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On Trump Train, Evangelicals Are The Higher Power

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  1. Critiqui February 10, 2017

    Correction: Betsy DeVos’s & Eric Prince’s father did not found Amway. Richard DeVos, the father or Betsy’s husband Richard DeVos Jr., did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_DeVos

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  2. FireBaron February 11, 2017

    Want to know how the Evangelicals jumped aboard? Simple – he promised to remove the restrictions against their leaders (allegedly “ordained ministers”, whose ordinations causes great skepticism among others – “I was ordained by God” being a typical response) allowing them more freedom in raising monies that do not have to be disclosed to anyone. It is amazing how fast these False Prophets (Franklin Graham, Dollar, etc.) turn to Mammon when the opportunity arises!

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  3. rednekokie February 11, 2017

    Oh, how I long for the return of the House Un-American Activities commission. And I loathed them while they were going full tilt-boogie.

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  4. The lucky one February 11, 2017

    “While private and charter schools do often have better results than public schools” That requires further clarification. The Stanford study shows that yes some charters perform better, but at least as many perform worse and the largest percentage are about the same as public.

    “Stanford University crunched test data from 26 states. About a quarter of charters delivered better reading scores, but more than half produced no improvement, and 19% had worse results. In math, 29% of the charters delivered better math scores, while 40% showed no difference, and 31% fared worse.”

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    1. 788eddie February 11, 2017

      Charter schools are not held accountable for their performance in many states, which seems grossly unfair.

      About the only advantage they hold for the families who use them is that they can help segregate their children from the riff-raff (by economic factors, while taking taxpayer money away from public education.

      If charter schools are to continue, they should be held to the same high standards to which public schools are held.

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      1. The lucky one February 11, 2017

        I agree that all K-12 schools should be held to the same standards. I think what the research shows is that it is how the school is managed, the dedication and skill of the faculty and the resources they have to work with that determines their success whether they are public or charter.

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  5. bojimbo26 February 11, 2017

    Had nothing to do with the church – 45 put Two Pence in to make sure Betsy won the vote .
    ( Trumpy `might` be `born again` , only up until it serves its purpose ) .

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  6. Mama Bear February 11, 2017

    A major point that this article omits is how utterly dangerous these people are to the rest of us. My own brother is one of the more rabid evil-gelicals out there and he also a card-carrying Dominionist. They have been sneaking that worldview into the mix and the ignorant followers don’t notice how absurd and truly dangerous it is. They have been taught that it is not possible to be a Democrat and a “Christian” at the same time. Democrats are totally godless and any candidate from this side of the aisle is against them. They believe that there are two sides and if you are not with them you are against them. It has been their mission for a long time to turn this country into a theology with their version of sharia. Anyone who does not pay attention to them does so at the risk of all of us.

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    1. mary5920 February 11, 2017

      If they didn’t want tax money it would be less hypocritical! I support public education even though I home schooled my 3 kids through high school (there are progressive home schoolers out there)
      We never asked for subsidies. We also did tap into a few high school courses for my older two, such as art and science courses.
      We had a pretty big glimpse into the religious right types who seemed paranoid about the “secular” world. I do think that some of their children will shake off this kind of dogmatic b.s. and not follow the cult though–

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      1. Mama Bear February 11, 2017

        honestly, Mary, I have never heard of a progressive home schooler. May I ask your reasoning for doing it? It does not sound like you were afraid your kids would become too “worldly” or that you did not want them learning about evolution, so I would love to know why you did it. Did you have to qualify by your state as a teacher? Where did your kids get “socialization”? I’m actually fascinated.

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        1. mary5920 February 11, 2017

          I read John Holt’s books back in the 1970s. By the time my oldest was 5, I was interested in doing a “Waldorf” style approach which teaches academics via art, music and rhythm. Didn’t intend to keep going all those years but it was pretty fun and enjoyable. If my hubby wasn’t earning the money we couldn’t have done it, of course. And we were pretty low income but had a home in the country that we had a low mortgage payment (paid off long ago) Very lucky in many ways–and we met some very eclectic type people along the way. My kids are all college grads, daughter has a PHD in chemistry. Didn’t have to qualify as a teacher. Kids learn pretty much what they need to know, if one listens to them and provides access. We spent a lot of time in the public library and with interesting people who knew how to do things.

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          1. Mama Bear February 11, 2017

            I am impressed. Good job; you are one in a million. I have not read your comments on this forum before but am sure glad to are here:)

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  7. Dan S February 11, 2017

    Bad news Trumpie but currying favor with the so called evangelicals is NOT going to help you past St. Peter into the Pearly Gates. Your sins and transgressions against God Almighty are numerous and only you can atone for your sins against everyone you’ve hurt and cheated over your lifetime. I for the life of me don’t know how people could be so blinded by the obvious conman and charlatan you are. If you don’t get your just desserts here on Earth you’ll certainly receive them on Judgement Day

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  8. willardcottrell February 11, 2017

    Christians should be embarrased. However, they are not. Power is the name of the game.. The more they do in the name of “Christ”, the further I run away from the cult. I now believe that the con artist TrumPutin has conned the con of religion.

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  9. 788eddie February 11, 2017

    Well, it looks like those Christian Evan-genitals* are at it again. They should be ignored, because they’re NOT followers of the teachings of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

    *Called that because all they seem concerned about is sex, and how to stop others from enjoying it.

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    1. mary5920 February 11, 2017

      They’re curiously absent from any discussion about helping “the least among us” which was a pretty big deal in Jesus’ teachings.

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  11. pics fixer February 11, 2017

    Here is the real danger that Pres. Trump cannot see. Those good Christians want the USA to be a Theocracy run by their version of Christian law. What happens if you are not a Christian? What happens if you are not their kind of Christian? Jail? Re-education camps? Loss of your job? How about a yellow arm band to identify a heathen? Those people are dangerous. That has been a society killer through history.

    They want us all to live under their version of Shia Law only we’ll call it Biblical law. Our Vice President has said that he places his faith first. Well, he is to place the Constitution first and he swore to that. That first and foremost!

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  12. I of John February 13, 2017

    The danger that evangelicals have courted for years is that their zeal to be heard as a righteous authority has poison the well. It has been happening since the hayday of the Moral Majority. The common sense of keeping government and religion separate is not just about the freedom to affiliate with whatever religion we want. It is also a safeguard that protects religion from the secular. The Catholic Church nearly destroyed itself because they wanted to govern people directly. It infected its leadership and corroded it. This is what happens when religion governs. Morality and ethics are tools in good government but only when all morality and ethical views are voiced equally. Anything less raises one set of religious principles above others and causes failure.

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