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Friday, October 21, 2016

Boehner: Clean Debt Limit Raise Would Be ‘Unconditional Surrender’ For GOP

House Speaker John Boehner defiantly reiterated his refusal to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling without preconditions, saying in a Tuesday afternoon press conference that such a move would amount to “unconditional surrender.”

Earlier in the afternoon, during a press conference of his own, President Obama signaled that he would be willing to engage in a broader budget negotiation with the Speaker — but not until the House ends the government shutdown and removes the threat of default. At his press conference, Speaker Boehner said that this is unacceptable.

“The long and short of it is, there’s going to be a negotiation,” Boehner said. “We can’t raise the debt ceiling without doing something about what’s driving us to borrow more money and to live beyond our means.”

Boehner declined to explain what he hoped to gain from the negotiation — he did not name any specific programs or expenditures that he wanted to see cut — but he made it clear that he would not stop threatening the economy without some type of concession.

“At times like this, the American people expect their leaders to sit down and have a conversation. I want that conversation to occur now,” he insisted. “What the president said today was if there’s unconditional surrender by Republicans, he will sit down and talk to us. That’s not the way our government works.”

Boehner’s position makes the path forward unclear. President Obama has been adamant that he will not negotiate over the debt ceiling, and to this point Democrats have shown no signs that they will back down from that position. Until Boehner folds his weak hand — the Speaker himself has repeatedly admitted that he will not actually allow the country to default on its debt — the economy will continue to suffer as the negotiations stay frozen in place.

If Boehner does not relent and the debt ceiling is not raised, however, the economic consequences would be catastrophic.

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  • sigrid28

    The time has come for John Boehner to get a taste of his own medicine by being replaced as Speaker of the House: he tried unsuccessfully to replace Newt Gingrich. With these statements, Boehner abdicates his responsibilities, putting the well-being of 300 million Americans in jeopardy in order to appease about forty Tea Party members in his caucus who will never be satisfied with anything less than total repeal of the ACA. The perseveration on the talking points of the far right and that of their constituents is not amenable to the logic of debate and reconciliation within the format set out by the U.S. consitution. We must first take the power to harm the country out of their hands, and do so before the last minute. Only then can negotiations ensue. The president had it right all along.

  • amphiox

    THIS IS NOT A GAME, Boehner.

    • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

      No. It’s not a game. It’s a war. It’s a war of the Tea Party and their “job creator” masters (who haven’t created any significant number of jobs since Shrub slashed their taxes so they could create those jobs) against the people of the United States.
      It’s about time the President took off his kid gloves, took to the bully pulpit we elected and re-elected him to, and take his case to the American people, painting the entire Republican Party with the same brush until the Tea Party members are disowned by the remainder of the Republican party.

  • labman57

    Unconditional surrender?
    Tea party brown-nosers — in an apparent effort to resurrect the Confederacy — are experiencing the strangest sense of deja vu.

    • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

      General Ulysses S. Grant was given the nickname “Unconditional Surrender” Grant (note the same initials?) starting in 1864 as he continued to drive the Army of Northern Virginia further and further into defeat, until at Appomattox Courthouse, General Robert E. Lee offered to agree to whatever terms Grant demanded. Surprisingly to many, Grant accepted many of the “conditions” requested by Lee. Why? Because Grant, like Lincoln, wanted to resolve the whole rebellion and restore those states back into the Union.

  • Sand_Cat

    For the most part, the American people are strongly opposed to their government’s “sitting down and negotiating” with extortionists and blackmailers, which is what the Tea Party is, with John Boehner as their indispensable enabler.

  • Lynda Groom

    The white flag is at the cleaners being pressed for Boehoner to wave in front our nation flag when he does indeed surrender. The time for game playing came to an end today when the President spoke to the American people and explained the problem in direct and very simple language. Game, set and match for the President.

  • charleo1

    The T-Party’s idea of making a deal. I noticed that Farm-All tractor you got sittin’
    out front there’s for sale! Why don’t come out here, and let me hold this gun to
    your head, and see if we can settle on a price?

    • midway54

      Wouldn’t it be astounding to see something like the crazies Louie Gohmert of the Loon Star State or Steven King of Iowa in the chair. The other day, a poll came out that showed King was four points behind his opponent in his race for re-election. This, plus his deciding against running for the Senate, would suggest that Iowans are waking up.

  • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

    Boehner is terrified of calling a “Clean Vote” on either the Appropriations Bill or on the Debt Ceiling Bill because he knows both would pass and would do so with just about every Democrat voting Yea, along with less than half of the Republicans. Should he do so, the Tea Party has threatened to call a Republican Caucus with one agenda – Nominating a new Speaker. Think Boehner was bad? Imagine what it would be like with Eric Cantor or Paul Ryan as Speaker!!!