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Saturday, September 23, 2017

Alarming reports about the amount of ammo and protective gear Aurora gunman James Holmes bought online has surfaced as debate over gun control surges in the wake of yet another mass murder. With no regulation, buying guns and ammunition online is easy as buying a new pair of shoes. Here are a few of the websites where people can purchase their weapons online. While some may just be crazy, others are dangerously illegal.

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72 Responses to Five Crazy And Highly Dubious Online Markets For Guns

  1. there should be limit restrictions on assault rifles, if you are not military or law enforcement then track individual sales of these weapons.

      • If any members of your family were taken out, it won’t make a difference how many YOU own. You weren’t there. You’d be screaming for a limit.

        • Shit happens, laws serve no purpose until after the fact, there are laws against killing, and anythjing else you can think of, what do they stop, nothing. You (per the surpreme court) have the responsibility to protect yourself, what part of that do you not understand.

        • No I wouldn’t. My wife and kids are trained to use and will use the weaponse inside my house if necessary. Of course my kids are grown now but were taught to use and respect weapons at an early age.

          • You wasted years teaching your kids how to handle and respect Distruction, there is notihng good that comes from a gun. Guns are made to distroy. You would have done a better job teaching them love.

          • For people with your mind set, I pray you never have to defend anything because 1. you would not know how, and 2. you would be one of the sheep who stands in silence as the shit happens and you become one of the Sgt Schultz
            “I saw nothing”

          • No I didn’t. Oh and if you think nothing good comes from a gun you are fortunate you live in a country where others were willing to pick up a gun to defend your freedom.

        • If the law allowed for law abiding people in that theatre to carry guns, James Holmes would have been taken out before he killed and hurt as many as he did.

          • @excavatoreddie Was James Holmes not law abiding uptil the incident? Look at it this way, If nobody is allowed to carry guns except law enforcement agents, James Holmes would not have killed the people he did.

      • Who determines “anti-constitutional”, you? MMG= Meyer must go, at least until it learns what any of those words it spews mean other than them being some bad scary word its lords and masters have taught it to throw out there to restrict discussion and scare other gullible wingers.

        • Where do guys like Meyer come from? Are they just paid shills, a quarter a word, 10 cents if it is fancier than a sixth grader would understand? I see them on all sorts of pages, people who write tangential, thoughtless and angry comments. My father was a life-time member of the NRA and I loved doing battle with him but at least he understood the importance of coherence.

          • You must be really freightened to come to websites that clearly express views that are diametrically opposite of your own. It’s certainly a symptom of your highly reactionary tendancies…paranoid and unable to think clearly because of FEAR.
            You know your boy, Mitty, has no chance of winning the election!!! It’s hilarious to watch you neocons twist in the wind as Romney gaffes and lies on a daily basis. Mitt can’t even be a polite visitor in England without insulting their people and conservative prime minister! He can’t utter a single phrase that conveys a sincere thought or a clear plan for our country and YOU know it!!! Heeheee…you’re sweating wherever you are right now. You know very well that Mittens is completely unable to be the talking head for your republican party. The ONLY thing he has consisely promised is to make himself more wealthy by giving himself more tax breaks. Don’t worry- you won’t be able to discern whether he’s truly a financially ethical man, because he won’t provide his tax returns.
            He can’t co-sign your party’s sexist, racist, elitist and right wingnut ideology because you know deep down inside that Mitt is really a LIBERAL republican (an oxymoron in this day and age). He bragged openly about, “..running to the LEFT of Ted Kennedy…” in Mass. He was the architect of Obamacare. He supported gay marriage and Roe vs. Wade. He even said he wasn’t “in line” with the NRA! The best part of all is…YOU can’t deny it!! It’s all recorded in living color as a glorious history of the last of the great liberal republicans. Wow…I can’t feel your anxiety…you and every other neocon, republican, right wingnut. I can smell your fear and it stinks to high heaven.

            Have a beautiful day and God bless you.

    • The first thing the gunners will do is create some kind of peripheral debate about what constitutes an assault rifle.IMO there is no need for semiautomatic guns in anybodies hand, except law enforcement or the military for any reason even “hunting”. If you can’t bring down your game with one or two shots you’re not much of a hunter.

      • I doubt 1st of all you are a gun owner, 2nd if you are sell you guns and join the Zippy/hillary movement if thats what you believe, because in times of social strife you will be a no-show

    • Why the government doesn’t, remember Fast and Furious and you expect the government to track guns purchased legally by Americans. What limits do you want?

    • Can you ever contribute to an intellegent conversation?! You have no thoughtful or logical arguement or content to your comments. Sadly, it’s typical of the neo-conservative.

    • *Sigh* I’m very tired of people who have passionate opinions over things they really know nothing about. An “assault rifle” is *not* a real, fully-automatic, military “battle rifle”; it’s a common semi-automatic civilian rifle with a look-alike stock (a.k.a. chassis). Replace the scarey-looking stock with a common wooden hunting stock, and — lo, and behold! — you have a common hunting rifle. The only difference is purely cosmetic. Howling about “assault rifles” is like accusing a woman of being a prostitute because she’s wearing a party dress.

      –Leslie < Fish

  2. I bought and read Obama’s book, Audacity of Hope. It was difficult to read considering his attitude toward us and everything American. Let me add a phrase he used to describe his attitude toward whites. He harbors a “COIL OF RAGE”. His words not mine.
    >> HELLLO!!? Is anyone out there awake?
    >> Everyone of voting age should read these two books by him:
    >> Don’t buy them, just get them from the library.
    >> From Dreams From My Father:
    >> “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”
    >> From Dreams From My Father:
    >> “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.”
    >> From Dreams From My Father:
    >> “There was something about her that made me wary, a little too sure of herself, maybe and white.”
    >> From Dreams From My Father:
    >> “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”
    >> From Dreams From My Father:
    >> “I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself: the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.”
    >> And FINALLY………..and most scary:
    >> From Audacity of Hope:
    >> “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
    >> OMG = Obama Must Go ………..end of story

    • REMEMBER Obamas’ OWN words, written in his OWN hand, in HIS OWN BOOK:
      “I will stand with the MUSLIMS should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”
      Can we as Americans count on him????? Can we as Jews count on him?????????

    • Hey John and OMG,
      I have a suggestion, why don’t you too just stick with those that love you at:
      • Glenn Beck
      • Fox News
      • Breitbart Production
      • WND
      • Patriot Update
      and leave the rest of us alone????

      I am just saying…. Have a nice day….

  3. When a worker gets hurt in a factory with some machinery, every one involved in the design, the production, the sales, and the delivery of that machinery gets sued for liability. Why isn’t there a law firm filing a class action law suit against the manufacturer, the seller, and the shipper of all the weapons and ammunition this terrorist bought. Why do these law firms chase physicians and ambulances for damages but never a gun dealer, manufacturer, and shipper of terror weapons?

    • stsintl; tort reform is a worthy topic all on it’s own. However a firearm is simply a tool, the loathing of some our fellow citizens notwithstanding. Hammers, machetes, rocks and sticks have all been used to kill other human beings. Are you seriously advocating suing the Postal Service for delivering a hammer (or a bathtub) that was used to kill someone? This would be a stretch even for our legal establishment.

      It would be one thing if the tool was badly designed for it’s purpose (a handgun that injured the operator), clearly though the legal issue is with the tool user that engages in illegal activities. Anything that perverts our judicial system to attack persons other than those actually guilty of a criminal act might be accepted by some as activism, but it itself is illegal activity. A call to such activity might actually constitute a conspiracy to persecute a certain group; you might want to consider those aspects of your last question.

  4. Why not put up signs in major cities for the edification and enlightenment of those
    who have no internet connection? They should not be unaware of the easy availability
    of assault rifles, rpg’s etc.

  5. This from Guns Magazine Giveaway, Contest void where prohibited by law. Winners must undergo a background check and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Contest open to U.S. residents only.

  6. The comments of this “expose” about how easy it is to buy firearms through the internet are misleading. If you go to the sites identified you wwill see that you have to comply with all laws that applies. This means that the guns have to be purchased by a licensed firearms dealer, who will then transfer owenership according to all laws.

  7. Why should anyone need, own an assault rifle? They feel so tiny, they must show their power and shoot the neighbors? What kind of civilization is this????
    Guns must be controlled and limited. Humans appear to use less brains, less humanity as time
    goes on. To live in freedom does not mean one can do ANYTHING they want, own, use ANYTHING THE WANT!!!! LET’S CREATE RESPONSIBLE GUN CONTROL!!!!!

    • Lets ban, golf clubs, knifes, baseball bats, tools, cars, water, or anything that has ever BEEN USED TO KILL ANYONE, but never address the fact it took a person to utilize it that way. Your premise is false, therfore your statement is just plain wrong

      • John… STOP that common sense thinking around here RIGHT NOW! There’s no room around here for logic and sound reasoning. The Memo is a place where useful idiots and leftist nutjobs are here to nod in agreement with one another about how nice it is to be a fool amongst fools! They don’t take kindly to those of us that wake them from their stupor, that’s for sure.

        Have a nice day!

    • If a conservitive does not like guns – they do not buy them. If a liberal does not like guns – they think NO ONE should have them!

      It is not the guns that are the cause – but deranged people who know that their audience have already been disarmed.

      When the guy has the only gun around – that makes him feel big, powerful and makes him want to prove to everyone how though he is. If everyone has a gun – the bully suddenly becomes a more respectful person because he knows that everyone else has the same capacity as he does.

      An armed society – is a polite society.

  8. Thanks for the links to those sites. Always nice to have more resources to buy whatever I want. Those are some good ones. Looks like fair prices, too. Good quick delivery and good customer service. What more could you ask for? I highly recommend them!

    Thanks again, Memo! You guys are great!

    Have a nice day!

  9. What we really need is to register unstable people on psychological drugs and that medical professionals deem a threat to themselves and society. Their rights to and of privacy should not come before the rights of the public and victims like in Aurora. Put them into the FBI NICS database so they can’t buy weapons and the number of violent crimes with weapons will go down.

  10. Lynn, Do your damn homework before you write something. You have to follow the law with online purchases just as though you walked into a sporting goods store. Many city’s dont allow delivery at all while all others only send them to a licensenced gun dealer in your area after you meet all criteria.
    This type of reporting reeks of liberalism. “as easy as buying a pair of shoes” really? Pathetic article and completely inaccurate.

  11. Would someone PLEASE tell these “journalists” the following:


    Guns are just one, of a great many, methods, of killing. Guns have NO free will, and do NOT decide when to fire. It is WE, “intelligent” human beings, who decide when, where, and how, to fire these weapons.

    A gun does not care if it is NEVER fired.

    It is the finger, on the trigger, the HUMAN finger, which decides when a gun is to be fired.

    Guns are NOT the problem, here. Guns are NOT alive, and cannot order anyone to shoot them. Just ask any sport-shooter.


    A HUMAN is responsible for the tragedy, in Aurora Colorado. A gun was just the product of choice, for the HUMAN.

  12. If you really want to stop horrific crimes like this, after this person is found guilty and given the death penalty, insanity or not, publicly flog him to death so that no one would ever think to do anything like this again. Some will say this is cruel but the victims and potential victims of senseless violence like this would think otherwise.

  13. The Armory…yeah…that’s what America needs…more websites where sickos can purchase their weapons, tear gas and grenades to kill ANONYMOUSLY!!!
    This is SO NOT what our founding fathers meant with the 2nd amendment

    • Another brain fart, my bet is you are 1. marist, liberal demon-crat, Obama swooner 2. you have never read the Constitution nor the 2nd Admendment, 3. Tear gas, grenades, mortar shells, tanks, and missiles are already against a “law” . So placing all guns in a banned law would stop 1st violance, murders, wars, and all other social problems, right, well there you go…… dont you feel better already.

      • As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

        “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

        It calls for a “well-regulated militia.” Well, right there YOU have a problem because neocons like you don’t believe in regulating anything!!!
        It also states that this militia is only a necessitiy when the security of a free state is being threatened. Exactly what armed federal law enforcement agency or military are in your backyard?! Besides the Civil War, when was there a need for a militia to ensure the individual states are free from threat?!

        Again…NO ONE is trying to take away your shotgun used for hunting or your gun used to protect your property or family.

        Step away from your favorite shows: Fox News Channel, Huckabee, Bill O’Reiley and Sean Hannity. Pick up a book isn’t fantasy conspiracy theories like the DaVinci Code- it only makes you MORE paranoid. Perhaps you should educate yourself in the practice of logical, critical thinking. The dictionary’s definition of ultra conservative is: a person who is highly reactionary. Try looking up the word “pro-active,” jerk!!

  14. Corporate greed is the closest thing they have to an emotion.No shampoo on the plane ,no sudafed purchased online,but assault rifles no problem.Greed is perversion of prosperity. Prosperity implies having enough or more than enough.Greed implies never enough. There is good deal of satisfaction to found in prosperity.There isn’t any satisfaction in greed.There is no empathy or compassion in greed. Greed brings about unchecked egotism. materielism and often loneliness.Jesus said that it more blessed to give than to recieve.That implies to me that greed ‘s preoccupation with recieving winds up working against itself and against God’sWord.

  15. Lynn Zhong;

    Your title is ambiguous. In my hands, a tire iron is a ‘deadly weapon.’

    Dik Thurston
    Colorado Springs

    • Good point. In the police academy, the recruits are told the same. We saw a “sharps video” attack with sharp-edged weapons that showed that a person within 20′ could maim, disarm or kill you, the same goes for anything that could hurt you, a shovel, a baseball bat, a hammer.

  16. If you have sinus congestion you can’t buy sudafed without showing ID, same with fertilizer, and can’t take drinks in a bottle on an airplane but you can buy body armor and 6000 bullets at a time without raising any red flags. There’s something wrong with this picture.

    • Ignorance is bliss………….. to purchase a firearm, you have to show ID, you have to go thru a Background check, the laws are for the person who is follows it……… when somebody buys drug illegally…do you ban the drug, same analogy. So your lack of logic eludes both you and me

  17. hitler and Stalin eliminated guns fronm the populace and look where that got them. Outlaw guns and afterward if you want one, any kind, anywhere you will always get one. Why take guns away from those who need and deserve them.

  18. Comply with all state and Federal laws??… The problem is the laws do not prevent the sales of these military like multi round weapons, including sales to anyone who has not not exposd his mental instability yet. These mass murders will continue to happen and the NRA will just laugh it off and say the guns were not the problem. IT LIKE saying the nuclear bomb wasnt the problem when some terrorist gets a hold of one and kills a million people one day> “Nukes dont kill people, people kill people” they will say

  19. Alarming reports about the amount of ammo and protective gear Aurora gunman James Holmes bought online/// why wouldnt it send up a red flag if ones to buy body gear ? what thy going to say bambi and her mother deer might have a gun also and try to shot me back when i shot at them . theres only one reason why one would want and need body protecting gear and that is that who ever thy was shoting at was shoting back at them . but that cowardly POS when it came time to face off against the police and there guns thy had like him he gave up the punk . he already murdered inocent unarmed ppl. and he lost his cokkies the SOB . if he had any in the first place . how much tuff guy dose it take to murder unarmed men women and children .

  20. what happens next ? and how would he feel if ppl. start tracking down his family and doing the same thing he did in murdering those inocent unarmed ppl. . now those are the ppl that should have more reason for have been gone insane for the murdering of there love ones

  21. The point that your missing is this: James Holmes sneaked those guns into a place of his advantage, regardless of the law. Whether he was law abiding up to that point make no difference. Criminals will carry guns no matter what the law says. The only point of defense against an armed person is for the victim to be armed. We can’t expect the police to be everywhere, all of the time. James Holmes was intent on killing those innocent, unarmed people in that theatre, no matter what. If law abiding citizens are allowed to be armed, criminals would think twice about going up against them.

    • My husband’s favorite saying re: gun control is:
      “When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”
      Not taking anything away from the police. Aurora police performed admirably and have my total respect and support.

  22. People act like it’s a crime to buy ammo on line or guns for that matter ! You still have to abid by the laws, use a FFL Dealer. What’s the difference if I buy a large amount of ammo at my local Walmart or from the internet ? There will always be bad people in the world unfortunately ! That doesn’t mean the 2nd amendment rights to bare arms should be taken away from law abiding citizens ! Need I say more? Because I can ! That’s a 1st amendment right ! And there are those that would like to take that right away as well !

  23. I don’t understand where this article is getting it’s information. In CO, there are gun regulations, a background check, a waiting period.
    For an assault weapons (full automatic) there is an ATF series of forms and background checks that can take over 6 months to get an answer on, and you have to have a reason to buy.

  24. John Meyer: Here are your infantile and insulting comments made to me:
    “Another brain fart, my bet is you are 1. marist, liberal demon-crat, Obama swooner 2. you have never read the Constitution nor the 2nd Admendment, 3. Tear gas, grenades, mortar shells, tanks, and missiles are already against a “law” . So placing all guns in a banned law would stop 1st violance, murders, wars, and all other social problems, right, well there you go…… dont you feel better already.”

    As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:
    The 2nd Amendment states:
    “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

    So what does the 2nd Amendment mean? Lets take this apart:
    “A well regulated militia…” WELL-regulated- something you neocons don’t believe in- regulation of any kind. Yet Thomas Jefferson- a key framer- demanded that any militia be well-regulated- not some rogue bunch of wingnut lunatics.
    “..militia being necessary to the security of a free state…” First, what is the definition of “militia?” mi·li·tia/məˈliSHə Noun:
    1.A military force of civilians to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
    2.A military force that engages in rebel activities.
    Is a MILITIA really NECESSARY? According to this, a militia is ONLY necessary when there is a threat to the security of a free state. So exactly which free state’s security is currently being threatened and how is it being threatened? Please explain this and try to be specific.
    “…the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” That means that citizens’ rights to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed….but only IFF a state’s security is being threatened.
    So the question stands: Which free state’s security is being threatened and needs citizens to take up arms and defend it?!! There are specific conditions inwhich Jefferson says that is all to bear arms in defense of a free state when that state’s security is being threatened. Seems extremely specific to me.
    I would call all of our united states to be quite complimentary and cooperative toward one another. No state’s security is being threatened, therefore, no militia needs to be organized and well regulated. Oregon isn’t threatening to invade Idaho….Florida isn’t threatening Alabama’s security to be a free state. How do you explain bearing arms?

    But before you go all sideways on me…..
    I completely understand and respect a hunter or sportsman to own and operate a weapon for the procurement of food or target practice. This is a rich part of our county’s history. Our forefathers tamed this wild land for survival. I do not want to take any hunter or sportsman’s rifles.
    I also must allow that there are many citizens who fear what they do not know – the rogue burglar that strikes in the night when you are unaware. You wouldn’t be able to sleep without your steel at your side to protect your family and property. (But please learn to prepare for when you see a shadow so that you will know that and not mistake your family for that shadow!!!

    I do not want to take your gun, your rifle, or side iron.

    What the 2nd Amendment does not deal with is the type of high-tech weaponry that should only be in the hands of our highly trained soldiers and law enforcement officers. These are the firearms and weaponry that should not be falling into civillian hands..can they??!!
    I think you see that I am WELL versed in the 2nd Amendment and its regulations and provisions to move a well regulated militia to help secure a free state that is being threatened.

    Now allow me to really take you to school. I’ve studied you briefly. You have an affinity for fantasy and “what if’s.” You like the idea of something or someone starting a revolution…like in Avatar or the DaVinnci Code. Wouldn’t you love to be the shwasghbuckling militia man, leading your well regulated citizens into the zombie battle.

    And all of your thoughts come from Fox News, Huckabee,Bill O’Reiley and Rush Limbaugh. You have a very one-sided and one dimentional look at the world. You’re missing so many other things that would makd you say, “Wow…I didn’t know that…boy was I wrong!”

    And Yes, I am a democrat since 1972…watched helplessly Nixon fall from grace as an unrependent criminal and then ultimately a victim for Watergate. What an idiot.

    I certainly do not call myself a communist, a marxist (don’t know what it is), and I know I’m not a communist.
    But what YOU are, my fine fellow is: a bug sqwased

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