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To celebrate President Obama saying that he does not think marijuana “is more dangerous than alcohol,” Bill Maher invited “Founding Stoner” Willie Nelson to appear on Real Time to discuss the dangers of marijuana.

“It’s plainly less dangerous,” Maher said. “Alcohol abuse… 88,000 deaths a year. Prescription drug overdoses… 16,000 a year. Not one recorded instance of a marijuana overdose. I have living proof here that you cannot overdose on this substance,” he said, referencing the country-western legend.

“A friend of mine had a bale of it fall on him. That’s the only guy…” Nelson said.

“If Obama really believes this, what he said, why is he still raiding dispensaries? Why is it still a Schedule I drug alongside heroin, ecstasy and acid?” Maher asked.

Business Insider‘s Josh Barro agreed that the president should do more than speak out on the silliness of prosecuting marijuana crimes.

The right-leaning journalist suggested that the president could say, “‘I don’t want more raids of marijuana dispensaries, I don’t want the federal government spending resources on marijuana enforcement.’ He would take political flak for that, but I think that it’s a real opportunity for him to show leadership and do something that would have hugely positive impacts all throughout the country.”

Former presidential candidate Howard Dean, also on the panel, said he was recently converted to marijuana legalization after reading The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, which notes how drug arrests at a young age are keeping minorities out of the regular workforce for the rest of their lives.

In the same interview in which he made his comments about marijuana, Obama noted “middle-class kids don’t get locked up for smoking pot, and poor kids do. And African-American kids and Latino kids are more likely to be poor and less likely to have the resources and the support to avoid unduly harsh penalties.”

Wille Nelson

 

Screenshot via Real Time with Bill Maher

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47 Comments

  1. Ken Nardone January 27, 2014

    One nation, under an imaginary Sky Daddy, with liberty and justice for the rich.

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    1. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

      SKYDADDY: a flippant reference to the Christian idea of a “Father” in a celestial heaven..

      What does this have to do with the article?

      Nothing.

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      1. Ken Nardone January 27, 2014

        The video clip embedded is, by extension, a part of article, regardless of the author’s decision not to comment on a particular fact relating to the legalization of marijuana.
        Our Atheist host mentioned the fact that bible-thumping Christian conservatives continue to impose their mind poison on others, attempting to ban the rights of thousands of adult citizens that simply want to marry the person he or she loves.
        Mental reasoning, combined with an accurate scientific understating of our natural universe, renders the “Christian idea of a ‘Father’ in a celestial heaven..” clearly a form of mind poison that too many people cling to without honest and critical examination or reflection of the actual evidence.
        In short, equating that “Father” to an “imaginary Sky Daddy” is an accurate and honest statement. People may consider my statement a “flippant reference”, however, that in no way implies my statement is untrue. Wishful thinking can lead to dangerous and harmful delusions. Religion is mind poison. Religion poisons everything.

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        1. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

          ……

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          1. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

            you mean the original post eh? “One nation, under an imaginary Sky Daddy, with liberty and justice for the rich.” 🙂

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        2. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

          I agree with this:

          Wishful thinking can lead to dangerous and harmful delusions with real consequences. Religion is delusional mind poison. Religion poisons everything.

          Reply
          1. kentallard January 27, 2014

            Religion poisons everything? I’m a religious skeptic and I think that is a silly, silly statement that demeans the belief system of many lovely people.

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  2. 1olderbutwiser1 January 27, 2014

    Be realistic. Inebriation is not the normal state of life. However, it is necessary to get the liberals to quit voting. So, let’s get them all highed-up, so they lose focus of anything important to them outside inebriation, and the next election will come and go. The conservatives will finally gain control of both houses, and those who lack realistic values concerning sobriety and who wish to remain inebriated forever, can do just that, as they are now out of the way of progress in building a more fair economy and taxation system where the hardest working are rewarded commensurate with their efforts. the slackers can wither away in bliss. The BRAVE NEW WORLD has finally arrived.
    But marijuana for medicinal purposes will be greatly beneficial as the compounds not psychoactive are all isolated and used as the medicines God intended them to be. Synergy of man-made and natural substances such as marijuana will ultimately cure all diseases, and suddenly Obamacare will become affordable. the medicine cost being very cheap. The FDA will resist till the cows come home, of course. The goal of the FDA is to protect profits of pharma, it is secondary to think of cheap healing products.
    The wheels of freedom are turning.

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    1. lkreu January 27, 2014

      Get the “all highed up” ! WTF does that mean – did you listen to the interview? Are you drunk?

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      1. awakenaustin January 27, 2014

        It is pretty clear he was high when he wrote it. The rest is pretty much incomplete thoughts and spliced sentences.He seems to be a right-wing christian, new-ager. It is an interesting combination of disparate thought.

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      2. johninPCFL January 27, 2014

        Sounds like he’s been swilling the “olderbudweiser” to me.

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        1. kmkirb January 27, 2014

          Well, besides sounding like it, if that pic is any true depiction, it looks it as well.

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    2. SoulOne Godkiller January 27, 2014

      Please leave your imaginary god out of this,
      Grow up get a life, and kiss my atheist butt.

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    3. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

      Ignore this poster please—don’t feed him….

      here is “older’s” background on posts:

      Off topic troll nonsense as usual….jeesh…
      https://www.google.com/search?q=1olderbutwiser1&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS509US569&oq=1olderbutwiser1&aqs=chrome..69i57.1421j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8

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      1. Duckbudder January 27, 2014

        Yeah, when I see Oldbut, it’s nofun, and a few others, I have learned to just FLAG, and down vote. No need to bother reading them.

        Reply
  3. howa4x January 27, 2014

    I smoked my body weight in pot during the late 60’s to early 70’s. One day I just stopped, didn’t have to go to rehab, no withdrawal, no after effects, no car crashes, just a little smile on my face.
    All this time I smoked it there were draconian laws against it and 1 once was a 20 yr sentence. We couldn’t figure out why everyone was so upset that they would lock us away. Pot is not dangerous and not addictive. Where are all the small government tea party people? Hey get government off people and let them smoke whatever they want!!

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    1. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

      Marijuana in early teens to age 25 can cause psychosis in SOME individuals…

      Cannabis-Induced Bipolar Disorder with Psychotic Features
      A Case Report by Masood A. Khan, MD and Sailaja Akella, OMS-IV

      Abstract

      There has been considerable debate regarding the causal relationship between chronic cannabis abuse and psychiatric disorders. Clinicians agree that cannabis use can cause acute adverse mental effects that mimic psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Although there is good evidence to support this, the connections are complex and not fully understood.

      As the research in the endocannabinoid system is emerging, the neurobiological effects of cannabis are being evaluated in the development of psychiatric illness for those individuals who may be genetically vulnerable. Here we present a case of a college student who initially suffered from an acute psychotic breakdown secondary to cannabis abuse that manifested into bipolar disorder with psychosis.

      Introduction

      The role of cannabis in psychiatric illnesses has been an area of interest. Epidemiological studies have shown that as the frequency of cannabis abuse increases, so does the risk for a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.1 Studies have also shown that cannabis is the most commonly abused drug among those diagnosed with bipolar disorder.1

      and..

      Cannabis intoxication can lead to acute psychosis in many individuals and can produce short-term exacerbations of pre-existing psychotic diseases.3–6 Cannabis use also causes symptoms of depersonalization, fear of dying, irrational panic, and paranoid ideas, which coincide with acute intoxication and remitted quickly.7 In one survey, it was reported that 15 percent of cannabis users identified psychotic-like symptoms, the most common being hearing voices or having unwarranted feelings of persecution.8

      and….case study :

      We present a unique case of a young college student, with no family history of any psychiatric illness, who presents with psychosis secondary to cannabis abuse. His psychosis persisted long after he stopped abusing cannabis, and he needed to be treated medically for new onset bipolar disorder with psychotic features. In the face of no known genetic predisposition, it is interesting that cannabis was his only trigger for psychosis, which warrants further study into understanding the exact mechanism that cannabis affects the neurotransmission at various receptors.

      Go to:

      Read more here:

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811144/

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      1. One_Kids_Mom January 27, 2014

        What a load of crap! Based on nothing except bias and conjecture and an “n” of one! It “was reported” that 15% of cannabis users identified psychotic-like symptoms….really? Are you really expecting me to believe that data exist on every single cannabis user? 15% of what “n” ? Was this based on 5 people or thousands? I’m a scientist and have never been a cannabis user, but junk trying to pass for science is offensive to me. Yes, even the government publishes junk sometimes.

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        1. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

          No it isn’t.
          You did’nt THOROUGHLY read the article(s) posted … you just posted troll rant after a perfuntory read….and Woof!” to you too…

          These SCIENTIFIC REPORTS are backed with supportive data, are real. They are NOT written by amateurs or someone posting an opinion as fact…these institutions and researchers are highly regarded…

          First:
          I do not believe YOU are a scientist as you claim. Post us your real name and scientific affiliation and expertise. Because if you dont post your real name and affiliation and credentials—NONE of us here believe you…

          I have read you Disques profile, and are new to Disqus and have 2 posts at NM….

          It is apparent that you have a propensity of troll challenging authority figures and personal attacks, belittling and deriding posters and their thoughtful comments (as you have done with me). The manner in which you posts is highly questionable.

          Your various troll rants at posts at

          PA – Daily Local News”First of all, I do not buy for one second that you are a lawyer.
          Lawyers have logical thought patterns consistent with an understanding
          of language that is always concentrated on precise use, but also of
          defamation.”

          and:
          “What an ignorant and stupid article! Not only is it repulsive in naming
          people who the writer finds offensive, but it also is ignorant of the
          importance and benefit of science and the space program. ”

          and
          “Dear Mrs. Clam: We do need an independent investigation of this matter.
          How much tax money did he bargain away when there are cuts in the
          District? What did he or the District get for it? Your posts are
          offensive and you are quick to find fault with the posts of others.
          Please keep it civil. Woof!”

          and:
          “There is no such thing as a free lunch or a free education. Stealing makes the top ten
          list. In my world, the Ten Commandments
          are reserved for the really big stuff. They don’t cover “insignificant
          non-issues.” A School Superintendent should have the highest morals and ethical standards. It is clear that Dr. Manzone has high moral standards or she could have simply looked the other way, gotten her glass apple paperweight of appreciation in another month and gone
          about her business. I’ve talked to people and read the comments. The tax paying public is not in sympathy with you. The only people that I can find who rant, sputter, vilify, deny, defame and seem outraged are those who are directly involved in this mess”

          Please stick to posting at the PA Daily News site OK?

          WOOF!

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          1. kentallard January 27, 2014

            Pot is one of the most studied, most used, substance on earth and is about as benign a substance as exists. More people have problems with salt than with pot. Should we ban salt because of few people’s blood pressure goes up when they sprinkle it on their potatoes? You would be shocked if you knew how many people you work with, live with, and cross paths with, have indulged in the use of bud each day. Willie knows more about pot than most experts and you note his statistics on deaths caused by different substances. Your attempts at hysteria are laughable.

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          2. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

            Read the articles above…it is studied and the are reality based facts, not your opinion.

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          3. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014
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          4. daniel bostdorf January 28, 2014

            see my post at the top…

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          5. One_Kids_Mom January 27, 2014

            Not sure what you thought I missed, but this whole article is based on one subject. This is anecdotal information in the form of a case report, but completely insufficient to make any scientific conclusion. If you understand even basic pharmacokinetics, you know that the symptoms reported are very unlikely to have been caused by cannabis since the subject displayed symptoms far outside the metabolic profile. As any statistician and scientist will tell you, there is a vast difference between association and attributable cause and effect. I have to say that your response to my posting was laugh out loud funny. I shared it with a another scientist friend and we both enjoyed a good laugh. Perhaps you should visit Colorado and chill out. Make sure you say “hi” to my buddy “Clambroth.”

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          6. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

            That is the point….you don’t have any clue as to what you are talking about as it realtes to the scientific studies above.

            I want your real name, your scientific credentials, and affiliations with scientific studies relating to marijuana.

            ” I shared it with a another scientist friend and we both enjoyed a good laugh. ‘

            Whi is your “scientist friend?”

            Until we here who are reading your posts know your credentials —we can only assume you are a fraud.

            You have no standing.

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          7. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

            Don’t feed the troll of “one kids mom”

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          8. One_Kids_Mom January 28, 2014

            Obviously, I have no standing with you. It isn’t important to me. I must say, however, that I do feel compassion for you. It’s sad to me that you have so little to occupy yourself that you can spend the time going on these internet rants. It’s not physically or mentally healthy to get so angry. You appear to assume that your opinion is the only right one and perhaps think that you represent more than the opinion of one individual. You would be so much better served to go to the gym, work or volunteer your time or something to get outside yourself. Turning the computer off for a while could really be a blessing to you and others while you “lean in” to life. I have things to do and I can guarantee that my opinion doesn’t matter so I am sure you will continue to type away and pressing the send button. I wish you well.

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          9. daniel bostdorf January 28, 2014

            see my post at top ms troll….

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          10. Sungoddess February 18, 2014

            More people get hooked on crap that the FDA said was safe and studied and have all kind of side affects.

            Reply
          11. daniel bostdorf February 18, 2014

            The article is about marijuana, not the FDA.

            Reply
      2. howa4x January 27, 2014

        True there is a suspension of reality but that what made it fun. Actually the type of high you got was more from where the weed was grown. American and Mexican Weed was fairly mild compared to weed from SE Asia which was very intense. Sure any drug has side effects just pick up a PDR if you really want to get scared to death at what doctors are giving you.. With all the effects of weed, Alcohol is still much worse and causes more internal harm to organs and psychosis as well It also causes breaking up of families, murder, domestic abuse, car fatalities , bankruptcies, fights and a host of other social ills. Yet we tax it and advertise it at sports games where young kids go. People want a release from the stress of life. One drug Alcohol makes you violent and one makes you docile. People are going to do them regardless.

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      3. Sungoddess February 18, 2014

        Im bipolar and don’t smoke pot so your point is.?

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        1. daniel bostdorf February 18, 2014

          Well—get the point by reading the report. There is where your answer lies.

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  4. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

    Teens who smoke pot at risk for later schizophrenia, psychosis

    Evidence is mounting that regular marijuana use increases the chance that a teenager will develop psychosis, a pattern of unusual thoughts or perceptions, such as believing the television is transmitting secret messages. It also increases the risk of developingschizophrenia, a disabling brain disorder that not only causes psychosis, but also problems concentrating and loss of emotional expression.

    more here:

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/teens-who-smoke-pot-at-risk-for-later-schizophrenia-psychosis-201103071676

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    1. kentallard January 27, 2014

      I take back everything I said in response to your posts. Having read the rest of your posts, you frighten me.

      Reply
  5. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

    Schizophrenia News » Cannabis-Induced Psychosis May Be in the Genes—–Cannabis-Induced Psychosis May Be in the Genes
    By TRACI PEDERSEN Associate News Editor
    Reviewed by John M. Grohol, Psy.D. on November 29, 2012

    In a new study, scientists have identified a gene variant that is linked to an increased risk for mental impairment after marijuana use. This may help explain why some marijuana users develop psychosis while others do not.

    Read more here:

    http://psychcentral.com/news/2012/11/29/cannabis-induced-psychosis-may-be-in-the-genes/48289.html

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  6. daniel bostdorf January 27, 2014

    Young people who use high potency ‘skunk’ cannabis daily ‘have psychotic episodes earlier’

    Mental illnesses are triggered six years earlier in patients who have smoked high-strength cannabis every day, a study has claimed.

    Mental health patients who smoked skunk daily – which has a high amount of the drug’s active ingredient, THC – had their first psychotic episode at an average age of 25, compared to 31 for non-users.

    Yet the damage was not limited to heavy smokers or those using powerful cannabis, according to the Institute of Psychiatry at King’s College London.

    Mental health patients with a general history of using cannabis still had their first psychotic episodes at 28 – three years earlier than those who never tried the drug.

    And those who smoked the drug before they were 15 put themselves more at risk, with their first symptoms at the age of 27 instead of 29.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537732/Young-people-use-skunk-type-cannabis-daily-psychotic-episodes-earlier.html#ixzz2rctO1cNW
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537732/Young-people-use-skunk-type-cannabis-daily-psychotic-episodes-earlier.html#ixzz2rctDOOaO

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    1. Sungoddess February 18, 2014

      People who go to church have the same episodes they see a man who is not there

      Reply
      1. daniel bostdorf February 18, 2014

        off topic….tnank you for your view.

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  7. Allan Richardson January 27, 2014

    It may be good “health advice” not to smoke pot, unless you have a medical condition that your doctor thinks it will help. But the only REAL harm done by marijuana is the harm caused by marijuana LAWS.

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    1. daniel bostdorf January 28, 2014

      I agree—see my post above that relates only to teens…

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      1. Allan Richardson January 28, 2014

        As you mentioned, the operative word in that study is SOME. While a sample of 15 is statistically too small to compute an accurate measure of how many “some” is, there is enough information to warrant a larger and more detailed study. However, as long as there is a legal penalty attached to being one of the respondents in a survey who says “yes,” and teens already have a touch of paranoia about the adult “establishment” even before the alleged effect of marijuana may take effect, the only teens that will be exposed to medical study will be the ones who DO have psychiatric side effects (representing an unknown fraction of the unknown total number of users), OR who are caught by the law and forced to go into rehab (which may account for the negative results: they didn’t go insane, they just HAD to come in and be counted).

        If the drug were already legal, we would be able to get the accurate statistics on users of all ages needed to judge whether it should stay legal. Since it is already illegal, and punished by very harsh penalties, most of the users who do not suffer harm are never officially counted as users, so the statistics are slanted toward the conclusion that it should remain illegal.

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        1. daniel bostdorf January 28, 2014

          nice response….

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  8. daniel bostdorf January 28, 2014

    I want to be very clear about this.

    I have no objection to legalizing marijuana. I support total decriminalization and support Colorado’s model as a national model. Willie Nelson’s talk with Bill Maher is important.

    I do, however, know first hand the dangers of marijuana use on pre-puberty teens. I have a relative who developed a brain chemistry imbalance BECAUSE OF marijuana. This individual was a habitual user from 16 years of age until he was hospitalize for a psychotic break at his college graduation, where he failed ti make it to the stage to accept diploma.

    This person is now recovering from this brain chemistry imbalance, a form of seizures caused by marijuana, that was labeled a form of thought disorder schizophrenia.

    After 12+ years of hsopitalizations, this individual is leading a productive life with medications that control the brain chemistry , HOWEVER, do not FULLY control the daily symptoms of psychosis.

    NOTE TO TROLLS:
    Those who have posted vitriolic troll rants against my warnings about the use of marijuana for teens 13-25 years of age simply have no scientific basis to object to the articles I have posted.

    And frankly, those of us who have relatives of individuals with marijuana induced psychosis , really find your posts extremely offensive.

    The MEDICAL, VERIFIABLE, FACTS NOT OPINION:
    Teens who smoke pot at RISK for later schizophrenia, psychosis
    Evidence is mounting that regular marijuana use increases the chance that a teenager will develop psychosis, a pattern of unusual thoughts or perceptions, such as believing the television is transmitting secret messages. It also increases the risk of developingschizophrenia, a disabling brain disorder that not only causes psychosis, but also problems concentrating and loss of emotional expression. more here:

    http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/teens-who-smoke-pot-at-risk-for-later-schizophrenia-psychosis-201103071676

    The MEDICAL FACTS AND CLINICAL STUDY:
    Marijuana in early teens to age 25 can cause psychosis in SOME individuals… Cannabis-Induced Bipolar Disorder with Psychotic Features
    A Case Report by Masood A. Khan, MD and Sailaja Akella, OMS-IV

    Abstract:
    There has been considerable debate regarding the causal relationship between chronic cannabis abuse and psychiatric disorders. Clinicians agree that cannabis use can cause acute adverse mental effects that mimic psychiatric disorders, such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. Although there is good evidence to support this, the connections are complex and not fully understood.

    As the research in the endocannabinoid system is emerging, the neurobiological effects of cannabis are being evaluated in the development of psychiatric illness for those individuals who may be genetically vulnerable. Here we present a case of a college student who initially suffered from an acute psychotic breakdown secondary to cannabis abuse that manifested into bipolar disorder with psychosis.

    Introduction
    The role of cannabis in psychiatric illnesses has been an area of interest. Epidemiological studies have shown that as the frequency of cannabis abuse increases, so does the risk for a psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.1 Studies have also shown that cannabis is the most commonly abused drug among those diagnosed with bipolar disorder….
    Cannabis intoxication can lead to acute psychosis in many individuals and can produce short-term exacerbations of pre-existing psychotic diseases.3–6 Cannabis use also causes symptoms of depersonalization, fear of dying, irrational panic, and paranoid ideas, which coincide with acute intoxication and remitted quickly.7 In one survey, it was reported that 15 percent of cannabis users identified psychotic-like symptoms, the most common being hearing voices or having unwarranted feelings of persecution….

    and….case study :
    We present a unique case of a young college student, with no family history of any psychiatric illness, who presents with psychosis secondary to cannabis abuse. His psychosis persisted long after he stopped abusing cannabis, and he needed to be treated medically for new onset bipolar disorder with psychotic features. In the face of no known genetic predisposition, it is interesting that cannabis was his only trigger for psychosis, which warrants further study into understanding the exact mechanism that cannabis affects the neurotransmission at various receptors.

    READ THE COMPLETE FACTS HERE:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2811144/

    I have no objection to legalizing marijuana. I support total
    decriminalization and support Colorado’s model as a national model…..

    But you CANNOT stick your head into the sand of ignorance, and dismiss as folly scientific eveidence and proof that in some individuals….marijuana DOES CAUSE PSYCHOSIS.

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  9. Robert Roberto January 28, 2014

    He should know it’s not dangerous.

    Reply
    1. daniel bostdorf January 28, 2014

      . . . . . .

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  10. Bob June 24, 2014

    Is it as dangerous as other drugs, including the legal ones? Anyone who would suggest that is clearly delusional. Probably some people can smoke pot occasionally to relax in a social situation. Unfortunately I was not one of them. After I retired and got my card, my using increased to the point I was loaded from the time I got out of bed until I passed out at night. It only bothers me when people claim that they smoke every day and are “functioning”. I have two questions for them: (1) Can you “function” without it? and (2) Can you “function” BETTER without it? After a year of sobriety, my answer to both questions is a resounding YES!

    Reply

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