And demanding we, the U.S. fight it for them. As to shared values, the Fundamentalist here weirdly proclaim they are supporting Israel to uphold deeply held “Christian values.” By defending at all cost the tribe of people our Bible, (the one they read) tells them rejected, and crucified the man we Christians call our Messiah. So explain that one while you’re talking about all the values we, and they share.
            Plus they’re not even all that democratic, or Capitalistic. As if we go around the World fighting for Capitalism, while half our corporate community is in bed with the Chinese Communist. It’s laughable!
            The rest of your post is plain drivel….Jews pray for peace, while the Arabs, all terrorists, do not…It’s worthless claptrap. The Book says that swords must be beaten into plowshares.” by Peacemakers. Blessed are the Peacemakers, it says… It doesn’t say praying will in any way make swords become plowshares, and peace will come descending down from heaven like a gift. It’s pap. If we want peace on Earth, mankind needs to take responsibility, and work for it.

          12. A_Real_Einstein January 1, 2017

            Nearly all Americans agree that Israel was legally settled by the Jews as a new Jewish state for the European Jews seeking refuge from the holocaust. There is no discussion of the Israeli occupation or settlement as being illegal any way in this country. Most Americans are in awe of Israel for the democracy and economy that they have built in spite of the hostile enemies that surround them . Many consider Israel to be the closest political and economic system to us. Did you know that their are over 1,000,000 Arab Israeli citizens? By the way, despite our flaws , the USA is still the greatest country on earth until now.
            When the Palestinians rid themselves of the Iranian funded terrorism and acknowledge Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state, then they will get their sovereign nation assuming the Dems control the WH. Until then, expect a lot more failure and frustration.
            Yes I do believe that Iran will be destroyed if they do not stop sponsoring terrorism. Putin and Trump are crazy and are going to try to corner the world’s oil market. They are looking for any excuse to steal Arab oil. Watch Putin turn on Iran. Watch how Trump drops the sanctions on Russia.

          13. charleo1 January 1, 2017

            This Country didn’t create Israel. Remember that. And there’s a whole other World out there that is very concerned, and does view the Israeli occupation outside of the UN mandated territories that created the State of Israel, illegal. Also if most Americans cared all that much about Israel, they would have kept Trump out of the WH. And understood that Putin is not a friend of the Jew. So I do actually agree with your observations on Trump. And I agree with our military, that launching a war upon the Nation of Iran, would be a much bigger blunder, with far more dire implications, not only Israel, but for the U.S. than even Iraq.

          14. A_Real_Einstein January 1, 2017

            The UN created Israel and President Harry S. Truman confirmed its existence as a Jewish state. In 1948, upon the expiration of the British mandate in Palestine, the Palestinians were also offered its own state and refused. Instead 5 Arab nations attacked Israel and lost resulting in new expanded boundaries for Israel.

          15. charleo1 January 2, 2017

            What you point out is true. But it doesn’t change the fundamentals of the original UN Charter. And as long as Israel insists on occupying the captured territory, especially given the barricaded conditions imposed in Gaza, and the West Bank, there can never be peace between the two peoples. As long as factions on both sides insist on each calling the other demons, and evil. As long as they can whip up hatred, and build their coalitions among their constituents based on divisiveness, and mistrust, the intolerable situation will continue to fester to the detriment of both sides. Realizing there are Arabs and Palestinians that will never accept the Right of Israel to exist. Just as there are Israelis that believe most, if not all of the occupied land, including the Golan Heights, and the Sini, are theirs by edict of God.
            This the Arab will never accept as correlative, as they too make their own holy, and historical claims to the land. But if we the U.S. hold to the maxim that might makes right.. That Israel took the land fair and square in a fight, and so are entitled to keep it, and do with the inhabits there as they choose, we solve nothing of the matter. Only invite more bloodshed, the next battle, the next act of terrorism, and the next after that. Surely you see this, even through your deep bias on the side of Israel?

          16. A_Real_Einstein January 2, 2017

            What I see are Palestinians that have been offered a two state solution and have refused that solution every time. What I see has been a tolerant Israel that has run out of patience with the terrorist leadership that exists in Gaza. When the Palestinians decide that they want a two state solution then we will have one. Until then it really does not matter what the Israelis do.

          17. charleo1 January 2, 2017

            Believe your common sense, or discard it along with your concerns of peace. But as two Parties seek common ground to settle a long standing dispute, behavior always matters. Have you not learned anything in life? We as people could not get along under those terms. No further than our first small disagreement.

          18. A_Real_Einstein January 1, 2017

            You are filled with hate and your beliefs are dangerous. Your antisemitism is astonishing. Your anti American sentiment is concerning. You appear to either be or in the process of becoming radicalized. I hope Homeland Security is keeping an eye on you.

          19. charleo1 January 1, 2017

            If you have a rebuttal to something I said that wasn’t true…say it.
            Otherwise, your ignorant personal opinions of me are as unbalanced as your other comments. And if you’re so concerned about my “radicalism.” as you say. I suggest you call your local FBI office, and show them both sides of this conversation. I’ll put my Americanism, my record, along with my love, and support of my Country up against anyone’s.

          20. A_Real_Einstein December 30, 2016

            You are speaking in circles. You claim that half of the Palestinians more than 20 years ago agreed to recognize Israel’s right to exist which led to the Oslo Peace accords which proved my point that Israel is interested in peace as long as it has some assurances that they will not be attacked. Today, the PA does not agree with Israel’s right to exist as a JEWISH state with their insistence of any agreement including the Palestinians right to return which would allow up to 5 million Palestinians to become citizens of Israel and in essence turn Israel into an Arab state leading to a two state solution that would emerge as two Arab states. The other half is hell bent on killing all Jews on the earth. What do you want Israel to negotiate? Its own unconditional surrender?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_right_of_return

          21. charleo1 December 30, 2016

            I’m not “claiming,” I showed you the documents. Look, it’s a good thing that your life’s calling is not diplomacy. Because you have absolutely zero capacity to see any side of a discussion but one.
            Yes, there are Arabs that want every Jew in World exterminated. As there are Jews that wouldn’t take a back seat in that respect to every Arab Muslim. And that unfortunate fact for you holds meaning only when pointed out for the Arab. For the Jew, it is denied, or ignored. The Arab hatred for the Jew is exaggerated, and extrapolated to represent the feelings of all. Leading you to pose such sarcastic nonsensical, and hyperbolic questions as, “What do you want Israel to negotiate, its own unconditional surrender?” Yes, but of course. I have the unholy temerity to see merit on both sides, so a Jew hater I must surely be.

        2. A_Real_Einstein December 29, 2016

          Since it was not the people of Japan that attacked us at Pearl Harbor then we should not have declared war on them in simply sat down with their leadership and settled our differences with an unconditional surrender by us. Yes children will be killed when they are used as human shields by people who successfully commit terrorism. Have you ever heard of an Israeli suicide bomber or terrorist?

          1. charleo1 December 29, 2016

            From a historical perspective, the Arab Muslim in Palestine didn’t commit the holocaust, the German Christian did. The Mid-Eastern Arab didn’t attack the Jew. Had no problem with the Jew. So why is it they ask, wasn’t land taken, and a Jewish State created within the German, or Polish territories of Europe? Instead of imposing it here, where we’ve lived peacefully with the Jews since the days before the Romans? The killing of innocent civilians, and children can never be justified so easily. The response of the Isrealis to the rockets, which did not threaten the existence of their State, could, and should have been proportional. As it’s intent was clearly to draw a disproportional response, in order to gain the sympathy of a wider Arab World. And new recruits for their suicide brigades. And, most telling is the Israeli hard liners were more than eager to oblige.
            One truth about the suicide bomber. Is a Country that receives more military aid than any other from the most powerful, technologically advance Country on Earth, don’t need suicide bombers to kill and terrorize their victims.

          2. A_Real_Einstein December 29, 2016

            What is a proportional response to cowards who embed themselves among their civilians and fire thousands of rockets at your cities? What is the proportionate response to an entity that builds tunnels into your country and send in suicide bombers to destroy your country and your people. Check your history. The Arabs have never lived peacefully with the Jews because they want to kill them, always have.

          3. charleo1 December 29, 2016

            One proportional response was the anti missile defense system, “Iron Dome,” President Obama had placed at the Israeli border that proved 90% effective in knocking down the rockets before they did any harm. But the fact of the matter is, when the Israelis and Palestinians fight, it is the Palestinian civilians that do the vast majority of the bleeding, and dying. Another response might have been to go to the UN and impose upon Russia at the Security Council to stop selling the missiles to Assad in Syria. Who was then shipping them to terrorists factions of Hezbollah in Lebanon that were secreting them into Gaza through those tunnels you mention.
            But it’s never black and white in theses struggles. And we shouldn’t insist they are. And, we should not deny, but acknowledge what is history. That there was no war in greater Palestine between the Arab, and the Jew before the UN mandate in 1948 that established the Jewish State. As the Arab, and the Jew had co-existed there in that very region mostly in peace, and cultural tolerance for millennium.

          4. A_Real_Einstein December 30, 2016

            Yes the Palestinians do pay the price when the elect terrorists to lead them who spew hatred and commit murder. They bring upon their own destruction much like Republican voters in this country.

          5. A_Real_Einstein December 30, 2016

            Yes I remember all the goodwill and how welcoming the Arabs were when the UN legally created the Jewish state in order to provide for a Jewish homeland for the millions of Jewish refugees who were thrown out of Europe (sarcasm). I am sorry, you can’t just rewrite your own history. The Arabs have hated the Jews since the beginning of time. The Israelis have always acted in self defense and still do. Israel is a democracy and capitalistic economy. They just want to be left alone and be able to pray to a god that they believe in. Their citizens deserve the right of freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Waking up everyday with the threat of terrorism or having to run to a bomb shelter several times a day is not happiness or freedom. What do you want them to do other than to agree to their own annihilation?

          6. charleo1 December 30, 2016

            Do not even try that hypocrisy. That if you were an Arab living in so called Palestine, a British Protectorate. And the news came down one day the UN had just decided they were going to create a Jewish State where you work, live, worship etc. You would be happy about the whole transpiration of events? Or would you be angry? Since no one ask you, or gave you any say in the matter. But now it’s all about the sacred Jewish State. The big Jewish Apartheid, and its pretend faux “democracy.” And lately it’s been more and more about haters, and war mongers like Netanyahu trying to start a war, and have our military, our kids, and our money sacrificed to fight it for him. And if some of us Americans disagree, we’re compared to Nazis.
            My question is this: If we wind up in another huge major war in the Mid East, this time at the behest of Israel. Which it looks as though me might. What do we get out of it? Who rebuilds? Provides security? Takes care of the refugees? Reestablishes order, and maintains it? And then, who are we going to borrow money from this time, to pay for the whole thing?

  3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth December 28, 2016

    Bibi is painting himself deeper into a corner from which there can be no escape. His obsession with keeping Israel in a pariah-state status in the eyes of his neighbors doesn’t do the Jewish and Arab citizens any good, and he’s just playing with their lives and with fire just to see how long he can keeping throwing matches before burning down the entire region. And Fire Marshall Trump stands by with a can of gasoline when needed and a blow torch of a mouth to ignite the contents while holding the can. (“Fire Marshall Bill” would have been proud of Donald, and Bibi as well).

    It’s time to let go of your ego, Bibi.

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  4. latebloomingrandma December 28, 2016

    I listened to Kerry’s entire 70 minute speech. It was quite detailed as to what’s going on and what the barriers are to peace. I said to my husband–I wonder if Trump has the attention span to listen to this, and if he would understand anything that is said. The master of tweets stated Kerry’s speech was “disappointing.” Wow. that was profound. He thinks the art of diplomacy is just like the so-called art of the deal. “Deals” involve money. This involves people. You would think that after the centuries of oppression that the Jewish people have endured, that they would have a little more compassion for the Palestinians.

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    1. charleo1 December 29, 2016

      Trump has no use for diplomacy, or the hope diplomacy provides to a war weary World, with its possibilities for peace, and prosperity. For peace, and prosperity produce stability. And that does not suit his agenda, or the agendas of those haters, and war makers with whom he chooses to associate, and do their bidding. Peace provides no scapegoats he knows full well he will need, when all his grand promises, and lies fall to dust. Damn the fools who handed this miscreant the power to carry out his evil deeds in my name!

  5. 1standlastword December 28, 2016

    How can Obama expect Israel to take him seriously when he has followed the course of action of every administration before him by rewarding Israeli aggression supporting Israel with more WMD that any POTUS before him.

    For Obama, it’s like giving Goliath a bigger club (we know how that fable ended)

    But now it’s the 11th hour and Obama wants to shift course…I’m not impressed

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-22/obama-wants-to-stop-subsidizing-israel-s-defense-industry

    Definitely a lack of congruence here when leaders of nations talk peace and posture a closed fist to their interlocutor: How does that convey peaceful intentions???

    If the Palestine had a client state supplying them WMD the perennial (2) state dilemma and the matter of settlements wouldn’t of concern.

    I expect Trump to double down on all the mistakes of past U.S. administrations…indulge the aggressors (wash and repeat)

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