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Poll: Most Americans Want To Fix Obamacare — Not End It

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  1. plc97477 March 7, 2017

    Good luck gotp. You have a choice of pissing off your voters or pissing off your rich donors. I would not want to decide which to piss off.

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    1. dpaano March 7, 2017

      IT would be an easy choice for most of us…..listen to your constituents!!! But, the greedy GOP politicians have no morals, so you get what the Koch Brothers have paid for! I owe almost $8,000 in Federal taxes this year, and it galls me that it’s going to pay for 45’s many trips to Mar-a-Lago each week-end, and for the paychecks for these idiots in our Congress!!! I can think of many other things that it should go for, and those aren’t among them!!!

    2. Thoughtopsy March 7, 2017

      Life would be so much easier for the GOP if American elections allowed you a number of votes equal to your net worth in millions of dollars.
      i.e. If you have $100,000 net worth, you get no votes. If you have 1 billion dollars you get 1,000 votes.

      Alas, currently, only the process of passing laws in Congress works that way.
      Although Citizens United and SuperPACs were a good try.

      1. dpaano March 8, 2017

        I kinda don’ agree….the truly wealthy would end up getting more votes and the poor would have no say in their government.

        1. Thoughtopsy March 8, 2017

          Sorry that was sarcasm… I’ll add a “/sarcasm” tag next time. 😉
          I think the GOP would love that idea though. 😉

        2. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 10, 2017

          then it would just be what the greedy bastard rich want try and do is BUY THEIR VOTES as much as thy can and every way thy can

          1. dpaano March 10, 2017

            I think they already do this, right?

          2. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

            I believe so when and where thy can

          3. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

            im thinking the best way to deal with the DUMPSTER these days is if so be it act like the deranged child he act like right back at him . the media are too kind to him and his press sect. thy should be just coming with out and saying and asking is DONNY DUMP I compulsive liar ? and when thy talk to him ask the same things . if be it a reporter is able to ask him a question it should be MR. DUMPSTER its seems to be and told by so many people media and a lot of other , saying you’re a pathological liar is this true ? and also MR. DUMPSTER what affect do you feel being this will have on being the President and how other country’s leaders will think of you ? and how will this make you deal with them ? no more should any one be nice . all should be straight forward with this clown every one the press media and anyone that might talk to him or about him . no more calling it untruths just call it what it is lies and he is lying again . as for Obama he should be filing a law suit against the DUMPSTER for lying about him and the wire tapping . it defaming his creator. sue him like he says would and dose others for the same thing of less

  2. Dapper Dan March 7, 2017

    So seriously to the Republican hierarchy are you going to listen to your angry constituents at the Town Halls and stop trying to replace the ACA ? Or are you going to be dictated to by rich donors like the Koch Brothers ? Who are you truly there to represent in Washington ? It’s a rhetorical question since I sadly already know the answer

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    1. Thoughtopsy March 7, 2017

      Based on watching Paul Ryan and the “smart” Republicans over the last ten years pay less and less attention to their voters, I’m generally leaning towards the concept that they are now caught up in what they see as a form of culture war, or philosophical war for the soul of America.

      They seem to have reached this point by assuming an arrogant, ideologically driven belief that they “know” what is best for America… no matter what “The People” want. In fact they seem to strategically lie to their own voters repeatedly and broadly about most things.

      This reveals a callous, undemocratic and mercenary attitude to their voting base which essentially amounts to: “We need you to vote for us but we know you are too stupid to understand why we are implementing these ideologically pure policies that will hurt you, so we will knowingly lie to you and distract you with pointless fears and outrage while we get on with our agenda.”

      As evidence: It’s very clear Ryan and cohorts want to dismantle the welfare state permanently and end the New Deal era for ideological reasons. How many of the Republican voting base do you think would vote for them if they bluntly said that? Yeah. 5%?

      Do they realise that pursuing their agenda in full will essentially kill tens if not hundreds of thousands of Americans and makes the lives of many more very miserable verging on third world suffering?
      Yes I think most of the “smart” ones do.

      Do they care?
      Not really. Republicans in general appear to suffer from a large empathy or compassion “gap”. If the group of people affected is more of a distant concept to them, they don’t care.
      On the other hand if you personalize the people… if it’s “their people” that are affected… then they display a fierce empathy and fight for them.

      This is why McConnell can demand Federal support for Kentucky flooding yet vote against Federal support for Hurricane Sandy relief with a straight face. Kentuckians are “his people”. NJ residents can suck a d**k.

      This is also why Republicans hate gay and LGBTQ people… until their son or daughter comes out of the closet… then they often suddenly “evolve” on the issue because it’s now “their people”… (Except for Cheney, the embodiment of evil, of course.)

      Unfortunately, due to the comfortable and wealthy lives they lead, poor people, even if they are from their own states, aren’t “their people”. They are just the poor dumb voters they need to lie to in order to stay in power.
      All “their people” are wealthy enough to have private healthcare, so the people who will suffer and die of preventable conditions because they can’t afford insurance are an abstraction to them… and not worthy of empathy.

      I think that is also why you see so many Republicans hiding from their constituents and town halls and explaining away the unrest by claiming they are all paid protesters….
      Imagine the conflict in them about this:
      – If they are forced to believe that the people yelling at them and writing to them about keeping their insurance are “their” constituents, from their district, who are real people in their local town who will be negatively affected, i.e. “Their People”… then they must empathize with their upset and defend them. This would then put them in a very difficult position of having to break with their fellow Republicans on a very contentious issue which they have been lying about for a long time. A very uncomfortable position.
      – However if they avoid showing up, and choose to believe that all the protesters are “Paid Protesters”… then they can continue to comfortably believe that “their people” are not affected… and the people who will be affected remain an abstraction.

      1. FireBaron March 8, 2017

        They have all forgotten the most important political rule, as stated by Tip O’Neill – All politics are local.

  3. notafoxfan March 7, 2017

    face it folks..the republican congress and senate do not care about the average American citizen..they have themselves set up with their own system of benefits and heatlhcare, and they are merely “going through the motions”..if all of the town hall crowds did not do anything,why would anyone think when they are back in their “safety net” on capitol hill,that things would change..sad..people wil suffer and they truly only care about themselves and pleasing the trumpster in chief…

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    1. dpaano March 7, 2017

      And the Koch Brothers…..who, by the way, were NOT elected to run our government so they should keep their money AND their noses out of it!!!

    2. dtgraham March 7, 2017

      C’mon now. Republicans are delivering a patient-centered health care system with common-sense free-market solutions that’s consumer empowered and puts Americans back in charge of their health care with skin in the game, and tort reform that sells across state lines (or something like that).

      Ok sure, maybe it blows when it comes to actually delivering health coverage to Americans, but when you’ve got those kinds of broad, vague, 30,000-foot-high-level abstractions for attributes, it’s gotta be worth something…no?

  4. dpaano March 7, 2017

    It’s pretty sad that our GOP politicians tend not to listen to their constituents and would rather listen to the Koch Brothers! Apparently, we can see who actually owns our government, and it certainly isn’t us! We pay their salaries, but we have no say in what they do! This is what our politics have come to, and it’s not pretty!

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    1. FireBaron March 8, 2017

      Remember, my dear, the GOP electees do not owe anything to the people who actually voted for them. The Koch Brothers will always make sure they keep getting reelected.

      1. dpaano March 8, 2017

        So true, but the most we can hope for is that the people of this country are now sitting up and taking more notice of what’s happening in our government. I hear a lot more people discussing politics than ever before! We can thank 45 for this…..his actions are so ridiculous that people pay attention to them!

    2. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

      thy only hear and want to listen to the DONNY DUMP BRAIN DEAD FOLLOWERS

  5. dtgraham March 7, 2017

    Jason Chaffetz actually said that low and middle income Americans should forego that planned iphone purchase for health insurance instead. Right. Like that’s going to pay for health insurance coverage and out-of-pocket costs.

    “Americans have choices and they’ve got to make a choice. And so, maybe rather than getting that new iPhone that they just love and they want to go spend hundreds of dollars on, maybe they should invest it in their own health care. They’ve got to make those decisions for themselves.” — Jason Chaffetz

    So you have to choose between a cell phone and health care. Run that by me again. When did the United States become the Republic of the Congo?

    What kills me is that the only thing that may save the ACA for awhile anyway, is that a number of Republicans think their own party’s replacement is not terrible enough, and therefore won’t vote for it. The proposed GOP replacement won’t cover nearly as many people as the ACA did, but it may still cover a few too many for their liking. What will the House Freedom Caucus replacement plan be called? Screw the Poor?

    Gawd.

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    1. itsfun March 8, 2017

      If Americans have choices, what are the choices they now have with Obamacare. Obamacare mandates what kind of policy they will have with no exceptions, Obamacare fines them if they don’t buy into the plan. What kind of choice is that?

      1. FireBaron March 8, 2017

        And many of these people have never had coverage before, or what they had was a joke that one major illness or injury would lead to bankruptcy.

        1. itsfun March 8, 2017

          We will never agree on mandating people buy a insurance product. People that are completely irresponsible by not purchasing AFFORDABLE health care are going to find a way to go bankrupt anyway.

        2. dpaano March 8, 2017

          Itsy…..it’s unfortunately that you don’t seem to understand that the poor, the disabled, the elderly, and the low-income people don’t HAVE funds to pay for healthcare….even a few dollars to put into a so-called “budget” or an HSA plan is a ridiculous plan! Maybe you need to try being poor for a while, living on the streets, or having to eat dog food to keep alive! No one ASKED for this when they were born, but circumstances happen to everyone…..some people make it; others do not. Why do you want to ignore those who did not for one reason or another? It’s heartless!

      2. dtgraham March 8, 2017

        You don’t need choice. You just need competent healthcare when you have to have it, with it based on need and not ability to pay. This isn’t a tie or TV purchase we’re talking about.

        1. itsfun March 8, 2017

          People need to take responsibility for their selves. I am not talking about people that are not capable of earning a living. I am talking about healthy people that can work. People do need choices of what they want to buy for their selves. Its not my responsibility to pay for others health care if they are capable of working and earning a living. Those that are handicapped in one way or another should get our help with the best possible care. When people lose their jobs through no fault of their own, then I believe Medicaid should take over their health care until they can find employment. We do need health care available for all, but the current system is going broke and needs to be either fixed or a new system needs to be created.

          1. dtgraham March 10, 2017

            “Its not my responsibility to pay for others health care if they are capable of working and earning a living.”

            I would just take umbrage with that statement. Many people don’t make the kind of money in their full-time employment to be able to afford private health insurance if their employer doesn’t provide it. There are even some of those who can’t afford their share of a miserly employer based plan. Those kind of low wage employers often don’t provide any health insurance benefits.

            You’ll end up still paying for part of their ER visits in your own premiums, if they don’t have health insurance (unless you want to eliminate Reagan’s old law regarding that). That’s universal health care my friend, and you either agree with it or you don’t. We all pay for each other in a progressive sense. The ones who can afford it will pay a little more in order to cover those who can only afford a lesser amount. The ACA licked around the edges of that concept.

            You’re almost there now in your thinking. Just take one more step.

          2. dpaano March 10, 2017

            Apparently, itsy doesn’t understand that the elderly, the disabled, and the very young aren’t really able to work and earn a living……

          3. dtgraham March 10, 2017

            Itsy won’t rest until he finally elects politicians who will ensure that every baby and 90 year old paraplegic has a job to support their healthcare habit.

        2. dpaano March 10, 2017

          And, apparently, Americans have already made a choice…..when you look at how many people want to keep the ACA rather than appeal it…..you wonder if our politicians are even listening or just doing what the party wants them to do even if it’s against everything that their constituents want!!!

          1. dtgraham March 10, 2017

            It’s very odd that way. I can’t figure that out. Polling data continues to show that the Republicans are usually in favour of the opposite of whatever Americans claim to want, in polls taken. They’re the opposite party. I made this observation a few years back and it’s still true. They’re like an old Seinfeld episode.

            “Who are you, Republican party?” “We’re the opposite of every political party you’ve ever heard of.” “This is more than just a political and governing philosophy to us.” “This is our religion.”

            You know who their deity would have to be? The anti-Christ.

          2. dpaano March 10, 2017

            And we ALL know who we can point the finger at……45! If ever there WAS an anti-Christ, he’s it!

          3. dtgraham March 10, 2017

            You got that right. I thought that Donald’s proposed amendment to Trumpcare that would allow rich people to harvest the organs of living poor people was a little harsh.

            He campaigned on health care for all if you recall. I notice that he has no problems at all with the greatly reduced coverage of Trumpcare. I think he meant healthcare for all affluent white people. When he found out that it was supposed to mean everyone, he said…”oh screw that then.”

          4. dpaano March 13, 2017

            I agree, his mantra about “better coverage for less money” was a bunch of campaign BS! His followers are the ones that are going to suffer more than any other group! The Rust Belt is known for high instances of obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc., and most of them are on Medicare or have coverage through the ACA. I’m not sure how he expects them to continue getting coverage if they have to pay more for less services! I fear that they are NOT going to be too happy, but, then again, many of them don’t realize that Obamacare and the ACA are one and the same….they think they are separate plans! Brilliant minds!

          5. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

            the thing is the same thing the GOP gang of pinhead idiots did to Hillary (ADMITTED IT JUST WANTED TO MAKE HER LOOK BAD NO MATTER WHAT IT TOOK AND THE LIES THY HAD TO TELL ) more or less the same thing with the ACA at the time the gang of pinheads got the American people to think the ACA was a bad thing . just by saying it again and again . (im thinking more of the brain dead followers or the DUMPSTER and following the GOP too . seems people should really look harder at the whole thing the pinheads are trying to stuff down the country’s throats . thy say thy are not trying to stuff nothing down the peoples throats . the ACA when was going into play was signed in Nov. 2009 . but had hearings all the time before the signing the people talked the Pros & Cons of the ACA months of every thing out in the open so all could see . and yes talked about it all that time . what the gang of pinheads (GOP) doing now ? thy are not even telling the people nothing . what its going to cost the coverage . and nothing at all about the DUMP DONT CARE PLAN and how many people will lose any ands all health care coverage . thy just want it passed thy what it passed so then there can be all the votes to get rid of it like thy had (and all failed ) with the ACA there was many hearings and Pros & Cons and speeches on the ACA in 2009 . how many has been now on the DUMP DONT CARE PLAN ? none zero goose egg 0 . and I heard the pinheads saying that thy wasn’t trying to force it down no one throats . NOOOOOOOO ??? then how long has the Dracula look-a-like Ryan been talking about his plan ? a month . and how many hearings or people talking about the pro’s & con’s of the DONT CARE PLAN has there been ? NONE Dracula just says take it it the best thing . know why ? because Dracula is already dead so no plan needed for him .

    2. dpaano March 8, 2017

      As I said on another NM site, Chaffetz and his gang don’t realize that most of the people buying IPhones are the young and college students…..I don’t see too many poor, lower-income, disabled, or elderly people running to buy new IPhones every time they come out with a new model! Poor people don’t have the money to spend on these things…..they have to worry about putting food on the table and a roof over their family’s heads! They also don’t have “extra” money to budget or to put in a health savings plan! As for the House Freedom Caucus….they are bought and paid for by the Koch Brothers. I have yet to figure out why these idiots are even getting involved in decisions that will affect our nation’s citizens.

  6. Thoughtopsy March 7, 2017

    Excellent.
    This will be ideal.

    The worst outcome for the Democrats would have been a quick ACA facelift by the Republicans… a name change and some rearrangement of the internals… then declaring Obamacare “Repealed and Replaced”. Because this looks like they can actually govern and get things done, and are responsive to the American people…. which they are decidedly not.

    The best outcome for the Democrats is a full repeal with no replacement. Of course this is the worst outcome for pretty much everyone who currently is on ACA or expended Medicare. But it throws the nature of the Republican Party into stark relief… which has now basically become:
    “We’ve been lying to you for years that Obamacare is a bad thing. We’ve been lying to you for years that we have a better plan. We are the party of greed, corporate welfare, and tax break for the wealthy, and we don’t care what you want as long as we can scare you with stories about LGBTQ people using bathrooms, brown people bringing drugs and crime, and demonic Liberals destroying America… to make you vote for us and against your own interests.”

    A moderately good outcome for the Democrats is an “Obamacare-lite” plan that does everything poorly (which looks like the direction they have now chosen)…
    This plan should fail to pass because it offends both the Republicans that recognise the danger inherent in their voters losing coverage at the hands of the GOP because it doesn’t do enough… and the hard right wing who are against all forms of welfare who will demand a full repeal with no replacement because they see poor people as disgusting, despicable and dishonest.
    With the Kock (sic) brothers and others pushing for a full repeal (so the millionaires get their tax break), and the town halls awash with voters screaming about losing their Healthcare we end up with an angry gridlock in the Republican party where they can’t get either a repeal or a replacement done… while the Obamacare exchanges die a slow death due to companies pulling out with all the uncertainty.

    This Republican gridlock and infighting while Rome burns and the Trump dumpster fire continues promising everything anyone wants from the Oval Office should provide an excellent education in what the Republican party are now good for.

    Nothing.
    They gave up reality and critical thought over 8 years ago. They don’t seem to listen to their voters ( who are in favor of things like expanded background checks, tax reform, healthcare, etc), they spout slogans and Fox Talking points without reference to facts or understanding the complexities of the systems they are talking about, and they seem to have settled on the weakest of all political strategies: Rig the Vote to ensure your minority vote total and popularity still gives you a majority of power.
    This is weak because it acknowledges that:
    a. They are ideologically fixed irrespective of what the people actually want. They are not going to change themselves or their beliefs to appeal to more people. This is either the opposite of democracy, or ultimately committing political suicide… take your pick.
    b. They know that they are not supported by a majority and have incorporated it into their election strategy… i.e. Unusual and illegal steps need to be taken to ensure they stay in power.

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    1. dpaano March 8, 2017

      But, don’t you think that this president and his cohorts have caused people to start to sit up and take closer notice of our government? I see many people who rarely, if ever, read a newspaper or listened to any news suddenly start talking about what’s going on politically. I see our young people and even the millennials taking a closer look at what’s going on with our government. I can only hope that this carries on to mid-terms and even the 2020 elections. If the Republicans don’t come up with a viable plan, per 45’s original promise of “better benefits for less money,” they are not going to get re-elected, especially in those areas that used to vote predominantly Democrat and went Republican this past election! Congress might be in for a real surprise, and we can only keep our fingers crossed!

      1. Thoughtopsy March 8, 2017

        I hope so.
        But nothing I’ve hoped for so far in the last 12 months has come to pass.
        On one side it depends how deep the Fox News, anti-knowledge delusion goes into the Trumptard voting base versus the other side, whether the current scenario will actually translate to a backlash in the upcoming special elections and 2018.

        The best possible outcome of the current Trump/GOP scenario is the next several special elections go unexpectedly and extremely Democratic, even in Trump counties and States, even when GOP candidates were expected to win comfortably.

        If this happens several times over the next year, you will see the Republican Congress impeach Trump before 2018 as an act of self preservation. They will then demonize him and claim they never supported any of his “crazy” policies.

        If the special elections don’t signal a sea change in the voters, then expect the current crazy to continue until the End of Human Life on Earth or the 2018 elections. Whichever comes first.

        1. Jmz Nesky March 13, 2017

          That then tells us we should back off and allow the pubs to self-destruct.. Just as they have done with the Dems for the last eight years and now no longer see them as a viable threat since they are in charge of everything.. With their sudden lack of challengers they’ve now turned in on themselves and as such have created inner party separation concerning ACA. One side will not allow the other side to get what they want and within the year more than most people would have had enough of their lies and inactions. A perfect time for the Dems to come down hard and do their pledged duty for the benefit of ALL Americans.

      2. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

        I see many people who rarely, if ever, read a newspaper or listened to any news suddenly start talking about what’s going on politically. I see our young people and even the millennials taking a closer look at what’s going on with our government./// sure more people are paying attention theses days because thy are scared crap of what the clown DONNY DUMP is going to do next to bring down the country and the people

      3. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

        its wake up time for the people

    2. Jmz Nesky March 13, 2017

      Very well said.. All true.

  7. itsfun March 8, 2017

    I don’t care what it is called, rates and deductions must be lowered for Americans. The current system is designed for complete government control of our health care. As companies drop out of the exchanges, the more the government officials will say we must have a single payer system. Give American people the choice of what they want to cover in a policy. Allow the average Joe to be able to join a group to be able to get group rates. Allow people to shop for insurance over state lines. Competition is a good thing for people. If we are allowed to buy a product from China, Japan, etc. why can’t we buy health care insurance from Ohio if we live in California?

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    1. FireBaron March 8, 2017

      Having been in the Life Insurance business decades ago, it’s so simple that it’s actually complicated as hell. Each state sets up its own insurance regulations for health, property, etc. They require insurers provide specific coverage based on the locale. So, if you call Allstate or Geico and you live in Ohio or Florida, you will be required to have specific coverage for unique events in both states.

      Same with health care. Each state’s insurance board says “If you want to sell health insurance policies here, you MUST provide these specific coverage requirements.” Now, let’s say you do live in California. The State Insurance Board there may require any policy coverage to include removal of five cysts in a year. But, Ohio may only require policy coverage to include removal of three! It’s actually worse where I live – our state only mandates a single cyst per year. This is a bitch if you are prone to Melanoma. Anyway, because Ohio only mandates three cyst removals, a policy from there would be less expensive, but it would not meet the coverage requirement of your state.

      This is one area where we do it wrong. Because each state is allowed to set their own regulations regarding coverage, we have a decidedly unequal health care system. One of the functions of the ACA was to eventually put everyone on the same page regarding coverage.

      The next thing, which is also dependent on where you live, is Tort Law. Some States have significantly more liberal Tort laws, making it easier to sue doctors for malpractice, especially in fields like Ob-Gyn. My wife’s doctor actually left that practice and went back to General Medicine because he could no longer afford his liability insurance. Also he moved to a state with more restrictive Tort Laws. As a result, his liability insurance premiums dropped almost 80%! Here is one place the GOP is definitely on the right track – we absolutely have to reform these on a nation-wide basis. To add to this, if a company has a presence in a State with liberal Tort Laws, you can bring suit against that company in that state even if you lived in a different state and received treatment there. One reason so many Big Pharma companies have their Corporate HQs in Delaware is because the Tort Laws there make it difficult to bring suit there. However, if they have a plant in Mississippi, you can bring suit against them there.

      Effectively, your insurance premiums are also helping to pay for those lawsuits and liability claims, too. So, even if you live in California, you may be paying for the effects of someone’s claim elsewhere.

      itsfun, I know we have both disagreed and agreed in the past. We both understand that the ACA did not accomplish what its main goal was. However, that was partially due to cowardice on the part of both parties in their failure to address the root problems associated with the financial end of the system. This is one reason I believe the only real solution is a nationalized system with allowances for subsidies for additional care.

      And before you say, but look at the people in Canada and the UK who come here for treatment – please understand we have a significantly higher percentage of our population in health care than they do in those two countries. Unfortunately, we also have a higher percentage of lawyers in relation to the general population than they do, too!

      So, is there an easy answer? No. Does the GOP proposal actually help? Not really.

      1. itsfun March 8, 2017

        Why couldn’t a insurance company like a Blue Cross, Athena, Humana, etc. be able to create a section for each states laws? They could create a data base for what every state requires and refer to those data bases for rates and coverages. It would not be that hard of a IT system to create. I spent 32 years as a IT systems Analyst and am sure that could be accomplished by these companies.

      2. dtgraham March 8, 2017

        I’ve read several articles on this topic before besides this link. It’s really a myth created by the right about the number of Canadians who go to the U.S. for treatment, by choice. Most often, they simply have to use a U.S. medical facility when travelling in the U.S. That being said, there are always wealthy people in every country who travel abroad for what they see as the best international medical facility for whatever their specific problem is. Don’t know about the Brits but it would probably be the same, I would think.

        http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-03-2012/myths-canada-health-care.html

  8. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 10, 2017

    The poor ‘just don’t want health care’: Republican congressman faces backlash over comments thing is DR. BRAIN DEAD is the fact the ACA is its name and all the RACIST GOP gang of pinheads that hate the fact that its is also called by many OBAMACARE better then being called the TRUMP DONT CARE act healthcare plan . and to do anything to the ACA and or OBAMACARE shouldn’t be focused on the name changing part as much as changing what one thinks there can be better things in it . no one said it was perfect . compared to anything the GOP was put together its perfect many times even Obama has said its not perfect and asked all to help make it better . any ideas are welcome to improving it . it dosent need to be scraped it just needs to be improved . if any feel or have ways thy like to add by all means bring them up to light for all to see know and talk about . to try to scrap the whole thing and then put all the same things back into a healthcare plan (with added new idea’s) that’s a waste of time and money (WHAT THE GOTO DO THE BEST ) fix it to a point its better and all feel this . don’t start over and put all the same thing into it with some others things . that’s what it is and the GOP want showing their childish racist evil hateful blood that runs in their sad body’s

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  9. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 10, 2017

    when the ACA was being done it took months . not days and weeks . and there was hearings with the pros & cons people able to give their opinions . as the GOP gang of pin heads like to make it was something forced down their throats and too fast . well gang of pinheads it seems to be you that is trying to force it down the country and peoples throats . how many people have you had talking about it with the peoples opinions ? none at all . no people at all its just your (the gang of pinheads ) opinions its strange how thy cry and say things that didn’t gone on with the ACA in 2009 . but one can see just what thy are talking about now . for its them that are doing all the jamming down the peoples throats and pushing it so fast just to try to fool all and get the BULL pass its what the gang of idiots do best screw the country

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  10. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 10, 2017

    when the ACA was being done it took months . not days and weeks . and there was hearings with the pros & cons people able to give their opinions . as the GOP gang of pin heads like to make it was something forced down their throats and too fast . well gang of pinheads it seems to be you that is trying to force it down the country and peoples throats . how many people have you had talking about it with the peoples opinions ? none at all . no people at all its just your (the gang of pinheads ) opinions its strange how thy cry and say things that didn’t gone on with the ACA in 2009 . but one can see just what thy are talking about now . for its them that are doing all the jamming down the peoples throats and pushing it so fast just to try to fool all and get the BULL pass

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  11. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 11, 2017

    time to do on to the DUMPSTER CLOWN as he dose on to others im thinking the best way to deal with the DUMPSTER these days is if so be it act like the deranged child he act like right back at him . the media are too kind to him and his press sect. thy should be just coming with out and saying and asking is DONNY DUMP I compulsive liar ? and when thy talk to him ask the same things . if be it a reporter is able to ask him a question it should be MR. DUMPSTER its seems to be and told by so many people media and a lot of other , saying you’re a pathological liar is this true ? and also MR. DUMPSTER what affect do you feel being this will have on being the President and how other country’s leaders will think of you ? and how will this make you deal with them ? no more should any one be nice . all should be straight forward with this clown every one the press media and anyone that might talk to him or about him . no more calling it untruths just call it what it is lies and he is lying again . as for Obama he should be filing a law suit against the DUMPSTER for lying about him and the wire tapping . it defaming his creator. sue him like he says would and dose others for the same thing of less

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  12. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 12, 2017

    I cant understand why all these people are afraid of DONNY DUMP (people in office ) he cant fire the ones the people voted in . by right thy all should be giving and treating the DUMPSTER CLOWN with the same respect he treats every one else with NONE NO RESPECT ) thy all should do as he dose when thy make statements just like he dose . call it like it is (and he is ) no more should anyone in an office of the USA should say DONNY DUMP that’s not true and that’s not a true statement you mad (again ) call it and say it just as it is . tell the clown that’s a lie and tell him in a statement you are a pathological liar and let them (the ones in office DEMS tell it like it is ) tell the DUMPSTER he is a pathetic , arrogant , ignorant lying big mouth blow hard . put theses truth out there for the people of the country and DEMS show you’re not afraid of this deranged clown car driver . a good thing is for the DEMS it will be the truth . and one knows the KING CLOWN will come back on his childish tweeter account and act the deranged child minded clown he is . if the DEMS do this enough thy and we all know the DUMPSTER cant let these things go. so he will show the fool he is and act the idiot he is for all to see (and already know ) who knows it might even bring some life to his brain dead followers and thy will open their eyes and see DONNY DUMP as just the addicted junky seeking his FIX OF ATTENTION . (yes its a slim chance any of his brain dead followers can ever have life put back into their brain dead pea minds ) but who knows there might be the straw that breaks the camel’s back .

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  13. Jmz Nesky March 13, 2017

    “Fully 68 percent of Americans want to keep what works and fix the rest”

    Truly the pubs wallow in self-serving selective decisions.. Just like their orange coated leader who thrives on fantasies they too are riding on the belief that the other 32% are the majority.

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