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Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump attends a church service, in Detroit, Michigan, U.S., September 3, 2016. REUTERS/Carlo Allegri

DETROIT (Reuters) – Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump stepped up his bid to win over minority voters by addressing a largely black church in Detroit on Saturday and calling for a new civil rights agenda to support African-Americans.

As scores of protesters outside chanted “No justice, no peace,” Trump said he wanted to make Detroit – a predominantly African-American city which recently emerged from bankruptcy – the economic envy of the world by bringing back companies from abroad.

Trump separately met with about 100 community and church leaders, his campaign said, in his latest push to peel away minority voters from Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

His outreach to minorities over recent weeks comes as he seeks to improve his chances in the Nov. 8 election and shake off months of offending the sensibilities of black and Hispanic voters with his hard line on immigration and rough-hewn rhetoric.

“I fully understand that the African American community is suffering from discrimination and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right,” Trump said at the church which was half-full. “I want to make America prosperous for everyone. I want to make this city the economic envy of the world, and we can do that.”

His address of over 10 minutes at the Great Faith Ministries International church received moments of applause, including when he said Christian faith is not the past, but the present and the future.

Accompanying Trump to the church was Ben Carson, the former Republican presidential hopeful who grew up in the city and whose childhood neighborhood Trump visited on Saturday.

Trump has argued that his emphasis on job creation would help minority communities in a way that Democrats have failed to. But Clinton has accused Trump of aligning himself with racists.

Opinion polls show Trump has low support among minorities.

“I believe we need a civil rights agenda for our time, one that ensures the rights to a great education, so important, and the right to live in a good-paying job and one that you love to go to every morning,” Trump said.

“That can happen. We need to bring our companies back,” he added.

Emma Lockridge, 63, said as she entered the church that she found his comments about Mexicans and Muslims “hateful.”

“That’s my major reservation with Mr. Trump is how he’s treated those particular sets of people,” said Lockridge, who is retired and an environmental activist.

But she said she also had concerns about Clinton’s support in the 1990s for crime legislation signed by her husband, former President Bill Clinton, which many black Americans say contributed to high incarceration rates in their communities.

Vicki Dobbins, an activist protesting outside, said she was disappointed the church asked Trumpto speak.

“I believe that Trump coming to Detroit is a joke, and I’m ashamed of the pastor who invited him,” she said. “In my opinion, he stabbed everyone in the back.”

(Reporting by Emily Stephenson; Additional reporting by Emily Flitter in New York and Tim Branfalt in Detroit; Editing by Leslie Adler and W Simon)

Photo: Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump attends a church service, in Detroit, Michigan, U.S., September 3, 2016.   REUTERS/Carlo Allegri

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  1. Grannysmovin September 4, 2016

    If we are all brothers and sisters why did you deny them housing because of their race? After the “Central Park Five.” when their conviction was vacated because it was proven they were innocent, you never apologized for your full-page advertisements calling for the teens to be executed, further you maintained your actions were correct and the time and said even if the teens didn’t rape the jogger they were still guilty of doing something at some time. In 2005 you pitched the idea of a white people vs. black people version of the “The Apprentice because as you stated you thought it would be potentially controversial. You Trump refuses to condemn white supremacists. You fail to understand why BLM came into existence or that there are cops who have a racial bias and anger issues and your response to crime in the inner cities is: “Trump Says It’s Time To Give Police Permission ‘To Go And Counter-Attack’ You are a racist who is pandering to an audience to get votes, but for whom you have no respect for or care about.

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    1. Jmz Nesky September 4, 2016

      Don’t feel alone, he doesn’t like many whites either. If you don’t own a hammer & sickle or know how to erect a wooden cross to burn then your useless to him.

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  2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth September 4, 2016

    The photo at top is a study in pathetic behavior and is deplorable. I’m reminded of the minstrels in the South who would ingratiate themselves with the majority element there in order to curry favor and be accepted at the table.

    Many of the Mijikenda in Kenya, who are mostly animist or Christian, convert to Islam in order to gain acceptance and admittance into Swahili society. The Swahili and the Mijikenda come from the same ancestral ethnic group, but the Swahilis developed along a different track as a result of interactions with other coastal and sea-faring folks, and have derived more material benefits than their inland cousins as a result of such interactions.

    The members of this church and its pastor appear to be following the same script. Trump’s intent, as has always been his modus vivendi, is to use them in order to gain something for himself. In his words—“Maybe the only way I’ll get into heaven is to become President”.

    Any junior high school student can smell the hypocrisy in Trump’s hollow gesture. (Maybe, a junior high school student should be appointed to be a replacement pastor.)

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  3. yabbed September 4, 2016

    We saw the empty church. Only a scant few pews were occupied. And the applause was for Christianity and for a Bible verse, not for the person of Donald Trump. He’s a bigot and everyone is well aware of that fact. He reminds us every blooming day of his racism and misogyny.

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    1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

      I watched the video, seemed well attended but I am sure they did not allow just anyone in the building for security reasons…
      I felt Trump’s words were genuine and there was a certain tenderness in the way he spoke. He is wise to bypass the bias media and speak to the black community directly via the interview with the Bishop. I sucked back the tears when Bishop explained the prayer shawl, where it came from and it’s purpose. He also explained that he had fasted and prayer for Trump and over the prayer shawl which resulted in an anointing being transferred on the prayer shawl…draping the prayer shawl on Trump’s shoulders…and the bibles given as gifts to Trump and one for his wife. Wow, what a blessing it was to watch and a blessing to Trump who accepted it all graciously. What a wonderful display of true Godly love and caring and honoring by the pastor and his church. Surely, something shifted in the unseen spiritual realm during the process. I would love to watch the interview when it finally airs. Sadly, the video footage got cut just as the Bishop was going to give Trump the blessing….no matter, it was done!
      The entire event has great spiritual significance for Trump, that is for sure!

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      1. yabbed September 5, 2016

        Surely ye jest.

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  4. itsfun September 4, 2016

    For years I have been reading how the right never reaches out to minorities and is racist. Now, when Donald Trump is reaching out to the minority groups, he is called racist. Kinda damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Maybe the left is just afraid of losing votes.

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    1. Dan S September 4, 2016

      Uh no it’s called pandering. Most people including White Supremacists know it’s all for show. Trump was given a script to follow but deep down we know it’s just words not from the heart. Actions do speak louder than words & until he actually acts like he cares his empty words don’t mean a damn thing

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      1. itsfun September 4, 2016

        You have no idea if he is pandering or not. Most people don’t know it all for show. Have you seen how his approval rate has gone up with Black Americans? He has hired hundreds or thousands of minorities, that is action, not words. How many minorities has Hillary hired. She even pays her females less than her male staff.

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        1. Independent1 September 4, 2016

          All you have to do is look at Trump’s long history of racist acts to show that he’s pandering now, not really meaning what he says:

          From Fortune:

          For the long followers of Trump’s career, however, none of these incendiary remarks are especially surprising. Trump has a long record as a provocateur on matters of race and ethnicity.

          It starts in 1973, when the United States Department of Justice went to court with a discrimination complaint against the Trump family business, which rented apartments across Brooklyn and Queens. Coming from the administration of Richard Nixon, who was hardly a civil rights agitator, the complaint was based on an investigation that found four different Trump employees confirming that applicants for leases were screened by race. One rental agent said Trump’s father had told him not to rent to blacks and that he actually wanted to reduce the number of African Americans in his buildings. Three doormen said they had been instructed to deflect blacks who came to Trump buildings to apply for apartments.

          Though just 26 years old at the time, Donald Trump was already president of the Trump Organization. Rather than work with the government to bring the company into compliance with the law, as the New York apartment king Sam LeFrak had done, Trump retained one of the most notorious lawyers in the country, Roy Cohn, and commence an all-out legal war. Cohn, who had been Joe McCarthy’s chief inquisitor during the senator’s witch hunt for communists in the government, filed a $410 million lawsuit against the federal government and smeared the justice department attorneys with terms such as “storm troopers” and “Gestapo.” Trump complained in the press of “reverse discrimination” and alleged a “nationwide drive” to force landlords to “rent to welfare recipients.”

          For more, go here:

          http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

          If you believe Trump is being honest now, you’re a fool!!!!!!

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        2. Dan S September 4, 2016

          I honestly can’t speak to how much Hillary pays females on her staff. What I do know is Mr. Trump pays nada to anyone who works for his campaign male, female or minorities. And yes just about everyone knows Trump is pandering & reading from a script. And his approval rating with blacks is still in the single low digits & I doubt very much he’ll ever win their support. This of course includes Muslims & Latinos.

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          1. itsfun September 4, 2016

            Her personal staff not the campaign staff.

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          2. Independent1 September 4, 2016

            No! He’s not paying his campaign staff.

            From politicalwire.com

            Donald Trump “has run an unusually cheap campaign in part by not paying at least 10 top staffers, consultants and advisers, some of whom are no longer with the campaign,” Reuters reports.

            “The New York real estate magnate and his allies have touted his campaign’s frugality, saying it is evidence of his management skills. His campaign’s spending has totaled $89.5 million so far, about a third of what Democratic rival Hillary Clinton’s campaign has spent. But not compensating top people in a presidential campaign is a departure from campaign finance norms. Many of the positions involved might typically come with six-figure annual paychecks in other campaigns.”

            https://politicalwire.com/2016/09/03/trump-not-paying-his-top-campaign-staff/

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    2. Alton James September 4, 2016

      Why now? He did not reach out during the primaries so why now? I’ll tell you why because his new handlers tell him he cannot win without minority vote. Trump is a fraud period.

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      1. itsfun September 4, 2016

        Why not now? If he is only saying these things to win votes, then I will have no respect for him. I value honesty in a President more than anything else. Not being honest is the main thing I have against Hillary. After reading the FBI interview made public, I also have to wonder if she is healthy. She used can’t recall or don’t remember something like 40 times in that interview.

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        1. Bill P September 4, 2016

          So honesty in a candidate is your biggest criteria for backing someone. Here’s are some of Trump’s claims that are shown to be untrue.

          Trump claimed the NFL sent him a letter complaining about the debates being on 2 Monday nights. NFL states it never sent a letter to Trump. Truth or lie on Trump’s part?

          Recently Trump stated he never spoke with Putin, around a year ago he claimed to have spoken with Putin directly and indirectly. Stated Putin was brilliant. Truth or lie on Trump’s part?

          A week or so ago Trump claimed to have spoken with a top police officer in the Chicago police force regarding “tough police tactics. The Chicago Police Department denied Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s claim this week that he met with a “top” Chicago officer. Truth or lie on Trump’s part?

          In a commercial for Trump “Faux” University Trump claimed he hand picked all of the instructors. After a number of class action suits were filed against Trump “Faux” University he claimed he had nothing to do with the instructors. Truth or lie on Trump’s part?
          I can go on and on with lies, non-truths, mis-speakings , etc. that Trump has made in speeches and interviews. It seems that he has a serious problem with the truth.

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          1. itsfun September 4, 2016

            Where did I ever say I support Trump?

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          2. Independent1 September 4, 2016

            You insinuated it by claiming Hillary is dishonest even though you’re clearly dishonest yourself in making that assessment based on clearly bogus ‘notes’ supposedly taken by some stooge of a rabid Republican named Comey.

            You really don’t believe those notes are valid do you? But how would you suggest that HIllary go about disputing them without possibly making herself look even worse?? Something Comey counted on when he fabricated them.

            Comey’s such a lowlife that just like Faux News fabricated the whole Benghazi fiasco, Comey is now fabricating Hillary’s comments made to just another lying right-wing stooge in the FBI!!!

            There was only one reason for the FBI releasing those bogus notes – no one asked for them. Comey did it intentionally just to make Hillary look as bad as he could – and of course, just like Faux News fabricated emails supposedly sent by the White House on Benghazi to substantiate lies they were; telling Comey made sure these bogus notes made Hillary look as bad as possible. You right wingers-have no integrity whatsoever.

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          3. Bill P September 5, 2016

            Where did I claim that you support Trump?. What I wrote was “So honesty in a candidate is your biggest criteria for backing someone.” Here’s are some of Trump’s claims that are shown to be untrue.” You wrote that “Not being honest is the main thing I have against Hillary.” I just stated that Trump has been shown to lie on numerous occasions. As for who you support you have 4 choices Hillary, Trump, Gary Johnson and Jill Stein. The last two are third party candidates and not really viable. So you will either vote for Hillary (though your comments seem to rule her out), Trump or not vote for a president.

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          4. itsfun September 5, 2016

            I will vote for the lesser of two evils.

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          5. Bill P September 5, 2016

            And who is the lesser of 2 evils. From your past comments it doesn’t sound like your choice will be Hillary so that leaves, guess who!

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          6. itsfun September 5, 2016

            I believe in the secret ballot. I guess you don’t.

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          7. Bill P September 6, 2016

            You have the gift of misinterpreting things I write! I never who you voted for? I asked who is the lesser of 2 evils. That means who you are currently supporting. Since I don’t know who you are I will never know who you are voting for but you make statements then back away from answering.

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          8. itsfun September 6, 2016

            I am not backing away on anything, I said I believe in the secret ballot.

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          9. Bill P September 7, 2016

            You love to make innocuous comments. Your claim of voting for the lesser of 2 evils is a typical non-answer. Since you have written nothing but negative comments about Hillary that would make Trump the lesser of two evils.

            By the way I still haven’t heard back from you about your claim that the Liberal press didn’t write any articles on the released FBI interview.

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          10. itsfun September 7, 2016

            Neither you or I or any American citizen has to tell anyone who we are voting for. If you don’t believe in the secret ballot, you can tell everyone who and what you vote for. I couldn’t care less.
            Do you mean articles like the ones that praise her for the FBI interview and say how she did nothing wrong:

            http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/msnbc-confirms-hillary-clinton-will-face-any-charges-in-email-inquiry/25073/

            I have done more than one search and don’t find any liberal press writing about how bad the interview looks for Hillary, just how much she gets picked on.

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          11. Bill P September 8, 2016

            No one has ever stated that you “have” to tell people who you are voting for. You take a comment by someone else and then make a leap to “you don’t believe in the secret ballot”. Polls always ask who you will vote for but you have anonymity.
            You claim to have done more than 1 search about the FBI interview of Hillary Clinton and didn’t find any writing about how bad the interview was. I found over 5 articles on the NY Times and Washington Post websites that report the results of the FBI interview in anything but flatteringly way about Hillary. Try looking at these newspapers websites for articles on the interview.

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          12. itsfun September 8, 2016

            What did you ask for in your search?

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          13. Bill P September 9, 2016

            Why do you ask? Do your own search.

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          14. itsfun September 9, 2016

            I ask because I want to be able to compare apples to apples by making the same search you did.

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          15. Bill P September 12, 2016

            You really are being ridiculous, try searching a liberal newspaper and the FBI interview. Or you could search for “favorable liberal newspaper coverage of the FBI interview with Hillary Clinton”.

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        2. Independent1 September 4, 2016

          You can’t remember something THAT NEVER HAPPENED!!

          And nobody in this world IS MORE DISHONEST THAN DONALD TRUMP!!!!!!!

          A serial liar and con artist!!!!!!

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    3. charleo1 September 5, 2016

      If you’ve been reading for years about the lack of Republican concern, and support for the African American Community, and minorities in general. My question is, why are you still questioning it, with all the evidence pointing to exactly that? The first reason is easy. Because you’re not one of those minorities. Not being reached out to for votes, so much as used as props to scare, or anger White voters into voting the Republican Ticket. So, Nixon’s law and order agenda, or Reagan’s welfare queen story, and Papa Bush’s Willy Horton ads, or, hearing Newt Gingrich call Barack Obama, “The food stamp President,” maybe.

      Or then there’s Donald Trump’s rising to the top of the GOP by heading up the Birther Movement. These are not taken as mere politics, but personal affronts to Black’s dignity as Americans. And if you were Black, I can guarantee you, you’d have put all those questions about Republican outreach to rest a long time ago. It’s for sure something Donald Trump is not going to, “fix,” by coming down to Detroit for an afternoon photo op at a Black Church. Heading up the 98% all White GOP, his David Duke, and Steve King endorsements in pocket, the anti-semite Steve Bannon sitting as his campaign’s Chair. reading a few scripted lines about jobs, while acting concerned. The animosity between minorities, and the Republican Party go much deeper than that. Much deeper that Trump realizes. And that’s just his first problem.

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      1. itsfun September 5, 2016

        I think you missed my point. If Trump doesn’t reach out to minorities he is called a racist. When he does reach out to minorities it is called pandering. Isn’t that a catch 22. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. What race is Ben Carson? What race is David Webb?

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        1. charleo1 September 5, 2016

          Trump’s 1-2% support from African Americans is lower than the GOP’s usual, (Barack Obama aside,) 10% support. So I don’t see berating, or damning Trump’s outreach efforts as an either or, but as a why bother. After the racist campaign he ran to win the primary, what possesses him to think he comes back from that? Low Black IQ? They were all hinging’ to the store, and had not heard of him?
          He’s so charismatic they are going to dismiss 50 years worth of GOP dog whistles pandering to Southern Dixiecrats? Hardly.

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          1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

            Everything is different with Trump. Who cares about the last 50 years. Stop looking to the past, those who do never move into their destiny. Look to the future!

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          2. charleo1 September 5, 2016

            Now I’ve seen Trump before, just using another name. It’s the first thing I noticed. You’re not much of a history reader. It’s why you think Trump is unique, or represents something of the future.

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          3. Independent1 September 5, 2016

            Are you sure you shouldn’t be getting yourself checked out for Alzhiemers?? You clearly are living in a fantasy land just like someone whose memory is totally gone.

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        2. Independent1 September 5, 2016

          Trump trying to reach out to the black community now only goes to show how lacking he is in common sense and really identifying what is important even to his campaign for president. Which should raise questions even in your mind as to just how much Trump really thinks about what is important, and if he became president, do we want someone who doesn’t know what’s important even to the point of having no common sense.

          And I don’t claim to be a political whiz but I’ve seen several stories where many political people with know how, are scratching their heads because Trump is defying all logic with respect to even running his campaign. These are people with vast experience in politics, and Trump is running around claiming that although he has no political experience that somehow he magically has all the answers.

          And even when he’s dealt with leaders from other nations – he’s dealt with them like a bull in a china shop. Is that someone that America needs to run our nation. Someone who refuses to listen to people with experience a field he has never even delved into??

          Should a confrontation come up between America and another nation, do we want a Commander and Chief guiding our armed forces who acts like a bull in a china shop??? Someone who may refuse to listen to advice even from the leaders of our armies????

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          1. itsfun September 5, 2016

            I guess the numbers depend on what you are reading:

            http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/trumps-black-support-explodes-in-biggest-battleground-state/

            ww.thepoliticalinsider.com/trump-gets-unexpected-announceme…

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          2. Independent1 September 5, 2016

            So you post me links to a right-wing slut-rag website called WND and a right-wing politically biased website and you’re expecting me to believe what’s published on those obviously partisan sites!! Really???

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          3. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

            Trump is one who listens, learns and takes advice from the best…

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      2. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

        Sadly most of what you write is plain stupid. Neither of the two candidates are responsible for who supports them and will vote for them. Even evil people have a vote. Hillary Clinton had the father of a terrorist siting right behind her at one of her events, he is jihad connected. He was interviewed afterwards and he praised Hillary to no end. Does that make Hillary what this man is??? Well, neither is Trump a reflection of every one that votes for him.
        It was Hillary Clinton that started the birther movement when she was running against Obama, I remember this clearly. Go back and watch the videos. Many people on the right and the left had legitimate concerns about his place of birth. There is nothing wrong with Hillary or Trump asking Obama to prove his birth place, it is a requirement to run as president and no one is above the law!

        https://youtu.be/KJU37U5_rbc

        https://youtu.be/8FfY-TfH1DE

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        1. charleo1 September 5, 2016

          If you think what I wrote is plain stupid, fine. Then don’t take my view. Take the view of 98% of the African American Community on where they think Mr. Trump’s Birtherism comes from. The fact it was such a damnable lie, and at the same time such a hit with the Right, they made its number one proponent their nominee for President. You don’t get it. It’s not about a birth certificate, it’s about respect.

          Also ask them if they think Trump is serious about their vote. or just casting out a bait-less hook to see if he gets a few unexpected bites. After all, what has he invested? What does he really know about their lives? A little disingenuous pander would cost him what?
          HIs credibility with the White Supremacists? Hardly, as that crowd believes the African American is too stupid to see the insult, and maybe stupid enough to be conned into voting against their own best interests. After all, 3/4 of their own White, poorly educated, and badly misinformed base do it year, after year. So why not the African American?

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  5. Jmz Nesky September 4, 2016

    What we all must understand is that the new advisors Trump recruited is now speaking through him.. The words he’s now saying isn’t Trump words but rather enticing Bretbart manipulations to hoodwink those with short term memories and tell fence sitters what they want to hear.. Truth is, Trump isn’t talking any more, like a ventroliguists dummy he’s repeating what has been told to him but really he doesn’t care one way or the other so long as he is the center of everyone’s attention. Look at his smug face in the picture above and tell me whether it’s derived from the people he’s catering to or a self satisfying euphoria similar to a pinto bean fart.. You decide.

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    1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

      Who are you to say they are not Trump’s words??
      Trump has been reaching out to the Christian community for at least 15 years and already is connected in his mind and heart to the faith community. I attend a majority black church now myself, it took a bit of adjusting at first…and they literally dance as a part of worship. Trump knows he has every camera on him while he is trying to focus on the wonderful atmosphere that praise and worship creates in a church. My assessment is that he is taking it all in and enjoying every moment regardless of the outcome. I am proud of him for doing what so many said he couldn’t or wouldn’t do. Trump makes things happen!

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      1. Jmz Nesky September 5, 2016

        You’re a totally blind idiot! I say Trump’s words have been planted and all I or you have to do (if you weren’t so brain numbed) is to follow his previous speeches on video.. That look on his face isn’t planted because of the praise and worship of the believers but of his visualizing himself in the white house by simply using another type of scam, of convincing the naive that he’s true to their cause and also that every camera is focused on him. Trump makes things happen alright, he makes you believe he’s not the narcissistic bigot everyone pegs him to be then when he speaks in Arizona or some other white dominant section of the nation he’ll get back down and dirty toward minorities just as he did after his Mexico visit concerning them. You can vote for whom ever you want, that will be on your conscience but don’t for a minute tell me I’m wrong for voting who I chose to vote for.. The presumption of such pious behavior isn’t fitting to real Americans. I and many more of us can see through the scams he initiates, mainly because they’re so easy to recognize.

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  6. Dr. Samuel Taddesse September 4, 2016

    I really don’t understand what went down in Detroit. Trump came to visit a black Christian church and came out anointed as a bad rabbi had forgotten to wear his kappah. Regarding a new civil rights agenda, Dr. Ben Carson, Trump’s lapdog and Judge Clarence Thomas, who both were beneficiaries of affirmative action are opposed to affirmative action for other black Americans. The new agenda is going to be no social services in black communities.

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    2. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

      Your comments are an insult to the Christian community and to Bishop Jackson who prayed and fasted over the prayer shawl etc. The spiritual significance of what Bishop did is massive, it results in a shift in the spiritual realm, something that seems to be beyond your understanding. Please refrain from making ignorant comments. Trump was gracious and accepted the shawl and the bibles with gratitude, I am even speechless. This is truly a historic moment for American politics.

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      1. Independent1 September 5, 2016

        Wow!! You really do live in a fantasy land believing that anything one of the world’s biggest conmen has done will ever be considered a historic moment in politics!! What pure BS!! Wow!! You really need to be seen by a shrink!! You’re beyond help.

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  7. Eleanore Whitaker September 4, 2016

    Of course Herr von Trumpenstein wants to make Detroit an “all black city.” That is exactly the same premise Hitler used in his segregation of Aryans from the rest of what Hitler and Trump both consider “inferiors.”

    Sometimes, when money to the head, it causes brain damage.

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  8. Dominick Vila September 4, 2016

    Seeing Trump pretending to be in a state of ecstasy, and dancing in an African American church was so surreal, that the first thing that came to my mind was Michael Dukakis driving a tank, and Mitt Romney pretending to shop for groceries to insinuate that he is an average Joe.
    Seeing Trump reading a scripted paper at that church in Detroit made matters even worse. There was no spontaneity, no evidence of sincerity, and no evidence of empathy. Just an opportunity to score a few political points.
    Last minute conversions, after years of maligning our first African American President, and after demonizing innocent Black who had nothing to do with a crime in Central Park, are driven by the need to gain a few votes, and have absolutely nothing to do with sincerity or commitment. This man is a fraud, and we all know it.

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    1. Insinnergy September 4, 2016

      If anyone votes for Trump based on this “Outreach”… they deserve him as a President.

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      1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

        I think he will do more interviews and make more visits to the black community. The black community is beginning to give Trump a second look. Trump will do things differently than most Republicans have in the past. The fact that he has been told that he will be totally rejected by the black community will not stop him from going directly to them and addressing their issues. The Democrats do not have impressive solutions for the black community’s major challenges.

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        1. charleo1 September 5, 2016

          Trump is a Birther, for Christ’s sake! What about that eludes you? As an obviously very deluded, very enthralled White boy taken in by a raging racist, a White Nationalist, and possible Nazi sympathizer. I’m guessing just about everything about Trump eludes you….Or you’re a member, and know exactly what Trump is all about.

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          1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

            Charleo1, you sound very racist.
            It was Hillary Clinton who first brought up the birther issue when

            she was up against Obama, I remember it clearly. Obama still has many of his records sealed (university), might his application uncover his true status?? It’s all water under the bridge now but Obama is a very secretive person and he brought much of the uncertainty about his status upon himself.
            And, I am neither white nor male. Just goes to prove that you make up things to your convenience.

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          2. Independent1 September 5, 2016

            And there you go fabricating reality again. Obama’s records are not sealed. But colleges DO NOT give out records to just anyone who wants them. The only reason college data came out on Bush 2 is because someone illegally leaked them.

            See this from FactCheck.org:

            Q: Are Obama’s early records “sealed”?

            A: No. Many records that presidential candidates don’t ordinarily release do remain confidential, but they are not “sealed” by a court. The 16 claims in a widely distributed graphic are mostly false or distorted.

            This is an example of mostly old baloney in a new casing. It mainly recycles years-old falsehoods and insinuations, most of which we covered long ago, in connection with an earlier viral email.

            But with President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign heating up, this new graphic has appeared on countless anti-Obama websites and in viral emails like the one we’ve reprinted here. Very little that it contains is new, and the old falsehoods have not improved with age.

            http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/07/Obama_Sealed.png

            http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

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          3. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

            You can twist this anyway you want but Obama could have made the documents public to prove his status but he did not…so that fed the rumors whether true or not.

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          4. Independent1 September 6, 2016

            For what purpose?? Just to appease you nonsensical birthers?? His birth certificate and records of his birth in newspapers in Hawaii proved to anyone with half a brain (which lets you out) that he was American.

            And the problem is, you’re too stupid to realize, that even if he had been born outside America, he would still have qualified to run for president, because his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth who had lived for 5 years past her 14th birthday in America. All qualifying Barak to me a naturalized citizen NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN!!!!!

            And had Obama caved into you nincompoops – all he would have accomplished would have been setting a precedent which no previous president has done – opening up his educational records. NO PREVIOUS PRESIDENT HAS EVER MADE HIS EDUCATIONAL RECORDS PUBLIC!!

            The only reason we know that George Bush was nothing more than a middle ‘C’ student at Yale, is because apparently someone there disliked him so much that they leaked his mediocre educational records!!!!!

            And if Obama had purposely made his educational records public, it would have only opened the door for weasels like you to demand future presidents follow suit – when educational background is not necessarily a predictor of how a president will perform in office. Some of the supposedly smartest presidents have been some of the worst.

            Just look at Herbert Hoover who was supposed to be a business whiz and very smart like the nincompoop named Mitt Romney!!!!! All his supposed smarts and business experience accomplished was driving America into the greatest depression America and the world had ever seen!!!!!

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        2. Dominick Vila September 5, 2016

          Democratic policies during the last half century allowed hundreds of thousands of African Americans to get the education they need to succeed, and gave them equal opportunities after over two centuries of abuse, ranging from slavery to deliberate segregation. Contrary to what Trump is saying, a large segment of the African American population are successful entrepreneurs, artists, professionals, sportsmen, media celebrities, and successful in all fields of endeavor.
          Yes, the African American and Hispanic-Latino unemployment rate is higher than that for whites, and something needs to be done to fill that void, but trying to portray members of an entire ethnic group as dependents on welfare, and unable or incapable of succeeding, is simply not true.

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          1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

            Detroit is in deep trouble…

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          2. Independent1 September 6, 2016

            You mean after right-wing leaning entrepreneurs like Mitt Romney running companies like Bain Capital did everything in their power by trying to destroy it?? By leverage buying up company after company around the city, destroying the companies in America and shipping the jobs overseas??

            If you want to blame anyone for Detroit’s troubles, like many cities around the nation that are struggling because right-wing leaning idiots like Romney were as unAmerican as it gets and worked tirelessly to destroy American jobs, the companies they worked for and shipped not only the companies but also the American now how on how to create the products they produced to China, Mexico and other countries??

            And in the process not only pocketing the what were American companies’ assets but also their pension funds leaving many employees on the verge of bankruptcy?? Many on unemployment just years before retirement when it’s extremely hard to find a job. And of course in the process enriching themselves by also pocketing those pension assets and dumping any future payments for those who could retire on the American taxpayers – that’s you and me.

            And for unAmerican MItt, it wasn’t bad enough lhe did that back in the 1990s before he got himself elected as Governor of Massachusetts where he screwed up the Mass educational system and left the state a couple billion in debt. No!! Mitt was even working to try and buy-out the American auto industry when it was on the rocks, which is why he kept insisting on letting it go bankrupt. Just so he and his hedgefund buddy Singer could buy up even GM and Chrysler and destroy them here in America; thankfully Obama refused to let the companies go bankrupt and saved them such that they’re making more profits today than at any time since another Democrat was in office, Clinton.

            But Mitt didn’t let Obama refusing to let him destroy GM and Chrysler, NO. Mitt, Singer and some other right-leaning UnAmericans went ahead and bought out Delphi, which many of us remember as Delco, and destroyed 25,000 America jobs in that company, and did what I described above: shipped Delphi work initially to China while today it operates in several different countries and instead of 25,000 jobs, not employs over 100,000. But of course, all those jobs are outside of America THANKS TO MITT ROMNEY AND HIS COHORTS!!

            You right-wingers are such vile people, so hateful and so unAmerican -you turn my stomach. All you vile people think about IS MONEY!!!!!! OTHER PEOPLE’S LIVES MEAN NOTHING TO YOU!!!!!!

            And with respect to Detroit, considering the damage that right-leaning corporate pirates did the the city, thankfully it’s progressing in it’s bankruptcy recovery. They accomplished the mission of finding 10,000 people to come in and rework abandoned homes in the city. And the city is rising from the ashes of right-wingers working to destroy it!!!!!!!!!

            Detroit Rising: Life after bankruptcy

            http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/detroit-reborn/2015/11/08/detroit-rising-life-after-bankruptcy/75085252/

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          3. Independent1 September 6, 2016

            And it was right-leaning unAmericans like Romney that were the cause of the Solyndra bankruptcy – it had nothing to do with Bush or Obama. Bush was the first to approve loans to Solyndra when it was trying to gear up to produce it’s patented solar collectors. And Obama even had the loans revetted before his administration approved the loan (Bush had vetted Solyndra too but hadn’t gotten to signing the loan agreement before he left office).

            But it was competition from a flood of cheap solar collectors made in China that sank Solyndra – even though their solar collectors were better, there’s was no way they could compete with the cheap price of the China collectors. And why was China able to produce them?? Because some American corporate pirate had bought out an American solar collector maker, destroyed it in America and shipped the company to China WITH ALL THE AMERICAN KNOW HOW ON HOW TO PRODUCE THOSE SOLAR PANELS!!

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    2. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

      I would read from a script too if I had to make an important speech…Hillary does it all the time. Seems that Trump is wrong no matter how he does things, STOP ALREADY! Let the people decide and think for themselves.

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      1. Independent1 September 5, 2016

        Yeah, but most people who do that, don’t make it obvious that they are reading words they would rather not be saying – making it clear that what they’re doing is being done half-hearted. Only someone totally clueless would believe Trump would ever follow through on what he said in that church.

        And by the way, that goes FOR EVERYTHING Trump is saying right now. Trump HAS A HISTORY of claiming to do a lot of things WHICH NEVER GET DONE – and that includes like paying people for what they do for him and then he screws them!!!!

        So, anyone who believes that should Trump get elected, that any of the many things he’s said and retracted will actually get accomplished IS LIKE I’VE SAID MANY TIMES – LIVING IN THEIR OWN FANTASY LAND!!!

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        1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

          who are you to say that he did not mean what he wrote…I believe you are very wrong simply because you have it against Trump. I don’t know if Trump would make a good president or not but I believe he means what he says…he gave up a lot to run for office.

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          1. Independent1 September 5, 2016

            Maybe you should ask yourself this question too?? Are you just one more American chump?? The Washington Post Editorial Board seems to think so!!

            See thins nitwit!!

            See this from WAPO:

            Donald Trump’s bet: We are all chumps

            By Editorial Board September 4 at 7:43 PM

            AS the presidential campaign enters its final stretch, this seems like a good time to ask: Will American voters allow themselves to be insulted, taken for granted and made fools of?

            Donald Trump seems to be betting that the answer is yes. How else to judge his assumption that he can be elected without sharing basic information? He has released no meaningful health records. He has put forward virtually no serious policy proposals. Unlike every other major-party nominee of the modern era, he refuses to release his tax forms.

            All of these would be essential reading material from any candidate, but the need for disclosure is especially urgent from Mr. Trump. He would be the oldest president ever elected, so his medical history is relevant. Unlike Hillary Clinton and, again, every other modern major-party candidate, he has no record of service in politics or public office by which he can
            be judged, so his policy intentions take on added significance. He has been on so many sides of so many issues that even serious position papers at this point would have limited credibility. But they would be better than nothing.

            Because his claim to the presidency is founded on his claimed success as a businessman, his tax and financial records are particularly salient. Has he really made as much money as he
            boasts? Has he paid taxes? Has he sheltered money in the Cayman Islands, done deals with Russian oligarchs? Who knows? Not the voters — and, as far as Mr. Trump is concerned, there is no need for us to bother our little heads with such matters. As his son Eric said,“You would have a bunch of people who know nothing about taxes” — he means us dumb voters, in case you miss the reference — “trying to look through and trying to come up with assumptions they know nothing about.”

            Ms. Clinton is not always a paragon of candor. But she has released far ore information about her health; far, far more information on her policy goals; and decades of tax returns.

            And here’s one more reason those tax returns matter so much: A taxpayer must attest to the truthfulness of his or her returns, whereas we know that Mr. Trump in many other arenas tells falsehoods. In a book, he boasts of his habit of “truthful hyperbole.” On the campaign trail, he repeatedly lies — Muslims celebrated in New Jersey after 9/11, Mr. Trump did not mock a reporter’s disability — and when confronted with contrary video or documentary evidence simply repeats his fiction. Post reporter David A.Fahrenthold has painstakingly exposed Mr. Trump’s falsehoods when it comes to charitable giving.

            What else is he lying about? We don’t know, you don’t know, and Mr. Trump seems to believe we can all live with that. Can we? It’s a question Americans will have to answer on Election Day.

            Read more:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-candidacy-is-one-giant-insult-to-the-american-electorate/2016/09/04/d3f039b4-7135-11e6-8533-6b0b0ded0253_story.html?utm_term=.42e057298126&wpisrc=nl_opinions&wpmm=1

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    3. Independent1 September 5, 2016

      Dominick, see this Editorial post yesterday morning from the Editors of the Washington Post. It’s their impression that Trump is playing Americans for nothing more than a bunch of chumps!!

      The Post’s View
      Donald Trump’s bet: We are all chumps

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-candidacy-is-one-giant-insult-to-the-american-electorate/2016/09/04/d3f039b4-7135-11e6-8533-6b0b0ded0253_story.html?utm_term=.42e057298126&wpisrc=nl_opinions&wpmm=1

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      1. Dominick Vila September 6, 2016

        Thank you for the link. He is, indeed, taking close to half of our population for a ride, and they don’t seem to mind.

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  9. Nick September 4, 2016

    Mr. Trump will get over 25% of the African American votes. A good projection is 45% through a silent anonymous poll. The media will not report this because only 5% of the African Americans will voice their support for Trump. The remaining is staying quiet in fear of the backlash and the attacks that comes with public support of Trump. As long as Mr. Trump continues to go into the black community he will do well. 45% of the African Americans know that in a good strong economy, African Americans will do better than in a bad weak economy.

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    1. OverthecliffRepublicans September 4, 2016

      Your post belongs on Alex Jones or the Onion.

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    2. Independent1 September 4, 2016

      And another right-winger who is living in La La Land!!! At least you’re getting lots of company in your fantasy land.

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      1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

        Nick is correct, there are many closet Trump supporters for fear of attacks and backlash…

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        1. Independent1 September 5, 2016

          Maybe so. But given the negativism the GOP has created around Hillalry, that works both ways depending on what crowd they associate with. And there are also many people who have gotten themselves caught up in the Trump hoopla and are attending his rallies and may even say they’ll vote for him, but who when the time comes in the voting booth, won’t vote for him.

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  10. Jon September 4, 2016

    Trump has spent years proving that he is a racist and bigot. Since June of 2015 when he announced his candidacy he has consistently shown himself to be a disgusting racist and the new Messiah of white supremacists/nationalists. His proposed tax, economic, social, immigration and gun policies are proof that he doesn’t care about any minority. His last minute conversion to civil rights activist is as cynical as anything else he has done. Trump is a fraud and a phony. His “act” in Detroit was sickening.

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    1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

      Careful what you say…your lies will come back to bite you in the behind…
      His visit to Detroit was amazing, many will be greatly touched.
      The prayer shawl draped over him by Bishop, a true moment in history!

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      1. charleo1 September 5, 2016

        You don’t read much history do you? The Bishop’s name was Wayne T. Jackson. And I believe describing the photo op as “amazing,” was mostly Trump’s, and Trump’s White supporter’s subjective opinions.
        What is always “amazing,’ to witness about Trump, is his capacity for self promotion has no bounds, and no shame.

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        1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

          Sorry, wrong again….AMAZING was my reaction. You have no business telling me otherwise. Have you no shame!
          Trump does not control the actions of Bishop Wayne T Jackson. I am referring to the way he welcomed Trump and honored him in a manner consistent to godly character. He said he prayed and fasted over the prayer shawl that would provide Trump with a anointing he could count on during difficult times. He gave the gift of the two bibles to both Trump and his wife with scripture verses of encouragement. This has nothing to do with Trump. This is the result of the praying and fasting the bishop did for Trump and the fruit of that investment. No bitterness, hatred or trying to pretend he could judge Trump’s heart or motives….

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          1. charleo1 September 5, 2016

            I get it, don’t judge Trump, just let Trump be Trump. How dare I.
            And, after reading a few of your posts, I can understand your attraction to such a person, and proposition as Trump represents to you. As he seems to very much reflect how you view the World, a treat those who would be so bold as to disagree with you! However that works, Mr. “EvenstarMti,” in the other World, the sane one where the reasonable, far less ideological folks live, that represents a fair majority in this big level headed, common sense Country of ours, does not see Mr. Trump as you do. And I hope for your sake, you one day either learn to get used to that, or find a RW NJ Website
            where you’ll be very happy.

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          2. Independent1 September 5, 2016

            Charlie, the Washington Post editors posted a good blog today. They’re saying that Trump is betting that All Americans are nothing more than chumps.

            See this from WAPO:

            Donald Trump’s bet: We are all chumps

            By Editorial Board September 4 at 7:43 PM

            AS the presidential campaign enters its final stretch, this seems like a good time to ask: Will American voters allow themselves to be insulted, taken for granted and made fools of?

            Donald Trump seems to be betting that the answer is yes. How else to judge his assumption that hecan be elected without sharing basic information? He has released no meaningful health records. He has put forward virtually no serious policy proposals. Unlike every other major-party nominee of the modern era, he refuses to release his tax forms.

            All of these would be essential reading material from any candidate, but the need for disclosure is especially urgent from Mr. Trump. He would be the oldest president ever elected, so his medical history is relevant. Unlike Hillary Clinton and, again, every other modern major-party candidate, he has no record of service in politics or public office by which he can be judged, so his policy intentions take on added significance. He has been on so many sides of so many issues that even serious position papers at this point would have limited credibility. But they would be better than nothing.

            Because his claim to the presidency is founded on his claimed success as a businessman, his tax and financial records are particularly salient. Has he really made as much money as he
            boasts? Has he paid taxes? Has he sheltered money in the Cayman Islands, done deals with Russian oligarchs? Who knows? Not the voters — and, as far as Mr. Trump is concerned, there is no need for us to bother our little heads with such matters. As his son Eric said,“You would have a bunch of people who know nothing about taxes” — he means us dumb voters, in case you miss the reference — “trying to look through and trying to come up with assumptions they know nothing about.”

            Ms. Clinton is not always a paragon of candor. But she has released far ore information about her health; far, far more information on her policy goals; and decades of tax returns.

            And here’s one more reason those tax returns matter so much: A taxpayer must attest to the truthfulness of his or her returns, whereas we know that Mr. Trump in many other arenas tells falsehoods. In a book, he boasts of his habit of “truthful hyperbole.” On the campaign trail, he repeatedly lies — Muslims celebrated in New Jersey after 9/11, Mr. Trump did not mock a reporter’s disability — and when confronted with contrary video or documentary evidence simply repeats his fiction. Post reporter David A. Fahrenthold has painstakingly exposed Mr. Trump’s falsehoods when it comes to charitable giving.

            What else is he lying about? We don’t know, you don’t know, and Mr. Trump seems to believe we can all live with that. Can we? It’s a question Americans will have to answer on Election Day.

            Read more:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trumps-candidacy-is-one-giant-insult-to-the-american-electorate/2016/09/04/d3f039b4-7135-11e6-8533-6b0b0ded0253_story.html?utm_term=.42e057298126&wpisrc=nl_opinions&wpmm=1

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          3. charleo1 September 6, 2016

            Our visiting Right Winger “EvenstarM..” an avid Trumper, defending Trump’s phony, and I’m betting short-lived outreach initiative to African Americans, provided a common trope. Trump is different, he said. And that’s why he’s going to be very successful at collecting the Black vote. Or he’s not a politician, and that’s why we love him, and so on… Which is typical of the mile-wide-inch deep “logic” of the anti-intellectual un-sophisticate Donald Trump is counting on to propel him into the WH. On what is essentially an age old platform of ethnocentric Nationalism. One that Trump himself at times has as much trouble articulating, as his dupes understanding it. (Many having never heard of it, at least not in the formal sense of institutionalized Apartheid.) And so have little actual understanding of exactly what it is Trump is proposing. So the by word becomes, “trust me.” The press of course howls, and Trump responds by ranting against their elitism, and liberalism. But to Trump’s faithful, they know not of any of these things. And so, it all becomes a clear case of a mostly blind Trump leading his willfully blind adherents. With those in the know, who do understand such things, and wanting very badly to have them instituted, advising from the background. Or as in the case of Steve Bannon, in the forefront. All seeing in Trump perhaps their greatest and last opportunity to reshape the social, economic, and common law in a way that would allow the installation of such race based extremism. Thus we have this dangerous situation in Trump, where those Authoritarians, Isolationists, White Supremacists, Militarists, Social Conservatives, and yes, Fascists, all see historic opportunities in a know nothing, self preoccupied, extremely vain President, with no less than 3 supreme Court seats in front of him to fill, and a backlog I hear of hundreds of vacancies on a Federal Bench, Mitch McConnell has refused to hold hearings on to fill.

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      2. Independent1 September 5, 2016

        Yeah! What America really needs is a narcissistic hypocrite that is so vile that virtually no leader in the free world outside of dictators leading America’s enemies would ever consider dealing with him in good faith because Trump has 50 plus years of business history showing that he can’t be trusted with anything he promises.

        And a leader who is so narcissistic that should he become president it will still be ALL ABOUT TRUMP AND TO HELL WITH THE COUNTRY!! I’M GOING TO DO WHAT’S BEST FOR DONNIE!!!

        What kind of narcissistic moron are you?? Anyway???

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      3. Jon September 5, 2016

        Hey mfg liar are you threatening me? Bring it on Bozo. You are a total idiotic psycho if you believe anything about conman Donnie’s visit to Detroit was anything more than a poorly staged sideshow. The only thing amazing about it was how fake it looked and how sickeningly cynical it was.

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  11. feathered_head September 4, 2016

    His vision is that Detroit be the manufacturing center of his new “People’s Automobile”.

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    1. Independent1 September 4, 2016

      Ah! The American Volkswagen! There should be one in every driveway!

      A glimpse into yesteryear courtesy of history.com:

      The government of Germany–then under the control of Adolf Hitler of the
      National Socialist (Nazi) Party–forms a new state-owned automobile
      company, then known as Gesellschaft zur Vorbereitung des Deutschen
      Volkswagens mbH. Later that year, it was renamed simply Volkswagenwerk,
      or “The People’s Car Company.”

      To provide the design for this “people’s car,” Hitler called in the
      Austrian automotive engineer Ferdinand Porsche. In 1938, at a Nazi
      rally, the Fuhrer declared: “It is for the broad masses that this car
      has been built. Its purpose is to answer their transportation needs, and
      it is intended to give them joy.”

      Is this a prelude to history that will come for all of us in America?

      http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/volkswagen-is-founded

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    2. DOC September 5, 2016

      Beware of white men barring visions.

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      1. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

        That sounds racist…

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        1. DOC September 5, 2016

          Ask Tom Joyner and they were good friends. Thais not racist it is a fact.

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  12. DOC September 5, 2016

    I guess were not lazy in more? He did say that, blacks are so gobble.

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  13. EvenstarMtl September 5, 2016

    Nick, I believe you got it right.
    There are many closet Trump supporters.

    Reply

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