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There’s an adage that perfectly captures the Republicans’ conundrum on Obamacare: Watch what you pray for; you may get it. Having spent the past five years viciously battling the Affordable Care Act, GOP leaders are worried that the U.S. Supreme Court may grant them a victory.

If the high court rules in favor of conservatives who have challenged the health care law — essentially gutting it — millions of Americans will lose the subsidies that allow them to purchase health insurance.

They’ll no longer be able to afford to see a doctor. They won’t be able to pay for knee replacements or chemotherapy treatments. They won’t have the money for drugs for hypertension and diabetes.

And they’ll be furious — just in time for the 2016 presidential election. Now that so many people have reaped the benefits of access to medical care, they want to keep enjoying them. They will be fighting mad if their health insurance is suddenly taken away.

That’s because the Affordable Care Act is doing exactly what it was designed to do. Consider a report from the highly respected RAND Corp. — a nonpartisan research group — which issued its latest judgment on the Affordable Care Act in May.

Its study found that nearly 17 million people now have health insurance because of Obamacare. In addition, families may keep adult children on their policies until age 26. There are no longer “lifetime caps” that limit the amount of money insurers will spend on the chronically ill. Patients are no longer turned down for health insurance because they are already sick.

“The Affordable Care Act has greatly expanded health insurance coverage, but it has caused little change in the way most previously covered Americans are getting health insurance coverage,” said Katherine Carman, who, according to a RAND press release, was the study’s lead author. In other words, the law didn’t wreak havoc on those who already had health insurance, as its critics had predicted.

It has slowly dawned on some Republican leaders that the law has provided tangible benefits to millions of Americans, and that they are likely to be blamed if those benefits are jerked away. But they have locked themselves into a very small room and lost the key. They can’t seem to find a way out.

President Obama noted the GOP’s intransigence in a speech to the Catholic Health Association a few days ago. “Once you see millions of people having health care, once you see that all the bad things that were predicted didn’t happen, you’d think that it’d be time to move on. It seems so cynical to want to take coverage away from millions of people,” he said.

But leading GOP officials have taught their aging base, many of whom are Medicare recipients, that the passage of Obamacare was tantamount to a communist takeover. Republican politicians have insisted for years that the Affordable Care Act would corrupt the health care system, ruin the economy and pave the way for a dictatorship. Now, they’d have a hard time persuading those voters, especially the Tea Partiers, it was all just extreme partisan rhetoric.

This latest high court challenge, King v. Burwell, is itself a symbol of Republicans’ determination to strip health care away from millions of Americans. (It’s also a sign of the partisanship that has overtaken the nation’s highest court, which should never have accepted the case.) It’s a frivolous suit that turns on the interpretation of four words in the statute — even though it’s perfectly clear what Congress meant.

If the court agrees with the challenger, chaos will ensue. The GOP will have to take responsibility for finding coverage for millions of people, although its fractious caucus is unlikely to agree on a fix.

Given the stakes, there are undoubtedly those among GOP elders who want the U.S. Supreme Court to maintain the status quo, even if they won’t say so publicly. After all, as Obama put it, “This isn’t … just about the Affordable Care Act. … This is now part of the fabric of how we care for one another. This is health care in America.”

Let’s hope at least five justices concur.

(Cynthia Tucker won a Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007. She can be reached at cynthia@cynthiatucker.com.)

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Cynthia Tucker Haynes

Cynthia Tucker Haynes, a veteran newspaper journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner, is a Visiting Professor of Journalism and Charlayne Hunter-Gault Distinguished Writer-in-Residence at the University of Georgia. She is also a highly-regarded commentator on TV and radio news shows.

Haynes was editorial page editor of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper for 17 years, where she led the development of opinion policy. More recently, she was that newspaper’s Washington-based political columnist. She maintains a syndicated column through Universal Press Syndicate, which is published in dozens of newspapers around the country. Besides winning the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007, Haynes has also received numerous other awards, including Journalist of the Year from the National Association of Black Journalists.

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102 Comments

  1. Grannysmovin June 13, 2015

    GOP Legislators and Republican Justices are the “Death Panels” the GOP kept saying the ACA had. They aren’t box in a corner – they don’t give a damn.

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  2. jmprint June 13, 2015

    I am one of those that will lose big. My insurance will go from $756.00 a month to over $1300.00. And they will be hearing from me very loudly if it happens. I will be calling, and calling and writing and writing and emailing and emailing and posting and posting until all the republicans in the senate get cauliflower ears.

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    1. flyinjs June 13, 2015

      So will I my friend, insurance premiums are predicted to also more than double. What really hurts is there is no alternative from the GOP even for Pre-existing conditions? Is that not cruel.

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    2. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

      I sure hope that equates to applying your size (?) to their gluteus maximus with sufficient force that would result in rapidly propelling them from office on all levels of government.

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      1. jmprint June 13, 2015

        I’m praying it is that.

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    3. mk4524 June 15, 2015

      Was there any changes in your coverage?

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      1. jmprint June 16, 2015

        No changes same deductible $2500.00, even better coverage. Just used my ACA. Five years ago I had a colonoscopy done and had major polyps, that were, very aggressive, the Dr. said if I had waited any longer I would have had full blown cancer. He recommended that i have them done every three years, but I didn’t have insurance until last year, and finally got around to getting it done again. Everything went smoothly I paid less then before, because of the preventative nature. Thank God no polyps and thank Go for ACA.

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  3. adler56 June 13, 2015

    I believe right wing Republicans have lost their right to live in this country. They would be more at home in countries run by religious fanatics like Iraq, iran, Syria or Afganistan

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  4. Lake girl June 13, 2015

    If the 17 million people lose the ability to pay for insurance at rates based on their income, then they will just not have insurance and everyone will pay for them. Under Obamacare these people are paying something for their healthcare.

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    1. Dominick Vila June 13, 2015

      The greatest dichotomy of the GOP claims is that they are essentially encouraging a return to the days when millions of Americans depended on free Emergency Room care to survive, and when preventive medical care was limited to those who could afford it. As for the 47% who could not afford some of the most basic necessities to survive…ask Mitt.

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  5. Dominick Vila June 13, 2015

    After six years of relentless attacks against the Affordable Care Act, and the demonization of all social programs, since Social Security became law, the GOP has no choice but to stick by their guns, or they risk losing credibility and enraging those who believe that anything that helps the poor and the middle class, the elderly, the handicapped, and the young is evidence of evil socialism and must be opposed and destroyed. The only thing that is missing from their discourse is an alternative. Could it be that they believe the general public is not yet ready for Sarah’s death panels. Given enough time, many of them may conclude that a cyanide pill is much cheaper than a pension or subsidies, and that such expeditious option would allow them to save enough money to buy the latest cell phone or go on an Alaskan cruise. The operative word, besides lack of humanity, is greed.

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    1. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

      Dominick the GOP has not cared about credibility since President Eisenhower and their base will believe WHATEVER they are told. No matter how ridiculous it might be.

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  6. Karen Bille-Golden June 13, 2015

    Perhaps there are enough Justices in the pocket of the GOP/TP to realize those “death panels” are about to work against them and bring a slow, lingering death to their party. Can they be counted on to be that smart?

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  7. Eleanore Whitaker June 13, 2015

    Since the male dominated GOP party lives in tiny little arcane boxes anyway, they are always out of touch with the rest of the country. Why would ANY voter want these insular men in charge of decisions that affect the multitudes of Americans?

    The GOP men do nothing but demonize the poor, women, minorities and then have the gall to demand we allow Big Insurance to bankrupt all of us for no reason other than greedy HMO CEOs?

    Remember when the CEO of Healthcare South got caught with his hands in the till? He used premiums his customers paid for. What would make anyone think AIG, Aetna, Prudential or any of the rest of the trough feeders aren’t doing the same thing AND getting away with it?

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    1. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

      Eleanore Whitaker do you remember what the informed voters in Florida did when the head of Columbia/HCA resigned amid a controversy over the company’s business and Medicare billing practices?
      They elected him Governor.
      TWICE!!!
      You can’t fix stupid and democrats just don’t show up at the polls in numbers that would counteract it.

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      1. jmprint June 13, 2015

        I kind of think that is where we fail ie, we don’t contradict their lies.

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      2. Eleanore Whitaker June 14, 2015

        I have relatives in the Panhandle of Florida and Orlando. I also have friends in northern Florida. The problem in Florida is what it is in all red states. If what these relatives and friends tell me is true, the elected officials in Florida use a tactic Gypsy Rose Lee made famous: “Give just enough to keep them coming back for more.”

        So when red state voters are used to only the scraps, the believe their politicians are giving them the gold when it is more like iron pyrite (Fools’ Gold).

        The real divide in the US today is more one of demographical culture. People north of the Mason Dixon line in blue states stare in awe at how far back people in red states speak, act and think.

        This is not a coincidence. Look at where the country’s top schools are located. MIT? Yale? Harvard? Princeton? It speaks volumes of how red state politicians knowingly keep their state residents under control by limiting their access to higher paying jobs and highest quality education.

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        1. TheSkalawag929 June 15, 2015

          I understand what you are saying. I live in Georgia. The so called conservatives here think that when their leaders are talking about people being lazy and takers they’re only talking about liberals and minorities. They don’t think about that they are doing the same exact thing they accuse others of doing. It’s always the other guy that’s the bad guy.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker June 15, 2015

            Georgia is one of my favorite southern states..It is picture perfect lovely. But, and here’s the “but” …When I visited Macon several decades ago, it was obvious that not much had changed for the poor “folk” who lived in the rural areas.

            I don’t blame the people who unwittingly get shafted by the conservatives. Once you consider how finely honed the conservative art of double speak is, you’d have had to be a Republicans for decades to see how easy it is to dupe others and all they have to do is use a choice of words with “2” or more meanings.

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          2. TheSkalawag929 June 16, 2015

            What you say is true. It’s a shame that it’s so hard to break through the bubble they’re in.

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  8. FireBaron June 13, 2015

    Here is the part that I love. The loss of subsidies (if Roberts and company do what Sarah Palin wants) will affect Republican Controlled states. Hopefully these people will remember that when time comes to go to the polls and elect their state legislators, Congress members and Senators.

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  9. InformedVoter June 13, 2015

    What a crock of hogwash! There will be no voter backlash against the GOP when the SCOTUS rips out the guts of the ACA. If anything, the voters will strike back at the Dems for passing a law not knowing what was included. Pelosi’s famous words about having to pass the ACA to see what’s in it will come back to haunt the Dems. The GOP will play up the fact that the Dems had no idea of what they were doing. Add to this the fact that in most states the insurance rates are going to increase by double digits (after last year’s 9+% increase) and it won’t take long for folks to see how bad the ACA has turned out to be. And the 17 million “new” insured is a bogus number. If one nets out the millions that lost their insurance because of the ACA (not to mention lost wages from having their work hours reduced) and the number of uninsured is about the same as before the ACA took affect.

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    1. flyinjs June 13, 2015

      I really do NOT think so. 2016 will be very bad for republicans, no matter what you think. You need Democrats to vote for a republican president don’t ever forget that!

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      1. InformedVoter June 13, 2015

        The percentage of voters who align with conservative ways is larger than the percentage that leans left. Republicans don’t need Dems to vote Republican to win elections. How else can you explain that more states have GOP Governors, etc. In fact, if you examine red/blue states, more states are red. The ACA will be a non-issue. The Dems are grabbing at anything to get over the landslide losses in the last election.

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        1. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

          “How else can you explain that more states have GOP Governors, etc.”
          Can you say gerrymandering, voter suppression and disenfranchisement?

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        2. jmprint June 13, 2015

          They are using government funds in their own exchanges. You have three classes of voters in your pocket, the ultra rich, the false christians, the KKK, the gun toters.

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          1. Bob666 June 13, 2015

            That was four that you listed.

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    2. atc333 June 13, 2015

      You wish. Same old Faux News Entertainment talking points. Corporate America was already cutting full time hours to eliminate benefits long before Obamacare came along, just as Blue Cross was increasing health care premiums 10 to 30% annually.

      How about some documentation for you claim: “and the number of uninsured is about the same as before the ACA took affect.” Dream on.

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      1. InformedVoter June 13, 2015

        Talk about misinformed! The ACA was to not only stop the large premium increases, but Obama even claimed that folks would realize $2500 in savings! So the ACA becomes a reality and premiums continue to climb as before? And what about the 10 million fulltime workers who became part-time because of the ACA? The number of uninsured people remains the same and even MSNBC admits that.

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        1. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

          Your life must be totally blissful because you are undeniably ignorant.

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          1. mk4524 June 15, 2015

            on the contrary, I’m just not a bitter old man who is suffering from depression and only see the bad in the world.

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        2. jmprint June 13, 2015

          Were you personally affected and how?

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          1. mk4524 June 15, 2015

            Yes, I was personally affected. My son hit 22 just as the ACA was passed and suddenly I could include him in my policy. He’s a graduate student in one of the STEM fields — a field our nation needs. He’s 26 and was able to go on the exchange and get his own policy with Anthem Blue Cross. Worked for us and it was really affordable.

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        3. hicusdicus June 14, 2015

          Affordable care act? Affordable for who? What a con job Americans got laid on them.

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          1. jmprint June 16, 2015

            Liar is back to spew lies.

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        4. mk4524 June 14, 2015

          Guess you’re tight, prior to ACA, there had Never ever been annual price increases.

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        5. atc333 June 14, 2015

          You really need to change your handle to “MisinformedVoter:”.

          http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/10/news/economy/obamacare-uninsured/index.html

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          1. InformedVoter June 14, 2015

            My facts are correct. Premiums continue to increase just as much as they did before the ACA was passed. The number w/o insurance is the same as before the ACA passed. All we did was go another 2 trillion in debt.

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          2. atc333 June 14, 2015

            You obviously did not bother to read the CNN link, and obviously you do not comprehend that Obamacare did not add 2 trillion to the Federal Debt.

            As someone once said, you are welcome to have your own opinion, but you cannot have your own set of facts.

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          3. InformedVoter June 14, 2015

            Oh, I read it. I can’t believe you’d fall for the made up survey’s that are based upon interviews with people leaving a doctor’s office instead of examining the numbers that the insurance companies provide. The fact that you are among the thimbleful of watchers of CNN should have told me you lead a very sheltered knowledge base. And, YES, if one looks at the projected costs of ACA, the amount is greater than 2 trillion.

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          4. atc333 June 14, 2015

            Interviews with people –Isn’t that what all surveys are based upon?

            How about some documentation for the information that insurance companies provide? It is easy to make up facts. which many right wingers like to do. How about getting specific?

            Finally, my reading and sources are far more varied than just CNN.

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          5. InformedVoter June 14, 2015

            Interviews to determine the number of folks who have insurance is unbelievably inaccurate. The major insurance companies, the ones raising their rates by double digits, claim the large increases are needed because the number who signed up was less than projected. CNNs numbers were created by adding those who had to register multiple times because the signup software was not working.

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          6. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

            YAWN!!! The Donald should take some extra lessons from you on how to bore an audience to tears.

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        6. mk4524 June 15, 2015

          10 million? Calling your bluff, where did you get that number?

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          1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

            He pulled it out of a hat doing parlor tricks for the kiddies.

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        7. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

          OK, its time to get wheeled back to your room. Let someone else use the computer now, pretty please? All you’re doing is regurgitating some conversations you overheard.

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          1. InformedVoter July 25, 2015

            Are you denying that Obama was quoted (many times) that we’d see a $2500 reduction in our medical premiums? And now the average work week has been reduced to 29.5 hours because of the ACA.

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        8. dpaano August 14, 2015

          And, what about we taxpayers who no longer have to subsidize people going to the ER for a head cold and can’t pay for it?

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    3. Polana June 13, 2015

      Why then Israel have the best health care in the world on our dime?? I have ins. through my employer and each year my premium goes up and up and can’t insure my husband because of pre existing cond. ( heart) or my premium will
      be my weekly paycheck. My employer contributes 50% and still looking for a cheaper ins. to buy so he can save money and so are the employees. No luck. Per our state law if U have less than 50 employees U don’t have to provide ins. and it looks like few people will be gone.Then ACA will be our only hope. If ACA is gone it will be all taxpayer including U paying for all of us. It’s all politics. If U don’t like ACA then give up your social security – it’s also socialistic program.
      Ignorance is a bliss.

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      1. InformedVoter June 13, 2015

        What does Israel have to do with the ACA or social security for that matter? NOTHING! Many would prefer to not have to pay into SS or Medicare, as they know they can get a much better return on investment themselves. But the Dems forced SS/Medical on the taxpayers, just like they’re trying to do with ACA. Obama repeatedly said the ACA was not a tax, but a penalty. The SCOTUS said the opposite so the ACA was constitutional (not necessarily good). The Dems pushed through a terrible law and in their haste, violated the laws. The SCOTUS hopefully will correct that. And thanks for proving my case by stating that in your state, if you have fewer than 50 employees … Where would the incentive be for your employer to grow their company – hire more people, etc? In fact, the ACA provides just the opposite – as I claimed. The ACA good legislation? NOT!

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        1. jmprint June 13, 2015

          The top 10% should have to worry about their insurance going up.

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        2. atc333 June 14, 2015

          ” Obama repeatedly said the ACA was not a tax, but a penalty”.

          No, he did not. He was referring to the penalty for not having insurance, private, or Obamacare, in other words, running naked.
          Check your facts please.

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          1. InformedVoter June 14, 2015

            My facts are correct! Obama DID say that it was a penalty if you didn’t follow the rules. The GOP said it was a tax. The SCOTUS ruled that Obama was WRONG, it was tax. If the SCOTUS had determined it was a penalty, the ACA would have been ruled unconstitutional. Regarding CNN, those idiots showed how they manipulate numbers to bolster their ideas. Last week, the unemployment number rose from 5.4 to 5.5 and the CNN idiots said “this was a sign that the economy, unemployment and wages were improving”. They used the same stupid logic to claim that the number of uninsured is going down, because they refuse to net out those who lost their insurance because their employer reduced their hours or those that had their insurance cancelled because the ACA said it didn’t fit the model.

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          2. dpaano August 14, 2015

            I suppose, then, that we should believe number that come from FOX New???

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        3. mk4524 June 15, 2015

          Why was GWB trying to privatize Social Security? I could see it, when GWB left office, the stock market took a nose dive and that would have really hurt a lot of people depending on Social Security. But again, the conservative response is that if they can’t afford to live, then should die.

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      2. mk4524 June 15, 2015

        There’s another conservative solution posted — no more emergency care if you don’t have insurance or can pay for it. I think they’re saying if you can’t pay for your emergency care, you die.

        Would Jesus do that?

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        1. dpaano August 14, 2015

          Evangelical Christians think so…….they are an embarrassment to real Christians!!

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    4. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

      InformedVoter, which in this case is a misnomer, you are just the kind of ignorant myopic person I was referring to in my comment above. There are far too many of you.

      John Cleese best describes your kind of voter here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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      1. InformedVoter June 13, 2015

        Let me get this straight: the court declares a law as unconstitutional or having illegal language and you think the voters will blame the people who filed the suit? Tucker is incorrect – folks will and should blame the Dems for giving them false hopes that they’re going to get even more handouts. The only ones who might blame the GOP are the ones already on the public take, and historically, these folks don’t vote.

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        1. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

          Here is what you need to get straight. If the Supreme Court sides with the plaintiffs in that out of the thousands of words that go to make up the ACA four words taken out of context and contrary to the intent of the Congress define the Law then yes the millions who lose their health insurance will be right and justified in blaming those who brought the suit and the republican party for backing them.
          It isn’t false hope or a handout that Democrats gave to the millions of uninsured. It was something real and tangible and a hand up.
          Yes the people who will blame the republicans are going to be the millions who are now able to afford and buy health insurance but if the court sides with the plaintiffs they wont be able to.
          A better question to ask might be “What do republicans have to offer if that happens?”
          The answer is they have NOTHING.

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        2. jmprint June 13, 2015

          Intent is good enough for the law.

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    5. jmprint June 13, 2015

      Both the republicans and the democrats have had plenty of time to look over it, and Ted Cruz definitely did with his lawsuit. I guarantee you there will be backlash, you may not be touched by it, but someone you know will. Why do you guys alway speak as if you have forgotten that the insurance rates were already sky rocketing, along with medication cost rising. If ACA has issues let’s fix it, but my tax dollar along with another 17 million who otherwise cannot be insured are happy and glad to have it.

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    6. dpaano August 14, 2015

      Dreamer! It’s funny because the original ACA was written by a Republican think tank….the GOP is just pissed because President Obama got the credit for instituting it and they didn’t….it has nothing to do with the actual ACA!

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  10. atc333 June 13, 2015

    Perhaps the GOP’s Red States could initiate legislation for emergency voter purges, more redistricting, and tighter voter ID requirements before the 2016 election. Lets see now, how many millions of voters will have to be disenfranchised………..

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  11. Bud Friend June 13, 2015

    Their biggest problem will be the 2016 election if the SC rules against the ACA.

    Smart people should have figured that out.

    You know the republicans can only criticize. Never a solution. Very sad.

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    1. 1standlastword June 14, 2015

      Politicians solve problems for the moneyed. That would be chiefly and completely the republican tact while it remains an option for democrats

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  12. geraldhoey June 13, 2015

    I rear that the Republicans will not suffer a huge backlash if SCOTUS guts Obamacare. Most of the Tea party crowd are already voting against their interests and I fear that they are so ignorant that one more Republican atrocity against the poor, elderly and middle class will just slip by them. You know Fox News will keep up their torrent of lies and their elderly white audience will eat it up. If everyone started actually voting their economic interests, Republicans would never win another election. But they pander to the single issue voters. If you’re a gun nut, you vote Republican. If you’re staunchly anti-choice, you vote Republican. Racists will vote Republican. If you’re a climate change denier, you vote Republican.

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    1. 1standlastword June 14, 2015

      It’s because most republicans are Christians and the (G)reedy (O)ld (P)ricks exploit the faith of these simpleminded folks. They believe “all” social progressive-liberals are Satanists so never stand with those democrats on anything. They’d rather roast in HELL on Earth looking forward to salvation in the afterlife than do anything “rational” that might help their chillren and fellow humans…I’m afraid they are going to be sorely disappointed!!!!!!!!!

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  13. TheSkalawag929 June 13, 2015

    Ms. Tucker writes her piece as though republicans care. They don’t.
    If republicans get the ruling they desire, that is the gutting of the ACA, they will turn around rewrite history and blame it on President Obama.
    The truly sad thing about it is that there are enough people that will let them get away with it.

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    1. 1standlastword June 14, 2015

      That’s because our country is packed full of brain dead partisans!!!

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      1. TheSkalawag929 June 15, 2015

        And a lot of democrats that do a lot of complaining but don’t show up at the polls.

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        1. 1standlastword June 15, 2015

          Ignorance on one hand and apathy on the other!

          The corporate gangsters and their benefactors see that Americans are an easy lot to rob and slaughter!

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          1. TheSkalawag929 June 16, 2015

            Too True.

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  14. Whatmeworry June 13, 2015

    25% of those that have Obamacare can’t afford to see a Dr. The GOP’s alternative to Obamacare will control costs. Starting with an end to trial lawyers taking $400B a year from the system

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    1. Bob666 June 13, 2015

      Yea, you drank the Kool-Aid!

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    2. Whatmeworry June 14, 2015

      25% of those morons that have Dankettercare can’t afford to see a Dr. The GOP’s
      alternative to Dankettercare will control costs. Starting with an end to
      trial lawyers contributing $400B a year from the system

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      1. 1standlastword June 14, 2015

        You might be right about something but you sound confused!

        You say above that trial lawyers are “taking$400b” and you say here they are “contributing $400b a year ‘from’ the system”

        Just give us your source so we can read it and get a clear understanding of what you’re trying to say

        Thanks

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        1. Whatmeworry June 14, 2015

          I goggled it and read it on the internet

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          1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

            “Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet” is Rule # 1 for clear and effective thinking. Your “goggles” are fogged up, by the way.

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    3. mk4524 June 14, 2015

      Just what exactly is the GOP alternative, please spell it out for me.

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      1. Whatmeworry June 14, 2015

        1st order of business Overhaul the tort system so that trial lawyers can’t plunder $400B from the HC System.
        End free emergency care no insurance = go home
        Confiscate the Govt of Mexico’s holdings for the HC costs of their citizens.
        That’s just for starters

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        1. Whatmeworry June 15, 2015

          1st order of business Overhaul the fart system so that trial lawyers can plunder $400B from the HC System.
          Keep free emergency care no insurance = not go home
          Confiscate the Gulf of Mexico’s holdings for the HC costs of their citizens.
          That’s just for starters

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          1. jmprint June 16, 2015

            Talk about parroting.

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          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

            Does Polly want a cracker?

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      2. Whatmeworry June 15, 2015

        1st order of business Overhaul the tart system so that trial lawyers can plunder $400B from the HC System.
        Keep free emergency care no insurance = no go home
        Confiscate the Gulf of Mexico’s holdings for the HC costs of their citizens.
        That’s just for starters

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        1. dpaano August 14, 2015

          “Tart” system….is that something to do with bakeries? I think you mean “TORT” system.

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      3. Allan Richardson June 15, 2015

        Simple. If you can’t find, or you lose, a job with health benefits, you can’t get ANY insurance. If you can’t find insurance and you can’t afford to pay for whatever may be needed to save your life, you die. It creates more FUNERAL JOBS and kills MEDICAL CARE JOBS.

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      4. dpaano August 14, 2015

        They can’t because there isn’t a GOP alternative!

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    4. paulyz June 14, 2015

      You are correct. Here are several very Liberal organizations & a Democrat Rep. Jim McDermott stating this. McDermott states many can’t even access Obamacare because it costs too much. Commonwealth Fund found 31 Million adults underinsured, half had medical debt, including costs, co-pays & deductables. Families USA states 25% of people under Obamacare went without care because they couldn’t afford rising deductables & costs. The Center for American Progress states that employers are so burdened with health costs from Obamacare that they had to shift costs to their employees.

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      1. Allan Richardson June 15, 2015

        They were shifting costs to their employees LONG BEFORE Obamacare.

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        1. dpaano August 14, 2015

          Agreed….I work for a large company, and our health insurance went up 2-3% each year…it’s called “inflation” and the insurance companies had to make their profits off of most of us! The ACA didn’t change my insurance at all….it still went up the usual 2-3% this year as expected. But, it’s a lot better than not having insurance!

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      2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

        There you go again saying nothing, just like the Sacred Cowboy was wont to do, and offering not even a sliver of an alternative. Citing numbers in a vacuum is only smoke and mirrors.

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    5. Whatmeworry June 14, 2015

      Ok, the Ketter family has a histury of morons from generation to generation

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  15. Jeffrey Samuels June 14, 2015

    My forecast is that if ACA is gutted, the republicans will (eventually) agree to a temporary subsidy to ‘cushion’ the change while they claim to figure out a solution. This subsidy will be at the expense of the long term provisions of ACA that make it work. Then they will hold out until the next election in the hopes that they will get an all Republican government that will allow them to rescind it in its entirety.
    So either the program will be permanently gutted and eventually will not have the funding to continue, or the president will veto their ‘compromise’. Either way, they will spin it that the ACA was a failure, and since the Dems didn’t accept their ‘solution’ it is the fault of the Dems that people don’t have insurance.

    No real work on their part will be needed. No real solution will be created. They more or less feel that if you can’t afford health care, getting sick is a sign of laziness and being a ‘taker’.

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    1. 1standlastword June 14, 2015

      And the billion dollar question is why do certain Americans believe they need this kind of representation

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      1. docb June 15, 2015

        All the repubs are really working hard to replace nothing for the people..Especially their base.

        http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/05/17/2015-by-the-numbers-red-states-nearly-twice-as-dependent-on-govt-than-blue-states-images/

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        1. 1standlastword June 15, 2015

          It’s always been the case that where there is republican rule the citizens under their rule fair less well. I’ve called it “pernicious republicanism”.

          As soon as republicans get the presidency America will have a full scale war somewhere on the planet; levels of poverty, sickness and more industrial disasters will increase and for sure there will be another deep severe recession as economic hardship resultant of deregulation is a concept that has come to define pernicious republicanism.

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      2. Eleanore Whitaker June 15, 2015

        Actually, it’s as I previously posted. The GOP and conservatives today are all too skilled in the art of double speak. You can count on it. While they may say one thing that sounds so perfectly acceptable, if you reread it with their more sinister intent, you see how easy it is to be duped by them.

        I was a Republican from 1996 until 2004. I heard as much double speak in that time frame as I thought I could stomach. Worse, is the duplicitous intent behind it.

        A simple phrase like, “We will cut taxes,” sounds so wonderful to the poor and middle classes …until you realize they omitted to complete their thought, “….for the rich and corporations.” See how simple it is?

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    2. Allan Richardson June 15, 2015

      The Republicans are trying to create a jobs stimulus plan for the FUNERAL INDUSTRY by making sure more poor AND middle class people die younger.

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  16. kingartie1 June 15, 2015

    We’re still waiting, in vain, and we will wait until palm trees grow on the moon, before the Republican’ts propose an equitable, reasonable, affordable, accessible, innovative health insurance plan. They have not thought of any alternatives, except one they can IMPOSE as a take-it-or-leave-it pre-ACA plan that once again puts insurance CEOs and their accounting department in charge of our care. That’s their plan. If anyone or any family needing insurance but simply cannot pay 600, 800, 1500 a month, then God has not chosen you, the mechanisms determining the survival of the fittest have not chosen you, your fellow citizens have not chosen you. Die. We don’t need you. Your are surplus to the population. Listen to the song Running the World, by Jarvis Cocker. Says it all.

    This is corporate fascism. They don’t have the testicles or the pathology to come and kill you, but they can do the next best thing. Deny you care, resources, compassion, altruism, a social network, and even deny an explanation about why they deny you. Meanwhile, they rig every one of the rules to take whatever they want for themselves. Does anyone really believe that no conservative Republican’t families in Texas, etc. will somehow enable a crucial abortion for one of their own, or they won’t take advantage of any aspect of any employer-or-government health care plan that they are so rabid to deny to anyone who must be subsidized? This is the Republican’t agenda and philosophy: pillage, hypocrisy, illusion, misinformation, betrayal. A working or middle class vote for them is tantamount to a contribution to efforts to cut the throats of millions of hopeful, hardworking Americans.

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  17. Aaron_of_Portsmouth July 25, 2015

    And like a tortoise in a narrow passageway, they are too slow to figure out how to turn around and correct their error.

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    1. dpaano August 14, 2015

      Because they have NO ideas on what to do and NO plan on how to replace ACA if they ever get it repealed!

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