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A U.S. border patrol officer sits in his vehicle along the border with Mexico near San Ysidro, California

Far be it from me to suggest that any American ought to be penalized for his or her choice of presidential candidate. One of the many things that make this democracy worth fighting to preserve is its premise of one person, one vote — a radical notion that gives the poorest citizen the same franchise as the wealthiest.

Furthermore, the secret ballot is designed to protect that fundamental right from bribery or coercion, intimidation or blackmail. You get to go into the voting booth and choose whoever you believe will best represent the national interest — and your own. You don’t have to worry about losing your job or your home or your livelihood because of the choice you’ve made.

Nevertheless, I have to wonder about the 16,500 members of the National Border Patrol Council, a union that has endorsed the candidacy of Donald Trump. Its members are federal law enforcement agents, charged with securing the country’s borders in a manner that respects the rights of those it may need to apprehend. Border Patrol agents should be evenhanded, prudent and circumspect, unflagging in upholding basic human rights.

But Trump hasn’t shown even a simple decency toward those who have entered the country illegally, especially Mexicans. Last June, he announced his candidacy for the GOP presidential nomination in a speech laced with stunning bigotry.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. … They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,” he said.

Since then, the real estate mogul has only amped up the racism. He insists that he would build a wall on our southern border — forcing Mexico to pay for it — and he’d ban entry to all Muslims. Further, he has said, he’d round up the estimated 11 million undocumented workers already here and deport them. That’s not only imprudent, but it’s also irrational.

Yet, the Border Patrol union is so impressed with Trump that it has chosen to, well, trumpet its endorsement, breaking with union history in its first-ever official support for a presidential candidate during the primaries.

“We need a person in the White House who doesn’t fear the media, who doesn’t embrace political correctness … who won’t bow to foreign dictators, who is pro-military and values law enforcement, and who is angry for America and NOT subservient to the interests of other nations. Donald Trump is such a man,” the union said in a statement.

It’s not unusual for law enforcement officers to lean to the right; they often support Republican political candidates. But the union’s statement endorsing Trump is a hodgepodge of anti-Obama, ultra-right-wing memes shot through with a healthy dose of paranoia.

Claiming its members protect the country in “an environment where our own political leaders try to keep us from doing our jobs,” they paint President Obama’s tenure as a mistake. “America has already tried a young, articulate freshman senator who never created a job as an attorney and under whose watch criminal cartels have been given the freest border reign ever known,” the statement says. Really? These people represent federal law enforcement?

That Trump has tapped into a deep reserve of xenophobia among the Republican base is no great surprise; a GOP establishment that is now panicked by his rise spent years pandering to that xenophobia. But it is surprising that a union representing more than 75 percent of the nation’s Border Patrol agents has gone into league with that base, unveiling, in the process, a dangerous hostility toward Mexicans that hardly befits the agents’ status as law enforcement representatives. Their endorsement will only undermine confidence in their ability to carry out their duties fairly.

In 2011, an Arizona-based human rights organization, No More Deaths, published a report, “A Culture of Cruelty,” alleging systematic abuse of migrants and detainees by Border Patrol agents. Further, activists with No More Deaths contend that the Homeland Security hierarchy ignores or whitewashes those abuses.

With its endorsement of Donald Trump, the National Border Patrol Council has simply given those claims even more credibility.

(Cynthia Tucker won the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007. She can be reached at cynthia@cynthiatucker.com.)

Photo: A U.S. border patrol officer sits in his vehicle along the border with Mexico near San Ysidro, California February 25, 2015.   REUTERS/Mike Blake 

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Cynthia Tucker Haynes, a veteran newspaper journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner, is a Visiting Professor of Journalism and Charlayne Hunter-Gault Distinguished Writer-in-Residence at the University of Georgia. She is also a highly-regarded commentator on TV and radio news shows.

Haynes was editorial page editor of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper for 17 years, where she led the development of opinion policy. More recently, she was that newspaper’s Washington-based political columnist. She maintains a syndicated column through Universal Press Syndicate, which is published in dozens of newspapers around the country. Besides winning the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007, Haynes has also received numerous other awards, including Journalist of the Year from the National Association of Black Journalists.

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  1. JPHALL April 1, 2016

    This is surprising why? With the negative reports about excessive force, border agents helping smugglers and agents accused of rape and other crimes against aliens of course they want someone to protect them from scrutiny. .

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    1. Independent1 April 1, 2016

      From some of the Border Patrol Council’s statements that Cynthia Tucker quoted, it sounds to me that many of the people who are gravitating to law enforcement in America today, or at least in this case those in the Border Control Council (and assuming the Council represents the thinking of most border patrol agents), are in the same class of bigots, racists and hypocrites as the clueless minions who are actively supporting the GOP today.

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  2. Phil Christensen April 2, 2016

    The USBP is clearly at wits end here, and is looking for someone, anyone who will at least give lip service to national sovereignty.
    We bemoan the ascendancy of Donal Trump, but fail to own up to our role. For the last 50 years we’ve been voting ourselves raises every first Tuesday in November. Every local alderman and state assemblyman that promises to bring money back home gets sent back to the town counsel or state house time and time again. We’ve traded our liberty for the price of a new water tower or a set of monkey bars that no one uses. The current president will leave office having proudly added $9 trillion to the national debt after calling his predecessor un-American for doing so. The system is unsustainable. Trump presents a problem, but in the way a cough is symptomatic of influenza.

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    1. Independent1 April 2, 2016

      Wow!! You spew just more lies from Faux News. Obama is responsible at best for less than 1 trillion of the increase in our national debt based on legislation that he has signed.
      Despite what you think, the debt was 12T at the end of Bush’s last budget on 9/30/09 and virtually all the remaining that has been added has been due to getting the nation back from the disaster Bush allowed to happen called he Great Recession; and the ongoing deficit increases from ALL THE UNFUNDED legislation that Bush and his irresponsible GOP led Congresses created during his disastrous 8 years – like 2 unfunded wars we’re still paying for that are now projected to be around 6 trillion; the majority of the unfunded, unwarranted tax cuts Bush signed into law; a giveaway drug benefit to Big Pharma called Medicare Part D which still runs up deficits; and a number of unfunded federal mandates to the states like the fiasco called No-child-left-behind.
      And on top of all that don’t forget two things: Obama has presided over the biggest reduction in deficit spending in America’s history and it’s been the GOP that has been in charge of setting spending since they took over the House of Reps in 2010. So the run up of our deficits isn’t Bush’s fault – then it’s the GOP Tea Partiers in Congress NOT OBAMA!!!!

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      1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

        That is the most unfactual thing you have ever posted . I have no words

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        1. Independent1 April 2, 2016

          Only in the mind of a clueless right-winger like you. Even suggesting that Obama is responsible for our debt increases is blatant stupidity. How can you suggest such a thing when first of all, it’s been a GOP controlled House that has set the budget for the past 5 plus years, and Obama has the smallest budget increase percentages of any president since Eisenhower at under 2%/yr when Reagan averaged over 7%/yr increases, Bush 1 averaged over 5%/yr increases and Bush 2 averaged over 8%/yr increases???

          Come on, explain how the president who has presided over the deepest and furthest reductions in deficit spending since the Great Depression can be blamed for increasing our debt!! Come on!! I want to hear your convoluted logic!!!

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          1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            Come on , you can’t be this insert word ? They gave Obama everything he asked for and more. Then they gave him every debt limit increase as well . He wanted it , they gave it to him , he signed it. Certainly you can’t possibly be this uninformed . In your mind everything is Bush’s fault including the last 7 years of Obama . Too funny. . This is why I don’t usually even respond to you. That and the fact you are immature ignorant and intolerant. .

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          2. Independent1 April 2, 2016

            And I wasn’t disappointed by your totally convoluted response: “They gave Obama everything he asked for and more.” Is that supposed to be a joke?? Emperor Mitch used the fake filibuster over 400 times to prevent Obama from getting anything at all – and you’re clueless enough to make that totally juvenile, idiotic statement!!!!!

            And you clearly know nothing about how the government budgeting process works; presidents don’t ask for debt limit increases – they’re part of the House’s normal budgeting process. The only thing Obama has ever asked is that the GOP idiots in the House not shut down the government when they do their supposed job of raising the debt limit so our government can pay THE BILLS THAT THE GOP CONGRESS HAS CREATED THEMSELVES!!

            And by the way, how many debt limit increases have there been under Obama?? 3 maybe 4?? How does that compare to the 19 under Reagan and 18 under Bush 2????

            And why am I not surprised that a right-wing nutcase like you would refuse to accept that our current debt situation is Bush’s and the GOP’s fault??? When are you going to stop being a hypocrite and claiming you care about deficit spending?? Clearly Republican politicians don’t: otherwise they wouldn’t keep refusing to pass legislation that would prevent thousands of American companies from shielding profits overseas so they can get away with paying zero in taxes!! And some billionaires and millionaires too!!! That’s just one more reason that the GOP is responsible for our ongoing debt increases.

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          3. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            I guess you don’t know how Government works or maybe you missed why the GOP base is going to the two outsuders

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          4. Phil Christensen April 3, 2016

            Bikejedi, to understand 2-Dependent, start from the false premise that the two major factions of Big Government are actually at odds. He actually buys into the myth that the D’s are working to make his life better. He is simply a manifestation of 60 years of ‘if we can just get the right guy in office.’ Laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic. As with all human beings, he is worthy of our compassion.

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          5. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            So true so true

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          6. dpaano April 4, 2016

            They can’t explain it because they don’t know how….they only listen to what they’re told!

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        2. Otto T. Goat April 3, 2016

          He’s completely out of touch with reality.

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          1. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            Yep and the funny thing is he doesn’t know it

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    2. johninPCFL April 2, 2016

      “proudly added $9T to the national debt”: sorry, Congress controls spending and except for four years, the GOP has owned the spending process in Congress since 1996 House election.

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      1. Independent1 April 2, 2016

        And Emperor Mitch made sure even during those years when the Dems owned the spending process (via his constant use of the fake filibuster) that the Dems weren’t able to budget for a lot of what they had hoped to do.

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      2. Phil Christensen April 3, 2016

        By your own words, the other side had four years to fix it. Fail.

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    3. dpaano April 4, 2016

      You do realize, Phil, that part of that $9 billion was monies that GWB failed to add to the budget for his unwarranted war and his pharmacy plan, don’t you? This president has spent very little himself if you deduct the money carried over from GWB’s administration. How quickly people forget that……that war and his prescription program had to be paid sometime, and President Obama got stuck with it!

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      1. Phil Christensen April 5, 2016

        Nine Trillion. With a “T.” Feel free to use the edit function. Seriously D, are we still blaming Bush after 7+ years? What occurred in the moment that just passed affects the moment we’re in right now and the moment right in front of us. We can take this back to Wilson if you want, but we’re dealing with the here and now.
        To use your own phrasing – you do realize that the system is unsustainable, don’t you?

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        1. dpaano April 6, 2016

          Sorry, my bad….I did mean “trillion.” Thanks for correcting me on that. Unfortunately, most of the troll posters on this site refuse to see the light and realize that these problems didn’t start with our current President and his administration…..they refuse to put the blame where it belongs! They also refuse to understand that this current administration has done wonders for our economy even with all the problems they have with the GOP-led Senate and House. Yes, it WAS Bush who caused a goodly portion of the problems we’re having now…..him, along with Reagan.

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          1. Phil Christensen April 6, 2016

            OK D, we’ll just agree to disagree on the cause. You didn’t make this personal, so I have to respect you for that. Two questions, then. Do we agree that the national debt has reached a level where the system is in danger of collapsing of its own weight? And if so, is there a solution which will not cause a huge amount of pain?

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          2. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Yes, the national debt is high, but it’s no higher percentage-wise than at other times. The debt goes up each and every year based on inflation, etc. I don’t think it’s at the point where it’s “collapsing under its own weight” as you put it. As for a solution, unfortunately, I’m not an economist, but I know that our president has done well in cutting the deficit by two-thirds percent, which is admirable. Not sure how you would cut the debt……bills are generated and have to be paid. And, it’s not the president that spends this money…..the Congress holds the purse strings. They are the ones that approve the budget…..

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          3. Phil Christensen April 7, 2016

            National debt hovered around 60% of GDP for the 20 years between 1990 and 2010, then in the last 5 years rose to a hair over 100%. CNN and the Washington Post published some informative articles with respect to this. I am going to presume that their source materials come from the congressional budget office, the OMB, and Bureau of Labor Statistics. I won’t try to force feed you links – you’re smart enough to evaluate the credibility.
            What is further troubling is that 2015 gave us less than 1% inflation. Good news at the gas pump, but not so good news if the goal is to devalue the currency in order to make the debt just a little more manageable.
            So yes, unless something is done, we are headed for collapse. I do not fault the current administration for this, nor do I blame any administration for the last 100 years. This nation underwent a radical change in its paradigm during TR (adventurism) and Wilson (Central Bank, Income Tax). Frog in the pot – gradually all incentives for fiscal discipline went out the window.
            Bills are generated and have to be paid – yes, but why? Because not a single member of congress has the onions to propose what needs to be done. And why is that? Because then we’ll vote him/her out because we want our crack.
            No single snowflake thinks its responsible for the blizzard. There are a small number of solutions, and all of them painful.

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  3. Buford2k11 April 2, 2016

    Hmm…It seems the Border Patrol and the DEA have teamed up to be the most corrupt federal agencies that we have…Power corrupts, money really corrupts…

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    1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

      Is that because they support Trump or because they want to actually do their mission for this Country . Liberal plays race card in 3 2 1

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      1. Buford2k11 April 2, 2016

        No…It has very little to do with trump…it has everything to do with corruption, and bribery…

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        1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

          Geez so the fact they want to do their mission for the people and keep this Nation secure has nothing to do with their endorsement ? Got it .

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          1. Buford2k11 April 2, 2016

            you have it all wrong…they MUST remain apolitical…the Union is one of those entities that can be and have been corrupted for political gains…but the members have to control that…I have been a union member and I will support the unions when they are not corrupt nor when they support an obvious bigot…

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          2. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            The Public Unions traditionally support the Democrats and donate to them almost exclusively. It is a collusionist and inscestous relationship . I don’t know what I’m the world you are talking about as to your claim they are suddenly corrupt but I’m guessing you feel that way because they are backing someone who will put American interests first and who respects their mission . Everyone I know and speak to in law enforcement is voting GOP and they usually don’t. That should tell you something. Lastly I’m not a Trump guy but I wouldnt describe him as a bigot for wanting to protect this Nation.

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          3. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Gee, how many people have you talked to in law enforcement, do you have an exact number? Do you travel all over this country talking to them? The ones I talk to don’t feel the same way you do, but then again, I only have access to a few of them, so I can’t actually BEGIN to say what they believe and disbelieve!

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          4. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            I’m Ex Law Enforcement and I am in several Blue Forums. The Police in America know the Dems are trying to divide America on the issue of race and they know they are being used as the whipping boy and scapegoat in that agenda. They have not gotten the backing of their Dem mayors , the DOJ , the Whitehouse , or Liberal media. . They have seen people like Rahm scapegoat his whole Police Dept and infer that are all racist killers to spin deflect and excuse the fact he covered up the murder of a black kid here so he could get re-elected. Oh trust me they are pissed .

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          5. dpaano April 5, 2016

            You can thank the states with the Republican governors for the lack of proper policing…..they seem to have the worse problems than those with liberal governors.

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          6. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            So what happens in the Democrat Party Ghettos in Democrat city’s is on a Governor .. too funny

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      2. charleo1 April 2, 2016

        Well, the BP union supports Trump. Which we all know what you Wingers usually think of unions. This time however, they are suddenly a wellspring of wisdom? I think the motivation is most likely an expectation of a huge new benefit package, plus thousands of new members.

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        1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

          They have a Union but they are charged with missions of law enforcement and National Security . I don’t think many people in those fields will be voting Democrat for a long time if you know what I mean . That’s a shame because a lot of Cops grew up Democrat and are Public Union members. Seems they feel like the Dems are using them as scapegoats in their agenda to divide the Nation in the issue of race. I think you will see 99% of them bolt the Party this time. I base that I n Blue forums in on .

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          1. charleo1 April 2, 2016

            Truth be told, Lincoln divided the Nation on the issues of race, and the immorality of exploitation. Exactly for many of the same good reasons they are accusing Obama of doing the same thing today. Face it, the Right is inhabited, and animated by racism, and demagogueries like scapegoating. It turns them on. Gives them something on which to focus their anger. It’s the politics of expedience.

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          2. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            Sure it’s all those evil Conservatives …hmmm then why is it that it’s Obama and the Dems doing all the dividing .

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          3. charleo1 April 3, 2016

            Division has occurred yes. First, because the Democratic Party refuses to allow itself, or it’s platform to be held hostage to threats of harming the country, in lieu of Republican efforts to compromise, and reach consensus. And because Republican Leaders have been attempting to govern in bad faith. Meeting in secret the night of Obama’s inauguration, and conspiring to refuse to allow the Party the majority of the country choose, to lead. Bad faith, wrong policies, embracing the 1%, at the expense of the majority. Radicalized the base via gerrymander, and gave influence over Party policies to extremists conspiracy groups like the John Birch Society, and radical would be social engineers such as The Family Research Council, In short, the Republican Party decided the best [political] strategy would be to demagogue the country’s structural problems within the economy such as wealth inequality, stagnant wages, loss of jobs to outsourcing, and illegal immigration. Than work in good faith with the President. and the opposition to address, and mitigate them. And in the process, and for all the worst reason, have rendered themselves weak, and dysfunctional, and ripe for the takeover. Unwilling to compromise and reach consensus even among themselves. Leaving the opposition unable to agree if they wanted with those who have failed to produced agreed positions at all, except to oppose that which the Democrats, or the President advocates. Are we to agree then with the divided for the sake of unity? That makes no sense.

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          4. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            First off that wasn’t the type of dividing I was talking about but since you brought it up no one has obstructed Obama’s agenda . He has been allowed to spend more money on his nonsense than any President ever. .His first two years the GOP was powerless . From the time the GOP took the house in 2010 to the time they took the Senate in 2014 the GOP led house sent 353 bills to the Dem. 98% of those bills had wide bipartisan support and 55 of them were forwarded by house Dems . You want to know how many Harry Reid allowed a vote on in his Dem controlled Senate ? None of them …Then he and Obama had the nerve to call the GOP obstructionist . So please miss me with that B.S. The economic stuff you mention ( income disparity etc ) have all been exasperated by Obama and Dem economic policy. Average yearly incomes are down almost $5000 and the income gap has grown at its fastest rate ever . If anyone has helped and embraced the 1% at the expense of the middle class it’s Obama and the Dems. At the same time the part time exemption had created a workforce where we have the greatest number of Americans relegated to part time employment in our history that have used policies like the QE at the Fed to help the wealthy enrich their portfolios . Loss of jobs maybe you can trace that to the highest corporate tax rates in the World as well as Dem trade policies like NAFTA and you can’t blame Republicans for that ..

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          5. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Duh….do you not realize that the President only spends what the Congress approves? He has NO ability to just willy nilly spend money unless it’s approved by the Congress…..they hold the purse strings AND the checkbook. Apparently, you are not aware of that, are you? As for the economics and the income inequality….we can all thank Reagan and GWB for those problems….along with their “trickle down” BS! President Obama has strengthened our economy in his tenure, and has tried to work on income equality to the detriment of the GOP-led Congress. And, who is it who always seems to want to lower taxes on the 1%….I don’t seem too many Democrats who are asking for that! Don’t you think these people have enough money already….don’t you think that some of the 99% should have their taxes lowered a little rather than give more money to the upper crust? Where are your brains……well, I know where they are, so I won’t go there!

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          6. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            You made my point. They have given him everything he has ever asked for and more. So how can anyone call them obstructionist. Obama has spent your grand kids into poverty in debt. You enjoy explaining that to them and please don’t blame Bush or call people racist K

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          7. bobnstuff April 5, 2016

            I believe you are mistaken in you statement and I will give you two examples of many. The Immigration bill and the money he asked for to deal with the children coming across our borders. There are lots more. The republicans even voted against their own bills if they believe Obama supported them. Once again it’s the congress that spends the money, not the President. All spending bills start in the House. Had Bush not cut taxes and kept spending a chuck of the debt wouldn’t be there and had the republicans under Obama not kept spending with out creating funding for their spending we would have no problem. So who spent our grand kids into poverty? Just for the record the debt is mostly on paper and a lot is owed to ourselves. If the republicans get the White House you will hear little about it as long as they are in power, it only when the Democrats are in power does debt and illegal immigration become a problem.

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          8. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            Don’t you think we should be worried about homeless citizens who signed a blank check to this Nation before we worry about the people who don’t respect our Country out Laws our Culture and our Society by illegally breaking into our Country?????

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          9. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            How is taking aid from one group going to help another? We have cut back social services to pay for war and corporate hand outs. Tell me about the Republican bill for reform of the VA. Have you ever checked to see why there are homeless Vets? Non of the republicans running for president have a clue about homelessness. Those food stamps that have been cut were going to Vets and service men’s families. The PX is one of the largest places were food stamps are used but it’s OK to cut back on them because other might just not go hungry. Do you ever fact check anything? Spend a day reading about welfare and the SNAP program. Start by going to Google and typing in Welfare myths.

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          10. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Yeah, Bob, the problem is that even our active duty soldiers suffer, but it seems okay when the GOP wants to send them off to fight a war that was started for no good reason to begin with! I’d be interested in seeing what the Middle East would be like today if GWB hadn’t gone in and caused all the chaos that he did…..sure, there might be some problems, but I don’t think you’d see the amount of problems going on that we see today! AND, we wouldn’t have all these homeless, mentally-ill veterans living on the streets, suffering from PTSD and other war-inquired injuries and illnesses!

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          11. bikejedi April 6, 2016

            The only reason benefits have been cut is because they had to.  There are double the number of people in poverty and using those benefits and Obama cut funding . Welcome to Socialism 101

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          12. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            Socialism 101 a class you didn’t take since your knowledge of socialism is very limited. You don’t think that having the economy go off the cliff had anything to do with it.

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          13. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            It seems I know more about it then you n ow doesn’t it. The economy went off the cliff in 2007 we are now I’m 2016 and you Obama and the Dems say he fixed the economy but the lie detector proves that was a lie …He has doubled poverty in that time …I feel like Maury right now
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          14. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            Unemployment is down, the stock market is up, the GNP is rising and home prices are recovering in most places. People getting aid from the government is fulling. We have the strongest economy in the world. He must be destroying us, just like he came for my gun and he took over Texas last summer. Why don’t you just admit that he can’t be a good president because he’s black. It’s the only reason I can think of for your not supporting the things he has done.

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          15. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            There’s the race card . Knew you would play it . Hmmmm I date a black girl Unemployment is only down because 94 million Americans have given up any hope of employment. Also with all your employers transitioning their work force from full time to part time they need more part timers to do the same labor man hours. People getting aid is increasing . It’s not only food stamps remember
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          16. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            It has to be race because he did everything the way a republican would have. There are more jobs in the country today then ever before. Check you facts. The percent on public welfare today is under 43% it was 47% in 2012. You really need to do your home work. You don’t check anything do you. You just go with the overlords line. Right now there is a record number of job openings in the US. The people without jobs either can’t work, students and over 65 or don’t want to work. Ask any HR person what kind of people are showing up and how many can’t pass a drug or back ground check. The percentage of part time to full time is the same as it has been for a very long time. Go check the numbers instead of listening to you overlords.

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          17. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            The lie detector test proves that was a lie . The only reason you can begin to claim more Americans working is because of the overall increase in population. With 94 million Americans having given up and the Labor participation rate at 38 years lows no one can say this is a good economy . My black girlfriend works in HR for Miller Coors . I ending this conversation because I don’t want to waste any more time conversing with someone who doesn’t debate on merit but has now resorted to the race card twice . Why dont you just say I have nothing so I will infer you are a racist.? Have a great day .
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          18. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            When I went to retire last spring I stayed for three month longer then I wanted because 50% of the people who applied couldn’t pass the drug test. There are more help wanted ads then at any point in history and one of the reason the people are out of the work force is because like me they can. People can stay home and raise their children and the over 65 set can retire. I’m a baby boomer as are my brothers and my sister. We all have retired in the last three years because we finally can thanks to the return of the stock market and the ACA. You say it’s not because Obama is black that you don’t like him then tell me what he is doing different then the presidents before him. He has privatized nothing, he has supported big business he has expanded energy including Gas and Oil. If you didn’t know he was a democrat you would swear he was a old school republican. He was elected twice and has overseen one of the longest growth periods in history. with out any help from the republicans. If your girl friend works in HR ask her how many interviews it take to hire just one person. Last year the company I work for fell short of hiring goal be 35% and it looks worse this year. You check few if any facts and have a hate for the president that is not founded in reality.

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          19. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            As I said I ended this conversation . That is the 3rd time you played the race card . I understand

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          20. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            I’m sorry but I am trying to understand why you hate the President as much as you do. I can see no reason for your hate based on facts or actions on his part. His actions are not any different then other presidents and if anything he has played by the rules more then most. You explain just why you hate him so much. I have spent a lot of time reading history and am old enough to remember eleven presidents, I was to little to remember Truman. I’m a old school republican and have a very strong business back ground. I’m not happy with my choices this time but unless the republicans come to their senses I’m stuck with another democrat. I’m not impressed with your understanding of facts. If you are unhappy with the direction the country is going blame congress, they are the ones not doing their job.

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          21. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Interestingly enough, these so-called “illegal” immigrants are the hardest working people in this country. If the homeless took these same jobs, they wouldn’t last a day!!! And, most of our homeless are homeless because they are mentally ill. This country needs to do MORE for the mentally ill, and that, my friend, would go a LONG way to help with the homeless population. Also, to remind you, the wonderful GOP-led Congress voted down several bills that would have helped the homeless veterans, so now you want to blame hard-working immigrants? Do you realize that if we throw these hard-working people out of our country, our produce would NOT get picked, your yard wouldn’t get mowed, the 1%’s children would not have nannies, and I could go on and on? And, if the produce doesn’t get picked…..do you not understand that the prices at the grocery stores will go sky high? We already import more of our fruits and vegetables from South America than ever before because farmers are having problems finding people to pick the crops. Additionally, although these “immigrants” are illegal, they pay taxes whenever they purchase anything; many of them have Social Security monies taken out of their paychecks…..a benefit they will NEVER get to realize. There’s a payoff for everything, remember that.

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          22. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            So illegals are the hardest working ? Tell that to two friends I have who own their own business and work 80 hr Weeks and 7 days a week. One of whom is 74 . There is no doubt that some illegals are hard workers while others are in freebies What does how hard they work have to do with anything ? By the way Georgia proved Americans would take those jobs when they changed their work rules . Illinois Dems gave our residents the highest income tax hike for a State in American History a few years ago and then cut the mental health budget to dead last in the US
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          23. dpaano April 7, 2016

            You know, this is the last time I’m going to respond to ANY of your replies because you have made up your mind that you are right, and no matter how much proof and information you’re given, you will NOT change your mind…..typical GOP with a closed mind and a big mouth. As for your comment above, congratulations on having friends…..I’ve seen very few millennials who are willing to bend over and pick fruit, clean a house, take care of a baby, or mow someone’s lawn. They would expect to b e paid more money to do so, which, as I keep mentioning to you, would raise prices significantly!!! Enough said…..the end!!!

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          24. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            You have offered no proof to back up any of your talking points . I in the other hand have up and down this thread . Delusion much ? Oh Checkmate

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          25. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            And please by all that is Holy don’t blame Bush for Obama’s spending especially after almost 8 years of this nonsense .

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          26. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            Since Obama has no control over the budget and the ones he has sent to congress are DOA it seams that the blame for spending must rest on the congress and since by law all spending bills must start in the house and be voted on by the house it’s kind of hard to blame the President for spending but I.m sure you will because you don’t like him. He didn’t start the wars and he didn’t crash Wall St. We have cut back spending over the lass seven years and not cut taxes so unlike republicans the budget is becoming more balanced. Go read some history of the spending under the different presidents, in fact go look at the history of the presidents and see just how our present one stack up on most things. Look at things like EO’s and Veto’s. as well as the number of members of the government that ended up in court.

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          27. dpaano April 6, 2016

            That’s beyond bikejedi’s ability….as I’ve said before, he’s brainwashed to believe ONLY what the GOP tells him, and most of that are lies and scare tactics!!

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          28. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            He’s fun to poke a stick at. He never admits that he could be wrong and will go down with the ship of fools.

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          29. dpaano April 6, 2016

            I know, I keep hoping that SOMEDAY something we tell him will resonate in his thick skull and he’ll finally see the light…..I know, it’s a fantasy of mine, but I’m entitled to a few fantasies once in a while!!!

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          30. bikejedi April 6, 2016

            His budgets were DOA and even his own Party dissed them because they were ridiculous and were done in crayon . I’m the other hand both his Congress and the GOP Congress have given him everything he has asked for and more. . So it lies on his desk.
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          31. dpaano April 6, 2016

            It’s interesting that the Senate has totally REFUSED to even review the current budget that President Obama has sent to them….it doesn’t matter if it’s done in crayon….their job is to review it!!! This is what we pay them for! They haven’t done their jobs in all the years that they’ve had control of the Senate…..if this was a regular job, they would’ve been fired!!!

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          32. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            They just gave him more than he asked for in the omnibus

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          33. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            Didn’t he ask for an Immigration bill? Didn’t the republicans block everything he tried to do? How about his SCOUS person that he is asking for? I think you must live in some other country.

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          34. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Right after they won the Senate in the 2014 midterms he didn’t even give them a chance to send a bill. He demagogued them while circumventing them with his unconstitutional EO

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          35. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            Those darn unconstitutional EO’s. Every president since Washington has used them but for Obama they are unconstitutional. Big mean Obama has stopped the congress from passing laws. Do you know how stupid you sound?

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          36. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            SCOTUS spanked obama,3 times last summer with even the Liberal justices telling him he had to reign his EOs in . They will spank him soundly on the immigration one because that thing is totally unconstitutional and even liberal legal analysts agree on that. Hellhow many times did our esteemed Constitutional paid lecturer tell us he couldn’t do it by EO because it would br unconstitutional ? Take it up with the Community Organizer .. Powered by Cricket Wireless.
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          37. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            You do know that just about every president has been spanked as you put it by the SCOUS and most many more times then Obama. GW was spanked eight time in his last year in office. Have you ever read the history of the Executive Order? Nothing Obama has done will go down in history as major orders. Both Bush and St. Reagan used them for immigration. My favorite one was Thomas Jefferson and the Louisiana Purchase.

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          38. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Reagan used it to correct an oversight in the bill congress passed and both sides agreed on it.

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          39. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            Wrong. The bill hadn’t been passed yet.

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          40. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Really ????     http://www.factcheck.org/2014/11/obamas-actions-same-as-past-presidents/

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          41. bobnstuff April 7, 2016

            http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_26957246/reagan-bush-acted-alone-immigration
            Reagan didn’t get what he wanted so he fixed it so did Bush.Congress did pass the law after he did his own thing.

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          42. bikejedi April 7, 2016

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          43. dpaano April 6, 2016

            And who else would you blame? Who failed to pay for his idiotic war? Who failed to pay for his drug program? Who lowered taxes during a year when we were at war (which NEVER happens)? Maybe you need to get that tin hat off your head and start looking at where our economic problems started and put the blame where it REALLY belongs!!!

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          44. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Unfortunately, all this is directed at the wrong party….they need to look inward to themselves for the problems that were failed to be fixed during President Obama’s tenure. It was their constant blockages that have caused many of the problems we still have today!

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          45. charleo1 April 4, 2016

            And their motivation for that was a mix of shameful fear, and personal race based jealousy. First that Obama would be seen as successful, and get the credit. And then be considered by historic standards, a great president for these accomplishments, which he will He will in spite of the Right’s spending it’s every waking hour, and using every lever of power at their disposal to prevent it. The hard facts, and undeniable reality is, after two hard fought terms thru some of the toughest times this country has faced in 80 years. At least since the beginning of the Second World War, President Obama has prevailed, and the country itself, has prospered.

            And ironically, perhaps in a sense of great poetic justice, in their attempts to disparage, and bring down this good man, this able President, they’ve sown the seeds of their own bringing down instead. For little did they realize, blinded by their ideology, and generations of racial animosity, they were dealing with a ver special person in Barack Obama. A champion, is the way many see Barack Obama. And not just to the African Americans, but to so many other minorities as well. Latinos, Asians, Muslims, and millions of other mainstream people of good will, who have been pulling for this President against the injustices, and unfairness they’ve seen committed against him, they del with these same injustices committed against them in their own everyday lives. And it doesn’t require a degree in Sociology, or political science to decipher where it’s coming from. Which Party is spreading the hate, and division. And their phony claims to the contrary are ridiculous.

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          46. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Again, you keep dreaming your fantasies, okay?

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          47. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            I’m Ex Law Enforcement. If you are privy to any Blue forum , which I doubt you would be , you would know what I say I accurate.
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          48. dpaano April 5, 2016

            I have a Bachelor’s Degree in Criminology and I’ve worked for several police departments (Los Angeles and Long Beach), so I think I DO know how they think. Many of my friends in uniform are appalled at Trump and his comments about immigrants…..not all….but a vast majority.

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          49. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            No effing way . NO way no how . They are appalled at the Democrats. I am on 4 Blue forums and every cop every trooper FBIetc are all saying the same things to a man. I live in the Liberal paradise of Chicago and every single Cop is pissed at Rahm Obama Holder Lynch the whole lot of them. Powered by Cricket Wireless.

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  4. yabbed April 2, 2016

    More Mexicans are leaving the USA than coming in. The days when illegals ran across the border into the San Diego freeway are long over. Our borders are more secure than they ever have been. It’s nonsensical to hear Trump talk about building a magical wall.

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    1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

      Of course that just a talking point without fact but it sounds good right

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      1. FireBaron April 2, 2016

        The net Mexican illegal immigration is not negative numbers. After almost 8 years of no deportations during the previous administration, President Obama has deported more illegal Mexican aliens each year of his presidency than the Shrub did in all 8 years. Also, the Shrub took more “vacation” in his first two years than Obama has since January 20, 2009!

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        1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

          The only problem is that Obama and the Dems welcome the ones the deport in as fast as they deport them . They then give them free housing food phones etc in their Sanctuary cities . Ever live near Sanctuary housing ? I have . To further screw the pooch Obama and the Dems have welcomed illegals from all over Central America under a loop hole in imiigration law . In fact they advertized that loop hole all over Central America to encourage that illegal behavior . #stubbornfacts

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          1. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

            The laws on dealing with the illegals from Central America make it very hard to send them back. Go look at the rules the government has to deal with and the manpower to do the job and then tell me that Obama is at fault for the problem. Why did the congress not pass a new immigration law? Why has the funds that the President asked congress for to secure the borders not voted for. The republicans don’t want to close the borders.

            What I can’t understand is why a union that represents government employees would have anything to do with a party that attacks unions and wants to get rid of unions for public employees. Talk about voting against their own interests.

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          2. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            I know all about the loop hole. Central America did not until the Obama admin made it common knowledge throughout Central America causing a mass exodus of illegal aliens to pour through our border. One should ask why would they do that and the answer is obvious. And let’s not be so naive as to not admit Obama would’ve Veto’d any bill changing that loop hole . Obama hasn’t asked for money for border security as much as he has asked for money for these new Illegals. You know so we can give them housing food healthcare phones . Meanwhile how many Veterans are homeless ??? Powered by Cricket Wireless.

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          3. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

            He asked for congress to fix those very loop holes and they did nothing. It wasn’t Obama that passed the word but the smugglers that put out the word. Obama did ask for money and the house passed a bill to pay for Texas National Guard troops but nothing to deal with the problem and then went home on vacation. Obama did the best he could and moved border guards from the north down south. Most Federal Programs are closed to illegals. Most welfare programs are run by the states so tell me again how Obama has been giving things to illegals. We do end up paying to keep them till their deportation hearings though and with to few judges it take 60 weeks on the average for those to happen.If the Republicans don’t like it they can change the law so people can be turned around at the borders and set home. The Republicans don’t want the problem fixed. By the way do you have a clue why there are homeless Veterans? Tell me about the great bill in congress to help the Veterans that the Republicans have passed.

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          4. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            Obama and the Dems let the loop hole be known . They also ran ads on Mexican TV or radio I can’t remember which detailing how to apply for benefits here . The funding for the Sanctuary stuff was just increased in the latest omnibus but a lot of it comes out of Dem State budgets as well . You know as well as I if either Cruz or Trump wins there will be new policies and laws and they won’t threaten to veto them they will sign them . It is one of the reasons the GOP might win because immigration is listed as a top concern in polls of Americans . Now the Dems look at illegals as a means to build a permanent voting majority and they are scared if the GOP wins they will slow that in favor of National Security. I don’t think anyone wants to be non compassionate to the plight of others but you either have laws and borders or you don’t have a country . Have you seen Mexico immigration laws ?

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          5. bobnstuff April 3, 2016

            Fact check much? I do
            http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/07/unaccompanied-child-migrants-us-government-tv-ad

            So here are the ads run by our government.
            Just for the record who passes laws in the US? , who controls both houses of congress right now? What new laws dealing with immigration are in the works right now? Just how any times has Obama vetoed laws?

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          6. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            Why would be have had to veto anything ??? Seriously do you think the GOP is going to bother sending bills to Obama he has said he would veto ????I mean they should and then they should demagogue the hell out of him but they suck at that stuff so that don’t.
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          7. dpaano April 4, 2016

            You can’t remember which? Maybe because it never happened! As for the Sanctuary BS that you’re spouting…that’s another fallacy that you’ve been told and is definitely not true. As for new policies and laws coming from either Cruz or Trump…..don’t count on it. The Senate and the House may lose their GOP majority, and then we’ll see how much gets passed. Additionally, much of what both of them are saying they are going to do is NOT possible and, in some cases, totally unconstitutional. They’d need a constitutional amendment to get some of their BS passed, and that won’t happen!

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          8. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            Maybe they will do it Obama stlye and ignore the Constitution and our form of Government .. lol .boy did you just step in it .. lol

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          9. bobnstuff April 5, 2016

            If Obama has ignored the constitution as much as you say why has he not been shot down by the SCOUS more. His use of the EO has been very careful and he may push things a little but never break them. If you believe so much in the constitution then you must support the congress holding hearings on the new justice. It’s their job as stated in the constitution. Also I guess you are for voting rights and against anything that could stand in the way of people voting.

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          10. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            They spanked him 3 separate times last year . What more do you want.? Even the Liberal justices admonished him in their opinions. .

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          11. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            I am for voting rights FOR CITIZENS not for illegal aliens. Hence California should be taken out of the voting since their motor votes law is designed specifically to allownom citizen illegal aliens to alter our election . As for a hearing on a SCOTUS nomination there is nothing in the constitution that says they have to hold hearings or a vote and the Dems did the same thing .

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          12. dpaano April 6, 2016

            California is NOT giving illegals the option to vote. They can get driver’s licenses (which means they also have to have car insurance, which helps whenever they are in a serious accident), but they do NOT get the option to vote. I know because I sign people up to vote at various functions, and we’ve been asked before if they could vote…..it’s a resounding NO! Even in California, they are NOT able to vote, but they ARE able to get a driver’s license. As for the SCOTUS…you may want to read Section 2 of Article II of the Constitution, which CLEARLY states “He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate…….to nominate and, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint…….judges of the Supreme Court….” It doesn’t say ANYTHING about his not being able to accomplish this during the last year of his term in office and the fact that McConnell is dragging is feet is just another show of how the Senate refuses to do their jobs….the jobs that WE, as taxpayers PAY THEM TO DO!!! As for what the Democrats did before, I could care less…..I care about what they are doing NOW!

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          13. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            They enacted a motor voter law with no way to check . Here in the Liberal bastion of crime corruption high taxes etc etc of the people’s republic of Chicago you don’t even have to be registered to vote. You just show up at a polling place and sign up on the spot. No one asks for an ID or if you are a citizen. Tell me how that’s going to work ?lol
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          14. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Maybe I should quote Obama Reid and Biden on this for their opinion right . Once again you stepped in it

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          15. dpaano April 6, 2016

            I stepped in nothing….President Obama has not done ANYTHING against the Constitution. But, Trump, for instance, thinks he can just willy nilly go in and change it to his liking once he steps foot in the oval office (which isn’t going to happen unless he’s invited by the next president). Do you think advocating torture and waterboarding is constitutional? Do you think that equal rights for LGBT is unconstitutional? If so, maybe you need to go back and re-read it in full! You’re the one that has stepped in it.

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          16. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            SCOTUS disagrees with you and Obama .

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          17. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Thanks, bobnstuff…..you’re RIGHT ON!!!

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          18. dpaano April 4, 2016

            What free housing, what free phones (which is a fallacy that you can check on factcheck.com)? Your so-called facts are a bunch of BS!

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          19. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            What fantasy land do you live in because I lived 2 blocks from Sanctuary housing until I moved. And for those who blindly support Sanctuary housing ( in exchange for future votes on the backs of Tax Payers ) I implore you to go live next to it just for two weeks and then come and have a cup of coffee and let me know if you want to move back to your exclusively rich white liberal suburb ? Not only do they get free housing they apply for and get EBT and then get free Obama phones. In Chicago they get free daycare ( Christopher house ) and free English courses ( no one attends those ) free computer courses , and job training . Of course you probably have never been close enough to see that .

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          20. bobnstuff April 5, 2016

            You must hate it when some one gets something for free. I guess you aren’t a big fan of the oil industry and all the free money they get. Oh and if you check you facts if they are not here legally they get next to nothing from the feds and your beef is with the state government. Most welfare programs are run by the state and local government and if you check the funding for a number of the programs they are privately funded. The Obama phone wasn’t created under Obama but under Bush so it should be called the Bush phone.
            http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/
            Many of the programs you are complaining about are from Bush and even Clinton and haven’t changed in years. If anything they have been tighten up under Obama just like food stamps being cut.

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          21. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            Funding has gone down for Food Stamps while usage has doubled . Obama and the Dems have effectively doubled the number of people in poverty in six years. We have gone from 27 million Americans in Food Stamps when he took office and we now hover around 49 million .

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          22. bobnstuff April 5, 2016

            Don’t blame the Dems on the economic down turn. The rules for getting food stamps are set by the state and haven’t changed except it’s getting harder to get them. 49 million is a old number it’s down to 43 and dropping. By the end of the year it should be in the mid 30’s. Most people on food stamps are children and the working poor. Obama doesn’t run the program. The republican run states have a larger number of people getting ad then the states run by democrats so your statement doesn’t hold up.

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          23. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            That’s a whole lot of excuse making but the facts say they have doubled poverty. Those people now fall below the poverty line . Great economy we have here but I guess to you …just blame Bush right …lol

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          24. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            Tell me what actions did Obama or the Democrats do to create the fall of Wall St.? What have the Republicans done to fix the economy? It look like from were I’m standing that everything you are blaming Obama for can be linked to actions of the Congress and it’s the republicans that are saying no to everything.

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          25. bikejedi April 6, 2016

            What fall of Wall.St are you referring to

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          26. bobnstuff April 6, 2016

            You know when my 40K to a dive and it looked like I was going to have to work till I was 90. It’s a good thing we elected a president that didn’t decide we could cut the budget as a way out. It was in all the papers.

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          27. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Yes it’s a real good thing Bush got TARP passed .

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          28. dpaano April 6, 2016

            No excuses….just the basic truth. But, again, talking to a brick wall is not very proactive and does nothing!

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        2. dpaano April 4, 2016

          Yeah, I read somewhere that he took almost a whole year of vacation in this first 4 years of his administration!!! Pretty ridiculous, but makes sense. But, the GOP keep harping if President Obama plays a game of golf every once in a while or takes a vacation to Hawaii……he doesn’t take any more vacation than most of us do, and he needs it more!

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      2. charleo1 April 2, 2016

        Actually the notion of building a wall, and making Mexico pay for it, is the perfect example of a talking point that sound about right to idiots. It solves everything they know about immigration, which is next to nothing. Plus, it’s a solution guaranteed to cost them nothing. A better lie could not have been made up to suit the GOP base, without promising to allow Mexicans to be shot on sight, and make Mexico pay for the ammo.

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        1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

          The cost of a Wall has been estimated at 8 to 16 billion I believe. You can get a lot of that from Mexico and if they disagree just take it out of the foreign aid we give them and bill their Government for incarceration and depotation costs . Now I’m not a Trump guy but this is purely common sense from a National Security stand point so I’m sure Democrats wont like it just in that alone .

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          1. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

            I will guess you don’t know how much aid Mexico gets or you wouldn’t make silly statements like this one. Also who do you think stop many of the central Americans from getting to our borders?

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          2. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            Bob I know it’s not enough to cover the wall but that wall would be a drop in the bucket in our budget. I really dont care if Mexico pays for it or not and I’m not a Trump guy but that border is now a threat to National Security. Anyone who cares about the security of this Nation should want it secured

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          3. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

            I have asked people on the border what they think about the wall and everyone I have talked to say it wouldn’t work and can’t be build in many places. Add in the fact that only half of our illegals come in that way. As I keep pointing out the Republicans don’t really care about the problem and never have. It’s only something to use against Obama too them. Illegal immigration is just one of many things Trump talks about but hasn’t a clue about.

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          4. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            I have relatives down there and they want it. Look it isn’t going to be perfect but you build a wall back it up with sensors drones helicopters and more border patrol . You stop the open invitation and encouragement of the Obama regime and let it be known they will be summarily deported. You don’t need a judge if they break into our Country ….immediately deportation .I’m sure that can be easily done .

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          5. bobnstuff April 3, 2016

            Just how is deporting a record number of illegals encouragement? In our country we have laws, even the government has to follow them at times. You can’t deport someone to any country other then Mexico without a hearing. This isn’t a new law. Have you ever looked at the law dealing with illegal immigration? They are a joke. If you are here illegally it’s the same level crime as speeding. If you hire an illegal you can pay a fine of $300 to a max of $1000. In Texas you can hire an illegal to work around your home legally.

            http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html

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          6. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            Obama reported a lot and then invited far more than he reported . The broadcasts on how to apply for benefits here and letting all of Central America know it was time to come because of the loophole was the encouragement . Yes I agree the laws are a joke and need to be changed .

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          7. bobnstuff April 3, 2016

            Facts In 2006 there were 23 million illegals in the US now there are 11 million. Just were do you get your information from because you seem to being mislead a lot.

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          8. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            That is so much Bullshit and you know it .

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          9. dpaano April 4, 2016

            As I keep saying….these people are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome….they will believe anything their GOP bosses tell them without taking the time to think for themselves or check facts! Brainwashing is a powerful tool used by the GOP, along with lies and scare tactics!

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          10. dpaano April 4, 2016

            And, the big problem with the hearings is that our Congress has cut back on monies that pay for the judges that preside over those hearings, so there’s a major back-up of illegals waiting for those hearings. And, while most of them are waiting, they are free to go about their business because our Congress has also cut down on facilities to house them while they wait…….

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          11. dpaano April 4, 2016

            God, are you ever uninformed and ridiculous!!! Just my opinion!

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          12. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            Yes it is just your opinion and you are always wrong . Who was it that said it is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt….. And yet you just did that

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          13. dpaano April 5, 2016

            Just following your lead…..you have to talk to people at the level that they seem to understand, so I try to speak at YOUR level, which is MUCH lower than mine!

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          14. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            A snide attempt at insult which is the typical immature ignorant and intolerant response we always get when a Liberal is not intellectually equipped to debate on merit .

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          15. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Probably more intellectually equipped to debate than you are, but then again, as I keep saying, you’re brainwashed and it’s like trying to talk to a brick wall!!! There will be NOTHING anyone can say or prove to you that will get through that wall, so why bother? Just continue to believe what the GOP tells you to believe and live in your fantasy world.

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          16. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Thanks for the laugh …you know intellect brainwashing . Too funny . Do you work as a comic ?

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          17. dpaano April 4, 2016

            It may seem like a “drop in the bucket,” but those billions of dollars spent on a useless wall that won’t work comes out of our taxpayer money….remember that?

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          18. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            Yeah just like the 150 billion Obama is giving to the largest state sponsor of Muslimn Terrorism . One has a purpose that is positive for this Nation and one is way more costly and only promotes Muslim Terrorism. Thanks for pointing that out.

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          19. dpaano April 5, 2016

            And, who would that be? If you mean Saudi Arabia, we’ve been funding them for years, so that wasn’t President Obama’s fault. And, there are probably very few ACTUAL Muslim terrorists in this country (and you can base it on the fact that we’ve had very few actual Muslim terrorists acts since 9/11. Yes, we’ve had a couple, but not near as many as Europe.

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          20. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            Are you not paying attention to the world around you. ? Obama released 150 billion to Iran in the surrender deal .

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          21. dpaano April 6, 2016

            And, the money was theirs to begin with. It was their bank accounts that were frozen…..President Obama just “unfroze” them. I think I’d rather see that than a nuclear bomb coming over the horizon! Hopefully, they will use the money wisely, and if they don’t……the sanctions go right back on according to the agreement! Do you NOT think that our government is watching Iran closely to make sure they do not violate the agreement? And….it was NOT a “surrender” deal!

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          22. bikejedi April 6, 2016

            Look you will see the Nuke. With Obama giving them to Iran it won’t be a matter of if but when .

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          23. bikejedi April 6, 2016

            Kerry has already admitted he expects Iran to use the money on Muslim Terrorism . They have already broken the deal with missile testing.

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          24. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            Also it’s easy to say we have had only a few Muslim Terrorist attacks when this administration spins and excuses for Islam by calling stuff like Ft. Hood workplace violence. What would you call Ft. Hood ? Powered by Cricket Wireless.

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          25. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Has nothing to do with my original comment…..there are still FEW terrorist attacks done by actual Muslim’s in this country compared to other countries.

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          26. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            Don’t you think that will change with the Liberal agenda to overload our Nation and it’s Social service budget with Muslims ISIS has told you and shown you they will embed with ? I mean especially since your own Govt says they can’t Vet them
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          27. bobnstuff April 5, 2016

            Are you talking about the $150 billion of their money we are giving back to them. It’s not our money and they are only getting about $40 billion and the rest is going to pay their debt. Of that $40 billion Boeing will get a chunk as will a number of other US companies. You have been mislead in just what we get out of all this, Iran was once a good trading partner and can be again, you know that jobs thing, employ Americans to make things for other countries. We get people on the ground in their country so we can see what they are doing and we might even be able to keep peace with them by talking with them. What did this all cost us, we gave them back their own money.

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          28. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            It is OUR money. We rightfully sanctioned them. Now we are paying them back for economic loss they incurred by their own hostile and provocative actions. We owe them nothing this is simply Obama capitulating and surrendering to them to say he made a deal with them . The Problem is the deal is 100 % in Iran’s favor . Obama capitulated to everything they want and after signing it they shouted death to America death to Israel
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          29. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Mexico isn’t even in the top 10 countries that the U.S. gives aid to…..the amount we give to them is a drop in the bucket! We probably give MORE money to Israel and Saudi Arabia than we give to Mexico!

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          30. bikejedi April 6, 2016

            Maybe you missed Trumps proposal to force Mexico to pay for it. It is being praised by Liberal outlets.

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    2. Dominick Vila April 3, 2016

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/11/19/mexicans-returning-home-migration-shift-united-states/76013230/
      It may not be long before the far right redirects its ire towards Asians entering the USA illegally via our Northern border, and those who come in with tourist and student visas and never leave.
      As opposed to Mexican and Central American immigrants, Asian immigrants are not interested in agricultural and hospitality work. Many of them have the education needed to get the jobs that American workers ought to pursue. The fact that little is being said about the latest shift in immigration to the USA may be based on prejudice, but it may also be a tacit admission of intellectual inadequacy by those who prefer to blame newcomers for their failure to benefit from the economic and labor opportunities that exist in the USA, and that are currently going to immigrants.

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  5. greenlantern1 April 2, 2016

    What did IKE do to Hitler’s ATLANTIC WALL?
    During WW2; Mexico was one of our allies!
    Ever read about the AZTEC EAGLES?
    Walls stop airplanes?
    Did the MAGINOT LINE stop the NAZIS?

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  6. Richard Ross April 2, 2016

    No wonder the borders are porous. Witless border agents.

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  7. paulyz April 2, 2016

    Since when is enforcing the United States’ Immigration LAWS troubling? Again another article that falsely proclaims what Trump actually said. They, & everyone else knows that Mr. Trump was talking about ILLEGAL ALIEN TRESPASSERS, not LEGAL Mexicans, or any other LEGAL Immigrant.

    The Democrat-Socialist Party & the Cheap Labor crowd do not care about ILLEGAL Aliens, they are just using you, & the Mexican & Central American governments want to get rid of you. You should fix the problems in your own governments instead of ILLEGALLY fleeing to another, selfishly bringing your many burdens to others. Americans are & have been most generous for decades, quit taking advantage of us. p.s. Trump ALSO stated that those deported can apply LEGALLY from their own Country, which was actually one of the requirements of a previous, bi-partisan, comprehensive immigration reform bill.

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    1. latebloomingrandma April 2, 2016

      Well, Trump should know about all about hiring illegals and how cheaply they work. Good for one’s bottom line and profit in one’s personal pocket.

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    2. bikejedi April 2, 2016

      You are going to make their heads explode if you keep using facts and logic

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      1. dpaano April 4, 2016

        What facts? What logic?

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    3. johninPCFL April 2, 2016

      Yep, when do we start deporting the Europeans and Asians who overstayed their visas? Given that they make up about half of the illegal immigrant total, why are they given no priority in Trump’s speeches?

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      1. paulyz April 3, 2016

        Trump wants ALL ILLEGALS stopped & deported, not just Mexicans, but Mexicans & Central Americans make up the vast majority of Illegals, plus most cross easily the Southern Border. There are a high percentage of crime committed by Illegals, & we don’t need to increase what we already have. Over the last several decades, almost all immigration was by non-Europeans, thus is NOT about Race, it’s about enforcing our Laws no matter who it is, & National Security!

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        1. johninPCFL April 3, 2016

          Once again facts are not your strong suit. Asians and Europeans make up 44% of the “illegals”. Mexicans AND ALL OTHERS make up 56%, hardly a “vast majority”, and most (meaning: more than half) “illegals” flew into an airport and overstayed a tourist or student visa. Hardly a “National Security” threat.
          Actual studies of crimes committed show that American citizens commit crimes at over twice the rate of “illegals”. They can’t afford to be arrested or they’ll be deported, so they go about their business without committing crimes.
          Finally, the murders of Americans by “illegals” makes for a nice sound bite, but the dozen over the last half-decade pales in comparison to the 50,000+ Americans murdered by their neighbors and the 100,000+ gun suicides in the same timeframe. You are over 1000 times more likely to be murdered by your neighbor than an “illegal”.

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          1. dpaano April 4, 2016

            John….it’s like talking to a brick wall! They are NOT going to believe anything you say because they’ve been brainwashed by the GOP and will not accept any valid explanation other than what they’ve been told! It’s pretty sad to see so many who fail to think for themselves based on REAL facts!

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        2. dpaano April 4, 2016

          No they don’t……there are more Asians, Pacific Islanders, and Europeans here illegally than Mexicans! Additionally, there is more crime committed by white Americans and African Americans than Mexicans (but you’ve been brainwashed to believe otherwise). I have a brother-in-law who is a border patrol agent, and he says they have never been told NOT to do their jobs, and they work very, very hard. He, by the way, is NOT going to be voting for Trump…..he thinks the wall idea is ridiculous because the wall that we have now doesn’t even work!

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          1. paulyz April 4, 2016

            Then why is the Huge Border Patrol Union endorsing Donald Trump for the 1st. time they ever endorsed anyone? Your statement t on non-Mexican, non-Hispanic Illegal Alien Trespassers is completely false.

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          2. dpaano April 5, 2016

            Sure it is…..as I said, you only believe what you want to believe or what you’ve been told by your GOP brethren…..why would you believe the truth!

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          3. paulyz April 11, 2016

            The National Memo must have recruited you in a desperate attempt to continue leftist propaganda after seeing how many real Americans are commenting with facts, exposing your Leftist Lies.

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    4. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

      Where is the Republican immigration reform bill? The House wouldn’t even look at the last one. Trump has not look at the immigration laws if he thinks you can just round them up and ship them home. It’s been the Republicans that have blocked ever move to fix the problem. I don’t think Trump understands that the President is not a dictator and must work with the congress to do most everything.

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      1. paulyz April 3, 2016

        The last Immigration reform bill was just like all the other “comprehensive” Amnesties. It only “promised” real Border security. If the Democrat-Socialist Party or Obama REALLY wanted an immigration reform bill, they had almost 8 Years to pass Mandatory E-verify or finish the 700 mile, 2-layer border fence approved in 2006! In 10 years, only 36 miles have actually been completet! So we know they are not serious about real immigration reform, only another Amnesty. The Democrat-Socialist Party have OPPOSED both mandatory E-verify & the fence, only interested in votes, not real reform. This easily could have been completed decades about if not for politics. Why so many are sick of POLITICIANS, and want Trump, & like Ben Carson.

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        1. bobnstuff April 3, 2016

          The Senate passed a bill with all the stuff you are asked for but you haven’t even read it and the republicans didn’t even send it to committee because they were afraid it would pass and they can’t pass anything the president wants. Also why was the fence started under GW? You say it was the democrats that opposed E-verify but the had it as part of the bill they passed. They also had border enforcement as mandatory before anything else kicked in. The only thing in the bill that the republicans didn’t say they wanted was a path to citizenship and the house could have pulled it out and sent it back to the senate. Go check your facts.

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          1. paulyz April 4, 2016

            Did you not understand that the reason the immigration reform bill was not supported was because the Amnesty came instantaneously like past immigration reform “comprehensive Amnesties”, with only “promises” of enforcenent, just like the 1986, (one-time), Amnesty. Never again can we trust the Federal Government to actually do this, when they have had decades to. Only then can the other issues be taken seriously. Special interests fought any action on the approved 700 mile fence, why only 36 miles of 2-Layer has been completed in 10 YEARS!, Proves they haven’t any intention of real enforcement.

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          2. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Why don’t you write the government a check to pay for the rest of that fence…..I certainly don’t want MY taxpayer money to pay for something so ridiculous and unworkable!!!

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          3. paulyz April 4, 2016

            I will, as soon as you pay for the BILLIONS in costs from the many burdens of Illegals. The cost of the WALL & Mandatory E-verify is peanuts from what we SAVE taxpayers, including you.

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          4. bobnstuff April 4, 2016

            Go read the bill. Amnesties come only after all the other things are done. This isn’t the 86 bill.

            So special interests stopping Bush is OK but not OK for stopping Obama. Name one thing the republicans have done to improve border security in the last 10 years. A number of senate republicans supported the immigration bill and a number of house members would have voted for it but the house never got the chance to vote on it. Lets face it the republicans like to make noise about things but don’t fix anything.

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          5. dpaano April 4, 2016

            bobnstuff….I agree (see my note above). Unfortunately, people who are uninformed seem to want to blame the wrong people for the problems that we have in this country. Had the Senate and the House done what was done in the past…..reached across the aisle, negotiated, discussed, researched, etc., a heck of a lot more things would have been done to help this country! People are angry at the WRONG thing, yet they want to vote in the very same type of people to do the very same thing!

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        2. dpaano April 4, 2016

          First of all, it is impossible to put a wall up for the entire length of the border……the cost would be prohibitive to say the least (and I don’t think the taxpayers want to have to pay for it). Secondly, there are places along the border that are inaccessible and not easy to build a wall across. Thirdly, if they can get under, over, or around the wall, they will find a way…….they’ve already proven that! A wall will do NOTHING except to cost us money that needs to be spent on better ideas for border control. As for E-verify….I believe it was the Congress that voted that down, so don’t blame the President for that one! And, if you’re sick of politicians, put the blame in the right place…..the lack of “across the aisle” compromise or negotiation. Since Day One when President Obama was elected, McConnell and his group of thugs decided that they would not vote for anything suggested by the president, and they’ve adhered to that despite the problems that it’s caused the American citizens. They don’t care about what WE want….they just want to be a bunch of school ground bullies and just turn away from anything that would be good for this country. They’ve done it for 7+ years now and they continue to do it! That’s what I’m angry about……

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          1. paulyz April 4, 2016

            The WALL would be for 1,000 miles, in the worst areas, other areas have some fences already, and since 700 miles of 2-Layer fencing was already approved 10 years ago, a 1000 mile wall would actually be only 300 miles more. Other areas can be handled by the Border Patrol. Mandatory E-verify was voted down & OPPOSED by the Democrat-Socialist Party for years, & opposed by Obama as well. He had Complete control of Congress for several years but didn’t do a thing about it, instead, he encourages Illegal immigration.

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          2. dpaano April 5, 2016

            I assume you’ve ACTUALLY traveled the ENTIRE length of the border between the US and Mexico, right? Others have, and they are engineers and should know what can or cannot be done. The cost itself would be prohibitive.

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          3. paulyz April 11, 2016

            I have been to several areas along the border. Donald Trump HAS many extremely capable engineers that have already produced cost estimates on the border wall. They will be able to accomplish this because the only thing “prohibitive” has been excuses to NOT physically secure our border, OR, pass Mandatory E-verify.

            On many Interstate Highways across the Country, & ones I drive on often, barrier walls pop -up very quickly mile after mile. They are along all types of terrain, hills, valleys, creeks, no problem.

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          4. paulyz April 11, 2016

            Obama has ZERO intention of passing mandatory E-verify, or border security FIRST, only (comprehensive) Amnesty, AGAIN.

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      2. dpaano April 4, 2016

        Isn’t it amazing that most conservatives on this post don’t truly understand what the president can and cannot do! Both Cruz and Trump think they’re just going to waltz into the Oval Office, do away with Obamacare and various government agencies, and round up millions of illegal (and in some case, legal) aliens with no thought of the cost to we taxpayers…..it just doesn’t happen that way. As I said above, they aren’t being elected to be “king,” they are running for president. If they want to be pissed at someone, they need to look to the Congress for some of the problems that we have in this country!

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    5. bobnstuff April 5, 2016

      Paulyz haven’t you looked at those laws yet, I keep telling you to but you keep making statements that prove you haven’t. The laws are a joke and can’t be enforced.

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  8. Aaron_of_Portsmouth April 2, 2016

    We have a systemic problem that gnaws at the very fiber of American society. Those w/o adequate insight and clarity of vision are most vulnerable and tend to swayed more by style than substance or rational thought—the latter is considered an efeminate quality among those who barely advanced beyond high school.

    The most lasting solution to a systemic problem is to address the “root” causes; for humans, their may be many root sources and to eliminate may take a very long time, but the job has to be done lest the “patient” become terminally ill.

    Some of the “root” causes are:

    1) Inordinate Materialism(a consequence of the waning of a Spiritual nature)

    2) A frame of mind that is self-centered or group-centered and fails to see the “cord” that connects all of humanity as a single creation but possessed of different and complimentary parts that have distinctive characteristics yet must function together for the entire human family to function properly—-much like the different parts of the human body. (Only a fool would willingly cut off his arm or lop off an ear because they are slightly different in size, or gouge out an eye because it has a brown iris as opposed to a blue one for the other eye, for example).

    3) A deviant and overweening notion of Nationalism that exalts one’s nation over others(refer to part 2 for the deficiency in that viewpoint).

    4) An inordinate fear of beliefs and differences of expression which consequently
    lead to extremist ideologies and aggressive reaction to the unfamiliar.

    5) An insistence on using old “remedies” on new stages of human and social evolution, and/or applying false concepts about different people based on myths and false perceptions handed down from prior generations.

    Item 5 may be seen as the “Mother of Root Causes of Societal Dysfunction” and applies to political extremists, racists(and those with ‘racialist’ tendencies), and religious fanatics.

    The following quote offers a glimpse as to how to think about each other and begin to attack the social and spiritual problems that afflict us. Some of you have seen this quote before, so humor me:

    “O CHILDREN OF MEN! Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest. Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory.”

    (#68 in the ‘Arabic Section’ of “The Hidden Words”, by Baha’u’llah)

    This quote, and others like it, provide the “window” on the solution required to heal a sore America, and an equally sore world society and planet.

    The Donald has proven quite useful in directing our gaze in the general direction of the sources of our sickness, little does he and others know it.

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    1. latebloomingrandma April 2, 2016

      Unfortunately, conservatives don’t look for root causes, seek to understand other cultures, or delve into any problem with depth of thinking or analysis. I know it’s dangerous to generalize, but following conservative and liberal thinking for several years now, it seems like democrats do more analysis and conservatives do more reactive thinking to keep things from changing over much.

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      1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

        That is the funniest thing I think I’ve ever read on this site. And let me he you that’s a real high bar to get over because people say ridiculous things all the time here

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        1. latebloomingrandma April 2, 2016

          Thank you. You proved my point.

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          1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            Yep …you raised the stupid bar to a whole new level

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          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth April 3, 2016

            Oh dear—bikejedi is making ad hominem attacks again. Rather than be objective and say something intelligent on an issue, he chooses a more arrogant response of attacking the individual personally.

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          3. charleo1 April 3, 2016

            Now where did he ever get that? Arrogant responses, personal attacks, nonsensical easy fixes, instead of fact based solutions?

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          4. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Oh no, bikejedi, no one will EVER make it to your level!

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          5. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            Can’t you come up with a,single original thought ? Of course not .

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          6. dpaano April 5, 2016

            Sure I can, but I don’t think you could reach that level! And, original thoughts seem to be beyond your understanding.

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      2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth April 3, 2016

        I believe that the crux of the problem is not with a specific category of people but rather a general fault that lies within all of us. That is, for those of us who tend to be lazy in the thinking department are forever looking for easy superficial solutions; they tend to attack any rational process and instead find solace in the company of like-minded shallow individuals.
        For these types of people, whatever their political stripe is, we have to leave them to themselves and hope that by the grace of God they may gain some enlightenment and a more robust thinking process.

        Fare thee well. (I notice that “bikejedi” is on the loose again—oh well).

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  9. Patricia McCullough April 2, 2016

    Well, now won’t they look silly when he is crushed by a Democrat. And they have seriously put themselves in a bad position by bad-mouthing our current President. This could bite them in the butt. Their job is to patrol the border, where I live, not to carry-on like hateful bigots.

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  10. bikejedi April 2, 2016

    Why should it surprise anyone that the people in charge of Border Security would want a President who believes in the law and backs their mission. And remember the biggest part of that mission is out National Security . Liberals hheads explode in 3 2 1

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    1. Ray Evans Harrell April 2, 2016

      bikejedi, if the law had been supported by the border militias and rangers we would have never had a US. Don’t you know, that’s how manifest destiny was accomplished? Breaking the law and all of those Indian Treaties. Are you afraid that you have become the “Indian” in all of this? That would be a point. REH

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      1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

        Well some of that is part of our history . Different times and reasons. I’m very comfortable that we need to back law enforcement to the holy these days. I’m very comfortable that we need a massive increase in border security for our National Security in whatever form that happens.

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        1. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

          To bad the congress doesn’t share your view. When asked for the funds to do just that they said no.

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          1. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            No Obama and the Dems loaded it with so much bullcrap it wasn’t worth passing . We all know that will change if Cruz or Trump wins. We know that the Veterans will come before Illegal Aliens and the Liberals know that too . You would hope they would want our own veterans to come before Illegal Aliens just like any American should .

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          2. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

            So the House took up the bill and removed all the bad things and sent it back to the senate, right. Oh no they didn’t even bring it to committee. You believe that the congress would work with Trump or Cruz. These are two of the least like people on earth for the congress. As far a Trump taking care of the Vets, he still hasn’t given out the money he raised for them and half the Vet groups don’t want anything to do with him.

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          3. bikejedi April 2, 2016

            Yes they will work with either Trump or Cruz

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          4. bobnstuff April 3, 2016

            The Senate hates Cruz, look at the history here. The Republican party has been trying to dump Trump for months. Just what makes you think they would work with either of them. If you thought that Obama was bad Trump would make him look saint.

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          5. bikejedi April 3, 2016

            I don’t think it would be a problem once elected especially if the GOP maintains their majorities. The bigger issue then would be establishment Republicans who act just like Democrats trying to push the left’s agenda for them . As it looks now the GOP is going to lose Kirk in Illinois because he thinks he can out liberal a Democrat rubber stamp in Duckworth . Powered by Cricket Wireless.

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          6. bobnstuff April 3, 2016

            The polls say the republicans will loose the senate and could loose the house. Even if the republicans do keep them they will not work with Trump or Cruz. The hate them more then Obama. Either way the republican party has self destructed. Cruz will not support Trump and Trump will run on a independent ticket if he’s not the republican candidate. The establishment still runs the congress and that’s not going to change.

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          7. RED April 4, 2016

            Here’s a helpful hint… you can’t reason with ignorant Cons. If you could reason with them, well they wouldn’t be ignorant Cons.

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          8. dpaano April 4, 2016

            Good luck with that….you keep dreaming of that fantasy, okay? Neither the Senate NOR the House like either Cruz OR Trump…..so you actually think they would work with either of them? Secondly, some of the BS that Cruz and Trump are saying they are going to do isn’t possible either because it’s against the constitution or because it is already a federal law! They aren’t being elected to be a king…..just a president…..and that position has a lot of things that can’t be done!

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          9. bikejedi April 4, 2016

            You don’t have to like people to get cooperation and niether of them are likely to demagogue Congress going in like Obama has done. Look if Obama can get everything he wants from people he has schlept off all the blame on just think what they can do .. just sayin
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          10. dpaano April 5, 2016

            President Obama tried in his first term to get the Congress to learn to “negotiate,” but they had already made up their minds NOT to let anything pass that he put forth.

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          11. bikejedi April 5, 2016

            100% false talking point. The first 2 years they had no voice but between the 2010 midterms when they took the Senate in 2014 the GOP led house sent 353 bills to the Dem Senate. 98 % of those bills had wide bipartisan support with 55 being written by house Dems. Harry Reid did not allow a vote on a single one of them so stop spreading Bullshit about anyone obstructing Obama. It makes Liberals sound silly . Also Obama has been allowed more leeway in spending away your grandkids future than any President in History . NO ONE OBSTRUCTED HIM and it was he who refused to work with Congress. An example is the period right after the 2014 midterms when the GOP took the Senate. Now Obama wanted immigration reform before that and the GOP was bending over to give him everything he wanted . Instead of giving the new Senate a chance to send him a bill he did his now famous and unConstitutional EO and circumvented Congress while calling them obstructionist. Certainly someone if your intelligence can see through that right ???, Powered by Cricket Wireless.

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          12. dpaano April 6, 2016

            Have you not read about how the GOP easily blocked these by filibusters? President Obama tried during his first term to work with the GOP; however, they had made up their minds to block ANYTHING that he suggested and even to NOT negotiate with anyone on the other side of the aisle!!!! As for the immigration bill that you say the GOP provided…”bending over to give him everything he wanted.” Let’s talk about all the parts of it that were totally unconstitutional!!! And, for your information, President Obama has used fewer Executive Orders than any president previous….even your precious GWB!!! Maybe you need to question your OWN intelligence because it’s severely lacking!

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          13. bikejedi April 7, 2016

            They gave up and caved after the filibuster . Look , Obama came up with sequestration and then didn’t live up to it. .There was a Government shut down over it. When they came back the GOP caved. The GOP base and any concerned American who has kids were appalled. That is why the GOP base is refusing to back an establishment candidate. Next name one instance where Obama tried to work with the GOP ??? He has spent two terms labelling them as obstructionists when they’ve given him everything he has asked for. Who brought up EO’s . It isn’t who did more it’s the fact that Obama’s are unconstitutional .
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          14. dpaano April 4, 2016

            As usual…..I think that’s the only word they know lately!

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  11. Lord_Reaper April 2, 2016

    Supporting Trump with all his rhetoric is seriously extremely bad for America and with the Border Patrol Union supporting them, are these people seriously demented? Don’t they realize that with someone like Trump, they are putting themselves in the middle of the unemployment line. It does make sense with these people because I knew a person who went into training to be a Border Patrol Agent and he was actually pretty ignorant even with the basic knowledge of life. It just goes to show the job of patrolling our borders takes no brains to do the job. As far as supporting Trump, they just cemented the fact that any idiot can do their job, especially the immigrants that come over here because they will take your job and do it for half the salary you attempt to do it for.

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    1. RED April 4, 2016

      It’s not just that they are morons, all law enforcement is made up of idiots. But the worse part is their ignorance is coupled with violent and fascist tendencies.

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  12. Paul Anthony April 2, 2016

    When the people responsible for our safety say the current administration is failing in that regard, maybe we should listen to them.

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    1. Ray Evans Harrell April 2, 2016

      Too simple. Much more complicated than that and that is the problem, our ability to deal with complexity and not to resort to expedient solutions that cause problems like Iraq down to the seventh generation. All of these dudes supported the US going to war. The only one in power that admits they made a mistake is the woman. She seems to learn from her mistakes. I will vote for her.

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      1. Paul Anthony April 2, 2016

        If she had really learned from it we wouldn’t have the mess in Libya, Egypt and Syria that occurred on her watch as Sec. of State.

        She only “learned” when her past voting record became a liability in the election.

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        1. bobnstuff April 2, 2016

          You are trying to blame the actions of people in other countries for deciding on their own what government they want on Clinton?. We didn’t create the problems and it’s not our job to fix them. Would you want another country telling us how to run our government or who we can elect as our leaders? You may not like it but Libya, Egypt and Syria are allowed to have their own civil wars with out our help.

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          1. Paul Anthony April 3, 2016

            You actually believe our government wasn’t behind the overthrow of those governments? You’re naive.

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          2. charleo1 April 3, 2016

            How pray tell did Hillary Clinton at the State Dept. or the U.S. Gov. manage to get thousands out in the streets of Cairo, Egypt, protesting, and advocating the overthrow of the brutal, and corrupt gov. of dictator Mubarak? While they faced beatings, water hosing, men riding camels, arrest, and at times live ammunition? But you’re willing to believe this, and call anyone who doesn’t naive? When are you going to start facing glaring facts, that fail to neatly fit into a made up narrative? Soon I hope.

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          3. RED April 4, 2016

            Are you new to the U.S.? Or just willfully blind. The U.S. has been orchestrated coups and government overthrows for decades, it’s the American specialty. Now, I don’t know exactly what the U.S. may or may not have done in the specific countries you named, usually we don’t find out how deeply involved our government was until years later. But to pretend that the U.S. doesn’t usually get involved in these countries is ridiculous.

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          4. charleo1 April 4, 2016

            Well, that’s just the point. You don’t have any idea, and you’re free to speculate about anything to your heart’s content. But, at least try to avoid labeling the more skeptical among us, blind, naive, or not being from around here, for not buying in to your conspiracies.

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          5. RED April 4, 2016

            Yes, the US having a hand in toppling governments for the last 50 years is a “conspiracy theory.” Hehehe, right, “they hate us because of our freedom,” right? And it’s just crazy conspiracy theories about propping up brutal dictatorships and destroying elected governments. Na, the US would never do that, the US government just wants freedom and democracy for everyone. Yeah, I’m the crazy conspiracy theories guy. Hehehe

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    2. charleo1 April 3, 2016

      Correction, their union reps took that position. And maybe their priorities are not keeping us safe, but in growing the agency The fact is, every agency in the gov. is perpetually as a matter of rote, short handed, under paid, and needing ever more resources to adequately do their assigned task. Every one of them when ask, will tell the same story. We need more!

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      1. Paul Anthony April 3, 2016

        Very true. Private enterprise has to make a profit, so it must do more with less. Government agencies do not make a profit, so the answer to every failure is always ‘we need more money’.

        But when government prevents an agency from doing its job, more money won’t change the outcome. This union is complaining that they are prevented from enforcing the laws they exist to enforce.

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        1. charleo1 April 3, 2016

          I don’t recall hearing, or remember reading what laws they specifically may be referring to being prevented from enforcing. Unless it’s raiding elementary, and high schools, looking for ISIS or Ebola cases? However, I do hear the immigration courts are about 400,000 cases behind at this point. A full 1/2 of all present aliens came in legally, and simply overstayed their Visas. And there is not the manpower to chase all of these cases down. But the overall deportation numbers under the Obama administration are at all time highs. While the border patrol itself reports the aggregate numbers of illegal entries have been static for the past several years, political, and partisan demagoguing, and scapegoating of the undocumented problem notwithstanding.

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    3. dpaano April 4, 2016

      But, you DO realize that there have been fewer and fewer illegals coming across our borders the past several years, right? If not, maybe you need to read the papers once in a while! People are even returning to Mexico because things are looking up there job-wise (we can thank Trump since some of his junk is made in Mexico).

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  13. Bernie Bro April 2, 2016

    They are not real law enforcement agents. They are not even given rifles.

    They are more akin to park rangers. The Bush admin merged them with Customs for a reason.

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  14. Otto T. Goat April 3, 2016

    It’s really outrageous a union endorsed someone who isn’t a Democrat, how is that even legal.

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    1. Phil Christensen April 4, 2016

      You’re killing me.

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  15. RED April 4, 2016

    Ahh, another article that suggest surprise that law enforcement in the U.S. is a hateful, bigoted, criminal enterprise.

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  16. Rosa1984 April 4, 2016

    I see nothing troubling about it. Unions endorse candidates all the time.
    They want to do their job, securing the borders, but the current President told them not to.

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    1. dpaano April 6, 2016

      Our government NEVER told the border patrol NOT to enforce the laws…..my brother-in-law works for the Border Patrol in San Diego, and he says they are doing the same as always when it comes to protecting our border. There were NO edicts to them about doing any less. Not sure where you’re getting your information, but it’s totally incorrect. Apparently, it’s coming from the GOP as one of their lies! Typical!

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      1. InformedVoter April 13, 2016

        Sorry, but once again you are mistaken. Time and again, the Obama administration has ORDERED the border patrols to ignore aliens from entering the country illegally. Perhaps you should try looking at news sources that are totally biased.

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        1. dpaano April 13, 2016

          Unfortunately, YOU are the one that is mistaken. My brother-in-law and his friends have ALL said that they were NEVER instructed to not enforce the laws along the border. They patrol the Tijuana and San Ysidro borders. In fact, they said the immigrants coming across the borders from Mexico have dwindled quite a bit in the past several months…..more are leaving the U.S. and going back to Mexico. Again, they have received NO “alleged” edicts from the government about not enforcing the laws at the borders…..just another lie that the GOP keeps trying to get their base to believe……and, not sure what “news sources” you’re looking at because I think an ACTUAL border patrol agent would know whether or not he’s been told to “ignore aliens from entering the country illegally.”

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          1. InformedVoter April 13, 2016

            I’ll be kind and say your brother-in-law is “mistaken” (if the tables were reversed you’d have used the word liar). It has made major headlines in Arizona and Texas that Obama has given orders to ignore the thousands crossing the border.
            Perhaps you have forgotten Sheriff Joe and his challenging the administration on not being able to enforce the existing laws that are and have been on the books.
            The numbers may be dwindling in CA (I doubt that), but New Mexico, Texas and Arizona have all seen a major increase … or perhaps that is another vast right wing conspiracy?

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