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Friday, October 28, 2016

More than 5 million new private sector jobs; war in Iraq over; the auto industry reborn; al Qaeda’s leadership and bin Laden decimated; health insurance reform a century in the making; the end of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell; the first sweeping new regulations of Wall Street in a decade… we know the America we live in now. It’s a country about to begin a recovery that we’ve fought long and hard for—despite the opposition of the party that was in power when the wars and the financial crisis began.

But for a moment, I’m going to ask you to do something very frightening. Imagine that Mitt Romney defeated John McCain in the 2008 primary and went on to win the general election.

Allow us to get into a little science fiction as we imagine how the United States would have fared if Mitt Romney did what he claims he would have done.

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  • TZToronto

    All quite reasonable. I like the one about inheriting the $1 trillion deficit. Who gave you that, Mitt? Oh, it was George W. Bush, whose name you refuse to mention. And I’m glad to see that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are going so well and keeping the arms manufacturers in business, not to mention keeping the military happy. Too bad about the auto industry, but your supporters are apparently glad to see it go. You showed those fat, too-big-to-fail auto companies with their unproductive, socialist, unionized workers who’s boss. (Oh, you still helped the too-big-to-fail banks? Well, they’re really a lot more important than building cars. And after they repossessed so many cars and aren’t getting any car payments, they were begging for money, and you gave it to them. The Japanese and Korean car companies can build cars anyway. Oh darn. You say they went out of business, too, because Americans stopped buying cars because they couldn’t afford them? Too bad.) On the positive side, the drilling and mining in the national parks is truly making use of the country’s natural resources (what else are they good for anyway?), and you’d have thought that the price of gasoline would have dropped to $1.50 a gallon, but it’s now at $6.00 a gallon–no demand in the U.S. since so many people had their cars repossessed, but China and India are really sucking up the fuel. But with no demand in the depression-plagued U.S. for manufactured goods, the Chinese economy is like a bubble ready to burst with all that unsold inventory. And obviously since emergency-room health care is costing so much, you’ll have to totally scrap Medicare and Medicaid. Let those freeloaders buy their own health insurance. And if they’re too sick to get any, then maybe they should have taken better care of themselves, like you did. . . . And why are there so many people at the Interstate off-ramps begging for loose change? Why don’t they get jobs? Darn lazy leeches.

    • hilandar1000

      Thanks for giving us that view of what things would be like today, if we had elected a different president in 2008 — very creative, but based on fact. If Romney is elected in this election, I hope Canada is ready for an influx of immigrants from the U.S.

      • TZToronto

        If things get bad enough quickly enough, I wouldn’t be surprised to see an increased number of Americans seeking permanent residency here in Canada. If that happens, most will go to Toronto and Vancouver. Toronto is the “business engine” of Canada, and Vancouver is just a really great place to live. About 1 million Americans already live in Canada. (While the U.S. has been struggling to keep its head above water, Canada has been floating above the mess quite nicely. If you come to Toronto, you’ll see something you don’t see much of in the U.S. these days–construction cranes all over the city.) And that universal, single-payer health care will be very attractive to those Americans who see it as just plain common sense and not some socialist plot. The “smart” ones will come; the others will stay behind to take their bitter medicine.

        Prior to the 1997 takeover of Hong Kong by China, many, many Hong Kong families (those with lots of money) emigrated to Canada. They might have gone to the U.S., but it was easier to get into Canada. After seeing that China was not about to kill the Golden Goose, many of these immigrants moved back to Hong Kong. In their place, Canada has taken a lot of Mainland Chinese immigrants–still with a lot of money–and it looks like these immigrants are here to stay. They tend to be quite industrious, and many of them have opened businesses that cater mainly to Chinese clientele. However, these businesses are being discovered by “Canadian” customers who appreciate both the business ethic of these immigrants and the quality of service they receive.

        • ralphkr

          I think that I shall be more apt to take the ferry across the strait from my home and settle on Vancouver Island, if they will let me in.

          • TZToronto

            We’d love to have you! Great weather and access to the world. I’m an American, and I can’t see myself ever returning to the U.S. to live, at least not the way things are now.

          • ralphkr

            Thank you for the invite but I do wonder about the weather. I have noticed that many times Victoria, only about 30 miles north of here, shall have lots of snow and snarled traffic while we might get a few inches of rain that same day. The most snow I have seen in the 9 winters I’ve been here was 10″ one weekend (a far cry from when I lived in the Midwest or Alaska and the snow was often waist deep or more)

          • TZToronto

            Well, that could be a problem. Vancouver Island, like the city of Vancouver, tends to have fairly mild winters. As a result, their snow clearing may not be up to the standard of, say, Montreal or even Toronto. But the temperature often rises to above freezing soon after the snowfall, given that Vancouver Island is surrounded by the lovely, warm waters of the Pacific Ocean. The snow melts, and Spring comes early.

    • I liked your post however the part about the keeping the military happy should have been ” keeping the contractors happy”. Right now the donations from military personel going to President Obama is 2 to 1 over mitt.

  • Yes, we could have elected Sen. McCain and dealt with his proposal to let market forces solve the problems that existed when President Obama was elected and inaugurated, but only if you support the total collapse of our economy, capitalism and our way of life. Suggesting our defunct market forces, the very forces that needed the TARP and stimulus package like a drowning man needs a lifeline, was probably one of the most naive proposals a politician could make.
    On the issue of debt, let’s not forget that $1T of it was caused by Bush’s TARP, which was signed on 10/3/08, immediately after the start of the FY09 fiscal year. Since most Americans are unfamiliar with the U.S. government fiscal year and budget process the GOP happily obliges and blames Obama for an expenditure they proposed and signed. The effects of the Great Recession, which began in 2007 (recessions are declared after 3 consecutive quarters of negative growth), required stimuli to prevent the collapse of our socio-economic system. Blaming President Obama for the $1T used to save and preserve our way of life is, by all measures, the epitome of cynicism.
    The losses in revenue caused by a declining economy and high unemployment were not cause by President Obama, they were caused by the effects of the economic malaise he inherited. The cost of two wars started by a Republican administration and a Republican controlled Congress rests squarely on Republican decisions, not President Obama’s policies. Blaming the debt on Obamacare, which will not be fully implemented until 2014 is absurd. The same goes for interest on the debt and the liabilities assumed by the government when they collected billions of dollars from taxpayers to finance social programs such as Social Security and MEDICARE. The fact that the SS trust fund has been raided by subsequent administrations for decades, and that the government now has an obligation to fund the benefits they promised in exchange for the taxes they collected, is not President Obama’s fault.
    Accusing an incumbent for the decisions made by previous administrations is something that should be rejected by every person capable of rational thought. The problems we have did not start 3.5 years ago, they started decades ago and, if anything, they lessened the last couple of years.

    • Thank God for the voice of reason….thank you Mr. Vila…I look forward to a cyber-high five with you on November 7th!

    • Ed

      Actually the groundwork for this economic collapse was laid in 1981.

    • ralphkr

      This projection of what the US would be like now if Romney had been elected in 2008 is far rosier than what I would have predicted.

    • Thank you and your blog should go out to every site in the country.

    • awklause

      Just reading those five items made my physically sick to my stomach. We can’t let this happen. It made me feel like it was the Bush years all over again.

    • Thank you!!





    You NO GOOD PRICKS!!!!!!!!!!!

    They were talking about this LAST NIGHT on the REAL NEWS!!!!


    Obama DEFENDS Libya!!!!!

    U.S. Department of State ‘knew of attack plans up to 48 hours ahead of time but did not tell diplomats to go on lock-down,’ sources say
    Obama KNEW it was a terror attack, WENT TO SLEEP then flew to Vegas to raise money. EVIL!!!!

    We let a bunch of effete politicians and diplomats call the plays and our people get killed.

    Now the likes of Obama and Hillary Clinton and their lackeys can engage in endless rationalizations and excuse making, which accomplishes nothing and perpetuates the status quo, as they are the very people responsible for the debacle in the first place. More rhetoric while the victims of their ineptitude lie dead. SICKENING!!!!!

    Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.
    Report: Emails Show White House Told of Terrorism Claim Two Hours After Benghazi Attack
    Of course that’s just the White House, so that’s a building in no way connected to barack HUSSEIN obama or Joe Biden.


    The president then went on for two weeks lying and claiming it was a video. The maker of the video sits in prison without bail.

    The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, EVEN AS IT WAS STILL UNDER WAY, TALKING TO WASHINGTON!!!!!!!

    Then five days later Susan Rice lied on national television, on five different programs.
    The president then again DOWN RIGHT LIED on The View, Letterman and six times at the UN.
    Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.
    Seventeen days——-And most of the media was willing to let them get away with it. Think about that.

    U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which (OUR SUPPOSIDLY) President barrack HUSSEIN obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a “terrorist” attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.
    The records obtained by Reuters consist of three emails dispatched by the State Department’s Operations Center to multiple government offices, including addresses at the White House, Pentagon, intelligence community and FBI, on the afternoon of September 11.
    The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time – or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time, 20-30 minutes after the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission allegedly began – carried the subject line “U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack” and the notation “SBU”, meaning “Sensitive But Unclassified.”

    The text said the State Department’s regional security office had reported that the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was “under attack. Embassy in Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well.”


    BTW, Obama DID build this!

    • hilandar1000

      You better check your anonymous and fantasy sources again, All unAmerican. You are just another of the FoxNews misinformed who is trying to make a political point over the dead bodies of our Countrymen, which most of us find despicable. Obama has nothing to hide — unlike your boy Mitt.

    • Dmullins84

      Keep throwing out all your foolish garbage and you’ll wind up in chains. Would love to know what the hell you do for a living to have all this time on hand to set on your ass and throw out all these Fox talking points. On second thought, I would prefer not.

    • patuxant

      This “mental giant” ALLLLLAsshole, said the same thing in another post. Guess he think if he rants enough, people will by his crap.

  • howa4x

    I think he would have been the mass. moderate. 1st off Portman would be his VP. He might have pushed the same health care reform since it was his origional plan, which called on employers in that state to provide contraception coverage. He probably wouldn’t have ended the Iraq war, and would have beefed up in afganistan eariler. He would have expaned the navy. On the economic side he would have managed the bail out the same but with more bonus’es, let the mortgage crisis hit bottom, and let GM go into bankruptcy. He would have told the American people that we have to first make Wall st strong again before we help any one else. The financial crisis would have stopped him from talking about SS, and medicare privatization. Interesting enough that fact that wall st made a recovery under Obama’s polices is the only reason he and Ryan can talk about it now. There would have been no stimulas. He would push more to the states like medicaid, and more EPA authority, and education responsibility. You can’t look at him now and go back because the ultra right hadn’t yet taken over the party and the house. How Romney would have governed is seen more clearer after he shook the Etch-a sketch. The pick of Ryan now seals his fate. If Romney wins now he will govern from the right

  • Why are the Republican Party so blind to what is so painfully oddvious to everyone else? I am so sick of flat Earth mentality from the right.


  • Captain_Tragedy

    Well, I was going to read this article, but stretched out over seven pages? Are you guys the Bleacher Report of politics?

  • DurdyDawg

    That was good reading and quite applicable @LOLGOP… But we’re not out of the woods. With the changing of names and incidents, if these two mittenheads somehow steal this election we could see you’re “little science fiction” explode into a harsh reality.. (shiver). Let’s not allow this to happen even if it would be mere imagination.. The U.S. is not a corporation, we do not need a couple of capitalistic bottom feeders.

    (would you even buy a car from either of these two knuckleheads?)

  • Tragic but so revealing!

  • JuliaMarks

    At this very moment a Romney company is shipping jobs to China and closing down the American plant. But he promises to create new jobs. In the US? Or in India and China? I would like a president who actually cares for the people in his own country.

  • tomasiepants

    The auto industry crumbles? Good lord. Look, the reason GM was failing is because their products were THE WORST. Same with Chrysler. THE WORST. Another company would have swooped in and purchased/kept the brand alive. Instead, we illegally printed money to give them a bailout. Guess what? They didn’t pay back their loan. They say they did… but they didn’t. They basically took out a loan to pay another loan. If Romney were president nothing would change. We’d still illegally print money, devalue our dollar, attack out civil liberties, and bomb the crud out of brown people.