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The real death panels are coming.

Back in 2009, during the shrill hours of debate over the Affordable Care Act, Sarah Palin warned us solemnly that defenseless Americans “will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panels’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care.”

Many a snooty elitist dismissed those ominous Facebook pronouncements by the former Alaska governor and Republican vice-presidential nominee, but she was hardly alone in uttering such predictions. Palin and many others on the right claimed that President Obama’s struggle to expand health coverage — considered a human right in most of the modern world — was really a nefarious plot to save money by rationing care. All too soon, some tribunal in Washington, D.C. was bound to condemn Grandma to a cruel and untimely doom to save a few bucks.

Eight years later, we know that while Obamacare needs improvement, we have achieved the highest health insurance enrollment in our history –and there is nothing in sight that resembles a death panel.

Not yet, anyway. But severe rationing of medical care, leading to premature illness and many more deaths, is the most likely effect of the Republican “repeal and replace” bill, known officially as the American Health Care Act, that the House passed last week. Although Republican Congressional leaders pushed Trumpcare through without a “score” from the Congressional Budget Office, the CBO analysis of the bill’s previous version showed what its likely effects will be.

The bill is projected to cut almost a trillion dollars in medical spending over the coming decade, by capping and “block-granting” Medicaid — the literal lifeline for tens of millions of poor, disabled, and elderly citizens. Nearly half of all children with special needs receive care under Medicaid, as do almost two-thirds of nursing home residents. And those numbers represent only a fraction of those whose health is improved or whose lives are saved by this essential program.

The House Republican health care bill's massive cuts to Medicaid, which are often skimmed over in the last-minute drama over pre-existing conditions, are fast emerging as a critical source of opposition in the Senate. President Donald Trump said in his speech announcing his 2016 campaign that he would not cut Medicaid, but he did not keep that promise. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the bill's Medical cuts will be 839 billion dollars over 10 years. The cuts are important to financing tax cuts for medical industries and rich people.

Under their scheme, advertised as measures to improve “efficiency,” House Speaker Paul Ryan and President Trump will effectively force governors and legislators across the country to ration health care in their states.

Elected officials will have no choice but to make political decisions to deny vital care in hospitals and nursing homes to those who have no other coverage. They will have to come up with rules and regulations that reduce costs by denying medicine, operations, procedures, hospital stays, nursing visits, tests, and other vital services to those who need them. And another 14 million potential beneficiaries, whose needs are just as pressing, would be denied Medicaid coverage completely.

In short, state officials will have to inflict illness and death on people whose only crime is having no money — or as Palin put it, those who fail the Republican test of “their level of productivity in society.” Those politicians and their appointees who implement the new Medicaid rules will become the death panels.

Which is presumably why so many governors, including Republicans like John Kasich, are asking the Senate to reject the House bill. They don’t want innocent blood on their hands.

According to the original death panels myth popularized by Palin, Obama’s purpose was utopian, which is another way of saying dangerous. In order to reach his goal of universal coverage at an affordable cost — which every other advanced industrial nation on earth somehow achieved long ago — he would have to select some unfortunate citizens for routine elimination. The well-meaning ends would justify the evil means, and so on.

That was all nonsense, as we now know. The purpose of Obamacare was to expand health coverage to all Americans, or as many as possible. But the aim of the real death panels that would ensue from the American Health Care Act is far from utopian (unless like Ryan you are an acolyte of Ayn Rand). It is merely to provide a tax cut of historic proportions for the wealthiest people who have ever existed on this planet.

If this bill becomes law, thousands of Medicaid beneficiaries may well die prematurely. Many of them voted for Trump, believing his campaign promises about providing better care for all. They shouldn’t pay with their lives for that mistake.

Joe Conason

A highly experienced journalist, author and editor, Joe Conason is the editor-in-chief of The National Memo, founded in July 2011. He was formerly the executive editor of the New York Observer, where he wrote a popular political column for many years. His columns are distributed by Creators Syndicate and his reporting and writing have appeared in many publications around the world, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Nation, and Harpers.

Since November 2006, he has served as editor of The Investigative Fund, a nonprofit journalism center, where he has assigned and edited dozens of award-winning articles and broadcasts. He is also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, The Hunting of the President (St. Martins Press, 2000) and Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (St. Martins Press, 2003).

Currently he is working on a new book about former President Bill Clinton's life and work since leaving the White House in 2001. He is a frequent guest on radio and television, including MSNBC's Morning Joe, and lives in New York City with his wife and two children.

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  1. secondclassguy May 9, 2017

    “Sarah Palin warned us solemnly that defenseless Americans “will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panels’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care.”

    If she didn’t somehow serve a half term in a state with a population of 3 people, and get picked out of some weird desperation by McCain, she’d be a trash talking mud wrestler

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    2. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

      Palin is not exactly the icon of womanhood. For one thing, she has an alcoholism problem. When she is photographed while “under the influence,” you notice how unfocused her eyes are and her words slur.

      Her state gets $1.87 for every $1 they pay in federal taxes. This doesn’t count the $1200 tax subsidy every man, woman and child get just for living in what used to be a “frontier” state. Now, that $1200 is called “an oil subsidiy” from the government.

      Why not call it what it REALLY is? A freeloader tax?

      1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

        she has nice legs an a good ass

    3. idamag May 9, 2017

      You gave me a laugh, even though people, like her, are just not funny.

  2. Dominick Vila May 9, 2017

    A part of the GOP Bill that has not been properly explained involves the massive MEDICAID cuts, and its impact on the elderly. Millions of senior citizens depend on MEDICAID to cover expenses not covered by MEDICARE, and for financial assistance to get basic necessities. The cruelty of the Godless gang that ignores the most vulnerable members of our society to offset the budget impact caused by huge tax cuts to the wealthy is nothing short of a Satanic act.

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth May 9, 2017

      Each day serves up a reminder of an ongoing process of decomposition of the humanity of most who call themselves GOP partisans, and I continue to struggle to understand what motivates them to act as they do. It’s as though some mass hypnosis compels them to do the wrong thing and make the wrong heartless decisions.

      1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

        they call it the it is your problem not mine why should i be forced to pay for something i personally am not responsible for and i agree completely

      2. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

        money talks bullshit walks

    2. Carl Sdano May 9, 2017

      How dare you make a moral judgement on the vast majority of the GOP (“Satanic act”). We all know that politicians are well intentioned & God-fearing individuals, who have the best interests of their constituents at heart & not beholdened to their financial backers.

      1. Dapper Dan May 9, 2017

        Please tell me that was sarcasm ?

        1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

          i am not sure i think the fruit cake means it the only thing on their mind is how do i get in her pants and how much free booze am i going to get at this party in all actuality they simply do not care inless they are in front of a camera on election day

        2. Carl Sdano May 9, 2017

          Indeed, it was sarcasm. Dominick Vila is spot on all the time. There’s a thread in politics today that says that we shouldn’t make moral judgments about politicians who make moral judgments. That’s absurd.

      2. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

        politicians are only interested in what is good for them self and what gives them more power and how to get in the pants of that hot girl they simply do not care about anything else

      3. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

        the only thing they care about is them self and how to get elected to the next highest office more personal power nothing else except how to get in the pants of that college girl

  3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth May 9, 2017

    Sarah Palin was dismissed as just another American stricken by the disease of “Conservatism”, a disease which causes the victim to imagine the most ludicrous and lurid ideas. Her notion of a so-called “panel” to decide “who will live, and who will die” was seen as a continuation of an on-going delusional affliction. But it turns out she had some prescience, but it wasn’t due to any rational and creative spark of insight—just the ramblings of an hysterical woman.

    Now it seems this mysterious contagion is assuming a real flesh-and-blood identity, and the hosts are the GOP leadership, and the rank and file among the electorate who keep voting them into office. But all that should change, assuming that these voters will wake up and turn on their brains and will see the light of day once they have a medical emergency requiring hospitalization. Then they’ll wish they had never gone into fits of foaming at the mouth when the ACA was rolled out, because “TrumpCare”(aka “DeathCare”) may be coming with a panel of real specters cloaked in black with “GOP” stamped on their foreheads, to decide which persons are to die.

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    1. idamag May 9, 2017

      She was typical of today’s republicans. She probably knew there would be no death panels, but she was compelled to lie. Another trait of today’s republicans, not so smart.

      1. alfred e newman May 21, 2017

        money makes the world go round doctors selling false hope make the money and keep the people lined up day after day forking over mass amounts of money even though there is really no actual hope but as long as they make money they simply do not care

        1. idamag May 21, 2017

          No, you are a cynical person. I have had every member of my family die with cancer and not once did the doctors offer false hope. They are brutally honest about it. I have had my life saved twice by doctors. I know others who have been saved by doctors. In my community the doctors were speaking in favor of expanded Medicaid. Perhaps you should become a Christian Scientist and be cured by the spirit as you have such a low opinion of doctors, you should avoid seeing them.

          1. alfred e newman May 21, 2017

            simply never needed a doctor in 77 years simply never wanted anything to do with communist christian neo nazi crap you simply do not realize just how wrong you actually are just to buy their mistresses a nice car they remove perfectly healthy organs for a pill that cost 2 penny to make they charge 1.000.00 a pill they are just as greedy and corrupt as congressman who use taxpayer money to pay for their mistresses abortion to avoid scandal or priest who lie cheat and steal to maintain the lie and keep the power just remember thou shall not worship false idols before me jesus is a false idol

    2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

      you are completely insane

  4. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

    obamba’s Science Czar, Holdren, wrote/contributed to a book on the necessity of population control. Was this a component of obambacare?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/21/obamas-science-czar-considered-forced-abortions-sterilization-population-growth.html

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

      You are a component of Nazi mentalities. Grow up. You don’t deny the sick the right to healthcare access.

      When HMOs ONLY want to insure people who DO NOT need healthcare insurance and are under the age of 45, what the hell do you call that if not extortion?

      So you get the 20 somethings to pay for healthcare insurance they may not use until they reach age 45 and they pay hundreds of thousands in 2 decades for something they won’t use? Pure profit for HMOs who keep billions from this age pool. Then, the minute they turn 45, up goes the cost of their healthcare premiums, copays and deductibles.

      What other industry or business gets to collect 20 years of total profit for doing nothing?

      You guys really are as slick as babies’ bottoms when it comes to extortion aren’t you?

      1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

        Actually Elanore . . . . you defined obambacare, exactly, to the ‘nth degree.

        Did obamba bring Holdren aboard to set up Death Panels?

        We still have to see what the Senate and the bills return to the House does to the Health Care Insurance . . . . but, one thing is certain, the more competition the better chances of affordable health care for everyone.

        That includes those who can’t or won’t afford health insurance, with the creation of high risk pools in every state, controlled by the folks who vote for their representatives in each and every state; i.e., local control always works better than federal control – – even Liberals would agree with that.

        The Feds primary role is defense of the USA, not healthcare.

        The tax cut is to get our economy growing, create jobs and make sure the middle and below keep their money to spend buying refrigerators and other items that create jobs.

        I’m always surprised at the lack of Common Sense of those on the Left 🙂

        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

          Actually, Obamacare unlike TrumpCare didn’t push 22 million Americans off the HMO rolls.

          The Senate will NOT vote for this horrendous savaging of older Americans, infants and others born with pre existing condition. Who gives a fatfartfuk how much profit billionaire HMO CEOs lose?

          The Feds primary role is what it states in the Bill of Rights moron. Read it. No where in the U.S. Constitution does it say we taxpayers have to pay one dime to any business.

          If you can’t make your business successful without always being on the dole to taxpayers, get the hell out of business.

          I am always surprised at how you slicky slickies love to pretend that it is okay for House Republicans to call Trumpcare healthcare reform when it is really Campaign donations to the GOP. Try again moron.

          1. idamag May 9, 2017

            Republican = money first.
            Democracy = people first.
            The proof is there. FDR worked hard to get us out of the mess Wall Street created. He created jobs for infrastucture. He gave subsidies to farmers to keep small farms from going under. He started the soil conservation program to save farms from being blown away. He initiated the Social Security program to keep the elderly from literally starving to death. Massive programs for the people who were paying his wages. From Ted Kennedy, we got Medicare. From Obama we got healthcare reform. It wasn’t perfect but it was a start.
            From the Republicans, no regulations and big tax cuts for the wealthy.

          2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            democrats equal communist party

          3. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            f d r created a totally dependent simply can not think for it self simply can not dress it self or even wipe its own ass nation set us on the road to a totally communist country social security and social security disability everybody either working for the government or sitting on their asses collecting taxpayer money for some fake disability having baby after baby for a bigger welfare check stalin would be proud of f d r

          4. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            Ballotpedia? really? As for FactCheck, I’d say you don’t know how to read. Most of all, you obviously missed all those hick town hall meeting where your Johnny Came Marching Home Hurrah Hurrah were met with hundreds of very angry constitutents.

            Give it up moron. How is cutting pre existing conditions from healthcare insurance that would cover an infant born with a birth defect not POST BIRTH Abortion? What are those parents supposed to do assfrig? Let the infant die?

            As for the increases in the cost of Trumpcare, every economic expert in the country has stated that it will increase the cost for the oldest Americans by 500%

            Wouldn’t it be easier for you assfukkers to admit you are hot to resurrect Hitler’s death squads?

            I hope you get cancer and get dropped from your healthcare insurance. And with the CONman lifestyles you boys all lead, prostate cancer is a pre-existing condition caused by decades of pulling your chokes.

          5. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            That 500% increase will raise healthcare costs for many “old folks” with families from the current (approximate) $1,000 a month to (with your WAG) around $5,000 a month ($60,000 a year) which doesn’t compute for anyone.

            Anyone with Common Sense will go to the Competitive Marketplace and buy coverage from $50 to $500 a month.

          6. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            As usual, I prove you wrong. I think the experts of the AARP, AMA, and AHA, the 3 most powerful advocates for affordable healthcare in the US know better than YOU what the costs will be.

            You can lie all you like. We expect that from liars who make their big time profits from the sick and dying.

            But what you will NEVER do is make those lies your facts. When Fortune Magazine published this report, men like you can lie all you like.

            http://fortune.com/2017/03/08/gop-healthcare-plan-aarp-ama-aha/

          7. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            The only proof will come over the next 2 or 3 years as Competition forces the cost of healthcare and health insurance back to “livable levels”.

            Hang around and see what happens 🙂

          8. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            the only way that will ever happen is if we cut off taxpayer money entirely ounce we stop letting doctors insurance companies and big drug companies from sucking the taxpayer dry and let free enterprise take over the prices will drop dramatically when they can only charge the patient and not the entire country for what ever the price will drop or they will end up out of business even the super rich simply will not pay that kind of money

          9. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            communist party health care is the lie

          10. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            any one with common sense simply would not pay in the first place

          11. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            Well sure…so when you drive over a bridge and it falls down into a river from lack of repair, you can blame someone else right dickhead?

            When your home is damaged by a tornado, you’ll just live in the shell of its remains right dickhead?

            When your kids can’t get an education because WE refuse to support you on your welfare and Walmartian income, bitch then.

          12. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            you really are an insane communist are you not my children simply do not want the same free lunch you communist party people want they know you simply do not get anything for free but would rather be independent not dependent like you communist party people who simply can not do or think for your self they are responsible adults not communist cry babies

          13. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            Spot On!

            That’s the beauty of the Competitive Marketplace . . . everyone has the option to purchase insurance or opt out, without an obambacare fine.

          14. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            the 1st amendment freedom of choice the 1 of many things we the people seem to give up just a little to ez

          15. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            why do you not pay for them out of your own pocket with no help from the taxpayer then they simply were not meant to live and nature will take its course no matter what why torture them for a prolonged period just so someone can make money selling false hope the only reason to make money they know there really is no hope but they also know they can make a lot of money prolonging suffering

          16. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            worse off than with it

          17. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            no where in the bill of rights does it say i have absolutely no choice but ti support people i personally am not responsible for armed robbery taxation with out representation not charity violates 1st amendment freedom of choice because there simply is no choice

          18. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            no where in the bill of rights does it say i have no choice but to pay for people i am not personally responsible for either

        2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

          abolish communist party health care all together get the doctors hand out of the tax payer pocket all together

          1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

            Actually there are hundreds(?) of available plans already working with many health insurance payers.

            It’s called “subscription based direct primary care” (or some variation) and is operating in many cities across the USA, but their subscribers also have to pay the obambacare penalty tax until a stake is driven through its heart.

            https://atlas.md/wichita/faq/

            Essentially, a “subscriber” pays around $50 a month which covers all health services delivered in the physician’s office and includes much lower drug costs as their subscriber base gets the attention of drug manufacturers by the quantity ordered.

            A “subscriber” then has the option to buy insurance to cover hospitalization or procedures that can’t be done in the physician(s) office.

            When obambacare is dead this variation of health services will impact the insurers and they will “automagically” lower their rates via COMPETITION which obambacare dealt the death blow.

            Many health insurance rates have quadrupled under obambacare, for those folks who don’t qualify for the subsidies.

          2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            just like mafia your money or your life but you hypochondriacs and fake disability people need tax payer money because you simply to dam lazy to work for a living you willingly gave up your civil rights but you simply do not want anybody else to have their civil rights either because with freedom of choice they simply may not want to support you poor poor pity full you

          3. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

            How you can divine your comment from what I wrote and referenced is ABSOLUTE PROOF of the insanity of those on the Left. Is it due to the drugs you are on?

            Most, if not all of the “subscribers” are working people who make a conscious decision to limit their healthcare costs and pay the obambacare fine, rather than just set and bitch about it 🙂

          4. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            if they simply would not pay the fine either if they really wanted to do something about it the prisons are so over crowded they simply would not have any place to put them and the courts are so over burden they simply would never come to trial any way

          5. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            Debtor Prisons were left behind when we came to the “new world”.

            They were replaced with the IRS who can take control of every single asset you have until they deem it “okey-dokey” to let you have them back.

          6. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            they renamed it but it still exist they call it tax evasion

          7. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            they simply should not pay the fine either if they really do want to do something about it

          8. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            Spot On!

            I agree in not paying the fine, but, the awful truth is the IRS will take control of your bank account and other assets if you refuse to pay the fine.

            Also, obambacare will “automagically take” the fine from any tax refund you may have, and leave you with what’s left.

          9. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            pull an al capone on them

          10. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            violates the first amendment freedom of choice obama should be in prison and it should be repealed on those grounds alone

          11. alfred e newman May 21, 2017

            you have to realize they in the medical profession are simply in it for the money they simply do not care if you live or die as long as they get paid they really do not want to cure you if they did that they simply would not make any money on you they simply want you to line up everyday and fork over large amounts of money on false hope this way they make money and keep control at the same time

        3. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

          if we take the doctors hand out of the taxpayer pocket entirely simply cut off all federal funding period the price will drop dramatically

      2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

        mafia your money or your life

        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

          Trump, your money or I steal it by grifting.

          1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            just like everybody else on the planet buyer beware many doctors bill pad give out drugs like candy do operations that are not needed just because they simply need the money to buy a new car

          2. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            communist party health care not trump

      3. idamag May 9, 2017

        Health care is something that does not belong in the for-profit realm. When I had a stockbroker, he told me to invest in healthcare, it was a sure thing and paid large dividends. Ond CEO of Blue Cross got a 22 billion dollar bonus before the ACA made it law that insurance companies had to put 80% of premiums, received back into healthcare. We are heading back there and the functionally illiterate is putting us there.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

          Remember why Obama promoted those banking laws in 2009 first thing? It was that same idea of allowing banks to spend up to 80% of depositors money on investments.

          The first crack in that little for profit game came when Prudential was the first to invest in foreign exchange stocks that went belly up. With only 20% on hand in businesses and banks, they couldn’t meet financial obligations to provide what that money was for: services and products or life savings for retirement or education.

          That type of gaming caused the Sept. 2008 Financial Meltdown which then had the top US banks begging bailouts from taxpayers. Bush ’43 passed TARP (Troubled Assets Relief Program) in December 2008. But it didn’t begin to relieve the global financial mess US banks were directly responsible for. Iceland, Ireland and Greece all saw their financial stability flush down the toilet. This is the perfect example of the greedy men in this country who don’t really care “who else” suffers the consequence of their greed.

          We saw that when Madoff got away with living off billions for 17 years that belonged to his own clients for their retirements. We saw it before that with Kenny Boy Lay and Jeff Skilling who faked the value of Enron stock and then loaded their own employees 401Ks with company stock. Meanwhile, Skilling and Kenny Boy lived high on the hog as greedy men always do.

          Now Trump and his Republican thugs want to deregulate the very regulations that protect American taxpayers from banks needing those bailouts.

          This is a tribute to Trump’s legacy as a world class grifter accustomed to taking money that doesn’t belong to him, using it to enrich himself and his grifter family and then when the bills come due, dump it on anyone stupid enough to fall for his poverty routine.

          1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            sound like the history of the world over and over again people are stupid sheep just waiting to get sheared

        2. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

          the fact that the taxpayer simply can not afford it is simply putting us there

        3. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

          it is suppose to be a humanitarian profession

      4. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

        sounds like what ssa has been doing ever since it was invented only 1 in 8 actually lived long enough to collect and died shortly after they started to collect

      5. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

        they simply were not going to live forever

    2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

      look at china

      1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

        Spot On . . . seems to be working quite well for China . . . this model may have been the basis for obambacare? 🙂

        1. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

          in china the government controls the doctors the doctors do not control the government like they do here

          1. RichFromShowMe May 11, 2017

            I agree, but many Chinese doctors supplement their incomes by extracting body parts for often unwilling subjects like prisoners and other folks who have fallen on bad luck.

            The nearest in the USA was Doc Gosnell and Planned Parenthood. Gosnell is in prison for his butchery and Planned Parenthood is waiting for its 500+ million dollar annual cash infusion for limiting our population . . . which may not show up now that we have a President.

          2. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            so basically violating roe vs wade as well as doctor patient confidentiality and the privacy act he should get an a c l u lawyer and take it to the top and he will wen and beside that congress the senate basically all elected officials pay for most abortions out of their own pocket to avoid scandal after cheating on wle or husband any way so there really is no way to stop it any way like i keep saying you simply can not legislate morality and this is a medical issue not a political 1 please stop wasting taxpayer money on a non issue you simply are not a doctor and simply do not know what you are talking about or the reason why either and unless you personally are getting an abortion it simply is none of tour business

          3. RichFromShowMe May 11, 2017

            I don’t really understand your comment, but comment taken, anyway It is a medical issue but unfortunately us taxpayers pick up the bill, anyway 🙂

            As you pointed out I am not a medical doctor and neither are you so that puts us back in the realm of conjecture.

          4. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            no it puts it at the point where it simply none of your business you simply do not have any right of any kind to decide and you simply do not have the right to shove your morality down anybody else throat you simply have to learn how to mind your own business or you can take full financial responsibility and personally pay for all of them out of your own personal pocket with no help from the taxpayer other wise it simply is none of your business and you should stay out of it like i said the president simply is not the pope and the government simply is not a religious institution

          5. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            As I referenced, Conjecture is an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

            We both have incomplete information on the subject of health care and health insurance and the only proof will come over the next few years as healthcare costs and health insurance cost declines.

            By the way, extremely long run-on sentences, such as yours, are an early warning of mental health problems, if not already there 🙂

          6. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            i simply have to stay on the education level as well as the mentality level of the website or people like you who simply can not think for your self or dress your self or feed your self or even wipe your own ass because you are so totally dependent on others who you force to support your worthless ass who simply should not have to do so poor poor pity ful you

          7. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            Another run-on sentence . . . . is your hair on fire, YET ?

            Newman had many valid and innocuous interpretations of American life as he was a caricature of what society really wanted to be, rather than the reality society faced in the 1960’s.

            The current dementia of the Left seems to be focused on non-reality which is exactly the opposite of Mad magazine, but, at least you guys are MAD so A.E. Newman must be a descriptive moniker? 🙂

          8. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            you people are completely out if touch with reality we the people simply van not afford you any more so take your hand out of our wallet and put it in your own you bunch of bums learn to take care of your self instead of laying there and going wa wa wa and demanding more more you simply are not worth 1% of what you are getting now

          9. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            Another run-on harangue which seems to add credence to mental illness?

            As for me, I work, pay taxes, volunteer in the community and am a Veteran . . . . I assume from your harangues, you are one of those who live off of the “Freebies” of government . . . or am I incorrect?

          10. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            as usual dead wrong personally i do not think you ever worked a day in your life with the way you defend these free loaders so you have to be a free loader your self either that or some loud mouth kid living in your parents basement you are the 1 who is insane not i

          11. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            In the interest of preserving what little sanity you may have I’m going to have to stop communicating with you . . . as, the more you write, the more foolish your responses.

            If you count part time jobs while in College and University and military service I’ve been working and paying taxes for 55+ years. How does that compare to your work experience?

            Have a nice life 🙂

          12. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            you mean to tell me you were on welfare and living in your parents basement for that long never had a job never served your country never paid taxes well as retarded as you sound i can believe it way to many liars like you on the computer nice to see some truth for a change now get mommy to change your diaper give you a fresh bottle and read you another fairy tale about what you might have done if you were not so lazy

          13. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            Another once sentence “Polluted Stream of Unconsciousness”. Your comprehension level must be on the same level as ambergris, but, with zero value.

            Have you checked yourself in, or did you just escape from your local mental hospital – or have you run out of psychedelic drugs?

            The one thing I like about this blog is the nonsensical and vapid responses, nearly all without any sense of factual basis.

            A blog populated with Lefties, SnowFlakes and other denizens of the deep 🙂

            I will have to admit there are some folks on this blog that make sense, but surely this is a minor percentage?

          14. alfred e newman May 13, 2017

            stalin would be so proud of you and the fact that you simply do not want your constitutional rights this is the point you people are bent twisted and insane so totally dependent with absolutely no desire to think for your self absolutely no free will of any kind you only want a total dictatorship with you personally as the dictator but you simply can not even run your own life and absolutely no body i know would let you run theirs the only person you are important to is yourself and no body else

          15. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            you simply are not 1 of them you belong in a nut house

          16. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            communist will be communist

          17. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            you are dead wrong but i simply do not believe you did any of that i actually think you have been on welfare living in your parents basement all your life but the internet is so full of liars like you it really does not matter

          18. RichFromShowMe May 15, 2017

            I would guess, from your past history, you have no way to identify with folks who hold down a job and pay taxes . . . as the saying goes, it’s “out of your wheelhouse”.

          19. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            i have been working and paying taxes longer than you have been on welfare and sucking me and everybody else dyr you leach

          20. RichFromShowMe May 15, 2017

            Well, now we know . . . I’ve never drawn welfare nor any other government “freebie”, sooooooooooooooooo, does this mean you have never held down a job or paid taxes . . . using your logic that would be the correct assumption 🙂

            A.E. Newman, on occasion you have flashes of brilliance 🙂

          21. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            now you know y ou are a liar you never worked a minute of a day in your whole worthless life and your mommy still changes your diapers and desses you funny

          22. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            you are a communist dupe

          23. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            no i just have to stay on educational and mentality level of this web site seeing how absolutely none of you are able to or allowed to think for your self because your religion strictly forbids thinking for your self or dressing your self or feeding your self or even wiping your own ass simply can not blame you look what happen to adam and eve no wonder you simply want to stay illiterate

  5. FT66 May 9, 2017

    AHCA is a brutal bill no one has ever seen. No Donald, you can’t throw grandma over the cliff. It is an insane thing to do.

    Reply
  6. Gerry Francis May 9, 2017

    …..and we don’t need any clean air or water either! Now……..let’s go provoke a war with the rest of the planet so we can create defense industry jobs.

    Reply
    1. idamag May 9, 2017

      Halliburton and subsidiaries got richer and the government got poorer.

    2. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

      we have been at war ever since we discovered this country with everybody from the native american to everybody else on the planet the only thing that ever changes is the weapons but with out war the army navt air force and marines would be out of a job

  7. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

    the GOP gang of pinheads

    (willing or unwilling what do thy know thy are just pinheads anyways ! ) play right into the addicted DONNY DUMP’s JUNKY FIX OF ATTENTION ok in regards of the DONNY DUMP CLOWN SHOW and his trump-DONT-care healthcare plan. in regards to this individual one has to understand he’s far of sound or sane thinking . he it wrapped so tight in his own pea brain to a point nothing matters to this clown. only but him self and what ever sick and crazy thoughts he has at any given time . news show say that the clown may misunderstood and or misinterprets things . this is a DUMPSTER card he uses all the time in his DIRTY CARD GAME of his life . as ive stated so many times (how easy THE DONNY DUMP CLOWN SHOW is to read . he says what he says all the time and means it the way he said it the first time he says things . that’s part of his clown show game . he might very well give people more then one way of taking what he says . its the people that are fooled by his sneaky ways . some too often to a point that others may even try to defend the clown . and that’s his game he means things one way and one way only (the worse way ). its just the one that try to look at his game things and find different ways of looking at them . and its those who then play right into the clowns game and he laughs & loves it that he’s fooled more fools . as for any thing that one might go as far as defending the clown giving him space as to maybe he had misunderstood and or misinterpreted its those ones that been hooked and being reeled in by the clown .the child minded tweeter clown (&AND BEING PRESIDENT MIND YOU ) takes to his kid game tweeter account like a fish to water . latest tweak from the clown about leaks . as for leaks any that he would have would be the leaks from his head letting out all that Co2 BAD GAS only good for plants (which he is & has the brain span of one . in hindsight this is all what he dose to seek his FIX because he is a addict &is addicted to attention that’s his cure and his FIX . good or bad attention dose not matter . he dose all he can to make his own attention always . as for the also amongst other clown habits he is a tweeter clown . as for his asking where the leaks come from . give me a break the junky is doing all the leaking himself . its his addiction seeking attention ///. he clown tweets to try to throw off the media and anyone and every one else . as for people in general I cant understand how thy cant read this so easy to read DONNY DUMP CLOWN SHOW . here’s something that might help . look at the DUMPSTER trying to get his junky fix of attention ( as he dose and will any way he can ) now go into his empty head with only his pea brain or pee for brains mind (yes yes it truly is a very scary thoughts and place to be or go too ) then you have to see him playing this whole thing (like his whole life ) as a big WWE show with his DONNY DUMP MAINNA parts . its all a big show and game for the clown . one at times can say he knows not what he says . this can be true for the DUMPSTER CLOWNS knows not much of anything sane . this whole thing was a seed planted by the clown from the start . him being the president of the USA is only a stepping stone always was and always will be . the DONNY DUMP CLOWN SHOW is his main goal and that’s to have the biggest DONNY DUMP CLOWN SHOW of all time . its all him playing it I call it for an UNREALIRT TV SHOW .at the end . and as he laugh now at all the fools and his brain dead DONNY DUMP follower . he laughs harder if and when he gets out of the white house . that’s where he starts his plan from the start .. he is and played not just the USA but the whole world . and know this with all the clown has and will do at the very end one might see the DUMPSTER CLOWN as the clown that started WW3 . that’s the attention fix that addicted junky would thrive on till his end (which cant come soon enough for the sake of the world

    Reply
    1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

      you are completely insane

      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

        well i beg to diffa I believe im more in touch and down to earth with understand just what is going on then again to each their own

        1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

          you are so far out there simply is no bringing you back

          1. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            hey ALF im so in-touch with things and down to earth . its you that is clueless and seek common sense to understand what’s going on here . or with that point any where . but never give up keep trying to understand can only help you

          2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            the 1 thing i really do understand is personal freedom the 1 thing you religious fanatics simply never did or ever will you actually have the right to practice any idiotic religion you want but you simply do not have the right to force your idiotic religion on other people the government simply is not a religious institution never was or ever will be the president simply is not the pope the senate simply is not the college of cardinals and congress simply are not priest in fact these people are the biggest sinners of all they drink booze gamble cheat on their wife just like anybody else your bible is by far the worst way to run a government the prince always killing the king to take the throne the people always in revolt you actually live by your own personal moral code but you simply can not legislate morality or force your own personal bent twisted moral code on others and beside every elected official in the u s a pay for more than 1/2 of all the abortions just to avoid scandal

          3. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            OK turncoat

          4. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            i am a true american a capitalist not a communist like you constantly making idiotic unconstitutional laws trying to force your idiotic religion down everybody else throat costing the poor tax payer money on non tax payer issues if it only cost you and you alone money i simply would not mind but you are wasting my money and that i do mind especially when you use my money on all kind of crap that only violates my constitutional rights like freedom of choice as to who i give my money to not who you want to steal it from me against my will so you can give my money you stole from me to them you simply do not have the right to do that

          5. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            OK bootlicker

          6. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            funny seems I said the same thing to you ALF you should take your brains and do that thy will follower you don’t worry you wont be ending it by your self take your personal freedom and what ever religious fanatics you may have and set your self free for ever don’t stay here and do that suffering you so much seem to hate talk all the pain and suffering aways and set your self free you deserve it end it you will be happy with all your brains and smarts to be with out any more pain and suffering go save your self from it all you need it thy will follower you theres are many brain dead that you need to lead thy need a smart leader like you to show them the way away from the pain and suffering thy call for you all mighty brain lead them to the good side free of pain and suffering thy beg you to lead

          7. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            you first

          8. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            interesting mr not so smart you talk around and around to the point you have no clue where you start or end .as for any book showing the way isn’t it in the PAPER WORKS of the country where faith and state are 2 different things and faith cant rule over state ? you read the book and while you’re at it read the paper work for the country . then lead your followers to the place with out pain and suffering

          9. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            you idiots keep going to congress and telling them you do this completely unconstitutional thing and make the u s a more communist or we simply will not vote for you so to keep their job they do this completely unconstitutional thing even though it is completely unenforceable totally unconstitutional to keep you the voter happy they do it

          10. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            and don’t you actually live by my own personal moral code as you seem to see it go on your own code hunt and find it the best place lead as many as will follow your brain and lead em away from pain and suffering for ever thy need you to lead this is your calling gooooooooooooo lead thy will follow

          11. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            no your moral code is completely insane

          12. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            PS as for abortion it seemed only to work half way for you . set your self free from the half of the abortion that didn’t work free your self from the pain and suffering you deserve it the most end it all save your self you will be happy you did LEAD BRAIN SMART you think you are LEADDDDDDDDDDDDD

          13. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            your life after death is suppose to be so much better than your life here why do you not end it and leave perfectly healthy people like me keep all the money we are being forced to waste on you

          14. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            i understand you people are insane communist who simply can not even think for your self or dress your self or feed your self absolutely no independence of any kind 2 year old mentality but it really is not your fault you are so retarded your parents beat it in to you from the day you were born and their parents beat it in to them since the day they were born and their parents beat it in to them stupidity and insanity is genetic and passed down through generations

  8. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

    you have to realize the only reason these people are still alive and suffering is so other people can make money on them if there simply was no money in it they would have let them die a long time ago

    Reply
    1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

      And infants born with congenital diseases? Should they be allowed to die too? How isn’t that post birth abortion?

      1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

        forcing pain and suffering on a child just so other people can make money on it you religious fanatics are so cruel there is absolutely nothing you can do to make it healthy so you simply prolong its suffering at other peoples expense that is the trouble with religious fanatics no mercy your insanity makes you think you know best makes you think you can force your morality on everybody makes you an idiot yours is simply not the only religion in the u s a and by doing what you are doing you are violating other peoples right to freedom of their own idiotic version of their own idiotic religion

        1. idamag May 9, 2017

          Der Fuhrer would have been so proud of a speech like that.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

            You know men like this are the ones who think Gimme Gimme Gimme. So preserving life to them is not as attractive as gas chambers for the purpose of extermination.

          2. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            you are so wrong

          3. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            i am not a nazi like you i am a naturalist simply live by the actual laws of nature if there is absolutely nothing you can actually do to save it why prolong the suffering the only reason is so people can make money selling false hope and snake oil but on the bright side the unemployment rate is down

          4. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            true ALF you got it and you are smart (you think so im sure ) so being that smart and being so right im sure you feel suffering isn’t something some one smart like you should deal and or live with . so im with you end your suffering that’s the smart thing for some one so smart as you should do is end it all you got the smarts to know it life isn’t worth living so do the only smart thing that can be done (and you also being the one with all that smarts ) end it all stop your suffering good idea . you lead the way your so smart im sure there will be so many that follower noowing that your smart so many would follower the smart one . end it all help so many save themselves from suffering and you know your smart and are the only true one that can lead . so ALF lead so all can followers the smart one

          5. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            personally i am in perfect health unlike you i have everything to live for your imaginary life after death is suppose to ne so much better than your life here you should end it and end it now

          6. ivory69690@yahoo.com May 9, 2017

            funny seems I said the same thing to you ALF you should take your brains and do that thy will follower you don’t worry you wont be ending it by your self

          7. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            no i will not be ending it at all i simply am not a stupid as you

        2. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

          You fool no one with your “Death Mentality.” First of all, if ever you have been a parent of an infant born with Spina Bifida, you would know their choice is life, not death.

          Death mentalities like yours come from the Hitler era where the cost of preserving life benefitted only Nazis.

          Sorry in the US we do not watch people die. You need to move out of the US to countries like Syria where people are gassed every day or Russia, where if you open your mouth and dissent you get poisoned or shot to death. But, no problem for you right?

          You would rather delight in watching others die so long as YOU don’t have to pay a dime toward the cost of human survival, right?

          1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            yes we do as soon as the money runs out and they simply can not afford to live any more why would i waste money to prolong the suffering of others

    2. idamag May 9, 2017

      I think hitler’s term for people who had needs, but could not fulfill them, was, useless mouths.”

      1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

        not a nazi simply could not be i am not a christian a prerequisite of being a nazi you know like you must be white and a devout catholic and hate anything or anybody different than you and you must think everybody else simply must bend to your insane bent twisted point of view no matter how wrong you are that you and you alone have constitutional rights and everybody else better do exactly as you say or else you are completely insane and like all insane people there simply is no reasoning with you

  9. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

    Look…it is long past time to call it like it is with Republicans. From the minute Reagan was shoved into the presidency, the Republicans have had a cute little game. There is a reason they can afford to spend billions to win elections: YOU are paying for them to win.

    Here’s how. Every time there is a new administration since Reagan, the Republicans have pushed for a tax cut for the rich and corporations. Bush ’41, Clinton, Bush ’43 and the Obama administrations all had tax cuts that mainly focused on putting money back in to the pockets of the richest Americans.

    However, the difference in 2009 was that the Republicans sensed Americans were on to their games of grifting tax dollars for tax cuts by cutting programs Americans WANT and NEED. So, the GOP decided, “Okay. No tax cut? No votes to extend unemployment for 8 million Americans we Republicans put out of work.”

    Holding Americans hostage is what the Republican Party does best. So now that the 2016 election was their most expensive in history, even with Trump’s bragged $100 million donation, they knew they needed a tax cut so their billionaires would finance their next 8 years of Republican campaigns.

    Is this coincidence that every time there is a new administration the first act of the GOP is a tax cut? When campaign coffers are at their lowest after a major election?

    Reply
    1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

      The tax cut is so working folks keep more money in their pocket so they can buy refrigerators, cars and other items which will create jobs and bring our economy off obamba-life-support . . . towards a 4% growth rate.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

        Obviously, you either can’t read and I know math isn’t your strong suit. Bloomberg News and Warren Buffet have both publicly stated that the tax cut will only enrich all who earn over $250,000 a year.

        As for growth rate, when 99% of the US population is paying ALL the taxes you and your Grifters of the 1% don’t, how much growth will there be?

        Want to explain how in the hell after 2 Bush ’43 tax cuts his 8th year ended in Financial Meltdown?

        1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

          Fully realizing you ignore FACTS and will never admit you and others on the Left are wrong, but still attempting to enlighten you, for instance. For a family filing jointly who has a total income of $40,000 a year (lower income folks) they will be able to immediately deduct around $25,000 putting them in the 10% range or fed taxes of around $1,500 which is slightly over $100 a month federal taxes.

          As for 99% of the population paying All the taxes, currently, and moving forward approximately, the top 1% of taxpayers pay around 38% of all taxes and the bottom 50% of taxpayers pay less than 3% of taxes.

          Those pesky FACTS . . . . once again 🙂

          https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2015-update/

          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 9, 2017

            Nice try but we both know that link is a right wing Heritage Foundation associate don’t we? Nothing like you trying to push your greed on the rest o fus who will pay through thenose for higher healthcare insurance, higher energy costs we neither need or want and you trying to plead your case so you don’t have to work YOUR ass off while we work 2 or more jobs to pay taxes YOU don’t.

          2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            free enterprise not taxes best way to go absolutely no government money wasted on communist party health care of any kind doctors will cut prices when they simply can not screw the tax payer any more

          3. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            ^ this guy is a white supremacist and a moron (redundant, obv)

          4. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            not even close you are an insane religious fanatic

          5. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            I’m not sure how you determined that I’m religious (I’m not), but at a rough guess it’s because you’re an illiterate moron.

          6. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            you sound like a christian islamic terrorist

          7. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            I’m sure that your ability to string nonsensical words together is the talk of your retirement village, traitor.

          8. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            simply can not afford to retire way to many leaches sucking up my personal earning and calling this highway robbery income tax it is really funny the harder i work the more they take almost makes me want to join the crowd give up my independence and my constitutional rights like you and become the perfect communist just like you

          9. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK, sorry (but, again, not surprised) to hear you’re a spectacular failure! Not the fault of anyone else, no matter what their skin color is. Also nobody is taking your right to be an un-American whiner away.

            I hope that helps!

          10. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            you are doing your best though are you not you communist dupe you are working very hard to destroy the constitution and all if stands for you should move to china or russia you would be happier there

          11. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK sorry you have to eat cat food because you fell for obvious scams.

          12. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            never fell for anything never eat cat food only forced to pay taxation without representation for all kind of unconstitutional evil communist non tax payer issues that only violate doctor patient confidentiality as well as the privacy act and have absolutely no bearing on running the country

          13. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK senile crazy guy.

          14. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            look whose talking

          15. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            I know that, as an illiterate, you are incapable of using punctuation, but it’s rare indeed to see someone so dim they mix up “who’s” and “whose”.

          16. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            i have to stay on the educational level of the web site or you idiots will never understand being a bunch of illiterate communist dupes who simply can not think for your self or dress your self or wipe your own ass i have to keep it simple stupid

          17. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 11, 2017

            The “educational level” of this website? I have multiple degrees, and I am the most beloved poster on here. You can’t spell, not because of other people, but because you’re a cretin. A buffoon. A moron. And don’t forget: a traitor.

          18. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            they kicked you out of kindergarten for refusing to shave you failed after noon nap you truly are the funniest that is for sure with your level of illiteracy are you absolutely sure you are not a religious fanatic because you sure sound like 1

          19. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 11, 2017

            Wow, that’s feeble.

          20. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            to bad it is true

          21. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 11, 2017

            Yes, here’s to bad!

          22. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            sounds like some body needs a diaper change and a fresh bottle if your mommy is busy you better run to your congressman or if he is busy your senator possibly your nayor like i said you simply can not even run your own life what insanity makes you think i would let you run mine

          23. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 11, 2017

            OK sorry that you’re an incoherent mess that doesn’t understand how they’re misusing words; it makes you sound like a total moron, of course, but since you are a total moron it’s only apt. In the meantime, if it makes you feel better, I have made millions of dollars off the collapse of the US economy brought about by Trump.

          24. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            liar liar pants on fire you are a 5 year old spoiled rotten brat with a over active imagination probably live in a cardboard box in an ally and use the computer at the public school

          25. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 11, 2017

            See previous post.

          26. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

            way to many liars like you no way to prove so simply dismiss people like you poor poor pity simply can not stop using l s d brain so fried absolutely no hope for you just like no hope for religious fanatics complete and total insanity you simply can not even run your own life so like i said get your diaper changed and a fresh bottle take a nap maybe even have your mommy or congressman or senator possibly even the mayor read you a fairy tale might help

          27. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 11, 2017

            See previous two posts.

          28. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            look in a mirror

          29. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 15, 2017

            Yes that reply makes sense, you are definitely not a moron.

          30. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            the only spectacular failure is you you completely and totally failed independent thought as well as sanity and common sense

          31. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK turncoat.

          32. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            you simply should not talk about your self that way after all you are successful spectacular failure and you should be proud of your self how many other people are as successful at being a failure as you are

          33. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 15, 2017

            “I know you are but what am I” does not work when you are a grown-up.

            I hope that helps!

          34. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            You sound like the son of one of those hick state Mammy and Pappy Yokum Walmartians who can’t earn decent wages because you live on welfare.

          35. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            you sound like a communist party leader in the making

          36. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2017

            I am not the one sucking up to Putin. You are Ruskie Troll. Come on now..admit it…you love the Russian Commies. What kind of American would EVER allow a slimeball like Trump to be president if you didn’t want him to be on the phone with Putin every other week?

            Perhaps you need to move to Russia now that Trump is going to be impeached for leaking high level intel information to Lavrov and your buddy boy Kisleyak.

            So tell us Ruskie ass kisser…how many Rubles does Putzy pay you?

          37. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            you are simply angry because you simply do not want your welfare check cut off and you simply do not want to work for a living and i simply do not want to support you you simply can not stand the fact you are a complete and total failure and it is all your own fault you simply can not stand the fact i am not afraid to tell you

          38. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2017

            Hey fukkmucker…Last year, I paid over $3500 in taxes for the business I own. You are the welfare trough feeder. Why else would you be a troll? Every day you post your BS lies.

            I have already owned 2 other business while you were pissing in your diapers.

            The only failure here is you moron. Stop accepting money from Putin. Or do you have to kiss Ruskie ass in order to buy a cup of coffee?

          39. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            liar liar pants on fire to pay that little your business is a failure just like you if you were so successful you would not want to support people like yourself or take offence at the truth but you simply do not want to lose your welfare check so you act like the spoiled rotten little brat you are when ever someone calls you a lazy leach

          40. Eleanore Whitaker May 16, 2017

            What part of I have a part-time business don’t you get? I am a 1099 freelance writer. That means I spend about 6 hours a day writing tech articles in SEO format. You don’t even know what SEO is or how to write more than the BS you post. Get some facts moronj.

            You are a Russian troll right dicklicker?

          41. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            actually i am born and raised in america security exchange commision and they are probably investigating you for fraud and the i r s is after you for tax evasion the only bs here is the bs you write you communist welfare cheat you

          42. Eleanore Whitaker May 17, 2017

            You are a liar. Hey SEC here I am! Alfred E Newman claims you investigating me for fraud. Come get me.

            You are an asshat. I pay more taxes than a welfare rat like you ever has your dipshit.

            My NJ property taxes are over $5900 this year. I also pay NJ sales and use taxes on what I buy of 7%. I pay federal income taxes as a 1099 and just overpaid which I do every year.

            So Mr. Spiteful, Do you and me a favor and stop posting your BS. You have no proof because there isn’t any need for it.

            But you can bet your lard ass in chief is going to have to cough up those tapes his big mouth announced.

          43. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            you never worked or paid taxes in your entire life liar liar pants on fire the only thing you ever did was sponge if the taxpayer or you would feel the same way me and every other taxpayer feels not defending leaches like yourself not spouting bullshit about things you simply do not have the sleight est idea about instead of a more communist country you would be fighting for a more independent one instead of wanting to destroy the constitution you would defend it with your dying breath but you simply do not want your constitutional rights trouble is you simply do not want anybody else to have theirs either

          44. Eleanore Whitaker May 17, 2017

            You of course are soooo right. I have had 3 life careers, owned 2 business…but NJ let me get away with running a business without paying any taxes, right assface?

            Then, when I worked in private industry for the woman/employer who was also the umbudswoman to the SBA, the federal government allowed her to call me tax free like you right welfare trough feeder?

            Now that I work in semi retirement as a 1099, I sure love not paying ANY taxes.

            You are such an ASS that you can’t find the hole in your head to wipe with the charmin. Insanity run in your family moron? Did you alky Daddy beat hell out of your slut Mommy while she was pregnant with you? Figures.

            Tell us. How much HAVE YOU paid in federal, state and sales and use taxes you common low life bum? I’ll keep asking this question to hold your ass to the flames.

          45. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            for a person who never worked a day in your life you sure have an over active imagination and absolutely no idea of what you are talking about but then again insane people like you live in their own little world complete and totally out of touch with reality

          46. Eleanore Whitaker May 18, 2017

            I am going to embarass your ass big time now. First of all, you can’t tell a payable from a receivable without counting on your toes. Second, you have no idea how to write a sentence much less a 278 page novel or a complete white paper on CFCs. You don’t even know what a CFC is do you BS boy?

            I don’t have to prove my job experience. A pickledick like you does. Now stop masturbating. Your brain died at birth the minute your Mommy exited you from her birth canal and realized she spawned the exact image of your cockrot father.

          47. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            you never worked a minute of a day in your life you never even tried to think for your self not even ounce in your entire life sucking up welfare all your life the only reason you love communist party health care and like all you hypochondriacs you will do anything it takes to get more welfare not less we the taxpayers of the united soviet america simply van not afford to give you more we have bills to pay and family to feed as well

          48. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            the part where you are lying through your teeth about having a business you lazy welfare rat

          49. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            if you paid that little your business is a failure or you are a tax evader personally i simply do not think you are smart enough to be a tax evader

          50. Eleanore Whitaker May 18, 2017

            You prove you know the Commies better than any of us. Now really Newmeeee why wouldn’t a Putin asskisser?

          51. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            i am a capitalist you are a communist i believe in free enterprise you believe in communist party health care i love my constitutional rights you simply do not want yours trouble is you simply do not want anybody else to have their constitutional rights either you simply can not even think for your self and simply do not want to you simply can not even run your own life what the hell makes you think i would let an idiot like you run my life

          52. Eleanore Whitaker May 18, 2017

            Unlike you, I am an American. I don’t define myself as you do by your tyrannical belief system.

            As for being a capitalist? I find it ironic that you label yourself precisely as Putin did when he was running for president. Yet, we all know Putin, the former KGB official, is more than just a capitalist. He is a crook who has no reservations about assassinating his competitors or anyone who dares to dissent.

            I believe in the Constitution. Unlike you, you believe in the ABUSE of the Constitution. When the 1st Amendment states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, you nutbaggers decide that inteprets to me only Fundamentalists are protected by that part of the 1st Amendment.

            When the 1st Amendment states, “or abridging the freedom of speech, you get your billionaire media moguls like Turner, Murdoch and the Kock boys to buy up huge media conglomerates to suppress freee speech and publish ONLY what YOU think is okay for us to know. Not abuse though right?

            Then, there is the infamous part you righties hate most about the 1st Amendment: “The right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Hell, you capitalists are the tyrants who would rather put half the country in prison for daring to stop you from abuses in your scam ads, dangerous products and services and then you call that “free enterprise” Really? For you only right rightie boy?

            And, by the way, where in the US Constitution can you cite that billionaires who enjoy Free Enterprise should pay ZERO taxes or get government subsidies? Find that citation. I dare you.

          53. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            you really are insane and really communist as well way to much illegal narcotics i guess simply can not live with out welfare simply hate everything about freedom absolutely no independent thought of any kind simply will not work or earn a living and will fight to your dying breath to sit on your ass at taxpayer expense

          54. Eleanore Whitaker May 18, 2017

            I truly hope you have proof of your accusations, because you know if I decide to haul your ass into court for smearing my reputation by your unfounded attacks, you will make me a very wealthy woman. Stop posting cockrot. You know you are running a Russian Putin Smear Campaign against everyone who won’t agree with you and your lawless BS.

            Keep posting your lies and smear campaigns and see if I don’t make good on my threat. I NEVER make idle threats. And National Memo will not fare well for allowing you to make statements you can’t prove.

          55. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            only insane people like you with absolutely no leg to stand on make threats they simply can not follow through on just like you seem to not realize all the nasty things you say about me it does cut both ways and you would lose on these grounds alone you would make a lousy lawyer but you are a great laugh keep up the good work i need a good laugh

          56. Eleanore Whitaker May 19, 2017

            Unfortunately for a prickface like you, I was a professional dancer in my teens in ballet, tap and jazz. Stop mastubating moron. That means I have dancer’s legs and not the fat Redwood tree trunks and thunder thighs you have.

            What I say about a dipshit like you is deserved.

            You are not an American. You supported and voted for a moron who had a landfill of lawsuits and fines for decades and who always cheats to win at anything..Which is why he got that 2013 FinCEN fine for money laundering at the Taj Mahal.

            You kind never learn you are powerless to force others to fall in line with your right wing delusions of grandeur. When you get a life AND an education, you get posts worthy of that. Not until.

          57. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            so basically you were the worlds ugliest stripper simply could not make any money at it and gave up on life decided to live on welfare in your parents basement in shame and will do absolutely anything it take to simply not actually work for a living ans waste as much taxpayer money as possible

          58. Eleanore Whitaker May 19, 2017

            If figures you’d have that gutter mind in your gutter as usual. No moron. I was never a stripper. But when you can perform fouette tourne, entrechat and pirouettes, do let me know.

            When you know how to do a Cinncinati, time step or Cubanola in tap dance, I’ll applaud. When you’ve had teachers like David Howard of Royal Ballet, Al Gilbert for tap or Luigi for jazz, let me know.

            Till then you are still the same old moron traitor who sucks up to a thug mobster like Trump.

            But, one question does come to mind about you…How many phone calls do you get from Putin? As many as Trump?

          59. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            so basically you failed as a prostitute as well as a stripper how sad never got any calls from your friend putin either only communist party members like you simply trying to destroy the constitution get calls from him and when he wants your opinion he will give it to you since you simply can not actually come up with 1 of your own trouble is you simply do not want an opinion of your own you simply do not want to think for your self or let anybody else think for them self either

          60. Eleanore Whitaker May 19, 2017

            So basically, you admit you are a Russian paid troll. Good. Finally. As for me moron, I hate Trump for no reason other than what I’ve known about him and what HE did to MY state.

            But you go right on kissing Putin’s ass and Trump’s. See if you don’t end up like Trump…disgraced, disgusting and unable to prove you are an American citizen.

          61. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            ni i am an american you are a communist i believe in the freedom of the people you believe in dictatorship with no civil rights for anybody not even yourself and the only claim to fame nj actually ever had was casino gambling and legalized prostitution

          62. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

            I assume you simply don’t do any research nor even attempt to think rationally?

            The FACTS are the FACTS, check them out with Federal Government agencies which will take quite a while, but will show you where the FACTS originate.

            As for working two jobs I assume you don’t work any as you seem to always be on this blog ignoring FACTS.

            I’m a software developer and have free time between re-compiles, but I definitely am still working and paying taxes so folks like you can blog.

          63. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            If you put FACT in all-caps, it makes your dumb debunked lies true! That is a FACT!

          64. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

            You must be a rocket scientist with a foul mouth?

          65. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            how did you guess

          66. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            I said nothing that was “foul”, failure. And that is a FACT.

          67. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            communist party doctrine is foul and the only thing you ever say you would be a poster boy for any communist country in the world and the best reason to avoid going there as well

          68. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK not sure when you think I mentioned Communism – presumably this is diagnostic of your galloping senility.

          69. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            you only spout communist party doctrine absolutely nothing else so you are either a communist or a religious fanatic or both either way absolutely no independent thought absolutely no want or desire for your own constitutional ; tights you simply do not want to think for your self or do for your self you simply want someone else to change your diapers make your bottle at tax payer expense

          70. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            Weird how you call everyone ELSE a communist when you’re Putin’s manbride.

          71. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            no you are the one who wants communist party health care not me you are the one who simply does not want his civil rights and simply does not want anybody else to have their civil rights either so you are the one with putin penis in your anus not me

          72. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 15, 2017

            You tell yourself that as you rouge up your cheeks.

          73. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 15, 2017

            Also name the specific civil rights I am in favor of removing. I bet you cannot.

          74. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            the first amendment fredom of choice and all of the rest as well you simply are a complete an total coommunist charity begiins at home taxation with out representation is not charity forcing me to pay for people i personally am not responsible for is taxtiion with out representation

          75. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 15, 2017

            What is your basis for these dumb lies? Oh, right, you’re a dull freaking traitor unemployable moron who can’t spell or use punctuation. Sorry you think stupid thinks, gramps, but your senile rage would be better directed at things that – you know – are real.

          76. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            you are the liar you are completely insane you are a communist you live on welfare so you think anything that wants to cut you off is wrong well personally it is not my fault you are completely useless and i personally do not want to support you and simply should not have to trouble is i am out numbered by idiotic communist like you so i am being forced to support useless people like you charity begins at home taxation with out representation simply is not charity

          77. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 16, 2017

            OK traitor. Time for you to get back to desperately defending Trump’s treason on behalf of your Russian owners.

          78. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            i have absolutely nothing to do with russia i speak for my self and many millions like me sick and tired of leaches like you constantly demanding more more at tax payer expense and we the taxpayer simply can not afford any more and you leaches simply get way to much already

          79. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 16, 2017

            *traitor voice* i have absolutely nothing to do with russia!!!1

          80. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            you certianly act like 1 communist party member all the way through

          81. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 16, 2017

            *illiterate traitor voice* you certianly act like 1 communist party member all the way through

          82. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            i am not the 1 trying to save everybody no matter what or how i am not the 1 doing the beat i can to violate everybody else constitutional right i am not a insane false idol worshiper with delusions of grander you are like everybody else on this web site you simply do not have even the sleight est idea of what you are talking about but your own insanity blinds you makes you feel morally superior even though you are morally inferior

          83. *super traitor voice* i am not the 1 trying to save everybody no matter what or how i am not the 1 doing the beat i can to violate everybody else constitutional right i am not a insane false idol worshiper with delusions of grander you are like everybody else on this web site you simply do not have eventhe sleight est idea of what you are talking about but your own insanity blinds you makes you feel morally superior even though you are morally inferior

          84. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            you are the only morally inferior person with absolutely no idea of what it is talking about now have mommy change your diaper and get you a fresh bottle and read you a story take a nap things might be better when you wake up

          85. *ultra traitor voice* you are the only morally inferior person with absolutely no idea of what
            it is talking about now have mommy change your diaper and get you a
            fresh bottle and read you a story take a nap things might be better when
            you wake up

          86. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            little panty waste hypochondriac like you who simply can not even run their own life are so funny your own self important self deluded ego mania to bad it is all in your own little mind and nobody else takes you seriously

          87. *bedwetter voice* little panty waste hypochondriac like you who simply can not even run
            their own life are so funny your own self important self deluded ego
            mania to bad it is all in your own little mind and nobody else takes you
            seriously

          88. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            as expected absolutely no original thought of any kind completely retarded

          89. *traitor voice* as expected absolutely no original thought of any kind completely retarded

          90. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            mocking bird proves my point exactly not 1 single brain cell in your head but since you simply do not want to think for your self i guess it simply does not matter

          91. *whiny traitor voice* mocking bird proves my point exactly not 1 single brain cell in your
            head but since you simply do not want to think for your self i guess it
            simply does not matter

          92. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 15, 2017

            Also literally none of those are “civil rights”, not even “fredom (sic) of choice”.

          93. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            you never read the constitution did you 1st amendment freedom of speech freedom of religion and freedom of choice all guaranty civil rights things you clearly violate by forcing people like me to pay for people like you but as long as you simply do not actually have to work for a living your happy

          94. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 16, 2017

            Yes, like I said: not a civil right. Sorry you are stupid!

          95. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            yes it is a civil right you are insane and communist who simply does not want it because it would mean you would actually have to work for a living and we both know how much you would hate that

          96. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 16, 2017

            Sorry, the “1st Amendment” is not a civil right. Sorry you’re stupid!

            And, as I predicted, you have utterly failed to find a single civil right I am in favor of removing. Weird, it’s almost like you’re an illiterate senile old man who just makes up stuff.

            Soiling your adult diapers in a rage will not make you less of a failure, let alone less of a traitor, traitor.

          97. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            yes it is you totally insane nut case you simply do not want it for your self or anybody else becuse it would mean you actually have to work for living and change your own diapers

          98. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 16, 2017

            *very stupid traitor voice* yes it is you totally insane nut case you simply do not want it for your self or anybody else becuse it would mean you actually have to work for living and change your own diapers

          99. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            your brain damage is so severe there simply is no help for you

          100. *snivelling traitor voice* your brain damage is so severe there simply is no help for you

          101. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            your brain damage is self induced you did it to your self my guess to much l s d

          102. * America-hating traitor voice* your brain damage is self induced you did it to your self my guess to much l s d

          103. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            personally i never even took an aspirin in my whole life where as you probably took an entire drug store legal and illegal you seem to be that kind of guy committed every illegal act you possibile to supply your habit the only actual reason you are in favor of communist party health care

          104. *racist voice* personally i never even took an aspirin in my whole life where as you probably took an entire drug store legal and illegal you seem to be that kind of guy committed every illegal act you possibile to supply your habit the only actual reason you are in favor of communist party health care

          105. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            like i said absolutely no original thought

          106. *racist voice* like i said absolutely no original thought

          107. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            i am not a racist like you i actually think for my self some thing you never did or ever will because you simply do not want to if somebody wants your opinion they will give it to and you will like it

          108. *ultra-racist traitor voice* i am not a racist like you i actually think for my self some thing you
            never did or ever will because you simply do not want to if somebody
            wants your opinion they will give it to and you will like it

          109. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

            you simply refuse to tle care of your sellf you simply can not pay someone eles to do it so you want to force the txpayer to pay someone to take care of you leach

          110. *anti-American traitor voice* you simply refuse to tle care of your sellf you simply can not pay
            someone eles to do it so you want to force the txpayer to pay someone
            to take care of you leach

          111. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            mocking bird proves you simply can not think for your self dress your self feed your self simply can not afford to pay someone else to do it for you and simply want the taxpayer to pay someone to by force if need be leach

          112. *traitor voice* mocking bird proves you simply can not think for your self dress your
            self feed your self simply can not afford to pay someone else to do it
            for you and simply want the taxpayer to pay someone to by force if need
            be leach

          113. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            you really are insane freedom of choice is a civil right freedom of speech is a civil right you are so stupid and such a communist

          114. *Confederate traitor voice* you really are insane freedom of choice is a civil right freedom of
            speech is a civil right you are so stupid and such a communist

          115. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            mocking bird mocking bird funny little mocking bird when i want your opinion i will give it to you

          116. *white supremacist voice* mocking bird mocking bird funny little mocking bird when i want your opinion i will give it to you

          117. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            simply can not think for yourself mocking bird

          118. *sold out the nation voice* simply can not think for yourself mocking bird

          119. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            petty stupid little what ever you are

          120. *traitor voice* petty stupid little what ever you are

          121. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            the only person committing treason is you

          122. *fake veteran voice* the only person committing treason is you

          123. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            i served in 2 wars you never served anybody other than yourself coward communist idiot

          124. *fake veteran voice* i served in 2 wars you never served anybody other than yourself coward communist idiot

          125. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/85ef6b7810229bd598f0c4cd62f5b74921e8043224888956c5a2c4e59bb689ff.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/efeaecb9adf2b8c581396695edd4d2ee3374dee4c4e2bcfc9d39dc76771e7604.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e3e525ecd27029bd309733c046c448698f449b93f61072f38619b8070be20ed.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5d16a00c8270406b1524f7de31ee0b2a9f08f0b46143ce1ed926a16811b3b13e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d0c64396bc8bfefe07ff479384a4de147fe14ffb4eac8771e04881c8acd50ef.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef6f858f455313cf2f8d3c1c0474c6e016b824ddefacdb59d9354fff6eae53f4.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ee877618c78b8c878207806b0cd1cec9db7e1dd0bd590c7b225c220102c7c15.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/71d0f8a4056a15da6432b61ba73cd5b6b00d6d47d99229de3c7e3887cef2f87c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e3c472a64463a8131b326ee7f4272532b8474d975564c7b0c61f0146f7a8cbf2.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eece16c0c2b4c0342fa2e5c853c46ae7636f5aec544f0a61e50b601809fc694b.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d0a419046c171db48dcb26ff9d28384f2721801cbd8fba372a9b6cc235572b2f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0eb3aa382ea2d64867fe6ce85dcb0985d8242eda0b699639fd30540e6ab06616.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a47dc4d8e4fa3f7f72f573ebc9b16447166d7983c5e80a8e320a36758aff56e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/500b47ff4105027129f9423745cb03e5eec42ed984697efa60910ae7a3e5333e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/599b3a3e974590e0e0953d4bc8a5a3591cc509c94bea5c4b62c0b1fc4762c6eb.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d1c8786f05311a0b713dfdceacf2f76f0e1dc784a2e5a711d81dc3f512a51590.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/55dbfa3130b36accca95afc4eb15484cb5292a6b52dffd2ef4eff41ee9b5af5c.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc354485e5042a6c1768fe1aa9f718710e10543f1f45d17654754406bd503f7f.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0e96f5390c08bfdfd2b649a595c852e2e2a7a13532134266f3403669bbc72cb1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/41d3610198f7308adaf02a49a1397d8ff98c0bf399c1e667ee576a42b1665ffc.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0cc4137fbf7d6bc1b2b61327a1956dc3b6f28af6535d6be68d0ac699959c4dd1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30542732dc7ceeb080ade918e5823c935718694b3a7244cb1f458065db952ac1.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a014999964f84b4b26c9c62d0cf24930294c7ecb1239e47810d245299abbd4e7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c70af76f90d4e41d58822730c45f8e352f57c9ec48aaeb3da56690c99c3554f8.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2777b23274924f4eb5637ff432c8a470597c990a5c86b78676272b5b81193ff1.jpg

          126. *traitor voice* …

          127. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            the only failure here is you the only person committing treason here is you

          128. *extreme traitor voice* the only failure here is you the only person committing treason here is you

          129. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            the only real idiot here is you

          130. *senile traitor voice* the only real idiot here is you

          131. I’m not the guy arguing with a couple dozen lines of javascript, champ.

          132. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            no you are the insane idiot with absolutely no independence who simply wants to suck me and every other taxpayer dry so you simply do not have to support your self

          133. *traitor voice* no you are the insane idiot with absolutely no independence who simply
            wants to suck me and every other taxpayer dry so you simply do not have
            to support your self

          134. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            read this it is why i sent it to you

          135. *bootlicking coward voice* read this it is why i sent it to you

          136. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            oh i forgot you simply do not believe in the constitution or the freedom of the people you only believe on being a burden on the taxpayer committing welfare fraud

          137. *extreme traitor voice* oh i forgot you simply do not believe in the constitution or the
            freedom of the people you only believe on being a burden on the taxpayer
            committing welfare fraud

          138. alfred e newman May 21, 2017

            mocking bird

          139. *fake veteran voice* mocking bird

          140. alfred e newman May 21, 2017

            ok retarded waste of taxpayer money

          141. *Nazi traitor voice* ok retarded waste of taxpayer money

          142. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

            look whose talking the completely dependent sheep just waiting to be eaten

          143. *fake veteran voice* look whose talking the completely dependent sheep just waiting to be eaten

          144. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

            this is you to a t mocking bird

          145. *traitor voice* this is you to a t mocking bird

          146. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

            mock mock mock you idiot

          147. *senile voice* mock mock mock you idiot

          148. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            all of them you simply do not want any civil rights at all and you simply do not want anybody else to have any civil rights either it is simply your communist morality and your mental illness since you simply can not think for your self or run your own life you simply want to run everybody else life ti bad they simply will not let you

          149. “all of them”

            I gotta say, even for you this is moronic.

          150. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

            you simply do not believe in the constitution in any way shape or form only your own bent twisted insane little world where you are complete control and you are the only opinion that matters and you are so insane you do not even realize just how funny you really are

          151. *moron voice* you simply do not believe in the constitution in any way shape or form
            only your own bent twisted insane little world where you are complete
            control and you are the only opinion that matters and you are so insane
            you do not even realize just how funny you really are

          152. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

            you to a t your insanity rules

          153. *super moron voice* you to a t your insanity rules

          154. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            fact is still better than fiction religion is fiction

          155. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            OK Adolf.

          156. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            names alfred not adolf idiot

          157. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK Adolf.

          158. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            You ASSume wrong. I am semi retired as a result of the boy genius ultra CON Republican who bought our company and then ran it into the ground with his inability to admit he was a biologist, not an engineer. Mommy bought him his first erector set at age 8 and like you he became Mr. KNOW IT ALL and thought an erector set was an engineering degree…You know? Like you think you are a Master of the Universe.

            Tell us. Don’t you EVER get tired of being a phony?

            As for working 2 jobs asslicker, I did that for almost 3 decades. One full time and 1, sometimes, 2 part time jobs. I was a single Mom who didn’t need a cock like you to support me or my two kids.

            So phony tell us…how many people have YOU stolen from?

          159. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            Now it’s perfectly clear why you have such a poor attitude; i.e., your husband left you alone and probably didn’t even pay child support. The “boy genius” evidently had the resources to “buy your company”. I would never alibi for anyone on such a measure as I don’t know the facts.

            My sister went through the same (2 husbands) and raised 2 kids from her 2nd husband’s prior marriage and 2 (biological) by her 2nd husband, but was never bitter, like you.

            But, it seems, quite often, bitterness runs in those on the Left.

            To top it off, the 2nd husband didn’t pay child support and worked 2 or more jobs as well as volunteering in many community activities until she passed away in March.

            Life is tough, but the tough make it work 🙂

          160. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            trouble is we simply do not have enough tough all we seem to have are whiny little dependent weakling constantly crying oh my aching back even though they never did a days work in their whole worthless life all they do is suck the taxpayer dry an cry more more more we the taxpayer simply can not afford any more

          161. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            Finally your “Stream of Consciousness” has identified and correctly diagnosed yourself to an absolute “T”. 🙂

            When you look in a mirror do you see one looking back at you?

            Evidently, NOT!

          162. alfred e newman May 13, 2017

            at least i am not a communist free loader like you who simply can not even think for your self or dress your self or feed your self now have nonny make you a fresh bottle and change your diaper and read you a fairy tale about how important you simply are not

          163. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            i see a very handsome man

          164. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            you needed a cock to have 2 kids

          165. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

            the 1 and only 1 job they actually had was to up hold and defend the constitution the 1 and only 1 job they never did

          166. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

            Spot On!

            obamba’s early withdrawal gave birth to ISIS/ISIL and strengthened Al Qaeda which is now a serious threat once again.

            Before obamba pulled out Al Qaeda was shrinking is stature.

          167. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            Yeah man! A neo-Nazi agrees you! That is not a reason to immediately rethink your policies, unless you are not an un-American traitor!

          168. Thoughtopsy May 9, 2017

            Talking to your own sockpuppet just looks pathetic, “Rich”.

          169. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

            that simply does not matter at the rate they are killing each other off there simply will not be any left soon enough just like the idiot christian they will be extinct

          170. RichFromShowMe May 22, 2017

            Radical Muslims use two strategies to conquer new territory; (1) by the sword and (2) by their hatch rate which is 2 to 5, or more, times greater than the indigenous population.

            Consider what’s happening in Europe (Germany, Sweden, Britain, etc.) which have low birth rates and millions of invaders . . . . they will grow geometrically.

            http://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a20011/western-women-who-join-isis/

            America is heading down this path, a city at a time. Hamtramack and Dearborn Michigan are examples of America’s future.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-the-first-majority-muslim-us-city-residents-tense-about-its-future/2015/11/21/45d0ea96-8a24-11e5-be39-0034bb576eee_story.html?utm_term=.de96415c7a90

          171. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

            you have to realize the countries you mention only have a land area about the size of the state of texas each and still in all the way they kill them self for their idiotic religion and the way they kill each other and with christian killing them all at the same time extinction is right around the corner we simply have to keep the death rate equal to or a little higher than birth rate

          172. RichFromShowMe May 22, 2017

            I tend to agree with your assumption, but, the world is at risk until it gets its act together and exterminates Terrorists, the world over.

          173. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

            1 mans terrorist is another mans hero eliminate 1 group another 1 pops up and beside no terrorist means unemployment for military as well as law enforcement and somewhat less population control law of nature survival of the fittest balance of nature right amount of pray for each predator

          174. alfred e newman May 24, 2017

            this will never happen as long as there is false idol worship

          175. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            you really do not have any idea what you are talking about i guess that is why you love talking out your ass

          176. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

            Sorry, to press you with 3rd grade math . . . I do apologize! 🙂

          177. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            people like you give illiteracy a bad name

      2. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

        Sure, it’s literally never worked in two centuries of trying, but let’s give more money to the inbred rich! Also this money comes from letting people die!

        I’ve said it before, but you do not know a goddam thing about economics, and you’re a disgusting sack of garbage.

        1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

          I see you’re still alive and posting irrational and obviously non-researched opinions, plus you still have the foul mouth . . . the indication that you have no FACTs to back up your statements.

          Question: Not knowing what your income is, and don’t really care, what if you could deduct the first $25,000 and then pay 10% on the remaining balance.

          Would this be less than you paid, if you paid anything, this year?

          What would you do with the excess income? Invest it, buy a car or refrigerator or simply drink it up?

          No matter what you would do it helps the economy grow, even if it is against your will.

          Rich folks, of which I am not one, got rich by investing their money and creating jobs for us poor folks.

          1. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            It’s weird how you conservatives only ever have one answer for every problem, and it’s trickle-down economics – which, again, has never worked.

            Additionally, I’m sorry but not surprised to hear that you’re a failure.

          2. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

            I do not consider myself a failure, but you are welcome to be wrong, which just reinforces your false belief that ‘trickle down economics’ doesn’t work.

            The entire Free World’s Economy is based on this FACT.

            Now, assuming you are from the “other world” I can see your belief that it doesn’t work.

          3. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            OK sorry I don’t speak Russian, bootlicker.

          4. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            you can learn can you not even with 1 and only 1 brain cell in your head if the russian can you can

          5. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK Ivan.

          6. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            name is alfred not ivan idiot

          7. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK Ivan.

          8. Magnus Thunderson May 9, 2017

            Trickle theory only works in one direction in a free market and that is up as when bush gave his first 300 tax bribe which only went to people who paid federal tax and had no effect the next went to all citizens and had a notable bump. so trickle up does work but the only way to trickle down is increased tax’s

          9. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            free enterprise the most expensive end up out of business at their own hand because nobody is willing to pay that much not even super rich

          10. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            but you are a major failure as a independent person

          11. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            you are a failure

          12. *shaky old man voice* you are a failure

          13. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

            completely dependent totally insane you are so funny

          14. *Hitler-lover voice* completely dependent totally insane you are so funny

          15. Thoughtopsy May 9, 2017

            Sure buddy.
            Totally believe everything you say.
            What does the binder beside you say to type next?
            Are you going to apply for retraining?

          16. Magnus Thunderson May 9, 2017

            yep they do enjoy your job at walmart

          17. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

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          18. alfred e newman May 21, 2017

            the thing you people hate the most just like all communist party members

        2. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

          actually it comes from prolonging suffering that is what keeps people employed the longer they make you suffer the more money they make

          1. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 9, 2017

            OK traitor

          2. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            you are the 1 that is doing everything in your limited power to destroy the constitution not me

          3. ♚ King Leo ♚ May 10, 2017

            OK traitor.

          4. Magnus Thunderson May 9, 2017

            yep when the limited doctors left who are wiling to accept Medicaid now how many will be left when there pay is 25% less

          5. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            if they cut off all tax payer money completely so the doctor had to rely on the patient only for payment and not the tax payer the price would drop dramatically or the doctor simply would not have any patients at all even the super rich simply would not use the doctor who had the highest price and the free enterprise system would keep prices low just think of what you can do with all the money they simply will not be taking out of your pay check for communist party health care trillions of dollars a year and a much smaller federal drpt because of far less wasted money

      3. Magnus Thunderson May 9, 2017

        smoke and mirrors this bill will not help at all the middle class and screw the poor and only benefit the rich and we all know what trickle down works

        1. RichFromShowMe May 9, 2017

          If you have the ability to subtract $25,000 (for a joint return) from the gross pay, then multiply the remainder by 5, 10 and 15%, depending on the increments of your income, I challenge you to compare that to what you paid in federal taxes in 2016.

          But, on the other hand, that might just prove with irrefutable FACTS what the tax cut will do for working folks. I assume you don’t want to know the TRUTH, as so many others on this blog like to live in their own Virtual Reality. 🙂

          Once the Senate does whatever the Senate will do to the Tax cuts they may differ, but since Senators want to get re-elected I doubt the tax cuts will vary much, if any, from what was in the House Bill.

          1. Magnus Thunderson May 9, 2017

            let get to heath care heath care not tax’s as the only tax’s here is the huge tax cuts for the rich not middle class and the poor get hit very hard with 25% cut to Medicare which is so lean most doctors totally refuse to accept it now. and they done something already to put them in very hot water as those who voted for this bill are being screamed at so much at there town meetings they avoiding them,

          2. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            completely cut of tax payer funds fir health care let free enterprise take over

          3. Magnus Thunderson May 10, 2017

            currently there one necessary industry that running under free enterprise which is our Pharmaceutical industry on the pricing side and thank god it on the development side so in the past 8 years drug prices have gone up 208% which show there using a best profit formula to set the price and that why free enterprise does not work on necessary services

          4. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            that is why the tax payer pays for 90% of all the drugs in america and as long as they can suck the tax payer dry the price will be high if the patient actually had to pay for it with absolutely no help from the tax payer the drug company would not be able to charge that kind of money since no body could afford it they would go out of business if they did not lower the price

          5. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            true very true they love having their head up their ass absolutely anything to simply not have to actually think for them self

          6. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            Gee that’s funny, in 2004, the 1st of 2 Bush tax cuts was reported by the GAO, Bloomberg News and the Financial Times as increasing the wealth of the 1% by 11%.

            You are such a liar. Who in the hell would EVER put any faith in anything a rip off artist like you posts?

          7. RichFromShowMe May 10, 2017

            Yes, it did increase the wealth of the top 1%, while, at the same time, it increased the wealth of the middle class and increased the number in the middle class by around 5%; i.e.., those moving from “low to no” income, up to the middle class.

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/12/06/why-america-is-going-to-miss-the-bush-tax-cuts/#780290e7800a

        2. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

          it only trickles down your leg making a stain in your underwear

          1. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            Wow…brilliance from a dipshit?

      4. Thoughtopsy May 9, 2017

        You have to be the stupidest troll on here.
        And that’s really saying something, since “itsfun” is still posting…

        1. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

          true very true these communist idiots are so funny with their total insanity thinking we the people have to pay for other peoples personal problems when we actually have more than enough problems of our own and nobody is helping us

          1. A. D. Reed May 10, 2017

            At least you finally admit it: you and RichfromShowMe and the other trolls “have more than enough problems of your own.” Indeed, there aren’t enough spaces in mental health facilities to take you in.

  10. idamag May 9, 2017

    Questionnaire:
    1. Which party is more concerned with money than people?
    2. What party did the president belong to who tried to get healthcare for all?
    3. How much did Jesus charge for healing the sick?

    Reply
    1. alfred e newman May 9, 2017

      jesus did nothing denonazi did all the rest

    2. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

      both

    3. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

      jesus never actually healed anybody both want all the money and healthcare simply should not be a taxpayer responsibility

      1. idamag May 20, 2017

        No, healthcare should not even be regulated so that insurance companies must now pay 80% of premiums for healthcare and not 22 million dollar bonuses for CEOs. We should not even care about the child with cancer, but we should give big tax breaks to multi-national corporations. We should spend taxpayer dollars on trying to discredit someone who just might run for president someday. We shouldn’t mind 3 million dollar weekends for golfing and grooming big spenders in a casino. We should willingly spend millions of dollars for trips to Russia by the president’s son. We now have two gigantic facilities to take the place of Camp David for R and R. That spending is okay, but not to save one life of someone who isn’t rich. Every civilized country in the world, has healthcare for their people. We are just not a civilized country. I never complained about paying taxes. I was honored to support my democracy. People who are so selfish they do not want to pay taxes are not very loyal to this country. They are loyal to themselves.

        1. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

          survival of the fittest there really is no reason other than money to make them suffer longer than they actually have to they call it a hospital the sick and dying call it a torture chamber even they will tell you better dead than being a lab rat especially when the only reason they do it is to keep people employed and to make money they simply do not care 1 way or the other about you or anybody else as long as they get paid since they know for a fact there really is nothing they can actually do for them

  11. Thoughtopsy May 9, 2017

    Here’s the central lie of the GOP and the moronic trolls on here:
    They pretend as if the economy isn’t utterly slanted in favor of the wealthy.
    They pretend as if everyone starts off equal in American society and then the course of their life, and degree of wealth, is a reflection of their virtue.

    You see by pretending that “everyone is equal”, and you can “just pull yourself up by your bootstraps”, and “where there’s a will, there’s a way”, and “success comes to those who want it the most”…
    They get to fap themselves over their own moderate to extreme success… and demonize anyone who is poor because they are “lazy” or “didn’t work hard enough”.

    Demonization is the GOP’s go-to move.
    When you demonize a group of people you don’t have to care about them, and you feel less guilty about destroying their health, opportunity and in the end, lives, in order to make money off them through business or tax cuts.

    It’s pathetically easy to shoot this bullsh1t down in a few seconds of rational thought.
    For example: Lets say the next Bill Gates is born in a poor black community. Very smart, very driven. Poor as hell, and can’t afford health insurance.
    He somehow manages to scrape together opportunities to get educated at a shitty college. Works his ASS off. Undoubtedly is going to do amazing things, start some incredible company, and possibly transform the American economy… but in his final year of college, before he can start his amazing company, he gets Hepatitis through no fault of his own and needs a liver transplant. He has no health insurance after some variant of the criminally cruel AHCA passes… even if he manages the transplant costs through charity, he now has a “pre-existing condition” and can’t purchase the drugs he needs to live. He dies. And the economy never gets the benefit of his talent.. or drive.. or the income or jobs or taxes he was going to generate over his life…

    Is this the “lazy” poor person who “didn’t work hard enough” and therefore deserved to die through lack of healthcare?
    Is this even remotely useful for the economy?

    At their core, the Dems want a level playing field for everyone in terms of food, safety, education, and opportunity… so people can become productive and compete in the economy. Those who become wealthy and successful are expected to pay progressively more into the society that allowed them to thrive, and to provide that same level playing field for everyone who comes after them.

    At their core, the GOP want to allow the wealthy and successful the freedom to do whatever they want to make more money, which includes reducing their taxes, and setting rules to ensure they can drain as much of the value in the economy upwards to themselves. Everyone else gets to compete from the day they are born for food, education, safe places to live and opportunity in a Hunger Games style meritocracy where the best and smartest survive and join the wealthy, and where the poor have almost no chance typically resulting in death, and where the amount of money you are born into exponentially improves your chances of that success.
    In other words, once you are wealthy, life is very easy, the rules work in your favor and your children’s favor, and it’s easy to stay wealthy.
    If you are poor, no matter who you are or what you do, you are highly likely to stay poor and most likely die of something preventable. And in order to not feel like the sociopathic monsters they are, Republicans tell themselves lies about how the poor are undeserving and lazy, and wealth is a sign of virtue, intelligence and acumen (even if it’s inherited… go figure)…

    Which world would you rather live in? The one where everyone gets a shot? Or the one where the wealthy get everything?

    Hint: Every other modern democracy is left of the Democratic party.

    Reply
    1. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

      you really are long winded but still insanity shows through

      1. Thoughtopsy May 10, 2017

        I note you failed to provide a single counterpoint to an extensive argument.
        You are:
        1) Lazy
        2) Ignorant
        3) Aren’t clever enough to think up a counterpoint.
        4) Think your feelings are a substitute for education, facts and logic… and intelligent debate.
        5) Too stupid to argue coherently
        6) All of the above.

        Pick one.

        If you can’t provide the basics of a counter argument and show you have an understanding of the rules of debate you get only derision from me, old timer.

        Have you considered you are simply angry, conservative, past the point of being usefully coherent, and only typing inflammatory bullsh1t here because people will validate your existence by replying to your ranting?

        I’d take a breath and have a good think about that.

        1. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

          still very long winded still insane i see you people simply want everything for free you simply do not want to think for your self you simply can not feed your self or even wipe your own ass yet you actually constantly try to run everybody else life even though you simply can not even run your own life people like you are so funny you actually think your opinion matters

          1. Thoughtopsy May 11, 2017

            Still no answer to any specific point.

            Looks like I need to block you because the “User Blocked” line is actually more informative and useful than someone who doesn’t understand how to debate, and only posts personal insults, and deranged off-topic rambles about nothing. It also amuses me that you posted an irrelevant rant about nothing this forum to explain to me that MY posted opinion doesn’t matter… LOL I’m assuming you’re missing the irony in that one… ah well.

            See ya, crazy old guy.

            Oh… You know I can see You reflected in your replies, right?
            Your chosen insults reflect your own beliefs about yourself and your situation.

            Not. A. Pretty. Sight.

          2. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

            look whose talking a morally bankrupt religious fanatic who actually thinks its opinion natters if you actually had 1 and only 1 brain cell in your head you would be dangerous

        2. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

          have you considered you are a communist with absolutely no free will trouble is you simply do not want free will but you simply do not want anybody else to have free will either pay your own doctor bills out of your own pocket not mine you leach

    2. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

      you are a long winded idiot are you not

      1. *illiterate traitor voice* you are a long winded idiot are you not

  12. A. D. Reed May 9, 2017

    I hate being cynical, but the last sentence of the article evokes my worst character flaw.
    Conasan writes, “Many of them voted for Trump, believing his campaign promises about providing better care for all. They shouldn’t pay with their lives for that mistake.”

    Why not? They brought it on themselves, and on the rest of us. The more of them who DO “pay with their lives for that mistake,” the fewer of them there will be to vote for the evil thugs next time.

    Wow! I’m sounding like an actual Republican!

    Reply
    1. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

      no a real communist

      1. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

        The thing about Communism today? Their healthcare won’t charge $140,000 a year for cancer medication. Your government will. Not to worry…part of that will end up in Republican campaigns.

        HMOs always have a line item for political campaign donations and lobbying fees that are paid for by the sick and the dying.

        1. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

          why not the dying really do not need the money any way and the sick simply want to be sick so they simply do not have to work for a living works out well all the way around

          1. A. D. Reed May 10, 2017

            You must be a Republican. Or a soviet troll. There are actually people who are sick, who have cancer, or heart failure, or stage four kidney disease, or debilitating diabetes, or black lung disease, or chronic emphysema, or blindness … and they don’t “want to be sick so they simply do not have to work for a living.”

            You must agree with what Alan Grayson said was the Republican healthcare plan: if you’re that sick, die. And do it quickly.

            You, on the other hand, are sick–in the head.

          2. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            absolutely no body lives forever and the only reason you are concerned is because you are making money on them you really do not care how much they suffer as long as you get paid but as soon as they run out of money you run out of care and then it to bad for them oh well on to the next one at least till they run out of money there simply nothing you can actually do for these people but to keep making money you keep selling false hope

          3. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            Face facts. You are the only one who thinks you are intelligent. Your Mommy tossed your ass out of her basement, right mall rat?

            Your Daddy decided he had enough of your bone idle BS and sent you packing.

            All of your protestations to the contrary prove you are seriously mentally ill.

            Did Putin put radioactive material in your cornflakes? Oh. That’s right, you live on a diet of soup from the local freebie soup kitchen.

          4. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            no i live in a very nice house my parents died a long time ago you have to realize i am 77 years old i was raised to be independent not communist i was born in the time of self reliance not total dependence you people were born to total dependence with absolutely no idea of what it is like to be free i know your mental illness is not your fault after all your parents are the ones who brainwashed you just like their parents brainwashed them basically insanity passed down generation to generation but it is all completely unconstitutional and a major crime against the american people

          5. A. D. Reed May 13, 2017

            I guess when you were a child they didn’t have punctuation or upper-case letters, either. Or were capitals and commas all burned up with your parents’ house after mommy died 35 years ago?

          6. alfred e newman May 13, 2017

            like i said educational and mentality level of web site communist simply are not very smart since they simply can not think for them self i try to keep it simple stupid just for you

          7. A. D. Reed May 13, 2017

            They didn’t even have plural forms last year. Wow! I guess my degree in English literature and 35 years as a professional editor and freelance writer don’t hold a candle to your “web site communist” smarts. But please don’t struggle to keep it simple stupid just for me; it’s clear that keeping it stupid is already the extent of your ability.

            By the way, don’t you have anything more productive to do with your time than keyboard nonsense all day? Or do they pay you by the character?

          8. alfred e newman May 14, 2017

            personally i do not even think you made it through kindergarten with the way you simply can not even think for your self and need other people to change your diapers like all the other cry babies on this web site stalin would be so proud of all of you complete and total government control or nothing we the hypochondriac communist party have spoken absolutely no constitutional rights for any body we simply want people who simply can not even run their own life to run our life and we simply will not stop until america is a shining example of communist party doctrine this is you

          9. A. D. Reed May 14, 2017

            No government has “complete control” of my life, including my healthcare. I pay for insurance with BCBS, choose the medical practice I go to, choose my dentist and pay her, choose where I buy eyeglasses. The difference between me and someone making ten times as much as I do is that I’m eligible for a small subsidy for my health insurance premiums, which don’t go to me but go directly to Blue Cross Blue Shield. You, on the other hand, if you’re actually 77 as you say, use free government-provided healthcare through Medicare, and collect Social Security payments to put into your bank account and pay your rent or mortgage or HOA fee or nursing home costs, and get all sorts of discounts for seniors that aren’t available to others …. sounds to me like you LOVE living off the socialist teat.

          10. alfred e newman May 14, 2017

            yes they do bcbs insurance company unlimited funding and power you are a part of it and can actually only use providers they approve or they simply will not pay and with my vast personal wealth i pay my own way like i said independent not dependent like you not a hypochondriac either i simply do not need government hand outs like you do i have pride and dignity self respect things you know nothing about i even paid for my own funeral in advance out of my pocket

          11. A. D. Reed May 14, 2017

            Unlike you, I believe in the Constitution of the United States and the Declaration of Independence that established our rules and the premises of our self-government. Unlike you, I recognize that we are all in this world together, and that it is incumbent on us as human beings to look out for each other, take care of each other, and help each other as needed. Unlike you, I believe in the Christian virtues of modesty, humility, generosity, kindness, and love for my fellow members of the human race.

            But like you, I am very glad you’ve paid in advance for your own funeral. Please do let us all know when you put it to use, so we can have a party.

          12. alfred e newman May 14, 2017

            no you do not christain false idol worshipers like you never did or ever will believe in the constitution or freedom of any kind your idiotic communist religion forbids it just like thinking for your self is forbidden just like all cockanayme religion you do as i say you simply do not have a choice your imaginary god and all of your false idols say so personally i do not have a religion and i know it is a dog eat dog world with your insanity you are the dog that gets eaten not the dog that eats people like you are cattle waiting to be slaughtered completely dependent on the people who are going to slaughter you they fatten you up and by by

          13. A. D. Reed May 15, 2017

            You really are off your meds, aren’t you!

            I’m not a Christian, or a “christian,” or a so-called “christian” like the so-called president. I’m a lifelong atheist and active member of the Ethical Humanist Society.

            However, the “Christian” virtues are also the pagan virtues that counterbalanced the Seven Deadly Sins. And like all educated, intelligent, sophisticated people (I know we are an unknown world to you), I recognize that those virtues — modesty, humility, generosity, kindness, and love — are both universal and essential to the future of human evolution. They have long been proclaimed as “Christian virtues,” though there are few “Christians” who are also politically active who actually believe in them, and fewer still who follow them. They are mostly followed and observed by humanists, atheists, pagans, wiccans, and members of a few Protestant denominations like the Unitarian Universalist Church and the United Church of Christ.

            As for your ungrounded blather about people like me being “false idol worshipers [sic] and assigning “idiotic communist religion” to me — well, as a humanist, I don’t worship any idols, as as the grandson of Russians who fed communism to find freedom in the United States nearly a century ago, I’m hardly a believe in “communist religion” — unlike the so-called president and his minions.

            However, I do plead with you: Take your meds.

          14. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            like i said dog eat dog and you are the dog that gets eaten not the one that eats you say you are an atheist but you sound like a communist religious fanatic

          15. A. D. Reed May 15, 2017

            How am I a communist? How am I a religious fanatic? How come you aren’t taking your meds as the doctor you pay for out of your own pocket (since you refuse Medicare and Social Security) ordered?

          16. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            you simply do not want your civil rights trouble is you simply do not want any boody else to have their civil rights either just like a religious fanatic some lind of christian isllamic terrorist

          17. A. D. Reed May 16, 2017

            You really do just make it up out of your febrile brain, don’t you. First, of course, you know absolutely nothing about me; second, knowing that you know nothing about me, you ascribe to me behaviors and characteristics that have no relation to reality, unless they reflect you in a mirror.

            For example, I’m a gay white male who copyedits a black-owned, multicultural newspaper, reports on and editorializes for greater civil rights activism and against the right wing’s endless opposition to equal rights; for 24 years I’ve been one of the chief organizers of the largest MLK Prayer Breakfasts in the South, serving on a committee led by African American and white individuals; I write editorials and commentary opposing the right-wing “christian” sharia law that people like Mike Pence try to impose across the country, as well as the actual sharia law of the Islamic state; I have fought for my own rights as a gay man since coming out in 1971, at age 18 …

            Yet you, in your fevered state that reminds me of Donald Trump’s ego-driven delusions, create a persona of me that is a religious “christian isllamic [sic] terrorist” fanatic.

            What is wrong with you? Have you run out of meds? Or do you just not want to spend your money on them, even though you get Medicare from (my) taxpayer’s money?

          18. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

            you really are totally insane everything you just said about yourself proves beyond a shadow of a doubt queer christian next you will be telling me you are a child molesting priest as well and you shop at walmart because boys pants are half off and no you simply do not believe in the constitution it goes against everything christians believe in

          19. A. D. Reed May 16, 2017

            How many times do I have to reiterate that I’m not a “christian” or a Christian? I have bought one item at Walmart in my entire life (because they were the only store open late that had it in stock), and I returned it the next day.

            Also, I may use the term “queer,” but you may not. In fact, you may not use any words with any real meaning, since your understanding of the English language and your ability to write is about on the same level as that of your hero and master, Donald J. Trump.

          20. alfred e newman May 23, 2017

            you sure sound like 1

          21. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            the christian religion like all others forbid you from thinking for your self and our government simply is not a religious institution the president simply is not the pope the senate simply is not the college of cardinals and the congress simply are not priests and taxpayers simply are not responsible for you or your doctor bills you are suppose to be an independent person not a leach sucking the life blood out of everybody around you

          22. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            you simply like being a leach

          23. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            yes just for you stupid

          24. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            they had it but you simply would not understand it

          25. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

            yes they are sick just to not actually have to work for a living and according to the first amendment freedom of choice i simply should not be forced to pay for them against my will charity begins at home taxation with out representation simply is not charity it is highway robbery

          26. Eleanore Whitaker May 10, 2017

            Let me guess…You are an idle bum who lives in your Mommy’s McMansion basement waiting for her to die? Good…Make sure you put that price tag on her death.

            And while you are at it sicko, get psychiatric help for that death mentality. Even the nut Hitler knew when it was time to off himself.

          27. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

            no my mom died 35 hears ago and the house burned down 2 years later it is not a death mentality it is simple nature taking its course no body lives forever and the only thing you people do is keep sadistic people employed allowing them to torture the terminally ill for profit selling false hope praying to false idols for help if any body needs a mental health pro it is you charity begins at home communist party health care is taxation with out representation and a serious violation of doctor patient confidentiality as well as the privacy act way to many people with no medical training of any kind making all kind of medical decision on a strictly business manor they simply do not care if you live or die it is simply how much money am i going to make

        2. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

          the government controls the doctors the doctors do not control the government

      2. A. D. Reed May 10, 2017

        communists — that is, residents of communist countries — don’t get to vote for anyone other than the communist candidate. They can vote yes or no, but not for an alternative.

        of course, you know less than the original alfred e newman, so …

        1. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

          i am the original and those people do not get to say anything the government tells them to jump they simply say how high it will soon be same here the doctors big drug companies and insurance companies with their unlimited power and funding thanks to communist party health care are buying congressmen and senators right and left and doing the best they can to destroy the constitution

        2. alfred e newman May 15, 2017

          welcome to the united soviet america comrade

    2. Thoughtopsy May 10, 2017

      I’m with you on that.
      I’m not the hand holding type when it comes to intellectual laziness.
      They should pay for their stupidity and apparent lack of interest in doing the bare minimum of their own research, or they won’t learn a valuable lesson:
      You get the politicians you deserve.

      Schadenfreude ahoy!

      1. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

        the only fraud is selling people false hope and torturing them to death while you make money on their suffering

    3. alfred e newman May 12, 2017

      not really but they simply were not going to live forever any way and neither will you

  13. alfred e newman May 10, 2017

    you people simply have absolutely no concept of any kind of what freedom and independence are all about you are all so bent twisted warped so totally insane but that is what makes you so funny keep up the good work i really need the laughs

    Reply
    1. Thoughtopsy May 10, 2017

      I see the asylum is letting you on the computer again…

      1. alfred e newman May 11, 2017

        you are the 1 who needs a asylum since you simply can not think for your self or dress your self to bad there simply is not enough room for all you communist dupes

      2. RichFromShowMe May 12, 2017

        Finally, we fully agree on something!

        1. This guy shares 100% of your dumb racist beliefs, you stupid slack-jawed sack of treason.

        2. Haha wait I just remembered you are so stupid you think that putting FACT in all-caps makes something true.

  14. alfred e newman May 13, 2017

    if we completely eliminate health care from the federal budget we would save trillions

    Reply
  15. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

    you people should move to russia you would be so much happier there

    Reply
  16. alfred e newman May 16, 2017

    like i said communist will be communist and you people are communist the government simply is not a religious institution or a charity organization

    Reply
  17. alfred e newman May 17, 2017

    you people are so funny please keep the laughs coming

    Reply
    1. Eleanore Whitaker May 18, 2017

      Most hyenas spend all their time laughing. However you human right wing hyenas are about to meet your Waterloo. You screwed by using those narrow minded brains thinking our European allies wouldn’t now be thrilled to get as rid of Trump as most sane Americans.

      1. alfred e newman May 18, 2017

        trump is doing a great job i will vote for him again it is all the people who simply want illegal aliens and terrorist walk all over the u s a that i will not vote for all the ones in favor of communist party health care simply will not get my vote either

        1. *extreme America-hating traitor voice* trump is doing a great job i will vote for him again it is all the people who simply want illegal aliens and terrorist walk all over the u s a that i will not vote for all the ones in favor of communist party health care simply will not get my vote either

    2. *traitor voice* you people are so funny please keep the laughs coming

  18. Eleanore Whitaker May 18, 2017

    Hey folks! Notice how often Alfred E Newman (Newmee to his Russian fellow trolls) mentions the word “Communist?” As we all know from our history books, Russia called itself “The Union of SOVIET SOCIALISTS REPUBLIC” …ooooooh ouch ouch ouch…Newmee hates communists but he loves the word?

    The proof that some very insane people in this country are not to be reasoned with and only institutionalized can be found in everyone of Newmeee’s posts.

    To him/her the only absolute power and fount of ALL knowledge come from Newmee’s delusionary world.

    Notice how every one of HIS/HER posts are packed with the same kind of smears Trump uses? See the relativity yet to Trump supporters who came up the skinhead, hick ranks for their moment in the sun?

    People like Newmee are not Americans. We know why. We don’t elect presidents whose legacy includes more criminal activity than Madoff. We don’t elect presidents whose only claim to fame is getting rich the easy way: Stealing and refusing to pay their debts.

    So…let’s do ourselves a favor in put Newmee in proper perspective. He/she is only on this thread to show how insane the right wing has become. But..Great Work there Newmeeeeee!

    Reply
    1. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

      americans are suppose to be independent not dependent you are completely dependent simply need someone else to think for you dress you feed you and since you simply can not pay someone to do this for you you simply have to force the taxpayer to pay someone to pay someone to think for you dress you feed you wipe your ass for you simply because you simply do not want to work for a living and you simply do not want your civil rights or for anybody else to have their civil rights either charity begins at home taxation without representation simply is not charity

  19. alfred e newman May 19, 2017

    like i say dog eat dog world and you are the dogs that get eaten not the dogs that eat

    Reply
    1. *traitor voice* like i say dog eat dog world and you are the dogs that get eaten not the dogs that eat

  20. alfred e newman May 20, 2017

    if you people actually had a single braincell in your head you would be dangerous but that is what makes you so funny

    Reply
  21. alfred e newman May 22, 2017

    sheep lined up for slaughter ba ba ba goes the sheep with absolutely no idea you people are sheep all lined up just waiting for slaughter wallet extended saying please take my money and lie to me

    Reply

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