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The feud between Donald Trump and Pope Francis (yes, really) is now reaching the highest levels of government. The latest personality to weigh in: Vice President Joe Biden.

Biden appeared Thursday in an interview with Rachel Maddow, where he discussed The Donald, the pope, and other controversies in the presidential campaign.

“Pope Francis — Trump — that’s not a hard call for me,” the proudly Catholic vice president said with a laugh. “Not even close!”

On a more serious note, the VP addressed the underlying issue of the Trump/Pontiff tête-à-tête: “Well, I am not a theologian, nor am I a priest or a minister. But I think building walls is fundamentally contrary to what made this country what it is. We’re is a pluralistic society — and it functions.”

Biden also explained why Trump is running ahead in the Republican primaries

“He’s appealing to fear,” Biden said — along with Trump also facing some pretty weak competition. “He’s appealing to — you know, that old expression — everybody would asked me, ‘Why is Trump able to win, in that 16 people?’ There’s the old expression: “In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.’ You know I mean it’s — who’s running?

“I’m not very good at prognosticating. But I would not be surprised if he’s the nominee. I would be surprised if he got elected.”

Video via The Rachel Maddow Show/MSNBC.

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