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Paris (AFP) – U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry met his Russian counterpart Sunday hoping to ease global tensions over the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea and buildup of troops near Ukraine.

The latest bid to resolve the worst East-West standoff in the post-Cold War era comes after Russian leader Vladimir Putin called U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday to discuss a diplomatic resolution.

The two men met in the lavish residence of the Russian ambassador to France seeking to hammer out a plan to end the crisis sparked when Moscow sent troops into Ukraine’s Black Sea peninsula after the pro-Kremlin regime in Kiev fell in February.

Despite a massive troop build-up on Ukraine’s borders, Lavrov has insisted Moscow had “absolutely no intention and no interests in crossing the Ukrainian border.”

But he called on Western powers Sunday to back a proposal for Ukraine’s Russian-speaking regions to have greater powers in a “federal” and neutral Ukraine.

“If our Western partners are ready, then Russia, the United States and the European Union could form a support group on Ukraine,” Lavrov told Russian state television.

This would lead to talks between “all Ukrainian political forces without exception, naturally excluding armed radicals,” and would end in a new constitution allowing for a “federal structure” with greater regional autonomy, he said.

Moscow’s plan would allow parts of Ukraine to declare Russian as a second official language and secure more independence from Kiev — a move analysts view as a bid to weaken the authority of what is likely to be a permanent new pro-Western leadership.

However the Ukrainian foreign ministry called on Moscow to stop preaching to its western neighbor.

“We would like to urge Russia, before it presses its ultimatums on a sovereign and independent nation, to take note of the catastrophic state and complete powerlessness of its own ethnic minorities, including Ukrainians,” it said in a statement.

A plan outlining how the situation could be resolved has gone through a number of modifications, with a Russian diplomatic source telling AFP that the two men were first to meet alone and then broaden their talks to include their advisers.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov insisted Saturday to the state-run RIA Novosti agency that “it is the United States that is responding to our proposals on Ukraine.”

“We have differing views of the situation. Our discussions involve an exchange of ideas, but one cannot say that we have some sort of single approach.”

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9 responses to “Kerry, Lavrov Seek Deal On Ukraine Crisis”

  1. charleo1 says:

    Anytime there’s a crisis, a revolution, an annexation, or just plain old civil strife, borne of Plutocratic demands for austerity. We here in the U.S. can
    count on our Conservative minions to rally, and put the blame squarely
    where it belongs. On America, and our wobbly kneed President, of course! Yes, the world senses Obama is weak, they say. And now the Al Malakie government in Bagdad is crumbling. The Taliban are raging in downtown Kabul, and Vladimire Putin is emboldened, and running “Hitler style,” throughout the countryside of Crimea, and perhaps on to Kiev. If only America had a, “strong,” leader they say. If there was only some way, President Obama could disguise, or heck, just deny the realities, in the way the Right Wingers are able to do with their faithful Fox viewers here. If you don’t like the facts as they are, just change them until you do. And stand and swear to the world they are true, until the world gets tire of arguing with a numbskull, (It doesn’t take that long, really!) Then, declare yourself the winner, and move on, point settled. Things like our military has been worn to a nub, after 12 years of mostly fruitless war. Or, other things that are very hard to keep from people like Vladimir, who evidently doesn’t watch Fox very regularly. Like Americans care about Crimea with about the same fervor as they care about the new Taliban offensive, or that the military now runs Egypt. The largest, and most important Arab Country in the Middle East. Which is to say, they wish they would settle down, and be cooperative. If not, they are sure as hell tired of watching their kids die for some grand geo-political scheme that didn’t pan out. Or, seeing their taxes poured down some rat hole, overseas. While Right Wing politicians fight with Left wing politicians, over help for disaster victims, and other Americans that need those dollars, right here at home. Mitt Romney is out in Vegas, with the rest of the best of America’s Right Wing, at the behest of multi billionaire Sheldon Adelson. Sharing their disappointment, no doubt, of Mitt not becoming President, and the war with Iran, that’s tragically (in their opinion,) not well underway by now. But, Sheldon is picking out his boy toy from the likely suspects. Rumors of a special party at Sheldon’s private hanger for Jeb Bush, has the T-Party furious. Or in other words, their usual default position. But I’m just sure for others, it brings back memories of all the majesty, that was the Bush years.

    • Anne says:

      I fail to see where this “crisis” comes from. The Crimean people decided they want to secede from a self-appointed fascist government ruling the Ukraine and join Russia, so what’s the problem? Why should the US’s opinion overrule the will of the Crimean people? How about respecting their vote? As for comparing Putin to HItler, wow, considering that the current government of the Ukraine happens to be a fascist neonazi party (by its own admission) that came to power by coup. I suggest whoever supports that government learns history. If Russia puts its military on alert when there are problems next door or not is hardly anybody’s business. If there were a coup in Mexico or Canada, wouldn’t the US do the same thing? Why does the US even stick its nose into the situation in the Ukraine let alone Crimea? Actually, the UN has just gigged the US for a couple of dozen severe human rights violations, so instead of worrying about the Russians who are apparently not doing anything anyway, it would behove the American people to watch their own Ps and Qs. The world is really getting tired of the US trying to rule the world. As for constantly bringing up Hitler, who’s been dead for 70 years by now, I suggest the American people learn their own history and the creeps they keep voting into office. Heck, not even Hitler and
      Napoleon roled into one can come even near some US presidents when it comes to human rights violations. Instead of constantly bringing up Hitler, how about taking a closer look at Andrew Jackson? Or how about examining that war monger Theo Roosevelt a little better? Putin is a jerk like all other poiticians, but at least he doesn’t murder grandmas with drones. Think about it.

      • charleo1 says:

        There is an interesting article in this month’s Time, you
        would enjoy reading, I think. It talks in some depth about
        some of the issues you included in your comment. The
        author points out that Western leaders view the map in a non-geographic-post cold war, way. That attempts to replace the old world dynamic of tribe, or blood, to territories, with a world that relies on international law,
        and trade. And why geography still matters. And, that
        being the reason Putin held most all of the cards here.
        I tend to feel the same way about our feeling the need
        to get heavily involved in every dust up. Whether or not
        we have a direct interest in the outcome, or not. It is
        interesting in this frustrating way you describe. That even sanctions are problematic in the severity with which we want them imposed on Russia. Because of European trade, and energy ties with the Russians. So, my feelings are, we are a world power, and as such we have a responsibility to ourselves, and to the world at large, to uphold what we know as to be moral, and right. To encourage peace, and stability, and to posterity even. But we must learn if we have these battles, to meet our these chosen obligations. Then, we must choose them much more wisely, and fight them in a much smarter way, than we have been of late.

        • Anne says:

          The US is not as much a world power as it is a desperate world bully. The fact remains that the Crimeans voted to secede from the Ukraine and to rejoin the Russian Federation — Putin or no Putin. There is no international law prohibiting self-determination. If the US had even a tiny clue what a democracy is it would respect the outcome of that election and mind its own business. After all, the border between Denmark and Germany was established by election and the Saarland elected at one time to leave France and rejoin Germany just like Czechoslovakia voted to separate into two independent nations. So why shouldn’t Crimea be able to do likewise? For Mr. Obama to stand there and state that national borders can’t be established in this manner must have been a joke. How does he think national borders should be established? The way the US established the one between the US and Mexico, you know, by war only? How about Mr. Obama standing there in Europe lamely claiming that this realignment of the Crimea, which was peacefully done in the voting booth, was by far WORSE than the American invasion of Iraq for no apparent reason which murdered more than a million people, destroyed an entire country, and left 25% of the Iraqi people homelessly stranded in refugee camps? When exactly has the US ever encouraged peace? Was that when the US murdered 95% of the indigenous population as 13 former little colonies expanded across the entire continent or was that when the US attacked or threatened to attack just about every country on earth? Right now, Americans want a war so bad, they can taste it. It doesn’t even matter if they can start one in Venezuela, in Syria, in the Ukraine or wherever, all the US wants is war, war, war. As for the US determining what’s moral and what isn’t, since when are Americans viewed as moral by anybody? People who still, after 250 years, worry about the punctuation in an old constitution that was poorly written by a pile of greedy and genocidal slave owners can hardly claim to be moral. People who consider it their inalienable right to threaten each other with firearms are neither peaceful nor moral. That’s just the way it is. Stop making excuses for bullies. And who cares what a fascist propaganda rag from the US claims “Western leaders” think? European countries don’t have leaders (= Fuehrer), they have elected representatives. Obviously the US is intimidating and threatening Europe because the folks there didn’t even care about what was going on in the Ukraine until the US started to run over at the mouth. Think about it.

          , April 01, 2014 10:32 AM
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          charleo1 There is an interesting article in this month’s Time, you
          would enjoy reading, I think. It talks in some depth about
          some of the issues you included in your comment. The
          author points out that Western leaders view the map in a non-geographic-post cold war, way. That attempts to replace the old world dynamic of tribe, or blood, to territories, with a world that relies on international law, and trade. And why geography still matters. And, that
          being the reason Putin held most all of the cards here.
          I tend to feel the same way about our feeling the need
          to get heavily involved in every dust up. Whether or not
          we have a direct interest in the outcome, or not. It is
          interesting in this frustrating way you describe. That ev en sanct ions are problematic in the severity with which we want them imposed on Russia. Because of European trade, and energy ties with the Russians. So, my feelings are, we are a world power, and as such we have a responsibility to ourselves, and to the world at large, to uphold what we know as to be moral, and right. To encourage peace, and stability, and to posterity even.
          But we must learn if we have these battles, to meet our
          these chosen obligations. Then, we must choose them much more wisely, and fight them in a much smarter way, than we have been of late.
          11:32 a.m., Tuesday April 1

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  2. docb says:

    A ‘support group’..that does not sound like a russian suggestion! The Russian supporters here are shameless and cowardly…100,000 troops at their eastern borders faking to be non-russian.

    Putin’s antics are backfiring…

    http://www.businessinsider.com/russias-economic-outlook-is-bleak-2014-3

    http://www.businessinsider.com/lack-of-chinese-support-for-crimea-is-a-big-problem-for-putin-2014-3

  3. docb says:

    A ‘support group’..that does not sound like a russian suggestion! The Russian supporters here are shameless and cowardly…100,000 troops at their eastern borders faking to be non-russian.

    Putin’s antics are backfiring…

    http://www.businessinsider.com/russias-economic-outlook-is-bleak-2014-3

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    • Anne says:

      Putin’s antics? Don’t you mean the antics of the US? After all, Putin really didn’t do anything. The Crimean people voted to secede, and Putin is not Crimean and didn’t even vote. Why the US sticks its nose into something over in Europe is anybody’s guess. Americans might want to learn to mind their own business. Nobody asked America to rule the whole world and the Crimeans don’t have to ask the US for permission to hold an election. If Americans had a clue what a democracy is, they’d respect the votes of the Crimeans and shut up.

    • Anne says:

      Actually, the Ukraine is on Russia’s Western border and not at its Eastern border. And no, those Russian troops don’t pretend anything. As long as they’re in Russia, they don’t need your permission to be on alert. You’re the one who’s shameless because you deny the Crimeans the right to make their own decisions.
      The US is just being greedy and wants to force Europe to buy that filthy tar oil instead of the oil from Russia but that’s not going to happen. All I see is a situation in the Ukraine that’s none of my business and a pile of greedy Americans engaging in their usual antics. That filthy tar oil is already polluting Lake Michigan, so instead of worrying about the Russians, you might worry about your own greed and what that’s doing to your water in America.

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