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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Crazy Right-Wing Laws Passed By Statehouses Across The Country

Anti-Shariah Laws

Watch out for Muslims? Last week, Kansas Governor Sam Brownback signed an anti-abortion law and — in a move that escalated the crazy and, like all the bills in this slideshow, echoed bills previously passed in other states — a ban on the use or citation of “Shariah,” traditional Muslim law, in state courts. Apparently our courts are at risk of being overrun by the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • johninPCFL

    The drug testing provisions in FL were tried years ago, and the UE population mimiced the same 2% usage rate for illicit drugs that was found then. Gov Scott ignored those results to impose a comparable “agent in everyone’s life” regimen, with exactly the same results – millions spent with thousands recovered. The only major difference here was that it was a company he started and owned that would be providing the testing “service”.

    After the outcry started he transferred ownership to his wife, with the explanation that she’d run the company completely on her own with no input or guidance from him. When the outcry continued he sold the company to his buds. Anyine doubt he’ll be buying his shares back when he is out of office?

    • Hey that thinking works for Clarence Thomas. His wife runs a company whose purpose is to overturn Obamacare but of course they too NEVER talk of her position or the $165,000.00 she makes as a lobbyist also NEVER goes into his pocket. Yeah right and about that swampland for sale in Fla………….

    • majordad75

      John, the situation that existed several years ago are not the same circomstances that exist today.

      You are also confusing two issues that both need to be addressed. The first issue is identifying through drug testing the people and families that are exhibiting “at risk” behavior and finding them help.

      The second issue is the corruption within the government system that you reference. We need to address BOTH problems. The solution is to identify the problem areas in each realm. For those seeking help – identify the problem and get them help. For the political vampires who seek to take advantage of those who are disadvantaged, we need to identify them and remove them from office – perhaps to the “steel-bar” hotel if apporpriate.

      Doing nothing is not a solution, and doing the same thing the same way over and over again and expecting change is insanity. We need to take take the steps necessary to move forward – and the first step in changing anything is identifying the problem area and prioritizing the help – in this case it is finding those who needs our help the most. Drug testing will help uncover those who need help. I know from experience (I was tested on a periodic basis for 32 years) that if a person knows they will be tested and found out, it is easier for them to come forward and seek out help rather than wait for someone else to uncover their usage and ‘out’ them. I am a progressive who is willing to use the tools we have to help those we can help. Even iff the idea comes from the Repug’s – remember -“A stopped clock is right twice a day.”

      • johninPCFL

        The point I missed making is that Gov Scott claimed that keeping those who failed the drug test from collecting assistance would pay for the testing by lowering the costs of assistance. That process was tried before and failed. It was a multi-million dollar mistake that was well documented.

        The latest idiotic move is to try to drug-test UE applicants. So since welfare recipients tested out at 2%, the normal population tests out at 5%+, we must assume that UE applicants will test out beyond the 10% financial break-even point?

        Just to re-phrase, those who held a job, were let go “not with cause”, and who want to collect UE (that they or their employer has paid into the system on their behalf) will presumably as a group test positive for drugs at a rate higher than the general population and much much higher than welfare recipients?

      • frivolous01

        Unfortunately I live in Florida, this did not happen ‘several years ago’. Governor Scott has been in charge for less than 2 years, this was in place within the last year and was struck down by the courts. Therefore, it is highly relevant to this conversation.

  • Why don’t the political bigotea clowns who create these hate laws undergo drug testing themselves?

    • majordad75

      Glen – I underwent drug testing for 32 years and I support drug testing for those seeking public assistance. BTW – I am not a Repug.

      • Now that is a good idea ! I don’t feel that everybody seeking public assistance will be on drug, but some will be and they should not qualify unless they get help for their addiction.

        • phantomoftheopera

          let’s also test the politicians. they are as much on ‘public assistance’ as any other group

        • Bunny and Major, Public assistance is not for the adults in the family unit,it’s for the kids! No one stops to think about the impact of new laws on the most vulnerable, the children who depend on the assistance to help their parents provide for them!
          IMHO, drug testing without cause is unconstitutional! They don’t evem have a public safety angle to fall back on!
          FLA drug tested those getting public assistance,guess what, 98% were clean! It is a waste of money and bad thinking as to the reason behind poverty. It certainly is not because they don’t have the get up and go or moxie to get rich. It is very hard to be poor and there are myriad reasons why we have it here in the richest country in the world!
          Big reason….Don’t ghettoize the poor in public housing units that noone wants near their neighborhoods! Smaller 1 or 2 family units should be seeded all through rich and middle class neighborhoods.

      • howa4x

        How about we legalize the drugs, empty the prisons and treat this epdemic as a public health issue. We could use the money we spend on prisoners (50k/yr) and spend it on treatment, skill building and job training. We are moving toward a knowledge based economy and we have 2 million in prison falling way way behind. We keep walking in the same circle

        • Rob

          Legalize murder and burglary and we could do away with police, lawyers and judges besides prisons.

          • howa4x

            the war on Drugs started in 1970 and is an abject failure. It has not stopped drug use and created a legion of class A felons who are basically unemployable and rotate back to prison since crime is the only way they can earn a living. so if you have a better answer I’d like to hear it

          • progressiveandproud

            If you’re going to comment at least do it sober.

  • radiomankc

    Protect the fetuses…but after they’re air breathers, send em to prison if they don’t keep their noses clean. Republicans care much more for the preborn than the postborn. And to think. Hillary said there was a “Great Right Wing Conspiracy” and people scoffed at her. Today, we have discovered she was right all along. Whatever you do, when election time comes along, be sure to vote, and vote for Democrats for key state and federal contests.

    • ckibbey80

      Then not to mention, the GOP has used the “prime meat” of our young people (18 – 26 year olds) for years for use in their war machine. When the economy goes south, the GOP start a war or go pick a fight, and the armed forces become the key employers, especially for the less than bright kids, because the education budgets were cut, and they didn’t get the necessary schooling and guidance they so despratly needed. Of course, the dumb bells can’t see the forest for the trees and keep voting Republician thinking they are going to get rich (yeah…right) by doing so, and when the coffins start rolling into Dover AFB, they wrap it all up in flag draped patroitism. (Gag!) This country ought to be ashamed!

  • how about moving this rule to the welfare lines. apply for welfare and take a drug test. Boy could all of us tax payers save some money!!! And also NO SSI For addicts. I know alot people with different problems and they work. Send them to a special rejhab and send them to the military. you want money you have to work..

    • SaneJane

      How long have you been out of the loop? Previous comments address this. Florida has already tried it and wasted millions and saved almost nothing. What is your real reason for wanting to make things tougher for people who are already having a difficult time?

      • kelstephe

        Maybe they wouldn’t have such a difficult time if they were lucid and out looking for a job rather than spending thier food stamps on Thunderbird and drugs.
        And the headline “crazy right-wing laws” give me a break. The “loony left” have plenty of their own. They are just too stupid to own up.

  • clarenceswinney

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  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Ever notice what today’s Republican men all look like: clean shaven, faces scrubbed whiter than white and dressed in expensive suits? Ain’t they just sooooo purty? Now, peel off that clone-like exterior and you see the rottenest bunch of evil SOBS to hit the Republican party EVER. Not a single Republican male today is worthy of re-election because as an elected official you represent people. These Republican men represent everything but.

    They present bills that are directed at human behavior for people who have better educations and have no need of Father Knows Best Republican Bullies. But, what we need to see clearly is “why” they waste so much time on these kinds of bills: To avoid having to deal with joblessness and the economy. Not because they can’t, mind you. Because stalling and delaying is amassing huge profits for the Corporate Welfare State all while taxpayers continue to shell out for corporate tax subsidies and tax cuts for the wealthy.

    Stalling…stalling….stalling…These Republican men are using the same stall Exxon used for 22 years to avoid paying a fine for the Valdez spill…First Exxon complained it had to increase prices to pay for a fine they hadn’t paid until 2007 when they got their Big Oil Boi in the White House to cut the fine in half and force 50% of that fine on taxpayers. See? Stalling equals profit…22 years of prices increase to pay a fine that took 22 years to pay and meanwhile amassing billions in record profits every one of those 22 years.

    And didn’t that snookering work really well for the Republican men who rammed that down taxpayers throats? Well? That’s the same stalling they are doing now…to keep their cronies in huge profits.

    • oldtack

      Eleanor,
      In addition to your descriptions – did you ever notice – the more extremely evangelical conservative they are the less upper lip they have? Wierd. Look at Boehner, McConnell, McCain. Corker – they have no upper lips! Even the women if you wish to call them women. Look at Kay Bailey Satchel ass Hutchisson – no upper lip. Does that come from being a tight lipped piusite or are they some type of metomorphic off shoot of real humanity?

  • Sometimes its all a guy can do, to keep from rolling up his sleeves and start taking heads!

  • I have said it before and will say it again. We need a law that requires anyone who runs for office to take a IQ test, as well as tests on history and the Constitution and pass before they register to run. Once more they have to swear on the bible that they do not want to replace the constitution with biblical law. Because that is what this is all about, the desire to run this Country on radical, right wing Christian beliefs.

  • SA

    They pass all these crazy laws in their home states 2 hours after they bring this stuff up while preventing any measures from moving to action through filibuster in the national discourse in Washington, DC. About 3 states passed laws pertaining to contraception 3 days after the Sandra Flukes episodes whille taking 3 months allowing corporate welfate to continue as opposed to using the subsidies for the citizens at large (health care, student loans, etc)

  • shadeaux14

    Brownback—–Perfect name for a republican.

  • Ann

    I think all Republicans should be forced to has a rectal exam to try and find there brains.

    • Rectum, and dam well killed them !

  • Mr Dean

    I thought the GOP was for getting goverment out of our lives…….With all of these social mandates being imposed on the rest of us in the country who don’t share their ideals I wonder if the can see the hypocracy of it all let alone the irony. I am just saying…….

  • The extreme right-wing Republicans have completely gone off the deep end. They keep selling ‘crazy’ even though we are all stocked up –especially in Arizona.

  • majordad75

    First of all, I am not a Repeg – and I spent 32 years as a Marine being periodicly tested for drugs in my system without objection. (People who are under the influence of drugs and loaded guns don’t bode well for others in stressful situations). But I do think that testing people who are wanting public assistance for drug use is a good idea. If there is a medical reason for the drugs being in their system – fine. But if they are abusing drugs – they need to be referred to the appropriate agencies for help. Do they have children who are endangered by their use? Are they in a position where they may be at risk for the spreading of disease? Those are social concerns that we need to look at in conjunction with those who are seeking public money. When people are under stess they seek an escape from the pressures of life. If their escape mechanism results in their turning to drug use, that places them in danger of developing a pattern of use that impedes their return to their previous lifestyle. Some of the dangerous escape mechanisms can be identified through the use the drug testing those who are seeking assistance. I do believe that there are good reasons for there to be stipulations for receiving public funds in order for us to enhance the public good.

    • frivolous01

      As a former military man, you fought for the United States, for the freedoms we were granted under the Constitution. The fourth amendment states, “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

      “secure in their persons…but upon probable cause” What is the probable cause here? Is it the fact that they are poor? The only exceptions, so far, are for the ‘compelling interest in public safety’, this is what covers the military, law enforcement, truck drivers, etc. So far states that have attempted drug testing for welfare recipients have been halted by the courts and determined to be unconstituinal violations of the fourth amendment.

      I know a lot of people think that it is fine to drug test welfare recipients and you make a valid argument; but there is so much more to it then just a valid argument, it’s the precedent that is set when you say it is ok to violate certain groups of people’s rights, especially those groups that traditionally are unable to fight for themselves. The problem, as I see it, is that there are a lot of valid arguments for why the government should be allowed to violate the constitution and if we allow any of them based merely upon the fact that we know we won’t get caught up in it then we lose our right to fight when something comes along that does affect us.

      First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out–
      Because I was not a Socialist.

      Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out–
      Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

      Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
      Because I was not a Jew.

      Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.

      • majordad75

        This should not be seen as a violation of any of their rights. This is not seizing anything from them. We are not knocking down their doors, dragging them into clinics and forcibly extracting samples from them. But as they are asking for assistance from the public, we the public have a responsibility to ensure the limited resources we have are being used in the best manner possible.

        I do not believe that people automatically have a right to subsist off the public – even if they have contributed to those public funds while they were working – without any conditions whatsoever. Today we have laws and regulations which set limits on who can receive assistance. Those who request help from public sources must meet those requirements. People who do not request assistance are free to live anyway they please – no one is coming for them like your pre-WW2 Nazi example.

        When a person goes to the doctor for assistance at a public clinic and he/she takes a blood or urine sample – is that a violation of the constitiution? Isn’t it done for the greater good of the person in order to help them and their families? It is done to identify and/or eliminate from consideration what may be causing the person’s problem(s).

        This is not a constitutional issue as no one is being forced to give anything. No one is coming for them – as in your quote from the German Pastor Bonhoffer. The people are the ones coming in and asking for public help. I know this next statement of mine would only apply to a small number of cases, as most people who are requesting assistance today are not there because of drug problems – but let me say this. ‘Giving money to people who have drug related problems is not a solution.’ To help people we need to first identify the problem then seek a solution.

        Sometimes drug abuse can be an unidentified underlying problem brought on by outside stresses such as unemployment or underemployment. We have a social responsibility to help these people as well as a social responsibility to utilize our public resources and funds as wisely as possible.

        As an American citizen, no one had the right to make me undergo routine blood and urine sampling. However, because I chose to be in the military, working in the nuclear weapons field, I willing underwent the testing voluntarily. If I did not want to be tested – I was free to leave the field and work elsewhere. However if I left the field, I could not expect to receive the pay/ benefits that came with the position. If someone does not wish to be tested, they are free to choose to not be tested. However, they should not expect to receive the money/benefits like those who do so choose to be tested – that is, or as stated in another way – those who have met the requirements. Being tested positively sould not automatically exclude the people from benefits, but rather the drug testing would be a way to identify underlying problems in order for the people who do have the problem to start receiving help. If they did not chose to follow through on the program – they would receive no benefits. In such a case it works out similar to the person who seeks unemployment assistance. They are required to go out to seek and apply for jobs rather than sit at home and draw cash for nothing. IF they do not apply for jobs – they get no assistance.

        Let me say this political statement as well. Too many Repugs look upon the poor as people who are drug using, lazy, never-had-a-job- never-want-a-job mentality, malcontents. That is not the case for the vast majority of poor people. I say let’s expose the truth by taking steps to prove that the vast majority of poor people who are in need of help are moral, hard working people who need a hand up. Let’s expose this class warfare by the Repugs for what it is. I think drug testing does both: exposes the lies of the wealthy and identifies the ones that really do need help.

    • There are many people that receive public funds. Small businesses, students, farmers, large corps., etc…. Should they also be tested.

  • I continue to be amazed by the whackos that have taken over our government. It’s even more frightening that you have people who believe these jackasses, vote for them, even against their own interest. Thank God Obama came into office otherwise we would not have known just how mentally deranged these people are. Now they want you to buy into Mitt Romney, vote for him and vote against your needs. May God Have Mercy on America.

  • An Anti Abortion law violates a Supreme Court ruling
    “Abortion is a fundamental right under the Constitution of The United States.”
    It will NEVER stand up in court and they know it. All they’re doing is playing politics, again. ANYTHING we can possibly do to get more votes.

    Article VI Clause 2
    “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

    Supreme Court.

    Roe v. Wade,
    410 U.S. 113 (1973), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court on the issue of abortion. Decided simultaneously with companion case Doe v. Bolton, the Court ruled that a right to privacy under the due process clause in the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution extends to a woman’s decision to have an abortion,

    The Court issued its decision on January 22, 1973, with a 7-to-2 majority vote in favor of Roe. Burger and Douglas’ concurring opinions and White’s dissenting opinion were issued with along with the Court’s opinion in Doe v. Bolton (announced on the same day as Roe v. Wade). The Court deemed abortion a fundamental right under the United States Constitution, thereby subjecting all laws attempting to restrict it to the standard of scrutiny

  • Harry Truman once said: “I could have been a pianist in a whore house or a politician, there’s not much difference”.

  • I’d find the Radical Right laughable if it weren’t for the facrt that these damned dumb laws are getting passed. To the legislatures that are banning Shariah law—is their “Christian law” any better–interfering with people’s personal lives? The kettle calling the pot black.

  • During my high school years [the 1950,s] we had just recovered from the McCarthy era [a sad and tragic abuse of right wing political power. And we were being deluged by TV preachers like Oral Roberts who clearly just wanted money and power. We are now in another such time. To paraphrase a couple of recent Republican candidates: “I will build a fence across the entire Mexican/ US border” and another [this was Gingrich] “Spanish is the language of the ghetto”. Currently the most powerful voice “and de facto head” of the Party is Rush Limbaugh? And now to top it all off Donald Trump [the list gets more ridiculous as it grows] has been shown President Obama’s birth certificate so now he doubts its authenticity. Did I mention Sarah Palin? This is not the Republican party I was taught to respect as a legitimate part of our political system. This is a group of power and money hungry people who will do and say anything to obtain complete control of America’s political system for personal gain.

  • This once-great country was not created by a process that transpired in accordance with the American Constitution. This once-great country will not be saved by a process that takes place in accordance with the American Constitution. THE WAR WE NEED TO HAVE IS RIGHT HERE AT HOME.

  • howa4x

    If anyone thinks that the Republicans don’t have a war going on with anyone that is intelligent, you’re living under a rock. For a party that marches around with 3 corner hats , a copy of the constitution, a flag that says” don’t tread on me”, and shirts that say keep government out of health care(that one is especially funny when a senior wears it) they are very invasive into peoples lives.. I know that Kansas soon will be over run with Islamists soon LOL so I guess they want to be prepared, you know just in case. Tenn. has a long history of ignorance, so keeping their people out of the knowledge economy is in keeping with tradition. In Virginia the state senators are perverts. Can you imagine the conversations about womens vagina’s?(I wonder how many of them were masturbating during the debate). The real scary part is they are doing it with a straight face. They talk about freedom but that is only about guns and govt regulations that protect the rest of us. There is no freedom for gays to have happiness, or Latino children to contribute in a meaningful way, or women to be in control of their own productive rights. It’s freedom for white evangelicals to impose their will. I’m not schocked by what republicans do anymore. They have become a place were bigots, wing nuts, and zealots are comfortable. what I’m schocked about is how decent thinking people can actually vote for them

  • LeslieFish

    Actually, CAIR and other Islamic groups *have* been trying to push Sharia law in American courts (as viz. Michigan). There’s good reason for those “American Laws For American Courts” bills. It’s naive to assume that radical Islamic fundamentalists haven’t been trying strenuously to undermine the US.

    A lot of people who backed the original Tea Party have grown disillusioned with supposed libertarian candidates who turned out to be more interested in banning abortion than reducing the federal debt. Unless the GOP nominates Ron Paul for pres, it’ll not only go crashing down to defeat in November, but may sink permanently — the way the Whigs did before them.

    –Leslie < Fish

  • frivolous01

    Again, I respect your position but disagree. How is taking urine from someone not seizing something, what is more personal than something that comes from our body? Your comment about a clinic taking blood or urine for medical purposes isn’t valid either, the constitution prevents the ‘government’ from unreasonable search and seizures. It does not apply to private entities. This is why the argument that private businesses require drug tests also does not work, they are not the ‘government’. This is also why this is a constitutional issue (you don’t have to believe me, courts have ruled that it is a consitutional issue) it is the government requiring you to provide a sample. It is a presumption of illegal activity without probably cause, e.g. the fact that you are poor and are requesting assistance.

    As far as my quote, I agree that this particular incident does not rise to the level of nazism. My concern is the further reaching of the republican party; attempts to get rid of unions, attempts to require invasive testing for women that want abortions, and don’t even get me started on the Patriot Act. I am concerned that we are getting further and further away from the freedoms guaranteed in the constitution, mostly in the interest of religion. Anything that we allow futher erodes all of our rights.

    Finally, again, I understand your argument and agree on a certain level. However, one issue that hasn’t been discussed is that there are a relatively small amount of people that get benefits that are single, most of them have children. The children don’t do the drugs (hopefully) and how much should they be penalized for the actions of their parents?

    Also, these drug tests aren’t free, in Florida last year: Of the 4,086 applicants who scheduled drug tests while the law was enforced, 108 people, or 2.6 percent, failed, most often testing positive for marijuana. About 40 people scheduled tests but canceled them, according to the Department of Children and Families, which oversees Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, known as the TANF program.

    The numbers, confirming previous estimates, show that taxpayers spent $118,140 to reimburse people for drug test costs, at an average of $35 per screening.

    The state’s net loss? $45,780.

    “That’s not counting attorneys and court fees and the thousands of hours of staff time it took to implement this policy,” Newton said.

    Thank you, I enjoy an intelligent debate.

  • Run all the muslames out of this country.

  • carolknows

    all abortions are being dna-typed/stored as data so all the boys/fathers can be scrutinized just like the women for years…watch the hallow/shallow/twofaced/hypocritical republies run when this all comes out…only problem is it’s too late to catch the hypos from times past…bushies anyone?